the liberal retardentsia

I'm so stealing that.

Posted by: ray at March 24, 2010 05:22 PM (Vdwyv)

He's worse than that.  He's not "moderate" because he holds a patchwork of positions that are not easily identified.  He's not "moderate" because he holds watered-down views.

He's a principled moderate.  He's moderate for the sake of being moderate. 

How was it a devastating defeat for the Republicans when they were vastly outnumbered in the House, and 34 Democrats joined them - and public support was with the Republicans, not the Demunists?

 Dave must have had his beer goggles on when he wrote that shit.

maybe he even had someone whispering in his ear: "get in dey ass, Dave"

Frum is an attention whore and the only way he can get attention is to trash conservatives while claiming to be one.

No one ever quotes or interviews Frum for his great insite and intellect on any issue, he dosen't have any. I liked President Bush alot and for alot of reasons. His ability to hire intelligent and loyal staff wasn't one of them.

Also as far as Frums legacy goes, Bush won't be remembered for his great speeches.

Posted by: kathleen parker at March 24, 2010 05:17 PM (cEXzj)

You might be right... but he's terrific working from his knees!

If only we sought to work with the Japanese in 1942 instead of blindly demonizing them, they wouldn't have bombed Pearl Harbor.

After all, Hawaii has plenty of islands.  If we had worked to reach a compromise in which we gave them some of the islands we didn't need yet kept the others, that entire unpleasantness could've been avoided. 

Just think of how many Japanese cocktail parties my grandfather got disinvited to because of our unwillingness to work together.

Frum said Sarah Palin got where she is by sending sexual signals.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!? This guy is a piece of shit.

Posted by: wooga at March 24, 2010 05:27 PM (2p0e3)

Hey, compared to the Precedent I am Thomas Jefferson. 

 the liberal retardentsia

I'm so stealing that

You and me both, logprof.

Hey, if everyone had just tried to compromise with Hitler, we'd have been better off.

What?

It's time to stop listening to pussies. - Ronald Reagan, paraphrased.

Posted by: Ace's Neurontin prescription at March 24, 2010 05:32 PM (dQLM/)

Don't you have more important things to do Rahm?

David Frum is the"conservative" version of French foreign policy, circa 1983.

You need to go forward or backward.  Mitterand pissed the Rooskies off on a regular basis.

In grade school, when they were picking teams for a game, Frum is the kid neither team wanted. 

David Fluff evidently missed when the Republicans actually lost, which was 4 years ago and then again in Nov 2008.  Those losses made this week almost inevitable, and of course it was David Fluff's own unprincipled devotion to flowery words apart from their actual policy meanings that helped wreck the GOP small-government brand.

David Fluff is part of the problem and will never be part of the solution.

Posted by: Ace's Neurontin prescription at March 24, 2010 05:32 PM (dQLM/)

--Rush was so right.  It's got nothing to do with what's good for people or for the country.  It's only about "We won! Nanny nanny boo boo!"

Begone, ergie

noun

Frum: This is blasphemy! This is madness!

Leondias : THIS...IS...AMERICA

52

What you wrote is exactly what states are doing to fend off HC right now.  People are waking up to the fact that we have no more representation in DC anymore, and are falling back, some quickly, some slowly to more state-based and local politics.  That's where the real power of freedom is anyway.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 24, 2010 05:38 PM (dQdrY)

--Ew.  I could have done without that.

How fuckin' retarded if Frum?  Who knows?

Posted by: Twinks at March 24, 2010 05:44 PM (wRPBa)

Interpretation:

It's worth... bupkis!

You know who reads conservatives like Frum?

Liberals.

21 Frum was actually a mainly economic speechwriter. But I think President Bush definitely delivered some speeches that will be in the history books. The axis-of-evil one, though, will be the only one remotely near to being a contribution from Frum.

/In other words, Frum was great at writing some economic stuff but Gerson & co. wrote the memorable ones.

Frum reminds me of the Euroweenie set that views diplomacy as a goal unto itself, rather than a means to an end.

The Dems deliberately shut Republicans out of the process, crafting the bill behind closed doors.  Their only "compromise" was to dump the public option- and then only because they couldn't get enough Democrats to vote for it.  What the hell kind of "compromise" does he think the Dems would agree to when they had no need or desire to do so?

tl;dr:  David Frum is an imbecile.  Yet another example of why writing speeches that convey someone else's ideas does not make one themself an "idea guy".

70 47 Yeah, pretty much, other than Frum's an insufferable git. 

True, that. :spoken w/ British accent:

"I have less of a problem with self-professed "rodeo clowns" like Glenn Beck than I do with David Frum, who constantly asserts he is possessed of a more thoughtful, more intellectually mature ideology, but whose actual output consists of nothing but fagged-up derivatives of Morning Zoo shock jockery."

dammit man, some of your summations like this one on Frum are just so damn solid. Nothing more needs to be said. You nailed him cold to the wall. I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote.

