September 15, 2010

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— Gabriel Malor


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Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 05:22 AM | Comments (399)
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1 Is it safe?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 15, 2010 05:25 AM (SB0V2)

2 Gird Your Loins: I think the RNC needs to do that as well as the Dems. All the elections since 2008 have been overwhelming statements from the people that we are tired of tax and spend, nanny-governments and elitist political hacks thinking they know how to spend our money better than we do. RNC-the PEOPLE elected Christine O'Donnell. So why don't you work with the people and support her, rather than taking your toys and going home? What whiny-babies.

Posted by: moki at September 15, 2010 05:26 AM (dZmFh)

3
Bite me.  Three letters:  J. O. B. S.


Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2010 05:26 AM (0fzsA)

4

Christine O'Donnell at 205% of $50,000.00 goal

 

http://christine2010.com/

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:27 AM (TMzkG)

5 So Castle is not going to endorse OD.  Stay classy GOP.

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:27 AM (AQxTm)

6
This is a big fucking deal.
Who wants ice cream?

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2010 05:28 AM (0fzsA)

7 Hey CanaDave, how goes it?

Posted by: moki at September 15, 2010 05:28 AM (dZmFh)

8 And it's gone up to 207% in the minute difference in our commenting times, Dave.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 15, 2010 05:28 AM (3phFo)

9 Hey moki, not bad...how are you?

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:29 AM (TMzkG)

10

With the dead people vote a lock thanks to Soros money, Reid desperately tries to secure the illegal alien vote:

http://tinyurl.com/2anvzh9

from sidebar headlines.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 05:30 AM (RkRxq)

11 I'm with Ed on this one.  Those of us who prefer to vote on principles keep getting told to hold our noses and vote for RINOs who win the nominations.  Couldn't swallow McCain?  Think Brown is a bit squishy?  Tough, deal.

The shoe is now on the other foot.  It may not be the path of least resistance you wanted, but the candidate is now set.  Like Ed says, "Grow up, shut up, and get to work."  O'Donnell is the candidate in Delaware.  Stop acting like petulant children and get busy doing the moving of heaven and earth needed to win!

Oh, and the Delaware party apparatchiks can go screaming to fry in Hell.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 05:30 AM (IkEhE)

12 #4

Ace maybe right, the revival starts! Everyone loves an underdog, and the bearded Marxist can be beat.

 Goldwater fever!  Get it!

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:30 AM (AQxTm)

13

And it's gone up to 207% in the minute difference in our commenting times, Dave.

It was at 157% a half an hour ago...I guess that 'we're not financing her' thing is pissing people off

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:31 AM (TMzkG)

14 210%

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:32 AM (TMzkG)

15 Fuck Castle and the establishment GOP; donate to candidates directly. No more $$s to the national party until they bow to US the People. Until then fuck 'em.

Posted by: Don Carne at September 15, 2010 05:32 AM (wSNS7)

16 so how is Ditka's lingerie football team doing? I think the season started last week

Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2010 05:32 AM (gAmQ1)

17 Those teabaggers are ruining my party.

Posted by: Mike Castle supporter at September 15, 2010 05:32 AM (DYJjQ)

18 Ines Sainz, the Mrs. Spain winner and current sports reporter, has been embroyled in yet another scandal. While on her knees in the locker room secret service agents tackled her to the ground and tasered her. It seems she had her eye on the same cock Obama was looking at. Yes it is true, Obama still sucks cock.

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 15, 2010 05:33 AM (z7K4P)

19 Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 09:30 AM (IkEhE)

Who is being petulant? Ace posted some salient points about the possibility of an O'Donnell win.

Stop being smug over imagined behavior.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 05:33 AM (LH6ir)

20 7-still a dizzy blond, but better. Took my chocolate lab in for ACL surgery this morning-she was running and snapped it. If Obamacare doesn't get repealed, I'm going to start going to our vet for knee surgery. At least they tell you up front what the costs will be.

Posted by: moki at September 15, 2010 05:33 AM (dZmFh)

21 #13

She should have aimed higher, saying that the headline that she doubled her goal in an hour is pretty impressive.

Let's not forget, DeMint has his own PAC with lots of cash.   I think this will be a defining moment.  Steele has to go.

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:33 AM (AQxTm)

22 So, Castle is going to do a Scoffevezza. Definitely a party man.

On the plus side Pedro Espada and Hiram "can't stop beating my bitch" Monserrate will not be around to plague NY.

Posted by: Penfold at September 15, 2010 05:34 AM (1PeEC)

23 Fuck Castle and the establishment GOP; donate to candidates directly. No more $$s to the national party until they bow to US the People. Until then fuck 'em. ------------------------- Totally agreed. It's common wisdom that O'Donnell can't win, but just a few weeks ago she wasn't supposed to beat Castle. We'll see...

Posted by: MJ at September 15, 2010 05:36 AM (BKOsZ)

24 And we beat that wimp dick Rick Lazo in NY. 

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:36 AM (AQxTm)

25

@20 7-still a dizzy blond, but better. Took my chocolate lab in for ACL surgery this morning-she was running and snapped it. If Obamacare doesn't get repealed, I'm going to start going to our vet for knee surgery. At least they tell you up front what the costs will be.

 

Yeah, still kinda deaf over here too.  You're right...our veterinarian seems more trustworthy in surgery than a lot of doctors as well

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:36 AM (TMzkG)

26
ot - Karl Rove is running ads in CO - and they kinda suck.  Who appointed this guy king of the GOP?

I don't hate him, but he's kind of out of touch.



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 15, 2010 05:37 AM (0fzsA)

27

It appears that the official leaders of the Republican party can't see beyond the end of their noses.  The Tea Party leaning members of the public want to swing government back from the ditch on the left side of the road where Obama & the Dems have taken it.  The Republicans in charge have no interest in swinging the government to the right, they're telling the public that we can just ease up on the gas but stay in the lefty ditch. 

The voting public has no use for these establishment Republicans, and certainly Obama has no use for them.  They might soon find themselves under that bus!

Posted by: Boots at September 15, 2010 05:37 AM (06JTY)

28

Joe Biden had best stay far far away from my loins.

Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2010 05:38 AM (+FkcS)

29 @Kemp,

The problem is the retarded voters of NY. That they would even think about electing that sleazy cocksucker Cuomo is amazing to me. He is a perfect representation of all that is wrong with our political system.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 05:38 AM (LH6ir)

30
Rangel (D-NY) survives?  Democrats are allowed to be as corrupt as needed.  Voters still line up to worship their whores.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 15, 2010 05:38 AM (0fzsA)

31 The shoe is now on the other foot.  It may not be the path of least resistance you wanted, but the candidate is now set.  Like Ed says, "Grow up, shut up, and get to work."  O'Donnell is the candidate in Delaware.  Stop acting like petulant children and get busy doing the moving of heaven and earth needed to win!

Heh. I wrote yesterday that they would do this. It's hilarious and tragic that after spending weeks lambasting those who disagree as RINOs and traitors, particularly the NRSC, the O'Donnell folks can sit there with a straight face and expect the RINOs and traitors to spend time and money on her campaign. You wanted an insurgency. Congratulations.

Fact: polls have O'Donnell 11 points behind. The GOP has closer Senate races in NV, WA, WI, CA, IL, WV, and CT and limited funds. We should be spending those funds on the closer Senate races that we're more likely to win. If the first round of post-primary polls shows O'Donnell in a better position than that then we can re-compute.

But it's pretty fuckin' precious that folks who vow to dismantle the "GOP establishment" are now all butt-hurt that the "establishment" won't pay for the privilege. GTFOOH, you must be joking.

My hope is that the GOP tsunami is so great that the Delaware race won't matter for retaking the Senate.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 05:38 AM (1TvCg)

32

Jeez i sober up and find out we got an insurrection going on down here.

Posted by: Born and Raised Below the Canal at September 15, 2010 05:39 AM (f9czX)

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:39 AM (TMzkG)

34 I don't hate him, but he's kind of out of touch.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 15, 2010 09:37 AM (0fzsA)

Watch the video of him on Sean Vanity last night and you will hate him.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 05:40 AM (LH6ir)

35  And ain't that something, BTW. Post-primary, California is better territory for Republicans than Delaware. Go figure.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 05:40 AM (1TvCg)

36

 Karl Rove is running ads in CO - and they kinda suck.

Rove, you munificent custard!

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 15, 2010 05:40 AM (SCcgT)

37 I like the Magnificent Bastard, but it's all money to him now.  If we take the Senate, he has more clients.  His fund raising for his PAC has less of a sales talk now. 

He is being too much of a defeatist.  Want to beat if OD hires him he'll change is tune?

Where the hell is Lee Atwater when we need him?

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:40 AM (AQxTm)

38 -- 19: It wasn't pointed at Ace.  His points are constructive and appreciated.

It was pointed at the sorts of 'RINO or nothing' attitudes I was seeing in the posts regarding Delaware leading up to this.  You read them same as I did; that's not imagined.

And of course, it's aimed at Establishment scum everywhere.  Not that they read this, but who knows.

Your tone is interesting.  Touch a guilty nerve?  If not, well, sorry, but I don't really feel terribly charitable after getting clobbered over the head with 'hold your nose and support the RINO' so often.  (And I've gone to bat on this position.  What gets me is folks who take their ball and go home when the non-RINO wins, whining about 'electability' the whole way while stabbing the nominee of their claimed party in the back with non-support.)

If that isn't you, the post isn't aimed at you.  Feel free to go about your business and ignore it was ever written.  Otherwise, well...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 05:41 AM (IkEhE)

39 Not all of the voters in NY are retarded. And Cuomo may have a bigger fight than he thinks. I mean, yeah, he's hitting Sandra Lee, but he has not done much as AG, and the Cuomo name doesn't carry a lot of luster. He has a bunch of shit in his closet that is coming out soon and hopefully Paladino's campaign will hammer him on his time with the feds when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were running rampant and put us is in this friggin' housing mess.

Posted by: Penfold at September 15, 2010 05:42 AM (1PeEC)

40 30
Rangel (D-NY) survives?  Democrats are allowed to be as corrupt as needed.  Voters still line up to worship their whores.

Hey, I resent the shit out of that.  It's was just a felony pron charge.

Posted by: Alvin, the candidate, not the chimpmunk at September 15, 2010 05:42 AM (AQxTm)

41
Reid is getting desperate.  The more desperate democrats get, the trickier they become.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 15, 2010 05:42 AM (0fzsA)

42 The GOP establishment sorely needs to be un-established, and they are helping the Teaparty do just that. Lead, follow, or get the fuck outta the way.

Posted by: maddogg at September 15, 2010 05:43 AM (OlN4e)

43 Almost half of all Americans live in a household in which someone receives government benefits.

13% of all U.S. households pay neither federal income nor payroll taxes.


Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 05:44 AM (Vz9lf)

44
Watch the video of him on Sean Vanity last night and you will hate him.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I'll take your word for it.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 15, 2010 05:45 AM (0fzsA)

45

 

221%

 

I don't think O'Donnell is going to need any support from the GOP establishment...

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:45 AM (TMzkG)

46 And with respect to O'Donnell, since is the GOP candidate, hopefully the GOP will not cut's its nose to spite its face, but then again, that would not be the first time.

Posted by: Penfold at September 15, 2010 05:45 AM (1PeEC)

47

In my newly acquired capacity as foreign policy expert (self bestowed), my opinion, excuse me, expert opinion is that this won't, but it should, put the Middle East peace process in stark relief:

http://tinyurl.com/3ynzfe4

Turkey continues to turn Islamist.  Lebanon will shortly be forced to subjugate itself to complete Syrian control.  Egypt's Mubarak is nearing the end of his sojourn on earth and Egypt will likely become islamized.  (They've been producing hundreds of M1A1 tanks under license for years.  This would be a phenomenal prize for the islamists.)

If the peace process experiences any degree of success, that will in truth put Israel just another giant step closer to potential destruction.

There you have it.  Another expert analysis from your humble expert on an every growing number of scientific and complex policy fields.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 05:46 AM (RkRxq)

48 Gabriel, thank you for illustrating the problem.  I don't think COD's team handled matters well, but still, if the DE GOP had a lick of principles, they would swallow their pride and support.  The damn.  Candidate.  Just like so many of us have had to, election after election, when RINOs who sometimes insulted their.  Own.  Bases.  Were nominated again and again.

No excuses.  We have what we have.  Win with it.  Find a way.

And if you want to say that's smug or whatever, go ahead.  My skin's thick enough to handle the worst of what the Left can throw at me; you don't register.  I don't care what you call me, just get the job done!

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 05:46 AM (IkEhE)

49 Loins girded. Eyes readed... Exciting First Look At Barack Obama's "Of Thee I Sing: A Letter To My Daughters" You'll laugh. You'll cry. It will change your life...or something.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2010 05:46 AM (+kzvp)

50 There were primaries yesterday?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at September 15, 2010 05:47 AM (7+pP9)

51 #38

As Gabe pointed out above, you can't have it both ways. You got your anti-establishment candidate -- just don't expect the establishment to run around sucking your cocks in glee.

I am no fan of the republican party, especially its entrenched dinosaurs. But the cold, rational calculus is that O'Donnell is probably not going to win, so why spend the money?

If O'Donnell was a more impressive, accomplished person I would be much happier about last night's outcome. As is, she is a marginal candidate with some baggage. If she wins? Great! Just don't expect lots of support from the people you have been lambasting for the last three months. And, by the way, I'll probably toss her a few bucks, because a dipshit republican is better than a dipshit democrat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 05:47 AM (LH6ir)

52

 The more desperate democrats get, the trickier they become.

But does this translate to electoral success? Are we in more danger of losing to desperate, tricky Democrats than confident, cool-headed ones?

I doubt it.


Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 15, 2010 05:48 AM (SCcgT)

53 44 The GOP establishment sorely needs to be un-established, and they are helping the Teaparty do just that. Lead, follow, or get the fuck outta the way.

Posted by: maddogg at September 15, 2010 09:43 AM (OlN4e)


This is an absolutely legitimate position (one I happen to agree with). But don't stand there and stamp your foot that the NRSC, which represents the establishment, has decided to sit out in Delaware, which is running a candidate who feels the same way and which is a long shot now. That's just insane.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 05:48 AM (1TvCg)

54 Grind your loins is more fun.

Posted by: dogfish at September 15, 2010 05:49 AM (UEJ97)

55

I like the Magnificent Bastard, but it's all money to him now.  If we take the Senate, he has more clients.  His fund raising for his PAC has less of a sales talk now. 

He is being too much of a defeatist.  Want to beat if OD hires him he'll change is tune?

Kemp, I think one of the great things about this recent primary, indeed this entire primary season, is that it has brought clarity to the situation in which the Republican party currently finds itself. This fight has been a long time coming.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2010 05:49 AM (JxMoP)

56 42

Good morning

I thought you guys should see this right away

Posted by: Jones at September 15, 2010 09:42 AM (ZH73Z)

Thanks.  I needed that. How did you know?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 05:50 AM (RkRxq)

57 Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 09:46 AM (RkRxq)

What are you, some kind of Jew lover? They built 50 houses! That is far, far worse than anything the Islamists have ever done.

Posted by: NJProgressive at September 15, 2010 05:51 AM (LH6ir)

58 Ha...Christine O'Donnell changed her fundraising goal to $200,000.00 and she's at 56% now http://christine2010.com/

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:51 AM (TMzkG)

59 #42

Holy Shit, the Panthers pay Tampa Bay Sunday, I am taking my binoculars!

