1 What do I win?

2 guy loves himself doesnt he?

3 What he didn't say was that the pitchforks were aimed at him, not the folks behind him.

4 Just like Barry, I'm polished!

5 Barack Obama thought he was Robespierre.

6 man i bet the obama library after his presidency is gonna be hilarious...

7 There is nothing standing between Barry and a well sucked cock.

8 WTF?  Are the Amish on the rampage again?

9 Well Barry, get out of the way and let us get our damn pitchforks already!

10 Top Story

Alaska paper says not so fast with the Murk run as a Libertarian described by the AP article.

http://tinyurl.com/2faz4dg

Libertarians cool to Murkowski candidacy

Sen. Lisa Murkowski met with Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate David Haase on Tuesday to talk about taking his place and running on the Libertarian ticket. But Alaska Libertarian Party Chairman Scott Kolhaas said after the meeting that "I don't think it's happening."

11

Sept. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Democrats visiting Cuyahoga County, Ohio, can usually count on a friendly reception in this party stronghold. President  Barack Obama, who arrives today, may sense a chill.

While many remain supportive of Obama, who got 68.5 percent of the county vote in 2008, they are angry at the Democratic- controlled Congress as well as state officials. That means trouble for Democrats fighting to keep control of the U.S. House, Senate and statehouses.

“It’s just a circus,” said Linda Powers, a 54-year-old resident of Shaker Heights, ticking off a list of grievances against Congress, from a lack of assistance to manufacturers to the party’s support for gay rights. “They act like children.”

The chickens are coming home to roost

12 Preznit Toonces may have let the terrier out of the carrier with his like a dog remark.

13 "I knew it [the water] went bad because we could light it," Ely said.



That's some good stuff right there.

14  -- 5: Considering how Robespierre wound up, he may yet be.

15 All should read the story on the sidebar

One step closer to immortality! No voters died and were removed from the voting lists in 5 states 2006-2008.

It will make you mad as hell and one reason why the Republican House needs to call for cleaning at the DOJ from the top down.

16

Still the icon of Barry's presidency imo, is him trying to take the umbrella through the gate.

Oh how Chris Mathews' leg must have been tingling over that exhibition of genius at work.

17 7 There is nothing standing between Barry and a well sucked cock. And there is nothing standing between me and a chance to suck Barry's cock either.

18 That actually made me think of another way to take them out. Since they are not enforcing that part of the law why couldn't someone challenge them in court and force them to do it or to declare the law unconstitutional due to "selected enforcement".

19 That "spreading the wealth around" thing sure is working out great huh?

20 Lovely morning, when HA's Quote of the Day thread devolved into 'Is Mike Castle switching parties?'  Good times...

21 Posted by: Vic at September 08, 2010 09:22 AM (/jbAw) You say that as if we are a nation of laws still..

22

Hillary allows the little people a glimpse of the cards she is holding and gives a hint as to her next campaign slogan:

http://tinyurl.com/2bflq7s

"Vote for Hillary.  We're counting on your stupidity."

 

Fracking premature senility must be just ravaging this poor woman's mind.  That's all I can figure.

23

Mebbe fewer people would stop talking about Zero like a dog if he could restrain himself from heisting his leg all over the constitution and take his pack of fleas elsewhere.

BTW, one tiny sun spot, down from a couple. Globalfriggin'warmin'!

24 Posted by: Vic at September 08, 2010 09:20 AM (/jbAw)
I think it was not yesterday but the day before that I happened upon Mark Levin in the car and he was interviewing a former DOJ attorney and what the guy was saying was downright frightening.  He did mention something about not cleaning up the voter roles...and he mentioned a few things that were "by design" but I can't remember if not cleaning the voter rolls was "by design" or just not enforced.

25 18 That actually made me think of another way to take them out. Since they are not enforcing that part of the law why couldn't someone challenge them in court and force them to do it or to declare the law unconstitutional due to "selected enforcement".

Posted by: Vic at September 08, 2010 09:22 AM (/jbAw)

Vic, I think J. Christian Adams has decided to do just that.

26

Sept. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Securities firms around the world will cut as many as 80,000 jobs in the next 18 months as revenue growth begins to slow, said Meredith Whitney, the former Oppenheimer & Co. analyst who now runs her own firm.

The reductions, about 10 percent of current levels, will come after 2010 compensation payments, Whitney, 40, said in a report dated Aug. 31 and obtained by Bloomberg News today.

Are these jobs created or saved or in the ditch?

27 Odd, a politician was caught lying. Just another typical day.

28 We talk about the clothes Michelle wears.

29 but I can't remember if not cleaning the voter rolls was "by design" or just not enforced.

Both, they are not enforcing it "by design". The Dems love them some dead and felon voters. That is why not only do they not want to enforce that part of the law, but they also uniformly oppose voter ID.

Baghdad has better vote honesty than the U.S.

30

Here's some knowledge for you morons:

Economists said in September 2008 that the economy would collapse if AIG — the insurance company that guaranteed $2.8 trillion in mortgage-backed securities without any collateral — was allowed to go bankrupt, Kanjorski said.

"They were the key to collapsing every financial system in the world," Kanjorski said. "They were making money hand over fist until the beginning of the collapse."

A financial collapse would have been worse than the 1930s Depression, he said. Nobel Prize winners warned lawmakers the economy would regress by centuries and law enforcement officials said personal liberties couldn't be guaranteed, he added.

"They basically said we couldn't provide for law and order," Kanjorski said. "If we didn't do what we did we wouldn't be in the United States today. It would have brought the entire government down."

There will be a political judgment of the government's response this November, but he predicted history will judge their actions as correct.

The regulatory reform package encompasses eight bills, including predatory home loan reform Kanjorski said he first tried to pass following a Poconos hearing in 2004 on Monroe County's massive foreclosure rate. Subprime lending resulted in people being given mortgages they couldn't afford, for homes that weren't worth the sales' price due to collusion among sellers and appraisers who determined the home's local market value.

"We had a mini-picture of what was about to happen in two or three years across the country and it did," Kanjorski said. "Hopefully, appraisers will never again line up with developers, line up with banks."

Kanjorski noted his "too big to fail" amendment that allows government regulators to dismantle multi-faceted corporations whose collapse threaten the entire economy, rather than prop them up with taxpayer money.

"What we have to do is make sure the regulators are willing to use that power and do use it," he said. "It's my estimation they would only have to do it once."

31 I gotta, gotta, gotta get away (golfing).

32

Yet another reason for the legalization of marijuanna:

http://tinyurl.com/34bt3bh

Idiots can die even faster - flush the gene pool, as it were.

33

Vic, I think J. Christian Adams has decided to do just that.

Posted by: NM Hick at September 08, 2010 09:27 AM (IzuWw)

Good, I hope she is able to get "standing".

34 I don't know about that whole dead voter thing.

They could have legit reasons to do that right?

Right?

35 After mopping up after the November tsunami, one of the top priorities of state legislatures has to be a push for photo requirement for voter identification -- gee, like a driver's license maybe. The dem canard that it creates a barrier to poor voters is absolute BS. You can't do anything in this day and age without some form of photo ID.

36 LOL, oops, I thought I saw a "she" in the article.

37 was watching beck and the commercial for this ran.

38 The dem canard that it creates a barrier to poor voters is absolute BS. You can't do anything in this day and age without some form of photo ID.

The Dems kept it tied up in court for a long time but the Supremes finally ruled that as long as States assured that it did not have a "disparate impact" it was OK.

We had a bill in the SC House to require it as soon as the court ruled but the Dems and the FDR Repubs have kept it blocked.

39 America Held Hostage:  Day 597

40 How ironic that Barry the  "Beelzebub" would warn us about pitch forks!

41 I was thinking about something on the drive to work.

I'm probably going to grow some tobacco next year.  Let's say I put in 4 acres.  If I get 2000 lbs/acre (a damn good yield) and the price is 2.00 per lb (a damn good price), after my inputs of ground prep, seed, fertilizer, herbicide, fuel for the tractor, transport to market, and several hundred hours of labor, I estimate a gross profit of about $12000.  Then I pay taxes on that.

My estimate for the government's revenue from that tobacco?  About $150,000.....

42 Isn't that a creepy website that I posted....the 4 place countdown and the date itself:  10 10 10
just plain creepy

43
I'm probably going to grow some tobacco next year.  Let's say I put in 4 acres.  If I get 2000 lbs/acre (a damn good yield) and the price is 2.00 per lb (a damn good price), after my inputs of ground prep, seed, fertilizer, herbicide, fuel for the tractor, transport to market, and several hundred hours of labor, I estimate a gross profit of about $12000.  Then I pay taxes on that.

My estimate for the government's revenue from that tobacco?  About $150,000.....

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 09:43 AM (5aa4z)

Where do you live. In Kentucky you have to have some sort of license or permit to grow tobacco. And they aren't easy to get. Think liquor license. Also, growing from seed is tough and you'll have to build your own starter house. And you'll need a tobacco barn to cure it. Do you have any experience growing tobacco?

44 42 We had a bill in the SC House to require it as soon as the court ruled but the Dems and the FDR Repubs have kept it blocked.

Posted by: Vic at September 08, 2010 09:39 AM (/jbAw)

The story is the same here in NM. We need to push for a voter photo ID requirement in all states. If FL, HI, IN, LA, MO and SD can do it, so can the remaining 44 states and DC.

45 Murkowski was actually a pretty solid Republican in the Senate and had a voting record most would consider reliably conservative, with a couple of notable exceptions.

