July 09, 2010

Top Headline Comments 7-9-10
— Gabriel Malor

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 05:37 AM | Comments (179)
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1

Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you...

http://tinyurl.com/2gxv8y2

literally.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 09, 2010 05:38 AM (RkRxq)

2 Geez, Gabe, no need to be so wordy. Some of us got work to do ...

Posted by: Joanna at July 09, 2010 05:41 AM (HaYO4)

Posted by: andycanuck at July 09, 2010 05:41 AM (7b1Uc)

4 Unemployment is so high because of Obama's middle name.

Posted by: Mr Pink at July 09, 2010 05:42 AM (GUdli)

5 FYI, lawnmowers are considered "motor vehicles" in Iowa.

I've no problem with arresting a drunk guy creating a hazard on a public road, but the part at the end where the sheriff says he can come arrest you for motor vehicle crimes if you're mowing your own front lawn scares me.  And I know the point of the law isn't to keep 13-year-olds (can't legally drive in Iowa) from doing yard work, it's to criminalize alcohol consumption, even in your own home.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 09, 2010 05:42 AM (M9BNu)

6 Happy Friday. Is Oakland burning yet?

Posted by: maddogg at July 09, 2010 05:42 AM (OlN4e)

8

I'm putting the link in here so you can check it out if you want. 

Follow the Daily Kos logic here, it is literally mind blowing:

http://tinyurl.com/35o5dmk

In other words, leftist, statist, idiot, enemies of democracy should love the constitution because -

when people who actually believe in the constitution begin to insist that the constitution be followed, it riles the enemies of the constitution and makes them more powerful.

Commie f--kheads of the world unite!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 09, 2010 05:44 AM (RkRxq)

9

I've no problem with arresting a drunk guy creating a hazard on a public road, but the part at the end where the sheriff says he can come arrest you for motor vehicle crimes if you're mowing your own front lawn scares me.  And I know the point of the law isn't to keep 13-year-olds (can't legally drive in Iowa) from doing yard work, it's to criminalize alcohol consumption, even in your own home.

Screw 'em, I have developed the same respect for laws the Zero Justice Department has, none.

Posted by: maddogg at July 09, 2010 05:44 AM (OlN4e)

10 There's an article at Drudge that made me cringe. The link did -- I haven't even read the article yet.

I'm gonna open it and post it here. Back in a sec.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 05:46 AM (7+pP9)

11 There was no healthcare bounce cause of O's middle name is Hussein.

Posted by: Mr Pink at July 09, 2010 05:47 AM (GUdli)

12

 Is Oakland burning yet?

Nope. Some problems, a good portion of which were caused by out of towners, i.e., anarchists.

I still need to check in with the family members who have businesses downtown.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 05:49 AM (XdlcF)

13 #6 We had a guy in my little hometown that lost his license, got a DUI on a golf cart, got a DUI on a riding lawmower, and to took to going to the bar in his Kobuta front loader. I don't know if that made him more or less dangerous as a drunk driver.

Posted by: Alex at July 09, 2010 05:51 AM (ifK+p)

14 Yep -- it's horrible:

The Obama-Pelosi Lame Duck Strategy
Union 'card-check,' cap and trade, and so much more.


[ . . . ]

The rush to recess gives Democrats little time to pass any major laws. That's why there have been signs in recent weeks that party leaders are planning an ambitious, lame-duck session to muscle through bills in December they don't want to defend before November. Retiring or defeated members of Congress would then be able to vote for sweeping legislation without any fear of voter retaliation.

[ . . . ]

In the House, Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva, co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, told reporters last month that for bills like "card check"—the measure to curb secret-ballot union elections—"the lame duck would be the last chance, quite honestly, for the foreseeable future."

[ . . . ]

Other lame-duck possibilities? Senate ratification of the New Start nuclear treaty, a federally mandated universal voter registration system to override state laws, and a budget resolution to lock in increased agency spending.

[ . . . ]

Mike Allen of Politico.com reports one reason President Obama failed to mention climate change legislation during his recent, Oval Office speech on the Gulf oil spill was that he wants to pass a modest energy bill this summer, then add carbon taxes or regulations in a conference committee with the House, most likely during a lame-duck session. The result would be a climate bill vastly more ambitious, and costly for American consumers and taxpayers, than moderate "Blue Dogs" in the House would support on the campaign trail. "We have a lot of wiggle room in conference," a House Democratic aide told the trade publication Environment & Energy Daily last month.
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This ain't gonna be pretty

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 05:53 AM (7+pP9)

15 What, no musical lyrics to start the day of with.....

You asked.

And now I feel like a loser for posting this. Thanks a lot!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 09, 2010 05:55 AM (pLTLS)

16

Ace et al.....

Have you seen or done a post on this?

Justice Kennedy publically announces he will NOT be retiring prior to 2013. hmmmm.... I guess having the FU given to you makes you see things very clearly about the abuses of the current exec. branch

http://tinyurl.com/36tbkup

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 05:55 AM (ACkhT)

17 Fuck the will of the American public, I won, and even if me and mine lose we will spit in ur face on the way out the door.

Posted by: Obama at July 09, 2010 05:56 AM (GUdli)

18 http://tinyurl.com/245mqxy
This is the best video you're going to see on BHO's pandering to muslims. Gird your loins. Stick it out to the end or else I'll hit you with my ruler.

Posted by: Granny Jan at July 09, 2010 05:56 AM (2g83H)

19 and to took to going to the bar in his Kobuta front loader.

Heh, yeah, the drunks in my hometown would use their tractors. But being drunk on public roads should be different than being drunk in your front lawn.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 09, 2010 05:57 AM (M9BNu)

20 We got a call from India about our new robot.
It failed when someone mentioned Obama's middle name.

Posted by: Beto at July 09, 2010 06:00 AM (H+LJc)

21 I posted about Justice Kennedy not retiring until Obama was out a few days ago in the ONT, but only the morons noticed, john_c.

Good news, eh?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 09, 2010 06:01 AM (7b1Uc)

22

But are you feeling fly?

I'm 'an iota of a cracka'. Is that allowed??

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 09, 2010 06:01 AM (pLTLS)

23 Was the robot made in Mumbai, Beto?

Posted by: andycanuck at July 09, 2010 06:02 AM (7b1Uc)

24 21 The Cavaliers took a lot of heat for taking him right out of High School
I don't know why. He was 24 years old after all.

Posted by: Beto at July 09, 2010 06:02 AM (H+LJc)

25

I want to explain my comment above about the Daily Kos article:  This is a wolf in sheeps clothing, imo.  And here's why; If the writer truly feels this way about what they are saying, there is no way to shoehorn this into the left's way of thinking at this point in time.  If they truly feel this way, they aren't Democrat - period.

I am ultra suspicious about an article like this because the Dems know that they are likely to get their asses handed to them and one very good way to prevent that is to pretend to be something they aren't.

Are the left revolutionaries?  You had better believe it.  Are they revolutionaries for original intent?  Guess.

Let's see them apply this same logic to 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'  If they do, they will become the most vocal antagonists of abortion.