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:51 AM (AQxTm)

60 Payments to individuals are 64.3% of all federal outlays.

Hey, let's mothball some more ships.  *grumble*

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 05:52 AM (Vz9lf)

61 ODonnell ran a campaign FIGHTING THE ESTABLISHMENT. As a supporter of her totally grassroots candidacy, you look silly screaming at the establishment when they won't give you money after you won. You also lose a bit of your legitimacy as an outsider. The NRSC announcement has paid off big time- she was at $40k total in the bank at the end of voting yesterday. She raised over $100k in TWELVE HOURS since, mostly out of anger at the NRSC. They played their role of evil asshole, she continues to fight it and its paying off.

Posted by: CAC at September 15, 2010 05:52 AM (lV4Fs)

62 This is an absolutely legitimate position (one I happen to agree with). But don't stand there and stamp your foot that the NRSC, which represents the establishment, has decided to sit out in Delaware, which is running a candidate who feels the same way and which is a long shot now. That's just insane.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 09:48 AM (1TvCg)


Gabe, what you are ignoring here is that O'Donnell won an OPEN FUCKING GOP PRIMARY!  The NRSC is supposed to represent REPUBLICANS not the fucking establishment!  She won, get over it.  11 points is nothing in a state as small as DE with this much time left.  Castle is an abomination as a Republican.  The DE republicans have spoken.  Get on board or shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Hedgehog at September 15, 2010 05:52 AM (oQIfB)

63 If O'Donnell was a more impressive, accomplished person I would be much happier about last night's outcome. As is, she is a marginal candidate with some baggage. If she wins? Great! Just don't expect lots of support from the people you have been lambasting for the last three months. And, by the way, I'll probably toss her a few bucks, because a dipshit republican is better than a dipshit democrat. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 09:47 AM (LH6ir) Fine O'Donald may not be the greatest candidate since sliced bread. So don't flood her campaign with Party Money. HOWEVER to come out on Primary Night and shit all over her is a low class thing for the Party and the Party Elites to do. And it shows how tone deaf not only the Democrats are but apparently also the Republicans Elites.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 15, 2010 05:52 AM (0GFWk)

64 And, by the way, I'll probably toss her a few bucks, because a dipshit republican is better than a dipshit democrat.

That's all I ask.  This isn't about ego, though it seems to be for you; I'd rather just win.  This one is harder, granted, but it's what we got, and frankly the state party cut its own throat, so I feel not one whit bad about it.

This isn't glee you're seeing.  It's disgust at the double standard of 'have to support the RINO' but 'she's too hard to elect, so I won't help'.  If you can't tell the difference, that's an issue I can't do anything about.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 05:53 AM (IkEhE)

65 What are you, some kind of Jew lover? They built 50 houses! That is far, far worse than anything the Islamists have ever done.

Posted by: NJProgressive at September 15, 2010 09:51 AM (LH6ir)

You're right of course.  Pardon my myopia.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 05:53 AM (RkRxq)

66 I always play with bearded Marxists.

Posted by: rachel maddow's other middle finger at September 15, 2010 05:53 AM (3phFo)

67 Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2010 09:49 AM (JxMoP)

Lee, get the fuck out of that grave and get to work!

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:54 AM (AQxTm)

68 Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 09:31 AM (TMzkG)

to quote the man in the big white house "give as much as you can, even $5 helps" (so don't be shy, we don't mind begging you kids for your lunch money, as long as we get something and ha ha, my strategy worked, I'm sitting in the oval office,aren't I)

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 05:54 AM (p302b)

69 Christmas is coming! 

Commemorative Hope Baby Doll

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 15, 2010 05:54 AM (M6enm)

70 if the DE GOP had a lick of principles, they would swallow their pride and support.  The damn.  Candidate.  Just like so many of us have had to, election after election, when RINOs who sometimes insulted their.  Own.  Bases.  Were nominated again and again.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 09:46 AM (IkEhE)

Good point.

But first...you will blow me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 05:55 AM (LH6ir)

71 Anyone have a good, recent photo of Karl Rove? We anticipate requests for his face on our cartons soon and we'd like to be prepared.

Posted by: Milk Producers of America at September 15, 2010 05:55 AM (swuwV)

72 I would donate to Christine just for the hell of it but I don't want to screw up her financing and get her into trouble, me being a Canadian and all...

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:56 AM (TMzkG)

73 I thought you guys should see this right away


Sending the Jets to "sensitivity training" seems extra stupid all of a sudden.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 05:56 AM (Vz9lf)

74

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 15, 2010 09:54 AM (M6enm)

Wow, and only 150 smackers......

Posted by: maddogg at September 15, 2010 05:57 AM (OlN4e)

75 1 Is it safe?

This world is neither simple or totally safe, only a bit safer at times.

/Hope everybody played nice last night.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 05:57 AM (9hSKh)

76 @31
Well said, Gabe.

The objections to O'Donnell are largely on character and record, not ideological.  Someone can parrot all the conservative things they want (although it's beyond nutty for a candidate to speak out about masturbation), but if the life she's lead includes shady finances and outrageous lawsuits, well, bye-bye.  If I were in DE I would be pretty pissed that my choices were a liberal long-in-the-tooth career politician and a fruit-bat. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 05:58 AM (osFsP)

77 74 Christmas is coming!

Disgusting, wish I'd thought of it.  They'll sell the shit out of them.

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 05:58 AM (AQxTm)

78 Gabe,

Ohhhh, we wanted an insurgency and now we got it! You just told us buddy! Boo Fuckin Hoo, bitch. Get the fuck over it. Like your some freaking genius and the rest of us just have no idea about what we've just done.

You've proven that this opinion of yourself is vastly overrated.

It's apparent that some establishment folks have inserted tongue into your ass. They can keep their money and you can keep their tongue.



Posted by: FleshBomb at September 15, 2010 05:58 AM (Ca/zm)

79

Karl Rove's a smart guy and has run successful campaigns in the past, but he's been in DC too long to know what's really bubbling up out here in flyover country.  Rove was 110% behind the Bush amnesty ploy, which in the long run has hurt the establishment republican party and galvanized the opposition to it on the right. 

The democrat take-over of all branches of government, and the (to be expected) destruction of the US economy that followed, has the country looking for leaders who know what they're doing.  Not establishment gladhanders whose only interest in politics is skimming something off the top of the taxpayers for themselves.

Posted by: Boots at September 15, 2010 05:58 AM (06JTY)

80 *cough*

Posted by: toby's laundry service

 

Lol...

Posted by: CanaDave at September 15, 2010 05:59 AM (TMzkG)

81 I'm sure everyone's heard of this site. It's a good tool to map out the elections. http://www.270towin.com/2010_senate_election/ Looking at Rasmussen, giving Delaware and Connecticut to the Dems, if we win every other toss-up state it gives us 51/49. So we have one state in play.

Posted by: Joffen at September 15, 2010 05:59 AM (ddtXm)

82 Christmas is coming!

"crafted of collector-quality vinyl".  Much like FKOTUS' boob belts.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 05:59 AM (Vz9lf)

83

IMO, the time to talk about how shitty O'Donnell is as a candidate ended last night.  We can continue to aid the even shittier leftists or get behind this candidate and hope and apply pressure, as needed to hold the candidate to what she promised. 

Just a random thought.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 05:59 AM (RkRxq)

84 #75 LOOK AT THE TIMING. And look at her fundraising effort. You don't think for a second that they announced it as basically a "put up or shut uo" to her campaign and its supporters to self-fund? O'Donnell will likely raise $500k today thru tomorrow on this. I think it was timed deliberately and it helped her campaign maintain their momentum.

Posted by: CAC at September 15, 2010 05:59 AM (lV4Fs)

85 #79  Sending the Jets to "sensitivity training" seems extra stupid all of a sudden.

An appropriate symbol in an appropriate location.

Decadence = death!

/Agreed though that the Inez incident was overblown. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 05:59 AM (9hSKh)

86 You Moderates want to sit this one out?  Petulant?  Life not giving you exactly what you want?  Castle lost and you're pissed?  You think the campaign was so mean that it is now OK to sit on your hands and hope for failure? 

No problem.  I like knowing exactly who and what you are.  Just makes me feel better about burning down every last RINO motherfucker.

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 05:59 AM (RKpGM)

87

Gabe, what you are ignoring here is that O'Donnell won an OPEN FUCKING GOP PRIMARY! 

If by open GOP primary, you mean that all registered voters in the state were eligible to participate, that is "unfactual." DE primary is closed, only registered Republicans could vote.

Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2010 06:00 AM (+FkcS)

88 Also, since we are so concerned about CHARACTER...tell me GABE. How the FUCK does a 30 year civil servant become worth 8 MILLION DOLLARS?

Did Castle earn this ethically and legally? Please do tell. Asshole.

Posted by: FleshBomb at September 15, 2010 06:00 AM (Ca/zm)

89 10

With the dead people vote a lock thanks to Soros money, Reid desperately tries to secure the illegal alien vote:

http://tinyurl.com/2anvzh9

from sidebar headlines.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 09:30 AM (RkRxq)

It's real simple way to block the illegal alien vote. Everyone go down to the Home Depot on Election Day and hire anyone you see to go Fall clean-up on the your backyard.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:00 AM (LdYLm)

90

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama popular support has softened at home, but he still has plenty of fans in Europe, a poll released Wednesday found.

More than three-quarters of those polled in 11 European countries said they approve of Obama's handling of international policies, compared with just over half of Americans having that view.

 

Things are going so good for Barry they have to poll Euro-douches to find someone who stills loves him

 

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 15, 2010 06:00 AM (1Jaio)

91 Turkey continues to turn Islamist.
And Obama praised the results of the pro-Islamic constitutional "reform" referendum, congratulating the Islamist Turkish PM.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 15, 2010 06:01 AM (3phFo)

92 Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 09:58 AM (osFsP)

Rachel madcow was playing the videos of her talking about masturbation.   She appears to have been in college when she said that stuff.  And, her thought processes were absolutely spot on.  I looked at how she was forming her opinion and the fact that she had an opinion and the fact that it probably wasn't a popular opinion within her generation and she defended it anyway.

But, heck, is that how politics is now.   Can't wait for the headlines "New videos surface of (insert name here) stealing candy while in stroller, film at 11"

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 06:02 AM (p302b)

93 Fine O'Donald may not be the greatest candidate since sliced bread. So don't flood her campaign with Party Money. HOWEVER to come out on Primary Night and shit all over her is a low class thing for the Party and the Party Elites to do. And it shows how tone deaf not only the Democrats are but apparently also the Republicans Elites.

Totally Agree!

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 06:02 AM (AQxTm)

94 But don't stand there and stamp your foot that the NRSC, which represents the establishment, has decided to sit out in Delaware, which is running a candidate who feels the same way and which is a long shot now. That's just insane.

When the NRSC places calls for donations, they don't say, "We're here to support establishment Republicans."  They say, "We're here to get Republicans elected to congress."

I'm guessing the NRSC will be scratching their heads soon, wondering why their donations keep going down.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2010 06:03 AM (FkKjr)

95 For the record, by the way, I'm not much an O'Donnell partisan.  I have reservations any time the candidate is an unproven, inexperienced person with a questionable background (cf. Obama, Barack).  But you run the general with the candidate you have, like it or not, and that cuts both ways.  If you can't deal, then stop preaching it when it's the one you wanted, because you have no standing.

One for all, all for one, or all for naught.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 06:03 AM (IkEhE)

96 Christmas is coming! Posted by: Lady in Black at September 15, 2010 09:54 AM

I'd say something, but it's early and my mental filters haven't been initialized yet.

Ace would ban me for what I'm thinking.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 15, 2010 06:03 AM (Ulu3i)

97 Gabe, what you are ignoring here is that O'Donnell won an OPEN FUCKING GOP PRIMARY!  The NRSC is supposed to represent REPUBLICANS not the fucking establishment!  She won, get over it.  11 points is nothing in a state as small as DE with this much time left.  Castle is an abomination as a Republican.  The DE republicans have spoken.  Get on board or shut the fuck up.

In a word: NO. You guys spent the last two weeks telling us you'd rather a Democrat than Castle. Which makes your new-found Unity Shtick look pretty damn opportunistic. All the big names on your side (and many, many commenters here) already said they wouldn't support Castle over Coons, if Castle were to win the primary. So, please don't pretend that now we've all got to get in line because you're gal won. The hypocrisy is nauseating.

This is the thing that fuckin' drives me nuts about the "feelings voters." They're irrational; they can't be reasoned with. Do you think I like defending the NRSC? Hell no. I wrote posts and posts about their failings. I spent weeks bashing Cornyn for his failures over the Sotomayor nomination. There are many legitimate reasons to be angry with them.

But to be pissed off that they won't spend money in a state the polls say we're much, much further behind is not a legitimate reason to get pissed off. That's just pathetic. And irrational.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 06:04 AM (1TvCg)

98 Zen post of the day. Red & Blue don't make Yellow.

http://tinyurl.com/ybsgxqu


Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:04 AM (LdYLm)

99 Pssssst - some Republicans are really just opportunistic whores.

Posted by: David Brock at September 15, 2010 06:04 AM (7+pP9)

100  And I'm gonna repeat that for the hard of hearing: "You guys already said you'd prefer a Democrat over Castle. Which means your Unity Shtick is bullshit."

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 06:05 AM (1TvCg)

101 Damn the torpedoes, Full steam ahead!

Posted by: Admiral David Glasgow Farragut at September 15, 2010 06:06 AM (AQxTm)

102 Hey, you know what? Maybe the GOP doesn't deem O'Donnell worthy of national funds. Fine, but don't trumpet that fact on the mountaintop while dissing her before her victory speech has even left the building. I've never seen anything like that happen before and I thought Rubio, Haley, and Miller were getting raw deals.

The Republican establishment acted stupidly. They don't have to double down.

Jeebus. The Stupid Party must take not just stupid pills but extra-strength stupid pills.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 15, 2010 06:07 AM (swuwV)

103 But, heck, is that how politics is now.   Can't wait for the headlines "New videos surface of (insert name here) stealing candy while in stroller, film at 11"
Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 10:02 AM

Just saw O'Donnell on Fucks News. She's still whingeing about Castle.

I hope it was the idiot reporters keeping her from talking about what she's going to do when/if elected and not her own weirdness and lack of ideas.

But she doesn't have to sell herself to me, just to the DE voters.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 15, 2010 06:07 AM (Ulu3i)

104 Here's where we are headed, boys. Pedal to the medal!

http://tinyurl.com/23bdjb9

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:07 AM (LdYLm)

105 So the RGA (Republican Governor's Association) is writing off Colorado? Will they write off New York as well?

Posted by: Joffen at September 15, 2010 06:08 AM (ddtXm)

106 This is the thing that fuckin' drives me nuts about the "feelings voters." They're irrational; they can't be reasoned with.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 10:04 AM (1TvCg)


*golf claps*

Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2010 06:08 AM (gAmQ1)

107 Anyone know anything about Michigan's 15 congressional district? RCP just pulled it out of safe Dem and put it on their vulnerable map now- its #115 of vulnerable-to-lost Democratic seats.

Posted by: CAC at September 15, 2010 06:08 AM (lV4Fs)

108
The Republican establishment acted stupidly. They don't have to double down

There aggorance is disgusting.  It the party of the people, not the assholes in DC.

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 06:09 AM (AQxTm)

109 101

"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama popular support has softened at home, but he still has plenty of fans in Europe, a poll released Wednesday found."

-------------

Hey, Obama did give 800 large for African men to wash their dicks. Lotsa support there.

Posted by: Corona at September 15, 2010 06:09 AM (woZIc)

110 NBC poll 11% of Americans approve of Congress.
Today only 25% of Americans trust our Government.


After Bush, the RNC and Republican incumbents wanted to "remake" the GOP image, successfully tarnished as the party of corruption by the DNC.

Now the Republican establishment appears brain dead, having been GIFTED the Tea Party revolt, the only Republican life line, only to reject what they said they SAID they wanted to fight: corruption in government.

