April 28, 2010

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— Gabriel Malor

Rrmph.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 05:14 AM | Comments (336)
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1 Help! I'm eating bird seed.

Posted by: fluffy at April 28, 2010 05:16 AM (4Kl5M)

2
G-D, is it friday yet?

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 05:17 AM (fx8sm)

3 Parody: Illegal Alien Sex Slave Traffickers Decry "Mean-Spirited" Arizona Immigration Reform Law tinyurl.com/3yj9dmt

Posted by: Justin Camp at April 28, 2010 05:18 AM (nF4Jh)

4

Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who carries his concealed handgun with him while jogging, kills a coyote with one shot while jogging yesterday.  Nice.  The comments are kind of funny.

http://url2it.com/dbbr

Posted by: mr crowley at April 28, 2010 05:19 AM (DlXP/)

5 I love Al Sharpton.

Posted by: ParisParamus at April 28, 2010 05:20 AM (Qh7hs)

6

Good morning, morons. Any illegals can get reamed.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2010 05:21 AM (OlN4e)

7 Boycott Arizona® Iced Tea!!  It's made in Brooklyn!!

http://tinyurl.com/26xvcfu

Bunch of fucking wizards, I tell ya.....

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 28, 2010 05:22 AM (Qc8IW)

8

Well it seems that the two big stories in the media today are still the Goldman Sachs farce on capital hill and the Nazi outbreak in AZ.  The media still refuses to acknowledge that the law does NOT give Gestapo authority to AZ police to stop and demand papers from brown skinned individuals because they “look illegal”. I actually expect that issue to have a short attention span with the media because it really doesnÂ’t help the communists in reelection this fall.

 

From an “importance to the country” standpoint the Goldman Sacks hearings, like all other congressional hearings, mean absolutely NOTHING.   Too bad that most of the unwashed proles out there do not understand that. The sole purpose of a congressional hearing, regardless of Party, is to give the politicians publicity and to attempt to embarrass the other side.  In this case the hearing is part of a two-pronged attack on Republicans in what the communists in this administrating think is the Republican Party weakness, big business. The second front in the attack is the new Dodd bill to re-regulate Wall Street AND all other businesses that the government deems to be “too big to fail”.

 

On that second front the Dems in the Senate have been warned by the WH to refuse to compromise on any score in the bill.  This is in an effort to force the Republicans to filibuster the bill so the commies can brand them as obstructionists and “friends of evil Wall Street”.   Never mind that there is NOTHING in the bill to cure what actually caused this mess.  But then again, that is the same as all other congressional legislation for after the fact government caused fiascos.

 

We on the conservative side should keep a few things in mind as the events play out. This is the typical Democrat playbook leading into an election.  They fully expect the media to carry their water for them and assist in painting the Republicans as evil big business clones and enemies of the common man.  And they will get what they fully expect.

 

We should keep our eyes open for weak-kneed Republicans who are afraid of the media and who will bend to accommodate the Dems playbook.  We should also keep our eyes on the Republicans who think they are Democrats (.e.g Lindsay Graham-DIABLO-SC). 

 

This is the year of the conservative and the last chance to stop this anti-American communist administration from destroying the country.  We must keep up the skeer on the politicians and hold their feet to the fire.     

 

 

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 05:22 AM (QrA9E)

9 #5 --  Whaaaa?

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at April 28, 2010 05:22 AM (PZLW0)

10 CRESSKILL — Police arrested 45 students Tuesday following the student protests statewide against Gov. Chris Christie's budget cuts, a report on MyFoxNY.com said.

Also, Newark police arrested three people during a protest in the city, according to the report. Two were charged with assault and robbery, and one was arrested for theft, the report said.

Thousands of high school students staged mass walkouts from their classrooms Tuesday to protest the proposed cuts

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Italics are mine. I guess the Newark school curriculum includes gang-banging. 

Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at April 28, 2010 05:23 AM (zqzYV)

11

Jebus!  The evil never sleeps!  Jason Chaffetz is on with Beck right now talking about Puerto Rican statehood, coming up for a vote tomorrow.  This would give PR two senators and six congressmen in DC.  The New Progressive Party of PR is behind this.   Chaffetz said there are 58 Republican co-sponsors to the bill that have largely been mislead to support it.   Ready for another star on the flag? 

Call your Congressman and tell him NO ON PUERTO RICO!

Posted by: RushBabe at April 28, 2010 05:23 AM (LKkE8)

12 "NASA will hold a news media teleconference at 1:30 p.m. EDT, Wednesday, April 28, to discuss the status of agency-sponsored astrobiology research, including the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life and the study of how life began on Earth. Topics also will include the quest for evidence of life on Mars, the habitability of other celestial bodies, and future technology research.

This week, NASA and scientists from around the world are gathering at a biennial meeting near Houston to celebrate 50 years of astrobiology research. Astrobiology is the study of the origin, evolution, distribution and future of life in the universe. Scientists gathered to share new data and insights, initiate and advance collaborations, plan new projects, and educate the next generation of astrobiologists. "
"To obtain call-in information, journalists should e-mail their name, media affiliation and telephone number to:

dwayne.c.brown@nasa.gov
Audio of the teleconference will be streamed live on NASA's website at:

LINK


For more information about NASA astrobiology activities, visit:

LINK   "


Ooo would be too cool if Ace live blogged this.


Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:24 AM (p302b)

13 Boycott Arizona® Iced Tea!! It's made in Brooklyn!! New York City?!?!?

Posted by: Pace picante sauce cowboy at April 28, 2010 05:24 AM (4Kl5M)

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:24 AM (p302b)

15 Beck just came on.  He is prefacing his remarks about having congressman jason chavitz?  from Utah.  He says what we are about to hear sounds like a conspiracy theory.

They are talking about HR 2499, the bill on Puerto Rico...

They are voting tomorrow on this.

"It is being presented to allow the people of PR to vote in a non binding way and then in a two step process they can go back and decide whether they want to be a state"  "In 1952, 1967 and two other dates the people of PR voted on statehood and they voted it down"  Beck is saying they are already getting services so why should they become a state"

"In reality it is going to give them a legitimacy....they will implement what they call the TN plan, part of their party platform and they can send their 6 congressman and two senators and say they have to be seated"

Beck is promising evidence tonight on his program.

Chavitz said "this is about really the fundamental transformation of America"  Beck is saying that researchers for the republicans have been "up all night" finding out about this because this was "by surprise".

Puerto Rico and Washington DC would gain statehood?

Washington DC?

They gotta vote this thing down, there are a lot of hidden tctics....has 58 republican co sponsors and Chavitz said he realizes he has been mislead. 

Beck is saying Americans are being shoved through a meat grinder.

Chavitz believes "the majority of people in PR don't even want this, they voted it down 4 X's in a row  and there are 2.5 million people throughout the US who will be able to vote about what should happen to PR even though they aren't there.

Chavitz sounds pretty upset about this.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:25 AM (p302b)

16

I've now been sick for two full weeks.

I think I'm going to survive, but damn this is taking too long.

See JWF, about 3 stories down, for this lovely scene:

In a scene straight out of the Al Pacino movie "And Justice for All," Parker was repeatedly ruled out order.

"You're out of order!" he screamed back. "This committee's out of order!"

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 05:27 AM (XdlcF)

17 Katya left this on the ONT so I figured I would bring it over here where she would have put it if she could have:
"OT, but I gotta go to work and will miss the headline thread.  Why is the govt trying to ban McDonald's Happy Meal toys? 

http://tinyurl.com/3ahbjv5  Posted by: katya at April 28, 2010 08:06 AM (Gorqm)"



Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:29 AM (p302b)

18

15  Hmm, dingbat did mention 57 states -- wonder what other 5 places are in the works to receive statehood?  They would be solidly blue, of course.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:31 AM (5/yRG)

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 05:31 AM (fx8sm)

20

Re:  the immigration uproar:   Retaliation!  Back atcha, commies! Boycott San Francisco.  Go to the San Diego Zoo instead for the same experience.  I would also say boycott their products, too, except I believe the only manufacturing they allow these days is that Ghirardelli chocolate.  Godiva is better, if you  really insist on eating overpriced snob chocolate.  Better yet, boycott all Dems and RINOS (especially Lindsay Graham)  during the next election.

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at April 28, 2010 05:31 AM (PZLW0)

21 Puerto Rico and DC would be as blue as San Fran.  Toss in blanket amnesty, 30 mil new voters, a new generation enslaved to an ever-expanding welfare state...perm Democrat majority!  And after all, what else really matters?

Posted by: DNC at April 28, 2010 05:31 AM (DlXP/)

22 Somebody get ParisParamus to the Deprogramming Chamber stat!

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 28, 2010 05:31 AM (rOd1g)

23 I love Al Sharpton.

Wow... well, that makes you... and Al's mom.. and... and.. well, and you I guess.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 28, 2010 05:32 AM (e8T35)

24 support arizona! 70% of our citizens are in favor of our new border law..........if you have friends that are joining the anti arizona groups....bring this up at every opportunity....the arizona law was taken directly from federal law that already exists....the feds are not enforcing their own law.....we simply made it the state law.....we are a state filled with legal immigrants and we all get along fine! our legal immigrants are supporting the new law....ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE UNDERCUT OUR ECONOMY! THEY DO NOT BUY AUTO INSURANCE, THEY FILL OUR EMERGENCY ROOMS, THEY FILL OUR JAILS AND PRISONS, THEY TAKE REAL JOBS FROM CITIZENS AND STEAL IDENTITIES TO DO SO! COMING HERE ILLEGALLY DOES NOT MAKE A BETTER LIFE...IT MAKES THEM A CRIMINAL.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 28, 2010 05:32 AM (ucxC/)

25 MamaAJ, the best Al Pacino "out of order quote" came from Scent of A Woman:

Out of order, I show you out of order. You don't know what out of order is, Mr. Trask. I'd show you, but I'm too old, I'm too tired, I'm too fuckin' blind. If I were the man I was five years ago, I'd take a FLAMETHROWER to this place! Out of order? Who the hell do you think you're talkin' to? I've been around, you know? There was a time I could see. And I have seen. Boys like these, younger than these, their arms torn out, their legs ripped off. But there isn't nothin' like the sight of an amputated spirit. There is no prosthetic for that. You think you're merely sending this splendid foot soldier back home to Oregon with his tail between his legs, but I say you are... executin' his soul! And why? Because he's not a Bairdman. Bairdmen. You hurt this boy, you're gonna be Baird bums, the lot of ya. And Harry, Jimmy, Trent, wherever you are out there, FUCK YOU TOO!

Outstanding scene.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 05:33 AM (QrA9E)

26 Well it seems that the two big stories in the media today are still the Goldman Sachs farce on capital hill and the Nazi outbreak in AZ.

Well, as to the Goldman Sachs farce my recommendation would be to keep a hypocrisy meter by both your TV and Computer and be ready to shut either down if the meter starts to redline, which of course it will quite often.

And as to the Nazi outbreak in Arizona, that's what happens if you don't spray for them often enough. 

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 28, 2010 05:34 AM (e8T35)

27

17  More nanny state nannying?

 

Back when I was a kid there was this word my parents used, which I in turn used on my own young...I think it was "no".  Also the phrase "get outside and play/so chorse and quit loafing around".  Seemed to keep us from getting flabby.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:34 AM (5/yRG)

28 AZ: We are going to make and enforce laws that protect the USA from illegal migration. Fed: You can't, that's my job. AZ: OK, then do it. Feds: You can't tell me what to do. AZ: Lick me, I'm doing it then.

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2010 05:36 AM (6tqEs)

29 They are talking about HR 2499, the bill on Puerto Rico. I believe Puerto Ricans don't pay federal income tax. Can a Moron put me some knowledge?

Posted by: fluffy at April 28, 2010 05:36 AM (4Kl5M)

30

As has been stated previously, PR statehood has been voted on multiple times over the last few decades and the status quo has won every time. Polling has always showed that the people of PR prefer commonwealth status, and why shouldn't they? They are US citizens, they have all the rights and privileges of citizenship, including the right to vote if living on the mainland, they can come and go to the mainland as they please, they get welfare and all the other stuff, and they pay no income taxes on the island.

This isn't about PR at all, it's about advancing leftism in the US.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 28, 2010 05:37 AM (JxMoP)

31 do chores -- not enough coffee has reached my fingers yet, bleh.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:37 AM (5/yRG)

32 #18

wonder what other 5 places are in the works to receive statehood?  They would be solidly blue, of course.

Think Eastern Canada and Quebec.

Posted by: Kemp at April 28, 2010 05:38 AM (2+9Yx)

33 I believe Puerto Ricans don't pay federal income tax. Can a Moron put me some knowledge?

That's correct.  They pay if they work in mainland US, of course, but not from income made doing whatever it is they do down there.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 28, 2010 05:38 AM (Qc8IW)

34

32  Oh, that would be just dandy....not!

 

Fortunately, I don't think the Quebecois could stand being part of the Great Satan, so I think we're safe.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:39 AM (5/yRG)

35

April 28 (Bloomberg) -- Prime Minister Gordon Brown was caught by a microphone calling a voter heÂ’d just met in northern England “a bigoted woman,” describing the encounter as “a disaster.”

