August 25, 2010
— Gabriel Malor

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Lookin more and more like a bloodbath this fall. I may have to revise my numbers.
Posted by: Vic at August 25, 2010 05:08 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: maddogg at August 25, 2010 05:08 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Cheesecakecrush at August 25, 2010 05:08 AM (CpRSg)
Posted by: The MFM at August 25, 2010 05:10 AM (DG1xe)
Aug. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Orders for durable goods increased less than forecast in July, a sign one of the few remaining bright spots in the U.S. economy is cooling.
Oh no! The non-existent recovery is cooling
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 25, 2010 05:11 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: maddogg at August 25, 2010 05:12 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 25, 2010 05:14 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 05:15 AM (p302b)
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 25, 2010 05:17 AM (IkEhE)
Posted by: Meghan at August 25, 2010 05:20 AM (OlN4e)
Vice President Biden today played attack dog for the White House, accusing Rep. John Boehner (R) of being "nostalgic" for the failed economic policies of the Bush administration.
Biden also defended the administration's plan to let tax cuts expire for the highest wage earners, while extending others for the middle class. To the charge that these decisions would hurt small businesses, the VP claimed it would affect only a minute percentage.
"It's a Wall Street tax cut, not a Main Street tax cut," he said of the expiring law. He also attacked Republicans for blocking in the Senate a planned $12 billion tax cut that Democrats had offered.
Biden conceded that the economic recovery was not proceeding as fast as the administration had hoped, but claimed there was "no doubt we're moving in the right direction."
The captain of the Titanic said the same thing.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 25, 2010 05:20 AM (1Jaio)
Murkowski still might win, her family had big influence in the republican party if i am not mistaken,
they might find a box of uncounted voted in a moose butt or something similar.
Posted by: Ben at August 25, 2010 05:20 AM (wuv1c)
LINK (worth it for the picture alone)
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 05:22 AM (p302b)
Murkowski still might will win, her family had big influence in the republican party if i am not mistaken,
they might find a box of uncounted voted in a moose butt or something similar.
Posted by: Ben at August 25, 2010 09:20 AM (wuv1c)"
FIFY
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 05:25 AM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 05:26 AM (p302b)
Absentee ballots have always been a source of fraud.
Posted by: Vic at August 25, 2010 05:27 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Meghan at August 25, 2010 05:27 AM (OlN4e)
uh oh - Nazi Pelosi(D-corrupt) and Harry Waxman(D-corrupt) are sure to demand an investigation.
shut this man up!
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 25, 2010 05:28 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: AP style guide at August 25, 2010 05:29 AM (DG1xe)
Because ours makes them break out in hives.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at August 25, 2010 05:31 AM (554T5)
It will hinge on the absentee ballots and the recounts. If this was a general with an R running against a D, I would say good chance for a D steal.
Absentee ballots have always been a source of fraud.
Are they military ballots? or Alaskan fisherman out at sea and unable to get to a voting booth?
I think Murkowski will probably pull it out, althought 2,000 votes may be hard to find when only 90.000 people voted.
Posted by: Ben at August 25, 2010 05:31 AM (wuv1c)
Aug. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Orders for durable goods increased less than forecast in July, a sign one of the few remaining bright spots in the U.S. economy is cooling.
Oh no! The non-existent recovery is cooling
yeah, since they were hoping for 3% increase, and got a 0.3% increase in stead. Off by an order of magnitude. If I had that kind of error, i'd be out of a job in jail, most likely.
is it time for the adjetive of the year?
Posted by: todler at August 25, 2010 05:32 AM (fPOY0)
Radical Ground Zero Mosque Imam: ObamaÂ’s Cairo Speech to Muslim World Came From Me
The radical imam who said the US is worse than Al-Qaeda, boasted to reporters last year that he provided the blue print for ObamaÂ’s apology speech to the Muslim world.
http://tinyurl.com/33qkg5t
Posted by: Tami at August 25, 2010 05:33 AM (VuLos)
Yahoo News had some nice bias last night: Meeks=Democrat, Rubio=tea party favorite, Crist=independent.