It's odd that this guy who thinks he's some big conservative intellectual heavyweight never does the big dance, never lays out a big argument. He's a little pretender nibbling at the ankles of people like Rush who granted are deserving sometimes of criticism, but come on, that's all Frump has to offer.

Posted by: CyclopsJack at March 24, 2010 05:48 PM (a4o2p)

My special superdeveloped Moron Anagram ability gives me "aardvark tuna juna" from that name.

Frum should beware of the aardwark tuna juna. It is not as nice as the Carebear plush toys that Frum like to snuggle with in his Dora the Explorer bunk bed.

Posted by: Thomas at March 24, 2010 05:54 PM (DuXaT)

No. He just shines them.

I was stuck in Phoenix airport on Monday night and had to listen to this goatfucker go on and on about how the GOP had to change or it was finished as a party. Packing this cocksucker on top of the joys of flying was nearly too much. Only the thought of donkey-punching Campbell Brown made the wait endurable.

I have little to add other than Frum is an excellent Quisling. May he rot for it.

76 After I read the Right Man I immediately threw it in the trash.  What a narcisstic piece of crap. 

For supposedly being about Bush, it was all about David. He's elevated himself so much that people think he was a major speechwriter. DF only lasted until '03, anyway. He collapsed like a house of cards after people got mad about "axis of evil". Such a spine on that man!

104 Well, if you listened to Mitch fucking chinless McConnell on Hannity a little while ago, you would've heard the Republicans want to start over -- this time with bipartisan input.

Sounds like the R senators want to shaft their colleagues in the House. How noble of them. Regardless, DeMint & Vitter are putting forward bills today stating that they want to repeal all of Hell Care. It won't work, but it's something.

Also read this, it'll make you feel better. The House is holding firm.

Fred Thompson:  Obama used 20 different pens to sign HC bill. I guess none of them wanted to be the one signing this monstrosity into law.

Our 2008 nominee: Obama is a decent person, and a person who you do not have to be scared of being president of the United States. He's a decent, family man citizen.

Conclusion: Thompson is not really serious about being president.

Correlary: One who wants to win does so by surrendering. McCain voters, YOU ARE DAVID FRUM.

FACE THE FRUM. ACCEPT IT.

Posted by: joeindc44 at March 24, 2010 06:00 PM (QxSug)

That odor you detect is not sushi. It's my vagina.

Posted by: Monty at March 24, 2010 06:02 PM (HQzxr)

I agree with everyone you listed but I'd also add Thomas Sowell to the list.  He breaks in down with breathtaking simplicity.

If I performed mitotic division, there would be Frums, which is "Smurf" backwards.

I think about this stuff a lot on the bus.

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at March 24, 2010 05:50 PM (tzcjs)

Whoops. Didn't see your post right above. Beat me by a couple of minutes.

OT: White House: Transparency? Are you kidding?

This exchange is fucking incredible!

The Obama White House did not allow the press to cover the president's signing of the executive order created to win Rep. Bart Stupak's vote for Obamacare. At the daily briefing, reporters wanted to know why no press photographer or reporter was allowed in. Press secretary Robert Gibbs told them they should be happy with a picture from the White House photographer, Pete Souza -- a photo produced and selected by the White House. It will be a "nice picture," Gibbs assured reporters.

Reporters tried to appeal to the White House's professed commitment to openness and transparency. Gibbs was having none of it. The White House wanted to limit coverage of the executive order, so in the spirit of openness and transparency it simply shut the press out. This is how Gibbs' back-and-forth with reporters went:

"The president is signing an executive order on abortion that is a pretty big national issue," a reporter asked. "Why would that be closed press, no pictures?"

"WeÂ’ll put out a picture from Pete [Souza]," Gibbs said.

"But what about a picture from the actual national media, not from -- " the reporter started to follow up.

"On, the picture from Pete will be for the actual event," Gibbs answered.

"Right, but what about allowing us in, for openness and transparency?"

"We'll have a nice picture from Pete that will demonstrate that type of transparency."

"Not the same, Robert," the reporter said. "Never has been."

"I know you all disagree with that," Gibbs answered. "I think Pete takes wonderful photos."

Gibbs' suggestion that the press corps thinks Souza is a bad photographer set off the reporters. That's not what they were saying; the point was that the press was not allowed in.

"Whoa, whoa, whoa," the reporter said. "Don't twist this -- it's not an attack on Pete.

"Well, I donÂ’t know why youÂ’d want to attack Pete, Chuck," Gibbs said, "but IÂ’m going to stand up here and defend PeteÂ’s -- "

"It's not transparent and itÂ’s a vital issue."

"And you will have a lovely picture from Pete."

"You really think thatÂ’s all itÂ’s worth, is a photograph, on an issue this important?"

"No, I think youÂ’ll be able to see the President sign the executive order."

"Not hear anything anybody has to say?"

