September 02, 2010

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— Gabriel Malor


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Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 05:13 AM | Comments (262)
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1 Good morning! 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 05:13 AM (osFsP)

2 'Anybody understand the ins and outs of "net neutrality?"  I hate these stories where it seems likely that some bad shit is going down involving big players I don't fully understand.  I assume Google is a bad guy here. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 05:17 AM (osFsP)

3 Shrimp is the fruit of the sea...

Posted by: Bubba at September 02, 2010 05:18 AM (OtQXp)

4

i can't walk around with my birth certificate plastered to my head

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 05:18 AM (JeQ5T)

5

Tammy Bruce (.com):

Too late Dumb Bastard. Everything else you have planned makes token tax cutting irrelevant. They spend trillions telling us this will save the economy. They pass ObamaCare which is like throwing gasoline on the economic fire. And now 8 weeks away from the midterms these bastards start talking about tax cuts. Priceless. YouÂ’re fired, and everyone you associate with is fired. In fact, all your friends are fired, too. ItÂ’s November 2nd. Be prepared, because we are and weÂ’re not gonna stop.

I get the feeling she's mad about something...

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 02, 2010 05:19 AM (XdlcF)

6 This story on Vegas (baby) seemed timely.  The carpets were, indeed, ugly. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 05:20 AM (osFsP)

7

It's a mistake to expect 80-100 seats in the House and taking over the Senate. I'm with Sabato's and Geraghty's estimates this AM.

Geraghty brings some very interesting comments from his Obi-Wan, along the lines of- Do you think the Dems and the MFM are gonna sit on their hands and let us take away their power? Ever seen how someone fights when their survival is at stake?

Q: What can the GOP do?

First, predict it. Just tell the people that the White House and Democrats will try and control the media dynamic and narrative.

This is what they do. They donÂ’t really know how to govern for the public good; if they could do that, they would be in better shape. What they do know to do is use media events to hold onto power, to go on television and blab.

Second, Republicans ought to be using the words “October Surprise” endlessly. Hold a contest to see who comes up with the most creative suggestion for what the Dems might do.

Third, and above all, they need to cut off the one escape route the Democrats have, particularly the “moderate” Democrats who are trying to run away from Obama. Get the word out that this election is not just about Obama — he is just a symptom of what the Democratic party has been since 1972.- Obi-Wan


This weekend is the "deep breath before the plunge." The next two months will be D-Day at Omaha Beach.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 02, 2010 05:20 AM (SCcgT)

8
True Story.  A friend of mine got a call from Fannie Mae, otherwise known as the Federal Government. Fannie Mae told him he had to lower the price of his house so that he could only make a certain percentage before they would approve any buyers FHA loan.


Welcome to Barney Frank's America. 

The federal government is now telling YOU how much money you are allowed to make.
Our government is a toxic liberty-killing communist mess.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 05:21 AM (0fzsA)

9
PbPost reporting that Rick Scott may announce state Rep. Jennifer Carroll, R-Fleming Island, as his running mate today.

Carroll, 51, served 20 years in the Navy and retired as a lieutenant commander aviation maintenance officer.

She was elected to the state House in 2003.  Only black Republican in state legislature.

Break the liberal strangehold on black voters!

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at September 02, 2010 05:21 AM (JNqU9)

10 "4 i can't walk around with my birth certificate plastered to my head" It couldn't be a worse look than he has now. No worse than his wife's.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 02, 2010 05:21 AM (AZGON)

11 @6
I think the Vegas story may explain the FLOTUS' taste in dresses. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 05:22 AM (osFsP)

12
I love what Mark Stein said yesterday on Rush.

Something akin to---
"Obama spent more in 20 minutes that the cost of the entire Iraq war."



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 05:23 AM (0fzsA)

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 05:26 AM (osFsP)

14

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 09:22 AM (osFsP)

Man, those carpets should have been used in those old PSAs' "Your brain on drugs".

OTOH, maybe I can convince my sister to make a quilt that looks like some of those...

Posted by: HH at September 02, 2010 05:27 AM (6oDXl)

15

No surprize that the MFM is in full spin over the nut at the Discovery Channel yesterday. The reason he did it? Because he didn't like their programming choices like 'Kate Plus 8'. No mention of this guy being an adherent of Al Gore and radical enviro wack job.

And Yahoo which is to the left of Huff Po these days has the most ridiculous spin on the Alaska election. It is utterly devoid of reality

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2010 05:27 AM (1Jaio)

16 Japanese men continue to amuse

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 05:28 AM (osFsP)

17 "Obama spent more in 20 minutes that the cost of the entire Iraq war."

Yes he was discussing the official guv'mint estimate of 7 years of war in Iraq...something like 650 billion bucks.  The stimulus was 150 billion more and no one knows where the money went.

Posted by: trainer at September 02, 2010 05:28 AM (K5X44)

18 Its time that Roger Ebert proves that he is NOT a closeted homosexual. Put up or shut up. Anything less is a crime vs the USA

Posted by: Olliander at September 02, 2010 05:29 AM (j4xgZ)

19 "This is a deeply disturbing development, as it leads to the unfortunate suspicion that the FCIC does not have the slightest clue as to the causes of the housing collapse, recession and and market crash." link

"Outgoing Obama Aide Admits: Stimulus Failed Because We Didn't Understand The Recession"  link

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 05:29 AM (p302b)

20 i can't wait until scowl and big butt are shown the door. it's been one big party after another for them, while the rest of us pay. 800, 000  to redecorate one room, seriously? couldn't they have gotten oprah to do it for free. i'm not saying all gay guys make good decorators, but i'm fairly certain even barney frank could do the job for much less. just saying.

Posted by: befuddled at September 02, 2010 05:29 AM (xJU23)

21 So I've discovered that quail are really noisy.  They make a tremendous racket when they roost in our backyard or on our eaves. 

As if I needed another reason to cook them! 

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 05:30 AM (osFsP)

22 Consider that the equity markets have now been so devalued and with near-zero fed rates, the <strike>"wealthy"</strike> "connected" (of all political stripes) are poised to make a killing when the "rubes" with the 401k-s return from the no-yield bond markets when conditions change once the Democrats are dethroned.

Posted by: Neo at September 02, 2010 05:32 AM (tE8FB)

23 Archeologists in Mexico have recently discovered a new Mayan temple. While digging through what appeared to be a simple village, they happened upon the remains of a temple to the Mayan sun god buried deep below the surface. The temple, much like other Mayan temples, is arranged according to the Mayan calender. Mayan calenders are famously known for predicting the world's end in 2012, but this calender contains a startling other prediction. It simply states that as of September 2, 2012, Obama will suck cock.

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 02, 2010 05:32 AM (dxUuO)

24 Does Ace sell a dried pudding removal cream?

Posted by: Kemp at September 02, 2010 05:33 AM (AQxTm)

Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2010 05:33 AM (OlN4e)

26 That should read 2010 not 12. My bad to the Mayans.

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 02, 2010 05:33 AM (dxUuO)

27 @21  800, 000  to redecorate one room, seriously?

I read somewhere that they used campaign funds to pay for it.  Although I'm glad that they didn't use taxpayer money, the slushability of the campaign funds bothers me. 

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 05:33 AM (osFsP)

28 Send James Jay Lee's body to Al Gore.

Posted by: Dave C at September 02, 2010 05:33 AM (+kvdQ)

29 Anybody understand the ins and outs of "net neutrality?"  

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 09:17 AM (osFsP)

Whatever it once may have been, it is now a euphemism for government regulation of the internet. It's actually an idea that sounds halfway decent on the surface (if you've ever experienced the annoyance of cable and satellite "packages")... until you realize that moonbats are behind it and that they are lying about their intentions, which are to clamp down on freedom and silence speech they don't agree with.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 02, 2010 05:34 AM (Z3NCb)

30

How long before Obama's mama hooked up with her indonesian? I was wondering if, after reviewing the birfer thread, if Obama might not be african at all but indonesian. That would certainly cut down on his being considered black and also explain his disregard of his kenyan relatives. I'm guessing she had no idea who the actual father was. Perhaps an "unknown" on the birf certificate would throw his african roots into doubt. And I'm done with conspiracy theories for the day, thank you.

Posted by: dagny at September 02, 2010 05:35 AM (tkzth)

Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2010 05:35 AM (OlN4e)

32 On the bright side, even though the Obamas spent $800,000 to redecorate one room, Michelle got a new wardrobe in the bargain.

Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2010 05:36 AM (GwPRU)

33 This weekend is the "deep breath before the plunge." The next two months will be D-Day at Omaha Beach.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller

 

Uh, can we divert and land at Utah? Or maybe Gold, Juno or Sword? They have specialized armor at the last three. Frankly, Omaha sucks. The beach AND the city.

Posted by: guy in first wave at September 02, 2010 05:37 AM (R2fpr)

34 batchelor had a sub last night, again, but the sub is doing some of the program live and some in the can.  They replayed an interview of some guy, du pont, i think he's a governor or something have ot time to check.  But he is saying that they are setting the stage for queen hillary to arise and challenge BO in the next election.  This is why, says the guest, BO will outsmart her and ask her to be VP which, says guest, she will accept as this will surely make her president in 2016.   Guest said she is uber capable and will be president in one of the next four elections.  In other news her plastic surgeon says "hey thanks guys, I knew I was doing a great job but I really must be doing a great job if you guys really think she's not old and in like 2020 you still think she won't be too old and doddering to be prez."

du pont says BO's strategy of making her VP would eliminate the need for a long and tiring challenge.  (look at that, he even has to worry about a looming hillary!)

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 05:37 AM (p302b)

35
18 - Yep.

The Obama Stimulus price tag is higher than 8 years in Iraq.  And Obama has the audacity to whine about having to pay for our military effort.

Waaaaa - the democrats want more entitlement spending at home, and a much larger WELFARE state.  All that pesky military spending is just so mean... and wasted.

