August 18, 2010

Top Headline Comments 8-18-10
— Gabriel Malor


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Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 04:45 AM | Comments (207)
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Posted by: Dang Straights at August 18, 2010 05:03 AM (fx8sm)

2 What up?

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2010 05:03 AM (/jbAw)

3 slublog sent one of his lesser works. it just shows up as a red x in the top left corner, very post modernist.

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 05:06 AM (wuv1c)

4

I don't see anything.

 

Posted by: Learflyer at August 18, 2010 05:07 AM (5aVOy)

5 De. Laura is on her way out. Thats fine with me, I didn't like her, not even a little.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 05:07 AM (OlN4e)

6

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama earned his lowest marks ever on his handling of the economy in a new Associate Press Gfk, which also found that an overwhelming majority of Americans now describe the nation's financial outlook as poor.

A frustrated electorate could take it out on the party in power — Obama's Democrats — in the November elections.

Eleven weeks before the Nov. 2 balloting, just 41 percent of those surveyed approve of the president's performance on the economy, down from 44 percent in April, while 56 percent disapprove. And 61 percent say the economy has gotten worse or stayed the same on Obama's watch.

Don't they know that everything is Bush's fault? The car in (D) and (R), Barry is helping the economy by going on vacations, the 30 gazillion new jobs he's created or saved....ummm....they must all be racists. Yeah, that's it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2010 05:07 AM (1Jaio)

7

I see no-ting.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 18, 2010 05:08 AM (0fzsA)

8

you know, even if you believe that the Muslims have a legal right to build the mosque anywhere they want to, it seems you would be offended/alarmed/outraged that Nancy Pelosi wants to investigate persons with differing opinion.

my Congressman, Tom Perriello, Dem, 5CD Va, voted for this B*TCH as Speaker.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 18, 2010 05:08 AM (MEs24)

9 Crap. That's Dr. Laura.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 05:09 AM (OlN4e)

10

"The truth is, it's going to take a few years to fully dig ourselves out of this recession. It's going to take time to bring back 8 million jobs," the president said Tuesday while campaigning for Democratic candidates in Seattle. "Anybody who tells you otherwise is just looking for your vote."

 

Is Barry doing stand up comedy now?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2010 05:09 AM (1Jaio)

11

De. Laura is on her way out. Thats fine with me, I didn't like her, not even a little.

she's a conservative i think.

 

i heard the "rant" and i didn't see it as bad. She was just quoting rapper s and making the point that there is such a double standard with the n word.

It would be like if fuck was only a swear word when asians said it, but not when everyone else did.

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 05:09 AM (wuv1c)

12

Other than brand democrat being invisible - like that's not unexpected, and other than the fact that the dems still think Barry is incoherent, not a lot of news.  But here's a descent vid from Carl in Jerusalem:

http://tinyurl.com/232cgnx


 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 18, 2010 05:09 AM (RkRxq)

13 I saw the Pelosi note on Instapundit that Dang Straights cites.

Project much, Madame Speaker?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 18, 2010 05:10 AM (NvFZs)

14

she's a conservative i think.

She is considered one, but anyone who advises their women listeners to use every weapon in their arsenal to keep their husbands from going deer hunting with their buddies is a turd in my punch bowl.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 05:12 AM (OlN4e)

15 1
So.  Pelosi (*spit*) wants to investigate 9/11 families and anyone else who opposes the 911 Mosque.

I really hope this woman dies screaming.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 18, 2010 09:03 AM (fx8sm)


Can you fucking believe that this bitch wants to investigate those opposed to this victory mosque but won't investigate the financing behind it?  Pitchfork and torch anyone?

Posted by: Hedgehog at August 18, 2010 05:13 AM (oQIfB)

16 1

She's a real winner, eh? Maybe "the opposition" should all shoot her a copy of their tax returns.so she'll know the "source of funds" behind them. She'd get about 100 million e-mails.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2010 05:14 AM (Dxrgc)

17 Bobby Thomson, known for 'Shot Heard 'Round the World' home run, dies at 86

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 18, 2010 05:17 AM (zqzYV)

18

Tony Auth has an especially offensive cartoon in the Philadelphia Inquirer this morning.  It shows New York Harbor, with a white guy and an elephant sitting in a boat marked "GOP + TEA" celebrating in front of a Statue of Liberty wearing a KKK hood and robe marked "Religious Intolerance".  The caption says "That's more like it!"

Can these people be more tiresome?

Posted by: rockmom at August 18, 2010 05:18 AM (w/gVZ)

19

The Jonas Brothers are taking a swing at distracted driving.

The teen pop idols from Wyckoff, whose 2009 album “Lines, Vines, and Trying Times” hit No. 1 on the Billboard magazine album chart, will make their pitch for safe texting habits at a charity softball game in Newark on Monday.

So, here's something for New Jersey-ites to look forward to on Monday. Mark your calenders.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 18, 2010 05:19 AM (zqzYV)

20 Is it morning already? 

Scots on the cutting edge

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 05:19 AM (osFsP)

21

I saw Geitner speak on the Freddie and Fannie issue a couple of days ago and I had to laugh at how he spent a half hour saying that probably the biggest problem in our economy was that loans were made to people who couldn't pay them back without actually saying that the biggest problem in our economy was that loans were made to people who couldn't pay them back, thus saving face for the Dem corruptocrats who forced the economy into the mess that it's in.

You da man, Timmuh. 

Sorta related link: http://tinyurl.com/29ldrjb


 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 18, 2010 05:20 AM (RkRxq)

22 Thats fine with me, I didn't like her, not even a little

Neither do I. She strikes me as a shrill, judgmental shrew.

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 05:21 AM (osFsP)

23 And Nancy ensures that the hornet's nest kicked by His Emptiness keeps a buzzin' buzzin'.  They really are their own worst enemies...

Posted by: nickless at August 18, 2010 05:21 AM (MMC8r)

24 18

Tony Auth has an especially offensive cartoon in the Philadelphia Inquirer this morning.  It shows New York Harbor, with a white guy and an elephant sitting in a boat marked "GOP + TEA" celebrating in front of a Statue of Liberty wearing a KKK hood and robe marked "Religious Intolerance".  The caption says "That's more like it!"

Can these people be more tiresome?

Posted by: rockmom at August 18, 2010 09:18 AM (w/gVZ)

Why, yes we can.

http://tinyurl.com/233cpwp

Posted by: Liberal 1 at August 18, 2010 05:21 AM (zqzYV)

25 That Pelosi remark has made it to Politico.  This was on there too:

Ben did a great and smart post earlier about the Park51 Twitter feed, and some of the more interesting tweets coming from it - but it seems that may be a thing of the past.

Here are three Park51 tweets in the past hour:

Update: We are in the process of introducing a new team and are issuing apologies for any prior tweets that may have caused offense.

Note: we will be replacing one of the interns on the park51 account

We also will be focusing on engagement around questions on the project

-------

Read the comments.  Apparently, Politico removed the offending tweets from the original story.



Posted by: Tami at August 18, 2010 05:22 AM (VuLos)

26 Speaking of hornets nests... that's a fun way to spend three hours!

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 05:22 AM (osFsP)

27

A federal investigation of a controversial Arizona sheriff known for tough immigration enforcement has intensified in recent days, escalating the conflict between the Obama administration and officials in the border state.

Justice Department officials in Washington have issued a rare threat to sue Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio if he does not cooperate with their investigation of whether he discriminates against Hispanics The civil rights inquiry is one of two that target the man who calls himself "America's toughest sheriff." A federal grand jury in Phoenix is examining whether Arpaio has used his power to investigate and intimidate political opponents and whether his office misappropriated government money, sources said.

The Obozo administration's war against America continues

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2010 05:22 AM (1Jaio)

28 Ooops...forgot the Politico link.

http://tinyurl.com/265hybs

Posted by: Tami at August 18, 2010 05:24 AM (VuLos)

29

Release the CHAKRA!!!

http://tinyurl.com/2a6td6o


 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 18, 2010 05:24 AM (pr+up)

30 Stand up Chuck!

Posted by: Sherrif Joe at August 18, 2010 05:24 AM (oQIfB)

31 I love the word moderate. I apply it to everyone but the people I disagree with.

Posted by: The MFM at August 18, 2010 05:25 AM (eHo1W)

32

America Held Hostage:  Day 576

god we're not even halfway through.

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 05:26 AM (wuv1c)

33 Why time slows down in traumatic experiences... Explains why the past year and a half has dragged on so much!

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 05:28 AM (osFsP)

34 their women listeners to use every weapon in their arsenal to keep their husbands from going deer hunting with their buddies is a turd in my punch bowl. Posted by: maddogg

No idea what this deer thing is but you may be on to something.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at August 18, 2010 05:29 AM (oL8lS)

35

I actually hope the Tea party groups don't get involved in the Ground Zero Mosque issue.

They need to stick to fiscal issues. If i wanted a tit for tat organization i would be donating to the RNC. it is stupid issues like this that are a waste of time. The Tea Party needs to be above these issues of the week politics. They need to focus on the comin ecnomic collapse and cutting back spending.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 05:30 AM (wuv1c)

36 Dr Laura and Nanzi Pelosi in the news on the same day? Coincidence? I think not!

Two scrawny old whiners who have gotten much more attention and money than they deserve. Both use their big mouths to deliver sermons and deride anyone who dares agree with their narrow-minded views.