"You'll have a nice picture."

And here it is: a nice photo, exactly what the White House wanted you to see, and nothing more.

David, at least I got an Executive Order out of my sellout.

Plus a free Presidential cock-ring with Eleanor Clift's cell phone number engraved on it... 

Bush won't be remembered for his great speeches.

Neither will Obama, I can't remember a single line from any of his speeches.  OK, I must own up that I try to avoid them if I can.  Not that I'm defending Frum, Gerson probably wrote most of what I find memorable from Bush's speeches.

Posted by: Monty at March 24, 2010 06:02 PM (HQzxr)

I agree completely that Rush, VDH and Steyn are in a class by themselves.  Funny you mention Krauthammer though.  He's brilliant, but I think he's got a bit of an elitist streak in him (Harvard psychiatrist? go figure) that clouds his vision on the Tea Party movement and Sarah Palin. 

that's the kind of transparencey that reminds of the ol' CCCP...

What's not transparent about Concerned Christian Conservative Persons?

Posted by: conscious and fucking amazed at March 24, 2010 06:06 PM

The day the press finally peels its lips from Zero's ass and starts getting confrontational about this shit is the day I'll be fucking amazed.

126 I'd rather see Paul Ryan devise a plan to win the House in November. Without the House, we are powerless to do anything about The Big Fucking Deal.

I think that's the purpose of The Road Map for America's Future.

Neither will Obama, I can't remember a single line from any of his speeches.

"Some say..."

"Let me be clear..."

"Uh..., uh"

"I reject the view that [insert straw man argument here]"

From Stuff Obama Said, Vol. 1, Large print edition

Personally, as a life long conservative, I am concerned that Breshnev and Andropov might still be alive.

I mean there's no reason to believe otherwise if they won't say there isn't. They haven't any reason to lie. If anything is more difficult then a peaceful seccession of leadership, it is trying to rule a country on the authority of a dead guy. Heh. Heheh.

No, that makes no sense at all. I am worried that it seems they must be fine.

128 Neither will Obama, I can't remember a single line from any of his speeches.  OK, I must own up that I try to avoid them if I can.  Not that I'm defending Frum, Gerson probably wrote most of what I find memorable from Bush's speeches.

The great lines were all from Gerson & co. But I can recall many great lines from Bush, none from Obama--unless you count "This is the moment...". I think that's more creepy than great.  

 Ace's Neurontin prescription must be the new face of ObamaCare, not only is it rationed but when you get a prescription it's for wrong medicine.  I checked, Neurontin is not prescribed for epilepsy. 

Barry Frum was perhaps born and raised in Canada overseas? to a perhaps middleclass family. He doesn't know what it means to be an American, or know what it's like to actually work for a living. He's also a pussy.

hmm, sounds vaguely familiar, but I'm sure I've never heard of Barry Sotero.

"We are the people we've been waiting for, so goddammit why didn't anyone tell us that we've been standing right here the whole freakin' time?  I've got a train to catch."

From Stuff Obama Said, Vol. 1, Large print edition

A great people has been moved to defend a great nation. Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shattered steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.
America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. And no one will keep that light from shining.
Today, our nation saw evil, the very worst of human nature. And we responded with the best of America — with the daring of our rescue workers, with the caring for strangers and neighbors who came to give blood and help in any way they could,

Our nation, this generation, will lift the dark threat of violence from our people and our future. We will rally the world to this cause by our efforts, by our courage. We will not tire, we will not falter and we will not fail.

But seriously, W's impromptu speech at ground zero was the best speechifying of any politician since 1988

HUGE bar!

Abe Vigoda.

Still kicking.

The world must know that this administration will not blink in the face of danger, and will not tire when it comes to completing the missions that we said we would do.

States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic.

For too long our culture has said, "If it feels good, do it." Now America is embracing a new ethic and a new creed: "Let's roll".

All the decades of deceit and cruelty have now reached an end. Saddam Hussein and his sons must leave Iraq within 48 hours. Their refusal to do so will result in military conflict, commenced at a time of our choosing.

Where's that one from when the space shuttle blew up? That was poetic, too.

Neither will Obama, I can't remember a single line from any of his speeches.

"Some say..."

"Let me be clear..."

"Uh..., uh"

"I reject the view that [insert straw man argument here]"

From Stuff Obama Said, Vol. 1, Large print edition

OK, you got me there.  I had in mind something of actual substance though for Obama these are the substance.  He probably thinks that if you don't say anything memorable you can't be held to it.

147 But seriously, W's impromptu speech at ground zero was the best speechifying of any politician since 1988

Can't decide if I like that one, the speech at the cathedral, or the special address to Congress more.

Where's that one from when the space shuttle blew up? That was poetic, too.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 24, 2010 06:25 PM (yfJ6g)

So, I just managed to quote Pres Bush 7 times, & that's only the ones I could find off-hand. Bet I copy + paste many more memorable lines if I took the time (Wiki is selective & left out the better ones).