Ed Morrissey 9/8/2010

46 My estimate for the government's revenue from that tobacco?  About $150,000.....

You're low.  Several states tax at $25.00 per pound now.  That's $200,000.00.

47 In Kentucky you have to have some sort of license or permit to grow tobacco Posted by: Ed Anger at September 08, 2010 09:48 AM (7+pP9) In the NorthEast you need a license to breath and pee

48 Pitchforks. Another tax opportunity going to waste. Another regulatory agency yet to be created.

49

"I'm probably going to grow some tobacco next year."

I'm opening a boll weevil artificial insemination lab next year.

50 "Meet Kevin Mincio, The Goldman VP Who Quit To Join The Army At Age 31"

attention moronettes.......he's adorable

51 It will make you mad as hell and one reason why the Republican House needs to call for cleaning at the DOJ from the top down.
Posted by: Vic at September 08, 2010 09:20 AM (/jbAw)

I don't need anything to provoke me into wanting the DOJ completely purged starting with Steadman Shabazz Holder.

Btw, when Orszag is about to give a briefing to reporters, does he relax by having his beard wife give him a once-over with her strap-on?

52 Oops, @49 I should have done some more homework, seems^* FL, GA, HI, ID, IN, LA, MI and SD require photo ID.

^*_{According to the National Conference of State Legislatures web site.}

53 Do you have any experience growing tobacco?

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 08, 2010 09:48 AM (7+pP9)

Only a couple decades.

You're low.  Several states tax at $25.00 per pound now.  That's $200,000.00.

I lowballed it due to stem weight.  Not all of what a farmer takes to market is actually usable.  Federal taxes alone are 24.00 a lb, and state taxes vary, so it's just an estimate.

54 Animated ad slamming Charlie Crist! Charlie-Dee and Charlie-Dum. From RightChange.org Considering the animated cat in it, maybe suitable for Caturday Night? Check it out, it's cool: http://vimeo.com/13603371

55 Murkowski was actually a pretty solid Republican in the Senate and had a voting record most would consider reliably conservative, with a couple of notable exceptions. Ed Morrissey 9/8/2010 So.. she was voted out of her job.. It shouldn't be "Her" job to begin with.. She was also well on her way to being squishy.. It's a public service that can be fickle. (Not aiming this rant to anyone in particular.. maybe Popping Fresh.) Time to do the good Republican thing and support Joe Miller, ED.

56 I've considered growing my own tobacco. And fuck any government regulations on it. I'll get around those by ignoring them. The problem is I dip snuff, or rather use smokeless tobacco, and I don't know how to process it, and can't find any instructions.

57 Yeah MI is supposed to have voter ID, but they dems put a workaround in it.  You can still vote, but your ballot goes into a "special" pile.  And by special, I mean that they take it in the back and make sure you voted for the right person and then shuffle it in with all the rest.

58

So the quote implies that:

1. there are people out to get "you"

2. and that Barry is going to "save" "you".

Riiiiight.

59 58 Do you have any experience growing tobacco?

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 08, 2010 09:48 AM (7+pP9)

Only a couple decades.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 09:53 AM (5aa4z)

I'm not a smoker, but one of best smells I remember from my childhood was the smell of tobacco curing in a barn.

60 Dammitall! I'd give my left nad for a new cat filter!

61 We passed voter ID here in Wis. a few years ago, but Doyle was able to veto it. Hopefully in Nov. we can get enough seats back to pass it again with a Repub governor and make it stick this time. At least we'll be rid of the disaster known as Jim Doyle.

62 one of best smells I remember from my childhood was the smell of tobacco curing in a barn.

WORM FIGHT!

63 Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton asserted Wednesday that the Obama administration's approach to foreign policy is beginning to pay important dividends. "We are advancing America's interests and making progress on some of our most pressing challenges," she said in remarks prepared for a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations. "Today we can say with confidence that this model of American leadership works, and that it offers our best hope in a dangerous world." (AP) She said that with a straight face?

64 PMSing umpire, Bob Davidson, throws out manager, pitching coach, player and finally a fan, he threw out a fan?  Have you ever seen an umpire throw out a fan?  Is he even permitted or allowed to do that?   link

65

Only a couple decades.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 09:53 AM (5aa4z)

It seems like most of the tobacco farmers in Kentucky hire illegal immigrants. How about where you live?

66

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 08, 2010 10:01 AM (0GFWk)

Well, you have to give that lardassed tree trunk cankles credit, she is a lying whore and will never be anything else.

67 There is nothing standing between Barry and a well sucked cock.


And there is nothing standing between me and a chance to suck Barry's cock either.

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at September 08, 2010 09:21 AM (4uhuW)

Hellllloooooooo!

68
"She said that with a straight face?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 08, 2010 10:01 AM (0GFWk)"

Monica crowley said on saturday that hillary is getting ready to run and "you heard it there first" and I sent her an email saying "no you read it on Ace of Spades HQ last week)

69 Not all of what a farmer takes to market is actually usable.

I dunno...have you seen some of the cigarettes made by Native American Tribes? It's like the leftovers from Cheech and Chong's Acapulco Gold.

70 70 She said that with a straight face?

Hey, if Barky can lie without being called on it, why can't Hildabeast?

71 In fairness, Obama's not been treated like a dog.  After all, most dogs know better than to wreck the house, bite the hands that feed it, and make a mess on the carpet.

72

So the White House, State Department, military establishment, former presidents, NYPD, Justice Deparment... and Pope... have all come out against a nothing preacher in Gainesville making a stupid gesture against Islam.

What's missing?

Nobody is condemning the people who are going to act out violently to enforce their theocratic rules on the rest of the world.    

It's not that we're going to lose our civilization which upsets me, plunging the globe into another dark age, it's the not even trying to win which is shameful.

Are the mujahideen really so scary that everyone in power has to be cowardly while pretending to take a principled stand?  You guys have 24-7 security.   

73 It seems like most of the tobacco farmers in Kentucky hire illegal immigrants. How about where you live?

SW Ohio, so the climate and soil are about the same, maybe a little better.  There are only 3 tobacco farmers around here that I know of, and they tend to do it themselves.  I don't know about the big producer, who puts in about 12-15 acres every year.  That's a hell of a lot of tobacco.

As for regulation, there might be something in KY, due to the tobacco farming heritage, but the Feds got out of the tobacco reg business years ago.  No different than growing corn, here.

74 Growing tobacco is hard back-breaking work. The problem with tobacco is that a lot of the stuff still has to be done by hand.

I don't know what its like in OH out there in the tobacco fields but it is damn hot here and full of bugs. You can't ride around in an air conditioned combine and get the job done either.

75 Have you ever seen an umpire throw out a fan?  Is he even permitted or allowed to do that?   link
Posted by: curious at September 08, 2010 10:03 AM

Eric Shabazz Holder says "yes."

There are no rules anymore. It's all "feelings."

76 And the last factory making incandescent bulbs is closing.

77
Even after electing our first black president "The Man" is busy persecuting powerful people of color:

Philadelphia's embattled housing director is suing the city agency as he fights to keep his job amid money woes and a string of sexual harassment complaints, his lawyer said.

The federal suit filed Tuesday accuses the Philadelphia Housing Authority of breaching Carl Greene's contract and violating his due process rights, lawyer Clifford Haines said.

Greene, on the job 12 years, earned $350,000 last year running the nation's fourth largest housing agency.

The Philadelphia Housing Authority board and others are investigating how four sexual harassment settlements involving Greene, totaling nearly $900,000, were kept secret for years. Women who worked for Greene said he groped them, demanded sexual favors for promotions and retaliated if they refused him.

Greene has also faced a $50,000 IRS tax lien on outside work and a foreclosure proceedings on his $615,000 townhouse this year. Both debts have since been repaid.

"A court of law is the only place I know of where allegations of the kind alluded to here can be proven — and I'm not talking about delinquent taxes or mortgage payments," lawyer Clifford Haines said Tuesday in a statement. "Those facts are a given and have no bearing on what Carl Greene did or didn't do at PHA."

Greene, 53, has been in an out-of-state medical facility for several weeks to be treated for undisclosed problems, according to Haines.

Greene, in an Aug. 23 letter to the board, said he expected to resume his duties on Sept. 13. He has two years left on his contract.

But the five board members, led by former Mayor John F. Street, voted unanimously on Aug. 26 to put him on indefinite leave while they investigate how the sexual harassment complaints — and payments — were kept secret. The board is supposed to approve any payments over $100,000.

78 Posted by: MrScribbler at September 08, 2010 10:08 AM (Ulu3i)

The funniest part of that video is the announcers saying "Gee we better watch what we say"....heck, why didn't they say "what is wrong with this guy is he nuts?"

79 55 "Meet Kevin Mincio, The Goldman VP Who Quit To Join The Army At Age 31"

I remember reading about this guy years ago.  Figured he'd do four and go back to GS.  Apparently he's stayed in for the whole eight and is not going back to Wall Street.

80 Have you ever seen an umpire throw out a fan? Is he even permitted or allowed to do that? link Posted by: curious at September 08, 2010 10:03 AM Eric Shabazz Holder says "yes." There are no rules anymore. It's all "feelings." Posted by: MrScribbler at September 08, 2010 10:08 AM (Ulu3i) Fans can be and often are ejected from stadiums. And sometimes given a good beating also if so warranted

81 The problem with tobacco is that a lot of the stuff still has to be done by hand.

I don't know what its like in OH out there in the tobacco fields but it is damn hot here and full of bugs.