Obama is liar.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 05:38 AM (0fzsA)

36 Sorry but does anyone else here crack up at the radio Onststar commercials with the people crying that just got into accidents?

Posted by: Mr Pink at September 02, 2010 05:38 AM (dxUuO)

Posted by: Justin Camp at September 02, 2010 05:38 AM (nF4Jh)

38 even though the Obamas spent $800,000 to redecorate one room, Michelle got a new wardrobe in the bargain.

Well, she is a big fan of The Sound of Music. 

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 05:39 AM (osFsP)

39

Posted by: Olliander at September 02, 2010 09:29 AM (j4xgZ)

 

I believe that I speak for many here when I say, piss off. Whether he is or he ain't; whether is truthful or a liar, does NOT constitute a crime against the US. Is Ebert a jerk? Certainly? A poor movie critic? Yup. Foul mouthed? That too.

 

"Guilty of a crime against the US?" None that I know of.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 05:40 AM (R2fpr)

40

Billboard buyer shares why he brought 'Vote Obama?' sign to the Ozarks

When it comes to politics, there may be as many opinions as cars cruising down U.S. 65. So, naturally, there are different reactions to a billboard south of Ozark that says "Voted Obama? Embarrassed yet?"

"I know the president didn't win down here, but there were a lot of people down here that voted for him, and I think I can speak for them and say we are not embarrassed yet," Matthew Patterson, executive director of the Greene County Democratic Central Committee, said in a telephone interview on Sunday.

"My partner and I felt lots of frustration here lately, and we liked that sign and we thought that was a reasonable question to ask," Steve Critchfield said in a telephone interview on Monday.

Critchfield and his business partner from Commercial One Brokers, a real estate firm in Branson, saw a similar sign online, bought it, and brought it to the Ozarks.

"I've certainly voted for people I'm embarrassed to say I've voted for," he said. "We're not naïve enough to think that we wouldn't get someone to be upset. I'm just surprised how upset people are." Critchfield says he's received death threats due to the sign; people accuse him of hate speech and racism.
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Move these teabaggers to the top of my list.

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at September 02, 2010 05:42 AM (7+pP9)

41 du pont says BO's strategy of making her VP would eliminate the need for a long and tiring challenge.  (look at that, he even has to worry about a looming hillary!)

Posted by: curious

 

Pete DuPont? He was governor of Delaware, (1976-1984). He was one of our better ones. He was talking up Hillary? Or was he just brainstorming?

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 05:43 AM (R2fpr)

42 Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 09:39 AM (osFsP)

my interior decorator friend said "Laura Bush made the office look too quintessentially American, the BO's didn't appreciate that and wanted a more European modern look"

I posted pics the other day, I think from a drudge link.  Erin Burnett is still waiting for a WH response to the question:  "where are the computer and the tv?"....the pics I posted showed the corner of what I thought was a tv.  I'm assuming the "WH laptop carrier now travels in the same car with the guy who carries the football"

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 05:43 AM (p302b)

43 Front page of this morning's Savannah paper:

Kingston:  Lower drinking age for Soldiers

Congressman sponsors bill to let servicemen younger than 21 drink beer or wine on post.

The bill only applies to situations where beer or wine is intended for immediate consumption. It would not let personnel buy it at post stores and take it to drink somewhere else.

So far, Kingston has only one co-sponsor for his proposal, Gene Taylor, D-Miss.

But the bill faces a potential roadblock--Joe Wilson, R-SC.  Wilson is the top-ranked GOP member of the Armed Services Committee's Subcommittee on Military Personnel.

"Although I normally see eye to eye with Congressman Kingston," Wilson said, "I oppose this particular piece of legislation.  My concern is that lowering the drinking age for active duty service members could lead to alcohol abuse."


Interesting argument.  The legal drinking age in Okinawa is 20, and D'oh Boy definitely takes advantage (he's nearly 21).  Kingston finishes with this comment:

"I think we owe it to the people who are helping create our freedom to have a mature discussion about theirs."



Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 05:43 AM (UOM48)

44 Oh thank the stars! I was almost out of fucking cat filters.

Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2010 05:46 AM (OlN4e)

45 Blue Hen, here's a link to batchelor's podcast so you can listen for yourself.

link

you probably know the guy better and will be able to answer your own question after listening.  You can isolate his segment easily and it was like fifteen minutes.

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 05:46 AM (p302b)

46 Place your bets Morons and Moronettes. I wager one month's subscription to AoS that Ace will wax eloquent about the Delaware Republican primary today, partiularly for the Senate. I have a feeling.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 05:46 AM (R2fpr)

47 So, does this mean James Jay Lee had a great sense of humor or a lousy sense of humor? Throwaway Futurama Joke Kills Leftard Ecoterrorist

Posted by: naturalfake at September 02, 2010 05:46 AM (I49Jm)

48

Blue Hen, here's a link to batchelor's podcast so you can listen for yourself.

Curious

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Thank you sir. I'll check it once I return home. Work can be such an inconvenience.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 05:48 AM (R2fpr)

49

"IT'S A FREE COUNTY"... I WISH IT WEREN'T"
--Deval Patrick (D-Castro/Chavez adorer)

Well, there you have it.  The democrat's true feelings on free speech.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 05:48 AM (0fzsA)

50 40:  Though to be fair, the wardrobe is mostly made from the decorators' remnants.

G'mornin' morons.  Repeat card or not...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 02, 2010 05:48 AM (IkEhE)

51 @50
heh. Good pick up.

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 05:50 AM (osFsP)

52

Schools ban bracelets promoting cancer awareness

Cancer has ravaged several of Ann Aberson's relatives, so she doesn't have a problem with her two teenage daughters wearing bracelets to raise awareness of breast cancer.

But their school principal does.

This week, Baltic High School, just north of here, became one of the latest across the USA to ban the rubber bracelet, which has a message some say is in poor taste: "I love boobies."

The bracelets have caused controversy in schools in states including California, Colorado, Idaho, Florida and Wisconsin. Some districts allow students to wear them inside-out, and others ban them.
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Those bracelets are stupid.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 02, 2010 05:50 AM (7+pP9)

53
Shockka!

Corrupt Business-killing Unions are going to bash the GOP.

"Union leaders will unleash a concerted attack against Republican candidates and their "right-wing agenda" beginning this Labor Day weekend as they rally to stem expected Democratic losses in November's midterm elections."


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 05:51 AM (0fzsA)

54

Oh thank the stars! I was almost out of fucking cat filters.

Don't buy from these guys. My filter quit after 3 cats and they wouldn't give me a refund.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at September 02, 2010 05:51 AM (SCcgT)

55 @53
Well, given the Vegas carpet study, I guess it's fair to say we know how Obama plans on disposing of her body.  She'll be harder to find than Jimmy Hoffa once he rolls her fugly upholstery covered carcass in one of those things. 

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 05:51 AM (osFsP)

56 "IT'S A FREE COUNTY"... I WISH IT WEREN'T"
--Deval Patrick (D-Castro/Chavez adorer)

Well, there you have it.  The democrat's true feelings on free speech.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten

 

His opponent was just handed a murder weapon.

"In a free country, all Americans are free to vote for whomever they choose. Deval Patrick wishes that this was not the case. Let's grant that wish. On January 21, Mr. Patrick will have to work for a living, drive himself around, and pay for his own groceries. He will truly understand the meaning of, "this ain't a free country. Vote for:"

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 05:53 AM (R2fpr)

57
Union Buttload cont...

"The head of the nation's largest organized labor federation on Wednesday vowed a two-month media and grass-roots campaign to define the election as a fight between Democrats' efforts for the nation's workers versus Republicans' efforts to regain control of Congress for "corporate" America.


When Democrats and Union thugs say "Corporate America" - that's code for "Free enterprise".




Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 05:53 AM (0fzsA)

58 I am having fun watching HP and Dell fight over 3 PAR when there is a perfectly good company, computer associates, that does the same stuff as three par.  Sometimes I think business can't see the forest for the trees.

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 05:54 AM (p302b)

59 "I was almost out of fucking cat filters." Spay your filters.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 02, 2010 05:54 AM (AZGON)

60 I once used a cat filter on Tom. It was very effective.

Posted by: Jerry at September 02, 2010 05:54 AM (Z3NCb)

61 Vanity Fair hacks were on Morning Joe ripping Sarah apart this morning.  They've done a pretty vicious hit piece on her, claiming she drove one employee crazy enough to see a shrink, and threatened people on a regular basis with, "I can ruin you!"  Eeek.

I'm going to paraphrase one of the writers with this gem:  "As a Christian, I had a hard time writing this.  But I was forced to write something totally different than what I had intended."


Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 05:55 AM (UOM48)

62 @64
They spend a lot of time and energy tearing apart a trailer park baby mama who barely graduated college, don't they? 

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 05:57 AM (osFsP)

63 'Anybody understand the ins and outs of "net neutrality?"  I hate these stories where it seems likely that some bad shit is going down involving big players I don't fully understand.  I assume Google is a bad guy here.

It is a much pushed federal intrusion in to internet regulation. It started out as an attempt to push through congress but failed. Now they are trying to get the FCC to push it through w/o congress in the same manner as Obama has been doing all along.

The feds want it because it expands their power and gets the camel's nose in the tent and it also gave an "in" for the government to control content in the name of "neutrality". The people who are really pushing it are the big internet "user's" like Google who want to market things like streaming video movies and downloading video movies.

The "neutrality" name comes from a little bit of propaganda in the naming of the original bill to make it seam like all they were doing was making the internet neutral for all users. In actuality what the bill does is force the people who build and maintain the internet infrastructure to provide access to these big users at the same rates as the little users. In other words the huge bandwidth hogs who load down the net would get access for the same price as others.

This is not a "good" thing for the average consumer. It is market interference at the request of one group of players against another group of players. IOW, more laws favoring the political able and, as usual, the average Joe is left in the dirt.

The FCC has tried to push this through once before in an end-run around congress and they were challenged in court. They lost.