To those assholes, Leftist Republicans=Republicans; Conservatives=illegitimate teabaggers.
Posted by: Zimriel at August 25, 2010 05:33 AM (9Sbz+)
I don't know, if the absentee ballots are military I would say not a chance in hell for Murkowski.
Posted by: Vic at August 25, 2010 05:33 AM (/jbAw)
Joe Biden - You lie.
Let's see -- when W. was President, we had low unemployment, no tax-payer funded health care disaster on the horizon, tax cuts that stimulated the economy naturally, liberty, free markets, etc...
Now - not so much.
Golly Joe Biden, while you leftwing assholes spew hatred and lies, people are sort of longing for the days when W was in charge.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 25, 2010 05:33 AM (0fzsA)
Bloomberg Still Stuck On Stupid (NYP)
A defiant Mayor Bloomberg, saying there should be no compromise, insisted last night that a mosque be built near Ground Zero, declaring, "We must do what is right, not what is easy.
Posted by: Vic at August 25, 2010 05:35 AM (/jbAw)
LINK
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 05:37 AM (p302b)
Unfortunately, even if this is true it will get no more traction than that POS Rev. "Goddamn America" Wright did.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at August 25, 2010 05:37 AM (554T5)
they don't start counting absentee ballots until august 31st. that gives murkowski 6 days to find some ballots.
she's as good as won the race.
shoot. miller needed to win by around 4-5 thousand to ensure no foul play could swing the election
Posted by: Ben at August 25, 2010 05:38 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Meghan
And we have an early front runner for the thread winner.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 25, 2010 05:38 AM (R2fpr)
Yahoo News had some nice bias last night: Meeks=Democrat, Rubio=tea party favorite, Crist=independent.
To those assholes, Leftist Republicans=Republicans; Conservatives=illegitimate teabaggers.
Posted by: Zimriel at August 25, 2010 09:33 AM (9Sbz+)
If you want to read some really painful raw stupidity. Read Holly Bailey's mindless "political analysis" of last night's elections. There are high school newpapers that would be embarrassed to run the idiotic shit she writes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 25, 2010 05:39 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Meghan
It rubs the lotion on its skin.
Posted by: Allahpundit at August 25, 2010 05:39 AM (wuv1c)
If Palin's protege can knock off Lisa Murkowski, she'll have two Poles on her bedpost.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie Mangled Metaphors at August 25, 2010 05:40 AM (3iMgs)
Bloomberg should be tied to a chair and forced to watch endless loops of people jumping to their deaths from the WTC towers on 9/11.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at August 25, 2010 05:40 AM (554T5)
On CBS’ “The Late Show” Tuesday night, David Letterman took a jab at the president, saying: “He’ll have plenty of time for vacations after his one term is up.”
Posted by: Tami at August 25, 2010 05:40 AM (VuLos)
Bloomberg should be tied to a chair and forced to watch endless loops of people jumping to their deaths from the WTC towers on 9/11.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at August 25, 2010 09:40 AM (554T5)"
He's tone deaf....he voted himself that third term and he's been downright dictatorial ever since.
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 05:41 AM (p302b)
Remember 5000? Good times...good times. I can't seem to get Pets.com off the bottom of my shoe.
Posted by: NASDAQ at August 25, 2010 05:42 AM (3iMgs)
I didn't think they'd be putting billboards up, or selling shirts this fast, (let alone that hateful bitch modo pining for W) but wisdom is wisdom.
I long for economic growth because then people buy the stuff the company I work for makes. These leftist assholes don't get that.