They will try to co opt originalist beliefs of the right and apply them to the collectivist beliefs of the left in advance of the coming elections.  1) They don't fit, and 2) we can't allow them to pull the wool over everyones eyes again.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 09, 2010 06:03 AM (RkRxq)

26 From March 01, 2009 but still relevant. Compare and contrast. President Bush greeting Marines and his leave-taking from them. President Obama greeting Marines and his leave-taking from them.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 09, 2010 06:05 AM (7b1Uc)

27 Huh... NASA's new primary mission to make Muslims feel good didn't work out so well. Who Knew? BREAKING! Iranian Robot Soorena-2 Hijacks Space Shuttle

Posted by: naturalfake at July 09, 2010 06:05 AM (I49Jm)

28 28 No, it was made in Austin. It tests Mahindra trucks.
Mahindra trucks. Coming soon to a dealer near you.
(but not the ones with the Turbo Diesel that get 40mpg)

Posted by: Beto at July 09, 2010 06:06 AM (H+LJc)

29

LOL.  Ok, I have to share, I just received yet another request for donated from the un-DNC

guess what one of the lines was: "the repubs are going to use Ken Starr like trials"

I just received this yesterday.  I am sending the letter back... writing: "BRING IT ON!" -- from a former disgusted democrat.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 06:07 AM (ACkhT)

30 America Held Hostage:  Day 536

Posted by: toby928 at July 09, 2010 06:08 AM (4WbTI)

31 *donations, I meant to say

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 06:09 AM (ACkhT)

32 This monster heatwave we've been having all week was because Obama's middle name is Hussein

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team, Summoner etc. at July 09, 2010 06:10 AM (eCAn3)

33 Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you...

From the link:

51-year-old Jack Hansell says he and his family heard sounds in their kitchen shortly after midnight on Thursday morning and quickly discovered that a bear had entered their home. Hansell tried to approach the bear with a baseball bat and was attacked as the animal tried to get past him, the DOW said.

Must have been the typical libtard idiot invoking Darwin.

Most knowledgeable people would be worried to go after a bear with anything less than a 3-06.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 06:10 AM (/jbAw)

34 A Russian news agency says a plane carrying 10 people deported from the United States for spying has landed in Moscow.

The report by the state news agency RIA Novosti says the plane arrived Friday afternoon.

Only a few hours earlier, the US and Russia exchanged 10 spies arrested in the U.S. for four convicted in Russia in a tightly choreographed diplomatic dance at Vienna's airport.

I don't suppose we could swap Barry for that Russian spy chick

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2010 06:10 AM (1Jaio)

35

This monster heatwave we've been having all week was because Obama's middle name is Hussein

Heh, loves it!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 09, 2010 06:15 AM (pLTLS)

36 hahhahah Beck is saying that "he" inherited those bad poll numbers from GWB...

Posted by: curious at July 09, 2010 06:15 AM (p302b)

37 It's Brian Dennehy's birthday. Where's the flaming skull?

Posted by: Ted K. at July 09, 2010 06:16 AM (NehOJ)

38 It turns out that the teabagger who torched the mosque in Georgia was an illegal alien.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 06:17 AM (7+pP9)

39 curious -- where I can listen to beck?  TY.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 06:17 AM (ACkhT)

40 I've no problem with arresting a drunk guy creating a hazard on a public road, but the part at the end where the sheriff says he can come arrest you for motor vehicle crimes if you're mowing your own front lawn scares me.

The bottom line here was:

Most likely, though, it was the fact he was riding a lawn mower down the highway.

The end sentence:

In Iowa, it's illegal to drive any motor vehicle anywhere while intoxicated, Fehr said. Grimstad could have been charged while mowing his own lawn, the sheriff said.

The sheriff is full of shit. You can't arrest someone for driving anything in their own yard. All traffic laws are based on implied consent for driving on government owned roads.  If you are not on the road they have no consent.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 06:19 AM (/jbAw)

41 The Big Talker....but sometimes, during the commercials they go completely silent for like two minutes and you can watch and listen to other stuff.

Posted by: curious at July 09, 2010 06:19 AM (p302b)

42 polynikes - I believe police need to improve their public image; and the best way would be to separate normal patrol duties from traffic enforcement. Even if it is the same agency - same officers - just different cars and uniforms. The vast majority of us only fear a speeding ticket, let us fear somebody else.

Posted by: Jean at July 09, 2010 06:20 AM (XpQZ+)

43 curious -- thanks. 

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 06:20 AM (ACkhT)

44 Debbie Schlussel's former boss has pleaded guilty in a terrorist financing case. He's former Republican congressman and U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Mark Deli Siljander.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 06:21 AM (7+pP9)

45 go to the daily caller, then go to Jim Treachers nook. He has a photo of Rachel Maddow from highschool, and um... she used to be good looking.

Posted by: Ben at July 09, 2010 06:22 AM (wuv1c)

46 Does anyone want to touch that story on drudge about the euro liquefying human corpses and blending them with the sewage. Sort of like soylent green for plants.

Posted by: Jean at July 09, 2010 06:24 AM (uzi+0)

47 A filibuster is still needs 60 votes to overcome, right?  Last I looked, there were 41 GOP Senators.

Good luck with that lame-duck session, idiots. 

Not even the GOP will roll over for shit like card check when they've got an inbound batch of new Senators and Representatives.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 09, 2010 06:24 AM (ZESU0)

48

The sheriff is full of shit. You can't arrest someone for driving anything in their own yard. All traffic laws are based on implied consent for driving on government owned roads.  If you are not on the road they have no consent.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 10:19 AM (/jbAw)

In Kentucky you can get a DUI roller skating. Or riding a sleigh. Anything other than walking. And on your own property if the police have a reason to be there.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 06:24 AM (7+pP9)

49 That woman in the Trump advert really has a nice ass, doesn't she? I approve of all AoS adverts featuring a nice female ass. Carry on.

Posted by: dr kill at July 09, 2010 06:27 AM (w9bVp)

50 And for only 109 bucks a night. What's not to like?

Posted by: dr kill at July 09, 2010 06:28 AM (w9bVp)

51

Glad to see Bartle B., a renowed DEMOCRAT civil rights atty, called the community organizer A HUSTLER.

I just heard his interview, said he realised the community organizer was a hustler and so voted and campaigned for Mccain/Palin.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 06:29 AM (ACkhT)

52 In Kentucky you can get a DUI roller skating. Or riding a sleigh. Anything other than walking. And on your own property if the police have a reason to be there.

As in Iowa that law would last s long as it takes for someone to challenge it.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 06:29 AM (/jbAw)

53 Did you see the flying car article from the headlines sidebar?  Pure awesome with a warm, gooey center of awesomeness. 

Posted by: Insomniac at July 09, 2010 06:30 AM (DrWcr)

54 Didn't George Jones get nicked mowing his way to the local gin mill after his old lady took the keys?

Posted by: dr kill at July 09, 2010 06:30 AM (w9bVp)

55 Not sure that privatization is the way to go but it is comments like this about Chris christie that make you realize he is doing what he said he would do:  "You can privatize all day long, but if you ignore the gross inequities between rich and poor...selling
off state assets is nothing but a scam.

The guy has a 33% approval rating...he's a one term drama queen."

Posted by: curious at July 09, 2010 06:31 AM (p302b)

56 Oh looky, Eric Holder is sticking his nose into the Mehserle case. Big surprise, not

Posted by: Zimriel at July 09, 2010 06:32 AM (9Sbz+)

57

I am so sick of seeing this hustler on TV.  Sick of it! I just heard what he said about Sharron Angle.

Just for that, I am now donating to Sharron Angle, please do so if you haven't already.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 06:33 AM (ACkhT)

58 polynikes - I'm not saying the guys doing the stops shouldn't be armed for bear and full cops (ie Euro traffic cops who aren't full cops); but the image problem needs to be fixed. I'm sure cops hate running speed traps and handing out tickets for expired inspection stickers on the side of a busy road in the rain.

Posted by: Jean at July 09, 2010 06:33 AM (PBsU2)

59

Looks like Eric Holder is going to review the BART shooting case. I'm sure race has nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Ben at July 09, 2010 06:36 AM (wuv1c)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 09, 2010 06:36 AM (M9BNu)

61 Just don't forget that Officer Friendly is not your friend, that's all. Always politely assert your constitutional rights and you'll be OK.