Also thought he said, "I will not tire, I will not falter, I will not fail"--or was it we? It was during the special address to congress when he had the shield from the fire captain from Ground Zero.  

The great lines were all from Gerson & co. But I can recall many great lines from Bush, none from Obama--unless you count "This is the moment...". I think that's more creepy than great.  

How about "Let me be clear.....".

The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.”

(Guess who said this?)

Michelle Obama - never heard of her.

My wife's tennis coach makes me look like ten pounds of shit stuffed into a five pound bag

with lipstick, right?

175 #171 Thought that was "we", or is this another speech that I don't remember?

It's quote as "we"m but he says "I":

This is my reminder of lives that ended, and a task that does not end. I will not forget this wound to our country or those who inflicted it. I will not yield; I will not rest; I will not relent in waging this struggle for freedom and security for the American people. The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain. Freedom and fear, justice and cruelty, have always been at war, and we know that God is not neutral between them.

Plus this:

"We are here in the middle hour of our grief. So many have suffered so great a loss, and today we express our nation's sorrow. We come before God to pray for the missing and the dead, and for those who loved them.

"On Tuesday, our country was attacked with deliberate and massive cruelty. We have seen the images of fire and ashes and bent steel.

"Now come the names, the list of casualties we are only beginning to read. They are the names of men and women who began their day at a desk or in an airport, busy with life. They are the names of people who faced death and in their last moments called home to say, 'Be brave and I love you. . . .'  

Letting the legacy media pick our conservative spokesmodels for us is a lot like letting the legacy media pick our republican presidential candidates for us.

The result in both cases is somebody on the left who looks down his nose at the millions of us on the right.

177 Frum is listed as the domestic-economic speechwriter.  I don't know if he wrote any of the good ones listed above - but I do know W was unable to explain why SS needed to be fixed or the dangers of the CRA and Pelosi's spending.

He only did economic speech-writing, unless he was called to add in some lines. Gerson usually wrote the speeches with Matthew Scully & 1 other guy.

Gerson left in 2006 & was replaced by William McGurn, from NRO & the WSJ.

Posted by: Ace's Neurontin prescription at March 24, 2010 05:32 PM (dQLM/)

Erg, you're wrong, and you don't even know why.

First of all, Frum is a girl.  Let's get that out of the way right at the top.

Let's see, Sarah Palin is a girl and she could send Frum into a pee-on-himself puddle by staring him down.

Hell, as much as I dislike that wicked witch of the west Nancy Pelosi, she could bitch-slap Frum upside the head with that mega-gavel and knock him into next week.

I reject Kathleen Parker's characterization of my love-making abilities - the whole attack reeks of partisan demagoguery.

Besides, Katie is a dead-f*ck anyway. 

Peggy Noonan, on the other hand, can suck the rust off a trailer hitch.

Whereas Ann Coulter is a hateful woman;

"Whereas she has made hateful comments against GLBTQ, Muslims, Jews and women;

OK. That one's got me. Where did the Q come from? What the hell does that stand for?

Is there a barbeque involved? Is that Burger King's new sandwich?

Gorgonzola, Lettuce, Bacon, Tomato, and ....

Quesadillas? Quiche?

204 The Maine sisters & their ilk, I take it. Why must the Senate always shoot the House in the back? Yes, yes, I know the Senate thinks that they reside on lofty heights & that the House is nothing, but their colleagues did such great work. Are DeMint & Vitter the only senators who're going to stand up to this madness?

DAMMIT! Now they've really crossed the line!

KFC diner told 'you can't have bacon in your burger here - we're now halal'

A diner was left furious after a KFC restaurant refused to sell him a bacon burger - because it wasnÂ’t halal.

Alan Phillips was told the restaurant was no longer selling his favourite ‘Big Daddy’ burger, which contains a chicken burger with bacon, cheese and salad, because it had decided to sell only halal food.

Anyone who constantly asserts he is possessed of a more thoughtful, more intellectually mature ideology is someone to mistrust or to absolutely ignore.

You see, the useful idiots of yesteryear were at least being guided by the KGB. The handlers had a purpose, so they exhibited restraint. No one's guiding these idiots any more, but that doesn't make them just plain idiots. They're still doing what they were set out to do, but they've gone amok.

I view these people and their work as a slow-release cultural bomb -- weaponized, armed, and detonated a long time ago. For the life of me, I don't know what can be done about it.

I'm taking the ignore route. Wish me the best.

Whereas she violates an unwritten code of 'positive-space';

"Be it resolved that the SFUO express its disapproval of having Ann Coulter speak at the University of Ottawa."

Positive space? Is that a new quantum theory?

SFUO - Shut the fuck up ostrich?

This letter is bizarre.

The bitch on the panel with Brett Braier saying that the MSM allegations of racism in the Tea Party is going to hurt us.  Unfortunatley, Krauthammer assumed the allegations were true.