Posted by: Closed Shops Suck at August 25, 2010 05:42 AM (zyaZ1)
I'm sure some poor sap of a writer for the show is looking for a job this morning.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at August 25, 2010 05:44 AM (554T5)
Posted by: Vic
1. He's quoting the character Albus Dumbledore from a Harry Potter book. Telling. Frightening as well.
2. He should be asked into which category his decision to ban trans-fats, but not nicotine, falls.
3. He should be asked into which category his decision to blame the attempted bombing of Times square on Tea-Partiers falls.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 25, 2010 05:46 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Smokey VanSturm at August 25, 2010 05:47 AM (xg1eR)
Posted by: Tami at August 25, 2010 09:40 AM (VuLos)
My guess is it was a left over joke from the Bush years and Letterman is so senile he said it thinking Bush is still in office
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 25, 2010 05:48 AM (1Jaio)
Joseph Farah says he's not a conservative anymore.
Great!
Bye. See ya latter, asshole.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 25, 2010 09:47 AM (0fzsA)
Works for me, I'm no longer a Democrat, I'm a Socialist!
Posted by: Barack Mussolini Obama at August 25, 2010 05:49 AM (zqzYV)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 25, 2010 05:50 AM (3iMgs)
Posted by: Methos at August 25, 2010 09:52 AM (1sroz)
Elliot Wave analysis says 8,000 is the stop.
Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 25, 2010 05:53 AM (zqzYV)
Posted by: sock puppeh at August 25, 2010 05:55 AM (VcPAo)
"fear and hatred become pervasive in major bear markets regardless of whether or not they are justified. There will also be a danger that governments will impose police-state type controls as a consequence of the bear market. Such periods often end with emotional political oustings, whether by vote, resignation, impeachment, coup or revolution."
Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 25, 2010 05:57 AM (zqzYV)
Joseph Farah says he's not a conservative anymore.
Great!
Bye. See ya latter, asshole.
I'm sure Alex Jones will love the company. they can share birth certificate stories.
Posted by: Allahpundit at August 25, 2010 05:57 AM (wuv1c)
If he was really sincere he would make it available free on some public access channel or on C SPANN
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 05:59 AM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 09:13 AM (p302b)
Nice!
From the link:
US SENATOR (ADL) Total Votes: 29837
US SENATOR (R) Total Votes: 89858
Posted by: NM Hick at August 25, 2010 05:59 AM (IzuWw)
Posted by: 880 on the S&P at August 25, 2010 05:59 AM (zyaZ1)
Hey, Ben, ace asked us not to sockpuppet 'real' people -- people who do comment here on occasion. We're supposed to modify the names somehow.
Posted by: Y-not at August 25, 2010 05:59 AM (4/eCJ)
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 25, 2010 06:01 AM (XdlcF)
I've never seen this Joseph Farrah character before until I clicked on Lemon Kitten's link... but ummm... is that a village people mustache or what?
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 25, 2010 06:02 AM (JNqU9)
Bloomberg: "We must grovel and let them win. You know, so they like us.
That will stop terror. Really. Ignore that fact that it's unnecessarily provocative and is in exceptionally bad taste to build an islamic mosque so close to Ground Zero. Just watch Jon Stewart, and shut up."
[insert insipid Burlington Coat Factory joke]
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 25, 2010 06:02 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 25, 2010 06:02 AM (3iMgs)
Gabe should know about this, unless he was just shit-stirring, for no good reason.
Well, it's pretty much a dead heat between Andrew Thomas and Tom Horne for the AZ Attorney General primary, statewide.
I hope Horne wins by a pretty decent margin, because we all know that unless he does so, there are going to be lawsuits, don't we?
I got a message, on my land-line from Joe Arpaio, urging me to vote for his creature for AG.
Posted by: Deety at August 25, 2010 06:03 AM (aVzyR)
It's seriously disappointing that Beck is only making his 8/28 event available if you pay $6.95 and join his "insider extreme". He claimed he is "done writing checks" and if you want to see it this is how.
If he was really sincere he would make it available free on some public access channel or on C SPANN
Yeah, I am starting to question his motives. Pretty soon he'll be selling coffee mugs, door mats and be doing a word of the day at the end of the show.
I've never understood why people become meglomaniacs once they have power, but it seems to happen without fail to every person.
I think Beck honestly believes he is on a mission from god. He's become extremely religious, which doesn't bother me a whole ton as i don't care what people beleive when it comes to faith, but I feel as thought adding more religion to the current political climate is what we need.