Yep.  The have yet to invent machines for hoeing, suckering, cutting and spearing, hanging, or stripping.

Keeps teenagers out of trouble over the summer, though.  Indeed, it is hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock hoeing tobacco at 3 in the afternoon in July.

82 -- 85: Any relation to Alvin?  Definitely seems cut from the same cloth...

83 Speaking of those 'baccer barn smells, when I was a kid we had this old tobacco store downtown, complete with the old wooden Indian. We used to love to walk in there and take deep breaths smelling the stuff.

It was better than the memiograph paper smell on test day at school. 

84 Speaking of growing tobacky, I just learned on HGTV, though it should have been obvious, that growing a large amount of wacky tobacky in your home can cause the whole house to become mold infested. Seems all that watering and evaporation has to go someplace. Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2010 10:12 AM (m2CN7) Yeah I'm sure you learned that on HGTV? Cough cough /

85 growing a large amount of wacky tobacky in your home can cause the whole house to become mold infested.

From what I've heard, cannabis is a transpiring bitch.  Thin, long leaves like that will dry out in a heartbeat, so they would go through a shitpot full of H₂0.

86 Have you ever seen an umpire throw out a fan?  Is he even permitted or allowed to do that?

For Brewers fans, it should be mandatory.

87 My tomacco plants are coming along nicely thank you.

88

It was better than the memiograph paper smell on test day at school. 

Posted by: Vic at September 08, 2010 10:12 AM (/jbAw)

Heh -- I thought I was the only one loved the scent of freshly printed tests.

The only thing better was finding the carbon sheet for the test in the trash can.

89 No wonder Singapore is beating out Dubai for the place where WS is moving.

90 Re the Pacific Sun cruise from hell video on the sidebar, which one of you morons commented on YouTube as "ValuRite Vodka"?

91 Even Andy Griffith's favorability numbers are down after shilling for HCR.

Ahh, the warm glow of schadenfreude in the morning.

92 Have you ever seen an umpire throw out a fan? Is he even permitted or allowed to do that?

Shit, I thought he was going to throw out Trevor Hoffman.


Fans can be and often are ejected from stadiums.

By stadium personnel.  Almost never by umpires.

_{P.S. suck it, soccer.}

93 uh..... the only thing between barack and the people is pitchforks.........

94 No really I did and even If I wanted to grow the wacky, the mold would screw up my meth lab. Posted by: polynikes at September 08, 2010 10:20 AM (m2CN7) OK now that's pretty funny

95 Heh -- I thought I was the only one loved the scent of freshly printed tests.

Hell, the whole class of drug addled pre-teens at my school would huff those papers as soon as they hit the desk. Used to drive them old teachers up the wall. 

96 For Brewers fans, it should be mandatory.


Where's Radish when we need her?

97 For all those who need their Chris Christie hunger satiated, here's a clip of the Jersey Gov. giving Duh One some much needed advice. 

98

Another one from the "can you imagine the outrage if Bush did it?" file:

Commuters who ride PATCO trains between southern New Jersey and Philadelphia should expect more random searches.

Transportation Security Administration screeners checked 663 bags randomly selected from the morning rush at the Lindenwold station Tuesday.

Delaware River Port Authority Police Chief David McClintock told The Courier Post of Cherry Hill screeners were looking for improvised explosive devices and weapons.

The chief says a crack pipe was the only item confiscated.

A special Delaware River Port Authority police unit plans to conduct surprise searches at various PATCO stations.

-------

Big Sis don't need no stinkin' warrants.

99 By stadium personnel. Almost never by umpires. P.S. suck it, soccer. Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 08, 2010 10:20 AM (Vz9lf) Yes but Umps can evict fans of they so fit to

100 And Ed, think about the entire generations now who have grown up without knowing what a mimeograph machine is. 

101 #106  Where's Radish when we need her?

Radishes have never been reliable in my 'rent's garden, .

Seriously, this plan is a good start, but it's not enough:  U.S. House GOP leader proposes two-year freeze on all tax rates, cut in government spending to 2008 levels http://bit.ly/9pNtZg

102 That WV firewater like my grandma drank.

103 Hell, the whole class of drug addled pre-teens at my school would huff those papers as soon as they hit the desk. Used to drive them old teachers up the wall.

I liked the smell, but never heard of anyone actually getting high off one.

My mom used to make a mimeograph type thing for copying stuff for Cub Scouts, etc. out of a tray of Knox gelatin.

104 I liked the smell, but never heard of anyone actually getting high off one.

It didn't but everyone made out like it did.

105

"The only thing better was finding the carbon sheet for the test in the trash can."

This has Afterschool Special written all over it. How many of your classmates wound up getting stabbed?

106

MFM journalist cleverly masters sarcasm as a form of fellatio in order to pleasure ground zero mosque imam.

 

Frickin guyÂ’s an artist, IÂ’ll tell you.

107 Hi guys.  Got a question for you.

Is there any chance that the FBI, CIA are working with the FL Church holding Burn The Koran Day?  We know that those nice peaceful Muslim are going to attack us soon, we know (HOPE) that our intelligence officials are listening in, and we know that the BO Admin had severely tied their hands.  What better way to listen in to the chatter than to give them something that will piss them up.  Maybe even cause them to speed up their time line, move their target, etc.  That way you have all the worm-dicked idiots in "leadership" positions, the Pope, etc condemming the action and looking good, but at the same time you are inciting the enemy enough to hopefully mess up and reveal themselves.

Right?! Right?! Or am I giving them (our intelligence community, not the Admin) too much credit.

108 Rednecks, crackers, hillbillies, hausfraus, shut-ins, pea-pickers - everybody that's got to jump when somebody else blows the whistle. They don't know it yet, but they're all gonna be 'Fighters for Fuller'. They're mine! I own 'em! They think like I do. Only they're even more stupid than I am, so I gotta think for 'em. I'm gonna be the power behind the president!

109 Where's Radish when we need her?

Hacking up a lung and gasping for oxygen.  Fucking bronchitis.

Brewers fans are great.  The post-game call-in show was all about Hoffman last night.

*kicks nickless in the shins, hobbles back to sickbed*

110 Is there any chance that the FBI, CIA are working with the FL Church holding Burn The Koran Day?  We know that those nice peaceful Muslim are going to attack us soon

*cough* Madrid *cough*

111 Barry, I got a pitchfork for you! Ask your friends Swimmer and Sheets.

112 Posted by: Hatchet Five at September 08, 2010 10:09 AM (pyi1D)

What made the plant here vulnerable is, in part, a 2007 energy conservation measure passed by Congress that set standards essentially banning ordinary incandescents by 2014. The law will force millions of American households to switch to more efficient bulbs.

The key word here is force. Governance without consent. Incremental totalitarianism. We're losing our freedom fast, folks.

113 -- 117: Officially?  No chance in hell.

Unofficially?  You might be surprised...

114 "Smartly, he takes a conservative line. He says we can't afford the $700 billion deficit hit that would come about if we kept the tax cuts in play."  link

When I was trying to convey my conversation with my friend who had voted for BO and you guys said I was not coherent, I was trying to say that I could see them starting to label the president "conservative" and here it is.

115 The fun never stops!

http://bit.ly/bDRZ7n

I won't bother asking what's wrong with CT. I know. It's the same disease that infects well-meaning (but incredibly shortsighted and suicidal) Americans across the country.

116 Our first order of business when we take back the Congress should be "The Illumination Freedom Act of 2011".  Make a Big Fucking Deal^TM out of it to highlight just how much teh stoopid has come to rule our lives.

117 Hope you feel better soon Heather!

118 Hey, don't forget to update your football pick'em choices. There is a game tomorrow night. Posted by: CDR M at September 08, 2010 10:32 AM (5I8G0) Is there a football pick em thing here?

119 The Illuminati Freedom Act? I'm in!!

120 We're losing our freedom fast, folks.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 08, 2010 10:30 AM

Not to mention that we're being forced to buy products that require a call to the Hazmat Squad (says so right on the packages) if we break a CFL bulb....

121

Alaska Libertarian Party Chairman Scott Kolhaas said after the meeting that "I don't think it's happening."

 

We're not really sure what's happening dudes.

122

And Ed, think about the entire generations now who have grown up without knowing what a mimeograph machine is. 

Soon to be followed by kids who have never seen an incandescent light bulb...

123 Hey, don't forget to update your football pick'em choices.  There is a game tomorrow night.

Pick'em, schmick'em. Don't forget to set your AoS fantasy lineups, too.

124 -- 124:  You use that word again.  I do not think it means what you think it does.

Though to be honest I see your point.  The Left loves word games; it spreads confusion and is a primary tool they use to achieve their goals.  That's exactly what's happening here, and what I suspect your friend's problem is from what you posted earlier; and face it, the ultimate result of that sort of manipulation of language is that, to a reasonable person, the results become incoherent.  I don't even blame you for it, truth be told.

125 Don't forget to set your AoS fantasy lineups, too.

laceyunderalls
alexthechick
wherestherum
runningrn

Oh, you meant football.

126 Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 08, 2010 10:36 AM (554T5)

Slight clarification. Only if you have Vikes or Saints players drafted. That is all.

127 Posted by: MrScribbler In order to dispose of burned out CFLs (I have a few sitting around) I'm supposed to do the following: Wrap each individual bulb in newspaper, place them in a cardboard box, drive across town to a recycling center, WAIT IN MY CAR until an attendant comes out, fill out "a short form", and then hand over the box. And this can only be done on specific days of the week and at specific hours. How much energy is that process "saving" I wonder? Fucking greenbats are the stupidest people on Earth.