In honor of radio host Tom Leykis, who had a memorable bug up his butt with Dr Laura (I can still hear his "gobble-gobble" sound effect that was played every time he talked about the "Doctor" who had no degree in psychology or psychiatry but was free with her opinions on both), I hope she will have plenty of free time to "get it on like a hot warthog."

(Terrible image, that. Even though she didn't look too bad when youthful nekkid photos of her -- taken by another well-known radio personality -- surfaced many years ago.)

Mainly, I hope both Dr Laura and Nanzi Pelosi will soon sink into blessed obscurity.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2010 05:30 AM (Ulu3i)

37 I'm waiting for the fools in the CommieCrat party to jump the shark. There has to be a point where everyone in the country goes - WTF?

Between, the Mosque, Blago, Pelosi, Rangel, and Jugears.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 18, 2010 05:30 AM (zqzYV)

38

Tony Auth has an especially offensive cartoon in the Philadelphia Inquirer this morning.  It shows New York Harbor, with a white guy and an elephant sitting in a boat marked "GOP + TEA" celebrating in front of a Statue of Liberty wearing a KKK hood and robe marked "Religious Intolerance".  The caption says "That's more like it!"

Can these people be more tiresome?

Posted by: rockmom at August 18, 2010 09:18 AM (w/gVZ)

I think that fact that the "great uniter" has re-kindled racial strife in this country may possibly wind up back firing on the Dems and my actually wind up being a good thing.  It will cause Blacks and Whites both, to take a good serious look at the progress that has been made over the last several decades and force people to admit to the fact that the divide that existed before is nearly gone.  I think Blacks will finally see that the hand that the Dems had on their head, far from a hand of help and comfort, was a hand that was holding them down.  I hope anyway, that they will finally see that being dependent on the Dems was really no better than the slavery that they experienced a century and a half ago.  And that goes for the less affluent whites and other races as well.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 18, 2010 05:30 AM (RkRxq)

39 For those of you worried about the economy... Obama is on the job - Presenting the New International Reserve Currency.....Vegetables? Though maybe too much of that new currency is going to his cronies.... CSI Teamsters or Send in the Forensic Accountants

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2010 05:32 AM (I49Jm)

40 RE: Granny Commie-Botox...

Perhaps the demented old franken-hooker should become curious about the sources of funding for the non-mosque-mosque too. No? She's just interested in "investigating" American citizens for being antsy about what is pretty obviously a Muslim Brotherhood initiative to piss on us all. Well, how interesting.

Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at August 18, 2010 05:32 AM (k4bdL)

41 Reuters reports that Barney Frank said on Fox Business that he wants Fannie and Freddie abolished. A money quote: "There were people in this society who for economic and, frankly, social reasons can't and shouldn't be homeowners," Frank said. "I think we should, particularly, stop this assumption that you put everybody into homeownership." "Public policy has been too much to try to push people into homeownership."

Posted by: stuiec at August 18, 2010 05:33 AM (5UP6n)

42

Obama is on the job -

Oh yeah, LASER-like focus on jobs and all that.  Right.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 18, 2010 05:33 AM (fx8sm)

43 In honor of radio host Tom Leykis,

Couldn't you just have said in honor an infected cancer or somthing?

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at August 18, 2010 05:34 AM (oL8lS)

44 Style guide chapter 28: Use of the word "moderate" If a Democrat wants to describe himselfe as "moderate" or portray himself as one, even if he votes in lockstep with his Pelosi, who is a self described far left liberal, the word applies. For example, Obama brags about passing the most progressive legislation in generation but a Dem in a red district is in trouble for voting for it label him a moderate in all stories. Also the word "moderate" applies to anyone of foreign nature, even if they support terrorist groups such as Hamas as long as they haven't blown themselves up yet. Moderate shall apply to all peoples of islamic faith until they decide to explode. Moderate Taliban or moderate Hamas is allowed under the new style guidelines.

Posted by: The MFM at August 18, 2010 05:34 AM (eHo1W)

45 37

Oh for crying out loud. We can't walk and chew gum at the same time? It just so happens that there's a ton of overlap between the reasonable, patriotic people who oppose the mosque and the reasonable, patriotic people in the Tea Parties. We can probably handle the burden of a few additional blog discussions and cable TV talking head panels without disintegrating.
You should probably go do some extra of whatever it is you do that can't be distracted from, and we'll try to muddle along without ya'.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2010 05:34 AM (Dxrgc)

46 "Public policy has been too much to try to push people into homeownership."

Start looking for pods in Bawney's basement.

Posted by: nickless at August 18, 2010 05:35 AM (MMC8r)

47 Though maybe too much of that new currency is going to his cronies....

CSI Teamsters or Send in the Forensic Accountants

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2010 09:32 AM (I49Jm)

Err, remember who trucks those veggies. Wouldn't want anything to happen to them, ya know?




Posted by: Teamsters at August 18, 2010 05:35 AM (zqzYV)

48

Mainly, I hope both Dr Laura and Nanzi Pelosi will soon sink into blessed obscurity.

With luck, a house will fall on both of them.

Posted by: HH at August 18, 2010 05:37 AM (6oDXl)

49
"There were people in this society who for economic and, frankly, social reasons can't and shouldn't be homeowners," Frank said. "I think we should, particularly, stop this assumption that you put everybody into homeownership."

"Public policy has been too much to try to push people into homeownership."

Posted by: stuiec at August 18, 2010 09:33 AM (5UP6n)

Let me guess...no one challenged his statement, right?

Posted by: Tami at August 18, 2010 05:37 AM (VuLos)

50 44: I hope Barney's GOP opponent or one of the special interest groups quickly gets out a commercial showing Barney saying "Freddy and Fannie are fine etc etc" along with this new statement and exposing him as a flaming liar.

Posted by: Palerider at August 18, 2010 05:37 AM (FBj6Z)

51 48 37

Oh for crying out loud. We can't walk and chew gum at the same time? It just so happens that there's a ton of overlap between the reasonable, patriotic people who oppose the mosque and the reasonable, patriotic people in the Tea Parties.

I agree with Ben.  Sure, there may be overlap between the majority of tea partiers and the folks opposed to the death mosque, but the tea party movement branding should remain focused on fiscal issues.  Plus, I seriously doubt that all of the libertarian-leaning tea partiers are that worked up about the mosque.

It's not that "we" can't handle more than one issue, it's a matter of keeping the tea party brand effective by keeping it focused. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 05:37 AM (osFsP)

52 Not a surprise that Fran Nan wants to interrogate and persecute those opposed to the mosque. She is going to use federal law enforcement to investigate those she knows are opposed to her and her fellow politicians. Never mind where the money for the mosque is coming from, that question is "Un-American", but finding out the source of the funding (other than their own wallets) for those expressing their First Amendment rights, that's kosher.

What the fuck is wrong with Congress? How can she remain the speaker of the house when she wants to trample over U.S. Citizen's rights? I wonder what BHO's stance will be on this? He is a con law professor, he understand the implications of Nan's desire to persecute the opposition.

This is the perfect blunt object to beat libtards with. Bush never suggested that the government needed to investigate the source of funding for all of his critics.

Posted by: Penfold at August 18, 2010 05:37 AM (1PeEC)

53 "Young will have to change names to escape 'cyber past' warns Google's Eric Schmidt The private lives of young people are now so well documented on the internet that many will have to change their names on reaching adulthood, GoogleÂ’s CEO has claimed."Because anyone looking into your background would not know to look-up court records

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 18, 2010 05:38 AM (zqzYV)

54 From the China article - check out that economic ruler "There were, a few months ago, 64.5 million urban flats that showed no electricity usage for six consecutive months."

Posted by: Jean at August 18, 2010 05:38 AM (WHww9)

55 Remember that battery factory that Obama visited on Monday?

It turns out it's broke and living on government handouts.

Quite fitting:

We wonder who in government looked at ZBB's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Since going public in June of 2007, ZBB has been hemorrhaging money. The firm lost $4.9 million in fiscal 2008 and $5.5 million in fiscal 2009. In its most recent filing, in May, it said it had lost $6.9 million for the first nine months of its current fiscal year. It explained it had a "cumulative deficit" of $44.1 million and informed shareholders that it "anticipates incurring continuing losses." It acknowledged that its ability to continue as a "going concern" was predicated on its ability to drum up additional funds.

... Meanwhile, a review by the company's audit committee last fall discovered that ZBB's former CEO had been wrongly compensated as both an employee and an independent contractor, and that the company had failed to withhold his proper taxes. He stepped down, and the management team was reshuffled. ZBB was also forced to restate its financial results after a separate audit committee review found the company had recognized revenue from a contract in the wrong quarter.

The company also acknowledged in its May filing that the 72,000 square foot manufacturing facility it bought in 2006 is "currently producing at less than 10% of its expected capacity." That means it can't currently access the $14 million in federal tax credits, which were supposed to help with equipment for a new facility. Meanwhile, private investors have soured on some energy-storage companies. ZBB's initial public offering was priced at $6 a share in 2007, and it closed yesterday at 70 cents.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 18, 2010 05:39 AM (7+pP9)

56 caveat to style guide 28 Refer to all Republicans as conservative unless it is a week before or a week after a crucial vote on far left wing legislation and the Republican in question might vote for it. An exemption to this is given to any Republican that is a reliable vote for all left wing legislation. See moderate Olympia Snow

Posted by: The MFM at August 18, 2010 05:40 AM (eHo1W)

57 RASMUSSEN ANGLE 47 REID 47 W/ LEANERS ANGLE 50 W/ LEANERS REID 48 NOTE- RASMUSSEN STILL USING 2008 TURNOUT MODEL. First poll with Angle up in any category in over 1 month.