“She is just the sort of bigoted woman who said she used to be Labour,” Brown said in the car. “That was a disaster. Who put me with that woman?” Speaking in an interview on Sky News later, he said he’d apologized to Ms. Duffy.

And yet when Barry talked about people "clinging to their guns and religion" it was treated as nothing by our non-biased media. In fact if it happened here the US media would be tearing through this woman's life to destroy her

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 28, 2010 05:39 AM (1Jaio)

36 If this bill, HR 2499, contains a requirement to make DC a State, or give it Senators then it is blatantly unconstitutional. I suspect it would also be fairly easy for anyone to gain standing on it as well.

As for PR, I am not too worried about it. The Puerto Ricans will vote it down once again.

And even if they don't I don't expect to see PT admitted as a State unless another State is admitted at the same time that balances the political alignment. The politicians will never allow it otherwise unless one party or the other has absolute dominance of congress.

On that, the Commies are too late.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 05:39 AM (QrA9E)

37
Politico - no really, the press IS REALLY, REALLY UPSET with their boyfriend, no matter what you may see at the WH Correspondent's Dinner this Saturday.

All they do is sit in their room and cry and draw little hearts on their notebook, waiting for Wee Wee to call.   


Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 05:39 AM (fx8sm)

38 "18

15  Hmm, dingbat did mention 57 states -- wonder what other 5 places are in the works to receive statehood?  They would be solidly blue, of course.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 09:31 AM (5/yRG)"

Was just reading the wiki page.  we have incorporated and unincorporated territories and some are insular and some are not.  Puerto Rico is grouped with Guam, the North Mariana Islands, the Virgin Islands and Guam. 

Palmyra Atoll was not part of Hawaii when it became a state, apparently this was deliberately done.  the phillipines?

the vote is for a "self determined federally sanctioned puerto rico"

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:40 AM (p302b)

39 First!

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 05:41 AM (1fanL)

40 39  Late again baby.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:42 AM (5/yRG)

41 38  Somehow I can't see any of those places wanting statehood -- I can't really see PR wanting statehood either, but we live in strange times.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:43 AM (5/yRG)

42 what? i'm listening to this Beck PR thing too, is this for real? wtf?

Posted by: Adrian at April 28, 2010 05:43 AM (Y5VGm)

43

Why is the govt trying to ban McDonald's Happy Meal toys? 

That is amazingly stupid.

What, the kids don't actually like french fries and nuggets and so without the toy, they won't want the meal?

They'll get the meal now and eat it while watching tv instead of running around playing with the toy?

Another day, another tantrum by the nanny state. Which is weird when you think about it. The nanny isn't supposed to be the one saying "you're not playing the way I want, so I'm taking my toy and going home."

 

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 05:44 AM (XdlcF)

44 Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 09:43 AM (5/yRG)

hahahhha if they become states....they get to have a new experience...they get to pay income tax...and the dems get more "in the bag" representatives.

It's DC that is concerning....the founders specifically did not want DC to be a state according to Beck.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:45 AM (p302b)

45 I speak Puerto Rican, but with a slight Austrian accent.

Posted by: Easy Bake at April 28, 2010 05:45 AM (6tqEs)

46 Why is the govt trying to ban McDonald's Happy Meal toys?

It's all part of the plan.  If the govt is paying for health care, it has a justification for regulating every aspect of our lives.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 05:46 AM (1fanL)

47 44 That's the one thing that is truly disturbing, but is the weak point.  One could make good arguement that PR, since it gets all the bennies of statehood, should become a state and help carry the load through income tax, but D.C.?  I don't see that one going over.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:47 AM (5/yRG)

48

Rrmph.

Word up.

Can't hear Beck (using the work computer, heh heh heh), but if it's anything like his TV show ... I can only take him in small doses before I have to go outside and get some fresh air. Every time I watch a whole show I end up under the coffee table, singing "Mary Had A Little Lamb" in a high-pitched voice and rocking back and forth.

Posted by: Joanna at April 28, 2010 05:48 AM (7+WuG)

49

What, the kids don't actually like french fries and nuggets and so without the toy, they won't want the meal?

Yes, apparently their theory is that kids want the toy so they convince the parents to buy them the happy meal to get the toy, then they eat the trans fats and get obese and cost the country money.

The reality is that the kids want the chicken nuggets or the cheeseburger and the toy is just icing on the cake. The only time my kids have ever wanted a happy meal for the toy is when they contained Star Wars stuff, otherwise, they couldn't have cared less.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 28, 2010 05:48 AM (JxMoP)

50 Anybody have any thoughts wrt to Stutzman in the Indiana senate primary May 4? Should I donate or keep my powder dry? What is that special election in PA? Is that Murtha's old seat? All my congress critters are DNC shills so I wont get anywhere urging them not to vote to ruin the country, I have to put my energies into the elections. Thanks

Posted by: PaleRider at April 28, 2010 05:49 AM (XB2s0)

51 The congressman Chavitz?  said there are 58 republican co sponsors and they have been "mislead" about the bill, he admitted he was mislead until he started looking into it.  Did you get the impression, Adrian, that there are little goodies hidden in the bill which will bite us in the butt vis a vie immigration?  I'm thinking they might be trying the back door road to immigration since the governor of arizona sort of closed the front door.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:50 AM (p302b)

52 Puerto rico is never going to become a state if the Puerto Rican people can prevent it.  They enjoy almost all of the benefits of being a state with the exception of voting in mainland elections.  They pay no income tax, they get all the welfare benefits, etc.  Why in the heck would they want to give that up?

Posted by: Johnnyreb at April 28, 2010 05:51 AM (Mv/2X)

53 the founders specifically did not want DC to be a state according to Beck. Posted by: curious The DC statehood question is a good one for revealing ignorance and childish, emotional thinking.

Posted by: Easy Bake at April 28, 2010 05:51 AM (6tqEs)

54

46 And like every government initiative -- makes no sense and will not work.

Kids like Happy Meals because they are junk food goodness; parents buy kids the meals (not in moderation) because they are too lazy to cook or too wimpy to say "no" and make it stick.

For the rest of us, the happy meals were for on the road type eating, and the damn toys were a way to keep the tots occupied (and not bugging the driver).

I smell a shakedown.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 05:52 AM (5/yRG)

55 *sigh* effing sock

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2010 05:53 AM (6tqEs)

56 Next they're gonna ban play areas in McDonald's. And the colorful decor. And Ronald McDonald. Everything will have to be dark brown and black, with Wagner operas playing on a loop. For the children!

Posted by: Adrian at April 28, 2010 05:53 AM (Y5VGm)

57 I have reviewed HR 2499, it is a short bill AND there is nothing in it about DC. I don't know where Beck is getting that shit from.

The only thing in it I find troubling is part of the section dealing with the second vote IF they determine in the first vote that they wish to change their status:

(2) Sovereignty in Association with the United States: Puerto Rico and the United States should form a political association between sovereign nations that will not be subject to the Territorial Clause of the United States Constitution. If you agree, mark here XX.

It is hard to determine exactly what that section means as a choice without being familiar with all the court cases revolving around this.

No ballot proposition should EVER be presented this way in pure legalese. If I don;t understand it, I am sure most of the voters in PR will not understand it.

The other thing that bothers me is the automatic re-vote every 8 years.   In other word, if the commies are defeated they get an automatic try again at least every 8 years or any other time they can wangle a vote. 

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 05:55 AM (QrA9E)

58

But the reality is that... I am the Tyranny

and you are the weak, Ringo.

But I'm trying REAL HARD to be the shepherd...

Posted by: Jules at April 28, 2010 05:55 AM (90oki)

59 Hell, I wish we could just ban McPukils. The sumbitches donate to every left wing cause in the country, and working for the bastards is like being an indentured servant. Lots of work, piss poor pay. I had to work for them in college. I haven't bought anything from Pukils in 35 years. Exxon can get hosed too.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2010 05:56 AM (OlN4e)

60 Curious, I just got up like ten minutes ago and turned on the radio and heard Beck talking about Puerto Rican statehood, I am frightened and confused, I think I hear satan in my toilet bowl again, I have no idea what is going on, I cannot give a coherent answer on this topic.

Posted by: Adrian at April 28, 2010 05:56 AM (Y5VGm)

61 All MickyDees has to do is include an Obama/US State card in each Happy Meal and the Lefties will back off. "Collect all 57!"

Posted by: eman at April 28, 2010 05:56 AM (6tqEs)

62 Obama Praises Kuwaiti Muslim Comic Book for Teaching the “Tolerance of Islam”… http://z3qh5.th8.us  Zero loves him some islam.

Posted by: conscious, but clearly incoherent at April 28, 2010 05:57 AM (YVZlY)

63 For those who wish to read the bill

http://tinyurl.com/2vc82re

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 05:57 AM (QrA9E)

64

I thought the problem with the PR vote this time is that they don't have the chance to remain a commonwealth. The choices are statehood or full independence.

I'll go look for a link. If I didn't imagine the story...can I use TinyUrl to link to my imagination?

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 05:58 AM (XdlcF)

65 Posted by: Johnnyreb at April 28, 2010 09:51 AM (Mv/2X)

Apparently, the PR's in PR don't want it...but there are people on the mainland who were born in PR and they are apparently quite a crowd and they are going to be permitted to vote on state hood too....

You have to give it to them....they don't sleep....they work 24/7 and you never know what they are going to hit you with next...

For a guy who still has so many "spots" open for which he can hire, it certainly seems like he employs a cast of thousands.  Oh wait, guess the campaign can get you to work for free in your area of expertise for the good of the country and to help out BO.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 05:59 AM (p302b)

66 Vic, sounds like they're stealing the playbook from the Quebec separatist dickwads. Every poll showed there was no way separatism, plainly put, would win, so for the referendum they purposefully used the most confusing and vague wording possible, and it almost worked, they came this close to winning.

Posted by: Adrian at April 28, 2010 06:00 AM (Y5VGm)

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 28, 2010 06:00 AM (0fzsA)

68

(2) Sovereignty in Association with the United States: Puerto Rico and the United States should form a political association between sovereign nations that will not be subject to the Territorial Clause of the United States Constitution. If you agree, mark here XX.

It is hard to determine exactly what that section means as a choice without being familiar with all the court cases revolving around this.

No ballot proposition should EVER be presented this way in pure legalese. If I don;t understand it, I am sure most of the voters in PR will not understand it.

I assume this is an obtuse way of asking people if they believe that PR should become an independent nation, which incidentally has almost always received the least support on referenda. I believe the only time that PR independence polled close to the other options was in the heady and radical 70s, and even then it wasn't even close to a majority opinion.

It's the standard left wing trick of confusing people into voting for something they normally would not support.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 28, 2010 06:00 AM (JxMoP)

69

Because borders are like, laws and stuff man, ya know?  And that just isn't cool.

Posted by: Libertarian at April 28, 2010 06:00 AM (DlXP/)

70 And how many PR's would actually pay federal income taxes, 15%? They aren't worried about paying taxes, trust me.

Posted by: Peter Potamus at April 28, 2010 06:01 AM (1HKg5)

71

When do we vote on statehood for our other commonwealths: Kentucky, Mass, Pennsylvania and Virginia?

All those who think that anyone in PR would be paying income tax after statehood, levante la mano derecha.

 

Posted by: comatus at April 28, 2010 06:01 AM (/VEEI)

72 Good post Vic, (#
"Never mind that there is NOTHING in the bill to cure what actually caused this mess.  But then again, that is the same as all other congressional legislation for after the fact government caused fiascos."

Is the public really too stupid to understand that just because something is called a reform bill it might not be? I don't think so, so republicans shouldn't be afraid of saying so.

Posted by: Randy at April 28, 2010 06:01 AM (GtTYq)

73 Yeah don't worry Puerto Ricans, God love ya.  We won't charge you income tax for stealing hubcaps and hanging out in front of the bodega all day.

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Biden at April 28, 2010 06:03 AM (DlXP/)

74

Okay, not as bad as I thought.

If a majority of Puerto Ricans vote in favor of changing the status of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico to “a different political status,” then a second vote would be scheduled to poll voters on the following three options: 

“Independence: Puerto Rico should become fully independent from the United States;” “Sovereignty in Association with the United States: Puerto Rico and the United States should form a political association between sovereign nations that will not be subject to the Territorial Clause of the United States Constitution;” and, “Statehood: Puerto Rico should be admitted as a State of the Union.”

Then there's the part that lets people living here vote there...

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 06:04 AM (XdlcF)

75 the VAT, however, will be a different story. Everyone will pay the VAT.

Posted by: Peter Potamus at April 28, 2010 06:04 AM (1HKg5)

76 I'll go look for a link. If I didn't imagine the story...can I use TinyUrl to link to my imagination?

I gave a link at 64.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 06:04 AM (QrA9E)

77 I see that Al Gore is lashing out at reporters. (for more pie)

Posted by: Fritz at April 28, 2010 06:05 AM (GwPRU)

78 Adrian, Beck was really scary this morning but wow, for Beck, he was serious as a heart attack.  And Chavitz, the congressman, was all over the lot he was that upset.  I'm thinking there is a lot of stuff buried in this bill to grease the skids for immigration or something else considering what they both said and how they both behaved.  I mean Beck went on and on about how Chavitz was a very brave man to do this?  To talk about a bill on PR?   That takes bravery?   Nah gotta be something else in there that he wants the audience to dig up.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:05 AM (p302b)

79 Is the public really too stupid to understand that just because something is called a reform bill it might not be?



Yes, sigh. With the MSM in their pocket, the Dems are winning this easily. Heard on the FOX news radio newscast last night: "The Republicans are forwarding an alternate proposal with fewer consumer protections." Really, Fox, really? That's the difference? Argh.