128 Oh, you meant football.

Heh.

129 We're losing our freedom fast, folks.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 08, 2010 10:30 AM

Not to mention that we're being forced to buy products that require a call to the Hazmat Squad (says so right on the packages) if we break a CFL bulb....

Posted by: MrScribbler

 

Don't long flourescent tubes Have the same issue? Why haven;t we heard this furor before now? Or perhaps I shouldn''t be giving these genuises ideas?

130 WAIT IN MY CAR until an attendant comes out, fill out "a short form", and then hand over the box.

This will probably be a plum assignment in the reeducation camps.

131 #125  I won't bother asking what's wrong with CT. I know. It's the same disease that infects well-meaning (but incredibly shortsighted and suicidal) Americans across the country.

So where are the groups protesting this on the grounds of separation of church and state?  *crickets chirping*

"One of the goals of the Council is to give a voice to the many diverse peoples of the City, which is especially important given the recent anti-Islam events throughout the country."

So the Islamists are going to allow infidels to visit Mecca and Medina in turn, right, to reciprocate the gesture?

/Dream on.

132 Hacking up a lung and gasping for oxygen.  Fucking bronchitis.

Radish, bloody mary regimen, with or without Val-U-Rite. You will want to keep hydrated, so without vodka is better.

BEST BLOODY MARY MIX

1 qt can Sacramento tomato juice
1 lemon juiced
2 tsp tobasco*
2 tsp horseradish
1 tsp Old Bay seasoning
1 tsp fresh ground black pepper
1 tbsp Worcestershire sauce
2 tbsp clam juice
1 shot vodka per serving over ice

(Red Devil has cayenne, a natural expectorant. The antioxidants in peppers support the lungs, while the capsicum thins mucus, allowing you to expel it more easily.)*

While it may sound odd, vegetable oil is one of the most effective natural bronchitis treatments available. By massaging vegetable oil into the back and chest, you can assist in breaking up congestion in the lungs.

It is also advised to have 3-4 cups of rosehip and lemon tea daily. Increase your Vitamin A and C intake. Chamomile tea also improves your immunity to viral infections. Finally, eucalyptus leaf opens the lungs and encourages breathing by increasing oxygen in the cells. Use the organic leaf in teas or in steam inhalation.

Feel better!

133
Ok so wait- Daley is not seeking reelection, someone in the admin has to take a fall for the disastrous mid-terms, and The Little Ballerina is the perfect fit so it all works.  Is that the fiction these mutts are building?  Holy cats, how much corruption are we going to put up with?

134 CBS Sports week 1 projections look a lot better.

Week 1 is always a total crapshoot. I guess the best strategy is to start your top guys drafted and hope for the best.

135 Hey Kratos...check out post #64. I think the bots are aiming at you.

136 In order to dispose of burned out CFLs (I have a few sitting around) I'm supposed to do the following:
Wrap each individual bulb in newspaper, place them in a cardboard box, drive across town to a recycling center, WAIT IN MY CAR until an attendant comes out, fill out "a short form", and then hand over the box  I line them up against the hill and sight in my pistol.

137

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 08, 2010 10:45 AM (mHQ7T)

Without bitters, it's not a Bloody Mary.

138 I line them up against the hill and sight in my pistol.

Good suggestion. 

139

84 Hatchet Five

I clicked over to the Washington Post story at the link, about the last GE incandescent light bulb factory closing down.  That just burns me to no end, the hypocrisy of Obama/democrats/environmentalists/nanny-state buttinskys, but I repeat myself.

So in 2007 (as soon as the democrats took over the US Congress!) legislation was passed BANNING regular light bulbs by 2014.  Those slimy toads knew full well that all alternative bulbs were being made in China and would always be made in China, due to the large amount of hand labor that goes into compact flourescent bulb-making.

But they went ahead and did it anyway, and now the democrats/Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid/Obama act all surprised that these plants are closing, jobs are being shipped to China, and the factory workers, many in their 40's and 50's, will never get replacement jobs that come anywhere near the wages they are about to lose.

Somebody please explain a couple of things to me, I'm confused:

1) Why does America's elite continue to destroy the jobs of America's working class? and

2) Why does America's elite continue to actively import more illegal aliens who have no job skills, and who are looking to take over those factory jobs that the elite have shipped overseas?

 

140

Don't long flourescent tubes Have the same issue? Why haven;t we heard this furor before now? Or perhaps I shouldn''t be giving these genuises ideas?

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 08, 2010 10:42 AM (R2fpr)

They do. Here's a page showing the seven easy steps Michigan State University uses to dispose of them.

141

I line them up against the hill and sight in my pistol.

Although you may not want to grow tobacco on that land...

142 Not too much out there in Free Agent land.

Our waiver wire is like the Atacama Desert.

143 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 10:49 AM

When I have bronchitis, I find that wasabi gets the system cleared out in pretty short order.

Haven't tried mixing it with Valu-Rite yet, so there are always new worlds to conquer!

144 CFL bulbs do NOT have to be disposed of as hazardous waste. When that thing about the woman who has a haz-mat team come in to clean up a broken bulb I went to the EPA site and checked.  That was an urban myth.

They said that these bulbs can be disposed of in normal trash just like any other bulb. They also said there is no special cleanup required if you break one other than routine precautions you should be making anyway like don't breath the dust or step on the broken glass barefooted.

They further said that the amount of Hg in the bulbs was infinitesimal and not of concern.

So if your local dump is requiring all kinds of special handling they are doing it because they are stupid. So what to do?

If you are driving over, waiting, filling out forms, and had delivering CFLs you are being teh stupid. Use the waste disposal form of SSS (shoot, shovel, and shutup). Mix them in with kitchen garbage and throw them away.

145 152 Hey Kratos...check out post #64. I think the bots are aiming at you.

Temple of Shadows...Gargoyles?  The bots don't know me very well then.

146 Oh, and lest I forget, shana tova umetukah for all our observing morons!

147 OK Fox News just jumped the shark

148 Our waiver wire is like the Atacama Desert.

My fav map!

149 Are illegal aliens with fraudulent numbers entitled to SS benefits? Oh yea, but only if they leave our country once they qualify. That way we can send our money to another country.

Fuck.

At Zero Hedge.

150 I'm the only thing between you and the pitchforks... because I'm giving all the pitchfork-ready jobs to the SEIU.

151
Without bitters a stalk of celery, it's not a Bloody Mary.

FIFY

152 -- 158:  No direct impact to them.  They don't care.

-- 160:  Have you seen what makes its way into cigarettes?  He's just a step ahead of the process...

153 #168  Heh!  I guess improvements will be done pretty much through trades.  Ought to be interesting.

That's what I thought.

btw, somebody's trying to trade me Big "The Rapist" Ben for Jamaal Charles in my other FF league.  Sounds like a disadvantage to me, your thoughts?

154

I line them up against the hill and sight in my pistol.

Although you may not want to grow tobacco on that land...

The whole mercury thing is bullshit.  Everybody over 30 rolled pure mercury around in their hand as a kid in science class.  Even 18th and 19th century haberdashers that breathed and ate the shit daily only went insane at a low rate.

Similar to the asbestos scare.  We used to cut asbestos shingles with a power saw and it produced amazing amounts of fine, breathable dust.  I'm still here.

155


One step closer to immortality! No voters died and were removed from the voting lists in 5 states 2006-2008.

It will make you mad as hell and one reason why the Republican House needs to call for cleaning at the DOJ from the top down.



That's not a new problem.  They didn't investigate it during the Bush years, either.

It's the Civil Rights Division.  An utter farce of a sick joke.



Oh, and Herr M, don't be shooting them bulbs.  It ain't the lead, but the mercury, and that shit travels. 

156

The bots don't know me very well then.

But they're learning...

157

elemental mercury is very low in toxicity.  What's in the bulb's isn't elemental mercury.

158 Don't long flourescent tubes Have the same issue? Why haven;t we heard this furor before now? Or perhaps I shouldn''t be giving these genuises ideas? I believe the do.. and they also make great light sabers for a short period of time.

159 @ HeatherRadish

One more thing... eat radishes. They're good for you, along with watercress, raw spinach and celery. Also, cranberries contain one of nature's most potent vasodilators, which open up congested bronchial tubes so that normal breathing is restored; cranberries are excellent curative and preventive therapy for the entire breathing apparatus. Asthmatics will likewise benefit from real, undiluted cranberry juice, which is a little more expensive, but so worth it.

160 That's not a new problem.  They didn't investigate it during the Bush years, either.

Not true according to that article.

161 What's in the bulb's isn't elemental mercury.

Posted by: hobgoblin at September 08, 2010 10:59 AM (qpjtv)

You know what it is?  Honestly, I don't think it matters.  There's so little of the shit in there.

162

1) Why does America's elite continue to destroy the jobs of America's working class? and

2) Why does America's elite continue to actively import more illegal aliens who have no job skills, and who are looking to take over those factory jobs that the elite have shipped overseas?

Proles with too much disposable income can get unruly.

Keep em emiserated and docile.

163 What's in the bulb's isn't elemental mercury.

Posted by: hobgoblin at September 08, 2010 10:59 AM (qpjtv)

You know what it is?  Honestly, I don't think it matters.  There's so little of the shit in there.

He obviously didn't read my post about the EPA.

