April 05, 2010
— Gabriel Malor The latest poll of registered voters in California suggests that California voters aren't reacting the same way as most of the rest of the country:
On the health bill, 35% of those polled said that if their senator or U.S. representative had voted for the legislation, they would be "much more likely" to support them in November. Eleven percent said they would be "somewhat more likely" to vote that way.On the other side, 20% said they would be "much less likely" and 9% said "somewhat less likely" to support that lawmaker. Nineteen percent said the health vote would have no effect on their support, and 5% said they did not know.
Californians view the healthcare package "much more favorably than what we are finding nationally," said Stan Greenberg of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner. "I don't think we will see numbers like this in other states."
In addition to support from Democrats, the healthcare bill appeared to have backing among nonpartisan voters. By a margin of 48% to 23%, those who registered without stating a political party said they would be more likely to support a representative or senator who voted yes.
In follow-up interviews, many respondents who were optimistic about the healthcare package said they had yet to grasp its particulars but thought it better than the status quo.
"I'm still learning a lot of the details," said Stephanie Martinez, 33, a stay-at-home mother in East Los Angeles. "From the things I do know and understand, I think people who don't have insurance and can't afford it will be able to get something."
There's a reason I've been telling folks not to get too excited about sending Senator Boxer packing. The average California voter doesn't give a darn about disfunctional government and they're quite apt to be bought off by shiny things like ObamaCare or high-speed rail.
When whichever GOP candidate we select proposes to take their shiny new toys away from them, Boxer will swoop in with more promises of bread and circus. These people will believe it.
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Posted by: Christoph at April 05, 2010 05:50 AM (0fq7b)
Posted by: The Obligatory at April 05, 2010 05:50 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: Christoph at April 05, 2010 05:50 AM (0fq7b)
Posted by: taylork at April 05, 2010 05:51 AM (0Hn5w)
Yeah, it's easy to discount as slanted press, but the LAT deserves no benefit of the doubt whatsoever.
Posted by: nickless at April 05, 2010 05:53 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: ray at April 05, 2010 05:53 AM (ykKLX)
Posted by: taylork
at April 05, 2010 09:51 AM (0Hn5w)
Land of the people who think things are free.
Posted by: FUBAR at April 05, 2010 05:54 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: Minnie Rodent at April 05, 2010 05:54 AM (PZLW0)
Let them have it. The best case scenario is one that will allow states to opt out and other states to become giant petri dishes of leftest experimentation.
Have at it.
Posted by: Dang at April 05, 2010 05:54 AM (UA4gE)
Boxer will promise a State bailout by the feds when CA finally does go bankrupt.
Posted by: Vic at April 05, 2010 05:55 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2010 06:00 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at April 05, 2010 06:00 AM (IoUF1)
They're getting what they deserve.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 05, 2010 06:01 AM (IuKAf)
Posted by: unknown jane at April 05, 2010 06:01 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2010 10:00 AM (OlN4e)
I've visited there many times, but if I had to live there I would have climbed a tower with a rifle years ago.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at April 05, 2010 06:02 AM (IoUF1)
Posted by: unknown jane at April 05, 2010 06:03 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2010 10:00 AM (OlN4e)
What about slutty blondes?
Posted by: FUBAR at April 05, 2010 06:03 AM (1fanL)
The average California voter doesn't give a darn about disfunctional government . . .
This is what years of dropping acid and smoking pot does to your brain. And/or not speaking the native language.
Posted by: 57 States at April 05, 2010 06:05 AM (kbH+o)
Well *of course* they will--because half of American voters (over than in Cali) have the education and IQ of a mango.
That might be fixable if the dinosaur media would actually do their original job of educating, investigating and reporting--but we all know that'll never happen, since it would hurt the Democratic party.
I doubt many Left/Lib/Socialists read this site, but just for the record: When your lights start going out, when the local grocery shelves are bare, when you can't find a gas station that has gasoline; when the cops start telling callers to just suck it up and hand over their money to the thugs; remember... those of us on the right warned you this would happen.
You didn't listen. Instead, you *ran* to embrace the socialist candidate, in part because you thought socialism was a good thing (and partly because the MSM lied about who he was and the policies he's been taped saying he wanted to implement).
I will help folks who believe in freedom and want to work hard for a living. You socialists can look somewhere else.
Posted by: sf at April 05, 2010 06:06 AM (eSMQV)
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That's where I stand. I was going to vote against my Democrat senators and for my Republican congressman before the health care vote, and that has not changed.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 05, 2010 06:09 AM (LD+ZJ)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at April 05, 2010 06:10 AM (DvIX/)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 05, 2010 06:10 AM (RwvOw)
Just because I'm skeptical about polls in general (and even more so when conducted by liberal media/universities) I had to take a look at the methodology. I found this little nugget.