They haven't given up yet.  

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 05:57 AM (/jbAw)

64

Thank you sir. I'll check it once I return home. Work can be such an inconvenience.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 09:48 AM (R2fpr)

my pleasure.  It was a good interview and if you know the guy you will enjoy it.  btw,  i'm a moronette

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 05:58 AM (p302b)

65

claiming she drove one employee crazy enough to see a shrink, and threatened people on a regular basis with, "I can ruin you!" 

Shit, that's what my husband and kids say about me. No wonder I feel a bond with Sarah.

Posted by: dagny at September 02, 2010 05:59 AM (tkzth)

66

w. va is removing swing sets from schools because of litigious parents..........some kid got hurt jumping off the swing....and the parents sued...what happened to an "accident"  what happened to "well, when you jump off the swing you may get hurt so becareful and don't come crying to me"?  when i lived in md...i took my son to this little neighborhood park....it had one of those honeycomb climbing dome things....it was no higher than 5ft....well he loved that thing.....he could climb inside...climb outside....hang from it....it was fun! one day we show up at the park and there is a big space where this thing was....turns out.....some kid fell off of it the night before...it was too dangerous for the kids to play on it anymore and they were afraid of lawsuits......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 05:59 AM (JeQ5T)

67 Thanks, Vic. 

Ugh.  2012 can't come soon enough. 

How much of these end-arounds can we stop if we regain Congress in the meantime?  I mean, can't they cut off funding somehow? 

Is winning both houses realistic?  Will there be a veto-proof majority or simple majority?

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 05:59 AM (osFsP)

68 34 On the bright side, even though the Obamas spent $800,000 to redecorate one room, Michelle got a new wardrobe in the bargain.

Too bad they missed the Crate and Barrel sale.

Speaking of MOO, she is sponsoring a weekly Wednesday night dance series, featuring... wait for it... hip-hop

http://tinyurl.com/3xrumx4

Posted by: Museisluse at September 02, 2010 06:00 AM (DTfXb)

69 Deval Patrick's quote needs to be a Slublog Brand Democrat.

Posted by: real joe at September 02, 2010 06:02 AM (w7Lv+)

70 Word is Campbell's Soups is in negotiations with our first lady
to buy the technology she uses to create such a big can. 

ba-da-bump! 

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 06:02 AM (osFsP)

71 Obama Fun Fact: 

As our newly anointed Commander-in-Chief, when Obama first heard a reference to "commando," he thought it meant Michelle wasn't wearing any panties under her sundress.

Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2010 06:02 AM (GwPRU)

72 dagny, are you sure we weren't separated at birth?  Because D'oh Boy said after boot camp, "It wasn't as hard as I expected."  And he's been friended by one of his drill instructors on Facebook.

As I told the kid whenever he'd get the smart mouth, "I brought you into this world.  I can take you out."


Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 06:02 AM (UOM48)

73 Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 09:55 AM (UOM4

hahaha well beck said to expect stuff like this.   But then again, Anna Wintour did ok after "the devil wears prada"....

didn't she recently host a fund raiser for the prez?

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:02 AM (p302b)

74 Give me a pound of that shrimp that Obama was buying, a mallet, and 20 minutes and I'll put his shrimp where the sun never shines!  What a tool that idiot is.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 02, 2010 06:03 AM (ktYjH)

75 @66 Nice synopsis. They already regulate our toilet pipes and now they are after the interpipes. No activity may go unregulated.

Posted by: George Orwell at September 02, 2010 06:03 AM (AZGON)

76 @78
If he could, Obama would model the country after those shining examples of open society, China and Venezuela. 

Posted by: Y-not is livin' in the quasi-country at September 02, 2010 06:04 AM (osFsP)

77 curious, have you made the banana bread yet?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 06:05 AM (UOM48)

78 2 'Anybody understand the ins and outs of "net neutrality?"  I hate these stories where it seems likely that some bad shit is going down involving big players I don't fully understand.  I assume Google is a bad guy here. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 09:17 AM (osFsP)

Net Neutrality  - free internet for those "deserving" types the cannot afford it on their own, social justice for the interweb.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 02, 2010 06:05 AM (Qkkd8)

79 #64  Jane,  even Ben Smith at Politico is casting doubt on that article.  That Scarborough gave them a platform this morning is shameful.

Posted by: Miss Marple at September 02, 2010 06:05 AM (bixjr)

80 81 curious, have you made the banana bread yet?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 10:05 AM (UOM4

As we speak I have the bananas softening on the counter I expect to make it tomorrow.  I can't wait.

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:06 AM (p302b)

81 OK, I see Sabato is predicting +47 in the House and +8 to +10 in the Senate, so not veto proof and not even necessarily both houses. 

Posted by: Y-not answered her own question at September 02, 2010 06:07 AM (osFsP)

82 Vanity Fair hacks were on Morning Joe ripping Sarah apart this morning.  They've done a pretty vicious hit piece on her, claiming she drove one employee crazy enough to see a shrink, and threatened people on a regular basis with, "I can ruin you!"  Eeek.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

To quote my stepdaughter, "Really!?!"

So two years after the election, we are now hearing that she is a tyrant, that ruled the empire that is Wasilla with an iron fist? Did she demand recycled toilet paper? Abscond with the drapes? Require bigger and better jets and motorcades? if she did of this, that would mean that she has pased the entrance exam to be a Dem female office holder or Hollywood celebrity.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 06:08 AM (R2fpr)

83 It is just dawning on the libs that the war cost less than the stimulus..it's too funny, too funny

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:10 AM (p302b)

84 52 Heh. Where's that quote from? I have to post it on FB where at least half of my "friends" voted for the D-bag.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 02, 2010 06:11 AM (hV/FZ)

85 #66 Vic is missing the original impetus, which is that government-provided monopolies (ie, cable/phone companies) were investigating making traffic from web sites that didn't pay them slower.  So, for instance, Hot Air could send cash to your ISP and load fast while AoSHQ would get slower and slower.

The actual solution is of course more competition so if Comcast decided they hate pudding and bacon you could get Verizon FiOS or whatever.  But in Government Land the fix for market distortions caused by government is always more government.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Mmm Mmm Mmm at September 02, 2010 06:11 AM (tDPey)

86 Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 10:08 AM (R2fpr)

Sarah must be laughing hysterically "she has arrived"...if vanity fair has done a bona fide hit piece on her then wow, does she matter, probably more than even she thought she mattered.

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:12 AM (p302b)

87 OK, I see Sabato is predicting +47 in the House and +8 to +10 in the Senate, so not veto proof and not even necessarily both houses. 

Posted by: Y-not answered her own question

 

And yet he openly noted that both Lieberman and Nelson might  jump if the numbers were close. Tis better to ride the wave than be drowned beneath it.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 06:12 AM (R2fpr)

88 And sock begone

Posted by: Ian S. at September 02, 2010 06:13 AM (tDPey)

89 69:  I fully support taking warning labels off everything for 18 months and letting nature take its course.

Of course you'd have to hobble the courts too, which would have its own unintended consequences.  But then, trying to hold natural consequences of peoples' actions in abeyance...well, that ain't working out to well, now, is it?

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 02, 2010 06:13 AM (IkEhE)

90 Last night Chris Matthews said that Obama even brings the teleprompter into SMALL MEETINGS.   Can you imagine that?  He said business guys go to the White House for a meeting (maybe 20 of them) and Obama reads to them off a teleprompter.

This is not normal.  And this is not the first time I have heard this,  because a few months ago a democrat mayor complained about the same thing.

Why is he unable to do without a teleprompter?  Does he have a brain injury causing short-term memory loss?  (He has a large scar on his head,  and no,  it is NOT a part.)

One would thing the press would be a little bit curious about this.


Posted by: Miss Marple at September 02, 2010 06:13 AM (bixjr)

91 Steadman Shabazz Holder has filed another suit against Arizona:

In the new suit, filed Monday, the Justice Department says Phoenix-area Maricopa Community Colleges (MCC) discriminated against almost 250 noncitizen job applicants by requiring them to fill out more documents than the law requires to prove their eligibility to work.

Â…

It’s “unlawful to treat authorized workers differently during the hiring process based on their citizenship status,” said Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, in a statement. The government is “acting now to remedy this pattern or practice of discrimination.”


Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 06:13 AM (EPgc2)

92

87 It is just dawning on the libs that the war cost less than the stimulus..it's too funny, too funny

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 10:10 AM (p302b)

For months now I've been hearing on local talk radio that the deficit was caused by Bush's wars. I don't think they'll give up that meme easily.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 02, 2010 06:15 AM (7+pP9)

93 89 #66 Vic is missing the original impetus, which is that government-provided monopolies (ie, cable/phone companies) were investigating making traffic from web sites that didn't pay them slower.  So, for instance, Hot Air could send cash to your ISP and load fast while AoSHQ would get slower and slower.

The actual solution is of course more competition so if Comcast decided they hate pudding and bacon you could get Verizon FiOS or whatever.  But in Government Land the fix for market distortions caused by government is always more government.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Mmm Mmm Mmm at September 02, 2010 10:11 AM (tDPey)

It arose from Comcast trying to restrict traffic across their network that they didn't make them money. People complained - here comes the Feds.

Phone monopolies existed to provide universal telephone service before infrastructure was built. It's not needed for the Interweb becuase it re-uses for the most part telephone infrastructure.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at September 02, 2010 06:16 AM (Qkkd8)

94
HCR, the turning point.

creepy that HRC shares Hillary Rodham Clinton's initials.  ew.


Yo R's - campaign against the passage of HCR - and you will win.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 06:17 AM (0fzsA)

95

93 69:  I fully support taking warning labels off everything for 18 months and letting nature take its course.

Reminds me of the second episode of mass die offs in The Stand.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 02, 2010 06:18 AM (7+pP9)

96 ACLU Files Lawsuit on Behalf of Headless Americans


It's about freakin time.