Posted by: Adrian at April 28, 2010 06:05 AM (Y5VGm)

80 Let's start a movement that if they can vote to become a State we can vote to NOT continue to be a State.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 06:05 AM (QrA9E)

81

66 That would be a vital piece of info.  I can't see PR going for statehood, unless the only other option is full independence -- that they would avoid like the plague.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 06:06 AM (5/yRG)

82

I thought the problem with the PR vote this time is that they don't have the chance to remain a commonwealth. The choices are statehood or full independence.

If that's the case, then I think statehood would definitely win as polls usually show the status quo as the most popular option, followed by statehood, with independence far behind both.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 28, 2010 06:06 AM (JxMoP)

83 " Really, Fox, really? That's the difference? Argh.

Fox has been drifting more and more into the Obama camp since the Saudi's bought into it.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 06:08 AM (QrA9E)

84

Why are die hard libertarians such idiots about the border and border security?

The border gets in the way of the weed traffic, dude.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 28, 2010 06:08 AM (B+qrE)

85 All should go read the bill. It is only one page long.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 06:08 AM (QrA9E)

86 @4
Yeah, some of the comments are classic.
I have to say that I'm a little surprised he had to shoot the coyote.  When my dog and I encounter them around here, they never approach.  Sometimes they freeze but usually they jog away.  But I suppose Perry's puppy might have approached the coyote, being young and friendly.  My dog just stands there. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:08 AM (Kn9r7)

87 Remember Blair House!

Posted by: Leslie Coffelt at April 28, 2010 06:10 AM (/VEEI)

88

Goldman Sachs stork dance continues.  Congressmen from both sides content that their constituents are idiots:

http://tinyurl.com/24q8wea


 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 28, 2010 06:11 AM (r1h5M)

89 "This reform bill is the beginning of global financial regulation, they are going to be able to reach in and tax you for a global system that you have nothing to do with".....Beck

Last night I heard a congress man or senator say that "they can look into your bank accounts and private stuff if they want to do that"....
that made me nervous, they come out with all this privacy crap when you go to the doctor yet they can now look at your financial situation?

I've been looking for that video, can't remember what channel I was watching but I heard the change in cadence from  the elected official and looked up jsut in time to hear what I posted.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:11 AM (p302b)

90 62 Question for everyone..

Why are die hard libertarians such idiots about the border and border security?

fify

Scratch below the surface of libertarians and you usually come up with some idiotic and unpalatable positions. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:12 AM (Kn9r7)

91 All should go read the bill. It is only one page long. Little sissy

Posted by: Financial Reform Bill at April 28, 2010 06:12 AM (4Kl5M)

92

Scratch below the surface of libertarians and you usually come up with some idiotic and unpalatable positions. 

And loads and loads of THC.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 28, 2010 06:13 AM (B+qrE)

93 hahaha, Beck's got "Arlen Specter" on his show.

Posted by: Peter Potamus at April 28, 2010 06:14 AM (1HKg5)

94 82  The key might be the clause "sovereignty in association"...nice little backdoor way to set precedent for a NA Union, no?  And coupled with people living here getting to vote there?

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 06:14 AM (5/yRG)

95 All should go read the bill. It is only one page long.

Little sissy

Ain't that the truth. I went to read that bill as well (tried to) and it was worse than the damn Obamacare abortion.

I skimmed through it and found no redeeming factors looking at the titles of the sections and reviewing some of those sections.

If I was in the Senate I would submit a bill to expel every sponsor and co-sponsor who submitted incomprehensible bills over a hundred pages long.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 06:16 AM (QrA9E)

96

can I use TinyUrl to link to my imagination?

>I gave a link at 64.

Stop linking my imagination, man!

Okay, so outside of my imagination, they can vote to keep the status quo, because there are two separate votes.

Sorry 'bout the confusion.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 06:16 AM (XdlcF)

97 Look how long it has taken for these elected officials to even have a rudimentary understanding to even question GS.   That's because bloggers like Zero Hedge and GS 666, and clusterstock and dealbreaker and the market ticker guy have been posting on this from the beginning and their commenters have provided them with more and more information.  So all the senate staffers have to do is read all those sites plus banks implode and connect the dots and figure it out....and watching the questions...it looks like they still don't understand what they are even asking so no one is connecting any dots...
this is a time when the senators should ask Charlie Gasparino and David faber to step in and help out for the good of the country.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:16 AM (p302b)

98

Opponents of Arizona Immigration Law are tweeting for a boycott of Arizona Iced Tea..the problem is Arizona Iced Tea is made in New York! http://7bcg3.th8.us

HereÂ’s two messages the NYDaily found:

“Dear Arizona: If you don’t change your immigration policy, I will have to stop drinking your enjoyable brand of iced tea,” Twittered Jody Beth in Los Angeles.

“It is the drink of fascists,” wrote Travis Nichols in Chicago.

Posted by: conscious, but clearly incoherent at April 28, 2010 06:16 AM (YVZlY)

99 Not much of a boycott person, but what the hell:

Save America, Boycott San Fran, Its for the children

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 06:19 AM (7VvJB)

100 Sweet!  Obama gives Congress the middle finger on Fort Hood Document subpoena because it "Would jeopardize the prosecution".

Hey fuck face.  The whole nation saw him shoot down 13 people.  Nothign is going to "jeopardize" that, ya fuck nut.

The only thing it WILL Jeopardize is your coddling of terrorists.

You un American shit stain.

Posted by: MelodicMetal at April 28, 2010 06:19 AM (x4S2a)

101

Beck's got "Arlen Specter" on his show.

I like the use of the quotation marks there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 28, 2010 06:20 AM (B+qrE)

102 Beck is equating the economic conditions now to 7 am on 9/11....Beck says "how do you convince people at 7 am on 9/11 that planes have taken off and are about to hit tall buildings"....


Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:21 AM (p302b)

103

100

Thanks for the link, I'd heard him on the radio and liked him, was not aware he is also handsome. That should swing some undecided soccer mommies his way.

Also, do PA voters know that Corbett has a primary challenger? I made sure I was registered in my new precinct so I can vote for him May 18.

Posted by: kallisto at April 28, 2010 06:21 AM (+FkcS)

104 104  I suddenly feel thirsty for some of that Ginseng and Honey infused tea...it's kinda tasty.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 06:21 AM (5/yRG)

105
I have to say that I'm a little surprised he had to shoot the coyote.

Could have been rabid.  That's the biggest problem with coyotes, even with the massive vaccination program we did here.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 06:21 AM (fx8sm)

106 Vic, or if we can vote PR in - can we vote CA out?

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2010 06:22 AM (OlnxK)

107

 

59 Hell, I wish we could just ban McPukils. The sumbitches donate to every left wing cause in the country . . .

Roy Kroc was an okay guy.

Mrs. Kroc is a far left idiot.

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 28, 2010 06:23 AM (QWSUs)

108 Anyone know what the polls are within PR? I seem to remember this being an issue for a bit during the Clinton years, and I don't think statehood was a slam dunk. I could be totally wrong.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 28, 2010 06:23 AM (qSRHZ)

109

“Dear Arizona: If you don’t change your immigration policy, I will have to stop drinking your enjoyable brand of iced tea,” Twittered Jody Beth in Los Angeles.

“It is the drink of fascists,” wrote Travis Nichols in Chicago.

Fundamental weakness of our current brand of representative democracy:  These people can vote.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 28, 2010 06:23 AM (B+qrE)

110

A Tiny URL that the morons can truly appreciate IYKWIMAITYD:

ItÂ’s Official: Barack Obama Is A Pariah http://bit.ly/csFFuk

Posted by: conscious, but clearly incoherent at April 28, 2010 06:24 AM (YVZlY)

111 Can we expect NPR to make a 'funny' cartoon about "How To Speak Illegal Alien Protest?" Nazi! Nazi! Fascist! Nazi!

Posted by: Peter Potamus at April 28, 2010 06:25 AM (1HKg5)

112 Vic, or if we can vote PR in - can we vote CA out?

LOL, now that is something I have been advocating for a while now and not just CA.

Instead of another disastrous civil war (or war between the States) instead of individual States voting for secession, we could vote for expelling those States who refuse to abide by the Constitution.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 06:25 AM (QrA9E)

113 Your typical lefty thinks it's "facism" if they have to wait in a line more than 5 minutes. They've completely watered-down that word.

Posted by: mr crowley at April 28, 2010 06:25 AM (DlXP/)

114

Scratch below the surface of libertarians and you usually come up with some idiotic and unpalatable positions. 
Posted by: Y-not


The few that I know are good on the economy and stuff like that.. calling out fiscal irresponsibility..  but beyond that, they get a little...   moronic with their views..

to the point where if I'm in the same room with them, I want to smile politely and back out slowly.

As someone who consideres himself a quasi-libertarian, the problem is there isn't a standard set of beliefs for libertarians. People who are agnostic about many issues tend to just generically call themselves libertarians.

I think one of my issues with the mainstream libertarian movement is their view on national defense. In my heart I don't want america to have bases all over the world, or have americans dir for people who will spit on us after we free them, or spend one dollar defending a nation that isn't america. However, there is a reality that I have to accept and that is Pax Americana, no matter how costly to us, is better for the world than the alternative. If we were ever to withdraw from the world, it would spark off massive regional wars. When a major power leaves a vacuum it doesn't remain a vacuum, nations step forward to fill the void and often violently.

This doesn't mean we can't leave some nations, or be involved a little less in some areas, however a complete withdraw to isolationism isn't practical.

I think that is the main reason I can't call myself a full fledged libertarian or join the libertarian party.

Also I am not sure what their stance on immigration is.

 

 

But when it comes to drugs, taxes, spending, government, freedom(even ones i don't personally care for), and most other issues I tend to be on board with them

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:26 AM (wuv1c)

115 When will the AOSHQ be getting an advanced copy of Michelle Obama's Memoirs?  Soon I hope, - why, they practically write themselves.

Posted by: Fritz at April 28, 2010 06:27 AM (GwPRU)

116 They've completely watered-down that word.

To the typical lefty anything that is to the "right" of Marx is Fascism despite the fact that Fascism is also leftest.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 06:27 AM (QrA9E)

117 Beck had Pat Toomey on as a guest and Beck's sidekick was interjecting as Specter. It was funny.

Posted by: Peter Potamus at April 28, 2010 06:28 AM (1HKg5)

118 The few that I know are good on the economy and stuff like that.. calling out fiscal irresponsibility..  but beyond that, they get a little...   moronic with their views..

The hit I often get off of them (aside from the ridiculous foreign policy stuff and love of weed) is that they are pretty much into survival of the fittest, so on a personal level these are not people I would want as my neighbors. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:28 AM (Kn9r7)

119 For those of you enjoying Sunny, warm weather today, I envy you.  There is a raging blizzard going on outside right now.  And yes, I cranked up the hot tub last weekend.  In hindsight, a bad move on my part.

Posted by: conscious, but clearly incoherent at April 28, 2010 06:28 AM (YVZlY)

120 Vic, or if we can vote PR in - can we vote CA out?

Hell, at this point I would like my state to vote itself out.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 06:30 AM (7VvJB)

121

And yes, I cranked up the hot tub last weekend.

Does it also double as a time machine?  If so, please fetch 1983 Phoebe Cates for me.  I'll pay the postage.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 28, 2010 06:31 AM (B+qrE)

122 Here's something bizarre. Puerto Rican funeral home presents shooting victim on his motorcycle. It's very lifelike. http://cli.gs/Y6hmGh

Posted by: CyclopsJack at April 28, 2010 06:31 AM (a4o2p)

123 @112
Could have been rabid. 

Yeah.  And even without that I bet the puppy was overly friendly and tried to approach the coyote. 

Are hollow point bullets the best choice for a populated area or was he out in the woods somewhere?  Or maybe hollow points are a good choice -- do they self-destruct on impact, reducing how far they travel and ricochet?

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:32 AM (Kn9r7)

124

I have to say that I'm a little surprised he had to shoot the coyote.

Could have been rabid.  That's the biggest problem with coyotes, even with the massive vaccination program we did here.

i find it impressive he hit and killed a coyote with a .380.

Most .380's i've fired are wildly inaccurate over 15 feet and that bullet doesnt have much stopping power. He must have hit either its brain or its heart to put it down that quickly.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:33 AM (wuv1c)

125

Here's something bizarre. Puerto Rican funeral home presents shooting victim on his motorcycle. It's very lifelike.

http://cli.gs/Y6hmGh

They did something like that on the TV show Six Feet Under. I think a gang banger was killed and his fellow gang members wanted him embalmed and standing in a thug like post for his wake.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:34 AM (wuv1c)

126 Most .380's i've fired are wildly inaccurate over 15 feet and that bullet doesnt have much stopping power.

Wouldn't the hollow point bullet be great for stopping power?