Posted by: Allahpundit at August 25, 2010 06:04 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: polynikes at August 25, 2010 06:04 AM (7RvEo)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 25, 2010 06:05 AM (3iMgs)
Was just thinking that O'really and Linbaugh can just write the check and allow people to see the 8/28 thing without paying.
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 06:06 AM (p302b)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 06:06 AM (rIm2V)
Hey, Ben, ace asked us not to sockpuppet 'real' people -- people who do comment here on occasion. We're supposed to modify the names somehow
sock off.
Posted by: Ben at August 25, 2010 06:06 AM (wuv1c)
I think I'd trust chicken entrails over Elliot Wavers.
"This is either the beginning of the 3rd leg of a B wave, or the fifth leg of an A wave"
two months pass
"See, it was clearly the end of the secondy-twelfth leg of a # wave"
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 25, 2010 06:06 AM (qXoXH)
Posted by: The Village People at August 25, 2010 06:06 AM (pyi1D)
Posted by: curious at August 25, 2010 06:08 AM (p302b)
Posted by: The Rage Train at August 25, 2010 06:10 AM (D83rV)
The Saudis seemed most interested in besting Great Britain with this clock and intent on making Mecca the new time standard in place of Greenwich Mean Time.
Mecca Mean Time. Srsly.
Can NASA go back to space now?
Posted by: HeatherRadish's cat is trying to kill her at August 25, 2010 06:11 AM (E6e0b)
Vic, care to divulge your patented crock pot sauce recipe? Sounds like something I need to add to my cookbook arsenal. Plus, I've never had much luck making homemade sauce.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 25, 2010 06:12 AM (M6enm)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 25, 2010 06:13 AM (FkKjr)
I think I'd trust chicken entrails over Elliot Wavers.
"This is either the beginning of the 3rd leg of a B wave, or the fifth leg of an A wave"
two months pass
"See, it was clearly the end of the secondy-twelfth leg of a # wave"
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 25, 2010 10:06 AM (qXoXH)
The proof is in the results. I got out of the market at DOW 11,200 based on their advice. The DOW is now below 10,000. They predict the next drop will be a sudden drop to DOW 8,000. Let's see if it happens.
Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 25, 2010 06:14 AM (zqzYV)
Sales
of new single-family houses in July 2010 were at a seasonally adjusted
annual rate of 276,000, according to estimates released jointly today by
the U.S. Census Bureau and the Department of Housing and Urban
Development. This is 12.4 percent (±10.8%) below the revised June rate
of 315,000 and is 32.4 percent (±8.7%) below the July 2009 estimate of
408,000.
The median sales price of new houses sold in July 2010
was $204,000; the average sales price was $235,300. The seasonally
adjusted estimate of new houses for sale at the end of July was 210,000.
This represents a supply of 9.1 months at the current sales rate.
Posted by: Methos at August 25, 2010 06:14 AM (1sroz)
Posted by: Hatchet Five at August 25, 2010 06:15 AM (pyi1D)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at August 25, 2010 09:40 AM (554T5)
I love that movie!
Posted by: Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf at August 25, 2010 06:15 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 25, 2010 10:13 AM (FkKjr)
That is true. And sooooo hot.
Posted by: Kal Penn at August 25, 2010 06:16 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Methos at August 25, 2010 06:17 AM (1sroz)
Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 25, 2010 09:57 AM (zqzYV)
Strangly, Mike Barnacle, a very liberal columnist for the Boston Globe, was commenting along a similar line. He says there are two depressions going on in this country - the first is the economic depression. The second is a mental depression, where people have doubts about the country and want someone to reassure them that America will be great again, that it will rise above again.
Meanwhile, President Shout Out will continue to apologize for America's failure and promise the UN we will try and do better. Oh, and Saudi Arabia and Iran, if you could tell us how to become more tolerant of minorities, woman and gays - we would really appreciate the advice.