Posted by: dr kill at July 09, 2010 06:36 AM (w9bVp)

62 Aw jeez!

From S&L:

GOP leaders let demagogues set tone, lawmaker saysWASHINGTON – Too many Republican leaders are acquiescing to a poisonous "demagoguery" that threatens the party’s long-term credibility, says a veteran GOP House member who was defeated in South Carolina’s primary last month.

While not naming names, 12-year incumbent Rep. Bob Inglis suggested in interviews with The Associated Press that tea party favorites such as former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and right-wing talk show hosts like Glenn Beck are the culprits.

He cited a claim made famous by Palin that the Democratic health care bill would create "death panels" to decide whether elderly or sick people should get care.


"There were no death panels in the bill Â… and to encourage that kind of fear is just the lowest form of political leadership. ItÂ’s not leadership. ItÂ’s demagoguery," said Inglis, one of three Republican incumbents who have lost their seats in Congress to primary and state party convention challengers this year.

Mr. Inglis meet Mr. Berwick.

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So now we've got a sore loser stabbing us in the back. It wouldn't surprise me if he pulled a Specter.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 06:37 AM (7+pP9)

63 The movie Gigli failed to perform at the box office because 9bama's middle name is Hussein.

Posted by: Mr Pink at July 09, 2010 06:39 AM (GUdli)

64

 Does anyone want to touch that story on drudge about the euro liquefying human corpses and blending them with the sewage. Sort of like soylent green for plants.

 

eh that doesn't bother me. People do weird things with corpses. Some people consider burial creep. Other consider creamation creepy.  If people want their corpses liquified and flushed down the toilet, who i am to say they can't do that.

as long as they are not doing it to living people or euthinizing people and liquifying them, then it doesn't bother me.

Personally when i die, I want family to tear off my limbs and beat hippies with my detatched arms and legs.

Posted by: Ben at July 09, 2010 06:39 AM (wuv1c)

65 with regards to Holder in the Oakland case: Whitewash

Posted by: Obviously Racist at July 09, 2010 06:41 AM (Yp0Ox)

66 As in Iowa that law would last s long as it takes for someone to challenge it.

I'm not so sure.  Admittedly, I've no faith in any court upholding the rights of the citizen over the whims of the government since Kelo (Heller did not restore my faith)....but mostly, neoProhibitionism is just another plank in the Progg-Nazi platform, like tobacco bans and soda bans and meat-free Mondays and whatnot.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 09, 2010 06:42 AM (M9BNu)

67 Good morning!  What's shakin' morons?!

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 06:43 AM (HDip8)

68 Hey meat-free days - are liberals poaching on our ideas!

Posted by: Zombie Pope at July 09, 2010 06:44 AM (dFPLJ)

69 again, i would be remiss if i didn't send you to jim treacher's page where he has a picture of Maddow in highschool, and she is definately doable.

Posted by: Ben at July 09, 2010 06:45 AM (wuv1c)

70

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Half of Americans reject President Barack Obama's lawsuit against Arizona's controversial immigration law, with only a third supporting the move, according to a Gallup Poll released Friday.

Nearly eight in 10 Republicans (79 percent) opposed the lawsuit, while 56 percent of Democrats were in favor of the Obama administration's decision.

Overall, 50 percent of Americans said they were against the move, compared to 33 percent in favor.

Other polls have also shown strong national support for Arizona's measure, the first law making illegal immigration a state crime.

 

Obviously people oppose Barry's lawsuit because his middle name is Hussein

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2010 06:46 AM (1Jaio)

71

"He cited a claim made famous by Palin that the Democratic health care bill would create "death panels" to decide whether elderly or sick people should get care."

This is exactly why Bennett in Utah lost. He denounced "death panels", how the hell are these people this dense?

If there is a limited amount of monies afforded, what the hell do they think will happen when that money runs out?  Services and medicine will have to be limited, and who the hell gets to decided this? A DEATH PANEL, yes, they won't say directly who lives and who dies, but when they deny people medicine because of limited funds and therefore services cut, it will lead to early death for those deemed too sick or too far along in their disease and not worth saving.

Hell, just look at what is now happening to the post office, services are being cut because money is tight and its budget is being limited.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 09, 2010 06:46 AM (ACkhT)

72 What the heck is going on at mypetjawa?  I try to visit the site, I see the site flash up on the browser, then it goes white and says it is trying to connect to b.scorecardresearch.com and just hangs there forever.  Its been doing it for two days now, I have cleared cookies and cache.

Is it just me or is anyone else having that problem, too?

Posted by: crosspatch at July 09, 2010 06:46 AM (ZbLJZ)

73 A filibuster is still needs 60 votes to overcome, right?  Last I looked, there were 41 GOP Senators.

Good luck with that lame-duck session, idiots. 

Not even the GOP will roll over for shit like card check when they've got an inbound batch of new Senators and Representatives.

Did somebody just hear a phone ring?

Posted by: Olympia Snowe at July 09, 2010 06:47 AM (FkKjr)

74 83

"He cited a claim made famous by Palin that the Democratic health care bill would create "death panels" to decide whether elderly or sick people should get care."

This is exactly why Bennett in Utah lost. He denounced "death panels", how the hell are these people this dense?

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I thought he lost the Republican primary because he was seen as being too pro-pork.  And did he also vote for TARP? 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 06:50 AM (HDip8)

75 Did somebody just hear a phone ring?

Posted by: Olympia Snowe at July 09, 2010 10:47 AM

Don't pick it up.


Posted by: Susan Collins at July 09, 2010 06:50 AM (ZESU0)

76
Is it just me or is anyone else having that problem, too?

I read in the comments (just a few minutes ago) that folks were having problems with the 'hawt princess leia' post/pic.  The symptom you describe sounds the same.  Some folks didn't have the problem, so the thought was that it was a Firefox problem... but... I'm running Firefox (on a Mac). 

Try a different browser... ?

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 06:52 AM (HDip8)

77 Thanks, Y-not.  Yeah, I am using Firefox on Win7.  I will try chrome.


Posted by: crosspatch at July 09, 2010 06:55 AM (ZbLJZ)

78 Hey, you, get off of my cloud.

Posted by: Barry & Mick caterwauling a feel-good ditty & partying it up at July 09, 2010 06:55 AM (GwPRU)

79 Happy Friday, all. 

I wasn't interested in Beck's event on the Mall in August, but with King Shabbaz Shamwow Shithead and the New Black Panthers attending, I might just have to buy a taser and an aluminum baseball bat and attend.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2010 06:56 AM (UOM48)

80

Let's see them apply this same logic to 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'

Logic is a trick word.  It has no meaning and you are not allowed to use it.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 09, 2010 06:57 AM (nJ+P3)

81 So I was at the Cabelas in Utah this past week and I have to say, Bass Pro Shops (at least the one in Rancho Cucamonga, CA) is superior.

Let the flaming begin! 

;-) 

Also, everyone in Utah is nice (except when they are in their cars, when they are not so nice).  It's probably going to take me a few months to decompress back to living around nice people once we move there. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 06:57 AM (HDip8)

82

The 'Summer of Recovery' Barry's Travelling Vaudeville Comedy Tour continues:

http://tinyurl.com/375tdfk

Now with new, more ridiculously funny, infact insanely funny acts added!

Now with Elmer Fudd's uglier, less believable twin brother!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 09, 2010 06:58 AM (RkRxq)

83 Bass Pro Shops

I have always loved that store. I wish we had one near here but my wallet is glad. That store is worse than a hardware store full of tools. It is guy heaven.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 06:59 AM (/jbAw)

84
What is it with Asians and their stinky breath fumes?

for fuck's sake

Posted by: I pose for animal crackers at July 09, 2010 07:00 AM (uFokq)

85 Can the attorney general interfere in a case like that....just decide to review it?  Just like he can decide not to put up a case?  Or is he butting in where he doesn't belong and over stepping his bounds?

