March 19, 2010
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Posted by: Ed Ames at March 19, 2010 05:11 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: eman at March 19, 2010 05:13 AM (3fzoU)
Posted by: steevy at March 19, 2010 05:14 AM (OLJCy)
By Julianna Goldman and Roger Runningen
March 19 (Bloomberg) -- Democrats need about six more votes from House members to pass a U.S. health-care overhaul, Obama administration officials said today.
White House and Democratic leaders aim to collect those votes from a pool of about 14 to 15 undecided lawmakers to get to the 216 votes needed to pass the measure, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
@HA
Posted by: willow at March 19, 2010 05:16 AM (7FgWm)
No matter what the democrats promise in their campaign ads- it's bullshit.
Democrats are all a reliable vote for the left.
That is their only use.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 19, 2010 05:17 AM (0fzsA)
Saw that, Mike H.
He's getting a pounding in the comments. Does he think that heterosexual Dutch troops without political support, air support, or adequate equipment would have done better?
Posted by: Zimriel at March 19, 2010 05:18 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: Zimriel at March 19, 2010 05:19 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 05:22 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: eman at March 19, 2010 05:23 AM (3fzoU)
Posted by: steevy at March 19, 2010 05:23 AM (OLJCy)
But what about those “you can’t repeal this” provisions and “supermajority requirements” snuck into the nooks and crannies of ObamaCare? They really are meaningless. Robert Alt, senior legal fellow and deputy director of the Center for Legal & Judicial Studies of the Heritage Foundation, confirms the adage that “One Congress cannot bind a future Congress.” He explains:
The only question is whether the new statute itself meets the requirements of bicameralism and presentment (ahh, something that until recently we have rather taken for granted). If it does, then it must be given effect unless it is unconstitutional — and there is nothing unconstitutional about repealing a prior bill. While the courts will give the prior statute’s language its maximum effect, the new statute would be just as much the “law of the land,” and thus a statement in the new statute that “notwithstanding the supermajority or ‘no repeal’ requirement in the health care bill, HR XXXX is hereby repealed” would have to be given effect by the court
@Lucianne
true?
Posted by: willow at March 19, 2010 05:25 AM (7FgWm)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 05:26 AM (mR7mk)
So the plan now is to get health care passed. Then move swiftly ahead to amnesty for millions of illegals so they can vote to keep the democrats in power forever.
This is where that Slaughter crap will come in handy for the Deemocrats.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 19, 2010 05:28 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 05:29 AM (F5Gxy)
Posted by: Teddy Kennedy's Alcohol-soaked corpse, burning in pit 6 for eternity at March 19, 2010 05:31 AM (27KAF)
Saw that, Mike H.
He's getting a pounding in the comments. Does he think that heterosexual Dutch troops without political support, air support, or adequate equipment would have done better?
Posted by: Zimriel at March 19, 2010 09:18 AM (9Sbz+)
I read down the article and he stated that he was repeating what the Dutch generals said to him. But it is a telling statement on troop readiness in Europe if they have to raise false spectres.
Posted by: Mike H at March 19, 2010 05:31 AM (zqzYV)
Do you think anyone ever told him that's not in Canada? Or just smiled and nodded so they didn't get an ashtray thrown at their head?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 05:32 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: steevy at March 19, 2010 05:35 AM (OLJCy)
I've got a coworker who insists that neither the House or Senate versions of the bill fund abortion, and that the competition will drive insurance prices down. Any thoughts on how to counter her short of a smack to the head?
Posted by: Joanna at March 19, 2010 05:35 AM (7+WuG)
Guess they are tired of buying gold.
Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 05:35 AM (p302b)
THEN (President Obama, September 5, 2009):
"We have to revive this economy and rebuild it stronger than before. And making sure that folks have the opportunity and incentive to save – for a home or college, for retirement or a rainy day — is essential to that effort. " NOW
March 18 (Bloomberg) — Democratic congressional leaders would raise to 3.8 percent the Obama administration’s proposed new Medicare tax on investment income to generate an estimated $210 billion to help fund a health-care overhaul plan.