 

Posted by: maverick muse at September 15, 2010 06:09 AM (H+LJc)

111 "90

yeah about that Mexican TV reporter supposedly getting harrassed by NY Jets players:

Women shouldn't be in the locker room. Ever. Sanctum sanctorum

Posted by: Jones at September 15, 2010 09:59 AM (ZH73Z)"

You know, I totally agree with you.  But I take it a step further, I don't think anyone but those with lockers should be in the locker room.   I think we would have more talk, more discussion, more revelations in sports if people were given time to decompress, take a shower, clean up, get dressed and compose their thoughts, why they lost, how they think they won, what they are thinking.  And then I think there should be a nice lounge where the press can drink free soda and munch on chips and where they are assured every player will stop by if even just to say hello.  We have lost our civility, our respect for the individual, our respect for someone's time to be alone with themselves.  I think the sports' stories would be a lot better if people had tie to be people.

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 06:10 AM (p302b)

112 Gabe really got his feelings hurt last night didn't he? HIGH-larious!  OD doesn't need the establishment or Gabe's support in November. She proved that last night.
Still waiting for an explanation as to how a 30 year civil servant has become worth 8 million dollars since we are so concerned with finances and character.
Petulant little bitches.

Posted by: FleshBomb at September 15, 2010 06:10 AM (Ca/zm)

113 So Han’s walking down the halls of Bespin with his old friend Lando. Leia’s there, and lookin’ good. Han thinks he’s off to dinner – maybe some wine, a little flirting, and then back to the ol’ guest quarters with Her Hotness.

But the door opens, and thereÂ’s Darth Vader.

Han doesnÂ’t look incredulously at Lando; he doesnÂ’t duck or run away. What does Han do?

He starts shooting at the motherfucker. He starts shooting.

Be like Han.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:10 AM (LdYLm)

114 In a word: NO. You guys spent the last two weeks telling us you'd rather a Democrat than Castle.

Not everyone who supports and/or voted for O'Donnell would rather have a Democrat than Castle. There is an election coming up, you know.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 06:11 AM (QyzAh)

115

If by open GOP primary, you mean that all registered voters in the state were eligible to participate, that is "unfactual." DE primary is closed, only registered Republicans could vote.

Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2010 10:00 AM (+FkcS)


Sorry for the confusion but I meant that there was no incumbent R so the seat was open, not that any voter could vote.  My point is that I understand that the "establishment" supports incumbent R's (see Specter, Arlen) but should support whoever wins the primary, especially when there is no incumbent.

Posted by: Hedgehog at September 15, 2010 06:11 AM (oQIfB)

116 Disgusting, wish I'd thought of it.  They'll sell the shit out of them.

I'm still pissed I didn't think of selling cotton diapers with the logo until after the election. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 06:12 AM (Vz9lf)

117 It's nice that everyone is caught up in Delaware fever, but there are closer, more viable Senate races in NV (hey, an insurgent!), WI, WA, CA, IL (steal Obama's seat!). Even the two longer-shot races -- WV and CT -- are more likely pick-ups than Delaware now.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 06:12 AM (1TvCg)

118 It's obvious the DNC is funding O'Donnell's campaign because they want a loser like her and Palin to be the GOP's public national face going into November!!!!

Posted by: COC at September 15, 2010 06:12 AM (3phFo)

119 "You guys already said you'd prefer a Democrat over Castle. Which means your Unity Shtick is bullshit."

And you guys said the most important thing was winning the seat, regardless of how unpalatable the candidate was.  Which means your Victory at All Costs Schtick is bullshit.

Broad brushes work both ways.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2010 06:13 AM (FkKjr)

120 Holy shit MI-15 is John Dingellberry's district. internal polling puts him up 9 51-42 over unknown cardiologist Rob Steele- and his attack website against the doctor is laughable: "he made money off the health industry"- AS A FUCKING DOCTOR YOU ASSHOLE! It almost looks like a really, really bad blog.

Posted by: CAC at September 15, 2010 06:14 AM (lV4Fs)

121 Gabe, your broad brush is missing some bristles.

I've never said that.  NEVER.  But I'm also sick and tired of being told I'm the problem for preferring wolf-in-sheep's-clothing types be replaced by people who will actually, y'know, represent my views and interests.

I've swallowed my pride time and again.  Time to reciprocate.

And if you have a problem with that, Gabe, then get bent.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 06:14 AM (IkEhE)

122 OD doesn't need the establishment

Posted by: FleshBomb at September 15, 2010 10:10 AM (Ca/zm)


don't matter who you are, every politician needs the establishment's help one way or another

Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2010 06:15 AM (gAmQ1)

123 135 It's nice that everyone is caught up in Delaware fever, but there are closer, more viable Senate races in NV (hey, an insurgent!), WI, WA, CA, IL (steal Obama's seat!). Even the two longer-shot races -- WV and CT -- are more likely pick-ups than Delaware now.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 10:12 AM (1TvCg)


I don't necessarily disagree with you Gabe but why can't the NRSC congratulate her on the win and move on.  Why publicly state that they are not supporting her?  How does that help anyone?

Posted by: Hedgehog at September 15, 2010 06:16 AM (oQIfB)

124 The Republican establishment acted stupidly.

Sadly, they're not acting.

Gotta love the scorn for "feelings" voters, too.  Tell me:  How is that any different from Obama's infamous remarks about "bitter clingers"?

Answer:  Obama at least thought he was saying it privately.  The GOP and their cheerleaders are saying it openly, right to our faces.

Interesting to find out how many people are really not too far from Peter Jennings.  "The American voters had a temper tantrum last night . . . "

If nothing else, this whole Delaware fiasco has revealed some very interesting things.  About people we thought were on our side.

Posted by: tsj017 at September 15, 2010 06:16 AM (4YUWF)

125 Can't I just eat my waffles?

Posted by: Corona at September 15, 2010 06:17 AM (woZIc)

126 Sure, gird your loins.  But remember to properly wash those genitals first!

Posted by: Stimulus $$ Overlords at September 15, 2010 06:17 AM (sVu2f)

127 It is becoming more and more obvious that a revolution has begun.  A grass-roots, common-sense, conservative, movement (see what I did there).  In any revolution, there are going to be eggs, egos, and heads broken.  It's part of it.  There was no possible way for our side to re-establish power both in the party and in the country as a whole without some rough moments.  It's impossible to accomplish what we're trying to accomplish in a smooth, linear, everyone gets along fashion.  If those dynamics were in place, we wouldn't need a revolution.  If the R leadership was doing the right things and choosing the right principals and candidates, we wouldn't need a revolution.  So, let's get through this and move forward.

With all of that said, I believe it is possible, just possible that the OD win may pay very large dividends in the future, even if we don't win the immediate g/e.  Think the main twins haven't noticed their kindred spirits being ushered out?  Think the "leadership" isn't taking note, between tantrums, and trying to figure out how to harness the energy and move right so they remain leaders?

If ODs win helps drag the entire party back to the right, setting up more solid candidates and decisions in the future, then it can be another step in the journey of a 1000 miles back towards smaller, conservative government. 

The revolution has started.  The "leadership" on our side can push/ pull towards victory or get the f out of the way. 

Posted by: The Hammer at September 15, 2010 06:17 AM (32ubA)

128 Eyes readed...

Exciting First Look At Barack Obama's "Of Thee I Sing: A Letter To My Daughters"


You'll laugh. You'll cry. It will change your life...or something.

Now that is funny.

Posted by: CUS at September 15, 2010 06:17 AM (wOGfT)

129 Steady, now morons, lets not eat out young.

Remember how we made fun of the hill people and their bitterness?

Let's relax.  We got a lemon, lets make lemonade.

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 06:19 AM (AQxTm)

130 really....a children's book....because he has sooooooo much time on his hands?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 06:20 AM (eOXTH)

131 Now for the finishing touch...we change the Tea Party name to...Zombies! Feast, my children! Heh.

Posted by: Corona at September 15, 2010 06:20 AM (woZIc)

132 I know! We'll sing campfire songs! That'll unify us! She'll be comin' round the mountain when she comes! Yee Haw! [crickets] How bout them Skins, eh? [Crickets] This place is going to be pretty tense till November...

Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2010 06:20 AM (RD7QR)

133 Jones: "I deemed the GOP not worthy of my funds 4 years ago..."

I'm right there with you. Amnesty aka "Comprehensive POS" did it for me. Guess what? That was the Rove et al. strategy too. Yep. What a brilliant move that was.

Giving straight to the candidate is the only way to go, especially with grassroots Tea Party interests shining light on the competition. Greatest thing since sliced bread.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 15, 2010 06:21 AM (swuwV)

134 really....a children's book....because he has sooooooo much time on his hands?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 10:20 AM (eOXTH)


he wrote it before he was in office

Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2010 06:22 AM (gAmQ1)

135

I was for O'Donnell before Ace was against her, then I saw what she looked like and well...you know the rest.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at September 15, 2010 06:22 AM (pr+up)

136 the sorts of 'RINO or nothing' attitudes I was seeing in the posts regarding Delaware leading up to this.

No, those were "victory or nothing" attitudes. I haven't had much to say about the Delaware race, but I know what I've seen here.

Posted by: arhooley at September 15, 2010 06:23 AM (ECHH9)

137 44...sorry Maddog, didn't mean to hijack your lead/follow quote...

Gabe, if the leadership can't be counted on the make intelligent decisions, even in tough circumstances, are they really leaders?  The timing/announcement last night was, as others have pointed out, more evidence that they just don't get it. 

Be unhappy with the result, fine.  But don't react to it in a way that aids/comforts the enemy.  It's politics 101 and they flanged up big time last night. 

Posted by: The Hammer at September 15, 2010 06:24 AM (32ubA)

138 160 This is the thing that fuckin' drives me nuts about the "feelings voters." They're irrational; they can't be reasoned with.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 10:04 AM (1TvCg)

And don't end sentences with prepositions.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 06:25 AM (zX2Lm)

139 161

>he someone else wrote it before he was in office

I thought he was organizing communities n' shit

Posted by: Jones at September 15, 2010 10:24 AM (ZH73Z)

FIFY

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:25 AM (LdYLm)

140

RNC-the PEOPLE elected Christine O'Donnell. So why don't you work with the people and support her, rather than taking your toys and going home? What whiny-babies.

Exactly. Had Castle won, I am sure O'Donnell's camp would have sucked it up and supported him. But the RINOs never play with the team, from Nelson Rockefeller to John Anderson to now.

And I respect those who for pragmatic reasons urged a Castle vote.

But the primary is over. If the NRSC won't pull together now, then they are less than useless.

 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 15, 2010 06:26 AM (ujg0T)

141 he wrote it someone wrote it for him before he was in office

FIFY.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 06:26 AM (Vz9lf)

142

This place is going to be pretty tense till November...

Yeah, gonna be a long fall.

Posted by: HH at September 15, 2010 06:26 AM (6oDXl)

143 Perfect marathon for the Big O:

http://tinyurl.com/32y6apf

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:27 AM (LdYLm)

144 But it's pretty fuckin' precious that folks who vow to dismantle the "GOP establishment" are now all butt-hurt that the "establishment" won't pay for the privilege. GTFOOH, you must be joking.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 15, 2010 09:38 AM (1TvCg)


Well fuck you too Gabe.

Years of being told 'Support the party, support the party.' and I did. 

Now, that the shoe is on the other foot.  We are told to fuck off and die?


Fuck you.


Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2010 06:27 AM (4uhuW)

145

Kemp, I think one of the great things about this recent primary, indeed this entire primary season, is that it has brought clarity to the situation in which the Republican party currently finds itself. This fight has been a long time coming.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2010 09:49 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by "clarity." If O'Donnell loses by a landslide, will that be included in your "clarity"? How about a nightmare scenario in which she loses, and we lose the Senate majority by one vote?

Have to get out of the house now, so I'm not ducking your answer.

Posted by: arhooley at September 15, 2010 06:27 AM (ECHH9)

146 Something no one is tlking about.  The Democrat "civil war"

Congressional Democrats are confronting deep divisions in their nervous ranks over whether to support President Barack Obama's plan to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans — or just punt the entire matter until after voters go to the polls Nov. 2.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 15, 2010 06:27 AM (7rfUg)

147 Their website just changed, now they're 70% of the way towards a $200,000 goal.

Posted by: Charvanek at September 15, 2010 06:28 AM (BFm2s)

148 166 he wrote it someone wrote it for him before he was in office

FIFY.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 10:26 AM (Vz9lf)

Jinx, you owe me a Coke

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:28 AM (LdYLm)

149

As a supporter of her totally grassroots candidacy, you look silly screaming at the establishment when they won't give you money after you won. You also lose a bit of your legitimacy as an outsider.

 

So are you saying that in order to qualify for financial support from the Republican fund committees as a Republican running in a general election you are not allowed to run a grassroots campaign? ODonnell ran against the establishment in DE.  Miller ran against the establishment in AK.  Angle ran against the establishment in NV.  Are they not getting assistance from the NRSC?

YES. If you run with an (R) in a (R) primary and win and you support the republican party platform, you should get (R) money.

REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD NOT GET REPUBLICAN MONEY.

 

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 06:29 AM (zX2Lm)

150

he wrote it before he was in office

Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2010 10:22 AM (gAmQ1)

NO, he signed the book deal 5 days prior to becoming President, i.e. he entered into contract to write a book at that time.

Posted by: CDR M at September 15, 2010 06:29 AM (y67bA)

151

153 -

I don't think so. Many Republican candidates are doing well in their respective races. I'm thrilled that Pat Toomey is ahead of Sleazestak by 9 per cent. And Pat Toomey is an establishment candidate. Whodathunk?

Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2010 06:29 AM (+FkcS)

152 Ace is gonna need daily flame threads at this rate, maybe twice a day!

Posted by: CDR M at September 15, 2010 06:30 AM (BuYeH)

153 So are you saying that in order to qualify for financial support from the Republican fund committees as a Republican running in a general election you are not allowed to run a grassroots campaign?

The NRSC clearly said that the determining factor is likelihood of O'Donnell's victory against Coons.  Since it's dinky, they're not going to waste limited funds on her when there are squeakers in California and elsewhere.

Posted by: arhooley at September 15, 2010 06:30 AM (ECHH9)

154 Posted by: polynikes Doesn't it seem like almost every genuine debate eventually ends up with at least one side calling the other some variation of "insane and not worth talking to...". It's why 90% of these arguments aren't worth the pixels they consume. The endings are predetermined.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 15, 2010 06:30 AM (EHI/u)

155

If you can't beat the cordoba mosque, compete with it:

http://tinyurl.com/2ehd8hn

Sent there by Carl in Jerusalem

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 06:30 AM (RkRxq)

156 Heh. I wrote yesterday that they would do this. It's hilarious and tragic that after spending weeks lambasting those who disagree as RINOs and traitors, particularly the NRSC, the O'Donnell folks can sit there with a straight face and expect the RINOs and traitors to spend time and money on her campaign. You wanted an insurgency. Congratulations.

Fact: polls have O'Donnell 11 points behind. The GOP has closer Senate races in NV, WA, WI, CA, IL, WV, and CT and limited funds. We should be spending those funds on the closer Senate races that we're more likely to win. If the first round of post-primary polls shows O'Donnell in a better position than that then we can re-compute.

But it's pretty fuckin' precious that folks who vow to dismantle the "GOP establishment" are now all butt-hurt that the "establishment" won't pay for the privilege. GTFOOH, you must be joking.

My hope is that the GOP tsunami is so great that the Delaware race won't matter for retaking the Senate.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor

Fact: The establishment here in Delaware annointed one person and ran a campaign that backfired badly. I was giving warnings about this for weeks. It was not an insurgency here so much as people taking advantage of the first real primary in years, and a party taking those same people for granted.