Posted by: CAC at August 18, 2010 05:40 AM (lV4Fs)

58 Ok, so it's the Enquirer, but it's a fun read....

Furious that her husband Barack Obama invited Oprah Winfrey to his Chicago birthday bash, first lady Michelle blew nearly half a million bucks on a shopping spree in Spain!

http://tinyurl.com/24u9rka

Posted by: Tami at August 18, 2010 05:41 AM (VuLos)

59

I just have a sense from this story that the headline would read better if it said,

"Despite the efforts of the NEA..."

http://tinyurl.com/285rksc


 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 18, 2010 05:41 AM (RkRxq)

60 57 radio great he just told them where to look

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 18, 2010 05:42 AM (eOXTH)

61 MyCarthism redux?

Posted by: Penfold at August 18, 2010 05:42 AM (1PeEC)

62 NOTE- RASMUSSEN STILL USING 2008 TURNOUT MODEL.

Methinks that should leave Angle with a comfortable lead.

Posted by: nickless at August 18, 2010 05:42 AM (MMC8r)

63 At least he didn't misspell potato. He would never live that down.

Posted by: DavidM at August 18, 2010 05:43 AM (R/e5b)

64 Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 18, 2010 09:38 AM

I've got an idea! Let's have a policy that all children are given numbers at birth, which they can exchange for the name of their choice when they reach Age 21.

Who knows...with luck, this might even cut down on the flood of batshit names deluded parents drop on their bamibini....

Posted by: formerly 67-CA-2904-1061Z at August 18, 2010 05:43 AM (Ulu3i)

65 54 44: I hope Barney's GOP opponent or one of the special interest groups quickly gets out a commercial showing Barney saying "Freddy and Fannie are fine etc etc" along with this new statement and exposing him as a flaming liar.

Posted by: Palerider at August 18, 2010 09:37 AM (FBj6Z)


Can you fucking believe this guy.  He is on record as saying (paraphrasing) that he would rather take a chance on housing than rein in Fannie and Freddie.  WTF?

Posted by: Hedgehog at August 18, 2010 05:44 AM (oQIfB)

66 Are the mosque opponents even organized enough to have funding? Methinks Nancy is getting spooked by shadows of the VRWC.

Posted by: Jean at August 18, 2010 05:44 AM (T5t8M)

67 "IÂ’ve used this analogy before. You had a group of folks who drove the economy, drove the country, drove our car into the ditch.... ...I would make this observation. When you are driving and you want to go forward, what do you do? You put your car in D. You want to go backwards? You put your car in R." I am guessing Barry has never driven into a ditch before. All the ditches I have ever driven into have been while in D. And I've gotten out in R.

Posted by: BigJon at August 18, 2010 05:45 AM (f3Tf1)

68 for those fearful Reid would exploit "decline to state"- Nevadans in the end RARELY give more than 1-2% to that category. If they hate him that much, they will just vote Angle rather than waste a category. 50-48-2 is reasonable, but Angle needs to use the main event (Labor Day to Nov 2) to kick Reid back down a few pts.

Posted by: CAC at August 18, 2010 05:45 AM (lV4Fs)

69 I am guessing Barry has never driven into a ditch before. All the ditches I have ever driven into have been while in D. And I've gotten out in R. Posted by: BigJon at August 18, 2010 09:45 AM

Comment o' the Day (so far)!

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2010 05:46 AM (Ulu3i)

70
Great op-ed reminds Bloomberg about the 1st amendment.

"Like free speech, a free press and the right to petition government for "the redress of grievances."

We'll be frank here. From the outset, we considered the decision to build a mosque and Islamic cultural center so close to Ground Zero to be at the least obnoxious, and at most an incitement.

But this has nothing whatsoever to do with the right of Muslims to build a mosque and worship there.

That is beyond question.

But that doesn't trump the right of others to question the means by which the mosque is to be..."



Olberdouche and Jonsin don't understand this at all.
You know - the free speech aspect.  Too busy navel gazing.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 18, 2010 05:49 AM (0fzsA)

71

Great video:

http://tinyurl.com/29yplcx

Really! Watch it... again, if you haven't seen it.

via Boker Tov Boulder

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 18, 2010 05:49 AM (RkRxq)

72

Because we're masochists, more notable Zero quotes:

"I'd want to be a really great President. And then I'd worry about all the other stuff. Because there are a lot of mediocre or poor Presidents."

"The time for change has come in one day's time. I have to say, by the way, I should just interrupt a moment to say that I've been campaigning a lot, because this morning I said the time for changed has come."

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors it's unbroken line of fallen heros-and I see many of them in the audience here today-our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

"I am new enough on the political scene that I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. As such, I am bound to disappoint some, if not all, of them."

"I didn't grow up in a religious household."

"They say I need to be seasoned; they say I need to be stewed. They say, "We need to boil all the hope out of him-like us-and then he'll be ready."

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

OK, we've had enough, for now...

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 05:51 AM (OlN4e)

73 Based on current polling, primary results, and generic ballot factor: Republican Senate Pickups (>99% confidence): Arkansas Indiana North Dakota Delaware Pennsylvania Republican Senate Pickups (>75% confidence): Colorado Republican Senate Pickups (>50% confidence): Illinois Nevada PURE TOSSUP: Wisconsin Washington Democratic Senate HOLDS (>50% confidence): Connecticut West Virginia Democratic Senate HOLDS (>75% confidence): New York Special Oregon DEM Senate HOLDS (>99% confidence): Hawaii New York Maryland Vermont All current GOP seats HOLD Republican total pickups 8.

Posted by: CAC at August 18, 2010 05:51 AM (lV4Fs)

74 woops...California is under Pure Tossup (thanks SurveyUSA and Field!)

Posted by: CAC at August 18, 2010 05:53 AM (lV4Fs)

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 18, 2010 05:54 AM (0fzsA)

76 #75

That's a keeper, but there are dozens of similar speeches where he articulates his vision of America. It is amazing that the left underestimated him so much. They really are stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (formerly NJConservative) at August 18, 2010 05:54 AM (LH6ir)

77

She is considered one, but anyone who advises their women listeners to use every weapon in their arsenal to keep their husbands from going deer hunting with their buddies is a turd in my punch bowl.

That's crazy.  I love it when my husband goes hunting.  Gets him out of the house on his day off.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 18, 2010 05:56 AM (hsBue)

78

That's crazy.  I love it when my husband goes hunting.  Gets him out of the house on his day off.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 18, 2010 09:56 AM (hsBue)

My wife puts deer hunting on her exhaustive list of what constitutes wife abuse. That way, she can claim abuse for damn near everything. I don't know how the poor woman has survived, much less put up with me, for 34 years.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 06:00 AM (OlN4e)

79
77
Only bad poll from yesterday was a PPP release on the Illinois race showing Broadway Bank Alexi up on Kirk, 37-35.


Isn't that Obama's old seat?  Figures that a mobster is in the lead.  Pathetic.
WT hell is wrong with Illinois?

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 18, 2010 06:02 AM (0fzsA)

80 20:  that's alcohol abuse.

Posted by: Kerry at August 18, 2010 06:04 AM (a/VXa)

81
75 - It is fabulous! Worth e-mailing to everyone we know.

Ace posted that a few days ago.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 18, 2010 06:05 AM (0fzsA)

82

From sidebar, Princess Leia accosted at Star Wars convention, rescued by Stormtroopers.

Teh funny: "I whirled around and elbowed whoever was behind me to find myself looking eye to eye with a glassy eyed very stocky mexican man. He spoke NO english and was NOT a Star wars fan..."

Posted by: Cincinnatus at August 18, 2010 06:05 AM (TGmQa)

83

I don't know how the poor woman has survived, much less put up with me, for 34 years.

Just need to be careful what you say and how you say it...

"It's hunting season again, dear".

Posted by: HH at August 18, 2010 06:06 AM (6oDXl)

Posted by: Justin Camp at August 18, 2010 06:06 AM (nF4Jh)

85 1
So.  Pelosi (*spit*) wants to investigate 9/11 families and anyone else who opposes the 911 Mosque.

I really hope this woman dies screaming.

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 18, 2010 09:03 AM (fx8sm)

As a former firefighter I get a little irritated when morons here say that someone should "die in a fire", but I wonder if Ms. Pelosi realizes that many of the people she is talking about here are firefighters and that, if she were in danger of dying in a fire, not one of them would hesitate to try to pull her out.

And not a single jihadist would hesitate to try to push her in.

Posted by: Nighhawk at August 18, 2010 06:06 AM (OtQXp)

86
yay Drudge.  The only media outlet brave enough to show the image of 9/11.

Nancy Pelosi demands an investigation, Olberdouche agrees.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 18, 2010 06:07 AM (0fzsA)

87 Actually, Radioactive, Teamsters have very little to do with hauling produce. Most of it is hauled by independents, small companies, and wholesalers. The union boys are mainly involved when it's moved from large grocery warehouses (Grand Union, Jewel, Safeway, etc.) to their company stores. Produce is some of the cheapest freight around and if you had to pay union scale to move it, you wouldn't afford to eat a lot of it.

Posted by: bigred at August 18, 2010 06:07 AM (cX9pO)

88 37

I actually hope the Tea party groups don't get involved in the Ground Zero Mosque issue.