Sheesh, if the weapon is inaccurate, I really hope he was in some remote location. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:34 AM (Kn9r7)

127

120  Don't worry -- I think they're going to find out exactly what that word really means here very shortly.

unfortunately, the rest of us are too...

Posted by: unknown jane at April 28, 2010 06:36 AM (5/yRG)

128

Sweet!  Obama gives Congress the middle finger on Fort Hood Document subpoena because it "Would jeopardize the prosecution".

Hey fuck face.  The whole nation saw him shoot down 13 people.  Nothign is going to "jeopardize" that, ya fuck nut.

I hate to disagree with anybody badmouthing an idiot like the Jugeared Fuck, but wasn't Congress's show trial of Ollie North instrumental in cocksucker Lawrence Walsh's inability to convict him in Iran/Contra?  Maybe that doesn't apply here but I wouldn't trust Pelosi Galore and Dowager Hump Reid to do anything regarding this case.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 28, 2010 06:37 AM (V5s1P)

129
i find it impressive he hit and killed a coyote with a .380.

I kind of think the coyote was VERY, VERY close, this wasn't some kind of long-range engagement with a charging Wily E.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 06:38 AM (fx8sm)

130 More on HR 2499.  I don't like it because it doesn't give the people of PR the option to keep things as they are if things get to the second vote...

They get statehood the same way Tennessee did, just send elected representatives to DC and force congress to seat them.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=242149

Posted by: kf at April 28, 2010 06:38 AM (ytCsK)

131

Speaking of Lefty's watering down words and having a double standard, Boston sports talk disc jockey Fred Toetter had this to say about Tim Tebow's draft party:

“looked like some kind of Nazi rally . . . So lily-white is what I’m trying to say. Yeah, Stepford Wives.”

Will this get this clown fired - probably not. Of course, imagien the outrage if Mr. Toetter had called a black draftee's party "a Crips reunion" or some similar and equally stupid remark.

Oh, forgot, Tebow is pro-life, so of course, he must be a Nazi.

 Right because not killing babies is so NAZI like

Tim Tebow has sold more NFL jerseys than any other draft pick this year or in previous years.

Apparently this guy has a huge fan base. I don't know why everything thinks he will suck as a pro. Most analysts point to his weird delivery, but I seem to recall the same knock on San Diego's Philip Rivers, but he's done well for himself.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:39 AM (wuv1c)

132

i find it impressive he hit and killed a coyote with a .380.

I kind of think the coyote was VERY, VERY close, this wasn't some kind of long-range engagement with a charging Wily E.

He should have killed it with a ACME Anvil.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:41 AM (wuv1c)

133 Ok, this is funny (from the coyote article):
Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:42 AM (Kn9r7)

134 Most analysts point to his weird delivery

Yeah, I don't know quite what to make of it.  Steve Young didn't seem concerned by it. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:44 AM (Kn9r7)

135 He should have killed it with a ACME Anvil.

If he was a real man he'd use helicopters.

Posted by: Gov. Sarah Palin at April 28, 2010 06:45 AM (Kn9r7)

136
lots of us sit around and waste our time evaluating football players. Its called fantasy football.

Yeah, and there's no way I'm taking Tebow.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 06:45 AM (fx8sm)

137 138
i find it impressive he hit and killed a coyote with a .380.

I kind of think the coyote was VERY, VERY close, this wasn't some kind of long-range engagement with a charging Wily E.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 10:38 AM (fx8sm)

I wouldn't want this to happen, but it would be cool to see someone try to assassinate Perry and he whips out the .380 and blows the fool away

Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at April 28, 2010 06:45 AM (HVK7M)

138 Scratch below the surface of libertarians and you usually come up with some idiotic and unpalatable positions. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 10:12 AM (Kn9r7)

Careful.  A libertarian is a Republican who smokes pot.  Though Ben is right, there's not a standard set of beliefs, so any kook who wants less government in his favorite area can call himself a libertarian.

I would disagree about Pax Americana though.  America has more to gain from peace and normal trade relations than any other country, because we have a bigger economy and more trade than any other country.  So I'm OK with accepting more than our share of the "World's Policeman" burden.  Just not all of it, for crying out loud.  And I'd appreciate a little cooperation from the weenies on the sidelines.

Also, it's very comforting to me to have the most bad-ass military in the history of the world.  So maybe I'm not a libertarian, just a Republican who smokes pot.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 06:46 AM (1fanL)

139

Everything will have to be dark brown and black, with Wagner operas playing on a loop.

...I see no problem with this...

Posted by: goth entrepreneur, ready to open McMorrisey's at April 28, 2010 06:46 AM (5npD/)

140 Yeah, and there's no way I'm taking Tebow.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 10:45 AM (fx8sm)

I'd be surprised if he throws a pass longer than 5 yards this year.  I'm thinking short-yardage situations only.  He's got a long way to go.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 06:47 AM (1fanL)

141 Posted by: Mallamutt This morning ESPN replayed a clip of Kiper marveling over JaMarcus Russell on his draft day and predicting a great future for him. With that same condescending, know-it-all tone he always uses.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 28, 2010 06:48 AM (qSRHZ)

142

132, .380s have improved quite a bit in the past few years. I have one that'll put all its rounds into a single hole at 21 feet if I do my job right.

The power is on par with a .38 Special.

Posted by: Scott J. at April 28, 2010 06:49 AM (NY7mQ)

143 pro-life Nazi - I bet more of our public HS students know what an oxymoron is then would recognize that as an oxymoron.

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2010 06:50 AM (PjevJ)

144 If it hasn't been said, Toomey is having a money bomb today.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 06:50 AM (7VvJB)

145 Here are the three possibilities the bill presents to PR's voters should the initial plebiscite come out with a majority for changing PR's status: (1) Independence: Puerto Rico should become fully independent from the United States. If you agree, mark here XX. (2) Sovereignty in Association with the United States: Puerto Rico and the United States should form a political association between sovereign nations that will not be subject to the Territorial Clause of the United States Constitution. If you agree, mark here XX. (3) Statehood: Puerto Rico should be admitted as a State of the Union. If you agree, mark here XX. Vic is right: if the voters in PR approve changing their status, they'll either become a nation or eventually become a state, either the easy way or the hard way. This should scare us, a lot.

Posted by: joncelli at April 28, 2010 06:51 AM (RD7QR)

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:51 AM (p302b)

147 I don't know on the coyote. Usually they stay away but a couple years ago I was riding and had the dog tagging along. Ole is 75 lbs not snack sized. I was trucking along and I look back to check on the dog and a coyote is stalking him a couple hundred yards behind us. So I came galloping back. The coyote still didn't hightail away. It only dropped back and into the sagebrush alongside the dirt road. Ole kept close to me and the horse the rest of the way home. My theory was there was a partner coyote hiding in the brush.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 28, 2010 06:51 AM (H6Jf4)

148 re:  Beck radio program vs. Beck FNC show - Beck's radio program is better, IMO, because he has three hours to fill.  I seldom get to catch all three hours, but from the bits and pieces I hear, it seems like he usually puts most of the DIRE WARNING! stuff on first.  Then, once he's gotten through all of his news of the impending Barackalypse, he's still got an hour to go, so he brings out more of his lighthearted funny stuff.  I always enjoy hearing his last hour whenever I can manage to catch it.

Posted by: reason at April 28, 2010 06:52 AM (5npD/)

149

And in an era when the NFL obsesses about it image, one whould think Tebow would be a welcome addition. But, the Mel Kiper's of the world have an image of what a quarterback should look like and Tebow doesn't fit the part.

Posted by: Mallamutt at April 28, 2010 10:44 AM (V9SYy)

I'm sure Mel Kiper was one of the stupid fuzznuts that thought Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith and Jamarcus Russell would be outstanding NFL quarterbacks and were quite happy with Tom Brady not being drafted until the sixth round and Kurt Warner playing arena football.  The draft is a complete crapshoot where idiots make barely educated guesses on things that aren't quantifiable.  John Unitas and Len Dawson failed to latch on initially in the NFL; often it's a case of finding a good fit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 28, 2010 06:53 AM (V5s1P)

150

So, heard GBs rant about this PR bill on my drive in. I agree it's a bad bill but part of his rant seemed to me he's opposed to statehood for them ever.

Blue or not Article 4, Section 3 says:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union;
but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State;
nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States,
without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting
the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in
this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

It's always irked me they get all the bennies without paying taxes. Statehood or cut them loose I say.

Posted by: Scott J. at April 28, 2010 06:53 AM (NY7mQ)

151 This morning ESPN replayed a clip of Kiper marveling over JaMarcus Russell on his draft day and predicting a great future for him. With that same condescending, know-it-all tone he always uses.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 28, 2010 10:48 AM (qSRHZ)

Several years ago, ESPN was interviewing some head coach or Vice-President in Charge of the Draft, and asked what the guy thought about the fact that Mel Kiper disagreed with one of his draft picks.  The guy said "Who the hell is Mel Kiper?  No, seriously, who the hell is Mel Kiper?"

Who was that guy?  Help me.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 06:53 AM (1fanL)

152

I would disagree about Pax Americana though.  America has more to gain from peace and normal trade relations than any other country, because we have a bigger economy and more trade than any other country.  So I'm OK with accepting more than our share of the "World's Policeman" burden.  Just not all of it, for crying out loud.  And I'd appreciate a little cooperation from the weenies on the sidelines.

i think you agree with me. I was saying, deep down in my heart I wish we didn't have to sacrifice on behalf of others, but in reality we do. We do have a lot to lose if we recede into isolationism.

However, as you say, it makes it so much harder when the people who need you the most treat you like shit. How many nations have we freed only to be shunned by them? Japan and Eastern Europe are the only nations I can think of that are still appreciative.

it is nice have a kickass military as well, especially considering it is a volunteer force.

 

I will agree about the pot thing. a lot of republicans who smoke pot call themselves libertarian.

however that is a small part of libertarians. There are people like me, who consider themselves republican, but libertarian on social issues and drugs. Personally i don't like what people do in their personal lives, but i just don't want to use government to prevent them from doing so.

I don't care what you put into your body as long as i am not paying your medical bill, I don't care who you have sex with, as long as they are a consenting adult, and I don't care how you live your life as long as you understand you rights end where mine begin.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:53 AM (wuv1c)

153 The only fucking reason the Feds give a shit about Arizona is the potential loss of 30 million illegals granted amnesty and a Democratic Party card. The rest is just hyperbole and bullshit.

Goldman Sachs? Ah yes...the definition of American business-smart people stealing from stupid people. Making the most money with the least amount of work. When did they make that illegal?

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 06:53 AM (uFdnM)

154 tax cheat Tim Geithner?

Posted by: Peter Potamus at April 28, 2010 06:53 AM (1HKg5)

155 "Who in the hell is Mel Kiper, anyway?  I mean, here's a guy who criticizes everybody, whoever they take.  In my knowledge of him, he's never even put on a jockstrap, he's never been a player, he's never been a coach, he's never been a scout, he's never been an administrator, and all of a sudden, he's an expert.  Mel Kiper has no more credentials to do what he's doing than my neighbor, and my neighbor's a postman and he doesn't even have season tickets to the NFL."  This was from Indianapolis Colts GM Bill Tobin back in 1994 in response to Kiper's criticism of the Colts draft picks.

Ah, the power of the Internet.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 06:54 AM (1fanL)

156 Surfing the Internet really improved when Melissa Theuriau became a default image for the Adbots.

Posted by: Media Mogul at April 28, 2010 06:55 AM (8/DeP)

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 06:55 AM (p302b)

158 Careful.  A libertarian is a Republican who smokes pot.

Not the ones I've met.  They are really much more fringe than that.  They reject government on a much deeper level. 

The pot-smoking thing is a loser issue, imho, because it either says that their priorities (not to mention their understanding of human physiology) are way off base or that they are copacetic with the notion that we can all pick and choose which laws we want to follow.  Either position is unacceptable to me. 

But beyond the pot issue, the libertarians I've spoken with really don't give a damn about anyone else.  Now, I think it's fine to say that the private sector should shoulder the bulk of life's issues and challenges, but it is naive to think that everything can be handled that way and that government does not have some role to help the most unfortunate. 

Hell, some of the libertarians I've met don't even accept a role for local government.  I mean, they are against public parks, libraries, and all the other things that local governments do at the direction of their citizens.

So basically my hit off of these folks is "I've got mine and I don't give a rat's ass what happens to any of my fellow citizens." 

Maybe it's because my dad was a social worker (probation officer), but no amount of ideological purity arguments will persuade me that there is no role for government in trying to get people back on track and self-sufficient. 

Posted by: Gov. Sarah Palin at April 28, 2010 06:56 AM (Kn9r7)

159 The problem with Beck, and I watch him routinely, is he leans toward the fantastic. It is residue of being on radio his whole life. Second nature to increase ratings. I believe a lot of what he says but it now goes through a filter. When he says you don't want to miss this episode I think "he must want a ratings boost."