Upon completion of the interviewing, the results were weighted slightly to more accurately reflect the total population of registered voters throughout the state. Weighting was done to regional and demographic characteristics according to known Census Bureau estimates and voter file projections; party registration was weighted to match the most recent 2010 report from the California secretary of state's office.
There's your grains of salt. Take as many as you wish.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at April 05, 2010 06:13 AM (Vo/V7)
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at April 05, 2010 06:14 AM (LdYLm)
Posted by: Jean at April 05, 2010 06:14 AM (7K04W)
Not to mention the millions of people who HAD insurance who are going to lose it.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 05, 2010 06:20 AM (RwvOw)
Posted by: Damn Skippy at April 05, 2010 06:22 AM (VDgKF)
I wouldn't doubt it's more popular in CA than elsewhere, but I don't think the margin's anything like what they turned up.
There's also a significant us-against-them pool of Democrats in this state who'll voice support for it purely because, well, they have to.
Posted by: mrkwong at April 05, 2010 06:24 AM (J/h0h)
"You didn't listen. Instead, you *ran* to embrace the socialist candidate, in part because you thought socialism was a good thing (and partly because the MSM lied about who he was and the policies he's been taped saying he wanted to implement)."
And they'll blame YOU for the disaster, you right-wing deviationist wrecker, you.
Posted by: eb at April 05, 2010 06:25 AM (XboVn)
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at April 05, 2010 06:28 AM (dWrNl)
Yes, most California's are decidedly liberal and they continue to support the same asshat liberal politicians who've sold them down the river time and time again with all sorts of promises.
But I think that this next election will be a real awakening for many. The actual percentage of people who vote and who take part in elections or consider themselves "politically active" in most areas of the country, including California, is relatively small. Voter turnout is usually fairly low and as a result you really don't have to have that many kool-aid drinkers show up to win an election, especially if the other side is firmly convinced that they have only a small hope of victory. If they think their vote doesn't matter, they generally don't show up at the polls.
This next election, however, I have a feeling your going to have a lot more people who haven't really participated in the past showing up at the polls to register their disgust with the current administration and it's unprecedented level of corruption and hubris.
So honestly I don't think folks like Boxer are quite as safe as they think they might be even if they are from areas that are heavily "democrat" or "liberal". They'll get the same percentage vote from those folks that they've always gotten.
But the opposition candidate is going to be drawing not only from traditional areas of support but also from a lot of folks who in previous elections haven't been nearly as motivated to get down to the voting booth on election day.
In Scott Brown's recent election votor turnout was at 50 percent or more in many communities despite rain, sleet, snow and even in one district a power outage that had people voting by flashlight. It's reported that some precincts even ran out of ballots.
So yes, even in the land of liberal I think that Republican candidates might actually be able to turn the tide provided they stick to a coherent message and concentrate on reaching out to voters who in the past may not have voted for a wide variety of reasons.
Keep in mind that most polls are based on "likely voters", meaning people who participated in elections of the past. But the dynamic's this year are totally different than what they once were, and as a result I don't think there really is an election out there this next time around that isn't a jump ball in most respects.
So like I said, I'm going to wait and see what happens.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 05, 2010 06:29 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: RobD at April 05, 2010 06:34 AM (sV3Dv)
Posted by: carin at April 05, 2010 06:35 AM (UsRyD)
Ha, ha, ha, that retard is in for a major wakeup call.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 05, 2010 06:36 AM (yTva0)
Posted by: carin at April 05, 2010 06:36 AM (UsRyD)
It'll be just like Christmas! I hate parasites like this with the hatred of a million burning suns. Fucking tapeworms
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, Bacons, and Really Really Expensive Scotch at April 05, 2010 06:39 AM (erIg9)
LA Times/USC poll. let's see the questions/breakdowns/samples. while I'll be the first to admit Cali voters are all over the place, I'm not buying this one until I've checked under the hood.
Cali voted: no new taxes, no bilingual education, no drivers liscenses for illegals, no gay marraige, no race-based admissions in public schools, no never-ending increases in property tax, no welfare for illegals
Cali voted for: numerous crap sandwiches plus Boxer and Feinstein and once again for JERRY BROWN for AG.!?!
Moonbat city from LA to San Francisco. The rest of the state is overwhelmingly red.