I've been to Tea Party protests, and have taken pictures of the attendees.  Many of the TP protesters are older/retired/fixed income folks who have lived through wars and depressions and various disasters and they see where we are headed with the out of control spending at all levels of government.

These people are not brick-throwing anarchists.  The brick-throwers are on the left.  They come out to play at every WTC meeting, they were out in force during the republican convention in 2008, they were out in force last night when Ann Coulter tried to speak in Ottawa. 

Could the various alleged acts of violence committed by "tea baggers" have really been committed by union goons or mob knee-cappers?  The violence in politics lives on in the left, it's nurtured on the left, and it's been that way since the 1960's.  Just ask Bill Ayers or the Black Panthers.

Could the various alleged acts of violence committed by "tea baggers" have really been committed by union goons or mob knee-cappers? 

Heck, the whole false flag thing sure worked for me.  Reichstag souvenirs, anyone?

HA also says that the bill contains an amendment whereby the states could opt-out of Obama Care:

It’s called the “Empowering States to be Innovative” amendment. And it would, quite literally, give states the right to set up their own health care system — with or without an individual mandate or, for that matter, with or without a public option — provided that, as Wyden puts it, “they can meet the coverage requirements of the bill.”

Pg 212:

(A) will provide coverage that is at least as comprehensive as the coverage defined in section 1302(b) and offered through Exchanges established under this title as certified by Office of the Actuary of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services based on sufficient data from the State and from comparable States about their experience with programs created by this Act and the provisions of this Act that would be waived;

(B) will provide coverage and cost sharing protections against excessive out-of-pocket spending that are at least as affordable as the provisions of this title would provide;

(C) will provide coverage to at least a comparable number of its residents as the provisions of this title would provide; and

(D) will not increase the Federal deficit.

The shills need to be "snowballs" with no prior history of attending demonstrations or any identifiable online history of voicing opinions.  Squeaky clean, to eliminate chances of detection.  They'll need to get in, get out, and then vanish forever.  They're a "one shot" weapon.  Any attempts to reload invite detection. 

Unfortunately, if it's a left-wing rally, it won't even be mentioned in the media.  It may show up on You-Tube, but if the radicals even suspect you're a plant, you run the risk of being beaten to death.....which won't be mentioned by the media either.

Quesadillas? Quiche?

My guess is quince.

At the risk of repeating something already said, David Frum comes by his kissing up to liberals honestly. His mother Barbara was a talking head on the Canadian broadcasting corp. One doesn't get into that job without being a staunch liberal or smooching more than a few liberal butts. This doesn't surprise anyone up here in the great white north. Par for the course in the Frum family.

I get these faux conservative guys confused, is Frum the creased trousers dude or was that Brooks?

IÂ’m tired of these media folk trying to act like they are smarter than me and also intimating that 0ur elected officials are smarter than me. IÂ’ve had bowel movements that are more intelligent than Frum and his ilk and some of the crooks in DC.

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2010 07:16 PM (CPefM)

Prince Charles will go for it. He's big on mutton.

IÂ’m tired of these media folk trying to act like they are smarter than me and also intimating that 0ur elected officials are smarter than me. IÂ’ve had bowel movements that are more intelligent than Frum and his ilk and some of the crooks in DC.

Can your bowel movements say "obsiquious"?   I thought not.  I rest my case.

This doesn't surprise anyone up here in the great white north.

OT: What are Dan's chances? You know, for mayor?

Can your bowel movements say "obsiquious"?   I thought not.  I rest my case.

Posted by: David Frum at March 24, 2010 07:23 PM (fA7M/)

They can not only fart it, they can spell it right.

They can not only fart it, they can spell it right.

Ah, shit!

Heh. O/T:  Shep Smith's pronouncaition of "Marseilles":  mar-sails.

I really wonder some days what the self-proclaimed conservative punditocracy would think of Samuel Adams.

Oh, he's a criminal and they'd hang him or hand him to the British.

But they'd BE the British so it's a moot point.

Bacon is not Kosher I believe that there are other more sinister hidden forces at work here

This must surely be a parody of Andy Rand...

Off Topic, but I need to ask:

Does anyone have or know where to find a list of days where Google either ignored a US holiday, or chose some other event to commemorate?

I think there are 2 or 3 in 2008, but I can't remember them.

257 Mitch McFuckingConnell has to go!

Maybe he can borrow some testicular fortitude from John Boehner, who says that the Rs will not be funding O-Care.

>>>"I think there are 2 or 3 in 2008, but I can't remember them."

Posted by: Neo at March 24, 2010 07:45 PM (tE8FB)

I hear he swallows.

Does David Frum have any good qualities other than playing the part of the "token Republican" on MSNBC ?

No.  And I say that unequiverically.

O/T:  How about that Ari Fleisher?  He scheduled Tiger's interviews on the day the healthcare vote monopolized the news. 