They need to stick to fiscal issues. If i wanted a tit for tat organization i would be donating to the RNC. it is stupid issues like this that are a waste of time. The Tea Party needs to be above these issues of the week politics. They need to focus on the comin ecnomic collapse and cutting back spending.<<<Ben

Or maybe, since it's an organic movement, it ought to focus on wtf-ever it wants to, and not follow your particular star.

Posted by: Kerry at August 18, 2010 06:08 AM (a/VXa)

89

I think Blacks will finally see that the hand that the Dems had on their head, far from a hand of help and comfort, was a hand that was holding them down.  I hope anyway, that they will finally see that being dependent on the Dems was really no better than the slavery that they experienced a century and a half ago.

Really?

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2010 06:09 AM (dj6/4)

90 Julian Assange to meet with Army Officials, per FoxNews crawl...

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2010 06:10 AM (Dxrgc)

91 First they came for opponents to the mosque, but I said nothing because I'm a liberal douche.

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at August 18, 2010 06:11 AM (RgyHa)

92 #94

Big Red,

Lots of produce goes on the rails, especially long-haul from California to the east coast.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (formerly NJConservative) at August 18, 2010 06:13 AM (LH6ir)

93 I was listening to John Batchelor last night and he and his guests were discussing how the Obama administration thought that his Mosk comments on Saturday had hit the issue "out of the park". Within hours they found that the ball had rolled under the dug-out and couldn't be found. Really, you shouldn't be president if you and your elite ruling cabal have not the first clue about america.

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2010 06:14 AM (dj6/4)

94

Or maybe, since it's an organic movement, it ought to focus on wtf-ever it wants to, and not follow your particular star.

Posted by: Kerry at August 18, 2010 10:08 AM

It's an "organic movement" therefore "shut up?" 

I don't get it.  If the tea party has any meaning as a movement, doesn't it need to have a clear direction?  Isn't movement absent a direction flailing? 

Am I wrong about assuming that most libertarian-leaning participants in the tea party do not favor regulating what can be built on/near Ground Zero? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 06:14 AM (osFsP)

95 We say put that car in D all the way!!!

Posted by: Thelma & Louise at August 18, 2010 06:16 AM (RgyHa)

96 World's first 3-D porn film.

I keep thinking about the time I went to Sea World and saw Shamoo.  The people in the front row had rain ponchos to keep try when the killer whale splashed.  I think it would come in handy if you viewed this.

Posted by: Dave C at August 18, 2010 06:16 AM (W8f0O)

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2010 06:17 AM (Pm5H8)

98 So Nanny is going to have Harry Reid investigated? Or does she know he is only saying he wants the MOSK to be somewhere else because he knows he is going to get hammered if he doesn't?

Posted by: kansas at August 18, 2010 06:17 AM (mka2b)

99

if you and your elite ruling cabal have not the first clue about america.

An "elite ruling cabal" isn't America. There stems the problem.

Posted by: HH at August 18, 2010 06:18 AM (6oDXl)

100

Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Stocks dropped as a slide in oil prices dragged energy producers lower and results at Target Corp. and Deere & Co. disappointed investors, while a rally in government bonds drove the 30-year German yield below 3 percent for the first time on speculation economic growth is slowing.

Run for cover the non-existent recovery is slowing

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2010 06:22 AM (1Jaio)

101 106..

Why is it that you never hear of Libertarian candidates unless they are running against an incumbent Republican? 


I'm sure it's just me.

Posted by: Dave C at August 18, 2010 06:22 AM (W8f0O)

102 @8 "my Congressman, Tom Perriello, Dem, 5CD Va, voted for this B*TCH as Speaker." Since Tommy is the B*TCH of Soros, he was just supporting a fellow skuzzbucket. He still uses his Mom's address as his place of residence, despite the fact he hasn't lived in VA for years. While I am not thrilled with Hurt, I will do everything I can to get Tommy out of office.
Whatever happened to excommunication for going against the Catholic Church? Casey, Perriello, Biden, Pelosi, Stupak, Kennedy clan have all supported abortion, which last I checked, is a big no-no, but all you hear are *crickets*....

Posted by: Louie at August 18, 2010 06:25 AM (DTfXb)

103 Why is it that you never hear of Libertarian candidates unless they are running against an incumbent Republican?

Umm..because the MSM controls the reporting and they want to see the Republican embarrassed?

Plus, isn't Duncan Hunter regarded by the Left/MSM as "especially kooky"?  They have it in for him.

Posted by: chemjeff at August 18, 2010 06:27 AM (Pm5H8)

104 ALBANY, N.Y. – A majority of New Yorkers remain opposed to a mosque proposed as part of a planned Islamic cultural center near ground zero and the issue will be a factor for many voters this fall, according to a statewide poll released Wednesday.

The Siena College poll showed 63 percent of New York voters surveyed oppose the project, with 27 percent supporting it. That compares with 64 percent opposed and 28 percent in favor two weeks earlier, results that are within the polls' sampling margins.


- Keep pushing your side, Andy.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 18, 2010 06:29 AM (PWj+8)

105 Charlie Brown, that is true. Budd is one of the big names in that. Used to see their trailers when I ran the rail yards in Chicago. But over the road hauling is still the greater part of moving produce and Teamsters are not that involved with it. If you really want to see produce moving, head north on the New Jersey Turnpike at 3am. on a monday morning. Reefers 3 lanes wide, bumper to bumper. And keep moving, otherwise you'll just be a greasy spot on the pavement.  

Posted by: bigred at August 18, 2010 06:30 AM (cX9pO)

Posted by: diþ beyazlatýcý at August 18, 2010 06:33 AM (AnOMr)

107 20 Is it morning already? 
Scots on the cutting edge.

And I thought Irish Coffee was a waste of good whiskey. At least we can drink it.

Posted by: real joe at August 18, 2010 06:33 AM (IpIBJ)

108

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 09:51 AM (OlN4e)

Keep them coming.  I started a new game on my Facebook using the quotes you posted.  We are having a lot of fun with it.

Posted by: jewells at August 18, 2010 06:34 AM (l/N7H)

109

So get this, Althouse links Ace's post about the Emily's list ad.  Apparently his top 10 list is despicable, despicable I tell you!

" I thought the ad was charming and well done. Ace does a "Top 10" list of problems the ad, and the #1 thing wrong with the ad is: "Wicket just emailed me to say only one was worth 'nutting on.'" Nutting on, i.e., ejaculating on. Yeah? That's how you criticize women? They aren't good enough for you to ejaculate on? Despicable."

She did everyone the common courtesy of linking urban dictionary for "nutting on".

Apparently, she's serious.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 18, 2010 06:34 AM (fLHQe)

110 Why is it that you never hear of Libertarian candidates unless they are running against an incumbent Republican?

Umm..because the MSM controls the reporting and they want to see the Republican embarrassed?
Plus, isn't Duncan Hunter regarded by the Left/MSM as "especially kooky"?  They have it in for him.
Posted by: chemjeff

MSM? And what of "conservative" blogs' coverage of Libertarians? Not pleasant.

Posted by: Memory at August 18, 2010 06:35 AM (H+LJc)

Posted by: sTevo at August 18, 2010 06:35 AM (MrtY5)

112 büyütücü hap

No speaking ewok in the spam!!!

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 18, 2010 06:35 AM (Dxrgc)

113 119

So get this, Althouse links Ace's post about the Emily's list ad.  Apparently his top 10 list is despicable, despicable I tell you!

" I thought the ad was charming and well done. Ace does a "Top 10" list of problems the ad, and the #1 thing wrong with the ad is: "Wicket just emailed me to say only one was worth 'nutting on.'" Nutting on, i.e., ejaculating on. Yeah? That's how you criticize women? They aren't good enough for you to ejaculate on? Despicable."

She did everyone the common courtesy of linking urban dictionary for "nutting on".

Apparently, she's serious.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 18, 2010 10:34 AM (fLHQe)

Well, that's how I would rate women that decide they need to wear fake-fur Ewok costumes to make vapid points about Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 18, 2010 06:37 AM (PWj+8)

Posted by: Dang Straights at August 18, 2010 06:38 AM (fx8sm)

115

Oh for crying out loud. We can't walk and chew gum at the same time? It just so happens that there's a ton of overlap between the reasonable, patriotic people who oppose the mosque and the reasonable, patriotic people in the Tea Parties. We can probably handle the burden of a few additional blog discussions and cable TV talking head panels without disintegrating.
You should probably go do some extra of whatever it is you do that can't be distracted from, and we'll try to muddle along without ya'.

You're right, but the Tea Party needs to be focused on fiscal issues. That was the point of the movement in the first place, it shouldn't become an arm of the republican party that weighs in on meaningless issues and alienates people who might be sympathetic to their fiscal message.

You don't hear the NRA, Emily's List, or Pro-Life groups putting out statements on the Ground Zero mosque. The Tea Party needs to be a one issue group, and its issue should be fiscal in nature.

That's all. If you want a statement on every issue of the day, you've got political parties for that.

I don't want the Tea Party to be an arm of the Republican party, I want the Tea Party to be a check on the Republican party's tendency to be big spenders.

While I agree with Ace and everyone here on this issue, i was simply pointing out that the Tea Party needs to stick to its message and not become involved in the petty social issues.

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Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 06:39 AM (wuv1c)

116 I addition to his "brilliance" another false spin on Obama- he was NOT a constitutional law professor. He was an adjunct guest lecturer who showed up a couple of times to burnish his CV. Adjunct is college speak for unpaid.