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at April 28, 2010 06:56 AM (tzcjs)

160 Ok, I should be so hawt as Gov. Sarah Palin. 
/sockpuppet off

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 06:56 AM (Kn9r7)

161

re:  Beck radio program vs. Beck FNC show - Beck's radio program is better, IMO, because he has three hours to fill.  I seldom get to catch all three hours, but from the bits and pieces I hear, it seems like he usually puts most of the DIRE WARNING! stuff on first.  Then, once he's gotten through all of his news of the impending Barackalypse, he's still got an hour to go, so he brings out more of his lighthearted funny stuff.  I always enjoy hearing his last hour whenever I can manage to catch it.

I can't listen or watch either anymore. I am not home at 5 to watch his show anyway. But I can't stand his radio show anymore. I used to tune in to laugh, no I turn it off because it isn't funny anymore. His show used to be pure right wing comedy. Now glenn essentially treats the audience as his psychologist and just talks about whatever is on his mind at any given time. The worst is when he leans in real close to the microphone, speaks in a deep deep tone of voice, and makes long pauses to emphasize what he is saying.

I miss the old radio show. I know these are serious times, but i still need to laugh.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:57 AM (wuv1c)

162 This whole issue would be dead in a rational world. PR has all the bennies of statehood, and WHAT THEY DON"T LIKE THEY CAN CHANGE!!! If they want to be "American", become exactly like America. What's stopping them?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 28, 2010 06:57 AM (qSRHZ)

163 I agree, you would think the NFL would like to have a upstanding young man like Tebow be the face of the league, but here in bizarro world a pro-life athlete is apparently worse pr than ganstas shooting themselves in the leg.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 06:58 AM (7VvJB)

164

“looked like some kind of Nazi rally . . . So lily-white is what I’m trying to say. Yeah, Stepford Wives.”

Will this get this clown fired - probably not. Of course, imagien the outrage if Mr. Toetter had called a black draftee's party "a Crips reunion" or some similar and equally stupid remark.

Yeah, the part I don't understand is Tebow's party was his family.  Are there going to be federal diversity requirements for families now? (Shit, my siblings are all with white guys...) Are they going to start ragging on black players if their sister isn't banging a token white man?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 06:58 AM (mR7mk)

165

The problem with Beck, and I watch him routinely, is he leans toward the fantastic. It is residue of being on radio his whole life. Second nature to increase ratings.

I believe a lot of what he says but it now goes through a filter. When he says you don't want to miss this episode I think "he must want a ratings boost."

at least he's not as obvious as Oreilly who showed blurred porn everynight because he is looking out for the "folks". god i hate oreilly.  I get so pissed when the left says fox is a right wing network. i am a right winger and i hate 90 percent of what is on fox.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:59 AM (wuv1c)

166 But most of the Big L Libertarians I know or read about all advocate open borders..   That I don't get.

Not open borders, Dave. Just simplified and easier paths to legal immigration. I am 6'4", 250, and libertarian. I think I am qualified as a big L.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 06:59 AM (uFdnM)

167

Colts GM Bill Tobin

I just googled "who the hell is Mel Kiper".  There was a link to the video.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 06:59 AM (XdlcF)

168 looked like some kind of Nazi rally . . . So lily-white is what I’m trying to say. Yeah, Stepford Wives.”

Will this get this clown fired - probably not. Of course, imagien the outrage if Mr. Toetter had called a black draftee's party "a Crips reunion" or some similar and equally stupid remark.

Yeah, the part I don't understand is Tebow's party was his family.  Are there going to be federal diversity requirements for families now? (Shit, my siblings are all with white guys...) Are they going to start ragging on black players if their sister isn't banging a token white man?

it would be very interesting if his parents were white but one of his sibling was black. that would make for interesting speculation.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 06:59 AM (wuv1c)

169 “looked like some kind of Nazi rally . . . So lily-white is what I’m trying to say. Yeah, Stepford Wives.”

So speaking of this.  Did anyone else notice that the shots of the black athletes waiting to be drafted almost invariably showed a black family with one white person in the group?  Almost every time.  My husband and I thought it was hysterical.  Was that white person the agent? 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:02 AM (Kn9r7)

170 CNBC just said that the WS journal says that Toyota is recalling the 2003 Sequoia for stability problems...

Sheesh, are there any Toyotas that have not been recalled?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:02 AM (p302b)

171 See what I'm saying? The Republicans in D.C. are just as bad as the Democrats. "Were not blocking the bill. We just want to make the reforms better."

Posted by: Peter Potamus at April 28, 2010 07:02 AM (1HKg5)

172

@172

it sounds like you are describing anarchists not libertarians

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 07:02 AM (wuv1c)

173

Here's a snippet you guys might enjoy.

I hear Katie Couric"s "Notebook" on my radio, and before I switch to another station I here her little commentary, and found it to be hilarious.

The subject was "anonymous sources", and she starts off by acknowleging (practically celebrating) the case of Woodward and Bernstein. Then she gets into how various major media have all these big-deal standards in place to check the validity of claims by such sources (gee Katie, ever heard of Dan Rather? - That guy you replaced who was canned for not verifying his sources!?!), and then laments about how no such standards exist for blogging.

She sums up with a short sermon that basically said that anonymous sources should man-up and disclose who they are - to show that they're serious about standing by what they say, or something like that.  Which is hilarious for many reasons, but I thought it especially so because in the example she gave applauding Woodward and Bernstein, their main source stayed secret for something like 40 years - until he died. For good reason, I might add.

The other thing especially funny about it was how blatantly partisan it was, coming after the disclosure by an anonymous source that the Obama Administration kept important official info from the public in the closing days of the debate about the health care bill. These guys never cease to astound me, with how brazen (one might say "adacious"!) they are about it.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 28, 2010 07:02 AM (JC+x3)

174
here in bizarro world a pro-life athlete is apparently worse pr than ganstas shooting themselves in the leg.

See Miami Dolphins ownership, Rams and Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 07:02 AM (fx8sm)

175

CNBC just said that the WS journal says that Toyota is recalling the 2003 Sequoia for stability problems...

Sheesh, are there any Toyotas that have not been recalled?

Yes, Toyotas made in Japan. I bought a 2010 Rav 4. I just made sure it was built in japan. The models built in japan are fine, its the ones that were built here that are shit.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 07:03 AM (wuv1c)

176 That's nice they are burning the oil from the platform that caught fire.  wonder how much money BP will make on the insurance for the loss of the oil and wonder who owned the rig.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:04 AM (p302b)

177 Are hollow point bullets the best choice for a populated area or was he out in the woods somewhere?  Or maybe hollow points are a good choice -- do they self-destruct on impact, reducing how far they travel and ricochet?

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 10:32 AM (Kn9r7)

Few carryable pistols have the muzzle velocity to self destruct a hollow point bullet, and even those that do only do so at close range, as pistol bullets have poor ballistics and lose velocity quickly. They will ricochet off of a hard surface. They do make friable bullets that would be a good choice for populated areas, as they break up upon impact. One other thing, most hollow point pistol bullets require at least 800 FPS to expand appreciably, so if you don't have at least 850 fps from the muzzle, you are wasting money on hollow points.

As an aside, the .380 is pretty puny. Hollow Points are unlikely to expand on a soft target at .380 velocities. He made a good shot to put the Coyote down with just one. Brain, spine, or lungs. A heart shot would put him down quickly too.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2010 07:04 AM (OlN4e)

178

1952, 1967

1982 and 1997. The Puerto Rico question comes up every 15 years, and every 15 years:

--Most people there vote to leave things as they are, since not paying Federal Income tax is nice

--Some people vote for statehood, because they think it would be more beneficial

--A small minority of commies vote for independence.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 28, 2010 07:05 AM (ujg0T)

179

That's nice they are burning the oil from the platform that caught fire.  wonder how much money BP will make on the insurance for the loss of the oil and wonder who owned the rig.

i've always wondered why they don't just set the oil on fire from an oil spill. It is easier that corraling it with nets, right?

i've never heard a good answer.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 07:06 AM (wuv1c)

180 No, my mother is not a prostitute, but thank you for asking, sir.

Yikes.

Posted by: Dez Bryant at April 28, 2010 07:06 AM (8/DeP)

181

Sheesh, are there any Toyotas that have not been recalled?

Oh, that reminds me I'm going to take my Sienna in. Something about a possible problem if you lived where there was a lot of salt on the roads. Which was the case when we bought it.

"potential corrosion in the spare tire carrier cable"

Not getting terribly worked up about it.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 07:06 AM (XdlcF)

182 Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 11:06 AM (wuv1c)

I just said to a friend that I'm surprised that no one has invented a floating vacuum that would just vacuum it all up and then process the salt water out and they would be able to re use it.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:07 AM (p302b)

183
wonder how much money BP will make on the insurance for the loss of the oil and wonder who owned the rig

Really?  Wow you managed to get both of the targets in there, Big Oil and Big Insurance.  They really are out to stick it to us, ain't they?   It's so concerning...

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 07:08 AM (fx8sm)

184 CNBC updated their report to say that Toyota needs to update the stability control software.  Isn't stability control the thing that makes sure that the truck doesn't fall over when you make a turn?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:09 AM (p302b)

185

gee Katie, ever heard of Dan Rather? - That guy you replaced who was canned for not verifying his sources!?!

HA!!

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 07:09 AM (XdlcF)

186 195 No, my mother is not a prostitute, but thank you for asking, sir.

I caught a little bit of Mike & Mike this morning where they were discussing this.  I guess I've got thicker skin than Dez "doz," 'cause I didn't think that question was all that bad.  I think the question should have been "is your mom/immediate family involved in criminal activities" rather than the (apparently unfounded) prostitution charge, but otherwise I don't see the outrage.  As I understand it, this dude has had behavior/character issues in the recent past so they need to be careful. 

Mike Golic is kind of a big idiot. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:09 AM (Kn9r7)

187 wonder how much money BP will make on the insurance for the loss of the oil

Generally you don't make money from collecting insurance, especially in this case.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 07:09 AM (7VvJB)

188
No, my mother is not a prostitute, but thank you for asking, sir.

Jeff Ireland is a piece of shit.  Bryant has been accused of going off the handle, I'd say he handled that asshole asking that asshole-question pretty well.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 07:10 AM (fx8sm)

189 "198
wonder how much money BP will make on the insurance for the loss of the oil and wonder who owned the rig

Really?  Wow you managed to get both of the targets in there, Big Oil and Big Insurance.  They really are out to stick it to us, ain't they?   It's so concerning...

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 11:08 AM (fx8sm)"

I didn't even think of it that way, that they are "targets" but sheesh I guess you are right....

Wonder whether GS will eventually have to give AIG the money back and accept cents on the dollar, as part of a "settlement" or if AIG will eventually have to bring GS to court?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:11 AM (p302b)

190

wonder how much money BP will make on the insurance for the loss of the oil and wonder who owned the rig

BP has a terrible safety record. The largest fine ever issued by OSHA was against BP. I think it was 70+ million dollars and was related to the refinery explosion in 2005 that killed a bunch of people.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 07:11 AM (wuv1c)

191 Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 11:11 AM (wuv1c)

There are still about 11 people missing right?

Also, did you catch the fact that the 21 year old nephew of the Massey energy CEO was among the dead in the mining disaster.  Bet she wishes she addressed all those safety concerns cause it literally hit home.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:14 AM (p302b)

192 Does it strike anyone else as revealing that Obama has basically called people who disagree with him as illegitimate. Supreme Court or State government doesn't matter to him. He sees himself as a ruler. He never says "they are the legal representatives but I just disagree with them." No he implies it is illegitimate.

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at April 28, 2010 07:15 AM (tzcjs)

193
It was a Transocean rig, BP was just leasing it.   Gee you don't think all those plaintiff's attorneys are telling reporters about how evil, evil BP (who has the deepest pockets) caused all those deaths, do you?  Why would they ever do that, and why would the reporters go along?

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2010 07:16 AM (fx8sm)

194 No he implies it is illegitimate.

It takes one to know one. I will leave it up to the reader to infer to which type of illegitimacy I'm referring

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:17 AM (Kn9r7)

195 "France, Shaking In Its Culottes, Demands Immediate Implementation Of Bailout"
"Gee, what a shock - the country which is most on the hook should Greece blow up is now issuing ultimatums. "

I loved that headline....too funny

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:17 AM (p302b)

196 205

wonder how much money BP will make on the insurance for the loss of the oil and wonder who owned the rig

BP has a terrible safety record. The largest fine ever issued by OSHA was against BP. I think it was 70+ million dollars and was related to the refinery explosion in 2005 that killed a bunch of people.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 11:11 AM (wuv1c)

Note to self: never move near a refinery.

Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at April 28, 2010 07:18 AM (zqzYV)

197 How did Ace's twitter battle end last night?  Anyone follow it?  What got it started?

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:19 AM (Kn9r7)

198

"The worst is when he leans in real close to the microphone, speaks in a deep deep tone of voice, and makes long pauses to emphasize what he is saying."

YES.  The worst is when he's doing this while ad-libbing the "tie-in" for his sponsor that half-hour.  "Can you really afford the risk of the unknown?  Can you really?  Food Insurance, people...I hope to God I'm wrong on this..."