Fact: Many here, including myself, stressed that neither side should adopt this pig ignorant attitude the day after.

Fact: Less than a day after the primary win, you're writing off the Delaware race, hiding behind money

Fact: If Castle won, and an O'Donnell supporter had said something nearly this malicious, you'd be deside yourself.

Fact: I voted for Castle.

Fact: It is very interesting to note that you never adopted until now the "No one should give her any money if she wins" bit until after the primary.

Fact: next time, stay the Hell out of Delaware and her politics. You've proven yourself to be no friend or help. So stop with the meddling.

I understand that this is Ace's blog, and that you a co-blogger. If either of you have a problem with what I've said, Ace can contact me. He has my real e-mail address and my real name.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 06:30 AM (R2fpr)

157 115 Sometimes I read what I just posted...
----------------
Well, there's your problem, right there.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 15, 2010 06:30 AM (6fER6)

158 Screw lemonade. I want lemon pudding.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 06:31 AM (QyzAh)

159 Although I suppose one could write a children's book in 5 days.

Posted by: CDR M at September 15, 2010 06:31 AM (Mv/2X)

160

>Let's relax.  We got a lemon, lets make lemonade.

would prefer lemon meringue pie

Posted by: Jones at September 15, 2010 10:21 AM (ZH73Z)

I wan a lemon pawty.

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at September 15, 2010 06:31 AM (7+pP9)

161 Can we go back to hating the Democrats now?

Posted by: Whatever at September 15, 2010 06:32 AM (Jn1t+)

162

I don't think so. Many Republican candidates are doing well in their respective races. I'm thrilled that Pat Toomey is ahead of Sleazestak by 9 per cent. And Pat Toomey is an establishment candidate. Whodathunk?

Ahem.

Posted by: GOP Establishment who backed Spector at September 15, 2010 06:32 AM (ujg0T)

163 The chances of losing the Senate majority by one vote are slim.  The chances of a RINO cocksucker like Castle selling us out with that one vote when the going gets tough is around 75%.  I'm willing to take that gamble. 

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 06:32 AM (RKpGM)

164 #163  And don't end sentences with prepositions.

That is a rule up with which I will not put.

Posted by: Winston Churchill (supposedly - no "real" source though) at September 15, 2010 06:32 AM (9hSKh)

165

So Gabe thinks that all Republican money flows from the far left of the party or perhaps independents who decided to donate to "republicans"? How is it "establishment" money, as we define "establishment" now--as in votes with democrats 50% of the time and be addicted to earmarks and big spending?

I saw both sides to this election but I'm quickly going over to the "nuts and sluts" side because of the incredibly poor, immature, and destructive behavior of the "establishment".

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 06:33 AM (zX2Lm)

166 Since it's dinky, they're not going to waste limited funds on her when there are squeakers in California and elsewhere.

Posted by: arhooley at September 15, 2010 10:30 AM (ECHH9)

From what I've read on the interwebs this morning, I suspect those funds are going to become even more limited because of this.

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2010 06:34 AM (VuLos)

167

I'm thrilled that Pat Toomey is ahead of Sleazestak by 9 per cent. And Pat Toomey is an establishment candidate. Whodathunk?

Posted by: kallisto at September 15, 2010 10:29 AM (+FkcS)

Not me.

Posted by: Rick Santorum at September 15, 2010 06:34 AM (7+pP9)

168 Can we go back to hating the Democrats now?

Posted by: Whatever

 

Sorry, but Gabe is too busy hating on the uppity Delaware Republicans. being Irish, I'm not inclined to back off from any fight.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 06:34 AM (R2fpr)

169

And don't end sentences with prepositions.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 10:25 AM (zX2Lm)

Say what?

Posted by: Yoda at September 15, 2010 06:34 AM (cqZXM)

170 About conservatives taking back the Senate.

If not now, when?

if not O'Donnell, who? 

Those backing away from C O'D must be using the same playbook the Senate Republicans have been using. 



Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2010 06:34 AM (4uhuW)

171

 It's hilarious and tragic that after spending weeks lambasting those who disagree as RINOs and traitors, particularly the NRSC, the O'Donnell folks can sit there with a straight face and expect the RINOs and traitors to spend time and money on her campaign. You wanted an insurgency. Congratulations.

As opposed to the NRSC and other establishment organs who smeared O'Donnell over, under, sideways, down and up, and who always tell us to suck it up and play with the team when one of theirs wins a primary? Seriously....

Again, I respect you, Ace and others who were just being pragmatic. But fuck the NRSC and other Establishment if they act like this. 

 

Posted by: GOP Establishment who backed Spector at September 15, 2010 06:35 AM (ujg0T)

172 sock off, ack

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 15, 2010 06:35 AM (ujg0T)

173

There are some pretty good posts up at Instapundit on "establishment" politics and the drubbing they are taking on both sides.

Unfortunately for the Dems, their lame ass coffee party folded like a cheap suit so all they have is thier solitary lameness and failed ideology.

Dems new slogan:

We thought we could, but we were fucking idiots.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 06:35 AM (RkRxq)

174 Morning M & Ms.  Georgia Republican voters have shot themselves in the foot again.  Instead of backing Karen Handel, they went with Nathan Deal. 

This morning's front page in the local fish wrap:

Deal facing loss of home

Gubernatorial candidate has $2 million business loan to repay after helping daughter and son-in-law's failed sporting goods store.


Just freaking awesome.  Sigh.  Looks like Roy Barnes will get another shot at screwing up the state some more.  The Tea Party backed Karen and no one listened. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 15, 2010 06:36 AM (UOM48)

175 Weekly Standard (Stephen Hayes) pissing on Christine on Fox News

Posted by: ingenus at September 15, 2010 06:36 AM (+sBB4)

176 France's National Assembly approves plan to raise retirement age from 60 to 62 http://bit.ly/dnJWvi

Oh noes, it's the end of the world!  We'll have to wait a whole 2 years before our generous pensions that our country cannot afford.  Riot!  Strike! 

Posted by: French gits at September 15, 2010 06:37 AM (9hSKh)

177
That's fine.

Keep giving us Castles and McCains and we'll just start a third party. And in 2 years we'll be bigger than the Republican party.

I've had it with the Republican party. They're ruled by a noisy little minority that have nothing in the common with the rank & file. Well they can have the damn party because the rank & file is leaving.

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 06:37 AM (uFokq)

178 Guys, we're not taking back the Senate. Too many things need to break our way. I'll settle for 51 Dem 49 Rep (assuming that Lieberman and Sanders caucus with the Dems).

Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2010 06:37 AM (RD7QR)

179 Weekly Standard (Stephen Hayes) pissing on Christine on Fox News

Posted by: ingenus

 

Is there a way that O'Donnell can be replaced with Castle or some other party approved corpse? If so, I can understand this. BUt if not, why continue? All they have to do is say "ooohh pretty flower" and most eyes will be averted.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 06:38 AM (R2fpr)

180 From that site we're not suppose to link.  Begins with a P and ends with an tico:

A senior aide to Rep. Mike Castle told POLITICO the nine-term congressman will not be endorsing newly minted GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell. "She is a con artist who won by lying about Castle's positions and her own life," said Kate Dickens, a Castle aide. "Out of state support was enough to pull her through yesterday so she can rely on it through November."

Classy....

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2010 06:39 AM (VuLos)

181 On a side note, Washington DC just picked Grey over Fenty as their mayoral candidate (de facto since only dems can win). Fenty had the balls to try to fix the failed school system in DC and the Teachers Union went nuts and suggested Fenty hated black people (btw everyone in the story is black). The "establishment" in DC is corrupt, vicious, criminal, sleezebags. They went after Fenty because he didn't play Marion Barry ball, essentially he wasn't corrupt enough for them.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 06:39 AM (zX2Lm)

182 #26  Lemon Kitten  I agree he seems out of touch.   When I read his book,  I was struck by how many events which were big deals with the grass roots and on the internet hardly got a mention.  (Demonstrating in front of Gore's house,  Ted Kennedy's calling Bush a liar,  the build-up to the Iraq War,  etc.)   It's almost like he was in a bubble and didn't really know what was happening out in the country.

Much of his political knowledge is numbers and traditional thinking about trends.

I think he's still in the bubble.  Last night he looked to me like someone whose complete world-view had been demolished.  

I am beginning to wonder if Bush's wins weren't mostly due to Bush's force of personality,  his likeability,  and the luck of having detestable opponents (Gore and Kerry).  I think Rove has been in politics for so long that he doesn't really meet any average people,  and he doesn't understand what we are thinking.

I also learned that he is the one who counseled Bush not answering the accusations of lying.  That worked well,  didn't it?  Another example of how he didn't understand what the grassroots were thinking.

Posted by: Miss Marple at September 15, 2010 06:39 AM (bixjr)

183

Listen up, you bitter-clinger RINO supporters! This November the Tea Party Movement is going to seize and occupy Obama's support base in the congress. That will enable us to cut off his supply chain of money and goods. Once he is isolated and weak he will sue for peace and offer negotiations. All will be refused and all will be put to the sword. Their villages will be burned, the land seeded with salt.

You pillow biting RINO supporters had best make up you mind which side you are on. Status Quo or CHANGE.

Posted by: Doug The Impaler at September 15, 2010 06:40 AM (FlPOW)

184

OMFG I'm so sick of people saying O'Donnell can't win in Nov...

BULLSHIT. She CAN Win.

From the State of Delaware elections results webpage:

Total Republican statewide turnout: 32%

Total Democrat statewide turnout: 12%

There were several state level primaries, and one district had both Republican and Democrat candidates for that district. The turnout in that district alone was almost 2:1 for the Republican primary compared to the Democrat primary.

On Average, across the nation the Republicans (with TEA party help) are consistently running a 2.5:1 or 3:1 turnout ratio compared to the Democrats.

Can you people not understand the energy IS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE STATE??? IN BIG FREAKING NUMBERS???

Too many of you are entirely TOO GODDAM NEGATIVE.

To the GOP Establishment:

GROW THE FUCK UP.

Posted by: FreedomFighter at September 15, 2010 06:40 AM (XHR9b)

185 203
That's fine.

Keep giving us Castles and McCains and we'll just start a third party. And in 2 years we'll be bigger than the Republican party.

I've had it with the Republican party. They're ruled by a noisy little minority that have nothing in the common with the rank & file. Well they can have the damn party because the rank & file is leaving.

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 10:37 AM (uFokq)

(If you are going to be a pirate, talk like a pirate. I translated your rant this time)

Ahoy, that's fine.

Keep gi'in' us Castles and Mccains and we'll just start a third party. And in 2 years we'll be bigger than the Mangy rat party.

I''e had it with the Grungy bilge rat party. They're ruled by a noisy little minority that have nothin' in the common with the rank & file. Well they can have the damn party because the rank & file is lea'in'. Gar.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:40 AM (LdYLm)

186 Gabe makes a valid point, if we wanted a revolutionary in there, it's up to us to support them now. That is incredibly childish of the GOP, and will in the end, bite them in the ass. But if that's how they want to play, let's show them once and for all who is more powerful, them or the people. Let's just see. Put up or shut up time. Sounds like we are puttin' up.

Posted by: RevMacDaddyZion at September 15, 2010 06:40 AM (GvYeG)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 15, 2010 06:40 AM (Vz9lf)

188 Gird your loins, -especially if you have tiny genitalia.

Posted by: TSA Screening Supervisor at September 15, 2010 06:40 AM (GwPRU)

189 "Like watching paint dry"
Petraeus Concedes War in Afghanistan Could Take Another 10 Years
after which another and another 10 years...

Posted by: maverick muse at September 15, 2010 06:41 AM (H+LJc)

190 A senior aide to Rep. Mike Castle told POLITICO the nine-term congressman will not be endorsing newly minted GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell. "She is a con artist who won by lying about Castle's positions and her own life," said Kate Dickens, a Castle aide. "Out of state support was enough to pull her through yesterday so she can rely on it through November."

Classy....

Posted by: Tami

 

And the NSRC would be considered in-state how exactly? And Castle never took out of state money???

If you folks think that this blog is hopping, imagine the next Republican local meeting here.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 06:41 AM (R2fpr)

191
Guys, we're not taking back the Senate.

Finally, a realist!

Some of you don't realize that we could have a landslide victory in November and still not retake either chamber.

We're so deep in the hole, we need to have a landslide victory just get even with the Democrats.

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 06:41 AM (uFokq)

192 Look assholes, we are only going to support the Republicans that WE want..

Posted by: NRSCC at September 15, 2010 06:42 AM (DYJjQ)

193 174 - Dagny

If you run with an (R) in a (R) primary and win and you support the republican party platform, you should get (R) money.

REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD NOT GET REPUBLICAN MONEY.

Newsletter. Subscribe. All that shit.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at September 15, 2010 06:43 AM (HpT9p)

194

#212: Totally, And Even if she *can't* win, *the fight is worth it.*

Do well-meaning amateurs make dumb mistakes? All the time. This does not mean we are supposed to eat our experienced RINO excrement sandwich and like it.

And the primary is over, so your turn to suck it up, NRSC.

 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 15, 2010 06:44 AM (ujg0T)

195 A senior aide to Rep. Mike Castle told POLITICO the nine-term congressman will not be endorsing newly minted GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell. "She is a con artist who won by lying about Castle's positions and her own life," said Kate Dickens, a Castle aide. "Out of state support was enough to pull her through yesterday so she can rely on it through November."

Classy....

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2010 10:39 AM (VuLos)

In the end, it just shows that the current establishment need to be flushed, that all politicians from the establishment are the same.  They see themselves as entitled and can't stomach not being see so by those beneath them. 

Bottom line to O'Donnell winning - we got rid of an establishment prick.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 06:44 AM (RkRxq)

196 We only support RINOs!

Posted by: NRSC at September 15, 2010 06:45 AM (+sBB4)

197 220 Look assholes, we are only going to support the Republicans that WE want..

Posted by: NRSCC at September 15, 2010 10:42 AM (DYJjQ)

Cause my wife is not going to put out if I put a hard-core, pro-life, gun-loving Christian on the ticket.

Posted by: NSRSCC at September 15, 2010 06:45 AM (LdYLm)

198
dude, I'm a pirate, I'm not from the east end of London

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 06:45 AM (uFokq)

199 Those backing away from C O'D must be using the same playbook the Senate Republicans have been using.

EXACTLY.  And that playbook has worked so well for them!

Posted by: tsj017 at September 15, 2010 06:45 AM (4YUWF)

200 I thought the R establishment wants the Tea Party energy, commitment, dollars, etc.

At least it seemed like they were trying to woo them for many months now.

From the looks of things, I'd bet less money goes to the establishment now based on this latest flub.  They are not really that smart, are they?

Oh.... O'D is 75% (150k) towards the 200k goal.

Great strategery R's.  Way to keep the enthusiasm level up in the troops. 

Posted by: I Heart Chomsky at September 15, 2010 06:46 AM (TZI/v)

201 I other news, popcorn futures up 30%.

Posted by: Kemp at September 15, 2010 06:46 AM (vSiVD)

202 There's also a Libertarian Party candidate running in DE named Jim Rash. "This November, give Delaware a Rash!"

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 06:46 AM (mHQ7T)

203 226
dude, I'm a pirate, I'm not from the east end of London

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 10:45 AM (uFokq)

September 19th is National Talk Like A Pirate Day

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:46 AM (LdYLm)

204 Kill them.  Kill them ALL.

Posted by: Emperor Palpatine at September 15, 2010 06:46 AM (4YUWF)

205 Listen up, you bitter-clinger RINO supporters!

Yes, those bitter clinging RINO supporters with antipathy for those who are different, those who choose to FIGHT politicians entrenched in government corruption,  namely the Tea Party.