Posted by: Louie at August 18, 2010 06:40 AM (DTfXb)

117 Adjunct is college speak for unpaid time-slot fillers.

Posted by: Cicero at August 18, 2010 06:43 AM (0pBLV)

118

So get this, Althouse links Ace's post about the Emily's list ad.  Apparently his top 10 list is despicable, despicable I tell you!

" I thought the ad was charming and well done. Ace does a "Top 10" list of problems the ad, and the #1 thing wrong with the ad is: "Wicket just emailed me to say only one was worth 'nutting on.'" Nutting on, i.e., ejaculating on. Yeah? That's how you criticize women? They aren't good enough for you to ejaculate on? Despicable."

She did everyone the common courtesy of linking urban dictionary for "nutting on".

Apparently, she's serious.

Remember Ace's mission statement. This is the place for skeevy and edgy conservatism

also, you don't have to worry about nutting on emily's list women, you can be sure no kids will come as a result

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 06:43 AM (wuv1c)

119 twit on twitter.

tryin this thing out.

Posted by: sTevo at August 18, 2010 06:44 AM (MrtY5)

120 büyütücü hap


Some kind of Lovecraftian incantation. Just don't say it out loud.

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at August 18, 2010 06:44 AM (gQLr2)

121

"That's how you criticize women? They aren't good enough for you to ejaculate on? Despicable."

"Pity-Ejaculation" is just wrong.  Wicket did the right thing.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at August 18, 2010 06:45 AM (HaYO4)

122 Who is Ann Althouse and why should I give a nut what she thinks?

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 06:47 AM (OlN4e)

123 You're right, but the Tea Party needs to be focused on fiscal issues. That was the point of the movement in the first place, it shouldn't become an arm of the republican party that weighs in on meaningless issues and alienates people who might be sympathetic to their fiscal message.

But 70% of people  agree with the position that the mosque location is wrong. My suspicion is that the 30% that don't are pretty much the same 30% of nutballs that want daddy government to rule them cradle to grave, think the tea party is "racist", and believe there is a such thing as a "Christianist".

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 18, 2010 06:48 AM (xKP7n)

124 Ah, Jeez. He's on my TV again. Every damn morning it starts out as a beautiful day, can of diet Pepsi, cigarettes, and AOS, then that SOB comes on and it might as well rain.

Posted by: bigred at August 18, 2010 06:51 AM (cX9pO)

125 Dino Rossi is on the ballot in Washington State. It looks like we may pick up another senate seat.

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 06:52 AM (wuv1c)

126 126 I addition to his "brilliance" another false spin on Obama- he was NOT a constitutional law professor. He was an adjunct guest lecturer who showed up a couple of times to burnish his CV. Adjunct is college speak for unpaid.

I'm sorry, but you're mistaken.  Obama is an intellectual lightweight and no scholar (as evidence by his lack of scholarly output during and after law school and his pretty unimpressive stint practicing the law), but the U of C issued a statement long ago explaining Obama's appointment(s) (the progression of appointments he held there) at the law school.  They made it very clear that they considered him to be a member of the faculty and also that they had inquired about his interest in becoming a "regular" tenure-track faculty member.

Also, I think you're mistaken about "adjunct".  Although in many/most disciplines (mine happens to be science) adjunct does sort of carry a negative connotation, in the case of professional schools, like law schools and business schools, adjunct slots are used to bring in people with non-traditional academic backgrounds.  Often, they are folks who have actually been working in their fields, not just sitting in the ivory tower of academe.  It's actually a really good idea, imho, and one that would benefit the less applied academic disciplines. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 06:53 AM (osFsP)

127

128, I thought "nutting" was a brilliant turn of phrase and giggled rather heartily, but than again I enjoy midget pron, beer and pizza so ehat do I know.  

These people take themselves waaaay tooo seriously. fer sure/

   

Posted by: dananjcon at August 18, 2010 06:53 AM (pr+up)

128 I know, I am so damn sick of the "constitutional law professor" bullshit.  Obama was a token who was thrown a few lectures to see if he was worth hiring as a fulltime professor to improve the racial diversity of the faculty at Chicago.  Apparently he wasn't.  I have yet to see a single quote from any student of his classes about how he taught or even what he taught.  And we still haven't seen his transcripts from Harvard Law.  I'm guessing the reason why is that he never even took constitutional law, or if he did, he barely passed it.  If that were revealed publicly they would have to stop all this "constitutional law professor" crap because it would be obvious that he was an affirmative-action unpaid lecturer with no qualification to teach con law.

Posted by: rockmom at August 18, 2010 06:55 AM (w/gVZ)

129

Whatever happened to excommunication for going against the Catholic Church? Casey, Perriello, Biden, Pelosi, Stupak, Kennedy clan have all supported abortion, which last I checked, is a big nono, but all you hear are *crickets*....
Add Moran, Tim Kaine, and Mark Warner to that list.

However, The Catholic Church does not "excommunicate" people for "going against" it. Formal excommunication has always been reserved for heresy--ususally public teaching of doctrine in opposition to that of the Church. That too is usually reserved for those who have been ordained, counseled, punished, warned, etc. Excommunication is not a light matter that is ever done outside of the Vatican and even then very very rarely.

Besides, these hypocrits have effectively excommunicated themselves. They are "out of communion" with the Church, in a state of mortal sin. If they accept the eucharist in that state they are committing a greater sin akin to rape of Christ. They know they have excommunicated themselves and I assume are hoping they live long enough to recant and atone.

 

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2010 06:55 AM (dj6/4)

130 Greetings, all.  More stupidity from Savannah, courtesy of this morning's rag:

Republicans are the root of all evil

The Republicans have sunk to an all-time low, not only are they the party of "no" they are the party of selfishness, callousness and thoughtlessness.  It has become obvious that they have complete contempt for the less than privileged.

Their thirst for power has completely blinded them and they have turned their back on the American people, all for some stupid political gain.  Our people are struggling, they are out of work, losing there (sic) homes, splitting up; they are cash strapped and up to their necks in debt.

Those who are working are working harder and for less money.  Many have lost there (sic) medical benefits and retirement, some of us are working two or three jobs.  It seems that the Republican Party doesn't want you to have medical insurance nor do they want you to have a job, a family, choose your friends or worship where you want or live where you choose.

This has become obvious by there (sic) complete lack of conscience and disregard for the American people.  They offer nothing but criticism and not constructiveness.  Soon they will be the party of no-existence.

David Peterson
(maroon)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 18, 2010 06:55 AM (UOM48)

131 the Tea Party needs to stick to its message and not become involved in the petty social issues.

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Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 10:39 AM

IMO, the Tea Party movement has three "issues:"

1. Defending the Constitution as the essential framework of the nation;
2. Fiscal responsibility in government;
3. America first (not in the isolationist sense, but in the sense that we and our politicians need to do what's right for the USA before worrying about what's happening elsewhere).

BTW, why in God's name is Fucks News wasting time on going "live" to yet another Osama Obama campaign speech filled with lies, misstatements and plain old bullshit? Any competent editor could cut his "message" (in fact, all of his speeches could be reduced to a single generic clip) down to a three-second sound-bite, thus saving the country untold pain.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2010 06:57 AM (Ulu3i)

132 The real travesty. Drudge posted another picture of that woman. Drudge is just being cruel now. Matt should precede these photos with a warning to parents to protect their children from the shock and trauma.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 18, 2010 06:57 AM (uiyhQ)

133

140 You have to taken constitutional law, at least one course, first year, to get through law school.

I would also like to see evidence of his dating, going out with, or even looking at a woman/girl before the wookie. Just one. Ever.

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2010 06:57 AM (dj6/4)

134 I think the tea party should hold a bacon (or ham or pork ribs....) lovers street fair outside the old Burlington coat factory on a weekly basis.

Posted by: Palerider at August 18, 2010 06:58 AM (PxVrQ)

135 I thought the ad was charming and well done.

Translation: Althouse is a numbskull.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 18, 2010 06:59 AM (wRH1k)

136 Slublog misspelled Joe Bite-Me.

Posted by: Reiver at August 18, 2010 07:00 AM (64S5N)

137

she's a conservative i think.

She is considered one, but anyone who advises their women listeners to use every weapon in their arsenal to keep their husbands from going deer hunting with their buddies is a turd in my punch bowl.

maddogg, just do your thing and then you can go.  If you have to resort to the little blue pills then so be it.

Posted by: Decaf at August 18, 2010 07:00 AM (NooBZ)

138 Translation: Althouse is a numbskull

She certainly lets her opinions be shaped by her ovaries, in any event.  Sort of the corollary to men thinking with their penises. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 07:00 AM (osFsP)

139 I thought the Tea Party was a group of like minded individuals, not a monolithic political party... those who want to speak out against the victory mosque, God bless 'em. Those who don't, ditto.
The left wants the Tea Party to be an organization run from the top down so they can cut off the head with a real or fake scandal. So far they have been frustrated.

Posted by: real joe at August 18, 2010 07:01 AM (IpIBJ)

140

 

mornin dildos & dildettes

Posted by: big bird at August 18, 2010 07:01 AM (uFokq)

141 Yes, palerider, and beer. Served by topless waitresses with big hooters.

Posted by: bigred at August 18, 2010 07:02 AM (cX9pO)

142
It's an "organic movement" therefore "shut up?"  <<<Y-not

No, you don't have to shut up.  Just deal with the fact that you are not going to manage a movement you didn't create.  The tea party is not libertarian, large or small L.