Last December, he did this while doing the ad for PajamaGram.  He was talking about the hand-sewn jammies his grandmother would give the family every Christmas, and then did the lean-in, deep-voice thing to sigh and say, "....what I wouldn't do for a pair of my grandmother's pajamas today..."

Then he snapped back to reality, and admitted that what he just said really didn't come out quite right.

Posted by: reason at April 28, 2010 07:19 AM (kZVsz)

199 Speechless.  Especially the videos.

Posted by: CUS at April 28, 2010 07:20 AM (wOGfT)

200 Not open borders, Dave. Just simplified and easier paths to legal immigration. I am 6'4", 250, and libertarian. I think I am qualified as a big L.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 10:59 AM (uFdnM)

Except for the fact that we have a welfare state.  I'm for stringent limits and astronomical qualifications on immigrants in light of the fact that we'll be supporting them for the rest of their lives if they don't work.  So no, no easy path to legal immigration.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 07:24 AM (1fanL)

201 I'm not into kids, but Sandra Bullock's baby is as cute as a button. 
http://tinyurl.com/32o2nuc

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:25 AM (Kn9r7)

202

"Alternative Endings

"Holy crap, George!  What is going on with Cliff's latest post "Wolf and the other Biltzers, the new War Season, a terrible choice" that begins "World War 3 is here..."  That particular email then went to some lengths pondering whether Cliff's taken to heavy drinking (no), or if there was maybe something else going on (yes).  While there isn't a lot of evidence, except a few places where molten glass from sand appears as evidence of ancient warfare, the anecdotal, written, and verbal traditions largely point in that direction."

Been meaning to post this...haven't read the wolf blitzer post but apparently among the ranks of those who hang on the every word of these web bot guys the post is causing quite a stir along with another post about a magic word or something. 

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:25 AM (p302b)

Posted by: huerfano at April 28, 2010 07:26 AM (oSrBX)

204 By the way on the puerto rico thing, I will be pissed if there is a new star added to flag, I like 50, its a nice round number and looks good, plus I would have to buy a new one, plus odumbass and the dems would probably change it to the hammer & sickle.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 07:26 AM (7VvJB)

205 My mother was a prostitute. She liked the hours and the tax advantages. She was a good woman except for that heroin habit.

As a result, most of my brothers and sisters have wide set eyes. They can see their ears.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 07:27 AM (uFdnM)

206 I don't believe immigration reform will pass. I would say 50-60 percent of american were against it in 2007 back when unemployment was 5 percent. With 10 percent of americans out of work, i doubt voters will be willing to let in 20 million more people who will undercut everyones wages.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 07:28 AM (wuv1c)

207

216 Sandra Bullock. Baby.

Wut?

Eh, at least she has something nice going on in her life right now.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 07:29 AM (doBlt)

208 By the way on the puerto rico thing, I will be pissed if there is a new star added to flag

I will be pissed if there are two new perpetually Democrat senators.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 07:29 AM (mR7mk)

209 Found it.  This is the post which has apparently prompted the web bot guy followers to begin to worry that the guy is going off the deep end.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:30 AM (p302b)

210 214 - I'll be in my bunk x-wing.

Posted by: reason at April 28, 2010 07:31 AM (kZVsz)

211 By the way on the puerto rico thing, I will be pissed if there is a new star added to flag, I like 50, its a nice round number and looks good, plus I would have to buy a new one, plus odumbass and the dems would probably change it to the hammer & sickle.

If we don't take the govt back from these idiots soon I hope they do add a star to the flag. That way I won't be honoring the change when I keep flying the 50 star flag.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 28, 2010 07:31 AM (tf9Ne)

212 I'm stuck in the most ungodly meting ever

Posted by: taylork at April 28, 2010 07:33 AM (4yrb2)

213 Beck plans to make a big deal about the PR thing on his show today.  He claimed this morning to have all kinds of what sounded like visual proof of a connection of this to everything he has been saying.  I miss his tv program a lot so I hope he gives a little session of summary before he jumps into this situation.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:33 AM (p302b)

214 it's been going on for 2.5 hours

Posted by: taylork at April 28, 2010 07:34 AM (4yrb2)

215

Eh, at least she has something nice going on in her life right now.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 11:29 AM (doBlt)

That's what you wimmins get for picking the bad boy.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 07:34 AM (1fanL)

216 All "sports journalists" are dopey leftists just like regular journalists.  They are perpetually insecure that they don't cover "real news" and will leap at the chance to show their left-wing credentials at any moment.  Tebow and his family are conservatives.  It follows then that they must be destroyed.

Posted by: mr crowley at April 28, 2010 07:34 AM (DlXP/)

217 Wasn't Beck mumbling something about "not allowing them to bail out the media" the other day.  Guess he meant sports too?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:35 AM (p302b)

218

Posted by: CUS at April 28, 2010 11:20 AM (wOGfT)

I'll be damned. I  looked at those video's, and the area seemed familiar. And then YEP!  It was filmed at Third and Fairfax, my old stomping grounds. You can see The Farmers Market across the street.

Thanks, CUS!

Posted by: HH at April 28, 2010 07:36 AM (6oDXl)

219

224 - STOP STEALING MY SCHTICK!

Posted by: DBOOTS, YOUTUBE POSTER EXTRAORDINAIRE! at April 28, 2010 07:37 AM (kZVsz)

220 126 For those of you enjoying Sunny, warm weather today, I envy you.  There is a raging blizzard going on outside right now.  And yes, I cranked up the hot tub last weekend.  In hindsight, a bad move on my part.

Posted by: conscious, but clearly incoherent at April 28, 2010 10:28 AM (YVZlY)

I don't see a problem. turn the tub on, get some beer, put it in the snowbank to keep it cold, and enjoy. It's how we used to enjoy the winters up north.

Posted by: todler at April 28, 2010 07:37 AM (fPOY0)

221 Big L Libertarians have the same problem that the Republican Party does. A few assholes have destroyed the Party brand. This is why I have been opposed to supporting RINOs in the primaries and in some case, even in the general election.

Yes there are some nutcases in the Libertarian Party who want to eliminate all government functions, but they are not really Libertarians, they are anarchists.

Right now, my biggest problem with libertarians is the call to bring ALL U.S. troops home and go back to a pre-WWII military.   That policy is no longer possible in this day and age and was damn near disasterous at the start of WWII.

I can support decriminalizing drugs as long as there were parallel law changes to eliminate the welfare State and make unemployment benefits dependent on being drug free. 

And yes, in local cases, I could see eliminating government's ability to establish "parks".  This ability has been much abused here in my locality and it does have an element of socialism in it.

As for the overall Federal Government what I would really support is elimination of EVERY federal law, regulation, and department that is not specifically spelled out in Section 1, part 8 of the Constitution.

That is what really needs to happen.  That would make the "L's" happy because it would eliminate all federal drug laws and leave it up to the States.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 07:37 AM (QrA9E)

222 Except for the fact that we have a welfare state.  I'm for stringent limits and astronomical qualifications on immigrants in light of the fact that we'll be supporting them for the rest of their lives if they don't work.  So no, no easy path to legal immigration.

FUBAR...you are preaching to the choir. I am talking about pathways to orderly and legal immigration as it existed in the 50's and 60's via places like Ellis Island. Like all countries generally espouse. The 30 million or so illegals now here are a separate issue entirely. That ship left the harbor and I don't know of any Libertarian belief anywhere that says granting that subset of dwellers amnesty or citizenship for no other reason than they are already here-is ok.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 07:38 AM (uFdnM)

223

That's what you wimmins get for picking the bad boy.

Well...

Those of us w/a functioning brain cell or two know that any guy with that many tats that was married to a porn start is probably a risky investment.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 07:38 AM (doBlt)

224 Vic I could swear yesterday that I heard Lyndsey Graham say "myself and the other democrats"  I posted it and someone here posted a transcript that he did indeed say it.  Guess he is deciding to finally tell the truth?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:38 AM (p302b)

225 You racists!

Posted by: Geraldo at April 28, 2010 07:39 AM (EL+OC)

226 Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 11:38 AM (doBlt)

And he's not really good looking and it isn't a cerebral thing so I still don't understand why she went with him.  Maybe it is the "let me fix the train wreck, here's a nice little project" thing....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:40 AM (p302b)

227

"That's what you wimmins get for picking the bad boy."

It's nice to see that I wasn't the only dweeb in high school that, after getting dumped by a chick we knew was out of our league, would retaliate by shouting "Someday I'll be a good provider!" and then slamming down the phone.

Posted by: reason, who actually did turn out to be a good provider at April 28, 2010 07:40 AM (kZVsz)

228 Beck just said that they got a couple of statements from congressmen/women today and they are for the most part saying "but it is not binding" and Beck says to ask them about the PR progressive party item to be included on the ballot.  He is busy saying "these people in Washington are clueless" and he is saying "this is not conspiracy theory, this is fact".

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:41 AM (p302b)

229 make it stop. make the meeting stop.

Posted by: taylork at April 28, 2010 07:42 AM (4yrb2)

230 Vic I could swear yesterday that I heard Lyndsey Graham say "myself and the other democrats"  I posted it and someone here posted a transcript that he did indeed say it.  Guess he is deciding to finally tell the truth?

Yes, it is all over the nets now. I made use of that in my first post this morning. He is a DIABLO.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 07:43 AM (QrA9E)

231 "245 make it stop. make the meeting stop.

Posted by: taylork at April 28, 2010 11:42 AM (4yrb2)"

I'm so sorry that you have been captured by the "I like to hear myself talk cause I am so great" group....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:43 AM (p302b)

232 San Francisco banns city workers from travel to Arizona.  The Board of Supervisors also wants to boycott all business with Arizona.

There was no mention of accepting Arizona illegal immigrant refugees.


Posted by: SlaveDog at April 28, 2010 07:43 AM (H6Jyg)

233 Next they're gonna ban play areas in McDonald's. And the colorful decor. And Ronald McDonald. Everything will have to be dark brown and black, with Wagner operas playing on a loop. For the children!

Oh, and no more drive throughs or on-site parking for fast food restaurants either.  All McDonald's parking lots will have to be located no less than 1/2 mile from the restaurant and no food shall be sold until the customer has shown a slip proving that their vehicle is at that parking lot and that they walked from the lot to the store.

Posted by: Deety at April 28, 2010 07:44 AM (aVzyR)

234

"Maybe it is the "let me fix the train wreck, here's a nice little project" thing...."

T:  GIRLS.  If you ever pine for a guy and wonder to yourself, "...can any heart ever tame him?"  The answer is NO.

Posted by: reason, who actually did turn out to be a good provider at April 28, 2010 07:44 AM (kZVsz)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 28, 2010 07:44 AM (doBlt)

236 245 make it stop. make the meeting stop.

After being unemployed for so long, I'd love to sit in a boring meeting.

In any event, try my high school pal's old trick.  Pretend to get a nose bleed and dash out of the room.  That'll buy you a 15 minute bathroom break. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:44 AM (Kn9r7)

237

make it stop. make the meeting stop.

So what's the meeting about? And look like you are really serious when you type your reply. 

That always helps...

Posted by: HH at April 28, 2010 07:45 AM (6oDXl)

238 249 Next they're gonna ban play areas in McDonald's. And the colorful decor. And Ronald McDonald. Everything will have to be dark brown and black, with Wagner operas playing on a loop. For the children!

Then they will make it taste bad
Oh, wait they already are doing that. first no real fat, then no trans fat, coming soon no salt, ....

Posted by: nine coconuts at April 28, 2010 07:46 AM (DHNp4)

239

"make it stop. make the meeting stop."

Actually saying this in the meeting usually makes it stop.  Along with your career.

I would suggest flatus.

Or, if you don't have any on tap, at least making loud farting noises with your lips against the bend of your elbow.

Posted by: reason, who actually did turn out to be a good provider at April 28, 2010 07:47 AM (kZVsz)

240 Was in a meeting last week where one of the head honchos started snoring....

It was too funny and the speaker realized he was too boring...

funny part...the snorer is the reviewer for the speaker.....

there is a God...

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:47 AM (p302b)

241 And he's not really good looking and it isn't a cerebral thing so I still don't understand why she went with him.  Maybe it is the "let me fix the train wreck, here's a nice little project" thing....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 11:40 AM (p302b)

Or maybe he's just hung like a horse...

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 28, 2010 07:47 AM (OtQXp)

242 "Oh, wait they already are doing that. first no real fat, then no trans fat, coming soon no salt, ....

Posted by: nine coconuts at April 28, 2010 11:46 AM (DHNp4)"

A friend of mine who is in cooking school quite seriously said "well they are doing this so the chy knees can't season the cardboard so much that we can't tell that it is cardboard"....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:48 AM (p302b)

243 Vic...the problem has been and always will be government. That they have divided and conquered us is good strategy. And it has worked. The two parties spend otherwise useful time- calling each other names and arguing. And all the while, government picks our pockets and smiles with glee.