Posted by: Mallamutt at August 25, 2010 10:01 AM (OWjjx)
And according to wave theory, social mood drives stock prices. They are related. I subscribe to it becuase it works. It got me out of the market before the 1,000 point drop. It's keeping me out now.
Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 25, 2010 06:18 AM (zqzYV)
I think we call that malaise.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at August 25, 2010 06:19 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 10:18 AM (xmjMj)
Ok, can someone please get the Westboro idiots to try and build a "church" next to Matthew Sheppard's grave? I think we need to see a little State Media whiplash action...
Maybe we could ask Al Gore since he is buddy-buddy with them?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 25, 2010 06:22 AM (7BU4a)
Check out their caption for this Arlington photo.
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 10:18 AM (xmjMj)
You didn't now that Wicca was all the rage among Jewish men in the 1940's?
That being said, they really should give that soldier a new headstone. He's more than earned it by his sacrifice.
Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at August 25, 2010 06:23 AM (zqzYV)
Posted by: Gran at August 25, 2010 10:18 AM (xmjMj)
Ok, I'm stumped AP. What the hell does a WWII veteran's tombstone at Arlington with a Wiccan symbol on it have to do with a Mosque at ground zero?
Posted by: Tami at August 25, 2010 06:23 AM (VuLos)
Hey, Ben, ace asked us not to sockpuppet 'real' people -- people who do comment here on occasion. We're supposed to modify the names somehow.
Posted by: Y-not at August 25, 2010 09:59 AM (4/eCJ)
Yea, cut it out. Now, I gotta get in my Ewok costume and go have furry sex with S.E. Cupp
Posted by: Sockpuppet Ace at August 25, 2010 06:25 AM (zqzYV)
That's my girl, get in line you interloper!!!
Posted by: Hatchet Five at August 25, 2010 06:26 AM (pyi1D)
Posted by: 8starsnorth at August 25, 2010 06:28 AM (Wla8i)
i've been thinking, rare for me, if you think the Ground Zero Mosque debate is bad now, just wait about 2 weeks.
I have a feeling that the second week of september is going to be constant coverage of how intolerant and racist we all are some 9 years after 9/11. Also, i think this is the year that the media starts to blame america for the events that day.
Posted by: Ben at August 25, 2010 06:29 AM (wuv1c)
That's my girl, get in line you interloper!!!
Posted by: Hatchet Five at August 25, 2010 10:26 AM (pyi1D)
Sorry, there is no "line". Alpha Ewoks go to the front, wait your turn beta.
Posted by: Sockpuppet Ace at August 25, 2010 06:29 AM (zqzYV)
In reality? Absolutely nothing.
In their thinking? All religions are the same, so Wicca and Islam are the same, so if we can accept a Wiccan symbol in Arlington, we can accept a celebratory monument on a site of jihad.
(If contemporary Wiccans preach about killing infidels and taking their stuff, they keep it pretty quiet.)
Posted by: HeatherRadish's cat is trying to kill her at August 25, 2010 06:31 AM (E6e0b)
That'll do wonders for their ratings. Anyone else wondering how long it takes for the next Voice of bin Laden tape to come out criticizing America's intolerance regarding the mosque?
Posted by: Methos at August 25, 2010 06:34 AM (1sroz)
1 pound ground beef, 95% lean
1 cup onion -- chopped
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1 cup water
1 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon PEPPER
1 teaspoon oregano
6 ounces tomato paste -- 1 can
3/4 teaspoon basil leaves
1 teaspoon sugar
1/2 teaspoon fennel seed
1 leaf bay leaf
16 ounces tomato sauce
15 1/2 ounces canned diced tomatoes
1/2 teaspoon marjoram
1/4 teaspoon rosemary
Stir in all ingredients except ground beef cook on low at least 4 hours
brown ground beef then stir into crockpot cook another hour or as long as you want.
(its really a modified Betty Crocker)
Posted by: Vic at August 25, 2010 06:36 AM (/jbAw)
Andrew McCarthy has written about four great articles in a row over at National Review. He's really been doing his Islamic homework.