Taxation! otherwise know as - that sweet stuff that makes democrats giggle with delight.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 19, 2010 05:35 AM (0fzsA)
I've got a coworker who insists that neither the House or Senate versions of the bill fund abortion, and that the competition will drive insurance prices down. Any thoughts on how to counter her short of a smack to the head?
Posted by: Joanna at March 19, 2010 09:35 AM (7+WuG)"
"we are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming America"....guess who said that?
Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 05:37 AM (p302b)
That is a true statement. Unfortunately, this bill will squash competition--there will only be three gov't-approved plans companies can offer (and the coverage is the same in all, only the deductible/co-pays vary). Everyone has to have the coverage the gov't deems correct or pay the fine.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 05:39 AM (mR7mk)
I've got a coworker who insists that neither the House or Senate versions of the bill fund abortion, and that the competition will drive insurance prices down. Any thoughts on how to counter her short of a smack to the head?
Posted by: Joanna at March 19, 2010 09:35 AM (7+WuG)
Why stop short of a smack in the head. I say jam her in the copier machine - collate & staple.
Posted by: Mike H at March 19, 2010 05:40 AM (zqzYV)
Any thoughts on how to counter her short of a smack to the head?
I'm not sure I understand the question.
Oh, right, need to keep your job and such.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 19, 2010 05:41 AM (Be4xl)
Besides, even if you did change her mind, the Dems wouldn't listen to her. You would only affect her next vote. The cold hard slap of reality may catch up with her far quicker.
I suggest ridiculing her and then taking care of yourself. She's a waste of oxygen.
Posted by: grognard at March 19, 2010 05:41 AM (v0kvW)
Why stop short of a smack in the head. I say jam her in the copier machine - collate & staple.
I would, but she's otherwise a very nice person and I don't want to burn bridges. Maybe I'll just take a long, lonnnnnng walk and make some phone calls.
Posted by: Joanna at March 19, 2010 05:41 AM (7+WuG)
Posted by: Justin Camp at March 19, 2010 05:44 AM (nF4Jh)
"Please explain why Walgreens won't accept new Medicaid patients under your model of increased competition."
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 19, 2010 05:44 AM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Joanna
at March 19, 2010 09:35 AM (7+WuG)
Wait till ObamaCare is up and running, THEN smack her in the head. She'll have to visit one of the new ACORN-recruit "doctors" for treatment.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 05:44 AM (F5Gxy)
Friday, March 19, 2010
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 23% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-four percent (44%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21. That matches the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this PresidentPosted by: Tami at March 19, 2010 05:45 AM (VuLos)
Why stop short of a smack in the head. I say jam her in the copier machine - collate & staple.
I would, but she's otherwise a very nice person and I don't want to burn bridges. Maybe I'll just take a long, lonnnnnng walk and make some phone calls.
Posted by: Joanna at March 19, 2010 09:41 AM (7+WuG)
Or bring up George Clooney
Posted by: Mike H at March 19, 2010 05:45 AM (zqzYV)
USPS package shipping vs FedEx/UPS.
Guess which is cheaper, and which does a better job.
By the law of the market place, USPS would go out of business but... oh that's right, they're supported by taxpayers.
The analogy isn't exact but I doubt she'd see the flaw in it.
Posted by: Gaff at March 19, 2010 05:52 AM (jDWYv)
Doc Zero touches on the abortion issue.
but the odds that ObamaCare will never cover abortions are exactly zero. ItÂ’s simply a question of when, not if.
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 19, 2010 05:52 AM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Mama AJ at March 19, 2010 05:54 AM (Be4xl)
I think we need a flaming something for this story from Newsbusters:
Pot Smoker Cheech Marin Beats Anderson Cooper on JeopardyPosted by: Mama AJ at March 19, 2010 05:56 AM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Gaff at March 19, 2010 05:58 AM (jDWYv)
Guess they are tired of buying gold.
Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 09:35 AM (p302b)
Eeeesh...no they are just investing in their new homes. Why hang around here w/the shit storm thats coming, even if you have a modest amunt of money. Why not sail around for the next 10/20+ years if you can afford it. Its harder for the tax man to catch a moving target. Problem is that they will be taking their money w/them and spending everywhere but here; not investing, not hiring employees.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 19, 2010 05:59 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: timothyJ at March 19, 2010 06:02 AM (IKKIf)
Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 06:05 AM (p302b)
I've got a coworker who insists that neither the House or Senate versions of the bill fund abortion, and that the competition will drive insurance prices down. Any thoughts on how to counter her short of a smack to the head?
Posted by: Joanna at March 19, 2010 09:35 AM (7+WuG)"
1.Where is the competition coming from????? The government?!? Ask them to name one area where gevernment interference or increased control resulted in increased 'competition'.
2. If insurance companies are forced to "end discrimination" which is how they regard pre-existing conditions" why does anyone thinkg that prices will go down?
3. The House version contained the Stupak amendment, that forbade ANY funds from supporting abortions. The Senate version approaches this, but deliberately excludes "other funds that may be authorized or appropriated". Once a new funding stream is allowed, then the restriction is cicumvented. Ask your co-worker why the Stupak amendment was rejected. If they are up for the bonus round, ask then why within 2,000 pages that they sinply didn't tie all programs and funds to the Hyde amendment, which pre-existed either the Stupak amendment or this monstrosity. When they are unable to answer, and they will be unable, you will have proven your point.
Final note on that. If Congress was about to block all abortion funding, does this co-worker really think that NARAL, NOW, Planned Parenthood and President Obama, who never met an abortion he didn't like, really be so content with the language?
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 19, 2010 06:07 AM (R2fpr)
The Anti-Creativity Checklist This is required viewing.
The funny thing is, I can check several of these items when I think of health care, cap and trade, or any of the modern liberal social failures.
Posted by: sTevo at March 19, 2010 06:07 AM (x1yqz)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 06:17 AM (mR7mk)
Admiral Yamamoto?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 19, 2010 06:23 AM (w5ptJ)
Posted by: dagny at March 19, 2010 06:24 AM (clgMu)
I've got a coworker who insists that neither the House or Senate
versions of the bill fund abortion, and that the competition will drive
insurance prices down. Any thoughts on how to counter her short of a
smack to the head?
I find that "You're a fucking idiot and to try to explain things to a fucking idiot like you would waste my time" is the most productive response.
Posted by: nickless at March 19, 2010 06:24 AM (MMC8r)
It's like they don't understand that those babies grow up to be taxpayers. Or maybe they don't care.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 06:26 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 19, 2010 09:38 AM (R2fpr)
No, he's from High why.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 19, 2010 06:37 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 06:44 AM (mR7mk)
Retarded.
"Creativity" and "innovative thinking" are most often just cover for perennial losers dissatisfied with their natural [and rightful] place in the pecking order. They have nothing to lose by disrupting the order and everything to gain if, by some freak accident, they find themselves on top when things shake out.
It's like the little shitbags who, on getting their asses whipped again and again, don't even take a breath before demanding a double-or-nothing rematch.
Posted by: MikeO at March 19, 2010 06:54 AM (lBmZl)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 07:14 AM (mR7mk)
Remember Ezekiel Emmanuels Complete Lives System:
" the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated."
So... if you're younger than 15 and older the 40, the government is going to LET YOU DIE.
Also... I don't believe there will be death panels. The individuals involved would be targets. I believe it will be run by computers- lets the government deny responsibility.
Yep. Logans Run.
Posted by: shibumi at March 19, 2010 07:16 AM (OKZrE)
Posted by: CJ at March 19, 2010 07:30 AM (9KqcB)
Obama nixed the delivery of bunker-busters to Israel.
My fortune cookie says "May you live in interesting times."
Posted by: Cincinnatus at March 19, 2010 07:43 AM (euuyg)
Posted by: T at March 19, 2010 08:14 AM (HwdJ8)
The Anti-Creativity Checklist This is required viewing.
I suppose some people can have adverse reactions to change, and the process that brings it about. I find the check list to be quite intriguing because I am guilty on all counts.
Posted by: sTevo at March 19, 2010 08:44 AM (0mcNl)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 19, 2010 09:31 AM (mR7mk)
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