Posted by: Cindy in San Diego at April 05, 2010 06:40 AM (IB258)
Posted by: bill-tb at April 05, 2010 06:40 AM (y+QfZ)
Posted by: dulce at April 05, 2010 06:43 AM (HFdqI)
Like the East LA mother interviewed: East LA is about 99% Hispanic, illegal immigrant, Democrat.
Sadly, though, the Dems here have created the dependent majority that Obams is still dreaming of. All the middle class earners have left the building; the takers have remained.
Posted by: PJ at April 05, 2010 06:44 AM (Z9DO/)
Posted by: Sparky at April 05, 2010 06:47 AM (r0u40)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 05, 2010 06:54 AM (T1boi)
Posted by: Editor at April 05, 2010 06:54 AM (pUfK9)
Posted by: Barbarian at April 05, 2010 06:54 AM (EL+OC)
Knock-knock at your front door
It's the suede/denim secret police
They have come for your uncool niece
Come quietly to the camp
You'd look nice as a drawstring lamp
Don't you worry, it's only a shower
For your clothes here's a pretty flower.
Posted by: The Dead Kennedys at April 05, 2010 06:55 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: J at April 05, 2010 06:57 AM (T3/qP)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 05, 2010 06:57 AM (mHQ7T)
What do you expect when a large number of voters in CA are illegal immigrants who came there for a free ride? Of course, they shouldn't be voting but they are encouraged and enabled by the liberals, who need them as a power base.
Sadly, there are still sizeable numbers of "Republicans" who either have romantic notions of immigration or are addicted to cheap hired help.
Southern CA is a lost cause; de-annex it from the union and/or nuke it from orbit.
Actually, NorCal near the coast is no better, and arguably even worse. San Diego at least still has a sizeable military presence and Orange County still has lots of Republican patriots. The real divison in Cali is more Coast / Interior than North / South
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 05, 2010 06:58 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Typical Fucking Moonbat at April 05, 2010 07:02 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: KG at April 05, 2010 07:02 AM (DeCj1)
Posted by: FatBaldnSassy at April 05, 2010 07:02 AM (Lq9ag)
Posted by: exdem13 at April 05, 2010 07:03 AM (lYKj1)
Me personally I'm taking a wait and see attitude on all of this, since for the most part any poll conducted by the MSM is only fit to line bird cages with in the first place.
The Field Poll is particularly notorious for this--always a 5% leftward skew, and on teh ghey issues even more than that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 05, 2010 07:04 AM (ujg0T)
Except it's not cheap; the taxpayers are picking up the tab. Fuck these lowlife politicians and celebrities who feel we should pay for their maids' benefits.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 05, 2010 07:04 AM (mHQ7T)
Well that proves it.
Drugs do serious damage to DNA as evidenced by the Idiocracy population of Californicate. Not only are the ancient hippies (still) disconnected from reality, now their adult children demonstrate the (obvious) brain damage of their own drug habits combined with the genetic intelligence deficit from broken DNA inherited from their drug addled parents. QED.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at April 05, 2010 07:05 AM (adr25)
Except it's not cheap; the taxpayers are picking up the tab. Fuck these lowlife politicians and celebrities who feel we should pay for their maids' benefits.
You are absolutely right. But the Bushyrovies and the Wall Street Journal greedheads still won't admit that.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 05, 2010 07:06 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Fritz at April 05, 2010 07:13 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: Taqiyy. at April 05, 2010 07:22 AM (ltfED)
I support the random, natural, "act-of-God" destruction of your state.
In that, I can still claim the moral high ground, and do.
Posted by: Taqiyy. at April 05, 2010 07:26 AM (ltfED)
Posted by: Macho Comacho at April 05, 2010 07:28 AM (obXkJ)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 05, 2010 07:29 AM (wtFSd)
And yeah, trusting the LA times and polling is just... ignorant, to say the least.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 05, 2010 07:32 AM (PQY7w)
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at April 05, 2010 07:42 AM (ucq49)
When I hear "big broken nanny tit" I think of the Speaker of the House and her saggy Milk Duds.
I do too. I blame Nanny Nancy Nazi.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 05, 2010 07:42 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: SGT Dan at April 05, 2010 07:53 AM (GgXZc)
Posted by: Dave R. at April 05, 2010 07:55 AM (iTEXe)
Posted by: dagny at April 05, 2010 07:57 AM (jRNQ3)
Hiring legal workers makes the price of produce go up a whole 3% (9 cents on $3/pint strawberries). R&D departments are doing amazing things with harvesting machines these days, until their budgets get cut to pay for Obamacare.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 05, 2010 07:57 AM (RwvOw)
This is why I advocate the nuclear option in California. The GOP should just "Go Galt." Let the Democrats have a simple majority to pass budgets. Let them pass the global warming bill. Give them everything they want. Only in utter and total destruction of the liberal infrastructure will wake people up. Only then will people be forced to choose between the right and the left. Betweem liberalism and conservatism. The liberals that have been able to "afford" liberalism won't be able to, the minorities that have voted Democrats all their lives will see their most depply held beliefs about the Democrat party revealed as lies.