"...But doing it quietly was imperative. Most American Muslims are not instinctively different from other Americans. But American Muslim communities are peculiar. In many of them, the leadership of the mosques and Islamic centers is foreign (or at least foreign-influenced). This leadership tends to be anti-Western and arrogant, claiming an Islamic authenticity Americans are said to lack. Many American Muslims are intimidated into silence. They are cowed by the specter of being condemned as too American. In Islam, there is no more grievous offense than causing disunity through infidelity. It is no small thing when community leaders frame a Muslim as insufficiently loyal to the ummah, the notional Islamic nation."
Exactly. A death penalty which can be carried out by a sharia court or by another Muslim is no small thing. And given the MFM's complete media blackout on sharia, murder by right, and the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood leadership dominant in the US, I'm amazed any Muslim ever cooperates with law enforcement.
Why should they help us win when it's obvious most people would rather pretend nothing is happening?
Posted by: Beagle at August 25, 2010 06:36 AM (sOtz/)
it's those fundamental Wiccans that you have to look out for. They preach a strict interpretation of the tree pruning guidlines and shun those who do not comply. Which is difficult to do, since they're all standing in a field in the dark.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 25, 2010 06:36 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: dagny at August 25, 2010 06:37 AM (Que2V)
Makes you wonder if these people were ever actually angry about 9/11. I vote no.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 25, 2010 06:38 AM (DYuW4)
Ah, dramatic pause? Sorry about that.
Posted by: Beagle
at least it wasn't a pregnant pause. 'Cause then the place would be littered.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 25, 2010 06:38 AM (R2fpr)
104 - yeah. I'm sick to death of intolerant morally superior tent-shrinking faction of the religious right.
Some in the gay community are fed up with the democrat party because, well, democrats are liberty-killing assholes. So, some of these working class gays would like a home with the conservatives, because they too believe in smaller government, lower taxes, freedom, liberty etc... (oh noez!)
But the morality police within the old-line guard of the Republican establishment say - "Nope. Get lost. We are gate keepers and we insist on shrinking the tent to include only the pure."
Yeah - good luck with that.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 25, 2010 06:38 AM (0fzsA)
Countdown to de-funding by Baracky:
http://tinyurl.com/2bycc8o
Posted by: Sockpuppet Ace at August 25, 2010 06:43 AM (zqzYV)
http://tinyurl.com/2entscq
Iear Lord, it's a biohazard scene now.
Posted by: mpfs at August 25, 2010 06:43 AM (iYbLN)
Some in the gay community are fed up with the democrat party because, well, democrats are liberty-killing assholes. So, some of these working class gays would like a home with the conservatives, because they too believe in smaller government, lower taxes, freedom, liberty etc... (oh noez!)
But the morality police within the old-line guard of the Republican establishment say - "Nope. Get lost. We are gate keepers and we insist on shrinking the tent to include only the pure."
Yeah - good luck with that.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten
I am getting sick unto death of hearing this crap. I can and have worked for and voted for pro-abortion candidates because I determined that they were the best candidate running. Case in point: I'll probably be voting for Mike Castle in November. Does sane fiscal policy matter? Yes. Do many beneficial things flow from sane fiscal policy? Yes. Is anyone willing to say that no social issue is worth any condsideration, or that it must always be trumped by political advantage and opportunism? Do we really believe that because we don't have an active three ring circus under our tent we're somehow bereft?
And the intolerant morally superior tent-shrinking faction of the religious right are the dividers?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 25, 2010 06:45 AM (R2fpr)
Unmarried straights who "die early" don't get to name a beneficiary, either.
Posted by: HeatherRadish's cat is trying to kill her at August 25, 2010 06:46 AM (E6e0b)
#125
California is huge on "beach access." So they allow hobo RVs to completely take away any beach parking for anyone else. It's very common for them to dump raw sewage on the street. I saw a TV interview where a guy started throwing garbage from the top of his RV at the interviewer who tried to ask him some questions.
That's the end result of modern progressive thought: being buried under human excrement.