Less than 25% of Americans trust our government today.
About 11% of Americans trust Congress.
That's the untrustworthy RINO Party being rejected by America.

Work with what we have to accomplish what we must to maintain Liberty dependent upon our Constitutional Government.

Posted by: maverick muse at September 15, 2010 06:47 AM (H+LJc)

206

Gird?

or Grill?

Posted by: SukitTREBEK at September 15, 2010 06:48 AM (jBC6p)

207
Now
Rinos
Can
Suck
Copious
Cock

Posted by: NRSCC at September 15, 2010 06:48 AM (DYJjQ)

208 I other news, popcorn futures up 30%.

And Depends futures are through the roof in DC!

Just imagine the pants-wetting that's going on there this morning.

It gives me a warm, tingly feeling (but not from pants-wetting).

Posted by: tsj017 at September 15, 2010 06:48 AM (4YUWF)

209 #50  Turkey continues to turn Islamist.  Lebanon will shortly be forced to subjugate itself to complete Syrian control.  Egypt's Mubarak is nearing the end of his sojourn on earth and Egypt will likely become islamized.  (They've been producing hundreds of M1A1 tanks under license for years.  This would be a phenomenal prize for the islamists.)

Not to mention how much of the $60 billion dollar arms largesse we plan to give to the Saudis will eventually end up in Islamist hands.

/In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: French gits at September 15, 2010 06:49 AM (9hSKh)

210 209. I wanted to talk about the thing in DC. Let's get back to hating the Demo's eh? Fenty was a good one, good ideas, sensible, really making progress in DC. So they (the unions who run the Ds) got rid of him. This is really bad news for DC. I know enough sensible Democrats to think that our friend AoS pirate might really be on to something . . . maybe we take the non-crazy Dems with the non-pooftery Rs. . . it's not like it hasn't happened before (new parties forming). maybe this is the time. I hate to see what is happening in the Democratic Party. it's way worse than whatever stupidity the elephants are up to.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 15, 2010 06:49 AM (SB0V2)

211 Bottom line to O'Donnell winning - we got rid of an establishment prick.

Let's elect Nero and watch this shit burn!

Posted by: I Love the Smell of Pyrrhic Victory in the Morning at September 15, 2010 06:49 AM (mHQ7T)

212

Wow.

The same people who were slapping at (and missing) the anti-establishment supporters over supporting "the winner" in the end are now...

Saying they think it's RIGHT that the establishment isn't going to support the candidate who just beat them at their own game.

If O'Donnell wasn't a Republican, then the RNC shouldn't support her.

She is, meaning she is now part of the establishment, meaning she has won the support of the establishment regardless of the message she used to get her there. 

But, I would never, EVER expect the same group of people who would sell out their conservative principles to support a RINO to not be a batch of lying, illogical hypocrites who'll change their tune the second they don't get their way.

Posted by: BB at September 15, 2010 06:49 AM (qF8q3)

213 Delaware would have gone much more smoothly if we didn't have to depend on the proles, uh, those wonderful people to vote for our pick.


Posted by: The NRSC at September 15, 2010 06:50 AM (4uhuW)

214

Blue Hen,

You're doing more to bring this issue into clear focus than either Ace or Gabriel.  I thank you.

I'll support the Conservative candidate...

Posted by: Jess at September 15, 2010 06:51 AM (eqsrg)

215 236 When is Talk like a Cockney Bootblack Day, guvnor?

Posted by: toby928 at September 15, 2010 10:48 AM (S5YRY)


Daan't kna, sir. it's above me Corn on the bloomin' Cob level.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 15, 2010 06:51 AM (LdYLm)

216

"he wrote it before he was in office"

Who?  Bill Ayers?

Posted by: reason at September 15, 2010 06:52 AM (sPO/s)

217 Hey I haven't read all the comments yet, but I'll assume the O'Donnell/Castle fight is over now that the primary is over. Right?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 06:52 AM (QyzAh)

218

Well I guess the Democrats wont have to spend one red cent in Deleware

THE RINOS ARE DOING ALL THE DEMOCRATS DIRTY WORK FOR THEM

WAY TO GO RINOS

Posted by: SukitTREBEK at September 15, 2010 06:53 AM (jBC6p)

219

Too many of you are entirely TOO GODDAM NEGATIVE.

To the GOP Establishment:

GROW THE FUCK UP.

Posted by: FreedomFighter at September 15, 2010 10:40 AM (XHR9b)


Hear fucking hear!!

Posted by: Hedgehog at September 15, 2010 06:53 AM (oQIfB)

220

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (QyzAh)


Some drunken hangovers but I think it's dying down.


Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2010 06:53 AM (4uhuW)

221 September 19th is National Talk Like A Pirate Day

Maybe he'll be "off the blob" by then, can have a nice invigorating douche and go ask his boss for a raise like this, "Arrr, can Me have a raise? A pence for an old man o'de sea?"

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 06:53 AM (mHQ7T)

222 ODonnell ran against the establishment in DE.  Miller ran against the establishment in AK.  Angle ran against the establishment in NV.  Are they not getting assistance from the NRSC?

Mike Castle was one of theirs.  A chosen man.  A loyal spear carrier.  A candidate K Street could work with.  He paid his dues and it was time to for the political aristocracys to award Castle his fief.

And Angle and Miller?  Well, they're out West.  There's nothing out West but cowboys, NRA types, and other sorts of kooky barbarians. Not to mention that Delaware is very close to the Emerald City, which means the bastards are at the gates.

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2010 06:53 AM (HjPtV)

223 The NRSC should have done for O'Donnell what it is doing for other Senatorial Candidates most likely to fail in their race.  Buy $500,000-$700,000 in the last two weeks of October.

Completely shutting her off is impolitic.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 15, 2010 06:54 AM (7rfUg)

224 243 NRCSCC?

Posted by: toby928 at September 15, 2010 10:49 AM (S5YRY) 

Select text below to see:

national republican cock-sucking congressional committee

Posted by: NSRSCC at September 15, 2010 06:54 AM (LdYLm)

225

Fuck Castle and the establishment GOP; donate to candidates directly. No more $$s to the national party until they bow to US the People.

It smells like a Union.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 15, 2010 06:54 AM (Q6Mjq)

226

Gabriel Malor,

Thank you for your kind words of support. I certainly appreciate your delicate sentiments and your refusal to kowtow to the tea-baggers partiers. Politics is just so dirty sometimes. Thanks again!!

Your "Pal",

Mike  

Posted by: Mike Castle at September 15, 2010 06:54 AM (o7EOv)

227

Yet more objective proof of the dangers of illicit drugs on the ability to think rationally.

http://tinyurl.com/2526zsy

Elder of Zion

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (RkRxq)

228 I guess Mike Castle will have trouble paying his mortgage now.  Christine can send him a mattress if he needs one.

Posted by: ingenus at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (+sBB4)

229 If O'Donnell loses by 3 points would that mean she could have won if she had had more help?

Posted by: eman at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (zCAXm)

230
Serious question about Castle's vote for Kucinich's Bush impeachment:

It is said Castle voted for it just to get it out of committee (to get to the floor?) to where it would be defeated.

This is the question: Was Castle's vote *necessary* to do just that? In other words, was Castle's vote a pivotal vote on the matter?

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (uFokq)

231 Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 10:30 AM (R2fpr)

Blue Hen I have read every one of your posts about this and the two other Delaware posters.  It has truly been an education and in many ways, in the very beginning when you were articulating your frustrations with the DE GOP you sort of called the race ahead of time but didn't know it.  I would venture to guess, were you not reading all the stuff about "losing a seat versus principle" on this blog that you might have pulled the lever for Christine if not just out of frustration with the GOP in your state.

I'm a New Yorker as my dad says "born and bred", sometimes I LOL at what people think about New York and New Yorkers and I'm a down stater so we are really the ones they love to hate.  I gasped last night by what I saw.  I gave money to a dem, yep to a dem, a person I thought really deserved the slot, they lost and that loss spoke volumes to me and others.  Suffice it to say, I can't find the GOP in NYS, it seems to have melted into the democratic party.

So I know where you are coming from.  I learned here that you and the other delewareans really know your state.  Heck all you need is for a few independents and a few "conservative dems" to vote for O'Donnell and you have an upset.

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (p302b)

232 Hey I haven't read all the comments yet, but I'll assume the O'Donnell/Castle fight is over now that the primary is over. Right?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (QyzAh)

Yes, we're discussing quilting. 

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (VuLos)

233 Posted by: polynikes I'm definitely not innocent either, but sometimes it happens too quickly and prematurely trashes the whole topic. I actually enjoyed both the AK and the DE races. I almost had a heart attack during the Scott Brown campaign though, so I can relate to people getting a beat overheated.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (EHI/u)

234 252 Hey I haven't read all the comments yet, but I'll assume the O'Donnell/Castle fight is over now that the primary is over. Right? Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (QyzAh) You're a funny guy, MI. I kill you last.

Posted by: joncelli the Commando at September 15, 2010 06:55 AM (RD7QR)

235 So if the Republican party takes its toys home in Delaware, and the Tea Partiers take their toys home (nationally) in response, what does the Republican party win?


Posted by: I Heart Chomsky at September 15, 2010 06:56 AM (TZI/v)

236
Hey I haven't read all the comments yet, but I'll assume the O'Donnell/Castle fight is over now that the primary is over. Right?

Yeah, not really.

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 06:57 AM (uFokq)

237

This is from yesterday, but whatever.

Hartford City Council thought it would be a good idea to have a Muslim prayer. People not happy, strangely enough. They switch it to a moment of silence, leading to this brilliant journalistic turn of phrase:

However, some who attended MondayÂ’s prayer vigil said the silence is letting the haters have the last word.

via JWF.

I'm going to use that in the next argument I have. "My silence is the last word on the subject."

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 15, 2010 06:57 AM (XdlcF)

238 270 252 Hey I haven't read all the comments yet, but I'll assume the O'Donnell/Castle fight is over now that the primary is over. Right?
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (QyzAh)


You're a funny guy, MI. I kill you last.

Posted by: joncelli the Commando at September 15, 2010 10:55 AM (RD7QR)


Remember, MI, when I promised to kill you last? ...I lied.

Posted by: Sock Joncelli at September 15, 2010 06:58 AM (LdYLm)

239 In a word: NO. You guys spent the last two weeks telling us you'd rather a Democrat than Castle.

No, Gabe - what we've been telling you is a choice between a Democrat and a Conservative is better than a choice between a Democrat and...another Democrat.  If Castle had won, we would have gained...what?  A Republican who votes along Democrat party lines.  So what's the fuckin' difference?  At least, this way, there's a chance of someone getting in who shares the values that the Republican party USED to stand for.

Posted by: antisocialist at September 15, 2010 06:58 AM (Rwudm)

240 243 NRCSCC?

Posted by: toby928 at September 15, 2010 10:49 AM (S5YRY)


Not Really Completely Serious Congressional Committee.

Rival to the Not Really Serious Congressional Committee.  Competition, don'cha know.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 06:58 AM (IkEhE)

241

If O'Donnell loses by 3 points would that mean she could have won if she had had more help?

Hey, what if she loses 51-49 and we miss the Senate by 51-49?  How would that be for poetic justice?

Posted by: BB at September 15, 2010 06:59 AM (qF8q3)

242 We joke about no lead ever being safe and that the Republican party is the stupid party and can still screw this up...Now it's becoming real.  The establishment R party is going to piss off the independents and Tea party folks who are providing the enthusiasm and energy to this political season.  Keep fucking that chicken guys, it's working...

Posted by: Hedgehog at September 15, 2010 06:59 AM (oQIfB)

243 Let's say a Castle is the tie-breaking, determining seat. How much power do you think he would then hold? Now, which party would be willing to part with more money and goodies to get his critical vote which already gravitates fairly liberally on some rather large issues (see Cap & Tax)?

Do you see the problem with a Castle-like win?

Now, imagine the other "moderate" Republicans - let's say there are 5 to 10 viables - who each can play the same game as a Castle? Do you really see an overwhelmingly positive winning strategy here if you reinforce the liberal wing of the "conservative" side even if you win chairmanships and schedule?

We've done the moderating angle for years. It failed miserably and tarnished the GOP almost irreparably. The nation has moved Left, we are bankrupt, and government is as intrusive as it has ever been. What insanity it is to repeat the formula that got us here. The only salvation has been the historical collapse of the Democrats due to the Marxist-in-Chief and his Congressional Progressive caucus. It has had pretty little to do with the GOP doing anything other than tossing up a few roadblocks (though those few were helpful) and much more to do with a catastrophically ignorant and/or ideologically socialist Democrats.

So, sacrificing too much now in the hopes of getting that one vote majority is a bit of a fool's errand. There needs to be a concerted realignment without the blessing of "bipartisanship" to further damage the conservative brand. The tiniest short-term majority at the expense of sturdy, ideological shifting to the Right would be counterproductive. Even an O'Donnell loss - which I don't concede at all this cycle - would not be catastrophic. Her win sends a message. It already has sent a message, and that message is going to bias legislation before November even arrives.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 15, 2010 06:59 AM (swuwV)

244 Bloody right. Now I'm off to cop a fag and send one 'round the u-bend

You're talking cobblers!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 06:59 AM (mHQ7T)

245 "Out of state support was enough to pull her through yesterday so she can rely on it through November."

Wow DE allows people from other states to vote in their state elections.


Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 15, 2010 07:00 AM (tf9Ne)

246 Youse guys can argue about O'Donnell if you want.. but I haven't heard a peep about that fuck Hoffman in NY-23.  The prick is gonna run on the Conservative Party ticket and guarantee a Dem (Owens again!) will win what should be a GOP seat.

Somebody needs to have a talk with that boy.

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at September 15, 2010 07:00 AM (f9c2L)

247

And, regarding a headline topic...

Mr. Ditka, you're not exactly helping your point with that "pants" comment.

Posted by: BB at September 15, 2010 07:01 AM (qF8q3)

248 Mike Castle,

History will call.  Don't you worry.


Posted by: One of the Maine Twins. at September 15, 2010 07:01 AM (4uhuW)

249

In a word: NO. You guys spent the last two weeks telling us you'd rather a Democrat than Castle.

No, Gabe - what we've been telling you is a choice between a Democrat and a Conservative is better than a choice between a Democrat and...another Democrat.  If Castle had won, we would have gained...what?  A Republican who votes along Democrat party lines.  So what's the fuckin' difference?  At least, this way, there's a chance of someone getting in who shares the values that the Republican party USED to stand for.

And if we can't express our preferences *in the primary*, when CAN we? Never? Yes, that is it, isn't it.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 15, 2010 07:01 AM (ujg0T)

250
it's funny

Just like how the 9/11 truthers insist the US govt carried out 9/11 even as Al Qaeda takes full responsibility for it, the Castle supporters still insist Castle was the right man for November even as he takes a shit all over the Republican party.

Castle has shown himself to be a rotten apple. He's poison. And he hates you and everything you stand for.


Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 07:01 AM (uFokq)

251 252 Hey I haven't read all the comments yet, but I'll assume the O'Donnell/Castle fight is over now that the primary is over. Right?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 10:52 AM (QyzAh)


If I didn't know better, I'd say you were new here...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 07:02 AM (IkEhE)

252 Wow, every program leads with the "stunning tea party win in Delaware".

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:02 AM (p302b)

253 Her win sends a message. It already has sent a message, and that message is going to bias legislation before November even arrives.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 15, 2010 10:59 AM (swuwV)


I hope that the GOP incumbent senate losses have struck a chord with the brain dead sisters in Maine.  When are their terms up?  Maybe a tea party with a lobster roll.