Posted by: Roland, the Headless Thompson Gunner

 

Word.

Posted by: Zom Bee Metaphyically Exempt Americans Together(MEAT) at September 02, 2010 06:18 AM (R2fpr)

97

Is Mayor Bloomberg being wooed to join the Obama administration?

Asked about last weekend's four-hour golf game with President Obama on Martha's Vineyard, Bloomberg told reporters yesterday, "The economy was the main subject, other than discussing golf."

Now there are whispers that the president went even further and sounded out Bloomberg about whether he would join his foundering economic team as treasury secretary, replacing prime blame-target Timothy Geithner.

"Obama needs Bloomberg more than Bloomberg needs Obama," a source tells us. "Obama's looking to do something bold and credible before the election."

I thought little Timmy was the only person on the face of the earth who could fix all of the problems. Now he's going under the bus too?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2010 06:19 AM (1Jaio)

98 For months now I've been hearing on local talk radio that the deficit was caused by Bush's wars. I don't think they'll give up that meme easily.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 02, 2010 10:15 AM (7+pP9)


I'm just talking about regular people....I'm sure it will have a nice spin but regular people are suddenly seeing this...I've heard a lot of "hmmm I thought the war cost more than it did, I'm surprised" kind of comments lately.

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:19 AM (p302b)

99 Miss Marple@94

Wait.  I thought Chrissy believes Barky is scary smart?  Too cerebral for the proles?  If that's true, what is his Messiah doing carrying a freaking teleprompter into staff meetings, etc.?

My brain hurts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 06:20 AM (UOM48)

100 by requiring them to fill out more documents than the law requires to prove their eligibility to work.

Those poor, poor people! Being subjected to (*shudder*) paperwork!

Posted by: Farmer Joe at September 02, 2010 06:20 AM (z4es9)

101 Yo R's - campaign against for the repeal passage of HCR - and you will win.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 10:17 AM (0fzsA)

Can't give squishes like Cornyn any wiggle room

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 06:21 AM (EPgc2)

102 The Quiet Man,

I posted this link last night on the ONT cause I was like "ok now I know why he has been serving as the administration's water boy"  you will enjoy the pic of bloomie

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:21 AM (p302b)

103
Heh. Where's that quote from? I have to post it on FB where at least half of my "friends" voted for the D-bag. Posted by: Lincolntf

Hotair.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 06:22 AM (0fzsA)

104 Obama depending so much/so often on being rescued, whether by the MSM, Bill Clinton or Bloomberg, is unseemly. The man has no dignity, among his many other deficits.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 02, 2010 06:23 AM (hV/FZ)

105

96 captain hate

 

Steadman Shabazz Holder has filed another suit against Arizona:

In the new suit, filed Monday, the Justice Department says Phoenix-area Maricopa Community Colleges (MCC) discriminated against almost 250 noncitizen job applicants by requiring them to fill out more documents than the law requires to prove their eligibility to work.

Â…

It’s “unlawful to treat authorized workers differently during the hiring process based on their citizenship status,” said Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, in a statement. The government is “acting now to remedy this pattern or practice of discrimination.”

i'm sure asking for the additional information has nothing to do with the fact that the feds can shut down anything they want if they find illegal aliens have been hired....forcing mcc as well as all businesses to be overly cautious in their hiring practices......i wonder if the "discrimination" was merely not hiring these people because they were not qualified.......AND WHY IS THE JUSTICE DEPT BENDING OVER BACKWARDS FOR NON CITIZENS?  THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING FOR US!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 06:24 AM (JeQ5T)

106 Anyone else have hotmail?  It appears to be down.  Any you morons having the same problem?

Posted by: Kemp at September 02, 2010 06:24 AM (vSiVD)

107

Can't give squishes like Cornyn any wiggle room

Posted by: Captain Hate

Yeah.  Although I think it's important to not only remind voters of the horrid HCR bill, but as NeoNeocon reminds us, voters should be reminded of how the bill was passed: 
The backroom deals, the midnight meetings behind closed doors, the transparency promise that went up in smoke.  All that MUST be placed in the spotlight again.



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 06:25 AM (0fzsA)

108

Don't tell Allahpoundsit...but Megan McCain is a total fucking idiot

...and she has a paid staff of three for her blog??..seriously???

Ace gets his cob loggers to jump through the hoops for free...either that or he just plies them with Valu-Rite

Posted by: beedubya at September 02, 2010 06:26 AM (AnTyA)

109

If Bloomberg replaces Timmy the Obama administration is going to look like a ship adrift.

Me likey the idea.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 02, 2010 06:26 AM (7+pP9)

110

unlawful to treat authorized workers differently during the hiring process based on their citizenship status,” said Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, in a statement. The government is “acting now to remedy this pattern or practice of discrimination.”

1. What the Hell does 'authorized worker' mean?

2. According to the DOJ, it IS lawful to stand on the steps of a polling place shouting racial epithets and brandishing clubs.

 

Yet another campaign ad for the mid-terms.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 06:27 AM (R2fpr)

111

 Anyone else have hotmail?  It appears to be down.  Any you morons having the same problem?
Posted by: Kemp at September 02, 2010 10:24 AM (vSiVD)

I was just on it a few minutes ago...no problems

Posted by: beedubya at September 02, 2010 06:27 AM (AnTyA)

112 "A white rectangle hung over the city, imparting the date to the men in the streets below. In the rusty light of this evening's sunset, the rectangle said: September 2." Happy Atlas Shrugged Day!

Posted by: Dave C at September 02, 2010 06:28 AM (uTXUH)

113

Don't tell Allahpoundsit...but Megan McCain is a total fucking idiot

...and she has a paid staff of three for her blog??..seriously???

Ace gets his cob loggers to jump through the hoops for free...either that or he just plies them with Valu-Rite

Posted by: beedubya

 

Is she counting her 'assets' on the payroll?

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 06:28 AM (R2fpr)

114 It is just dawning on the libs that the war cost less than the stimulus..it's too funny, too funny

Don't show them this it will make their heads explode.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 02, 2010 06:28 AM (tf9Ne)

115 "30 Statistics That Prove The Elite Are Getting Richer, The Poor Are Getting Poorer And The Middle Class Is Being Destroyed"  link

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:29 AM (p302b)

116

with unemployment so high...how about revoking the "authorized workers" sending them back home and hiring some people who are coming off their 3yrs of "fun employment"?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 06:29 AM (JeQ5T)

117 I think it's funny that this guy considers basic media questioning such an imposition and offense. 

Posted by: Roach at September 02, 2010 06:29 AM (S5SBg)

118 If I was Axelrod, I would have grabbed Bloomberg to be the VP.  It would have been worth 1-2% which is more than you can say for most VP noms.

Posted by: Truman North at September 02, 2010 06:30 AM (3h3kv)

119 Does he have a brain injury causing short-term memory loss?

He inhaled. 

Deeply.

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 06:31 AM (osFsP)

120 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 02, 2010 10:25 AM (0fzsA)

Absolutely; they should have so much raw material for ads that extremely hard choices should be made on what to feature for the most impact.  Unfortunately with Steele, Cornyn and the country-clubber Repukes I have less confidence than I should...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 06:31 AM (EPgc2)

121 First that hefty sow Cristina Romer on TV, and now Hitlery Clinton?

Fuck. It's too early for so much concentrated ugliness.

Too bad the "cat filter" dude doesn't offer bitch filters.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2010 06:31 AM (Ulu3i)

122

"Net Neutrality" is at the top of organized labor's wish list.  It sounds so innocuous, just like "Employee Free Choice".  Just like EFC, Net Neutrality is the opposite of what it sounds like.

 

It requires internet service providers to give away their product at the lowest price to all users, no matter how much bandwidth they suck up.  It would be like the Mall of America should pay the same electric bill as the two-bedroom house down the street.  No matter that Mall of America is using 100x plus the amount of electricity, the dollar amount paid by the mall should be the same as the dollar amount paid by the homeowner. 

 

Unions want it because some of the few private sector unions still in existence today in the US are communications unions, and Net Neutrality would destroy those businesses (AT&T, Verizon, etc).  I know that's counterintuitive, but that's just how unions operate.  Any unionized industry is eventually bankrupted and forced out of business.

 

Posted by: Boots at September 02, 2010 06:32 AM (06JTY)

123 If I was Axelrod, I would have grabbed Bloomberg to be the VP.  It would have been worth 1-2% which is more than you can say for most VP noms.

Posted by: Truman North

 

But then you risked losing the mighty Delaware demographic (Biden).

Geez, even I couldn't keep a straight face typing that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 06:32 AM (R2fpr)

124
#42 @ 9:42
VOTE OBAMA?
Embarrassed Yet?


Missouri billboard buyer Mr. Critchfield says he's received death threats due to the sign; people accuse him of hate speech and racism.

Thin skinned bitter clingers with antipathy for those who are different.

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 06:32 AM (H+LJc)

125 "Steve Jobs Is Stunned (And Scared?) By Android's Growth"  link
For a while I was doing a lot of posting to the apple thread on a finance board....I could not understand why little eric was on the apple board of directors....I kept saying he was a spy, a mole and he had no business being there....seems I was absolutely right...

When they finally heard the cries of us shareholders I think it was already too late....



Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:32 AM (p302b)

126

Too funny ..

Phew! Ladies Nights Ruled Constitutional

Now I'm as anti-radical feminist as the next guy, but in the days I'd be trolling bars if I stumbled across a place where young ladies were consuming copious amounts of alcohol at bargain prices the last thing on my mind was who was the evil genius behind this scheme. In fact, during college we'd always be sure to go out with the girls to the $2 all you can drink nights since it usually meant plenty of cheap booze for us anti-feminist cavemen.

Posted by: Neo at September 02, 2010 06:33 AM (tE8FB)

127 112 Anyone else have hotmail?  It appears to be down.