164

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 10:07 AM (5aa4z)

It would be easier just to figure out a way for the gubmint to pay you not to grow it....like threaten to in MD where subsidies are paid out

If the likes of dickheads like David Letterman, Sam Donaldson, Ted Turner get farm subsidies despite living in NYC...dammit, so should you

165 And in other news, I got two Republican primary calls last night. Lotsa noise for a little state (Delaware).

166 If the likes of dickheads like David Letterman, Sam Donaldson, Ted Turner get farm subsidies despite living in NYC...dammit, so should you

Unlike Letterman, Donaldson, and Turner, I actually have shame.

167

"Everybody over 30 rolled pure mercury around in their hand as a kid in science class."

I didn't think they did that post-'60s.  I was always astonished by my parents stories of doing that in the 40s/50s. 

168
While Yahoo News pimps Obama+Hillary in their subtle and not so subtle positive democrat/ negative republican coverage.  all. the. time.

Peter Beinart, a "principled liberal" says "Obama's foreign policy has failed."

169 #174  The whole mercury thing is bullshit.  Everybody over 30 rolled pure mercury around in their hand as a kid in science class.  Even 18th and 19th century haberdashers that breathed and ate the shit daily only went insane at a low rate.

Those wasn't the methyl and the dimethylmercury forms, were they?

Back in the day, students handled formaldehyde without gloves during anatomy class and such and they turned out (mostly) fine too

170

no, herr, "elemental" meaning pure, what's in CFLs is somethinglike mercury hexaflouride.

Elemental mercury doesn't react.  Other mercury forms are quite reactive.

171 When I have bronchitis, I find that wasabi gets the system cleared out in pretty short order.

Yes, because it's horseradish. The potent ethers in fresh grated horseradish dissolve mucus in the sinuses and bronchial tubes quickly and effectively; mixing it with fresh lemon juice doubles its efficacy. (From the Tao of Sex, Health and Longevity by Daniel Reid) Seriously, fresh bloody mary mix has everything your body needs when you've got a respiratory infection. Vitamin C in the tomato juice, celery garnish (along with radish) alkalizes bloodstream and respiratory tract; accelerates detoxification, restores natural immunity, etc.

172 And in other news, I got two Republican primary calls last night. Lotsa noise for a little state (Delaware).

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 08, 2010 11:03 AM (R2fpr)

The Dems would love to run against O'Donnell.

173 176 Kratos, you don't have any pets do you?  If you do and when you get Starcraft II, don't become this guy!

lol, luckily I don't plan on getting pets after I move out of my parent's house...after they die, . 

My starting QB in this other league is Aaron Rodgers, while my backup QB is Mark Sanchez. 

Yeah, he's not that good, but I wouldn't trade away Charles.  Just thought there was some sort of catch with Charles that I didn't know about yet.

174

Check out this map of people living in NYC who get farm subsidies

...the red blobs are those getting more than $250k annually

 

175 And in other news, I got two Republican primary calls last night. Lotsa noise for a little state (Delaware).

Posted by: Blue Hen at September 08, 2010 11:03 AM (R2fpr)

The Dems would love to run against O'Donnell.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane

 

As would I, IYKWIMAITTYD.

176 I clicked over to the Washington Post story at the link, about the last GE incandescent light bulb factory closing down. 

So, I guess the slogan is no longer "We bring good things to light." Heh.

177

National Review has a good article up on the actual stakes in the Quran-becue. 

Quote:   

...Since Feb. 14, 1989, when Iranian Ayatollah Khomeini pronounced Salman Rushdie a blasphemer and ordered his murder, the OIC lobbied Western governments to repress ridicule and critique of Islam, and dissent within Islam, in ways analogous to the repression already existing in many of its own countries. For example, in the United Nations, the OIC has for over a decade successfully sponsored annual resolutions calling for the creation of an international crime against “defamation” of Islam. This demand that Western governments use state power to coerce compliance by their own citizens with Islamic blasphemy strictures is therefore relatively new.

The campaign has already made significant inroads through lawsuits, diplomacy, economic boycotts, and, at times, lethal force and intimidation — all of which are contributing to a broad chilling effect on speech concerning Islam. Western Europe, Canada, and Australia have reacted to this demand largely ad hoc; they are beginning to deploy racial and religious hate-speech bans to serve as proxies for Muslim blasphemy laws...  (end quote)

But this time theocracy is advancing under the banner of "tolerance" and "religious freedom." So that's different.  

178 Unemployment, then and now.

*looks for Tabasco*

179 Big news from the People's Republic of Massachusetts: The Boston Globe endorsed Jim McKenna for Attorney General in the Republican primary. McKenna is a write in candidate who will need 10,000 write-in votes to get on the November ballot to oppose Martha Coakley. You all remember "Marsha", don't you? She lost to Scott Brown, and is the incumbent AG running for re-election. This is also not the first Republican the Globe has endorsed for this primary. Crazy world.

180 As bad as Carter was as President, and boy was he bad, at least Carter could hammer a nail.  Obama cant't even operate an umbrella.

181 While Yahoo News pimps Obama+Hillary in their subtle and not so subtle positive democrat/ negative republican coverage.  all. the. time.

Peter Beinart, a "principled liberal" says "Obama's foreign policy has failed."

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 08, 2010 11:06 AM (0fzsA)

Yahoo "news" is an absolute joke. And their political "reporters" not only are horribly bad writers but are about as non-biased as the Daily Kos.

182 Anybody else smell a rat with Chicago mayor Daley retiring right when Emmanuel is ready to get out of the White House?

183 Anybody else smell a rat with Chicago mayor Daley retiring right when Emmanuel is ready to get out of the White House?

Posted by: Truman North

 

Nope. Smells like Chicago as usual.

184

ed

i have an easier way to dispose of the used flouresants and batteries.......it's called the trash can........or rather...the neighbors trash can......

185 Back in the day, students handled formaldehyde without gloves during anatomy class and such and they turned out (mostly) fine too

Hell, Boones Farm wine had formaldehyde in it, and I turned out fine.

Oh, wait...

186 Is there nothing those lame duck Dem fuckers won't do?

187 no, herr, "elemental" meaning pure, what's in CFLs is somethinglike mercury hexaflouride.

Eh.  I pour old motor oil around the garage to kill the weeds too.  And old hydraulic fluid is the shit for that.

I know that's some nasty stuff, but how much is actually in there?  We all handle all sorts of caustic, toxic, deadly shit all the time, unless we just spend our lives playing GoW.

188 Vic, I like your style.

189

210 Anybody else smell a rat with Chicago mayor Daley retiring right when Emmanuel is ready to get out of the White House?

Posted by: Truman North at September 08, 2010 11:16 AM (HLGCA)

I smell a rotting fish.

190 I just called my rep, Jim McGovern (D-MA 3) and asked him to vote no on the president's new stimulus thing.  The person who asnwered the phone was clearly more professional than the regular schmucks he has in that office.  I wonder why?  He's allegedly in a safe district.

191 Hell, Boones Farm wine had formaldehyde in it, and I turned out fine.

Drink a twelver of Natural Light and tell me how you feel the next morning.  That's not alcohol intoxication, it's formaldehyde poisoning.

192 I used to take apart old thermostats and break open the little ampule from the mercury switch.  Kept me entertained for weeks at a time.  I was always surprised at how dense it was.

193
Obama's latest Ponzi scheme. 
Obama gets to target the nations winners and losers.  He won.

194

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2010 11:14 AM (sOtz/)

I saw Bloomberg doing the two-step this morning when asked about the Koran -a -Que.

He said that they had the right to do it...but they SHOULD NOT because some people *Muzzies* cough *Muzzies* might find it offensive

195 LOL, the EPA now says "check local requirements" for disposal of CFLs.

196
Eh. I pour old motor oil around the garage to kill the weeds too.

It's also great for getting rid of whistle pigs. They hate it on their fur. You only need to pour about a cup of it in each burrow entrance.

197 Whitman 48
Moonbeam 45

http://tinyurl.com/2v2mkkn

198 Jesus, Los Angeles is on fire over cops shooting a crimmigrant who was threatening cops and bystanders with a knife.

199 Slow thread day? 

200
Payroll tax freeze?  Obama and his clown posse say - NO WAY!

"Senior administration officials said the three proposals would be the full extent of new economic policies the president would announce before the midterms, eliminating the possibility of a pre-election freeze on payroll taxes, an idea supported by many businesses."

But Obama and his clown posse have a better idea.  Infrastructure spending and tax credits for certain businesses; but not everyone.  So, you know, screw you.

201
It's also great for getting rid of whistle pigs. They hate it on their fur. You only need to pour about a cup of it in each burrow entrance.

Did not know that.  I always gave them a lead enema.  There's one undercutting a tree at our church that I can't shoot because of the neighborhood.  May give that a try.

202 Vic, I like your style.

Posted by: jewells at September 08, 2010 11:20 AM (l/N7H)

LOL, you mean "old fart"

203

"Everybody over 30 rolled pure mercury around in their hand as a kid in science class."

I didn't think they did that post-'60s.


Must have 1990-ish when I played with mercury in HS chem class.  But my teacher taught HS chem to God, so he may have missed an NEA directive somewhere.

204 The County website (The county runs our recycling/trash/yard waste program) has a "helpful" link for those who think the recycling process for CFL's is too onerous. Here's the gist, they link to a "Green from home" site run by Waste Mgmt which offers to sell you... "... mail-in recycling kits for CFLs, batteries and (soon) small electronics such as cell phones and MP3 players. The website explains step-by-step how to recycle CFLs, and will even provide you with a confirmation of recycling via e-mail.� Each CFL Recycling Kit is priced at $14.95, and can hold up to 15 CFLs." www.thinkgreenfromhome.com or 866-699-6466. " Add another pile of money to the billions that have been siphoned off of this global green scam.