>>I don't get it.  If the tea party has any meaning as a movement, doesn't it need to have a clear direction?  Isn't movement absent a direction flailing?  <<

Who says it doesn't have a clear direction?  It seems to be trending fiscal AND social conservative.  The fact that you don't agree with half its tenets doesn't mean it doesn't have direction, it just means you're nail-chewing over the fact that the car isn't necessarily only stopping where you want it to.  Any large group of people has multiple concerns, all of which you cannot possibly share.  I mean, I get worked up over the Republicans, but I realize I cannot have all my ideals served by any national party.

>>Am I wrong about assuming that most libertarian-leaning participants in the tea party do not favor regulating what can be built on/near Ground Zero? <<

Libertarians favor dope and cheapness, and that's about the extent to which they are willing to exert themselves.   Those who participate in the tea party movement are, of course, free to not participate in any attempt to protest the mosque, but it would strike me as peculiar to protest the protest.  Splitters.

Posted by: Kerry at August 18, 2010 07:02 AM (a/VXa)

143

but the U of C issued a statement long ago explaining Obama's appointment(s) (the progression of appointments he held there) at the law school.  They made it very clear that they considered him to be a member of the faculty and also that they had inquired about his interest in becoming a "regular" tenure-track faculty member

Wouldn't it be in their interest to treat him as worthy regarless of his abilities as soon as he became a playa in the machine?

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2010 07:02 AM (dj6/4)

144 151 I thought the Tea Party was a group of like minded individuals, not a monolithic political party... those who want to speak out against the victory mosque, God bless 'em. Those who don't, ditto.

Sure, individuals can speak out.  They just shouldn't use the "Taxed Enough Already" banner to give weight to their opinions. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 07:02 AM (osFsP)

145 Often, they are folks who have actually been working in their fields, not just sitting in the ivory tower of academe.  It's actually a really good idea, imho, and one that would benefit the less applied academic disciplines. 
Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 10:53 AM

Nothing more "non-traditional" than having an inexperienced lefty loon with no known credentials and no known knowledge of the subject being brought in to teach, is there?

You're right, of course, Y-not, but there are limits to the value of dragging in pampered radical buffoons to impart their so-called wisdom, and Osama Obama was way  beyond those limits.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2010 07:03 AM (Ulu3i)

146

IMO, the Tea Party movement has three "issues:"

1. Defending the Constitution as the essential framework of the nation;
2. Fiscal responsibility in government;
3. America first (not in the isolationist sense, but in the sense that we and our politicians need to do what's right for the USA before worrying about what's happening elsewhere).

I agree. And for that very reason they shouldn't be involved in these issues of the day, week or month.

They have nothing to gain from it.  It would be like if the NRA came out for a pro life issue, or NOW came out for a pro gun issue. It just alienates a part of your base with no benefit.

Sure, i bet the tea party is 80% conservatives who vote republican, but i am willing to bet a lot of them are balanced budget democrats who don't know what happened to their party, or independents who vote with their wallet but  loathe social and petty political issues.

There is no benefit from getting involved is my point.

Leave this issue to the networks, and political parties. They have it covered.

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 07:03 AM (wuv1c)

147 #146

If they do, it should be every friday.

Posted by: GMan at August 18, 2010 07:04 AM (sxq57)

148 Sarah and Todd take Greta to ANWR.  Good video...imho.  It's about 11 mins. long. (it seems weirdly cut off at the end to me)....

http://tinyurl.com/2efs6fm

Posted by: Tami at August 18, 2010 07:04 AM (VuLos)

149

 I thought the Tea Party was a group of like minded individuals, not a monolithic political party... those who want to speak out against the victory mosque, God bless 'em. Those who don't, ditto.

Sure, individuals can speak out.  They just shouldn't use the "Taxed Enough Already" banner to give weight to their opinions. 

EXACTLY.

If you want to speak out. great. do so.

but i am seeing articles and people who have the "Tea Party" attached to their title making these statements. Say it as an individual, don't try to use the clout of the Tea Party to give your words greater weight or importance.

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 07:04 AM (wuv1c)

151

They made it very clear that they considered him to be a member of the faculty and also that they had inquired about his interest in becoming a "regular" tenure-track faculty member.

And you believe that bullshit?  Why?  Obama is U of C's most famous former employee.  Of course they are going to cover his ass - and their own - and claim that they had invited him to join the faculty and he turned them down.  It's part of the whole made-up narrative of Obama's life that he rejected the easy path, first of corporate law and then of academia, to be a community organizer and social-justice crusader.  The reality is more likely that he was always an overrated jackass who couldn't hack it in private law practice, couldn't teach very well either, and was forced to rely on the kindness of white liberals like Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers to get him jobs.

Obama is the only known president of the Harvard Law Review who was not offered a Supreme Court clerkship.  Anyone ever wonder why?  Maybe he actually had to give up the transcripts to the Court and they realized he was an average student at best and incapable of doing SCOTUS level clerk work?

Posted by: rockmom at August 18, 2010 07:05 AM (w/gVZ)

152 Who says it doesn't have a clear direction?  It seems to be trending fiscal AND social conservative.

How is the placement of a mosque at Ground Zero either a fiscal or a social issue?

And, just to be clear, I'm not a libertarian or even libertarian-leaning. 

"TEA" stands for Taxed Enough Already.  The movement should stick with that mission.  It's simply good organizational management to have mission and a vision and stick with that. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 07:05 AM (osFsP)

153

Who says it doesn't have a clear direction?  It seems to be trending fiscal AND social conservative

Kerry, so the Tea Party is just the Republican Party essentially?

 

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 07:06 AM (wuv1c)

154

Not a surprise that Fran Nan wants to interrogate and persecute those opposed to the mosque.

Penfold, no, no surprise.  Nancy is, according to her own Word, a greater authority on religion than the Pope. 

Sarcasm aside, I bet the Pope knows more about the US law than she does.

Posted by: Decaf at August 18, 2010 07:07 AM (NooBZ)

155 Yeah? That's how you criticize women? They aren't good enough for you to ejaculate on? Despicable."


No that isn't how you criticize women. It's how you criticize ugly women.

Posted by: Rocks at August 18, 2010 07:09 AM (Q1lie)

156

 

Speaking of China...

I have no evidence, just a hunch, that China no longer has a billion people. I think China is leaner and meaner than ever and they're keeping it a secret.

If the birth rate is <1, (and they're probably thinning out the herd by eliminating the eledely and sick), their population should rapidly dwindle, yes?

Posted by: big bird at August 18, 2010 07:09 AM (uFokq)

157 138- I meant no disrespect to adjunct faculty- my husband was an adjunct at Wharton when we lived in PA. You mention the statement by U of Chicago in regards to his "employment" there. Is this the same U of Chicago the gave the wife of the new Senator from Illinois a new title with a significant salary increase? A job that disappeared when she left for Washington? Yes, I absolutely believe in the integrity of the U of Chicago in regards to anything Obama.

Posted by: Louie at August 18, 2010 07:09 AM (DTfXb)

158 Obama was clearly given his appointment based on his political connections and his race.  His Harvard Law degree merely gave them the top cover to do it.  No doubt about it.   And, yes, he was obviously pursued by them for a tenure track slot for the same reasons. 

But it's not accurate to say he was a toss away adjunct when he rose to Senior Lecturer and the depiction of "adjuncts" in professional schools as being equivalent to temporary lecturers who teach big classes on short notice is inaccurate.  

A long time ago I did a check of the tenure requirements for law schools.  There's not much publicly available, but I found the requirements for a much lower ranked law school (I forget which one) and Obama wasn't even coming close to their requirements. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 07:11 AM (osFsP)

159 Who is Ann Althouse and why should I give a nut what she thinks? She's a concern troll who gets wiggy sometimes and can't hide the atavistic impulses that make her a lefty. Weigel with 10% less of a penis.

Posted by: oblig. at August 18, 2010 07:13 AM (x7Ao8)

160 Y-not, the ONLY commenter who said "the depiction of "adjuncts" in professional schools as being equivalent to temporary lecturers who teach big classes on short notice is inaccurate." was you.

Posted by: Louie at August 18, 2010 07:15 AM (DTfXb)

161 Umm..because the MSM controls the reporting and they want to see the Republican embarrassed?
Plus, isn't Duncan Hunter regarded by the Left/MSM as "especially kooky"?  They have it in for him.
Posted by: chemjeff


Yeah, I should have specified that I was being rhetorical..   

Posted by: Dave C at August 18, 2010 07:16 AM (W8f0O)

162 Mosque Developer Rejects Meeting With Paterson:

AP/NBCNewYork:

The developers of an Islamic cultural center that would include a mosque near Ground Zero have rejected Gov. David Paterson's offer to help them find a different site.

Paterson said today the group is apparently committed to building in the proposed site. "I think they would like to stay where they are, and I certainly respect that and I certainly respect them,"  Paterson said.

But, Paterson said the dialogue would have been useful as the project has ignited nationwide debate over freedom of religion and anger over the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.. "Having said that, how much more foresighted would it have been if the Imam who is the developer of the project had been willing to hear what we are actually talking about?"

http://tinyurl.com/28jahth


Posted by: Tami at August 18, 2010 07:16 AM (VuLos)

163 To: Ann Althouse. I've seen your picture, and if it's any consolation, I'm sure Ace would be happy to nut on you. Just shoot him an email.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 07:17 AM (OlN4e)

164

I am not sure Dr. Laura was a political conservative, she was more of a moral scold (not that there is anything wrong with that) so people lumped her in there. 