Posted by: Beagle at August 25, 2010 06:51 AM (sOtz/)
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In completely unrelated news, UVB-76 broadcasts a rare voice messsage.
Posted by: Anachronda isn't paranoid, really at August 25, 2010 06:54 AM (6fER6)
#125
California is huge on "beach access." So they allow hobo RVs to completely take away any beach parking for anyone else. It's very common for them to dump raw sewage on the street. I saw a TV interview where a guy started throwing garbage from the top of his RV at the interviewer who tried to ask him some questions.
That's the end result of modern progressive thought: being buried under human excrement.
Posted by: BeagleNow this is becoming a huge story/mess.
Posted by: mpfs at August 25, 2010 06:54 AM (iYbLN)
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Yeah, well, I saw one in which a guy said that if the homeowners didn't want them to crap on their lawns, they should hire portapotties.
Posted by: Anachronda isn't paranoid, really at August 25, 2010 06:56 AM (6fER6)
Any place where the "hippy bums" hangout literally turns into a damn sewer. Imagine the outcry if some evil "factory" was allowing their toilet to dump out on the streets or even on their own property.
This is the kind of shit that makes me glad I no longer live in CA. When I was there the bum part of SF smelled like piss, now we learn the entire city does.
In a sane environment these bums would have been arrested and given a choice of the "work farm" are being transported 50 miles out of town and dumped.
Posted by: Vic at August 25, 2010 07:02 AM (/jbAw)
But can you deny that their is an inequity there for two people who fashion their lives around a commitment to each other and are precluded from receiving a benefit for which they contribute toward the system?
Posted by: Downsized Upscale
Sure can. You wanna push for SS benefits for those in civil unions? Go for it. But that's not what is happening here. it's another push to legitimize Gay marriage. When SS was conceived, it was deemed as being desirable, and it was geared to recognize survivors that were married. Do we as a society want to extend that eligibility to those in civil unions? That's a question for this country to consider, not one to be force fed.
Posted by: Scott Ritter at August 25, 2010 07:07 AM (R2fpr)
I'd like to submit....
"I didn't read the Obamacare bill, but I did write it." - Sen Max Baucus.
Posted by: ObamaSuxDonkeyBalls at August 25, 2010 07:07 AM (w74G6)
Posted by: Palerider at August 25, 2010 07:12 AM (FYUWS)
If a civil union doesn't take care of that then change the social secuity law so that their partner receives the benefit. Inequities especially financial ones can be fixed without going full out "marriage".
However, fiscally, if we start paying out death benefits to some sort of partner for every single person then social secuity becomes insolvent a lot faster than it would. Perhaps the caveat that if there are no children the couple needs to have lived together at least 25 years. Also, if a couple doesn't have children then they have both worked and each has their own benefits. If a couple has children there used to be and still often is a time when one loses income, status, and benefits to care for children hence needing the other's benefits.
I live across the street from a very nice gay couple. They have been together forever and they should be able to inherit from one another, etc. They have also both worked full time with no children to interrupt their careers. I've been married the same amount of time but have been home for 15 years raising children. They have more disposable income than I do, uninterrupted careers, less debt because they haven't had to rear children. The marriage benefits were set up so that the person, usually the wife, still has benefits when her husband dies.
It's not about sexual fairness, it's about the family and trying to balance the inequities associated with child rearing. If we start punishing people for having children, we end up not replacing ourselves and might as well turn it over to the illegals and sharia law advocates now.
Posted by: dagny at August 25, 2010 07:13 AM (Que2V)
Well, D'oh's family is pissed with our kid, due to the heated e-mails that have been flying back and forth between him and his libtard cousin. D'oh Boy challenged his older cousin to say the things he's been saying to his face the next time they're together. Heh. Called him a "typical leftist progressive, who name calls and insults behind others' backs when he can't win an argument."
Brings a tear. Sniff.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 25, 2010 07:18 AM (UOM48)
Sure. It's the same fucking inequality being dealt to ME if I "contribute toward the system" for my entire adult life and then die of cirrhosis at 60. It's got nothing to do with sexual preference.