205

They are begining to believe there are no safe districts. Remember, Scott Brown won Bawney Franks district.

Brown won McGovern's district, too, by double digits.  His main challenger (primary on 9/14) has had his home vandalized three times in two weeks. 

206 I just called my rep, Jim McGovern (D-MA 3) and asked him to vote no on the president's new stimulus thing. The person who asnwered the phone was clearly more professional than the regular schmucks he has in that office. I wonder why? He's allegedly in a safe district. Truman, who do you like in the Republican primary? You have five candidates, don't you?

207

223  I used to take apart old thermostats and break open the little ampule from the mercury switch.

When I was a kid I accidentally dropped & broke a mercury thermometer, the kind you used to stick under your tongue to check for a fever.  Back in the day, they had real mercury in them.  I was frantic trying to clean it up off the wood floor before mom came in and caught me, but it was fascinating rolling the mercury around, blobbing it together, smashing it apart, good times.  I couldn't get it up off the floor so I finally pushed the little silver blobs into the cracks between the floorboards. 

208

disposal of CFLs.

They can get rid of the NHLs and the NBAs, too for all I care

209 Judiciary Committee Members are to convene to regulate guns in commerce.

September 7, 2010
NOTICE OF COMMITTEE HEARING
The Senate Committee on the Judiciary has scheduled a hearing entitled "Firearms in Commerce: Assessing the Need for Reform in the Federal Regulatory Process" for Tuesday, September 14, 2010 at 10:00 a.m. in Room 226 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building.
By order of the Chairman.

210 How come the muslim world never riots when a woman gets her nose cut off or face burned off by extremists, but go crazy when a book is burned or cartoon is published? LOL I would not be burning anything, not the type of guy I am. If it hurts our troops, obviously do not do it though I have a feeling our strict ROE puts our troops in way more danger than this.

211 I just wished the Mayor cared abouyt rebuilding the towers and St. Nicholas Orthodox Church as muich as he does building the Ground Zero Mosque.

http://tinyurl.com/3ynjslf

212 Ya gotta love this shit:

Michelle Obama hosts dance event

In the end, it was a wonder the three massive chandeliers gracing the White House East Room remained intact, given the high-voltage expenditure of human energy taking place beneath them.

I read this right after reading about a young Marine LCpl. returning home in a box to Griffin, GA, and bawling my eyes out.

213

239 Heh, Tim Tebow is forecast to get a running TD on the CBS Fantasy forecaster!

For a superstar quarterback, he's going to make one hell of an average H-back

214

I would not be burning anything, not the type of guy I am. If it hurts our troops, obviously do not do it though I have a feeling our strict ROE puts our troops in way more danger than this.

I'm not a burnin' stuff kind of guy either, but this pastor is pissing off all the right people as far as I'm concerned.  He must know something I don't.

215 Avatar or not, I don't want the radiation.

216 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 08, 2010 11:08 AM

Dang! I thought it was the sickly green color that gave wasabi its punch!

Sorta like horseradish phlegm, IYKWIMAITYD.

217 Can someone help me out?  My son wants the picture of the the kitten on its back with beer bottle and I can find it in the archives. Does anyone remember which thread it was?  Thank you.

218 next environmental protest, im gonna hire a bunch of illegals to smash a couple of boxes of cfl's on the ground. The hazmat suits make for good tv.

219 230 Jesus, Los Angeles is on fire over cops shooting a crimmigrant who was threatening cops and bystanders with a knife.

Saw that story last night.  Dear Lord...  no wonder LA made the list (#2 IIRC) of the 10 Worst Cities to Live In. This was some Yahoo list I saw yesterday, but for the life of me, I cannot find it again.  Believable though, no?

220   I couldn't get it up off the floor so I finally pushed the little silver blobs into the cracks between the floorboards.

Exact.  Same.  Thing. 

221 Brown won McGovern's district, too, by double digits.  His main challenger (primary on 9/14) has had his home vandalized three times in two weeks.

Funny how we're not hearing anything about that.  Jon Golnik, a challenger for Nikki Tsongas, also had his headquarters burn down.  Oddly that story just disappeared down the memory hole.

222 In the end, it was a wonder the three massive chandeliers gracing the White House East Room remained intact

Were they swinging from them?

_{And yes.  I denounce myself.}

223 ... mail-in recycling kits for CFLs


Interesting.  Last time I went to the post office, there were posters up about how hazardous and toxic substances were forbidden to be mailed.

224

beedubya,

It's just too much effort to protect speech when it's annoying or offensive to really violent people.  If a lefty were burning American flags that would be completely different and very important speech.  Protecting that would be part of our sacred honor and fundamental values, yadda, yadda.  

(And patriots don't make backpack nail bombs.)    

225 Mrs. is going to be coming home in a few minutes.  I'll see you reprobates in a couple of hours when I go to school.

226 Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 08, 2010 11:30 AM

I put the link in a thread yesterday, Jane.

Aside from the absolute indecency of Osama Obama and Moo-chelle partying heartily while the world is going to shit, did you notice a certain -- shall we say -- similarity between the dance groups that are going to be prancing around the White House on our dime?

Hint: they don't look like any of those guys on paper money....

227 Posted by: Dan

After Petraeus' request, this protest of radical Islam frames participants for DHS targets.

Mob mentality is harder to rev up with a private burning.

And without the MFM, there'd have been no publicity to fuel the radicals.

228

wtf, the feds are opening a halfway house for the severely mentally ill about a mile from my house

in a residental neighborhood, about three blocks from a grade school

229 260 Mrs. is going to be coming home in a few minutes.  I'll see you reprobates in a couple of hours when I go to school.

And En Taro Tassadar to you too...

/I love listening to SC vids in the background while I'm running gels.  The lab is deserted today...

230 Just do a Bing Image search for drunk kitty and you will get lots of drunk cat pictures.

231 Posted by: HeatherRadish Heh. Sounds just like the Government. Obeying one law obligates you to break another. That way they can drop the hammer whenever they want to.

232 MrScribbler, it's like I said a while back, every time these mutts go on vacay, the WH staff probably takes the entire time they're away to patch the holes in the walls, deal with carpet stains, sweep up the broken vases and glassware, etc. 

Barky probably had to redecorate the Oval because of cigarette burns in the carpet and upholstery. 

I'm so, so sick of these bastards.

233 After Petraeus' request, this protest of radical Islam frames participants for DHS targets.

I admire Petraeus, but honestly, he should've kept his fucking mouth shut.  This is not his bailiwick, and he is subordinate to the civilian population.  He is in no position to comment on this.

234 Hint: they don't look like any of those guys on paper money....

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 08, 2010 11:36 AM (Ulu3i)

The days of having groups like the Ray Conniff singers at the WH ended a long time ago.

235 After Petraeus' request, this protest of radical Islam frames participants for DHS targets.

I admire Petraeus, but honestly, he should've kept his fucking mouth shut.  This is not his bailiwick, and he is subordinate to the civilian population.  He is in no position to comment on this.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

 

It's time for another report about the rampaging Lutherans from the upper Midwest, as only Iowahawk can chronicle.

236 Funny how we're not hearing anything about that. Jon Golnik, a challenger for Nikki Tsongas, also had his headquarters burn down. Oddly that story just disappeared down the memory hole. Not really. There is an open investigation. Golnik is a dick. Yes, I am volunteering for Sam Meas, Reagan Republican.

237 I admire Petraeus, but honestly, he should've kept his fucking mouth shut. This is not his bailiwick, and he is subordinate to the civilian population. He is in no position to comment on this. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 11:39 AM (5aa4z) Gotta disagree with you on that one. He really did not express any opinion about burning korans. His only opinion was whether it would effect his mission and the troops under him. And that he has a right to comment on. He actually has a duty to.

238 Jane D'oh at September 08, 2010 11:30 AM

The Obamas dance as troops suffer.

The worst public form from a potus:

THE AUDACITY OF ANTIPATHY

239

268  didn't the guy he replaced get fired for opening his mouth to the press?

this is why nco's run our miltary and officers should be boiled in tar...except for cdr m, we like him

240 Obeying one law obligates you to break another. That way they can drop the hammer whenever they want to.

When everyone's a criminal, the population is easier to control. 

I forget where I read that.

241

i don't know how many mercury thermometers i broke in my mouth......that would freak my mom out...

 

 

242 ............has anyone heard from michael steele?

243 this is why nco's run our miltary and officers should be boiled in tar...except for cdr m, we like him Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 11:42 AM (gg4j2) What am I chopped liver?

244 Gotta disagree with you on that one. He really did not express any opinion about burning korans. His only opinion was whether it would effect his mission and the troops under him. And that he has a right to comment on. He actually has a duty to.

If he went to the Sec Def and put a bee in his ear saying "Can something be done about these dipshits?  They could seriously fuck me up", that would be one thing.

Public commentary is very different indeed, IMO.

245 Blackfive has the link to the Marine coming home to Georgia.  The picture of the parents and sister grieving over his casket at the airport made me cry like a baby.  The description of the traffic on I-75 coming to a halt for their trip out of Atlanta to Griffin was amazing. 

Obama is going to go down in history as the worst CiC ever.   The man has no empathy whatsoever.  I despise him, and it kills me our only child serves under him.