Cool.  He's a clever sumbitch.

Does David Frum have any good qualities other than playing the part of the "token Republican" on MSNBC ?

Posted by: Neo at March 24, 2010 07:45 PM (tE8FB)

David Frum is quite the musician, specializing in the harpsichord, and on occasion, the skin flute.

Posted by: Thorvald at March 24, 2010 07:58 PM (KHozN)

No.

He ate our salt and betrayed us. There is only one fitting end to that.

From a CBS poll:

The poll finds that 62 percent want Congressional Republicans to keep challenging the bill, while 33 percent say they should not do so. Nearly nine in ten Republicans and two in three independents want the GOP to keep challenging. Even 41 percent of Democrats support continued challenges.

Americans are split about the fact that the bill largely lacked bipartisan support. Fifty percent said they were disappointed that the bill did not have support from both parties, while 44 percent said that it doesnÂ’t matterÂ…

Despite a Congressional Budget Office analysis finding that the bill will ultimately lower the budget deficit by $143 billion over the first ten years and $1.2 trillion dollars in the second ten years, 57 percent of those surveyed, including most Republicans and independents, say the bill will increase the deficit. Just 18 percent say it will decrease the deficit.

Posted by: Fish at March 24, 2010 07:59 PM (M5t+h)

O'Reilly, O'bama.

Separated at birth.

 So I looked at instapundit today and see that the definition of medical device is so broad that it could include tampons and even my penis if it enters my wife for a medical purpose, you know, procreation.  When is the IRS going to come after me for the flogging I have given her at least twice.

That tax is dependent on length, so it may not be that much.

283 #275 As a disgusted Pa'er, I'm looking forward to Sphincter's immediate political demise with a savage glee.

Amen to that sentiment.

^{/Oh, so now you tell us where you live.}

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at March 24, 2010 08:00 PM (wmtV/)

Even with all that, I know "conservatives" who then voluntarily put themselves under the iron fist of a home owner's association. I can only shake my head.

291 292

Ooops.

Amen to that sentiment.

Thanks.  Too bad there aren't say TX quality politicians in PA.

^{/Oh, so now you tell us where you live.}

^{I thought I had already let that slip at times?  Regardless, I'm not afraid of you, being in another dimension and all.} 

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 24, 2010 07:55 PM (j7e94)

This makes me extremely happy.  I'm already imagining the look when he concedes:  50% bitter & 50% clueless.  I hope he lives for a long time with the knowledge of how badly he fucked up and why nobody cares about him except the senior care people that get paid for it.

Posted by: arhooley at March 24, 2010 08:15 PM (PBv6b)

It is a deal breaker for me.

Borg to Frum:   You will be assimilated.

Frum to Borg:   Let's talk.

Borg to Frumcucious:  OK.

Does anyone have or know where to find a list of days where Google either ignored a US holiday, or chose some other event to commemorate?

I think there are 2 or 3 in 2008, but I can't remember them.

Posted by: Larches Sojnnoh at March 24, 2010 07:37 PM (LhL5n)

Go to www.Bing.com and enter "Google doesn't celebrate" or some variation.  You'll get some hits.

288 Where do I live? TX. Not sure why that matters... Or you mean my old fictional residence?

That's because, with the exception of Inhoffe, Coburn, DeMint, Vitter, & so others, they're cowards who hate to admit that their House colleagues have more stones than they do. The Senate is nothing more than a glorified country club.

/Too bad Jim Talent lost his reelection bid--man's been fighting against this bill tooth-&-nail in his current policy position job.   

Posted by: arhooley at March 24, 2010 08:15 PM (PBv6b)

I thought the American Dream was Liberty. Home ownership should not trump that.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 24, 2010 07:55 PM (j7e94)

Hey, I'll be there!

#258 Miss'80sBaby

Thanks.  I just needed a clue as to what to search for. #261 This is ff had the right idea, but I used Bing to eventually find the Google Logo Site.

Google hasn't behaves too badly. It's more like curiously giving others time for no apparent reason.  Google seems to have some sort of site for most nationalities. Google might be perceived to be less thoughtless if they were to more carefully divide up how they displayed their logo.

I got roped into a debate with a crypto-leftist recently and called him on most of his BS. But wI as in an area where I had never before had such an argument and was not expecting one. I was unprepared.

Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at March 24, 2010 08:10 PM (fA7M/)

He was on Laura Ingraham this morning; I stopped paying close attention when he was on so I can't give you any details other than it was his increasingly tiresome boilerplate shit which I consider useless.

Emil to Anthony Weiner:

Weiner,

O'Reilly asked you a very simple question.

What's your fucking problem asshole?

Well, at least my reps in both Houston & Longview are good men. Not sure why we put up with Kay Bailey & Cornyn.