Let the liberals have the state, THEN we can rebuild it.
Posted by: theworldisnotenough at April 05, 2010 08:05 AM (JpqtI)
Posted by: Jayne on the left coast at April 05, 2010 08:08 AM (vE5U0)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 05, 2010 08:08 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: obladioblada at April 05, 2010 08:09 AM (vkdvJ)
But... we're going to get a high-speed rail system that few will use and everyone will pay for. The people have spoken!
All we need is just a few more regulations and just a few more taxes we'll have an environmental and worker's utopia right here.
s/ A. Californian
Posted by: Max Entropy at April 05, 2010 08:09 AM (uuZjB)
Hiring legal workers makes the price of produce go up a whole 3% (9 cents on $3/pint strawberries). R&D departments are doing amazing things with harvesting machines these days, until their budgets get cut to pay for Obamacare.
Like I said before, you are absolutely right. But the Bushyrovies and the Wall Street Journal greedheads still won't admit that.
The Bushyrovies did this to themselves. When did their polls go into the sewer? When they pushed "Comprehensive" Scamnesty. Nope, not the Iraq War--look at exactly when those poll numbers fell.
As a general rule, whenever you hear the word "Comprehensive", just like when you hear the term "progressive", it's a sign of impending Commiecrat ruin.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 05, 2010 08:11 AM (ujg0T)
Besides, they are careful to poll illegal aliens, welfare queens, government workers and like to get the numbers that they want.
Besides everything else, they are completely dishonest in their business dealings. Twice, they have started delivering their newspaper to me without even contacting me first. Then they claimed that I had "signed up". Just plain crooks.
Folks, you are talking about people who are not only totally dishonest, but proud of it!
Posted by: GaryS at April 05, 2010 08:12 AM (WFVmk)
Posted by: Barbarian at April 05, 2010 10:54 AM (EL+OC)
What's up with that? Is it possible that he fled CA to be around like-minded people as I'm considering doing?
Posted by: Max Entropy at April 05, 2010 08:14 AM (uuZjB)
81 Don't feel bad sister (sister, right?) -- same thing happens here. The major metros are polled, maybe a few college enclaves. The results are applied to everybody in the state.
Sincerely,
somebody from a state in about as bad a shape as Cali
Posted by: unknown jane at April 05, 2010 08:21 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: SGT Dan at April 05, 2010 08:25 AM (GgXZc)
Posted by: red at April 05, 2010 08:28 AM (akHM/)
I left California a year and a half ago.
Not all California is liberal.. but unfortunately.. voters in LA and SF out number the sane parts of the state.
Let California fail. ... bankrupt.. Ka-poot. That is the only thing that will work.. let them see what the liberal nonsense has done to thier beautiful state.
Posted by: Timbo at April 05, 2010 08:37 AM (7GgDy)
Posted by: Steve at April 05, 2010 08:37 AM (+ds8F)
#82, I'm the one who wants to destroy the villages. And really saving them isn't part of my agenda, I'm wanting to save us. I'm beginning to think of entrenched liberal communities as gangrenous limbs or tumors. Cut them out and eliminate them before they destroy the rest of us.
I do understand this. I have often joked (well, not entirely joking) that four small atom bombs-- detonated on San Francisco, Oakland/Berkeley, South Central LA, and West Hollywood--would save this state, like cauterizing the gangrene.
That said, I'm not ready to give up the ship just yet. Maybe I am holding onto a lost cause--once upon a time, this was THE best place on earth to live.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 05, 2010 08:38 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: GarandFan at April 05, 2010 08:40 AM (6mwMs)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 05, 2010 08:42 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Mitch at April 05, 2010 08:43 AM (lJEjQ)
The LA Times does this kind of thing far worse than the NY Times.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 05, 2010 08:57 AM (z1N6a)
This state needs to fail and fail hard. I know that this will fall on me to a degree but what is wrong with CA will never get fixed until the people in this state are reeducated by reality.
Posted by: RayJ at April 05, 2010 08:58 AM (YcjCJ)
Between Illegals and Progressives, CA is dominated by parasites. Yo Jane ! .... it doesn't matter what the Productives think ... the show done be run by dem extraspeshul oppressed groups, si ? Nahmean ? If you got pigment yo dreams ain't no figment !