Not at the moment, but it has been acting wonky for a week or so since the latest "upgrade." 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 06:33 AM (osFsP)

128

Learn something new every day.  Didn't know about the all-bandwidth-one-price aspect of Net Neutrality.

I'd heard about the aspect where it was supposed to mandate DSL / WiFi Internet access become as ubiquitous as landline telephones, water...basically, another "utility."  Because surely this will help all those poor inner-city childrens who can't bully on Facebook Wiki up their research papers from home, and have to use the library / stay late after school / go to Starbucks, where they gaze longingly while licking the glass separating them from blueberry scones...because, you know, poor.

Posted by: reason at September 02, 2010 06:34 AM (5npD/)

129 I really, really hate the "Huckabee Minute" or whatever it's called on Fox News radio.  Actually, "hate" may not be a strong enough word.

Jeebus, I hope that ass doesn't run for prez.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 06:34 AM (UOM48)

130 133 112 Anyone else have hotmail?  It appears to be down.

Not at the moment, but it has been acting wonky for a week or so since the latest "upgrade."

I hate it when e-mail services decide to "upgrade", it invariability screws everything up.  Doesn't matter if it's Yahoo or Gmail or even my school's e-mail account.

If it isn't "broke", don't fix it, morons!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 02, 2010 06:35 AM (9hSKh)

131
RE:  Teleprompter in small meetings

The simple answer is that he's too fucking stupid to speak without a script and he's too fucking lazy to memorize a script.

One of the things I love about Retarded Barry is how whenever his Teleprompter glitches or he loses his place, he starts pretending like there is a sound system glitch and starts asking whether people can hear him in the back while he tries to regain his place.  This weasel lies as naturally as he breathes.

Posted by: MikeO at September 02, 2010 06:35 AM (lBmZl)

132 Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 10:29 AM (JeQ5T)

yesterday some idiot head hunter told my WS friend that companies did not want her because she was not employed, he said they were specifically asking for people who were employed. 

It took all of us over an hour to stop her crying and calm her down.

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:35 AM (p302b)

133

138 curious

omg

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 06:36 AM (JeQ5T)

134 It arose from Comcast trying to restrict traffic across their network that they didn't make them money. People complained - here comes the Feds.

As I said, they resisted huge bandwidth hogs that wanted a free ride.

If you build a canal that will handle 100K gal/hr water to a nearby town and have a bunch of small water vendors using your canal for the rent of $20/week and then Joe Megawater comes along and wants to push 75K gal/hr through your canal for the same $20/week even though it will cause you to have to spend a million dollars to upgrade the canal you would fight it as well.

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 06:36 AM (/jbAw)

135 94: Barry needed his teleprompter to give his stump speech on the campaign trail. Did the press wonder why then? We have got to wrap our heads around the fact that a large portion of the press are mouthpieces for marxism, NOT objective reporters of fact.

Posted by: Palerider at September 02, 2010 06:38 AM (ql12X)

136 I posted this link last night on the ONT cause I was like "ok now I know why he has been serving as the administration's water boy"  you will enjoy the pic of bloomie

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 10:21 AM (p302b)

Bloomberg. What a schmuck. I guess Barry wants him because of his what? Economic miracle in NY

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2010 06:39 AM (1Jaio)

137 I'd heard about the aspect where it was supposed to mandate DSL / WiFi Internet access become as ubiquitous as landline telephones,

That wasn't "net neutrality". That was a different ballgame all together and HAS been passed as part of the stimulus package.

Basically it is more socialism in providing WiFi in inner cities for free.

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 06:39 AM (/jbAw)

138 Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 10:36 AM (JeQ5T)

you know people have posted links here to articles that said stuff like that but let me tell you, when one of your friends experiences it first hand you are like holy crap this is really happening it isn't just a link on the internet to an article on a business site....

and sadly they are so missing a great person and a good employee...makes no sense to me but i'd heard the same thing was going on with law firms...

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:39 AM (p302b)

139 Peace is just around the corner everyone, rejoice!

Secretary of State Clinton launches first direct Israeli-Palestinian peace talks in two years http://bit.ly/bhNcG2

/Never mind that Hamas has killed several Israeli citizens this week.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 02, 2010 06:39 AM (9hSKh)

140 Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2010 10:39 AM (1Jaio)

maybe he thinks he is comparable to steve forbes....he's not, no way, not even close...

I have friends who have worked for him.....i have encouraged them to write a book...hope they do

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:41 AM (p302b)

141 Steadman Shabazz Holder has filed another suit against Arizona:

It’s “unlawful to treat authorized workers differently during the hiring process based on their citizenship status,” said Thomas Perez, assistant attorney general for the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, in a statement. The government is “acting now to remedy this pattern or practice of discrimination.”


Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 10:13 AM (EPgc2)

Steadman is Barry's radicalism in force. If the Republicans can't use this to bludgeon Dems with the should just give up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2010 06:42 AM (1Jaio)

142 curious - anecdotal:  I'm in the market for a new phone, and it's time to embrace the dark-side and get a smartie.  iPhone isn't even on my radar.  The two phones I've got on my short list are making me scratch my head and try to decide between WiMo 6.5 and Android 2.1...

Posted by: reason at September 02, 2010 06:43 AM (5npD/)

143 And this bonehead move, if passed, is sure to help solve Cali's budget woes...

California 2012 ballot may include measure to divest from Israel.


(Seen on Carl in Jerusalem's site).

/It's as if the people in charge know what to do to put their state back on track, yet they strive to do the exact opposite as some sort of cruel joke.  

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 02, 2010 06:43 AM (9hSKh)

144 oddly enough my friend said yesterday that "oprah is so yesterday and her little empire seems to not be the powerful force it once was"....this from a bona fide card carrying lib/dem who is an obamabot extraordinaire...

I had such fun pointing out how she anointed BO and maybe the country now isn't so thrilled with her...

the response "well she's still rich!"

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:45 AM (p302b)

145 Laura Ingraham has some dipshit from Maine on who is trying to get voting rights for resident legal non-citizens on local issues.  This incremental bullshit has to be rejected goddammit because this is just the first fucking step to nullifying the voice of citizens at every level and we can't trust the DOJ shitheads or those two RINO whores in the Senate to countermand this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 06:45 AM (EPgc2)

146 Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it.

Posted by: Bubba (not the Clinton one) at September 02, 2010 06:45 AM (9hSKh)

147 phoenixgirl

Steadman Shabazz Holder has filed another suit against Arizona:

In the new suit, filed Monday, the Justice Department says Phoenix-area Maricopa Community Colleges (MCC) discriminated against almost 250 noncitizen job applicants by requiring them to fill out more documents than the law requires to prove their eligibility to work.

…The government is “acting now to remedy this pattern or practice of discrimination.”

Except that to gain authorized employment, the law DOES require documentation: birth certificate, driver's license, and social security card for citizens. And authorized non-citizens have to produce their passport and visa. Just because Holder makes an illegitimate statement does not grant the statement legal standing.

Sue, counter sue. It's time for Arizona to sue Holder and Obama for corruption of office without waiting for the next assault from DC. Provide the groundwork for impeachment while protecting American citizens and the State of Arizona.

/Given the long record of judicial activism, Americans should demand that the Federal District Court headquarters be moved inland, out of reach from any radical Marxist area such as San Francisco.

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 06:45 AM (H+LJc)

148
Does he have a brain injury causing short-term memory loss?



Daily doobies in the Harvard dorms.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2010 06:46 AM (P9+0W)

149 Posted by: reason at September 02, 2010 10:43 AM (5npD/)

I know, have heard a lot of this from my buds...but i'm an apple fan girl so you know....don't tell me this!!!!!   lol

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:46 AM (p302b)

150

kratos...........

these people are insane......"hey guys! let's vote on being anti semetic!"

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 06:47 AM (JeQ5T)

151 If you build a canal that will handle 100K gal/hr water to a nearby town and have a bunch of small water vendors using your canal for the rent of $20/week and then Joe Megawater comes along and wants to push 75K gal/hr through your canal for the same $20/week even though it will cause you to have to spend a million dollars to upgrade the canal you would fight it as well.

Yeah, but you were selling unlimited water access to your canal.  Rather than provide the service you said you could, you want to renegotiate once someone is already using your canal rather than make the infrastructure upgrades necessary to meet the initial service claim.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2010 06:48 AM (FkKjr)

Posted by: andycanuck at September 02, 2010 06:48 AM (3phFo)

153 As I told the kid whenever he'd get the smart mouth, "I brought you into this world.  I can take you out."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2010 10:02 AM (UOM4

Heh. Yep. Only serious mommies raise great kids. My oldest recalls the scene from Malcom in the middle where they try to haze Francis and he just rolls his eyes.

That's awesome about boot camp. That's a tribute to your not raising a sissy. Good job.

Posted by: dagny at September 02, 2010 06:49 AM (tkzth)

154 Net Neutrality is what happens when you hit that ungodly intersection of technology, business, and government.

The original idea is that a network would treat all data the same, regardless of origins.  This is efficient for the network infrastructure, but not so great for small users who get effectively clobbered by big ones.

So of course someone got the idea of modifying the infrastructure to be friendlier to the smaller users (who are often more numerous than the larger users).  Of course the smaller users loved this, as they could get decent guaranteed performance, but the big users who saw performance degrade...not so much.

Then someone in marketing realized they could defray the costs of this sort of thing by sorting the users by who was willing to pay for performance, so small and big could get the same speeds...if they were willing to pay for it.  A nice, market-based solution.

Enter the anti-market folks.  I think you can figure out the rest.

Politics are truly a plague upon mankind.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at September 02, 2010 06:49 AM (IkEhE)

155

Steadman is Barry's radicalism in force.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2010 10:42 AM (1Jaio)

When Shakes Reno wasn't charbroiling children in Waco, she was staffing the Clenis DOJ with the likes of Steadman and Coupe Deval.  This all began under the red-nosed predator who also used a recess appointment for Birr Ran Ree. who he couldn't even slip pass Miss Lindsey.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 06:50 AM (EPgc2)

156 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 02, 2010 10:39 AM

I think the talks have already failed.