Posted by: Hedgehog at September 15, 2010 07:02 AM (oQIfB)

254 Blue Hen: You are a class act.  In fact that doesn't do you justice.  You are a real trooper in every good sense of the word.

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 07:02 AM (RKpGM)

255 Completely shutting her off is impolitic.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 15, 2010 10:54 AM (7rfUg)


Yeah.  And publicly, loudly shutting her off is just...well, f*ked up.

Posted by: antisocialist at September 15, 2010 07:02 AM (Rwudm)

256

Castle has shown himself to be a rotten apple. He's poison. And he hates you and everything you stand for.

Exactly.  Course, some of us ALREADY knew that.

Posted by: BB at September 15, 2010 07:04 AM (qF8q3)

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 15, 2010 07:04 AM (JNqU9)

258 And if we can't express our preferences *in the primary*, when CAN we? Never? Yes, that is it, isn't it.....

^^^
This.

Wasn't it said on this very blog that primaries are where the action is and that's where you want to get your most conservative candidate out there?

I remember reading that somewhere.

Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2010 07:05 AM (4uhuW)

259 No, what we've been telling you is a choice between a Democrat and a Conservative is better than a choice between a Democrat and... another Democrat.

If it's a choice between someone who voted for TARP and a freaking UFO cult leader who thinks that the Queen of England is a lizard... vote for Icke.

If it's a choice between someone who voted for TARP and a ham sandwich... vote for Cass.

If it's a choice between someone who voted for TARP and a homeless woman who talks to invisible people in the bushes... vote for O'Donnell.

The ugliest, craziest, most unbelievable idiots should beat the living crap out of the representatives that voted for TARP. I hope they get beat at the polls by opponents on the sex offender registry!


Posted by: YEAAAARRRRGGGGGHHH at September 15, 2010 07:06 AM (mHQ7T)

260 The Brand Democrat™ quote should be a big "THANK YOU!!!!!" to Delaware Republicans. Not that it helps save the House at all, but still......

Posted by: Markos at September 15, 2010 07:06 AM (YmPwQ)

261 Gabe made a good point about how stupid it is for the anti-establishment candidate and her crew to immediately start mewling about how the establishment won't give them money.

I'd add that it's also pretty stupid for O'Donnell and her crew to be all pissy over the fact that Castle didn't endorse her.

Why the hell would the O'Donnell camp even want the endorsement of a corrupt closeted homosexual RINO who cheats on his wife, had his operatives skulking around in O'Donnell's bushes, voted for Obamacare, wanted to impeach President Bush, and planned to switch parties after the election?

Posted by: Ortho at September 15, 2010 07:06 AM (hiK+F)

262 I love the fact that all the old time GOPers are wetting/shitting their Depends over the uprising from us common folk.

Eat It you fossils.


Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:06 AM (iYbLN)

263 Blue Hen: You are a class act Yes, thank you Blue Hen for your "coverage" during the Primary. It's crazy when the country's political class/commentariat is focused directly on you, isn't it?

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 15, 2010 07:06 AM (EHI/u)

264 Yeah.  And publicly, loudly shutting her off is just...well, f*ked up.

The back and forth on here was fun to some degree..  

but it was *our* fight.  

what happened with that and Karl Rove is complete assholery.

Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2010 07:07 AM (4uhuW)

265 Notice how the Castle supporters have no answer fro my question about his vote for impeachment.

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 07:07 AM (uFokq)

266 137 It's obvious the DNC is funding O'Donnell's campaign because they want a loser like her and Palin to be the GOP's public national face going into November!!!!

Posted by: COC at September 15, 2010 10:12 AM (3phFo)

 

Yeah because all those voters in Delaware were taken in by advertising volume. They are like Homer Simpson. They are STUPID and don't have the first idea what the issues are, they just respond to commercials because they are brain dead.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:08 AM (zX2Lm)

267 loins are girded odonnell at 162k

Posted by: sliderblaze at September 15, 2010 07:10 AM (Jesjh)

268 Wasn't it said on this very blog that primaries are where the action is and that's where you want to get your most conservative candidate out there?


The NRSC told you they want to help get Republicans elected to office. Up till this point, O'Donnell has been running against the NRSC and Republican party. She should look to the people who pushed her to a win for help, and her supporters will appreciate her outsider status even more than if she transforms into an establishment candidate. That would be so ELITIST!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 07:10 AM (mHQ7T)

269 hahahhahahahh Glenn Beck has paparazzi??????

Bet Paris Hilton is waiting with baited breathe to get their pics...

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:10 AM (p302b)

270 Be like Han. Han didn't bring enough gun. I'm afraid Ms. Christine may not be enough gun to make the point.

Posted by: Jean at September 15, 2010 07:11 AM (OsAaC)

271 I am really sick and tires of these female sports reporters ,case in point Ines (sp?)  bitching that ooohhh the men are looking at me.  For God's sake she WANTED the men to look at her and drool over her.  Don't be a fucking hypocrite lady.   What do expect when you walk into a men's locker room? 

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:12 AM (iYbLN)

272 I really really want John Dingell to go down.  He has been a politician since 1955.  Fucker needs the boot.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 15, 2010 07:12 AM (uztAS)

273 The NRSC told you they want to help get Republicans elected to office. Up till this point, O'Donnell has been running against the NRSC and Republican party.

She ran against the Republican party as a Republican.

Does anyone else see the glaring problem with the way that's stated, or am I just running on blog-adrenaline?

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 07:14 AM (IkEhE)

274 If the establishment wonks can't stomach O'Donnell, the least they can do is shut the fuck up. Fine, don't support her because you have issues, but STFU. Those guys are like Obama on a world tour, airing all the dirty laundry to try to look superior. Ok, got it, O'Donnell is inferior. She won. Button it.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:14 AM (zX2Lm)

275 If Karl Rove and the NRSC won't support a conservative candidate against an admitted Marxist, will they be trusted to repeal ObamaCare?

Posted by: ingenus at September 15, 2010 07:14 AM (+sBB4)

276 Actually, I think the problem the grassroots anti-establishment types are having is that not that the establishment is not running to the microphone, wallet in hand, to proclaim their support for O'Donnell.  No, it is that the establishment is running to the microphone to proclaim they will not help her in any way.  No sour grapes there, clearly.

And for the "Fuck you Mark Levin et al for losing us the 51st Senate seat crowd:  When the hell was a 51st Senate seat ever in the bag for the GOP and, guess what, in a 51 Senate seat majority that includes Mike Castle, the most important vote in the Senate is Mike Castle's.  Ummm, no thanks, I'll take my chances with the crazy cat lady.  All I really want from the Senate is enough reliable votes to sustain a filibuster no matter what Collins and Snowe decide to do.  2012 is the year when the Senate is really in play.

P.S.  I have seen the idea argued elsewhere that now the Dems will have some more free cash to use against Angle, Rand, etc. since they won't need to spend it in Delaware.  Really?  I thought Mike Castle was a stone cold lock for the seat.  Gabriel seems to be think so.  Why would the Dems throw money at a seat they couldn't win?  No, oddly enough, if the Dems think they can win in Delaware, they will spend money there-money they will not be using against Angle, Rand, etc.  So, we can thank Christine O'Donnell for two things: The Dems will funnel money into Delaware, and that worthless p.o.s. Linc Chaffee doppleganger will not be the 50th or 51st vote in the Senate.

Posted by: Calling all moderates at September 15, 2010 07:14 AM (Snu7z)

277 tires = tired.

Hey it's early out here.

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:14 AM (iYbLN)

278 Gabe, Today adult professionals with their goals in constant focus take off their Castle hats and put on their O'Donnell hats. Crying and sulking is for children and fools.

Posted by: eman at September 15, 2010 07:14 AM (zCAXm)

279 The elitists are stomping their collective little feet and throwing a real hissy fit aren't they?

Posted by: jewells at September 15, 2010 07:15 AM (l/N7H)

280 Notice how the Castle supporters have no answer fro my question about his vote for impeachment.

The vote in question was on a motion to refer Rep. Dennis Kucinich's impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee, where most of the Republicans who voted on it calcluated it would die a slow death, with no one willing to give it time in the committee. And, there it did die. Castle's office said that it opposed impeachment because "they believed there weren't any crimes committed by the Bush administration."

Wow. Imagine if the whole primary had been Castle defending his actual record and O'Donnell not denying hers. People wouldn't be at each others' throats right now.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 07:15 AM (mHQ7T)

281 Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 11:12 AM (iYbLN)

Look maybe in the 80's she might have gotten away with pleading ignorance but not today.  You want to play in the game, grow up and be a big girl.  But, Kratos was right yesterday.  She seems to be very smart as she has parlayed this little "episode" into two days of appearances and making herself a household word.  I just don't want her to F***k with my Jets minds at the beginning of the season.  You'd hate to think she was spurred on by their erstwhile competitors.

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:15 AM (p302b)

282 @311-I agree with that sentiment in principle (you dont see anyone saying take the FDA labels off consumer food for just that reason), but do you trust the present Government to continue to trust your informed decision-making? I say not just no but ninth-circle-of-hell no, especially in year 1 AOcare.

Posted by: Whatever at September 15, 2010 07:16 AM (Jn1t+)

283

@305 As has been pointed out by everyone who actually pays attention to Senate procedural rules, that wasn't a vote for impeachment. It was a vote to take it off the House floor and send it back to committee where it could die.  They didn't have enough dems to do it, as it was a privileged resolution requiring more than a simple majority. 

However, continue to bask in your own ignorance, dipshit.

Posted by: ATaLien at September 15, 2010 07:17 AM (SkRi5)

284 *House procedural rules. 

Posted by: ATaLien at September 15, 2010 07:17 AM (SkRi5)

285 Was Castle's vote for the motion necessary, or not?

Posted by: AoS Pirate...now with extra-absorbent wings at September 15, 2010 07:17 AM (uFokq)

286 I'm Del-unaware.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at September 15, 2010 07:17 AM (QyzAh)

287 53 Loins girded.

Eyes readed...

Exciting First Look At Barack Obama's "Of Thee I Sing: A Letter To My Daughters"


You'll laugh. You'll cry. It will change your life...or something.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2010 09:46 AM (+kzvp)

Well done! That's really funny.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at September 15, 2010 07:17 AM (YVZlY)

288 British Teen Banned From U.S. for Life After Sending E-Mail to Obama

It says he called Obama a "pr*ck."  He called him a prick?  And got banned?  He's already banned.... maybe he could send another email and call him a fascist or something.  Or, maybe a dorky fascist prick. 

Posted by: pity t. fool at September 15, 2010 07:18 AM (BjQSh)

289 Polynikes - New Man Vs Wild and Survivor start tonight!  (I'm going to ignore politics for a while...)

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at September 15, 2010 07:18 AM (f9c2L)

290 313 I am really sick and tires of these female sports reporters ,case in point Ines (sp?)  bitching that ooohhh the men are looking at me.  For God's sake she WANTED the men to look at her and drool over her.  Don't be a fucking hypocrite lady.   What do expect when you walk into a men's locker room? 

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 11:12 AM (iYbLN)

My son ended up getting scratched up because he had to throw a wrestling hold on some guy who was trying to drag a female friend of his somewhere she didn't want to go this weekend. He told the girl, fine, I understand you got scared but how about not parading around in clothes from "baby gap" in front of drunk rednecks. The idea is that a chick bears no responsibility for inviting leers, etc. Spare me.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:18 AM (zX2Lm)

291 curious,

I think she is trolling for a rich, famous NFL husband.  Women are sneaky like that,. I should know, I'm one of them.  Hey, if I looked like that I would troll every hot spot in the world with old, dying, single billionaires.

Millionaires are so passé.  Go for the platinum.

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:18 AM (iYbLN)

292 What do you do when you're a state running a budget deficit and need to tighten up your finances?  Why impose more taxes of course!

Drive-Through Tax Proposed for Road Money

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- The time you save using the drive-through could end up costing you more.

The West Virginia Department of Transportation is floating the idea of charging an additional tax on food purchased at drive-throughs. The idea was discussed Monday at a meeting of state legislators.

It would be an extra 5 percent, added to the 6 percent customers already pay.

It could bring in tens of millions of dollars for roads, according to official estimates.

But, some restaurant owners fear it would hurt business.


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 07:19 AM (9hSKh)

293 If Karl Rove and the NRSC won't support a conservative candidate against an admitted Marxist, will they be trusted to repeal ObamaCare?

She is the nominee. No one is denying that. She has also burned bridges and is down 13 points in the polls. When she has a chance of winning, then the "establishment" -- the people who are good at career politics and  the people who donate time and money to their organizations -- might deem it prudent to allocate resources to her. In the mean time, there are a lot of other winnable races to focus on.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 07:19 AM (mHQ7T)

294

Have you ever heard someone say something like, "Oh goody, broccoli!"  (And no, this isn't a gay thing, so you guys just stay out of this.  This is a "regular folks" discussion, and no, as a matter of fact, you wouldn't understand.)

But anyway... where was I...   Oh, yeah...

I never thought I would even consider the possibility that I would even think to long for the failed policies of the past:

http://tinyurl.com/3afyexj

HotAir

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 07:19 AM (RkRxq)

295 Gabe made a good point about how stupid it is for the anti-establishment candidate and her crew to immediately start mewling about how the establishment won't give them money.

Except she's not the anti-establishment candidate, she's the Republican nominee, based on a vote by members of the party, and is by definition the establishment candidate.  The fact that a certain segment of the establishment is butt hurt about that doesn't change the fact. 

Posted by: Guy who starred in Greatest American Hero at September 15, 2010 07:19 AM (5aa4z)

296 How the NRSC handled the situation was wrong.  But the fact is that they only last week made a $500K buy in Wisconsin and a similar one in Washington.  Only because the polls there have narrowed.  Meanwhile they put $1.75M in Cali...because the race is so tight.

They'll spend that much in PA and in Missouri.  Merely winning the primary is not an automatic guarantee of huge NRSC funds.

They only have $20M.  How much should O'Donnell reasonably expect of that limited fund when she's now polling double digits behind Coons?  Particularly when she wasn't so nice, herself, to the NRSC.

Let her pull to within a handful and then she can really scream if they don't help. 

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 15, 2010 07:20 AM (7rfUg)

297 Damn.  Old socks are smelly.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 15, 2010 07:20 AM (5aa4z)

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 15, 2010 07:22 AM (5aa4z)

299 Except she's not the anti-establishment candidate, she's the Republican nominee, based on a vote by members of the party, and is by definition the establishment candidate.  The fact that a certain segment of the establishment is butt hurt about that doesn't change the fact.

And it doesn't change the fact that...right now...she trails Coons by a great deal.  Why does that entitle her to a share of the limited funds available?

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 15, 2010 07:23 AM (7rfUg)

300 <blockquote>She is the nominee. No one is denying that. She has also burned bridges and is down 13 points in the polls. When she has a chance of winning, then the "establishment" -- the people who are good at career politics and  the people who donate time and money to their organizations -- might deem it prudent to allocate resources to her. In the mean time, there are a lot of other winnable races to focus on.</blockquote>

In the mean time, RNC, RSCC, etc. is going to be getting a whole lot less money to win those races thanks to how they are mis-managing this.

Winning strategy, eh?

Posted by: I Heart Chomsky at September 15, 2010 07:23 AM (TZI/v)

301 Was Castle's vote for the motion necessary, or not?

Yes. By a 251-166 vote, the House sent the 35-count articles of impeachment to the Judiciary Committee, which let it die without further action. The vote technically forced the measure to the committee for consideration, it also meant the full House avoided having to debate and vote on impeaching the 43d president.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 07:23 AM (mHQ7T)

302 Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (iYbLN)

hahahha you made me smurf my coffee.  That is so so true, thought the same.  I actually know women that think like that and frequent certain bars and eat at certain restaurants knowing they will bump into the billionaire crowd.  The old thing my mom says was big in her time "you can love a rich guy as easily as you can love a poor guy" is alive and well and walking around the locker room.