I used to listen because it was entertaining to hear dumbasses call and have her eviscerate them but it grew tired after a couple of weeks - what kind of dumbass would call her up to get her to agree with their dumbassery?  Hey, Dr. Laura, I was thinking of sleeping with my brother-in-law because he seems really nice after getting out of jail can you help solve my moral delimma? 

Seriously? 

At any rate, funny how libs get over on their mistakes because of the "good they do" (kill a woman?  No worries, because you help us kill babies!)  and conservatives get their good cancelled out by their mistakes. 

Why do we allow ourselves to get played by these rules?

Posted by: blaster at August 18, 2010 07:17 AM (MrMxG)

165 Whatever, Louie.  I guess teaching a couple of classes unpaid is what you said.  Fine.

I don't understand why we're arguing.  We agree that he was an affirmative action appointee.  However, I think it hurt the case to promulgate the inaccurate store that he was an unpaid adjunct lecturer when he was actually a senior lecturer who was offered a tenure track slot. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 18, 2010 07:18 AM (osFsP)

166

Do you want the Tea Party to run candidates in national and local races? If so, don't you think that they need to express their opinions on issues on more than just Tax Enough Already?  If not, then I would agree that a single focus is appropriate.

no i don't want them to run candidates. As i said above, i want them to be a check on the Republican Party's tendency to become big spenders once they win, and maybe even the democrats to an extent.

That is why i think we don't need people who claim they are the official tea party this or that weighing in on every issue every day. it deflects from what the message should be. government spending and high taxes

 

Posted by: Ben at August 18, 2010 07:18 AM (wuv1c)

167 Obama was clearly given his appointment based on his political connections and his race.  His Harvard Law degree -- which was almost certainly awarded for the same reasons -- merely gave them the top cover to do it.

Little clarity added there. So far as anyone knows, Harvard could have mailed him his degree for a $10 donation and a coupon clipped from a cheap magazine, the same way some people get their phony D.D."degrees."

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2010 07:19 AM (Ulu3i)

168 To be fair, Joe Biden meant to use the three-letter word "work" instead of "jobs".

Posted by: andycanuck at August 18, 2010 07:20 AM (xmEXV)

169 RE: Cordoba House/Park51

Over at the Corner, the Goldberg unit has a nice point that the entire issue shows that really, this is a tolerant country. (I'd link, but really am too stupid to figure out tinyurl.)

And I think this American willingness to live and let live is part of what is driving their opposition to this project: In their hearts they have this sneaking suspicion that when it comes to Cordoba House, that tolerance to build--however reluctantly that toleration may be given--is going to be used by folks who, when the shoe is on the other foot, have no intention of ever returning the favor. And it kind of grates.

Or as the moderate Muslim, whose name I cannot remember, said-- mischief making. And most of America thinks so--or at least feels so,  in addition to the feeling that the place to rehabilitate your honor while exalting your glory is probably not the place where it was disgraced to start with.

I hazard that a majority of Americans are tired of having our noblest ideas seeming to be nothing but one-way check valves that allow flow only in the direction of increased multi-culturalism and non-free enterprise economics. The people who have always pleaded for "sensitivity" about historical events are going to have trouble explaining why the concept should be jettisoned now (not that I have ever really embraced said concept. My opposition arises because I truly think it is mischief-making).

Or in other words, the place to have a "state's rights" study center is not on the side of the Edmund Pettis Bridge--regardless if Federalism is a worthy subject of study in and of itself. Because why would you be motivated to put one there?

Posted by: Horatius at August 18, 2010 07:21 AM (/yhxa)

170 173 Who is Ann Althouse and why should I give a nut what she thinks? She's a concern troll who gets wiggy sometimes and can't hide the atavistic impulses that make her a lefty. Weigel with 10% less of a penis.

Posted by: oblig. at August 18, 2010 11:13 AM (x7Ao

I think Ann is just looking for blog traffic so naturally she links here. She did the same thing last year citing yours trully for calling her a "pirate whore." I don't know what is lamer, me using "pirate whore" or her taking exception to it. Furthermore all 3 of her commentors even told her to lighten-up.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 18, 2010 07:24 AM (pr+up)

171

82  yeah, and if I'm lucky he brings home food -- so what's the problem with men going hunting?  Same with fishing trips -- means weekend vacation from the husband and possible delicious fish to fry at the end of it -- where's the problem?

What if you're a woman and go hunting/fishing?

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 07:25 AM (5/yRG)

172 So Greta comes out and says that if the mosk shouldn't be build at ground 0 because of sensitivity issues then Glenn Beck shouldn't have his rally on the anniversary of the king speech at the lincoln memorial because they are alike or something.....

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2010 07:28 AM (dj6/4)

173
Pilot Killed in China Crash Believed to Be Korean Defector

A plane crash that killed its lone pilot near the Chinese city of Shenyang on Tuesday appeared to be of a North Korean jet, reports said, prompting speculation a fighter pilot was fleeing his homeland.

On Wednesday, China's state-run Xinhua news agency quoted "relevant" government sources as saying the plane that crashed a day earlier may have been North Korean, noting its pilot was killed but otherwise damage was minimal. In South Korea, the Yonhap news agency quoted intelligence sources as saying the plane was a North Korean MiG fighter jet that crashed shortly after takeoff.

Photos circulating on the Internet showed what appeared to be a fighter jet with a faded red star of the North Korean military burrowed into a thick corn field, its silver fuselage draped by logs, bricks and hay matting, with a slashed tail wing. "The aircraft crashed into a civilian makeshift house, leaving no Chinese dead or injured. The pilot died on the spot," Xinhua quoted its sources saying.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 18, 2010 07:28 AM (7+pP9)

174

What if you're a woman and go hunting/fishing?

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 11:25 AM

Then you should marry me, and bring fish/game home for me to eat after a long weekend of working on my cars, watching NASCAR and reading AoSHQ.

Not a big fan of hunting or fishing, but I'm happy to chow down on all that meaty goodness.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2010 07:29 AM (Ulu3i)

175 "Public policy has been too much to try to push people into homeownership."


Is Bwarney in a tough re-election fight this year?

Posted by: Tc at August 18, 2010 07:29 AM (DYJjQ)

176

Another cloud on Greene's horizon

About the time that Carl R. Greene stopped making mortgage payments on his luxury condo, a female employee filed a sexual-harassment complaint against Greene and the Philadelphia Housing Authority, the Daily News confirmed yesterday.

Elizabeth Helm, who had worked as a PHA architect and project designer for about a year, alleged that Greene had engaged in sexually inappropriate behavior toward her. She lodged a complaint with both the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission and the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission on April 30, according to PHRC spokeswoman Shannon Powers.

"I can confirm that we do have a complaint filed under Elizabeth Helm," Powers said yesterday. "It is against the Housing Authority but because it's a sexual harassment claim, it does name [Greene] as a respondent."
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Pubic hair, soda can. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 18, 2010 07:32 AM (7+pP9)

177 126  He doesn't make the requirement for adjunct faculty under any of the requirements at any of the colleges I've worked for.  Adjunct usually means non-tenured, but they are paid; even interim adjuncts given limited contracts are paid (usually they teach for only one full or half of a semester or quarter) -- he might, might come close to that category.  From what little I've read he appears to have been merely a guest speaker -- although they usually get somebody with more professional standing for that (and they get paid for the speaking engagement on a per diem type basis)...unless he was doing this as part of a specific program (as a graduate assistant I did much the same thing, but it was not specifically paid for the work).

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 07:33 AM (5/yRG)

178

My main problem is the inconsistency in the proponents arguements.  If the iman of this mosque would publically state that he thought 9/11 was an appropriate payback for American oppression , all of these supporters of the mosque would immediately change their support even though nothing has changed regard to their 1st amendment defense of this mosque.

Posted by: polynikes at August 18, 2010 11:27 AM (m2CN7)


No they wouldn't. A significant number of these scrunts would agree with that position.

Posted by: real joe at August 18, 2010 07:34 AM (IpIBJ)

179 My brother is the hunter in our family and he not only brings home Bambi but cooks it, too.Over the years he has perfected a recipe that is so good we'll cancel other plans to accept an invite to one of his Bambi feasts.

Besides, it makes him happy. What's not to like?

Posted by: Retread at August 18, 2010 07:35 AM (qOSkY)

180 190 Thanks for the offer, but I'm already married dear.  I do however have a daughter of nearly marriageable age (and one close to the same) -- they like hunting and fishing, and could use a significant other who can work on cars (they'd leave you alone to watch NASCAR as long as you left them alone to work with their horses)

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 07:35 AM (5/yRG)

181 Scott Brown barely lost Franks' district, which is significantly less liberal and assholish than Franks. However, I think the power of incumbency will keep the increasingly crazy little troll in office. Still, if I were his GOP opponent, I'd work extra hard because if there's any year for us to get seats we have no right to get, this is the year.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 18, 2010 07:35 AM (RgyHa)

182 I note that, regarding Cordoba House, Madame Defarge Pelosi has called for an investigation of the financing of...

...the opponents of the mosque. Standard.

For an oligarchy, that is. A Republic, not so much.