The Pali terrorist representative has made demands in his opening speech that Israel must not accept, though I'm sure Osama Obama will press them to do so.

This is diplomacy? It's a fucking joke.


Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2010 06:50 AM (Ulu3i)

157 #154  Daily doobies in the Harvard dorms.

I thought His particular drug indulgence in Harvard was cocaine?  That's sure to kill off brain cells.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 02, 2010 06:51 AM (9hSKh)

158 This is the link to beck's new news site where he hired four real journalists to do stories....

when you google it...it's hard to find...

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:51 AM (p302b)

159 I just took my wife off HotMail.  After the last "upgrade" she was losing mail and the user-interface became almost unusable.

My theory is Microsoft must want to get out of the email biz.. there are thousands of people complaining about it.

Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at September 02, 2010 06:51 AM (f9c2L)

160 97 ACLU Files Lawsuit on Behalf of Headless Americans


It's about freakin time.

Posted by: Roland, the Headless Thompson Gunner at September 02, 2010 10:14 AM (MFbfZ)

 

Fuck you, Roland.  You're a dirty, headless Scandi, anyway.

Posted by: Van Owen at September 02, 2010 06:51 AM (E0EDC)

161 yesterday some idiot head hunter told my WS friend that companies did not want her because she was not employed, he said they were specifically asking for people who were employed

That sucks! 

If she has transferable skills, maybe she should look into the non-profit sector.  I don't mean church group type social service agencies, but the big guns like The Nature Conservancy or strong universities.  They often want people with a corporate background for both the money/endowment/compliance management end of things and even for some front-line fundraising work, such as corporate relations or sponsorships. 

Of course, she's probably looking at a big pay cut, but I think going non-profit for a few years and returning to for-profit could make a good story.  She could say (a couple of years from now) that she used the "opportunity" of being out of work to follow her passion (saving the squirrels or whatever). 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 06:51 AM (osFsP)

162 Oh, and the Nature Conservancy is one of the least twisted of the nature/conservation groups.  Fairly conservative as far as those go.  Mr Y-not almost took a job there. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 06:52 AM (osFsP)

163 "164 I'm starting to wonder when the Republicans will start to use all this ammo on the Democrats.

Posted by: toby928 at September 02, 2010 10:51 AM (S5YRY)"

I'm starting to think they are suffering from "msShame syndrome which means they aren't allowed to or don't want to"

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:53 AM (p302b)

164 164 I'm starting to wonder when the Republicans will start to use all this ammo on the Democrats.

These are not yet the hills to die on, my friend.  Keep marching backwards.

Posted by: Michael Steele at September 02, 2010 06:53 AM (9hSKh)

165 31 How long before Obama's mama hooked up with her indonesian? I was wondering if, after reviewing the birfer thread, if Obama might not be african at all but indonesian. That would certainly cut down on his being considered black and also explain his disregard of his kenyan relatives. I'm guessing she had no idea who the actual father was. Perhaps an "unknown" on the birf certificate would throw his african roots into doubt.

I have often thought that the reason for the great hidden birth certificate, has nothing to do with where Obama was born...I think it hides a greater secret. The entire string of missing documents, I think, would show that Obama was indeed an Indonesian citizen. That he received aid as a foreign citizen.

When this clown's term is over and he has lost the reins of power, you can damn well bet that the investigation will start in earnest. I think the libtards are going to eat shit right about then as they furiously try to obstruct and conceal the greatest hoax ever foisted on the American people. Really.

Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at September 02, 2010 06:54 AM (BlHbn)

166

Well, that was certainly some jackoffery. Middle East peace is for sure...THIS TIME.

Posted by: gator at September 02, 2010 06:54 AM (aOKEC)

167 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2010 10:48 AM (FkKjr)

Bullshit

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 06:54 AM (/jbAw)

168
When Obama first took office, one of his early speeches was @ Arizona State University's commencement.  Then the brouhaha because ASU didn't award Obama an honorary degree to compensate for his troubles.

Obama came to Austin, TX to address the public the other week. The only crowd that showed up were UT/Austin students for the most part. In that address, Obama praised American community colleges (the roar subsided to a muffle of approval from those UT students) as the SOLUTION to American public education, finishing with the "promise" to provide higher education for "free" because "something must be done" to change the numbers higher than 50% of minority students failing to complete any college degree within 6 years of study.

Now Obama's DA henchman is suing one of the BEST community college systems in the US organized in 1960 in Maricopa County Community Colleges to match ASU curriculum and faculty quality in order to alleviate ASU's night programs for working adults and high school graduates on a tight budget.

The Joker.

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 06:55 AM (H+LJc)

169 Has anybody had the virus Security Tool? I'm running lots o' security and I spent 1/2 of yesterday getting it off the desktop. They say it's from clicking on links.

Posted by: dagny at September 02, 2010 06:56 AM (tkzth)

170 Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 10:51 AM (osFsP)

i copied your post to an email and passed it along.   She's a tough broad with tons of education and experience, she'll be ok, she needed a good cry anyway, I think we all did lol

but it is just aggravating the things that are going on

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 06:56 AM (p302b)

171 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 02, 2010 10:43 AM

What's really scary is that Californioids will probably pass this. Even the deluded, self-hating limousine liberal Joos in SoCal will embrace this move for "inclusion" and "tolerance."

You think Bloomberg and Rangel sucking up to the mosque-o-vites is disgusting? Just listen to some of the privileged mental midget libs from L.A.'s Westside and you'll believe Bloomy and Convict Charlie are patriotic Americans.

I'm so glad I don't live in CA any more....

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2010 06:57 AM (Ulu3i)

172 i don't think michael steele thinks there is a hill worth dying on.......where is he anyway?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 06:58 AM (JeQ5T)

173 Does he have a brain injury causing short-term memory loss? Daily doobies in the Harvard dorms. I'm at the point where he has a tattoo on his hand that says "Remember Cloward and Piven" as well as a bunch of other tats on his chest, arms and legs that say "Middle Class, find it and kill it" "Object One: Pass Government Health Care" Object Two: Shut down dissent" and so on.

Posted by: Dave C at September 02, 2010 06:58 AM (uTXUH)

174
Peace is just around the corner everyone, rejoice!

Secretary of State Clinton launches first direct Israeli-Palestinian peace talks in two years http://bit.ly/bhNcG2

/Never mind that Hamas has killed several Israeli citizens this week.




I'm convinced that JugEars and his minions actually believe that this will be their October Surprise. *snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2010 06:58 AM (P9+0W)

175 Obama's response to the Palestinian murders of Jews at the very crossing point that Obama insisted Israel forfeit was worded so egregiously. No matter what you do, nothing you can do will stop me from aiding your efforts.

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 06:59 AM (H+LJc)

176 160 Net Neutrality

there's another piece to this..  There's consolidation going on that could impact networks considerably.

Comcast is out to buy NBC.  The "fear" is that without a net neutrality guarantee, Comcast could offer, for instance, a high-speed NBC sourced movie channel.  And they could give priority to Comcast customers when viewing content from this source.

So, you can see where this will lead.  The same goes for other conglomerates.

You want to watch a YouTube video, but your neighbors are all using the bandwidth that has a guaranteed higher priority than yours.

It's a potential real problem.. but it is still one I would still like to see the free market solve, rather than more regulatory nonsense.. especially from the FCC!

Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at September 02, 2010 07:00 AM (f9c2L)

177 The two phones I've got on my short list are making me scratch my head and try to decide between WiMo 6.5 and Android 2.1...

If that's your entire choice Android wins full stop.  WinMo 6.x is absolutely dreadful in day-to-day operation because it requires a plastic stylus and you *will* lose it.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 02, 2010 07:00 AM (tDPey)

178

Ace gets his cob loggers to jump through the hoops for free...either that or he just plies them with Valu-Rite

Posted by: beedubya at September 02, 2010 10:26 AM (AnTyA)


Not totally free. There's the pancakes.

Posted by: Rocks at September 02, 2010 07:01 AM (Q1lie)

179 Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 10:55 AM (H+LJc)

The mindless insecure vanity of the jugeared fuck was never more on display than the brouhaha over that honorary degree, which anybody with a working cortex knows isn't worth dogshit and is kind of a party favor that the wacademic douches dole out.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 07:01 AM (EPgc2)

180 175
Obama came to Austin, TX to address the public the other week. The only crowd that showed up were UT/Austin students for the most part. In that address, Obama praised American community colleges (the roar subsided to a muffle of approval from those UT students) as the SOLUTION to American public education

--

I think the community college trend is one that both sides embrace.  I've met a lot of conservatives who are so mistrustful of higher education that they really will only support community college and trade school type education.  I admit, I'm not fully comfortable with it, but that's my Research I university bias showing. 

I think access is extremely important, but some of these colleges use people who are simply not qualified to teach anything and some of the students are not able to learn anything.  Basically, they can be just big high schools.  On the other hand, for some people, community colleges serve a purpose, especially if you want to mature a couple of years before going away to college/university or if you have a specific trade or certification you need to get as a working adult. 

As I say, I'm conflicted.  I tend to prefer the model where the large public universities, particularly the land grants whose mission is supposed to be much more practical education centered, learn how to deliver education to a wider range of students.  It would teach the faculty to be more relevant in what they study. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 07:02 AM (osFsP)

181 Comcast is out to buy NBC.  The "fear" is that without a net neutrality guarantee, Comcast could offer, for instance, a high-speed NBC sourced movie channel.

The key to that problem is to use existing anti-trust law to prohibit Comcast from buying NBC.