Posted by: curious at July 09, 2010 07:01 AM (p302b)

86 I got through to MyPetJawa with no problem using IE 7.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 07:03 AM (XdlcF)

87 95 Bass Pro Shops

I have always loved that store. I wish we had one near here but my wallet is glad.

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Yeah, it's pretty darned sweet.  Even for a chick it is fun.  They have pretty nice clothes.  I guess there's not a Bass in Utah, nor a Dick's Sporting Goods (which I also like), so the Cabela's will have to do. 

The Cabela's is good, but I miss the power boats.  Now it may be that the firearms section of Cabela's is superior... I'm not educated enough to know the difference.  Cabela's did have a really nice collector's quality gun library that I don't recall seeing at the Bass Pro Shop. 


Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:03 AM (HDip8)

88

curious, they are looking to see if there is a (Federal) civil rights case.

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 07:06 AM (XdlcF)

89

A filibuster is still needs 60 votes to overcome, right?  Last I looked, there were 41 GOP Senators.

yup but now you need to count the number of GOP senators that are not spineless RINO's

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 09, 2010 07:06 AM (e8T35)

90 so that's interesting, and yesterday hannity had on a syrrian woman who was really smart and really pissed at shari.

almost seems like people have no faith in Americans anymore...

Posted by: curious at July 09, 2010 07:07 AM (p302b)

91

91 
I wasn't interested in Beck's event on the Mall in August, but with King Shabbaz Shamwow Shithead and the New Black Panthers attending, I might just have to buy a taser and an aluminum baseball bat and attend.

This.

Jane D'oh, you Georgia cracker, you!   

 

Posted by: Marybeth, (practically) a Florida cracker at July 09, 2010 07:07 AM (hBRoa)

92 101

A filibuster is still needs 60 votes to overcome, right?  Last I looked, there were 41 GOP Senators.

yup but now you need to count the number of GOP senators that are not spineless RINO's

We're boned. 

Posted by: Marybeth at July 09, 2010 07:09 AM (hBRoa)

93 Can the attorney general interfere in a case like that....just decide to review it?  Just like he can decide not to put up a case?  Or is he butting in where he doesn't belong and over stepping his bounds?

Remember when they passed that BS hate crimes law that added homo hate as a hate crime? Well the most onerous addition to that law was not the homo hate although that is all you heard about in the MFM.

It also reworded the activating portion of the law to say that any time the DOJ decided that local prosecution of a "hate crime" was not adequate the DOJ could intervene and prosecute as a hate crime.

Said "adequacy" to be determined by the AG.  Note that the original law required a ruling by a federal court on the "adequacy" before the DOJ could act.

With the current AG all crimes by whites against blacks are "hate crimes" and no crimes by "blacks" can ever be a hate crime.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 07:09 AM (/jbAw)

94

yup but now you need to count the number of GOP senators that are not spineless RINO's

Posted by: StuckOnStupid

Ordinarily, sure.  Do you really think any of the ones who have miraculously hewed pretty much to the party line are going to just decide to shit the bed during a lame duck session?  Especially if the GOP kills the Dems in November?

I think not.  These guys will eventually turn back into useless slobbering fatbodies but now, for a while at least, they are born-again hard.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 09, 2010 07:12 AM (ZESU0)

95

Unfortunately, even the best schools in this country are unable to offer courses in common sense in their curriculums. It isn't learned. It is genetic. So either children are born with it, or they aren't.

With increasing frequency, one gets the uneasy feeling, especially lately, that the leaders of the so called "Progressive" movement consider it to be a detriment to their cause among their rank and file members, and so who would be surprised if the Obama Administration decided to classify it as a birth defect?

(Who would be surprised either if those dimwits, Obama and Holder, will make inquiries to ascertain if it shows up in sonograms, perhaps as further justifications for abortions?)

Posted by: Just a thought, or two at July 09, 2010 07:13 AM (sYrWB)

96

per Drudge

Mexican clown arrested for sex assualt. God love'em. they are just doing the jobs americans won't do.

Posted by: Ben at July 09, 2010 07:16 AM (wuv1c)

97 D'oh Boy worked at Bass Pro before boot camp.  He got a 40% employee discount.  Needless to say, most of his paycheck went to clothes, boots, ammo, etc.  Which was fine.  Especially the ammo.

When he was at MOS in Missouri ("Fort Lost in the Woods, Misery"), the Marines went to the Bass Pro headquarters in St. Louis.  It was like the mother ship to him.  He said they have a trout stream running through the place, and it's huge. 

He still calls Bass Pro his "happy place".

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2010 07:18 AM (UOM48)

98

yup but now you need to count the number of GOP senators that are not spineless RINO's

I agree with Balrog. Let's say the election is like 1994. The republicans win 40-50 house seats and 4-8 senate seats, do you think the republicans in congress are going to go against that title wave, even after the election?

 

All 41 senators will filabuster. Also keep in mind there aren't 100 senators anymore. Sheets is gone and there is no fill in.

Posted by: Ben at July 09, 2010 07:18 AM (wuv1c)

99 http://tinyurl.com/2e77f96

Holder's finally found a racial case to prosecute! Video of Black Panthers waving truncheons around and telling whitey to get the fuck out isn't enough evidence, but a case that's already had a trial and a guilty verdict is being closely examined. No doubt a full-blown civil rights investigation will ensue. It seems to me that with Eric Holder, Barack Obama found his replacement for Jeremiah Wright rather quickly. Of course, with Obama's "private" Blackberry that no one is allowed to see, we only have Wright's public statements to go on that Obama has stopped talking to him. Who wants to bet that's just another mountain of bullshit?

Posted by: chaos at July 09, 2010 07:18 AM (XvlZj)

100

Bass Pro Shops

I have always loved that store. I wish we had one near here but my wallet is glad.

I swear my daughter's boyfriend started salivating when we decided to stop there last month in Des Moines.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 09, 2010 07:19 AM (nJ+P3)

101 @ 31 Re: Compare and Contrast

WOW

Awesome video.  Everyone should watch that.

Obumbles is a FRAUD

Posted by: MelodicMetal at July 09, 2010 07:19 AM (x4S2a)

102 Unfortunately, even the best schools in this country are unable to offer courses in common sense in their curriculums. It isn't learned. It is genetic. So either children are born with it, or they aren't.

We will always have people prone to doing stupid things.  Ignoring them for a moment, how many people who were not born prone to doing stupid things end up being people who do stupid things because of the moral hazards we construct for the benefit of the natural stupids?

Posted by: MikeO at July 09, 2010 07:22 AM (lBmZl)

103

from Newsbusters: Washington Post Hysterically Explains Why Tan Tax Isn't Racist http://bit.ly/cQw4WW

If you thought ObamaCare's new tax on tanning salons was racist, the Washington Post wants to set you straight: it ain't!

The reason according to a piece published at the Post's website Thursday evening: the government didn't INTEND to disadvantage white people with this law.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - disenfranchising liberals since the 70's at July 09, 2010 07:22 AM (YVZlY)

104

I'd never heard of Bass Pro until last year's move.

It's an interesting experience. It's more than a store, it's a...destination. Restraunts, etc.

Got good shirts for my husband there.

 

My kids want to go fishing and I don't think hubby is ever going to take them. I plan on going to the fishing section of Bass Pro and asking what I need.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 07:22 AM (XdlcF)

105

@ 31 Re: Compare and Contrast

WOW

Awesome video.  Everyone should watch that.