Libertarians recognize this and want government the fuck out of our lives. At least to the extent that they have a limited role and quit usurping the power of states to regulate themselves. And like any party, nobody agrees 100% with everything a party does. But I agree with 90%. I don't smoke weed but if you want to, I think you should have that right. I don't have the inclination to argue military strategy. That is a whole separate can of whoop ass...better left unopened.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 07:48 AM (uFdnM)

244 I'm so sorry that you have been captured by the "I like to hear myself talk cause I am so great" group....

I used to call that phenomena the "fire hydrant symptom". We would have these meetings with all the group heads while discussing the "pros and cons" of a solution to some problem (or non-problem) and every damn one of them would have some issue to raise with the proposed solution that a team had spent months coming up with.

Most of the issues were absolute BS but they had to be debated or tabled for a later meeting where the original team would address them. The only objective of raising the "issues" was for the group leaders to make it look like they were actually knowledgeable and involved in a vain effort to improve their "promoteablity" .

I used to hate those meetings and I would avoid them with a passion. 

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 07:49 AM (QrA9E)

245 Sandra Bullock. Baby.

Have the usual suspects started their bleating about how it's wrong for a rich woman with her pigmentation to wrench a baby with that pigmentation from his "culture" and give him all kinds of advantages his teenage mother in the Section 8 housing can't?

My compliments to the birth mother.  That's gotta be a really hard choice.  Especially in a culture that emphasizes abortion and welfare as the most acceptable options.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 07:50 AM (mR7mk)

246 "257 And he's not really good looking and it isn't a cerebral thing so I still don't understand why she went with him.  Maybe it is the "let me fix the train wreck, here's a nice little project" thing....

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 11:40 AM (p302b)

Or maybe he's just hung like a horse...

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 28, 2010 11:47 AM (OtQXp)"

some guys have the right equipment but have no idea how to use it.....


but that was a funny response...

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:50 AM (p302b)

247 I was in PR a couple of years ago.  There were Independance protesters in San Juan...I believe it is a rather strong movement there.  Also, they generally don't speak English and consider themselves more Spanish than American...Spain ruled there for four hundred years...The Republican postition should be to give them independance.  They get welfare and social security yet pay no Federal Tax.  Clinton closed the bombing range there for the Navy and the Navy subsequently closed Roosevelt Roads Naval Air Station...Why keep it???

Posted by: Nozzle at April 28, 2010 07:52 AM (TDKIg)

248 For taylork.
http://tinyurl.com/2fzsgqn

What is with the link button today?  Jeez louise. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:52 AM (Kn9r7)

249

Lunatic Fringe, are you a member of the (big L) Libertarian Party? The platform states "Economic freedom freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders.  However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a threat to security, health or property." It's silent on naturalization, for obvious reasons. I was a big-L county chairman in 1973. Smilin' Ray "How You Can Profit from The Coming Cholera Epidemic" Browne finally run me offt. He made my "l" get small.

Y-not, have you considered the possibility that you are not a conservative?  Seriously.

Maddog, a Sam Houston dollar says that was a "Texas heart shot." Also a sure stopper, but skin them before the warden shows up.

Posted by: comatus at April 28, 2010 07:53 AM (/VEEI)

250 Years ago I worked in a place that took a novel approach to keeping meetings from getting too big and going on too long- they removed all the chairs from the conference room.

It worked!

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 28, 2010 07:53 AM (OtQXp)

251 That way I won't be honoring the change when I keep flying the 50 star flag.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 28, 2010 11:31 AM (tf9Ne)

 

I have a very nice 43 star flag that I bring out on certain occasions.  It is huge.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at April 28, 2010 07:53 AM (JSetw)

252 The two parties spend otherwise useful time- calling each other names and arguing. And all the while, government picks our pockets and smiles with glee.

That is why I am now of the view that we shouldn't try to label Republicans anymore as to whether or not they are conservative because nobody can agree to what conservative means.

We should label them as "small government" Republican or "not-small government".

Note that you don't have that problem with Democrats. They are ALL communists. Before the 70s you could split them into two groups. Communists who believed in defense and communists who believed in surrendering. Now you don't even need to do that. They are ALL communists who hate the military and believe in surrendering.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 07:54 AM (QrA9E)

253 Most of the issues were absolute BS but they had to be debated or tabled for a later meeting where the original team would address them. The only objective of raising the "issues" was for the group leaders to make it look like they were actually knowledgeable and involved in a vain effort to improve their "promoteablity" .

I used to hate those meetings and I would avoid them with a passion.

Jeebus Vic. I like you a lot. That is so fucking true. I am glad I left that world behind. Let the kids have a taste.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 07:54 AM (uFdnM)

254 Posted by: Johnnyreb at April 28, 2010 11:53 AM (JSetw)

A lady down the street from my parents is flying the original flag and my parents are saying that she is making everyone very uncomfortable.   It's a big dem/lib neighborhood and they are trying to find legal ways to have her take it down. 

Rumor has it though that she is a retired judge...lol

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:55 AM (p302b)

255 I like to add up the cost of the meeting, estimating the salaries of participants, etc. Gives me a sense of the true value of the meeting. It is usually an inverse relationship.

Posted by: Jean at April 28, 2010 07:56 AM (tJF9l)

256 Do it yourself Robot Theatre.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 28, 2010 07:56 AM (I1/U/)

257

Or those 401k meeting that treat you like you're a child; Why do people set money aside?

You wouldn't believe how dumb people can be regarding 401k participation, particularly regarding diversification.  I've known a number of people who are otherwise reasonably intelligent place their entire contribution in company stock and have subsequently lost their asses on it.  I have no idea what drives such idiocy unless they mindlessly believe that it helps them save their jobs.

I used to have conversations with a pretty smart finance guy who used to anguish about the fiduciary responsibilites of this; I always told him that you can't stop people from being idiots.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 28, 2010 07:57 AM (V5s1P)

258 I hate meetings....they are always so useless and all they do is waste time.  Lately I've been chatting with people in spurts and before I know it I've disseminated the info i had to get out and taken in the information I had to take in and I can send out a summary email to all involved and call it.

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 07:57 AM (p302b)

259 Jeebus Vic. I like you a lot. That is so fucking true. I am glad I left that world behind. Let the kids have a taste.

Thanks, I forgot to say why I called it the fire hydrant syndrome.  That was because every dog had to piss on it to leave their mark.   

And yes, I have left that world far behind now. Being retired is the best job I ever had. I am just praying the commies in charge now don't destroy that.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 07:58 AM (QrA9E)

260

Our corporate diversity training generally consists of "self-paced instruction," watching flash videos and occassionally clicking on stuff to show you're still awake.  I can't complain.  They've made it as painless as possible.

A previous organization I used to work for had weekly staff meetings.  At 1:00pm.  In a just-barely-too-small conference room.  Big, warm room full of people talking about stuff I don't care that much about immediately after lunch.  Recipe for disaster.  I'd try to sit immediately behind my boss, so he wouldn't see me drop off.  I knew I'd get a good solid 30 minutes of snooze whenever we got to one guy; he'd go over pretty much everything he did that week, in great detail.  And he was an obsessive workaholic.  Zzzz...

Posted by: reason at April 28, 2010 07:58 AM (5npD/)

261 "Grandpa, there's only 49 stars on this flag!"
"I'll be dead in the cold cold ground a-fore I recognize Missourah!"

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 07:58 AM (mR7mk)

262 Puerto Rico, the 58th state baby !!!

Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at April 28, 2010 07:58 AM (EL+OC)

263 @266
Because I believe in obeying laws, the criminal justice system, and public parks? 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 07:59 AM (Kn9r7)

264 San Francisco banns city workers from travel to Arizona.  The Board of Supervisors also wants to boycott all business with Arizona.

There goes the San Francisco Giants and Spring Training in Scottsdale.

Posted by: CUS at April 28, 2010 08:00 AM (wOGfT)

265 Obama Denies Individual Aid for Storm Relief--

Brings to mind Obama chiding donors to charity for wanting a tax credit for their contributions, as if doing the right thing wasn't enough reason to do the right thing. Obviously, supporting charity is no more the right thing to do in Obama's book than protecting American citizens, whether aiding after devastating storms with FEMA or stationing the National Guard on the Border to enforce the Border Patrol and national security from illegal and criminal alien onslaught. All the while, Obama talks about "saving money". I hope these folks had insurance.

Posted by: maverick muse at April 28, 2010 08:00 AM (H+LJc)

266 Oh how I dearly wished gummint hadn't fucked up so much already. It's almost an unstoppable train. Like healthcare. Once that shit leaves the gun, it is virtually impossible to retrieve the bullet. Our free trade problems are one of those bullets, Comatus. A whole new can of whoop ass I don't dare open here.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 08:01 AM (uFdnM)

267 Has this blog or whatever shut down?

Posted by: Dave at April 28, 2010 08:02 AM (Xm1aB)

268 There goes the San Francisco Giants and Spring Training in Scottsdale.

And now the Dodgers as well.

But they aren't public employees.

Arizona's Facebook page (the tourism one) is being inundated with asshats asking what travel documents they need to visit AZ.  I guess they are unfamiliar with the U.S. code governing what aliens must carry. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2010 08:02 AM (Kn9r7)

269

"Thanks, I forgot to say why I called it the fire hydrant syndrome.  That was because every dog had to piss on it to leave their mark."

If I promise to actually use this in the next meeting it applies to, can I steal this?

Posted by: reason at April 28, 2010 08:03 AM (5npD/)

270 San Francisco banns city workers from travel to Arizona.  The Board of Supervisors also wants to boycott all business with Arizona.

Good riddance, and on with the boycott of all things San Franciscan and  Californication. THEY ARE BROKE ANYWAY. NO SYMPATHY!

Posted by: maverick muse at April 28, 2010 08:03 AM (H+LJc)

271 S & P just downgraded Spain.  Raaaaacists!


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 28, 2010 08:03 AM (7VvJB)

272 If I promise to actually use this in the next meeting it applies to, can I steal this?

LOL, feel free to.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 08:04 AM (QrA9E)

273 278 "Grandpa, there's only 49 stars on this flag!"
"I'll be dead in the cold cold ground a-fore I recognize Missourah!"

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 11:58 AM (mR7mk)

 

Where did you think my 43 star flag came from? 

Posted by: Johnnyreb at April 28, 2010 08:05 AM (cqZXM)

274 Spain downgraded.  Era of fiat currencies coming to an end.

The President shanks one into the right rough.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 28, 2010 08:05 AM (AvjJ9)

275 Do IT! Gotta jet morons...have a good day.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 28, 2010 08:05 AM (uFdnM)

276

"The Board of Supervisors also wants to boycott all business with Arizona."

Sculptors of sun-dried frogs glued to driftwood wearing sombreros and playing trumpets hardest hit.  But not really hit that hard at all.

Posted by: reason at April 28, 2010 08:07 AM (5npD/)

277

new post?

 

This blog really isn't a place for morning people.

Posted by: mr crowley at April 28, 2010 08:07 AM (DlXP/)

278

San Francisco banns city workers from travel to Arizona.  The Board of Supervisors also wants to boycott all business with Arizona.

Do those simpleton fuckheads realize what a slap in the face that is to that poor woman who had her husband and son killed because of what their cocksucker mayor and fudgepacking city council did on making their shithole a "sanctuary city"?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 28, 2010 08:07 AM (V5s1P)

279 California stole Arizona's apportionment of the Colorado River. Time to cut off their diversionary pipeline as AZ has its own rights.

Posted by: maverick muse at April 28, 2010 08:07 AM (H+LJc)

280

Got to watch part of the Today Show. Meredith and Matt were going ShamWow over how the GS guys were getting "grilled" for 11 hours. Shit, who wouldn't be grilled in return for an earlier take down of your main competitors, proposed barriers to entry and a $50 billion [now] slush fund?

It got worse. One of the Collins/Snowe persons was on and when Matt asked why Rs opposed debate if they wanted reform, saying isn't it "schizophrenic." She gave the blah-blah. A sharper tool might have said "No, Matt, what's schizophrenic is the Ds proposing a bill that is supposed to reform Wall Street. They are so sure it's going to work that they've included a $50 Billion bailout fund. Matt that's schizophrenic and a whole lot more."

These NBC geniuses also haven't asked the question, "Why, Senator Lenin, were there so many sub-prime mortgages for GS to screw people with?"

 

Posted by: Mr. Barky at April 28, 2010 08:08 AM (qwK3S)

281

By the way on the puerto rico thing, I will be pissed if there is a new star added to flag

To quote Grandpa Simpson, "I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah" as a state.

Personally i hope they vote for independence. Why the hell are they a territory any way? I always thought American terrorities were supposed to benefit America, not the other way around. We need to start cutting some of these "countries" off the dole. Let them fend for themselves.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 08:09 AM (wuv1c)

282 Sculptors of sun-dried frogs glued to driftwood wearing sombreros and playing trumpets hardest hit.

And that, folks, is how you do that.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 28, 2010 08:09 AM (AvjJ9)

283 This blog really isn't a place for morning people.

Ain't that the truth

Posted by: First? at April 28, 2010 08:10 AM (V8B//)

284

The worst meetings I used to have to sit through were the ones where us middle mgmt types would debate what our company's priorities should be for the upcoming quarter.

It was always decided by the executives. And yet every quarter we were supposed to spend a bunch of time working on it. People were so caught up in it being a serious, important question, that they didn't notice their opinions never mattered.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 08:10 AM (XdlcF)

285

"Where did you think my 43 star flag came from?"