^{I thought I had already let that slip at times?  Regardless, I'm not afraid of you, being in another dimension and all.} 

^{Oh? What dimension would that be?}

note to self: fuck canada.

what a bunch of little bitches. anthony no weiner would fit right in.

Borg to Frum:   You will be assimilated.

Hmm. Idea for screenplay:

David Frum vs. The Dalek Horde.

Unfortunately the movie is only 12 seconds long.

Maybe I can drag out the kill scene.

326 For some that wouldn't fight, specifically those in the conservative Christian community, we are concerned that fighting in that fashion means you're losing your honour & integrity. I have to say, I like Ryan's belief that you find them with ideas, facts, figures, & passion. So, I have no problem fighting them to the bitter end & throwing their words in their faces, but I'm not sure where cheating gets us--if that's what you're saying. Whatever happened to the arena of ideas?

@50: "What he does not seem to have is any political or ideological principle that says 'here is where the line in the sand is drawn. Here is the point for which there is no return. This is the hill I will die on.'"

So, basically.....you're saying that he's a perfect Republican politician.

Also like Coburn's idea of making the Dems have to show their true colours. Whoever also thought of making the Dems recommit on the Stupak-Pitts Amendment was brilliant. Make them hang themselves, as-it-were.  

Combining posts:

I have to say, I like Ryan's belief that you find them with ideas, facts, figures, & passion. Also like Coburn's idea of making the Dems have to show their true colours. Whoever also thought of making the Dems recommit on the Stupak-Pitts Amendment was brilliant. Make them hang themselves, as-it-were.  

So, I have no problem fighting them to the bitter end & throwing their words in their faces, but I'm not sure where cheating gets us--if that's what you're saying. Whatever happened to the arena of ideas?

Posted by: Golem14

i though him looking off camera while bill was talking was cute. and by cute i mean if i was the camera guy i would have punched him in the balls.

334 I LOLed.

337 #323  In whatever afterlife you're in now.  Egyptian?

Middle-Earth, Aman, Valinor with Nienna, Lady of Mercy.

Where are you? Still at the edge of a cliff?

Frum: This is blasphemy! This is madness!

Leondias : THIS...IS  WAS...AMERICA"

Sorry, Leo.  The America you speak of is pretty much gone. Zombie George Washington just passed me on the street and asked me: "How faref Our Republic?"  When I told him, he wandered off muttering: "Man, fuck that noife."

341 @50: "What he does not seem to have is any political or ideological principle that says 'here is where the line in the sand is drawn. Here is the point for which there is no return. This is the hill I will die on.'"

[Poster's comment on Frum follows]

See, this is where I wish our side would draw that line & say that they'd die on that hill, like Pres. Bush did with the War on Terror. Now, I know that's  dangerous because it risks the loss of a political career & results in isolation inside the Beltway, but that's only talk inside that great echo chamber. Don't they realize how much people hunger for a politician who takes a great principled & moral stand & doesn't back down?  

352  I'm not saying cheating. I am saying, politics ain't beanbag. It's time we took the gloves off and bloodied the other guy. And not just once or twice.

Look. The Democrats are relentless. They are all 100% on message, 24/7. Can the GOP say that? No. We're too busy coddling the McCains and the Snowes. I'm not saying we need a litmus test or a party purge. But we need one game plan that hits the enemy hard across a wide front, night and day, no exceptions, no mavericks, no moderation of the message.

Now this ^ I can agree with, & I only follow politicians who do this. Our main problem right now, though, is the Senate. Seems a few good men were sacrificed because they said something politically incorrect. I'd rather have Santorum & Allen (?) than McCain & Snowe.

354 #351 There is a chance I'm still alive.

Holding out /onto hope, are we?

The only time a leftist wants to negotiate is when they have the weak hand.

Hudna.

@112: "Mike, we don't have a pussy bus.  We have a fukkin MRAP."

Given that folks like Frum, Brooks, Parker, etc. are still considered  spokesmen for the Right, and folks like McCain, Graham, the Maine Sisters, etc. (and Jeffords and Specter before they went over the hill) were members in good standing, our MRAP would appear to be little more than an undersized Razor Scooter.

361 #359  I don't have hope anymore, remember?

The side of the cliff, then?

_{/Did the winking face not show?}

363 353 Fa Cube Itches

I faw what you did there.

Clever on both your behalfs. I smiled.

"Axis of Evilfocaters"........ yeah... I think Frum wrote that for Bush.

As I've alway's said.... despite all of Bush's faults, he understood one thing. Creating an almost perpetual theatre of war on your enemies turf is one of the best defenses.... God bless our troops.

Cheney never had the benefit of speechwriters..... he ate them for breakfast every morning.

368 #366  Guess so.  But if you ever come back, I'll be waiting.  (The winking face showed, but I just didn't interpret it properly).

Gears of War 4: Return to Hades

"I will rule them by fixed laws [so] that rest and happiness shall prevail in the world."
-CHINGIS KHAN, after being named khan.