Obumbles is a FRAUD

The live, recorded evidence that this idiot is a fraud is so clear, numerous and aplenty that only a brain-fried, self-deluded halfwit would still believe him.  Which is why he's still in office.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 09, 2010 07:25 AM (nJ+P3)

106 Sheets is gone and there is no fill in.

That is not the case.  Manchin will appoint somebody.  The question is whether that appointment lasts until 2013 or only until this coming January.

Posted by: MikeO at July 09, 2010 07:26 AM (lBmZl)

107

It isn't learned. It is genetic. So either children are born with it, or they aren't.

Then why am I pretty sure that I'm the only person in my family who doesn't vote democrat?

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 09, 2010 07:27 AM (nJ+P3)

108 The reason according to a piece published at the Post's website Thursday evening: the government didn't INTEND to disadvantage white people with this law.

This might be an opening to introduce the concept of Disparate Impact Theory to the general public.  Many people I consider well informed about politics have no clue about that.  Most do not believe it when I explain it to them.

Posted by: MikeO at July 09, 2010 07:30 AM (lBmZl)

109 He still calls Bass Pro his "happy place".

Like I said; Guy Heaven! Hell, it even beats Lowe's and I have to turn my head and look the other way when I pass that place. The steering wheel on my truck starts moving on its own and I have to fight it.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 07:30 AM (/jbAw)

110 I think you can acquire a certain amount of "common sense" by developing skills in engineering and experimental science.  It teaches you to question assumptions, look at things critically, innovate and problem-solve, which are pretty key to common sense (particularly the first two). 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:31 AM (HDip8)

111

Now you guys are making me want to go to Bass Pro Shop. There is one only a few miles from me, but I've never gone. Although when it opened a couple of years ago there was some huge traffic problem.. There is also a Cabela's about 15 minutes up the road. Great place!

Oh, and some good news for those interested. The latest issue of "Beer" magazine is out. And the focus this time is on home-brewing. Enjoy!

Posted by: HH at July 09, 2010 07:31 AM (6oDXl)

112 Posted by: chaos at July 09, 2010 11:18 AM

Looks like we're in for a new era of racial hatred, discrimination and violence in America. Knee-jerk haters such as Osama Obama, Holder and their pets (Shabazz, Wright, the DoJ) have been given a free pass to Take it to The Man, and that's what they're going to do.

While they and their posse loot, burn, steal and destroy, the race-guilt-ridden hippie children of the 60s will serve as willing apologists for them.

The potential consequences are horrific. How many will die in the rioting and purges?

But hey, look over there! It's Lindsey Lohan!

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 09, 2010 07:31 AM (Ulu3i)

113 The prices at Cabela's seemed a bit better than Bass, but that could just be the California vs Utah difference. 

The Utah Cabela's also has a rather large 'bargain shop' that was pretty fun. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:32 AM (HDip8)

114 We will always have people prone to doing stupid things.  Ignoring them for a moment, how many people who were not born prone to doing stupid things end up being people who do stupid things because of the moral hazards we construct for the benefit of the natural stupids?

Posted by: MikeO at July 09, 2010 11:22 AM (lBmZl)

 

Whoa, dude, that was a heavy thought. We'll have to ponder that one.

Posted by: Just a thought, or two at July 09, 2010 07:33 AM (sYrWB)

115

My kids want to go fishing and I don't think hubby is ever going to take them. I plan on going to the fishing section of Bass Pro and asking what I need.

That is both a difficult question for the salesman and an invitation to get sold a whole hellova lotta stuff you don't need or will ever use. You would be better off to buy some magazines and check out the equipment they are using for catching whatever kind of fish you are interested in. Generally a medium weight rig for 8-10 pound test line and a medium action 6 foot rod will handle most kinds of fishing. Stay away from bait casters, they require too much practice to get good with. Spinning rigs are easiest. Do you intend to fish live bait or artificials? Bass? Catfish? Bluegill? Crappie? River? Lake? From a boat or from the shore? Many variables.

Posted by: maddogg at July 09, 2010 07:33 AM (OlN4e)

116 My kids want to go fishing and I don't think hubby is ever going to take them.

Sacrilege! Tell him the Morons say he is in danger of losing his man card.


Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 07:34 AM (/jbAw)

117

Is home-brewing more expensive than buying beer?

I'm on a kick of making things at home...if it's cheaper than buying it.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 07:35 AM (XdlcF)

118 125 The prices at Cabela's seemed a bit better than Bass, but that could just be the California vs Utah difference. 

The Utah Cabela's also has a rather large 'bargain shop' that was pretty fun. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 11:32 AM (HDip

I live about 10 minutes from the Utah Cabela's. Let's just say that my 28 year old son that loves to hunt is a frequent shopper.  The best part is he usually asks if I want to join him.  You know what the answer is.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - disenfranchising liberals since the 70's at July 09, 2010 07:36 AM (YVZlY)

119

Is home-brewing more expensive than buying beer?

I'm on a kick of making things at home...if it's cheaper than buying it.

No, but the quality is higher and the variety is endless. Yes, I am a home brewer.

Posted by: maddogg at July 09, 2010 07:37 AM (OlN4e)

120

Vic, I think he knows their attention span and the fact that they probably aren't actually going to want to eat the fish. Or touch it.

Does he get the card back if he's maneuvering me into dealing with it?

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 07:37 AM (XdlcF)

121

Then why am I pretty sure that I'm the only person in my family who doesn't vote democrat?

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 09, 2010 11:27 AM (nJ+P3)

 

Um, it's a regressive gene, katya. Sometimes it skips a generation ......, or two.

Posted by: Just a thought, or two at July 09, 2010 07:37 AM (sYrWB)

122 #31  Watching that video of Bush and the Marines, and then that worthless POS Barry and "his" "corpse" brought tears to my eyes.  God, how I hate our son serving under President Prissypants Golfsalot.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2010 07:38 AM (UOM48)

123 If you open a refrigerator and set to max in a sealed room, Common sense would tell you the room would get colder.  Common Sense is wrong.

Common sense would guide you to set up an experiment (even if you didn't realize that's what you were doing) to ascertain if the fridge would eventually cool the room.

People without common sense would simply keep the door open indefinitely, irrespective of results, and ultimately conclude that there was something special or "wrong" with the room and/or the fridge if it didn't feel colder.

You can really tell who has common sense when dealing with IT issues.  People with common sense can trouble shoot computer issues, identifying the nature of the problem even if they can't fix them. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:38 AM (HDip8)

124 I live about 10 minutes from the Utah Cabela's. 

Greetings again! 

'Looks like we may wind up living in Springville, a bit further south than we'd intended but we found a rental that looks good. 

We'll have to get together this fall once we're settled.

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:40 AM (HDip8)

125 If the Republican's want to stop mischief in a lame duck season, they need to make the point that Representatives that have been rejected by their electorate have no credibility. 

They must promise, a priori, they they will fillibuster everything in a lame duck session, not just stuff the majority of them doesn't like.

Hang together they must.

Posted by: toby928 at July 09, 2010 07:40 AM (4WbTI)

126

While we're on the subject of Cabela's and Bass Pro Shop:

You Might be a Cracker if ...You've ever been involved in a custody fight over a hunting dog.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - Utah born cracker at July 09, 2010 07:41 AM (YVZlY)

127 conscious, but incoherent - disenfranchising liberals since the 70's

Do you know if that Cabela's offers firearm training?  Mr. Y-not is interested in taking up target practice (hand guns) and I'm interested in taking up skeet based on a little experience we had with a friend while living in Texas. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:42 AM (HDip8)

128 According to "Beer", it is indeed cheaper. Probably depends on type of equipment, etc and how much beer you drink.. Plus you get to re-use your bottles. Hey, even us morons can be *green*. Well, for our own cause of course.