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:23 AM (p302b)

303 Fox Reporter: Could your pants get any tighter?

Ines:  That ezzz my size.

Oh for Keyrists sake. I saw how tight those jeans were.  If she farted she would have blown a hole through the back.

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:23 AM (iYbLN)

304 health insurance costs are going to continue to go through the roof

Just got my renewal premiums.  Family of 5 up 30%.  To over $1100 a fucking month.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 15, 2010 07:23 AM (5aa4z)

305 344 Red Wave. Malaise. 10+% unemployment. Nobama.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:24 AM (zX2Lm)

306 Polynikes - New Man Vs Wild and Survivor start tonight!  (I'm going to ignore politics for a while...)

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (f9c2L)


Man VS Wild started their season almost a month ago. It's been shit as it's been him with the crew setting up nature disasters for him. If you wanted something like the old Survivorman and Man VS Wild, you need to start watching Man, Woman, Wild.

Posted by: The Dude at September 15, 2010 07:24 AM (gAmQ1)

307

poll out from PPP

Coons 50

O'Donnell 36

I don't know if that includes an election bump. hopefully those numbers close up in the next 2 weeks.

Posted by: Ben at September 15, 2010 07:24 AM (wuv1c)

308 313 I am really sick and tires of these female sports reporters ,case in point Ines (sp?)  bitching that ooohhh the men are looking at me.  For God's sake she WANTED the men to look at her and drool over her.  Don't be a fucking hypocrite lady.   What do expect when you walk into a men's locker room?

Right.  The guys could have showed a little more class, but if she was expecting absolutely no comments dressed like that, going into a men's locker room of all places, well, any brains she has are in another part of her body IYKWIMAITYD.


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 07:24 AM (9hSKh)

309 297

Coons is self-described Marxist.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 15, 2010 11:04 AM (JNqU9)

And will definitely be elected to the Senate.  Awesome.

Posted by: rob at September 15, 2010 07:24 AM (fKPuo)

310
This is what November is about:

1.  Take the House (likely)

  *  Committee chairs and INVESTIGATIONS!

  *  Control of the budget

  *  No legislative support for the Obama agenda

2.  Enough Senate seats for filibuster (likely)

  *  No legislative support for the Obama agenda

3.  Take the Senate (long shot)

  * Committee chairs and investigations

  * Block nominees

  * Possible party-line impeachment removal (extremely unlikely to get 51 votes)

4.  Veto-proof House majority (long, long shot)

  * Adds nothing without corresponding numbers in Senate

5.  Veto-proof Senate majority (impossible)

  * With veto-proof House majority, begins jamdown rollback


I understand reaching for the stars, but the first two are within grasp.  Anything achieved beyond those is icing on the cake.

The follow-up question is whether a GOP House majority and 40+ GOP Senators are sufficiently principled to wield the tools they are handed.

Posted by: MikeO at September 15, 2010 07:24 AM (lBmZl)

311 And I think that Inez made a mountain out of a molehill on purpose - some sort of minor publicity stunt.  Now she's going to get even more attention. 

Best solution?  Ignore her.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 07:25 AM (9hSKh)

312 331 British Teen Banned From U.S. for Life After Sending E-Mail to Obama

It says he called Obama a "pr*ck."  He called him a prick?  And got banned?  He's already banned.... maybe he could send another email and call him a fascist or something.  Or, maybe a dorky fascist prick. 

Posted by: pity t. fool at September 15, 2010 11:18 AM (BjQSh)

Hmmm.  How can we get Barry to call himself a prick?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 07:26 AM (RkRxq)

313

He says " when you're stuck in an elevator you have to establish a pee corner" 

Pam says " but we've only been stuck a few minutes"

At least I thought it was hilarious.

 And metaphorical of the Obama admin and the establishment republicans?

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:26 AM (zX2Lm)

314 And it doesn't change the fact that...right now...she trails Coons by a great deal.  Why does that entitle her to a share of the limited funds available?

Didn't say it did.  It does however entitle her to not have fucknards going out on camera slamming the ever loving shit out of her during her victory speech.  It does entitle her to an endorsement, at minimum, from the party.  It does entitle her to more respect than we're getting from the co-bloggers here, who are basically saying "You fucked up, you're dumbasses, if we don't win DE it's all on you, and in fact we will actively make statements meant to denigrate her candidacy".  Don't ya think?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 15, 2010 07:26 AM (5aa4z)

315

oops

type of

It's

Coons 50

O'Donnell 34(not 36)

Posted by: Ben at September 15, 2010 07:26 AM (wuv1c)

316 I'm pulling for you, Christine!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 15, 2010 07:27 AM (QyzAh)

317 297

Coons is
self-described Marxist.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 15, 2010 11:04 AM (JNqU9)

I'm shocked Politico would actually write a negative article like this about Coons.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at September 15, 2010 07:27 AM (YVZlY)

318 Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at September 15, 2010 11:20 AM (7rfUg)

I think she should just raise her money "from the little idiots known as US citizens" (that description seems to be what the political savvy people think about us working schmoes), this way she can unabashedly consult with them and do what's best for them and not be beholden to anyone else.  Seems like a good plan to me.  If you don't take money from the party, from certain companies, from lobbyists then you don't owe them anything no do you.  Pay for your own dinner and the guy can't say "well I paid for your dinner"

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:27 AM (p302b)

319 In the mean time, RNC, RSCC, etc. is going to be getting a whole lot less money to win those races thanks to how they are mismanaging this.

The tea party already made it clear they were not donating to the RNC, NRSC or NRCC by hanging up on their representatives and writing angry letters and sending back solicitation envelopes. They are keeping their own donors happy who think O'Donnell is a loon. You guys want to send messages. Fine. Look how seriously people started taking Ron Paul when he raised his own money. Now his son, after deposing the establishment pick, has the full weight of the party's support behind him.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 07:27 AM (mHQ7T)

320 herr i feel your pain

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 07:28 AM (eOXTH)

321 I am stunned that a woman that had her tatas hanging out was stunned that naked men would notice.

Posted by: ingenus at September 15, 2010 07:28 AM (+sBB4)

322 New Man Vs Wild and Survivor start tonight!  (I'm going to ignore politics for a while...)

I especially enjoy the episodes where he (Bear) takes off his pants.  Is that wrong of me? 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 07:28 AM (osFsP)

323 354

poll out from PPP

Coons 50

O'Donnell 36

I don't know if that includes an election bump. hopefully those numbers close up in the next 2 weeks.

Posted by: Ben at September 15, 2010 11:24 AM (wuv1c)

Actually, if anyone is going to get a bump from last night's results, it'll be Coons.

Posted by: rob at September 15, 2010 07:28 AM (fKPuo)

324 NRSC is now saying they WILL SUPPORT O'Donnell.

Gabe's day just got worse! Poor little guy.

Posted by: FleshBomb at September 15, 2010 07:28 AM (Ca/zm)

325

Right.  The guys could have showed a little more class, but if she was expecting absolutely no comments dressed like that, going into a men's locker room of all places, well, any brains she has are in another part of her body IYKWIMAITYD.

Yeah, because a football locker room, a biker bar, a frat party, and a construction site are the most obvious places to assume that men will be classy. Because camel toes are the epitome of class in their own right, huh?

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:28 AM (zX2Lm)

326 LOL 363 THREADWINNER.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 07:28 AM (mHQ7T)

327 Oil Filter,Fuel Filter,Air Filter,Lube Filter,Hydraulic
Filter,Water Oil Separater,Water Separator,Oil water
separator parts,Fuel filter accessory.

Posted by: Darren at September 15, 2010 07:29 AM (LtxF8)

328 she should tell the nrsc to kiss her ass

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 15, 2010 07:29 AM (eOXTH)

329 I wasn't expecting much in the way of huge NRSC funds.  I don't expect much out of the NRSC after their Crist endorsement.

But I was expecting maybe a press release saying:

Congratulations on winning the Delaware Primary. 

blah blah blah,

We look forward to working with you in the Senate in January.

Was that too much to ask of last night?


Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2010 07:29 AM (4uhuW)

330 She is the nominee. No one is denying that. She has also burned bridges and is down 13 points in the polls. When she has a chance of winning, then the "establishment" -- the people who are good at career politics and  the people who donate time and money to their organizations -- might deem it prudent to allocate resources to her. In the mean time, there are a lot of other winnable races to focus on.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 15, 2010 11:19 AM

^^^This^^^

Spending money you don't have is for slimy Dem politicians. The NRSCC has very finite resources, so it makes sense to use them where it will do the most good. If you haven't donated to them (just a guess, but I'm thinking the non-donor group includes most of the O'D supporters here), why should they listen to you about how they spend what they have?

The Repub establishment is looking at a movement (Tea Party) that, despite claims of non-partisanship, seems to be directed by people who want to dump the fatcat Rs just as they do the Dems. You can't expect them to hasten their demise by supporting the people and groups who want to replace them.

It's the old "business, not personal" game. Too many people are taking it personally.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 15, 2010 07:29 AM (Ulu3i)

331 @364 you say that is if you think Politico sees anything wrong with self-described Marxists.  That's a feature to them, not a bug.

Posted by: ATaLien at September 15, 2010 07:29 AM (SkRi5)

332 Chances are that O'Donnell will get more money from the right than she would ever have received from the establishment anyway.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:30 AM (zX2Lm)

333 Coons is self-described Marxist.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 15, 2010 11:04 AM (JNqU9)

I'm shocked Politico would actually write a negative article like this about Coons.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at September 15, 2010 11:27 AM (YVZlY)

If DE voters can pull the lever for a self identified Marxist, then fuck 'em.  They're too far gone to give a shit about.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 07:30 AM (RkRxq)

334 Dude - There's really nothing as good as the old SurvivorMan shows.  totally alone.. retracing his steps just to get a shot of himself walking.  His new show is so so.

Yeah, a lot of what Bear Grylls does is set up, but I enjoy the show anyway.  The best one was when he took Will Farrell along.. hilarious.

Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at September 15, 2010 07:30 AM (f9c2L)

335 368 I am stunned that a woman that had her tatas hanging out was stunned that naked men would notice.

I read that she didn't make the complaint -- some women's press organization did after being tipped off by some U.S. reporterette. 

Supposedly the tight-panted chick is not offended, but the women's org argues that she doesn't have to be. 

Except, my understanding is that the standard is that she does have to be. 

Or someone else has to feel intimidated by the behavior. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 07:31 AM (osFsP)

336

poll out from PPP

Coons 50

O'Donnell 36


Isn't that pre-primary?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 15, 2010 07:31 AM (QyzAh)

337 I'm 49 years old and still pretty easy on the eyes.  I would hope men would still look at me and drool.  And not in the drool cup they have to carry around attached to their wheelchair cause they are really old and shit.

The "sports reported" is major high maintenance.  I hope the dude who cages her has lots and lots of pesos cause she is gonna cost a fortune once she starts pumping the bambinos out.  That body won't stay like that forever.  I see plastic surgery in her future.

Catty, yes?  rrrrrrarrrr.

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:31 AM (iYbLN)

338

I don't live in Delaware, so feel free to discredit my thought-process here...

But...the Republican "Establishment" has decided to marginalize and loudly express their lack of support for the (R) Candidate on the November ballot.

Who is it exactly that is implying they would rather the (D) win than the (R)?

I'm slightly jealous of DE this morning.  Y'all got to do with your Senator what we didn't get the chance to do with our Governor.  I've been taking out my frustrations with that by supporting EBJ's opponent for Rep...

Posted by: reason at September 15, 2010 07:32 AM (sPO/s)

339 O'Donnell should take the NRSC money then denounce them on Hannity when the check is cashed.  What?  Am I wrong?  That isn't the way it's played?

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 07:33 AM (RKpGM)

340

Supposedly the tight-panted chick is not offended, but the women's org argues that she doesn't have to be. 

Of course, the ugly women are offended. But they're offended all the time anyway. So who cares?

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:33 AM (zX2Lm)

341 Could you imagine Helen Thomas in those tight jeans???  Gak, urg, puke.

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:34 AM (iYbLN)

342 The tea party already made it clear they were not donating to the RNC, NRSC or NRCC by hanging up on their representatives and writing angry letters and sending back solicitation envelopes. They are keeping their own donors happy who think O'Donnell is a loon. You guys want to send messages. Fine. Look how seriously people started taking Ron Paul when he raised his own money. Now his son, after deposing the establishment pick, has the full weight of the party's support behind him.

I'm talking about mainstream R donors, not tea party folks.  Expect more of that money to dry up too.  Last I heard, she got a majority of registered R votes in Delaware last night.

Like I said, winning strategy.  Penny-wise and pound-foolish at the end.  The establishment is no doubt getting bombarded with email/phone calls/etc. of registered R prior-donors who will now re-purpose their R donations to individual candidates.  I would wager that, in the end, the value of the lost contributions will be greater than the amount of a small investment into her campaign.

Their choice, though.




Posted by: I Heart Chomsky at September 15, 2010 07:36 AM (TZI/v)

343 I have teenage sons, at any time you can say to them, "did you hear me?" and they will startle and say, "sorry, I was thinking about boobies". Why does this surprise anyone?

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:36 AM (zX2Lm)

344 The Tea Party needs to come out and declare to the establishment numbskulls out there who are continuing their bullshit and let them know that they will remember this treatment - that the battle is far from over and the taking out of the trash has just begun.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 15, 2010 07:36 AM (RkRxq)

345 "273 The question may be moot. 80%" "383 90%" According to OpenSecrets.org , it looks like Castle had about $2.6 million cash on hand for his campaign as of last month. Congratulations to O'Donnell for reaching 90% of 8% of the money Castle already had available to spend in the general. Just another $2.4 million and she'll be all caught up.

Posted by: Ortho at September 15, 2010 07:36 AM (hiK+F)

346 349 Fox Reporter: Could your pants get any tighter?

Ines:  That ezzz my size.

Oh for Keyrists sake. I saw how tight those jeans were.  If she farted she would have blown a hole through the back.

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 11:23 AM (iYbLN)

Me: could this wood get any harder?

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at September 15, 2010 07:37 AM (YVZlY)

347 It's a Tylenol morning!  Sore heads abound! 

Certainly, the GOP establishment isn't obligated to support O'Donnell -- or anyone else who runs as an anti-establishment candidate-- but to stand in front of microphones in the wake of her victory and declare sullenly they will neither support or fund her campaign is a bit .... crude.   Not to mention politically maladroit. 

Right now I feel like I am watching a weird remake of one of those 80's comedies, like The Potomac Valley Boys:  Clueless in DC, or The Millionaires' Breakfast Club.   Sheesh!

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at September 15, 2010 07:37 AM (PZLW0)

348 45% of american households do not pay government income taxes.

Posted by: dagny at September 15, 2010 07:38 AM (zX2Lm)

349 350 health insurance costs are going to continue to go through the roof

Just got my renewal premiums.  Family of 5 up 30%.  To over $1100 a fucking month.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 15, 2010 11:23 AM (5aa4z)

Holy crap!  Glad I am retired Navy and only have to pay that per year for my stuff.

Posted by: Johnnyreb at September 15, 2010 07:38 AM (BuYeH)

350 "Except she's not the anti-establishment candidate, she's the Republican nominee, based on a vote by members of the party, and is by definition the establishment candidate.  The fact that a certain segment of the establishment is butt hurt about that doesn't change the fact."