The Texas flag has all the right colors, and a pretty good number of stars.

I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: reason at April 28, 2010 08:10 AM (5npD/)

286 She gave the blah-blah.

You can BET the MSM will NEVER have anyone on there representing actual small government Republicans who will attack the Dems and their commie policies.  Not even Fox will do that in their "fair and balanced" debates.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 08:12 AM (QrA9E)

287

Vic, you and other retired folks make me want to cry.

It's not just meetings. We have this asinine system where we're supposed to list everything we're currently working on, planning to work on in the future and how much time we plan to spend vs. how much we actually spend.

It's so freaking cumbersome that I could spend half of each day fooling with the stupid thing rather than actually doing something productive.

The company makes staffing decisons off this POS too.

I really wish I'd invested smartly back in my 20's. I probably will have to die working thanks to the statists.

Posted by: Scott J. at April 28, 2010 08:12 AM (NY7mQ)

288 I already turned down a very good job in San Francisco 7 years ago because I refused to live in that shithole. I am going to start boycotting any products made their now. Screw em.

Posted by: robtr at April 28, 2010 08:12 AM (fwSHf)

289

It was always decided by the executives. And yet every quarter we were supposed to spend a bunch of time working on it. People were so caught up in it being a serious, important question, that they didn't notice their opinions never mattered.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 28, 2010 12:10 PM (XdlcF)

Ahhhhhh, the old "empowerment" dog and pony show.  A nice little cottage industry sprung up on spreading that crock.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 28, 2010 08:12 AM (V5s1P)

290 asshats asking what travel documents they need to visit AZ.

I saw a photo of some pinko teenager waving a "Steve Nash, your papers please" sign.  Apparently no one who opposes the bill is familiar with the actual contents of it. 

I'm still stuck on the juxtaposition of the kid beating on the Janet Brewer pinata next to the "Stop Hate, Educate" signs.  Maybe they got the punctuation wrong.  "Stop, Hate, Educate" or "Stop.  Hate Educate."

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 08:13 AM (mR7mk)

291

"These NBC geniuses also haven't asked the question, "Why, Senator Lenin, were there so many sub-prime mortgages for GS to screw people with?"

 

Posted by: Mr. Barky at April 28, 2010 12:08 PM (qwK3S)"

You don't actually expect them to ask something that isn't in the script that came fed ex from DC do you?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 08:14 AM (p302b)

292

shit

Heather you beat me too it. I was typing it.

I see you are as big a simpsons fan as myself.

 

Question.

What simpsons character claims to have invented wearing jeans with sports coats?

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 08:14 AM (wuv1c)

293 And now a Texas legislator wants to adopt Arizona's Immigration Law.

Is Obama going to take on the border states?  He's gonna have to make a lot of speeches before this is over.

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 28, 2010 08:14 AM (H6Jyg)

294 It is simply amazing how much time corporate America wastes on meetings. Especially when 90% of them are a colossal waste of time.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 08:15 AM (QrA9E)

295 Do those simpleton fuckheads realize what a slap in the face that is to that poor woman who had her husband and son killed because of what their cocksucker mayor and fudgepacking city council did on making their shithole a "sanctuary city"?

Do you think they care?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 08:16 AM (mR7mk)

296 rush started out playing a clip of BO saying "if you don't have your papers you are going to be harassed"....sound like another gates moment....Rush says it is anti cop.....wonder how many will come this time for beer?

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 08:16 AM (p302b)

297

Libraries, helping the most unfortunate, putting people back on track, and all the things government does at the direction of their citizens.

That's it. That's statism, but it's "compassionate." Now get huffy.

Posted by: comatus at April 28, 2010 08:18 AM (/VEEI)

298 What simpsons character claims to have invented wearing jeans with sports coats?

Crap.  Troy McClure?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 08:18 AM (mR7mk)

299 I really wish I'd invested smartly back in my 20's. I probably will have to die working thanks to the statists.

LOL, not only that but divorces effect that as well since the latest craze of the lawyers is to go after your retirement now AND your 401K.

I had a co-worker in my group who had been divorced three times, each time the ex getting the house, half his assets and half his retirement.  He will never be able to retire. 

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 08:18 AM (QrA9E)

300 Rush just made a point I made on a thread yesterday re people asking to see your ID in a whole lot of places. Someone said to me that private companies can ask you for any form of ID they want for that job and was arguing against what I said.

I just remembered that they ask you for two forms of ID to verify you can legally work in the state/country. So they're not asking because they're a "private company" they're asking because they're required by law.

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess at April 28, 2010 08:20 AM (gofDd)

301 I had a co-worker in my group who had been divorced three times, each time the ex getting the house, half his assets and half his retirement.

Is that 1.5 retirements, or does each ex get half of what's left?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 08:20 AM (mR7mk)

302 Do you think they care?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 12:16 PM (mR7mk)

Obviously not but it's too bad that their political existence hinges on having an electorate that's either too fucking stupid to see what the consequences of their idiotic policies are or just doesn't care.  Or both.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 28, 2010 08:21 AM (V5s1P)

303 I just remembered that they ask you for two forms of ID to verify you can legally work in the state/country. So they're not asking because they're a "private company" they're asking because they're required by law.

If one of those documents is a U.S. issued passport stating you were born here, that's the only document you need to submit to work.  I had quite a go-around with my staffing agency last year on that one. Ultimately I won, because I was right. :-D

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 08:22 AM (mR7mk)

304

I just remembered that they ask you for two forms of ID to verify you can legally work in the state/country. So they're not asking because they're a "private company" they're asking because they're required by law.

Yeah its called an I-9 form. You as an employer are required to ask for 2 forms of identification. There is a long list including common stuff like Birth certificate, SS Card, Drivers ID and less common stuff like your Indian Tribal card or something like that.

The person hiring has to sign the I-9 stating he has seen the documents and they are legit.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 08:23 AM (wuv1c)

305

What simpsons character claims to have invented wearing jeans with sports coats?

Crap.  Troy McClure?

Frank Scorpio. Easily one of the best one episode characters ever on the simpsons.

Posted by: Ben at April 28, 2010 08:25 AM (wuv1c)

306 Hank Scorpio.  Frank Grimes.  

Heh heh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 28, 2010 08:26 AM (mR7mk)

307

Yeah its called an I-9 form. You as an employer are required to ask for 2 forms of identification. There is a long list including common stuff like Birth certificate, SS Card, Drivers ID and less common stuff like your Indian Tribal card or something like that.

The person hiring has to sign the I-9 stating he has seen the documents and they are legit.

 

FASCISM!!!!  NAZI!!!!!  FASCIST NAZI!!!!!  NAZI FASCIST!!!!!!!

Posted by: typical libtard idjit at April 28, 2010 08:26 AM (pTyL2)

308 The person hiring has to sign the I-9 stating he has seen the documents and they are legit.

Yep. So I was right and the other commenter was wrong. Vindication!

And LA is can FOADIAF boycotting AZ. What a bunch of fucktards. I hate my city.

Posted by: Rum, Bitch Goddess at April 28, 2010 08:29 AM (gofDd)

309 Is that 1.5 retirements, or does each ex get half of what's left?

My understanding was that they were withdrawing half his retirement fund (cash balance) and half his 401K fund each time.

His balance would have been approaching zero on an asymptotic (sp) curve.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 08:29 AM (QrA9E)

310

local breaking news:

Crist will run as an Independent.

The son-of-a-bitch.

Posted by: jmflynny at April 28, 2010 08:31 AM (LyOUH)

311

"FOADIAF"

Your code for violent rhetoric cannot escape my all-seeing gaze!

Posted by: Frau Palomino at April 28, 2010 08:32 AM (q/kmn)

312

"“The Hill” headlines that Goldman boss Lloyd “Blankein supports financial reform legislation.“  I have this theory that if big banksters are for a piece of ‘financial legislation (like bailouts before it) we oughta run as fast as possible the other wayÂ…corporate feudalism ainÂ’t what the Founders had in mind, I donÂ’t believe.

 

A friend calls it DEAFicits."

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 08:32 AM (p302b)

313

If one of those documents is a U.S. issued passport stating you were born here, that's the only document you need to submit to work.

When I got my passport photo, they asked me if I wanted B/W or Color.

I was hung-over that morning, and replied B/W. For some reason it was in my mind that a color pic would take longer...

Man, I need to get that thing renewed...

Posted by: HH at April 28, 2010 08:33 AM (6oDXl)

314 How biased and screwed up is Politico. Try this headline:

Why reporters are down on Obama

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 08:34 AM (QrA9E)

315 If SF has cut off ties to Arizona, will this impace the 49'ers and Giants when they go there to play games?

Posted by: CDR M at April 28, 2010 08:36 AM (BuYeH)

316 Why reporters are going down on Obama.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 12:34 PM (QrA9E)

There.  I fixed the headline for them.

Posted by: CDR M at April 28, 2010 08:37 AM (JSetw)

317 "Bild.de has broke the news of German police raids of Deutsche Bank and fifty other financial firms over tax-evasion charges.

More to come..."



Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 08:45 AM (p302b)

318 Oh my....

"Harvard Law School 3LÂ’s Racist Email Goes National
Â… I just hate leaving things where I feel I misstated my position.

I absolutely do not rule out the possibility that African Americans are, on average, genetically predisposed to be less intelligent. I could also obviously be convinced that by controlling for the right variables, we would see that they are, in fact, as intelligent as white people under the same circumstances. The fact is, some things are genetic. African Americans tend to have darker skin. Irish people are more likely to have red hair. (Now on to the more controversial Women tend to perform less well in math due at least in part to prenatal levels of testosterone, which also account for variations in mathematics performance within genders. This suggests to me that some part of intelligence is genetic, just like identical twins raised apart tend to have very similar IQs and just like I think my babies will be geniuses and beautiful individuals whether I raise them or give them to an orphanage in Nigeria. I donÂ’t think it is that controversial of an opinion to say I think it is at least possible that African Americans are less intelligent on a genetic level, and I didnÂ’t mean to shy away from that opinion at dinner."

It goes on and has created quite a stir....

those who posted it prefaced it with this:  "Every time you put something into an email, please remember that someone you send it to may hit Forward. If your email makes the case for a biological reason for racial disparities in intelligence, someone might hit Forward and send it to Black Law Student Associations across the nation."

Posted by: curious at April 28, 2010 08:54 AM (p302b)

319 Spain downgraded.  Era of fiat currencies coming to an end.

The President shanks one into the right rough.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 28, 2010 12:05 PM (AvjJ9)

Heh.  President Gets Up and Down, World Economy Crashes.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 28, 2010 09:07 AM (1fanL)

320

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 12:34 PM (QrA9E)

So I read that article. Funny thing is, nothing is said about the press being criticle to the Prez. But if the WH seems to think that the press isn't being in lock-step with them, then they shut the reporters out.

Which is where the outrage (such as it is), starts.

Nowhere in the article does it even mention that a reporter may have come down on the WH, or even ask questions that could embarrass Obama and gang. No, they are just bitching that they haven't had 'access'.

What a bunch of tools.

Posted by: HH at April 28, 2010 09:09 AM (6oDXl)

321 > ... That is why I am now of the view that we shouldn't try to label Republicans anymore as to whether or not they are conservative because nobody can agree to what conservative means. We should label them as "small government" Republican or "not-small government". Posted by: Vic Try limited instead of small. Works better.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 28, 2010 09:15 AM (Xt974)

322 15 kids and 3 fathers?  The author of that story, Keith Morelli, is a lazy ass worthless hack of a reporter.  How hard would it have been for him to find someone else with 15 kids by 10 or more fathers?  Are we to believe that his J-degree makes him the ultimate authority on what the optimum child to father ratio is for the story to be most interesting?  Personally I like prime numbers better, 13 kids by 11 fathers has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: John Galt at April 28, 2010 09:21 AM (F/4zf)

323 327 Is that 1.5 retirements, or does each ex get half of what's left?

My understanding was that they were withdrawing half his retirement fund (cash balance) and half his 401K fund each time.

His balance would have been approaching zero on an asymptotic (sp) curve.

Well, speaking from very recent experience, they are entitled only to half of retirement/401K funds accumulated during the marriage, not half of the entire balance (which when you think about it, turned my marriage into the equivalent of a long-term relationship with a prostitute.) So any balance in the accounts before the marriage are yours to keep.

Now, the market crisis caused by the f*tards in Congress did manage to take half of my 401K, without even the benefit of reach around...

Posted by: goozer at April 28, 2010 10:01 AM (dufK4)

324 Well, speaking from very recent experience, they are entitled only to half of retirement/401K funds accumulated during the marriage, not half of the entire balance (which when you think about it, turned my marriage into the equivalent of a long-term relationship with a prostitute.)

I think it depends on the State. My understanding was they were getting half of what was there at the time of the divorce. I may be wrong though because I was getting that from him and wasn't personally involved.

Posted by: Vic at April 28, 2010 10:06 AM (QrA9E)

325 RedState's troll diaries. This one railing against "teabaggers" is a howler.

It's getting tougher and tougher to tell the troll diaries on LGF 2.0 from the real ones. Erickson himself came out a couple weeks ago and told everyone that the tea parties are a waste of time and that he's dropping them.

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