Posted by: HH at July 09, 2010 07:42 AM (6oDXl)

129 Hmm, same thing at Rusty's place with chrome browser.  I guess I will just have to wait until he gets that crap off his site.


Posted by: crosspatch at July 09, 2010 07:43 AM (ZbLJZ)

130 'Looks like we may wind up living in Springville, a bit further south than we'd intended but we found a rental that looks good. 

We'll have to get together this fall once we're settled.

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 11:40 AM (HDip

Springville is a great area and I'd really enjoy meeting you once you're moved and settled.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - Utah born cracker at July 09, 2010 07:43 AM (YVZlY)

131

142 According to "Beer", it is indeed cheaper. Probably depends on type of equipment, etc and how much beer you drink.. Plus you get to re-use your bottles. Hey, even us morons can be *green*. Well, for our own cause of course.

Washing the equipment and especially the bottles is most of the work, and it can be considerable.

Posted by: maddogg at July 09, 2010 07:44 AM (OlN4e)

132 You Might be a Cracker if ...You've ever been involved in a custody fight over a hunting dog.

LOL.

Along those lines, there's an amusing "You know you're from Southern Utah..." group on Facebook. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:45 AM (HDip8)

133 Seriously MamaAJ if you want to save some money and just get a few things to take the kids fishing with just go by Wally-Mart and get a Zebco rod and real (cheap), a few small "clip-on" plastic bobbers, a cricket basket, a submersible fish basket, and a box of hooks of various sizes. Usually a number 4 is good for a start.

Stop by a bait and tackle shop on the way and get a 100 crickets and a small tub of red wigglers.

No need for a pile of expensive lures etc. Let them get into that if they start the big time fishing. Personally I liked fly fishing when not using live bait anyway.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 07:45 AM (/jbAw)

134

"I (expletive) busted my ass and pissed people off and gave your grandmother a free (expletive) ride on a bus. OK? I gave your (expletive) baby a chance to have health care," Blagojevich ranted. "And what do I get for that?" he continued, "Only 13 percent of you all out there think I'm doing a good job. So (expletive) all of you."

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 09, 2010 10:12 AM (OWjjx)

It's like the Gettysburg Address only smarter.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 09, 2010 07:50 AM (xxgag)

135 Do you know if that Cabela's offers firearm training?  Mr. Y-not is interested in taking up target practice (hand guns) and I'm interested in taking up skeet based on a little experience we had with a friend while living in Texas. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 11:42 AM (HDip

I don't think Cabela's does, but there are many places close by that do.  You will find that Utah is a very, very friendly 2nd amendment state.  There is a gun shop about a half mile from cabela's that offers firearms training and there are indoor and outdoor shooting ranges everywhere. There is an indoor range about 15 minutes from where I live where you can fire any of their guns they have in stock to determine if you like it.  That includes a 50 cal. BMG.  Those are pretty loud when fired indoors and you can feel the concussion two or three booths away. You'll love it here.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - Utah born cracker at July 09, 2010 07:50 AM (YVZlY)

136

Thanks, Vic.

I'll start by telling them we have to buy crickets and worms to put on a hook and see if we even get past the ick factor. The Walmart back in Del Rio (think Lake Amistad if you know about fishing tournaments and such) sold bait and I'm guessing the ones here do too (Red River and lots of lakes, bayous and other waterways).

As for the beer making, I'm not in the mood for shelling out money for equipment right now. I'll stick with baking bread and making tortillas today!

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 07:50 AM (XdlcF)

137 Plus you get to re-use your bottles. Hey, even us morons can be *green*.

Helping my dad collect non-twistoff bottles when he started homebrewing was a lot of fun. We'd smuggle them out of restaurants in my purse while my mother pretended she didn't know us.

I plan to take it up myself when I get a basement, but I also want to try to grow my own hops.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 09, 2010 07:52 AM (M9BNu)

138 If you open a refrigerator and set to max in a sealed room, Common sense would tell you the room would get colder.  Common Sense is wrong.

Posted by: Zuggs

Common sense would notice the back of the refrigerator is hot.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 09, 2010 07:53 AM (ZESU0)

139

Vic, I think he knows their attention span and the fact that they probably aren't actually going to want to eat the fish. Or touch it.

Mustn't let them get away with that. If they fish they must bait their own hooks, take the fish off when caught, and clean the fish. I'll cut them some slack and say mom should cook the fish (coated in corn meal and fried of course). Once they eat fresh caught fish they will never want any other fish. Red Lobster would go bankrupt if more people fished and ate it fresh!

Does he get the card back if he's maneuvering me into dealing with it?

Yeah I guess so, but you must get some concession from him as well. Hint; I made my wifey a ham and egg omelet this morning to make up for being a Moron and getting drunk on a snoot full of bourbon last night.


Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 07:53 AM (/jbAw)

140

Looks like Oakland is having only a Cat I riot and looting instead of the predicted Cat V.

But it's not over yet.  Man it would suck to sit on a jury out there. 

Posted by: An Iota of a Cracker at July 09, 2010 07:54 AM (sOtz/)

141

Riots in my home town and a fatal duck boat accident in Philly.

Sigh.

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 07:56 AM (XdlcF)

142 I blog against common sense all the time.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at July 09, 2010 07:56 AM (ZESU0)

143 MamaAJ:

Vic named most of the stuff you'll need but a pocket knife and a pair of needle nose pliers come in handy. The pliers are for removing hooks and they make really nice ones especially for fishing. You'll also need some sinkers -- a variety pack of split shot will do. And I'd ditch the fish basket. I guess Vic uses them for his catch? I use a stringer. You can't beat live bait but skip the minnows, chubs, etc. unless you know how to use them.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 07:56 AM (7+pP9)

144 You'll love it here.

Yeah, so far we are feeling pretty chuffed about the whole thing... with the possible exception of what to do about our (only) car, a VW Eos convertible.  Mr. Y-not is planning on getting an AWD SUV, but we would like to keep the Eos if possible.  So we're going to try this winter and see how it does.  I've been reading good things on the Eos owner boards about how it handles on snow so I'm trying to remain optimistic that will snow tires and some common sense, it'll be ok.  If not, we'll probably have to trade it in for something more snow-friendly (probably can't afford three cars).  It's in cherry condition, 2 years garaged in SoCal with 8000 miles, so it should get a good trade-in in Southern Utah, I'd think.

The people have been delightful.  I interacted with a bunch of folks while looking for a house to rent and what a pleasure it was to feel like there was a common frame of reference in terms of the basics of politics and family life (even though we aren't LDS). 

They are not great drivers, however.  Lots of tailgating and people with trailers who don't know how to merge or stay in their lanes.  Shall I blame tourists for that?!  :-)

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 07:57 AM (HDip8)

145 LOL ham and cheese omelet; of course it has eggs. 

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 07:57 AM (/jbAw)

146 I posted about Justice Kennedy not retiring until Obama was out a few days ago in the ONT, but only the morons noticed, john_c.

Good news, eh?



Depends on whether you're more comfortable with Justice Kennedy making decisions based on the flip of a quarter.....or a JugEars-nominated Justice Harvey Dent making decisions based on the flip of his two-headed silver dollar.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 09, 2010 07:58 AM (P9+0W)

147

Then why am I pretty sure that I'm the only person in my family who doesn't vote democrat?

Recesive gene perhaps?

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 09, 2010 08:00 AM (e8T35)

148 Common sense in ancient Mexico was that unless you sacrifice people to the sun, it will get mad at you.  Common sense also said the earth was flat, and if you sailed too far, you'd fall off.

Posted by: Zuggs

Those were both features of a complex religion doctrine.  Hardly "common sense."