Posted by: Guy who starred in Greatest American Hero at September 15, 2010 11:19 AM (5aa4z)

Bingo! End of discussion.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 15, 2010 07:39 AM (LH6ir)

351 Just another $2.4 million and she'll be all caught up.

Posted by: Ortho at September 15, 2010 11:36 AM (hiK+F)

Tasty, aren't we?

Posted by: Sour Grapes at September 15, 2010 07:40 AM (QyzAh)

352 Looks like the NRSC saw it my way after all.


Posted by: I Heart Chomsky at September 15, 2010 07:40 AM (TZI/v)

353 #372  Yeah, because a football locker room, a biker bar, a frat party, and a construction site are the most obvious places to assume that men will be classy. Because camel toes are the epitome of class in their own right, huh?

Of course. 

I wasn't trying to belittle or negate your point about the situtation, dagny.  You're right.  I'm just the outlier in these kind of things.  If some decadently-dressed young woman like Inez had walked in like that before one of my HS football games, I would have made comments alright, but they would have been something along the lines of: "you attention-seeking, stupid, decadent 'ho"....

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 07:41 AM (9hSKh)

354 Supposedly the tight-panted chick is not offended, but the women's org argues that she doesn't have to be. 

Except, my understanding is that the standard is that she does have to be. 

Or someone else has to feel intimidated by the behavior. 
Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 11:31 AM

I thought the "women's groups" went over the edge when they demanded -- and got -- unlimited access to sports teams' locker rooms. Maybe sports dudes who are built like brick latrines don't much care, but I, for one, would like to have some privacy in their position, not only because I don't like strangers of any sex staring at what I have, but because the end of any game can be time when a little privacy is necessary to deal with the frustration and fatigue of the event.

Maybe I'd see it in a different way if I was a reporter assigned to cover women's sports and could wander freely into their locker rooms and get the lowdown straight from a bunch of naked babes.

Oh, wait. I couldn't.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 15, 2010 07:41 AM (Ulu3i)

355 I'm sprinkling my Breakfast Burrito with RINO tears.

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 07:41 AM (RKpGM)

356

"Man VS Wild started their season almost a month ago. It's been shit as it's been him with the crew setting up nature disasters for him. If you wanted something like the old Survivorman and Man VS Wild, you need to start watching Man, Woman, Wild."

Do they drink their own urine?

Because if there's one thing Bear Grylls can't seem to get enough of, it's his own pee.

Maybe since there are several of them in MWM, they can mix things up a little, and maybe put it all into one big communal snakeskin pee-tube for them to all take nips from...

Posted by: reason at September 15, 2010 07:41 AM (sPO/s)

357 Dude, on the burned bridges...seems there were more than a few Castle folks with gasoline and torches around those bridges, too.  If the state party wants to destroy goodwill with its base and isolate itself from its natural donor base, then hey, have at.  If anything comes of this year, it's that we can go around these things until we have the luxury of going back and cleaning them out.  The snide snipes after were totally out of line, regardless.  It just completes their delegitimization, and that's all.

Also, you may want to think about why you don't have the money you can't spend.  Should tell you something, if you think clearly.

But more importantly, no more cat filters?!?  How do I keep my cats filtered now?

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 15, 2010 07:42 AM (IkEhE)

358 What happens to the "war chest" when a candidate loses?  That is an awful lot of money, where does it go?  Is it his?  Who monitors where it goes?

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:42 AM (p302b)

359 #407  Because if there's one thing Bear Grylls can't seem to get enough of, it's his own pee.

Remember when he gave himself an enema?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 07:42 AM (9hSKh)

360

I'm not sure what you mean by "clarity." If O'Donnell loses by a landslide, will that be included in your "clarity"? How about a nightmare scenario in which she loses, and we lose the Senate majority by one vote?

Have to get out of the house now, so I'm not ducking your answer.

No sweat, I've been out, just got back. By clarity, I mean that I think a lot of people have shown themselves for who or what they believe. I think there are people on both sides who have behaved rationally in this and there are those who have flipped out. Saying that a vote for O'Donnell was short-sighted because her chances of election in November is fair. Saying that she's not what she appears to be because she has a lot of baggage is certainly valid as well. The problem is that I have seen a lot of name calling on this towards those who supported O'Donnell; a lot of these names are almost exactly the same pejoratives as those used by the left (teabagger, bumpkin, hillbilly), also a lot of attacks against Palin and some against DeMint. What it shows me is that for some people this wasn't about unity or pragmatism at all, it's a cultural clash.

When I say clarity, I mean that we can finally see some people for who they really are, what they really stand for, and when the chips are down who is going to be in the foxhole right next to you and who is going to shoot you in the back. Karl Rove, I'm talking to you.

I never really got too much into this Delaware debate and don't know what I would have done. I couldn't stand McCain but voted for him out of perceived duty. I voted for Graham for the same reason, though I am now an absolutist on him and will absolutely never vote for him again. Were I a Delaware voter I more than likely would have sympathized with O'Donnell but voted for Castle and been really disgusted for doing it.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 15, 2010 07:43 AM (JxMoP)

361

And it doesn't change the fact that...right now...she trails Coons by a great deal.  Why does that entitle her to a share of the limited funds available?

I'll take "Self Fulfilling RINO Establishment Prophecies" for $1000, Alex....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 15, 2010 07:43 AM (ujg0T)

362 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 11:41 AM (9hSKh)

If she had walked into your HS locker room, besides the sudden need for everyone to cover their junk, wouldn't she have been arrested?

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:44 AM (p302b)

363

Fox Reporter: Could your pants get any tighter?

Ines:  That ezzz my size.

LULZ, my wife watched that, and felt that back-and-forth was worth relaying to me.  Also, the fact that Ines, who is totally wanting to be taken seriously as a legit, serious sports reporter, apparently could only afford a shirt with 50% of its buttons to wear to her interview with Jon Scott...

Posted by: reason at September 15, 2010 07:44 AM (sPO/s)

364 Congratulations to O'Donnell for reaching 90% of 8% of the money Castle already had available to spend in the general. Just another $2.4 million and she'll be all caught up.

Posted by: Ortho at September 15, 2010 11:36 AM (hiK+F)

You must have seen that movie: "They beat dead horses don't they?"

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at September 15, 2010 07:44 AM (YVZlY)

365 she won gtfoi ....!!!!!

Posted by: RevMacDaddyZion at September 15, 2010 07:44 AM (GvYeG)

366 ATTENTION!!!

The NSRC has released a statement,  signed by John Cornyn, saying that they support ALL Republican candidates including Christine O'Donnell,  and they are sending her the maxmimum amount they send to ALL primary winners, $42,000.

Further donations to candidates will depend on where they think their money can be used most effectively.

So everyone quit arguing.  Apparently the NSRC comment last night was either from a hotheaded aide or was manufactured by Carl Cameron.  Or,  the NSRC was swamped with calls and e-mail and reconsidered their position.

Now,  we need to get Rove to apologize.

Posted by: Miss Marple at September 15, 2010 07:45 AM (bixjr)

367 Why is everybody mad at us?  We don't get it.

Posted by: National RINO Senatorial Committee at September 15, 2010 07:46 AM (L8kaT)

368 "Tasty, aren't we?" Posted by: Sour Grapes at September 15, 2010 11:40 AM (QyzAh)

Get back to me after the general election, and I'll be glad to discuss whether it looked worthwhile to divert however much O'Donnell does manage to raise from other, closer races just to hand what had been a safe, free (R) Senate seat over to the "bearded marxist."

50-34. Yeesh.

Posted by: Ortho at September 15, 2010 07:46 AM (hiK+F)

369 What happens to the "war chest" when a candidate loses?  That is an awful lot of money, where does it go?  Is it his?  Who monitors where it goes?

It goes into a bank account where he can use it again should he decide to run again.. I think.. 

I don't think he can use it at will.  Only for a campaign.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. 

I have no idea what happens to it now that he has been forced into retirement  (tee hee) 

Posted by: Dave C at September 15, 2010 07:48 AM (4uhuW)

370 all the 50-34 whiners ... please stay out of my foxhole ... I'd rather fight alone.

Posted by: RevMacDaddyZion at September 15, 2010 07:49 AM (GvYeG)

371 I knew that my monkey strong bowels were girded with strength like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung.

Posted by: JamesT at September 15, 2010 07:50 AM (NLodP)

372

50-34 crowd chant and response ...

"Rinos ... lay down your weapons .... "

Rino repsonse ... " OK"

Posted by: RevMacDaddyZion at September 15, 2010 07:52 AM (GvYeG)

373 This is off topic but still politics, what does someone mean when they call someone casper milk toast?

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 07:52 AM (p302b)

374 #413 
If she had walked into your HS locker room, besides the sudden need for everyone to cover their junk, wouldn't she have been arrested?

I wasn't talking about Ines specifically.  Just another one of my imperfect examples.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 15, 2010 07:54 AM (9hSKh)

375 How much money has SarahPAC sent to O'Donnell's campaign so far? 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2010 07:54 AM (osFsP)

376 If she had walked into your HS locker room, besides the sudden need for everyone to cover their junk, wouldn't she have been arrested?
Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 11:44 AM

Dunno about Kratos, but if she had walked into my HS locker room, more dudes would've been standing at attention than you'd see during the National Anthem.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 15, 2010 07:56 AM (Ulu3i)

377 Milquetoast

Posted by: PoconoJoe at September 15, 2010 07:56 AM (/h6TV)

378 Lard your groins.

Posted by: real joe at September 15, 2010 07:56 AM (IpIBJ)

379 "A milquetoast is a weak, ineffectual or bland person. It is derived from the character Caspar Milquetoast from the 1924 comic strip The Timid Soul. ..."

Google-Fu is strong with this one...

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 07:57 AM (RKpGM)

380 Attack Of The Bimbo Journalists

http://tinyurl.com/2b4ob4m

The comments are great.

Posted by: mpfs at September 15, 2010 07:59 AM (iYbLN)

381

"Remember when he gave himself an enema?"

NO!  I missed that episode, I guess.

Yeesh.  I shudder to think about what sorts of "found objects" he used to make that happen...

Posted by: reason at September 15, 2010 08:03 AM (sPO/s)

Posted by: CJ at September 15, 2010 08:04 AM (9KqcB)

383 Gabriel and all the others who keep saying "You ran against the Establishment, don't be surprised they're going to sit out..."

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!

Every time (repeat: EVERY TIME) some squish RINO has won a primary (McCain just being the biggest, recent example: remember, the Tea Party supported Brown for very legitimate reasons, at the time) we, the grass-roots, conservative base of the party have been told to "get behind the candidate."  We've been told "they may not be perfect, but they're our candidate..."

Well, the shoe is now on the other foot.  You lost.  Those Republican voters in DE turned out not to be as squishy as you thought, now get behind the candidate and try to help us win.  Saying "O'Donnell can't win" and "she's behind in the polls" is stupid and self-defeating.

She couldn't win the primary, either, until she did.  Maybe, just maybe, the Establishment needs to wake up to the fact that most of this country really does support the government getting out of the way.  Maybe you need to face up to the fact that a large majority of this country (and I'm willing to be Delaware, too) are big on: personal responsibility, the sanctity of human life, balancing the budget, true energy independence, and all those other things the grass-roots is for.

Suck it up.  Grow up.  Support the candidate

Posted by: AllenG at September 15, 2010 08:06 AM (8y9MW)

384 "430 "A milquetoast is a weak, ineffectual or bland person. It is derived from the character Caspar Milquetoast from the 1924 comic strip The Timid Soul. ..."

Google-Fu is strong with this one...

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 11:57 AM (RKpGM)"

oh wow, the old folks have been saying this is why Lazio lost cause he is a capar Milquetoast.  (sorry I originally misspelled it but that is the way it sounds and I'm only hearing it not seeing or reading it)

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 08:08 AM (p302b)

385

"Now,  we need to get Rove to apologize."

Can we tell him to give the stupid dry-erase markerboard a rest while we're at it?

Posted by: reason at September 15, 2010 08:08 AM (sPO/s)

386 I'm pulling for you, Christine!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete

 

He pulls for everybody. And everything.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 08:10 AM (R2fpr)

387 Curious: I'm old folks too that's how I knew how to look it up! ;-)

Posted by: SurferDoc at September 15, 2010 08:11 AM (RKpGM)

388 Why gird your loins when you don't have any balls? Just askin'.

Posted by: Evil Red Scandi at September 15, 2010 08:13 AM (khet/)

389

"He pulls for everybody. And everything.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 12:10 PM (R2fpr)"

I remember my brother saying one of his teachers said that "you could go blind if you do that"

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 08:14 AM (p302b)

390 Thanks to all for your comments. I am stilll hopeful that we can rally around and make this O'Donnell campaign move. I am not going to concede anything to the Dems this year. It's certainly going to be much more difficult, but this is the task before us now.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 15, 2010 08:14 AM (R2fpr)

391 Rush is playing rove.  It strikes me that he should have stopped with "this is about castle's bad votes"

also, dana parino wasn't exactly supportive of Christine either

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 08:15 AM (p302b)

392 I'm not a statistician, so maybe someone can help me. Since the total universe of likely voters in Delaware is comparatively tiny, wouldn't the NRSCC have been able to, with a small dollar outlay, make an real difference in this race?

Assuming that money = advertising = exposure = persuasion (to some degree), it strikes me as ridiculous to see them refuse funding, and to do it in the most offensive, damaging way. Its clear to me that this is an attempt to sabotage her, so they can say, "See? We told you she couldn't win. Now bow and tug your forelock and do as we say, ignorant peasant scum."

I'd also like to see the raw numbers for the polls that show the Marxist so far ahead of O'Donnell. Are they talking registered voters? Likely voters? People who answered the phone?

I'm against even trying to create a third party, but I'm more in favor now of a Tea Party march through the GOP, starting at the local level. We simply need to take the party away from the Van Voorhees wing.

Posted by: Josef K. at September 15, 2010 08:17 AM (7+pP9)

393

also, dana parino wasn't exactly supportive of Christine either

But she's the cuteset, I forgive her.

 

Posted by: garrett at September 15, 2010 08:17 AM (RDnvk)

394

The point - its easy to say "we go third party" its actually harder to do. So, you will please accept my skepticism about it. And, perhaps you may understand why others are skeptical of it. Posted by: Mallamutt at September 15, 2010 12:02 PM


Well said. One of the attractions of the Tea Party movement as of now is that it is not a rigid, formalized political party. It could endorse a Dem if said Dem adhered to the amorphous "principles" espoused at most rallies so far. Assuming a Dem would be for limited, financially responsible government; such beings haven't been sighted for many decades.

Remember the howls when someone set up a for-profit Tea Party organization? Many people understood that the end result wouldn't fit the aims of the movement's millions of followers.

This conservative movement needs neither formal statements of purpose -- except for the Constitution, which should guide all Americans -- nor "famous faces" representing it. That way lies disunity and failure.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 15, 2010 08:17 AM (Ulu3i)

395 Posted by: garrett at September 15, 2010 12:17 PM (RDnvk)

Dana Perino is truly a class act.  I think the dems aren't the only ones "confused by what is happening in their universe" seems dana and karl are confused too.

Can't get out of my mind that glint last night in Begala's eye...somethings definitely up in begala's world....trying to figure out exactly what that something is

Posted by: curious at September 15, 2010 08:34 AM (p302b)

396 Grill your loins.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2010 09:09 AM (tkcGj)

397

"Can't get out of my mind that glint last night in Begala's eye...somethings definitely up in begala's world....trying to figure out exactly what that something is"

I'd just had a sudden daydream about that Inez babe...  Something UP in my world, indeed!  Bazowga!

Posted by: Paul Begala at September 15, 2010 10:27 AM (q/kmn)

398

Gird Your Loins - Joe Biden

 

Sorry Joe...but the Democrats don't have anything to work with!

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