Posted by: Horatius at August 18, 2010 07:41 AM (/yhxa)

183 Most of the comments at Althouse's place are taking her to task to lighten up..


Posted by: Dave C at August 18, 2010 07:43 AM (W8f0O)

184 Wow, the PuffHo dimwits are taking San Fran Nan's call for an investigation into the funding of the GZM opposition seriously and think it's a great idea. Nothing to worry about come November pinkos, just keep hollering into the echo chamber.

Posted by: motionview at August 18, 2010 07:43 AM (zRbkQ)

185 #185

How was she?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (formerly NJConservative) at August 18, 2010 07:43 AM (LH6ir)

186 (they'd leave you alone to watch NASCAR as long as you left them alone to work with their horses) Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 11:35 AM

Got my wrenches ready!

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 18, 2010 07:43 AM (Ulu3i)

187

I'm just saying that the MFM and most of America seems to have swallowed a story that may or may not be true about Obama and what he did at the U. of Chicago.  I'm guessing they wouldn't completely lie about him, but given how much else about his life we know has been embellished and embroidered and lied about, there is no reason to take whatever U of C says as gospel, or whatever Obama said in his book either.  The media never vetted any of this stuff.  They did more actual reporting about John McCain's time in the Vietcong prison than they did on Obama's entire career.  So I have a natural skepticism about anything that is pronounced by the MFM as "true" about Obama's career, especially the crap about him being some Constitutional expert or "scholar" (and I've seen plenty of MFM references to him as a Constitutional scholar.)

All you have to do is listen to that old interview he did when he talked about the Constitution as a negative document to see that what he "knows" about the Constitution is most likely Leftist propaganda he was fed by Bill Ayers and the New Party, not any actual scholarship.

Posted by: rockmom at August 18, 2010 07:45 AM (w/gVZ)

188 Wouldn't "nutting on" be preferable to "impregnating?"

Liberals?  Ewoks?  Anyone?

Posted by: Fritz at August 18, 2010 07:45 AM (GwPRU)

189

Google "Muslim Brotherhood Project". 

Notice their goal is to cast any critic of Islam as a plotter against Islam. 

Watch our Speaker of the House do the Muslim Brotherhood's bidding. 

I wonder if she favors trying them in secular or sharia court?

Posted by: Beagle at August 18, 2010 07:47 AM (sOtz/)

190 193 So what exactly was Obama's job before he was elected to the legislature? Did he have a job while he was in the state legislature? In Va, you're supposed to be a citizen-legislater and they make damn sure you can't live on your legislature salary. Was he still in private practice? Representin' Acorn etc? Community organizin'?

Posted by: dagny at August 18, 2010 07:49 AM (dj6/4)

191
Are the mosque opponents even organized enough to have funding? Methinks Nancy is getting spooked by shadows of the VRWC.




Lack of evidence of a conspiracy is itself evidence of a well-developed conspiracy.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 18, 2010 07:49 AM (P9+0W)

192

What if you're a woman and go hunting/fishing?

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 11:25 AM (5/yRG)

Don't get me started......my wife has very definite (and narrow) views on what is and is not feminine. Argument is futile, so I don't. She has finally gotten over her disdain for the idea of eating deer meat, since the freezer gets filled with it every fall. I could make her a vegitarian by taking her to a packing plant. My son brought home a wild hog he shot a few years ago, and the sight of it laying in the back of the pickup made her vomit, Heh!

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 07:50 AM (OlN4e)

193 Once you realize that libs are all about projection, everything makes sense. Of course they think Cordoba House opponents are a well funded cabal. That's how the Left works.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 18, 2010 07:57 AM (RgyHa)

194 Going on from my post #198:

When I consider the reasons why someone like Madame Mao Pelosi would automatically assume that the opposition to the mosque had to be funded, I remember the following:

In college, I took an American Economic History course. I had to do a paper. I chose to look at the transportation of foodstuffs to civilians in the Confederacy during the Civil War.

I did this because I had read somewhere that Jefferson Davis in his memoirs had commented that the war had caused hardships for the planters, since they had imported their food from other places, concentrating on cash crops. I thought this strange, since I knew the railroad network and the ability of wagons to carry goods on wagon roads meant it unlikely that off the rail line many planters would import food outside their local areas--too expensive.

But I discovered that Davis' plantation was either on or near the Mississippi. That made perfect sense. He and his fellow planters could import food cheaply from the Midwest or other areas. Made perfect sense--and it also made sense that Davis may have extrapolated that knowledge to be representative of the entire South, even though it probably not only wasn't, but wasn't economically feasible due to transportation costs and spoilage concerns. Did well in the course--got a B overall, mainly because I was lazy. But overall it showed me how your prior knowledge and world view may influence how you view present-day events. 
 
So you know why I think Democrats always assume that someone must be organizing and paying the opposition? Why they think there can be no true grassroots concerns absent someone doing the organizing top-down?

It's the way they do business, and the only world they know.    

Posted by: Horatius at August 18, 2010 08:02 AM (/yhxa)

195 Woops--I vaguely remember that Davis was actually commenting on the state of affairs in the 1850s, pre-war. That is what got me interested, as the explosion of steam travel (rail and water) in the 30 years before the war intrigued me at the time.

Posted by: Horatius at August 18, 2010 08:05 AM (/yhxa)

196 Re 211: My thesis was that the Civil War would prove Davis correct or incorrect one way or the other (I thought him incorrect), since the use of the rails for military purposes would have limited the prior economic use. I really bit off more than could be done in one term paper for a 300 level course. It's a PhD dissertation to give you the right answer. I'm not a PhD. But I did get a B overall, which I was happy with.

Posted by: Horatius at August 18, 2010 08:10 AM (/yhxa)

197 208  I take it she would have freaked at the sight of my grandma and great-grandma making homemade soap then?

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 08:28 AM (5/yRG)

198

208 heh, that actually reminded me of a story: traffic jam caused by HUGE snapping turtle; it was in the middle of a road outside a very upscale part of Chicago (we were coming back south from a family trip)... Grandma got out, saw what was going on, got really happy (to my parent's chagrin), went and picked up the turtle, threw it in the back of the truck (no mean feat for a woman of her age).  People were smiling and thanking her for "saving the turtle" (and ending the traffic jam).

Yeah, she "saved" the turtle (it was mighty tasty too -- turtle soup, fried turtle...yummm).

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 08:34 AM (5/yRG)

199 How is the placement of a mosque at Ground Zero either a fiscal or a social issue?<<Y-Not

Are you serious?  How is it NOT a social issue?  I'm genuinely puzzled by your thinking on this point.

Oh, and fiscally?  My tax dollars are paying for the founder guy to junket around the middle east on some kind of horseshit outreach program.  You'd think you'd be on board for a little protesting of the waste of your tax money, if nothing else.

>>And, just to be clear, I'm not a libertarian or even libertarian-leaning. 

"TEA" stands for Taxed Enough Already.  The movement should stick with that mission.  It's simply good organizational management to have mission and a vision and stick with that.<<

The point of the movement is that it's not organized or managed.  It's a congregation.  If part of it wants to protest the mosque, bully for them.  You need to get that need to control things out of your system.

Posted by: Kerry at August 18, 2010 08:43 AM (a/VXa)

200 Hmmm, no. John Holmes was in a 3D porn back in the '70s. I saw it in the mid-'80s at the Nuart in Santa Monica, when it was a campy Friday night show. They ran out of glasses, so our group was short a pair and had to share. So every few minutes we would pass a pair around--but the length of time got shorter and shorter, and pretty soon we were fighting to see who would HAVE to wear the glasses.

Posted by: moviegique at August 18, 2010 08:51 AM (ey5wt)

201

Who says it doesn't have a clear direction?  It seems to be trending fiscal AND social conservative

Kerry, so the Tea Party is just the Republican Party essentially?<<<

Well, no.  It's obviously a movement where a lot of Republicans are comfortable, as well as what I would call old-time (read "non-fascist") Democrats, but it's not a party.  It's a convocation of like-minded people on the verge of revolt.  I didn't bring up the Republican party, you did, and you did it as though the thought made you throw up in your mouth a little.  Which I find weird. 


Posted by: Kerry at August 18, 2010 08:52 AM (a/VXa)

202

Yeah, she "saved" the turtle (it was mighty tasty too -- turtle soup, fried turtle...yummm).

Posted by: unknown jane at August 18, 2010 12:34 PM (5/yRG)

Jane, I've made soap. And I've eaten turtle fresh from the river too. Delicious.

My wife is resigned (as she says) to my hopeless cave man/redneck ways. Also to the fact that We're moving into the sticks for retirement. Poor woman I like to tell her not to worry about a few extra pounds, she will lose them pulling my plow.

Posted by: maddogg at August 18, 2010 09:06 AM (OlN4e)

203

So what exactly was Obama's job before he was elected to the legislature? Did he have a job while he was in the state legislature? In Va, you're supposed to be a citizen-legislater and they make damn sure you can't live on your legislature salary. Was he still in private practice? Representin' Acorn etc? Community organizin'

I suspect that Obama was given the adjunct lecturer position at UoC because he was in the state legislature. It was a win-win for UoC and Obama because Obama didn't have to work and UoC got somebody in their pocket in the legislature. That's why you hardly ever hear of anyone from one of his classes, he just didn't teach many.

What did Obama do before the legislature? The community organizing thing, he was basically part of some educational foundation (Annenburg) that some rich dude started to improve Chicago's educational system. Basically it was failure.

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