Common sense in ancient Mexico was that you don't piss off the people running the chop shop on the pyramid top.

Posted by: Annoying Pedantic Ass Guy at July 09, 2010 08:00 AM (ZESU0)

149 Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 11:56 AM (7+pP9)

Yeah I forgot the sinkers. Get a pack of small split ones and yes, pliers for squeezing the sinkers and removing hooks that get swallowed. BTW, if they are swallowing the hooks the hook size being used is too small.

And yes, I prefer the basket rather than the stringer. I prefer that in the case that you catch a couple and not enough to make a meal you can turn them lose undamaged.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 08:01 AM (/jbAw)

150 122 I think you can acquire a certain amount of "common sense" by developing skills in engineering and experimental science.  It teaches you to question assumptions, look at things critically, innovate and problem-solve, which are pretty key to common sense (particularly the first two). 

Posted by: Y-not at July 09, 2010 11:31 AM (HDip

 

Hmmm, perhaps ...., in which case mathematics would help, too. Maybe.

But in view of the frequency with which students flunk courses in chemistry, physics, algebra, trigonometry and calculus, because they didn't have the common sense to pay close attention to their teachers and to study their asses off diligently, your theory might be flawed. Good thought, though.

Posted by: Just a thought, or two at July 09, 2010 08:02 AM (sYrWB)

151

It's okay Vic, we all speak "hangover" here and can translate into English quickly and easily.

Well, I'm going to drag my sorry, sick behind to the store now. I'm going to bookmark this thread for the fishing tips! 

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 08:03 AM (XdlcF)

152 Yes, I would like to shop for personality, thank you.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 09, 2010 08:04 AM (M9BNu)

153

Posted by: Just a thought, or two at July 09, 2010 12:02 PM (sYrWB)

When I took algebra in HS, I passed, but probably with a 'C'. Took it again years later, and aced it.

Why? Two things I think. I was older, and far more interested in problem-solving then having just to pass a required class.

As they say, education is wasted on the young.

Posted by: HH at July 09, 2010 08:07 AM (6oDXl)

154

As for the beer making, I'm not in the mood for shelling out money for equipment right now. I'll stick with baking bread and making tortillas today!

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 09, 2010 11:50 AM (XdlcF)


Mama, are you doing one of the no-knead breadmaking methods? I rather like these folk's method.

www.artisanbreadinfive.com

Ignore the Wookie-love, but their actual breadmaking techniques are pretty cool, especially if you don't have lots of time to spare. I'm doing a loaf a week, it takes me longer to do the clean up than the actual hands-on work.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 09, 2010 08:09 AM (P9+0W)

155

Bass Pro Shops are an experience (a mighty cool one -- my eldest did her basic at FLW, and yeah, we all stopped at the StL BPS, awesome); I think Cabela's is a bit easier on the pocket book.

But the best place of all to go is the ma and pa shops, imho.  I never really have considered BPS's or Cabela's to be the best bargains out there.  Besides, you can't haggle.

Posted by: unknown jane at July 09, 2010 08:13 AM (5/yRG)

156 BTW, if they are swallowing the hooks the hook size being used is too small.

No, it means you're not setting the hook fast enough. There were only a few places I've been able to predict what size fish I was going to catch.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 08:15 AM (7+pP9)

157 I don't fish at pay ponds.

Posted by: Ed Anger at July 09, 2010 08:17 AM (7+pP9)

158 > 58 Does anyone want to touch that story on drudge about the euro liquefying human corpses and blending them with the sewage. Sort of like soylent green for plants. Posted by: Jean I thought about it but rejected it because A. It's already legal in 8 or so US states - so the psycho-Euro angle isn't there. B. The family has the option of getting the remains in a little box - just like a ashes from a cremation (and about the same size). C. I dispose of bodies in the sewer all the time and nobody complains. Was that last bit public?

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 09, 2010 08:21 AM (a9o5m)

159 C. I dispose of bodies in the sewer all the time and nobody complains.

Next time my tiolet backs up...

Posted by: HH at July 09, 2010 08:23 AM (6oDXl)

160 No, it means you're not setting the hook fast enough.

That too, but if the size is too small for the ones that are biting they will still swallow them. That is why you take multiple sizes and switch up if they are swallowing them and go down if they are nibbling the bait off without taking the hook (unless you have a mess of aggravating turtles)

No you never know what size will be biting on any given day or time.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 08:23 AM (/jbAw)

161

Is home-brewing more expensive than buying beer?

I'm on a kick of making things at home...if it's cheaper than buying it.

Oh, do it, either way.  Even if it's not cheaper, someone's gonna have to know how to make beer after the apocolypse.

Posted by: April at July 09, 2010 08:24 AM (b0THY)

162 > 84 What the heck is going on at mypetjawa? I try to visit the site,... Is it just me or is anyone else having that problem, too? Posted by: crosspatch Try a different browser. I keep a shortcut to Chrome on my desktop just so it's easy to check sites that look funny or don't work in my regular broswer (opera). Lots of stuff that breaks Opera works in Chrome.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 09, 2010 08:24 AM (a9o5m)

163 I don't fish at pay ponds.

???? I don't think there are any in this State unless you count the State Parks that you have to pay fee to enter.

Posted by: Vic at July 09, 2010 08:25 AM (/jbAw)

164

tiolet

It's the French spelling.

Really...

Posted by: HH at July 09, 2010 08:26 AM (6oDXl)

165 > Looks like Oakland is having only a Cat I riot and looting instead of the predicted Cat V. But it's not over yet. Man it would suck to sit on a jury out there. Posted by: An Iota of a Cracker That's why the trial was held in LA.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 09, 2010 08:28 AM (a9o5m)

166 You Might be a Cracker if ...You've ever been involved in a custody fight over a hunting dog.

Does hiding somebody's coonhounds and horses at your place while their divorce was going through count?

Posted by: unknown jane at July 09, 2010 08:33 AM (5/yRG)

167 I fish off the company pier all the time.

Posted by: don draper at July 09, 2010 08:45 AM (7b1Uc)

168

When I took algebra in HS, I passed, but probably with a 'C'. Took it again years later, and aced it.

Posted by: HH at July 09, 2010 12:07 PM (6oDXl)

 

Kudos. (Seriously, good for you.) Some students  took the same courses in college that they took in high school just to boost their grade point average in college.

Posted by: Just a thought, or two at July 09, 2010 08:48 AM (sYrWB)

169 Whoa, dude, that was a heavy thought. We'll have to ponder that one.

Sorry--I wasn't intending to be heavy.

Here's what I meant:  Rather than thinking of it as "common sense," I think of the more easily recognizable idea of people doing stupid things.

Doing something stupid is a behavior.

Being stupid is a trait.

There are people who are condemned to doing stupid things.  Whether this is because they are short on intelligence, foresight, or impulse control makes no difference.  I lump them together in the stupid-as-a-trait pile.  I was assuming that what you said about how schools do not offer courses on common sense was a recommended prescription for removing people from this pile through development.

My contention is that removing people from the stupid-as-a-trait pile is not the big problem.  The big problem is that the things we do as a society to assuage the suffering of the stupid-as-a-trait people perversely encourage stupid behavior from people who are not in that pile. 

One example that sticks in my memory is a guy I knew a long time ago.  He had his shit together pretty good--or so I thought.  One day at work, he was bitching that his wife had failed to pay a utility bill on time.  He said he was especially bent about it because they were working toward a home purchase and he was worried about what a late payment would do to their credit score.  During the course of commiserating and trying to assure him that it wasn't a big deal, he let slip that they used to habitually pay bills late, but they were trying to clean up their act in order to buy a house.