First of all, they've already decided they don't like Jenghis Khan or fashions reminiscient of him.

Secondly, who the hell is this, The 13th Century Nomadic Warlord Formally Known as Prince?

Pick a transliterated spelling and stick with it.

We get it - there's absolutely nothing in the english language that sounds remotely like the Mongolian 'chjgrrzthrp' sound.

373 #372  You're having way too much fun with the "Gears of War" thing.
I blame chemjeff...& Booosh.

Why Hades?  It's totally wrecked.
How else am I to return?

Tunku Varadarajan??

Is that what Cheney calls his cock?

@206: "Gotta stand for something, or you stand for nothing.  Lines in the sand must be drawn."

Fair point, but the consequences for crossing the line must be both obvious, and substantial.  The Right's proposed consequences are always: do nothing beyond a few phone calls or some letters to the editor from the lesser lights, and the odd "I'm so disappointed in our Democrat colleagues" speech from the leadership.  Unfortunately, that's all too obvious to the Left.  They know, with  absolute certainty, that everyone will ultimately just sit there and take it.

I'm anticipating the usual suspects are already planning on sitting out this yr's elections & it hasn't even been 4 days yet. Patience, people. Besides, that tactic got us Obama, & we all know how well that's worked out.

But, if that's the route you take, I don't want to hear you whining & moaning about the death of America. You let your silence count as a vote for Nan, Harry, & ObaMao. Don't count yourselves as being innocent in this debacle.  

@260: "Maybe he can borrow some testicular fortitude from John Boehner, who says that the Rs will not be funding O-Care."

ObizzleCare hit Boehner where it hurt - tanning.

@308: "Too bad Jim Talent lost his reelection bid--man's been fighting against this bill tooth-&-nail in his current policy position job"

No, he hasn't.  He's been arguing.  "Fighting" is one of the politician's worst weasel-words; they simply talk.  No one has been fighting at all, at least not since Brooks/Sumner I.   

No, he hasn't.  He's been arguing.  "Fighting" is one of the politician's worst weasel-words; they simply talk.  No one has been fighting at all, at least not since Brooks/Sumner I.   

It still fits the definition in Merriam-Webster. Besides, consider what you're asking--someone almost got killed. If this comes to a civil war, let's fight it on the battlefield.

Besides, consider what you're asking--someone almost got killed.

As opposed to bickering of Obamacare. No one will ever get killed by that.

OH WAIT.

If this comes to a civil war, let's fight it on the battlefield.

If it comes to that, what isn't part of the battlefield?

Why all Marquis of Queensbury?

You do realize that men who gave you your liberty, and your country, and the men who have preserved it for you, have not been boyscouts?

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That worked only because they knew damn well he meant it.

And he would have.

Oh, but by all means, when someone contributes to the death of 49,500,000 babies we must maintain decorum.

That's just perverse.

No wonder the mushy middle gives us no credibility. I'm not sure I believe us.

396 Did I ever condemn the rep. from TX for his outburst the other day? Don't think so. That was DrewM, not me, & I vehemently disagreed with that.

We'd also be better-off if we talked in terms of rebellion & not revolution. One comes before the other, & we need to do this in steps instead of jumping-the-gun. The Founders were certainly aware of this.

Don't they realize how much people hunger for a politician who takes a great principled & moral stand & doesn't back down?  

Sorry, I know that sounds good, but that's what W did, and he was beat down by the left and even abandoned by his own party in a number of cases.

I did not agree with many things he did, but he campaigned as a "compassionate conservative" and he governed that way. He said what he meant, and he meant what he said. Nothing he did surprised me, we knew what we were getting with him, for good or ill. I'm not trying to turn this into a referendum on the merits of W, but I am pointing out he was a no frills guy who did pretty much what you said, and here we are now. And I have heard very few people from the right even acknowledge that he was, in the end,  a plain spoken honest guy who consistently tried to do the right thing as he saw it.

So, let me get this straight. Frum isn't a real conservative because he doesn't shout, throw temper tantrums, hurl insults and rave.

You're right. He's acting a like a grown-up.

(CAUTION: Responses to this post will consist of 3rd grade level insults and name-calling).

You're right. He's acting a like a grown-up.

(CAUTION: Responses to this post will consist of 3rd grade level insults and name-calling).

As opposed to the post itself, which consisted of a substantive analysis of relevant fact and absolutely did not just drive by and call everyone childish and immature.

Thank you David.

A while back a friend of mine noted that Brooks runs his operations out of a very nice property in Georgetown.  My friend is all too familar with how hard it is to make a living as a blogger and wondered who was paying Frum's bills. 

I read Frum's book about working in the Bush White House.  Frum came across as a master of very little except self promotion.  What really struck me was his misogyny.  There is a pattern to how Frum picks his political targets and it runs like this. Any woman who has more political influence than I have must be a bubblehead who is using her sex and not her brains.

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