Businesses flee the state. Pathology rules it's major metro enclaves. BFS they'd vote for a synthetic creation ... stand here - wear these clothes - say these words - BRILLIANT !
52% of the national electorate voted for Mau-Mau Man; factor in votes from the Remnant States and the fraction who opted for the Halfrican-American in AhnuldLand is what ... 60% ... soon to be 75% with el Amnestio ?
And since the Dems = RINOP, the answer will not be forthcoming from the political process; it's irretrievably corrupted.
Posted by: OhioDude at April 05, 2010 08:58 AM (d6j6Y)
"Bbuuuutt... I WANT IT!!!! I don't care if you say we can't afford it, I want it, want it, want it, and I WANT IT NOW ---waaaaah, you're so NOT FAIR to me.... you're so mean.... I hate you I hate you I really do!!! "
An entire state filled with three-year-olds? Gagggh.
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at April 05, 2010 09:01 AM (hq0VE)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 05, 2010 09:06 AM (VKfXw)
Posted by: Heltau at April 05, 2010 09:07 AM (RZDTZ)
@95 GarandFan,
then these idiots move to other states and start all over again. It metastisizes like a virile cancer. Just ask Oregon and Washington states.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at April 05, 2010 09:11 AM (adr25)
Posted by: Jonahec at April 05, 2010 09:12 AM (QC5j9)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at April 05, 2010 09:13 AM (VKfXw)
Posted by: Tommy V at April 05, 2010 09:18 AM (gkc1e)
Posted by: gubmint edumcated Kaliphornian at April 05, 2010 09:49 AM (DYJjQ)
Posted by: SGT Dan at April 05, 2010 09:50 AM (GgXZc)
Posted by: 1idvet at April 05, 2010 11:03 AM (xUxh3)
Posted by: jeaneeinabottle at April 05, 2010 11:51 AM (YHikx)
Posted by: bigDon at April 05, 2010 12:31 PM (QMkI+)
Posted by: Mindy at April 05, 2010 12:47 PM (uCsg8)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 05, 2010 12:53 PM (kmEfr)
And this is somehow surprising because...???
Posted by: antisocialist at April 05, 2010 12:58 PM (Rwudm)
116 105 "...these idiots move to other states and start all over again. It metastisizes like a virile cancer. Just ask Oregon and Washington states."
....and Colorado.
**********
....and New Hampshire, where the snotty lib refugees from Mass. and VT. sneeringly refer to the locals as "woodchucks".
Posted by: effinayright at April 05, 2010 01:00 PM (3sB5l)
Posted by: Mountain Mom at April 05, 2010 01:59 PM (7zvBA)
I live here and I can't wait for it to fail. I can't wait until their NIMBY/BANANA policies result in rolling electric blackouts. I can't wait until their anti-business attitude produces 35% unemployment. I can't wait until gas is $17.50 a gallon from taxes. Until their morning Starbucks and pastry is $25 due to caffeine and fat/sugar taxes. Etcetera.
Then I'll leave.
Posted by: Nemo from Erewhon at April 05, 2010 04:05 PM (5mWrT)
Posted by: SukieTawdry at April 05, 2010 04:28 PM (gZjIL)
Posted by: sexypig at April 05, 2010 06:34 PM (yr+9D)
As a conservative Californian I am offended. Less than half of the respondents to a cooked poll favor Obamacare and it's catnip to the "decent" people who live out of state and wish every bad thing to happen to us. One thing you can say about CA, when the hurricanes hit or the midwest floods or the ice storms, we don't get on the internet and gloat over other peoples' suffering. Too bad we aren't 'them good people in middle America.' Not to mention we beat back gay marriage three times. Iowa, hello???????
Since central CA supplies a large portion of the nation's food supply, some of you shouldn't b***h while your plate is full.
As for high speed rail, it could be a success as a private project. It's a big state to travel and I know people who would use it. No public funds though. Costs a fortune to travel interstate by plane.
Campbell will edge out Boxer, I think. He's not that bad. Conservatives Simon and Connerly are supporting him. He's actually pretty good on fiscal issues. Yes, I do believe our state should go bankrupt so the freeloaders will go back to where they came from and hippies will lose power (God willing). Historically, CA was a challenging place to live. Those of us who are natives will be just fine.
Posted by: misty at April 05, 2010 07:07 PM (hrx3G)
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California likes the big broken nanny tit.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 05, 2010 05:46 AM (0fzsA)