WTF?  I thought it was "common sense" for people to pay bills on time.  Apparently not so.  But it's worse than that.  Because the utility commissions cap late fees and burden service providers with onerous procedures for cutting services to help the stupid-as-a-trait people, this joker thought it was all right to procrastinate until his final cut-off notice before settling his bills.  I would bet that had he been hit with a huge late charge or returned home one night to a house without power, he would have never developed his stupid behavior habit.

Posted by: MikeO at July 09, 2010 08:57 AM (lBmZl)

170

FTA about the Marine's flying jeep, which actually sounds like it might, you know, work!

"...just shift into 'F' and press 'up'."

Now that's what I'm talkin' about!! America - fuck yeah!!

Posted by: sherlock at July 09, 2010 09:00 AM (xqzGc)

171 31 From March 01, 2009 but still relevant.  Compare and contrast. President Bush greeting Marines and his leave-taking from them. President Obama greeting Marines and his leave-taking from them.   Compare and contrast the Marines with the White House Press Corps.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at July 09, 2010 09:15 AM (ASdwP)

172

Sixty two people killed in the badlands of Pakistan today and to find it out I had to go to the world section.  I remember back in the good old days when twin suicide bombings anywhere in the world was big news.

Posted by: An Iota of a Cracker at July 09, 2010 11:18 AM (sOtz/)

173 Totally off-topic by now, but I'm pretty sure the missing cat thing in the sidebar is a real series of e-mails. The linked site has a bastardized version of the original with a link to the guy's site at the bottom; if you read some of his other stuff it's obvious he pulls similar stunts on a pretty regular basis.

Posted by: Joanna at July 09, 2010 11:36 AM (HaYO4)

174 MamaAJ:

Since it sounds like you've never gone fishing I'll give you lots of advice. It's something you have to learn to do but it's so much fun and such a "bonding experience" it's well worth the effort.

1st) Non- fishing gear. Clothing: Hats are a must. Sneakers are good shoes. Shirts and pants are up to you but since you'll prolly be in the sun a lot take that into consideration. I like long pants and sleeves that I can roll up but that's just me. Sunscreen and insect repellent are a must. So are food and liquor drinks. If you can't catch fish you can always have a picnic while trying.

2nd) Intelligence. Find out where what kind of fish are biting. Nobody (especially kids) likes getting "skunked". Somebody you know or his friend's friend should be able to divulge where you can catch something. Bluegills and sunfish are fine for the youngsters because they're easy to catch and provide lots of action. But you have to know how to handle them, something I'll cover later.

3rd) Fishing gear. Vic and I covered most of that. Spin cast reels are best for kids -- they have a funnel shaped front end and a thumb button. The rod shouldn't be much more than a foot longer than the height of a tyke but for older kids a six foot rod is fine. I guess the Zebco rod and reel combinations come with fishing line already loaded on them and six to eight pound test (breaking strength) is about right. If you have to load your own line Stren is a good brand. Run it through the line guides on the rod and the hole in the "funnel" (you'll have to unscrew it), tie it to the reel, and wind it up with somebody providing light tension on the line. Don't fill the really real full. With any reel you have to adjust the drag, a clutch that allows a 30 pound fish to pull your eight pound test line off the reel without snapping it. Your reel will have instructions on how to adjust it. It's not rocket science -- if you can pull on the line hard enough that it feels like it's stretching a lot you need to lower the drag.

So now you have the basics -- food and clothing, a place to fish and the fishing gear. Next:

4) Fishing. The easiest way to start kids fishing is bobber fishing from the shore of a lake or pond. In order to do this you have to be able to cast a fishing line. So take your Zebco out to a field and learn how to do it. An empty soccer field or large yard is a great place to learn. Since you're going to be using live bait you have to simulate casting with it. You have to cast live bait gently or it will fly off of your hook.

Place a small bobber on the line about 4' from the end. Bobbers have a top (white with a red button) end and a red bottom end. Press the edge of the button down and slip the fishing line underneath the brass hook. Then press the whole button down and slip the line under the bottom brass hook. Put a small (baby pea) sized piece of split shot at the end of the line and start practicing. You want to let out about three or four feet of line (minimum) from the reel using the thumb button, lock the line by pressing in the thumb button and with a smooth motion sweep the rod over your head, releasing the thumb button about 30 - 45 degrees past vertical. Don't snap the rod. It's kind of like riding a bike -- once you learn how to do it you'll never forget. Learning how to cast is probably the most fun part of learning to fish for kids. And it's an important skill to learn because nobody likes a hook in their ear.

So now it's time to tie a hook on the line and go fishing. There's a bajillion fishing knots but for small fish you don't need any mad knot skillz. Three or four tight knots will work fine, clipping off the extra line with some fingernail snips (an essential piece of fishing gear I forgot to mention earlier). Put a split shot about eight inches above the hook. The split shot holds the bait down and helps keep the hook from fouling in the line as you cast. Unless you're fishing in very shallow water, put the bobber at least three feet above the hook. Bait the hook, cast and wait. Reel in any slack line between you and your bobber. You do this by waiting for the bobber to settle down and slowly reeling in the line until the bobber moves a bit  in response.

When (and if) the fishies start paying attention to your bait you'll typically see your bobber travel and then start to bob. Don't do anything until the bobber goes underwater. And not just a few inches down and back up. You wait until it goes down! Then you SHARPLY pull the rod tip back as quick as you can, setting the hook in the fish's mouth. Then you reel it in and kill it and gut it and scale it and cook it and eat it. Or more likely put it on a stringer and do all that later.

Vic made a very good point about getting a variety pack of hooks because there's nothing more frustrating for a little kid than to see his bobber move around around all day and never being able to catch a fish. You might also have to move the bobber up and down to find the fish at the right depth.You might also need to use more weight to cast farther and therefore need to use a larger bobber. Sometimes you just have to move to another spot.

Some people like to introduce their kids to fishing on trout streams. I love stream fishing. If you want to try it don't use a bobber. You always cast downstream so the current doesn't wash your bait under rocks upstream where it gets trapped. And you have to pay very close attention to what's going on because your only clue of a fish nibbling on your bait is a tiny twitch on your pole. It's very popular here in Pennsylvania on opening trout day where people are shoulder to shoulder fishing on newly stocked streams. I consider it a form of mass insanity.

5) I caught one, what to do now? Okay, you've caught a fish. Most likely you didn't need a net for it. It was a little thing. A bluegill. So you grab it and THESE SPINES JABBED THE HELL OUT OF MY HAND!!!! Heh. You rubbed the fur the wrong way. Bluegills, sunfish, any kind of bass and most anything other than a trout has a spiny dorsal fin that will cause you lots of pain if handled incorrectly. Just like any woman, it has to be stroked the right way. So while it's dangling and thrashing on the end of the line you simply pass your hand over its head, compressing the dorsal fin FIRMLY against its body. Then you're in control.

6) Catfish and other critters. Catfish, prehistoric throwbacks, are fun to catch and great to eat but don't ever mess with them if you don't know how to handle them. They have very sharp spines on their dorsal and pectoral fins and will "horn" you with them given the slightest chance. The pain will last for hours. They thrash wildly after being caught in order to inflict maximum pain. Use your pliers to pick the fish up by the hook and shake it it off or simply cut the line. It'll survive. I once caught an 18" bullhead with six hooks in his lips and most of them were little more than rust.

Turtles. Snapping turtles can appear almost anywhere. I have genuine giant turtle stories I won't bore you with but they can bite your fingers off so just cut the line if you catch one.

Hellbenders. Another prehistoric type critter.They're like 18" long salamanders that can bite real hard. They mostly live in large rivers. Like snapping turtles, just cut the line if you catch one.

Now go out and enjoy the great outdoors!

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