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 07:03 AM (/jbAw)

182 Obama: he's not just on the wrong side of history, he's on the wrong side of stupid.

Posted by: Pigilito at September 02, 2010 07:04 AM (Idxux)

183 In case you hadn't noticed squish season is over and RINO's are about to become an endangered species. Posted by: Downsized Upscale at September 02, 2010 11:00 AM (IhHdM) In which case she'll scold the republicans about their unruly behavior and nominating 'extreme' candidates.. Then mourn over the loss of Bennet and Murky and shed a tear of Spector.

Posted by: Dave C at September 02, 2010 07:05 AM (uTXUH)

184 i don't think michael steele thinks there is a hill worth dying on.......where is he anyway?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 10:58 AM (JeQ5T)

Hopefully bound and gagged on a deserted island that nobody will visit between now and mid-November

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 07:05 AM (EPgc2)

185 Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 10:56 AM

I hope it helps. 

I think the plus about that strategy, if she can afford to do it, is that it gives her a great story for re-entering her main field.  I actually think it could help her advance later on.  Most big corps have a university engagement arm and I think those are sometimes used as proving grounds for employees they are thinking of using for bigger and better things. 

Of course, I am still so shell-shocked after being ground to a pulp in California's job market that I have yet to screw up the courage to take my own advice.  Right now I have the excuse of needing to work on the house move and resettling, but I really need to get back to work this winter or spring.  I think something may pop up here, though. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 07:06 AM (osFsP)

186 Although I'm glad that they didn't use taxpayer money, the slushability of the campaign funds bothers me.

Not me!

Posted by: Eurotrash With A Credit Card at September 02, 2010 07:06 AM (HjPtV)

187

Well, that was certainly some jackoffery. Middle East peace is for sure...THIS TIME.

Posted by: gator

 

Once again, bias by the chattering classes (media, elites) works in avor of the terrorists. They can, have and will again ignore such attempts at sabotage. We can count on emphasis being placed on the decision by settlers to resume construction. Obama will be portrayed as being another well meaning victim. if possible, it will be written off to Israeli intransigence.

 

How that will play in November should be interesting.

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 02, 2010 07:06 AM (R2fpr)

188 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 02, 2010 10:48 AM (FkKjr)

Bullshit
Posted by: Vic

I doubt that anything in the agreement stated "unlimited" beyond the provisional bandwidth. And in a free market, the supplier can choose clients the same as clients can shop for suppliers.

/But with education, you'll find that most people satisfied to get less than they pay for, so long as that certificate or degree is a certainty.

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 07:06 AM (H+LJc)

189 How would you like going to bed every night knowing that when your term is over- they are going to stick a microscope up your ass and all those skeletons are going to come dancing out?

I don't give a shit about elections in 2012. I am after vindication and justice. The won better stock up on grecian formula and ulcer meds cause..

Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at September 02, 2010 07:06 AM (BlHbn)

190

I have no problem with community colleges but does Barky really think that a lack of community college is what keeps "50% of minority students failing to complete any college degree within 6 years of study."

We're back to our same conversation as yesterday. I wonder what the stats are on 2 parent families and college attendance/completion. I'm guessing it's highly corrolated.

Posted by: dagny at September 02, 2010 07:09 AM (tkzth)

191 198 Wanna bet the republicans wimp out and refuse to investigate?

Posted by: dagny at September 02, 2010 07:11 AM (tkzth)

192 Wanna bet the republicans wimp out and refuse to investigate?

The single best argument for Alan Keyes' existence. 

Supreme Court Justice Alan Keyes has a nice ring to it...

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 07:12 AM (osFsP)

193

I don't give a shit about elections in 2012.

Jacked thing about it is the Light Bringer™ could still get re-elected. The economy is bound to get less worse (Bush tax cuts extended for everyone except the people that pay all the taxes), he'll have a Republican Congress to blame, and have you noticed he's sort of black? Liberals are so condescending toward minorities, they will overly praise any minor accomplishment....this jug-eared bastard gets Special Olympics-grade applause from them.

Posted by: gator at September 02, 2010 07:13 AM (aOKEC)

194 The key to that problem is to use existing anti-trust law to prohibit Comcast from buying NBC.
Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 11:03 AM

This is a flaw in the "free-market solutions" model, IMO.

In past centuries, business generally gained market share by offering products at lower prices, or by putting more value into whatever they made/sold. Today, businesses buy out the competition and get a stranglehold on their area. Look at all the dot-coms that are acquiring every company that might pose a threat to them.

While many howl about regulating businesses -- you there, Kudlow? -- there is a legitimate reason for anti-trust laws.

In theory, such a law should not be necessary. But some greedheads in the corporate world would rather take the easy way out than put in the hard work to put their own products and services on top.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2010 07:13 AM (Ulu3i)

195 (He has a large scar on his head,  and no,  it is NOT a part.)

Alien implant?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 02, 2010 07:14 AM (yhlnw)

196 Y-not

I agree absolutely. But the point is that Obama promotes something that he immediately mutilates, education through community colleges.

think access is extremely important, but some of these colleges use people who are simply not qualified to teach anything and some of the students are not able to learn anything.  Basically, they can be just big high schools. 

That is exactly what Austin Community Colleges are, often LESS proficient than high school, hiring anyone to teach whatever, spending as much on flower arrangement "continuing ed" programs as on core curriculum. This exacerbates the outrage, that Obama attacks one of the nation's FINEST community college systems while promoting the worst, because he could.

 

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 07:15 AM (H+LJc)

197 Community colleges are a fave of the commiecrats because it enables people who've been poorly served by the dogshit public schools to get a further degree when they're obviously not qualified for a four-year college or university through no fault of their own.  That fat tub of shit Algore shilled for them during the Clenis years.

Community colleges serve a unique role and I'm not badmouthing them in any way; but ManBearPig and his ilk show their hypocrisy by boosting something that they'd never set foot on even though they're significantly dumber than the average student.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 02, 2010 07:15 AM (EPgc2)

198

Barky really think that a lack of community college is what keeps "50% of minority students failing to complete any college degree within 6 years of study."

That, and crackas. Keeping a brother down. This is racism against a black man, straight up. Reptile brain and all that.

Posted by: Janeane G. at September 02, 2010 07:15 AM (aOKEC)

199 Supreme Court Justice Alan Keyes has a nice ring to it...
Posted by: Y-not

You're right!

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 07:16 AM (H+LJc)

200 This exacerbates the outrage, that Obama attacks one of the nation's FINEST community college systems while promoting the worst, because he could.

Yeah.  God he's a thug. 
Sigh.

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 07:16 AM (osFsP)

201 Supreme Court Justice Alan Keyes has a nice ring to it...
Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 11:12 AM

You're kidding, right?

Everything I've ever heard from -- or read about -- Keyes suggests he'd be as much an "activist" judge as the worst lefty scumbag.

I don't want anyone, from left or right, dictating the way I live my life. Keyes gives the impression of being the kind of guy who won't be happy until every American lives, works, believes and acts just like...Alan Keyes.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2010 07:18 AM (Ulu3i)

202 206 Community colleges are a fave of the commiecrats because it enables people who've been poorly served by the dogshit public schools to get a further degree

That and it's intellectual segregation.  Can't have the smarty-pants folks mixing with the low-brows.  And you certainly can't expect elite faculty to teach general courses to the masses.

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 07:18 AM (osFsP)

203 In theory, such a law should not be necessary. But some greedheads in the corporate world would rather take the easy way out than put in the hard work to put their own products and services on top.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2010 11:13 AM (Ulu3i)

The theory should take human nature into account (isn't that one of the reasons we bag on socialism?).  So the reason the law is neccessary isn't greed being an aberation, but some circumstance that makes cheating easier than making better stuff. Maybe it is the nature of the industry (in which case we need more laws), though in a lot of cases it's probably unforeseen effects of other regulation.

Posted by: Randy at September 02, 2010 07:19 AM (zQKSr)

204 Supreme Court Justice Alan Keyes has a nice ring to it...

I was going to ask about his background, then I remembered experience isn't necessary to be on SCOTUS anymore.  Thanks, Barry!

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 02, 2010 07:19 AM (yhlnw)

205 This is a flaw in the "free-market solutions" model, IMO.

True, but it is an interference that we have been living with since the days of Teddy "trustbuster" Roosevelt. This is the exact kind of situation that the anti-trust laws were developed. And it would fix a problem without any "new" laws which inevitably will create other problems.

But yes, the ideal situation would be to get the government totally out of business all together the way it pretty much used to be before the early 1900s.

The only thing the government should be doing is enforcing the laws against theft, fraud, and violation of legal contracts. 

But we will NEVER go back to that so we have to have laws to fix the problems caused by other laws.

Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 07:20 AM (/jbAw)

206 You're kidding, right?

Yes, I'm kidding.

However, I actually think Keyes' challenge of the Obama eligibility seemed quite legitimate.  I was appalled that a candidate did not have standing to challenge another candidate's eligibility.

And on the few occasions I've listened to Alan, I have to say I enjoy the way he delivers his message.  He's nice to listen to, unlike jugears. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 07:20 AM (osFsP)

207 Basically, they can be just big high schools.

The community colleges I'm familiar with would be wholly unnecessary if the high schools weren't just big kindergartens with football teams.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 02, 2010 07:21 AM (yhlnw)

208 Let's face it.  For virtually any of us in our 40s (or older) the public school education we received is far inferior to what our parents received, particularly in terms of writing, history, civics, and the things that make you a well-rounded contributing member of a democracy.

Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 07:24 AM (osFsP)

209 dagny

"50% of minority students failing to complete any college degree within 6 years of study."

Obama was talking all over the place, like throwing candy to the crowd, only speaking in English instead of rallying with Sí, se puede. It wasn't just the community college but the 4-yr. bachelor's degree that he promised to provide to students "because we're a better nation than that."

These kids don't stop to consider that THEY are the ones who will pay for their federally subsidized education, THROUGH THE NOSE because they opted to get it from federal tax supplies always squandered on bureaucracies along the way before ever reaching the student, creating black hole debt that everyone pays to fund, compared to an individual purchase for education with confined debt limited to what the individual borrows. 