Posted by: HeatherRadish's cat is trying to kill her at August 25, 2010 07:19 AM (E6e0b)
Posted by: Palerider at August 25, 2010 07:22 AM (FYUWS)
That's bullshit, you know. You can't get married unless someone wants to marry you. I never "decided" to be born so hideously ugly no man was ever interested, and I like to think I'm not the only one.
Even if "gay marriage" becomes a federal law, there's still going to be a privileged class under the law. I don't fault them for wanting to join the privileged class, but eh "equality" argument is utter bullshit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish's cat is trying to kill her at August 25, 2010 07:23 AM (E6e0b)
Posted by: Bob T at August 25, 2010 07:23 AM (SzKHs)
Guess how Michael Bennet paid back Obama for his support?
Michael Bennet, D-Colo,at a town hall meeting in Greeley last Saturday, Aug 21 said we had nothing to show for the debt incurred by the stimulus package and other expenditures calling the recession the worst since the Great Depression. [...]
Regarding spending during his time in office he said, “We have managed to acquire $13 trillion of debt on our balance sheet” and, “in my view we have nothing to show for it.”
Lousy traitor!Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 25, 2010 07:25 AM (PLvLS)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 25, 2010 07:27 AM (M6enm)
I think Farah went several bridges too far in going after Coulter.
I have a big problem with courts magically finding a right to something which has never existed in human history. Better to legislate from the legislature. But attacking people for their bedroom behavior is rude. It's hard to believe some people sit around and get angry about consensual sex between adults. Good thing everything else in the world is A-OK...
Posted by: Beagle at August 25, 2010 07:30 AM (sOtz/)
"PRESENT!" - Barack Obama.
He should be required to yell "FORE" everytime that he signs a bill so that we American's down the fairway will know to duck.
Posted by: Max Entropy at August 25, 2010 07:32 AM (la188)
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FUBARed it for you
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 25, 2010 07:38 AM (R2fpr)
Though our Founders were steeped in "Judeo-Christian principles" it's really not fair to say our Constitution had much to do with religious thought.
If it was math it might be something like this:
Locke + Montesquieu + a dash of Machiavelli + wanting to avoid centuries of European religious war between (mostly) Catholics and Protestants + great knowledge of (not just) Greek and Roman history + yet still having great respect for basic Christian values + Freemasons! =
US Constitution.
Posted by: Beagle at August 25, 2010 07:51 AM (sOtz/)
I hope Horne wins by a pretty decent margin because we all know that unless he does so, there are going to be lawsuits, don't we?
Hey Gabe?
Got an informed POV on this race?
Or are you, completely disinterested, couldn't give a shit, because of the law and all...
Andrew Thomas is a lunatic and to the extent that Joe Arpaio sticks up for this paranoid fuck, he is entirely crazy or corrupt!
Posted by: Deety at August 25, 2010 08:08 AM (aVzyR)
Posted by: eman at August 25, 2010 08:09 AM (rIm2V)
Not a fan of gay marriage. However many points could be addressed without such an extreme solution. Inheritance, you should be allowed to leave your estate to any one you want without the gov. hitting you one last time. Do away for the tax for everyone, gay, straight, or undetermined. In matters of health care, you should be able to assign power of attorney to anyone you wish, gay companions included. Let's find ways to reach a concensus, not all or nothing on both sides.
There are a number of gay posters here and I value there friendship and participation the same as every one else's.
Posted by: bigred at August 25, 2010 08:15 AM (cX9pO)
Beagle 152 , yeah, until the 14th Amendment.
The 14th Amendment exists not just because of slavery, but because of Mormonism. The Federal Government didn't want an established church of LDS in "Deseret" (Utah / Nevada / southern Idaho). Also, the feds fretted about Catholics on the eastern seaboard.
Mencius Moldbug has asserted that the late-1800s Republicans established a Federal Church of Secular Calvinism: yay Unitarian and mainline Protestant denominations; boo Mormons, Catholics, and Southern Baptists. I suspect he's right.
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