246 #278 
What am I chopped liver?

Ah, don't mind ncj.  He's just sore that he has an entire FB season in front of him watching his beloved Bears fail to make even the playoffs.

247 "a halfway house for the severely mentally ill"

Severe mental illness...
the violent, criminally insane?
the mentally retarded?
or a PC "fair" combination?

248

278  you were an officer?

hmmmmm, it depends on just how much do you admire and give the proper respect to the true greatness known as a CPO?

249

Here's some info on the planned Reagan biopic:

Mark Joseph, who optioned the books four years ago, is co-producing with Ralph Winter and Jonas McCord wrote the script.

McCord, whose credits include "Malice" and "The Body," said he wasn't a fan of Reagan but was drawn to the project as he researched the former president's upbringing.

"I was of the opinion that at best he was a bad actor and at worst a clown," McCord said.

I don't wish ill on anyone but I wish that Hollywood would just disappear one day and take most of its inhabitants with it. Perhaps a black hole could swallow it

250 Not really. There is an open investigation.

Yes, but we're not hearing much about it.  If it had been Nikki Tsongas' headquarters it would be front page news nationally.

Golnik is a dick. Yes, I am volunteering for Sam Meas, Reagan Republican.

Golnik does seem like a dick.  I was reading that when he was asked if he was a Scott Brown Republican, he shot back he was a Jon Golnik Republican.  Seems full of himself.

Sam Meas seems like a solid conservative.  I like him.

251 Gotta disagree with you on that one. He really did not express any opinion about burning korans. His only opinion was whether it would effect his mission and the troops under him. And that he has a right to comment on. He actually has a duty to.

Posted by: nevergiveup

There are many things that would affect his mission. Some of the worst 'peace' protests definitely affected the mission. Newsweek lying about Korans being flushed resulted in riots. The AP choosing to ramp up coverage of contractors being tortured, murderd and their bodies being defiled in broad daylight affected the mission.

 

Please note that none of the Bold and the Beautiful spoke out against any of these. Also, try applying the "what if Dick Cheney or George W Bush had said this?"

252 Public commentary is very different indeed, IMO. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 11:45 AM (5aa4z) He wasn't criticizing the chain of command. Just making a comment about how this act could impacted his mission. Perfectly reasonable to me. Now was his comments perhaps giving more publicity to this stunt than if he had said nothing in public- maybe.

253

282  Ah, don't mind ncj.  He's just sore that he has an entire FB season in front of him watching his beloved Bears fail to make even the playoffs.

says the soon to be army officer.........i will have you and your BoO on my roof soon buddy, enjoy the tar

254 has anyone heard from michael steele? Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 08, 2010 11:43 AM

What up, girl?

255 you were an officer? hmmmmm, it depends on just how much do you admire and give the proper respect to the true greatness known as a CPO? Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 11:47 AM (gg4j2) I AM an Officer.LCDR Dental Corps. And since most of the enlisted in my unit are corpsman, I think they are the best of best, no matter what their rank.

256 If he went to the Sec Def and put a bee in his ear saying "Can something be done about these dipshits?  They could seriously fuck me up", that would be one thing.

I really prefer these things be discussed in the light of day rather than have some Fed agency or pol pressuring individual citizens or groups "quietly." 

It's clear I'm in the minority view on this -- I think the Koran burning is an extremely stupid act and am inclined to believe Gen. P. when he says it increases risks to our troops.  It's frustrating and a bit troubling to me to see the majority's reaction, but it is informative to me to read everyone's views about this. 

257 ;">There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

Ayn Rand

It's like she was a fortune teller.

258 I referenced DHS salivating at the opportunity to prosecute "radical" conservatives.

I admire Petraeus, but honestly, he should've kept his fucking mouth shut.  

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

nevergiveup @ 11:42 put it as I took Petraeus'  reaction.  If he'd been stationed stateside with the National Guard, I'd agree with Herr Morgenholz.

259

283  from the article

The executive director and CEO of Mental Health Kokua, was one of the featured speakers.  Greg Payton told the crowd patients who move into the group home later this month will be supervised eight to sixteen hours per day, seven days a week.  Someone from the non-profit would also be on-call 24 hours a day.

"The idea that somehow the people we are serving are dangerous or commit crimes those are not the people that we are serving at all," he said.

Payton acknowledged patients living in the home would likely suffer from a variety of mental illnesses, including schizophrenia, depression and bi-polar disorder but that didn't mean the community would be less safe.  He said violent offenders are never allowed in homes run by his organization.

"We in fact have a screening process that none of those folks would be allowed in our home.  Those folks with those kinds of issues would be in other kinds of places but not in our housing projects."

260 It's clear I'm in the minority view on this -- I think the Koran burning is an extremely stupid act and am inclined to believe Gen. P. when he says it increases risks to our troops. It's frustrating and a bit troubling to me to see the majority's reaction, but it is informative to me to read everyone's views about this. Posted by: Y-not at September 08, 2010 11:51 AM (osFsP) Hey I'm with you. It is legal , but i think Book Burning is very UN- American and a real stupid act that serves no purpose except to rile up the assholes muslims.

261 One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.

Ayn Rand

It's like she was a fortune teller.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 08, 2010 11:51 AM (9QDNr)

Indeed.  If it were up to me, the legislature could make no new laws without first repealing old ones in equal number.  Heaven knows there are plenty we don't need.

262 Ayn Rand

It's like she was a fortune teller.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack

Although it all applies, our era isn't the first to experience that ill fortune that dominated her writing.

263 Posted by: nevergiveup at September 08, 2010 11:48 AM (0GFWk)

I know what you're saying, but I am extremely uncomfortable with a military commander making disapproving remarks about the manner of free speech used by American citizens.

264 My next congressman, God willing:  Marty Lamb

265

291  oh, you are good to go then

no tar and i will buy you the first round

all the other.....hello tar

266 CDR M at September 08, 2010 11:34 AM (5I8G0)

Thank you.

267 I know what you're saying, but I am extremely uncomfortable with a military commander making disapproving remarks about the manner of free speech used by American citizens. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 11:54 AM (5aa4z) But that really was NOT what he was doing. He made no comment as to the legality of burning korans at all. Just that it would cause him, his mission, and the troops under him a problem.

268 Hey I'm with you. It is legal , but i think Book Burning is very UN- American and a real stupid act that serves no purpose except to rile up the assholes muslims.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 08, 2010 11:54 AM (0GFWk)

I say that's a legitimate purpose in and of itself.  The day of reconning is coming - better we fight it out now, with numbers on our side, rather than wait to be overwhelmed.

269

301  true that

except even they have enough self respect not to sell cookbooks

270 eight to sixteen hours per day, seven days a week.

Hey, that's only 102 to 56 hours a week they can wander outside unnoticed. Don't know why the neighbors are freaked out.  /

271 I say that's a legitimate purpose in and of itself. The day of reconning is coming - better we fight it out now, with numbers on our side, rather than wait to be overwhelmed. Posted by: Reactionary at September 08, 2010 11:56 AM (xUM1Q) How we are fighting this War is a whole other argument. And personally I am not happy with what's going on now. HOWEVER given that this is the mission the Civilian Leadership has given us, my only concern is the safety of the Men and Women in Theater.

272

if the muslims get frisky over the burnings we can just challenge them to play volleyball

to quote maxwell the piggy "Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee whee whee Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!!"

273 It's clear I'm in the minority view on this -- I think the Koran burning is an extremely stupid act and am inclined to believe Gen. P. when he says it increases risks to our troops.

You're not in the minority.  It IS an extremely stupid act, and Gen. Petraeus IS correct that it may well increase the risks to our forces.

That has nothing to do with maintaining a proper demeanor as a military commander.  Yes, as CDR M said, they have become political animals.  They always have been.  But they should not be commenting on matters which are at their essences within the civilian realm, and especially not as those relate to possibly abridging the Constitutional rights of the citizenry.  Dangerous line to cross, so don't even go near the line.

274 Hey I'm with you. It is legal , but i think Book Burning is very UN- American and a real stupid act that serves no purpose except to rile up the assholes muslims. Posted by: nevergiveup

Exactly.

That the book burners had to publicize it is the public's annoyance, dragging all of America into their bonfire.

Americans are riled with "moderate" Muslims for refusing to make it their rule as the "majority" in America to out to federal authorities. the radicals from within their communities.  But then, for all we know, they have only to find that Obama's feds have turned the tables on the "moderates" of all religious persuasions.

Publicizing outrage at the outrageous seems the reasonable thing to do, all things considered.

275 Sam Meas seems like a solid conservative. I like him. Rock solid. Pro-family, free market, 2nd Amendment, national defense. Strong advocate for liberty. He has seen socialism at it's worst (Cambodia), so he is big on personal freedom.

276 especially not as those relate to possibly abridging the Constitutional rights of the citizenry. Dangerous line to cross, so don't even go near the line. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 12:00 PM (5aa4z) He never ventured anywhere near that.

277

308  plus they have a guy on call 24/7

dude on call:  hello

me: um, one of your bi-polar guys is like setting fire to my car

doc: oh, um, i'll be there in an hour, just hold on

me:  that's okay, my wife has the shotgun out already

278 He never ventured anywhere near that.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 08, 2010 12:02 PM (0GFWk)

Are you saying that his conscious decision to air his concerns was anything other than an attempt to chill their planned use of their free speech rights?

279 oh no, sock FAIL!