/Who ever thought that a free lunch would encourage starvation?


Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 07:25 AM (H+LJc)

210 beck just told a story of something Sarah Palin did.  I'm sure Sarah Palin doesn't even think twice about having done it and wouldn't consider it a big deal and is probably going to be pissed at Beck for telling the story.  But what struck me is that beck feels the need to say "these are good people" when in actuality they are just doing the right thing, doing what a good person does, doing what a person of faith would live.  It is so sad in this country that there are more of the "thems" than the ones who are just doing the right thing and not caring for any kudos or anything.

Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 07:28 AM (p302b)

211

Alien implant?

I swear that's the first think I thought too. Gotta lay off the sci-fi channel.

Posted by: dagny at September 02, 2010 07:30 AM (/HFKu)

212 True, but it is an interference that we have been living with since the days of Teddy "trustbuster" Roosevelt. This is the exact kind of situation that the anti-trust laws were developed. And it would fix a problem without any "new" laws which inevitably will create other problems.

I agree that anti-trust enforcement is necessary because of human nature, but even Dr. Sowell has a blind spot about this. 

A distorted market is a distorted market.  It doesn't matter whether it's government doing the distortion or a big-ass, rent-seeking monopoly player throwing its weight around.

When I ask myself where my expected reactionary revulsion toward anti-trust laws went, I remind myself that a corporation is a creation of the government (in this country, that's supposed to be "we, the people") and must thus live by all the rules--not just the ones that work to its benefit.


Posted by: MikeO at September 02, 2010 07:31 AM (lBmZl)

213 Y-not at September 02, 2010 11:24 AM

My generation was at the cusp, the youngest children of WWII vets. We still had the same curriculum as our elders though things were definitely changing. But we witnessed the changes, knowing how it "was" as well as having to make adjustments for "new, improved" messaging. It was the new college grad kids replacing the retiring faculty of high schools who encouraged CHANGE.

You know, Rep. Harry Mitchell should be up in arms for the Maricopa County Community Colleges that he represents as a former high school teacher. Raum got Mitchell elected, beating JD Hayworth who just can't seem to win anymore. 

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 07:33 AM (H+LJc)

214

"apple fan-girl"

OMG I am totally not clicking on any more of your links EVAR. 

Posted by: reason at September 02, 2010 07:34 AM (XiVKO)

215

The community colleges I'm familiar with would be wholly unnecessary if the high schools weren't just big kindergartens with football teams.

I disagree.

Even though there are a lot of crap courses in a community college, don't write them off. In my experience, they do a damn fine job of preparing students for a medical career. Nursing, Respiratory, Radiology etc. Gets you into the field without the expense of a major degree.

I got a 2yr degree in medicine, and went on to work for years at a very large hospital in LA. Although I've since left the field, it was a CC that gave me my start.

I really don't think they teach that sort of thing in H.S.

Posted by: HH at September 02, 2010 07:36 AM (6oDXl)

216

"WinMo 6.x ... requires a plastic stylus and you *will* lose it."

Ahh, trips down memory lane of the days when I used to carry a Palm are swirling.

Yes, I lost the stylus after about three or four months.  Best toy I ever got, though, was a Staedler pen.  One of those retractable types with three different barrels inside, so you could get either a ballpoint pen, a mechanical pencil, or a plastic stylus tip.  It was great.  NEVAR without my stylus!

...'til I lost the pen, at least...

Posted by: reason at September 02, 2010 07:37 AM (XiVKO)

217 And on the few occasions I've listened to Alan, I have to say I enjoy the way he delivers his message.  He's nice to listen to, unlike jugears. 
Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 11:20 AM

What a relief!

Every time I see Keyes I'm reminded of the comedian George Kirby. I watch and wait for Keyes to do his Ella Fitzgerald or Richard Nixon impressions....

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2010 07:38 AM (Ulu3i)

218

re:  colleges (community, and otherwise)

"I believe wholeheartedly in degrees.  However, I do not believe in pedigrees."
- Dave Ramsey

Posted by: reason at September 02, 2010 07:38 AM (XiVKO)

219 A nother oil rig explosion in gulf, just now breaking...

Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at September 02, 2010 07:40 AM (BlHbn)

220 While we're on the subject, what do people think about degrees from online colleges? I was peaking at some ratings that ranked ones I'd never heard of high, but you gotta wonder about name recognition, too...

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 02, 2010 07:41 AM (XdlcF)

221

@118 Happy Atlas Shrugged Day!

I suppose you saw it too: couple days ago, a major science paper on the possibility of extracting electrical power from the moisture in the atmosphere? And the commenter said, "You do know Ayn Rand thought of this in 1957?"

She's still totally irrelevant, though. Same as always.

Posted by: comatus at September 02, 2010 07:43 AM (hrwMe)

222

189 Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 11:02 AM (osFsP)

On the other hand, for some people, community colleges serve a purpose, especially if you want to mature a couple of years before going away to college/university or if you have a specific trade or certification you need to get as a working adult. 

Community colleges are also a great way to pick up some core curriculum classes on the cheap.  If you've had a decent high school education, you can just go ahead and knock out Math and English 101 for a lot less $$$ before transferring to the college or university of your choice.  If you haven't had a decent high school education (sadly far too common nowadays), you have the ability to hone your skills in whatever areas your deficiencies may lie before going further.  You also get a chance to try out what areas of study interest you before committing to the them later, again at a much lesser expense. 

On the other hand, sometimes you really do get what you pay for.  Like you said, some of the instructors at the community colleges are awful and their classes are a complete waste of time and money.  Then again, even the small elite schools have their share of useless faculty as well. 

Posted by: lace whig at September 02, 2010 07:48 AM (+OP3J)

223

I got a 2yr degree in medicine, and went on to work for years at a very large hospital in LA. Although I've since left the field, it was a CC that gave me my start.

I really don't think they teach that sort of thing in H.S.

Posted by: HH

My premise is that excellence in community colleges is desirable and well worth the necessary taxation. I agree that core curriculum and certified professional training is the role of the public tax funded community college. In our family, most of us have taken community college courses along the way learning computer programs. Our oldest began at a major university, whereas our youngest chose travels before settling at the community college first year before transferring to a major university. Since many of the largest universities with 50K students weed out their less desirable students first year, for some people and personalities, excelling the first year in a smaller setting works best.

The problem is that too many community colleges would not pass accreditation if scrutinized, and like any other form of public (and private) education, squander more budget on architectural flair and administration than on faculty and student lab equipment. I don't care about private institutions' budgets. I do care if I am taxed to provide flower arrangement classes or basket weaving, and I especially care about being taxed to fund incompetence. I am outraged that the POTUS would persecute one of the finest community college systems in America, working to drag it down to the level typical in Austin, TX with ACC.

 

Posted by: maverick muse at September 02, 2010 07:53 AM (H+LJc)

224

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 02, 2010 11:41 AM (XdlcF)

An online degree? Feasable, but nothing replaces being in a class-room and asking questions, which also may spark someone else. Not to mention the bonding of the students, either studying together or just ragging on the bad teacher. Plus a lot of learning is hands on, one way or the other.

Not gonna get that from just reading.

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The community colleges I'm familiar with would be wholly unnecessary if the high schools weren't just big kindergartens with football teams.

The community colleges grad schools I'm familiar with would be wholly unnecessary if the high schools  colleges weren't just big kindergartens with football teams.

The community colleges Costa Rican bunkers I'm familiar with would be wholly unnecessary if the high schools American cities weren't just big kindergartens with football teams.

I'm trying like hell to FIFY, but it's an endless regression. No end in sight.

Posted by: comatus at September 02, 2010 07:57 AM (hrwMe)

227 In my experience, they do a damn fine job of preparing students for a medical career. Nursing, Respiratory, Radiology etc. Gets you into the field without the expense of a major degree.

I think you're conflating "community college" with "technical school", or maybe you're from a state that doesn't make the distinction?  Technical/vocational schools prepare people for careers.  Community colleges teach pre-algebra to people who never learned it in 8th grade.

Posted by: HeatherRadish is a crank at September 02, 2010 08:01 AM (yhlnw)

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An online degree? Feasable, but nothing replaces being in a class-room and asking questions, which also may spark someone else.

In general, I tend to agree with you. For me, I'm just kinda sorta looking into getting an Accounting degree. I already have a B.A.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 02, 2010 08:02 AM (XdlcF)

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 think you're conflating "community college" with "technical school", or maybe you're from a state that doesn't make the distinction? 

Guess so. Mine did both.  Pima Community College in Tucson, Az.

Posted by: HH at September 02, 2010 08:08 AM (6oDXl)

230  think you're conflating "community college" with "technical school", or maybe you're from a state that doesn't make the distinction?

They're conflated here in Northern Virginia, as well.  The wife and I always thumb through the course catalogs when they arrive. 

Posted by: MikeO at September 02, 2010 08:14 AM (lBmZl)

231 For me, I'm just kinda sorta looking into getting an Accounting degree. I already have a B.A.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 02, 2010 12:02 PM (XdlcF)

That's a tough one imo; but if you already have some basic understanding of accounting principles than I say go for it because each subsequent class will just build on what you already know.  I've taken accounting courses at the undergrad and grad school level and each intro level class always has a few people that just don't get it.  You see them in class and feel bad for them because you want the light to go on but sometimes it just doesn't, no matter how good the teacher is,

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Posted by: SurferDoc at September 02, 2010 08:22 AM (X6a9o)

233 I'm just kinda sorta looking into getting an Accounting degree. I already have a B.A.

I think online would work well for you.  Or maybe there's even a certification program offered through night classes at your local university or CC.  Maybe you don't need a "degree" per se.

I worked in a B-school for a few years (sighs wistfully) and our school was wrestling with offering an online MBA.  Some very good B-schools have them.  But as I understand MBA programs, the students really need a lot of hands on and small group work, so I doubt online can really fit the bill.  Perhaps the online degrees augment their programs with some in person work. 

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