280 Hey I'm with you.

Yeah, I saw that and I feel good to see that an active-duty military officer shares my view.  I'm not looking to feel more "right," but I'm not military so I always try to figure out if my opinions are way off-base.  The safety and effectiveness of our military is paramount, particularly when they're deployed overseas.  

I started to get into it with Allahpundit yesterday, but I didn't have the patience.  He just doesn't see a difference between Code Pink's criticism of the administration (which was completely offensive, of course, but still the actions of Americans criticizing their government) and a group going out of its way to commit an act that any religious group would find outrageous.  I do see a distinction.  As you pointed out, the latter really is something that unites and motivates the enemy in a particularly effective way. 

It occurred to me that the U.S.'s entry into WWII was much more enthusiastic, if you will, because of the "stick in the eye" act by Japan of conducting a sneak attack.  We were much more motivated than we would have been if Japan had begun by waging limited actions on defined targets.  The outrage the nation felt in response to the sneak attack undoubtedly helped us be more effective. 

Same thing with September 11th.  If the "only" act that had occurred were an attack on a U.S. military base, I don't think the country would have united in a way that gave Bush the chance to actually conduct offensive operations.  Instead, the terrorists went out of their way to attack civilians and symbols of American life. 

281 the general should have finished his comments with the line "but i would die for their right to do so"

282 Are you saying that his conscious decision to air his concerns was anything other than an attempt to chill their planned use of their free speech rights? Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 12:03 PM (5aa4z) I am saying he never mentioned that they were not allowed to burn korans or that it was illegal. He ONLY talk about the effect that the burning of Korans in Florida and then posted on the Internet, which it will be, will be used by the Terrorist leadership to stir up the ignorant masses to violence and how that will effect his mission and troops.

283

Of course burning Qurans is stupid.

But we've crossed the Rubicon when the entirety of the global elites come down against the peaceful idiot expressing his views instead of those who seek to silence all criticism of their religion through violence.  Only Islam gets this special treatment. 

It's not even a fight when we surrender our values willingly.  Petraeus is not in Afghanistan to make the world safe for stealth sharia and global blasphemy laws.  He's there to kill those who try to destroy our way of life.     

Let me be outstandingly clear, only offensive speech needs protection.  Being a coward and caving into the demands of a violent mob is not a principled position.   The mere existence of the mob should cause people to oppose it, but not any more. 

284 Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 12:00 PM

And perhaps he's lost the deny-ability factor by announcing prior to the  burning that the radical Koran burners provide the radical Jihadists further motivation, reasonable or not.

But then, really, how much more motivation does a radical Jihadist actually require?

Why not take the offensive, and tell the damned radical Jihadists to take their own medicine and STFU. Winning hearts and minds, blah blah blah, never convinced the enemy of anything beyond just how dumb Americans are when it comes to swallowing propaganda that's well intended.

285 How we are fighting this War is a whole other argument. And personally I am not happy with what's going on now. HOWEVER given that this is the mission the Civilian Leadership has given us, my only concern is the safety of the Men and Women in Theater.

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 08, 2010 12:00 PM (0GFWk)

I can see the logic, but I would be surprised if this really makes much difference over there.  They are easily stirred up by petty things, and it's not like the Talibs have let up on their propaganda efforts.  They've doubtless told plenty of lies that make a simple Koran burning look tame, and suckered in the radicals as a result. 

Work like this, here at home, helps to create what you might call a hostile environment for our own domestic terrorist wannabes.  If this sort of public display of anti-Islamic sentiment were to become sufficiently common, it might help to reduce muslim immigration and perhaps even encourage some to leave.  That would be optimal.

 

286 Posted by: Y-not at September 08, 2010 12:06 PM (osFsP) Well I am in the Reserves at the moment for full accuracy and disclosure.

287 the general should have finished his comments with the line "but i would die for their right to do so"

Doesn't need to say it for my benefit.  I already know that each of you in our armed forces has taken that vow.  I respect that and have the greatest admiration for it.

288 he general should have finished his comments with the line "but i would die for their right to do so" Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 12:06 PM (gg4j2) Well and the troops under him pretty much are aren't they?

289 Just want to point out the hypocrisy of the left on the book burning thing.

The same fuckers that are hiding behind the "law" when it comes to the mosque in NY, are now saying that burning a koran is WAY OVER THE TOP!

290 Beagle, "He's there to kill those who try to destroy our way of life."

But for the rules of engagement that only sustain the POTUS' insane PC premise, to win the hearts and minds of the enemy.

291 For the record, I am playing the radical-free-speech-devil's advocate, here.   

I expected to take some shit, but I think it's a good debate.  I acknowledge some discomfort, though, with him speaking out on domestic issues like this, regardless of its effect on his mission.  Under Bush, I wouldn't have cared.  Under the tyrant Obama, I'm much more worried.

292

I admire Petraeus, but honestly, he should've kept his fucking mouth shut.  This is not his bailiwick, and he is subordinate to the civilian population.  He is in no position to comment on this.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 11:39 AM (5aa4z)

My sentiments exactly.  During the Bush years, I didn't hear any theater commander complaining the anti-war protests were emboldening our enemies and putting the lives of our soldiers at risk, and so they should be stopped.

Petreus should suck it up or piss off, or both.

293 "Our way of life" has become the epitome of American political correctness.

In that, Petraeus' request would support those who sabotage the destruction of PC.

The convolution of convolution, political motivation.

294 I expected to take some shit, but I think it's a good debate. I acknowledge some discomfort, though, with him speaking out on domestic issues like this, regardless of its effect on his mission. Under Bush, I wouldn't have cared. Under the tyrant Obama, I'm much more worried. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 12:11 PM (5aa4z) But see your confusing his remarks. He did not speak out about the propriety of the domestic issue of burning korans but ONLY on the effect that action would have on his mission.

295 I acknowledge some discomfort, though, with him speaking out on domestic issues like this, regardless of its effect on his mission.  Under Bush, I wouldn't have cared.  Under the tyrant Obama, I'm much more worried.

That's a great point. 

296 he general should have finished his comments with the line "but i would die for their right to do so"
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 08, 2010 12:06 PM (gg4j2)

Well and the troops under him pretty much are aren't they? Posted by: nevergiveup

No joke.

297

maverick muse,

I should have said "our traditional negative liberties way of life."

Now of course the epitome of tolerance is allowing intolerance to flourish. 

298

Now of course the epitome of tolerance is allowing intolerance to flourish. 

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2010 12:15 PM (sOtz/)

Along with every other form of evil.

299 The religious for Peace?

relocate the gz mosque

burn the books in private

300 He did not speak out about the propriety of the domestic issue of burning korans but ONLY on the effect that action would have on his mission.

Fine.  Answer my question at #316.

301 HOLY SHIT:

Check out Dem-leaning PPP's latest poll of Maine.  Where Barack Obama's approval rating is 44%-51%.  And Republican Paul LePage leads Libby Mitchell (D) and Elliot Cutler (I) by a margin of 43-29-11.

I'll repeat.  43-29-11.  Add up Cutler and Mitchell and you still don't get to the margin that LePage has.  I would be seriously interested in seeing some polling on ME's two congressional seats, specifically ME-2.  It could one of those "holy shit wtf?" seats that goes in November.

302 Beagle at September 08, 2010 12:15 PM

But I understood and agreed with you.

I only noted the irony of our present circumstance.

Disillusionment may precede but doesn't inhibit reconquest of The Ideal.

303 Perhaps the Generals and Admiral's are speaking out in areas not normally addressed by Flag officers simply because there is NO leadership in the civilian levels of Congress and the White House.

I have no doubt of this.

304

Are you saying that his conscious decision to air his concerns was anything other than an attempt to chill their planned use of their free speech rights?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

Dread.

305

I don't mind someone like a General attempting to 'chill' speech through persuasion, appeal to his expertise in the matter, etc. Just so long as there is no actual coercion, force, threat of force, etc. I've never really gotten teh whole 'chilling effect' thing--either there is punishment for speaking out, which is unconstituional, or not, in which case the chilling complaint is baseless.

I think burning a Koran is pointlessly provocative, but it is not what the Taliban or Islamic gov'ts do--they will confiscate Bibles, etc, and burn those (and do who knows what to those that owned them), not buy their own to make some symbolic gesture.

Anyway, the only Koran burning that I want is to see Muslims everywhere reject Islam and burn their own in defiance of the chains it places on them.

306

I think burning a Koran is pointlessly provocative, but it is not what the Taliban or Islamic gov'ts do--they will confiscate Bibles, etc, and burn those (and do who knows what to those that owned them), not buy their own to make some symbolic gesture.

Posted by: Randy at September 08, 2010 12:38 PM (zQKSr)

Fly into Ryadh with a Bible and if customs finds it, it will be shredded while-u-wait.

I've been at the point for quite a while now where I say fuck de muzzies feelings.  They want to come up to the 21st Century, great.  Stop killing over a insults to books and gods and the supposed messenger of gods.

Beheading a person while they are alive or burning a stupid book?  Now which is worse?

307 > 175 >> One step closer to immortality! No voters died and were removed from the voting lists in 5 states 2006-2008. That's not a new problem. They didn't investigate it during the Bush years, either. Posted by: hobgoblin And I won't be voting for Bush in 2010 either. Obama is in charge of DOJ now and if the problem persists then it's his responsibility

308 Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 08, 2010 01:13 PM (eyHnk)

Not to mention that his statement is not true either.

309

Without bitters, it's not a Bloody Mary.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 08, 2010 10:49 AM (5aa4z)

Bloody mary already has a bitter aftertaste, so bitters is overkill.

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