August 10, 2010
— DrewM Greg Gutfeld of Red Eye and soon to be proprietor of NYC's first Islamic oriented gay bar was trying to get a comment form Ground Zero mosque organizers about whether or not they welcomed his establishment. You know, because of the tolerance and all.
.@greggutfeld You're free to open whatever you like. If you won't consider the sensibilities of Muslims, you're not going to build dialog
You can see more of their responses to Gutfeld and others here .
Now, I'm pretty sure a lot of folks had the same message about the mosque...you can build it but it's not outreach, it's an insult. I seem to recall them getting called 'bigots', 'intolerant' and anti-religious freedom.
I can't wait for Mayor Bloomberg to denounce the anti-gay sentiment behind this lack of respect for gay Americans of all faiths.
Or perhaps, all sensibilities are equal, some are just more equal than others.
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Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 10, 2010 11:33 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Tantor at August 10, 2010 11:34 AM (blNMI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2010 11:35 AM (UOM48)
I can't wait for Mayor Bloomberg to denounce the anti-gay sentiment behind this lack of respect for gay Americans of all faiths.
Or perhaps, all sensibilities are equal, some are just more equal than others.
Which sentiment is more equal than the other depends on who gives him more money, I guess.
Posted by: Truman North at August 10, 2010 11:35 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 10, 2010 11:36 AM (GgR+e)
Posted by: Achmed teh ghey at August 10, 2010 11:36 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2010 11:36 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: He jab, he jab, oh baby and he move he move at August 10, 2010 11:36 AM (iz+Qe)
If irony were made of strawberries we'd all be drinking a lot of smoothies now.
Posted by: taylork at August 10, 2010 11:37 AM (0Hn5w)
"Keeping in mind that they are right and you are wrong and they are enlightened and disagreeing makes you an intolerant bigot."
Hey, that's a lot like LGF.
Posted by: kansas at August 10, 2010 11:37 AM (mka2b)
So no problem then.
Posted by: VJay at August 10, 2010 11:37 AM (gQ+XA)
They don't drink enough. Imagine the pent up frustration just aching to be unleashed by dignified means.
Posted by: Neo at August 10, 2010 11:38 AM (tE8FB)
Dialogue for what fucking purpose?!?!?
You're muslims; you hate jews; you like to murder your daughters. We get it.
Posted by: brain, brain, brain, what is brain? at August 10, 2010 11:38 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Cordoba Initiative after being slipped some scopolamine at August 10, 2010 11:39 AM (wRH1k)
Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2010 11:39 AM (YBXMV)
In fact, being a Muslim is a lot like being a Progressive.
So the muslims are the tolerant victims who cut peopes heads off and stone people to death, and we are the horrible oppressors who are just saying hey, maybe you might want to think about moving that thing up the street, it's a little insensitive for you to build it here.
Yup.. your right, that is an awful lot like the same massive level of hypocrisy you get from a progressive. I just wonder how tolerant the progressives backing this crap will feel when they start getting stoned to death and beheaded.
And they call us morons. Sheesh.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at August 10, 2010 11:40 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: Ktnxbai *cough* at August 10, 2010 03:31 PM (BNTYP)
Yeah, that.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at August 10, 2010 11:40 AM (oIp16)
Screw the Ground Zero mosque -- Gutfeld needs to propose a CHAIN of gay BBQ bars, conveniently situated next to or across from every mosque in New York City. Let's see how tolerant the Muslim community is then.
By the way -- wouldn't a museum of Mohammed cartoons also serve as a cultural bridge-builder, helping Muslims to appreciate fully the freedoms we enjoy under our Bill of Rights?
Posted by: stuiec at August 10, 2010 11:40 AM (7AOgy)
Oh, you are SO banned for that.
Posted by: Chuckie Johnson
Again? Son of a bitch I hate it when that happens.
Posted by: kansas at August 10, 2010 11:40 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2010 11:41 AM (0GFWk)
Dialogue for what fucking purpose?!?!?
You're muslims; you hate jews; you like to murder your daughters. We get it.
Posted by: brain, brain, brain, what is brain? at August 10, 2010 03:38 PM (uFokq)
Yes, but do you get why those things are really, really good?
Posted by: stuiec at August 10, 2010 11:41 AM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Cordoba Initiative after being slipped some scopolamine at August 10, 2010 11:42 AM (wRH1k)
And if you won't consider the sensibilities of the families whose lives were ruined on that site by fanboys of the medieval totalitarian death cult you call a "religion", then I guess you're going to have to crank up the call to prayers to have it heard over the non-stop techno blaring from across the street.
Posted by: VJay at August 10, 2010 11:42 AM (gQ+XA)
Posted by: Muzzie Promoting Peace Mosque at August 10, 2010 11:42 AM (CfmlF)
I understand the Mosque plans to have a Bocce Ball court built for recreation that can double as a place to stone pregnant women.
Killing Fields never go out of style.
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 10, 2010 11:43 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: mpfs at August 10, 2010 11:43 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: kansas at August 10, 2010 11:43 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: Rocks at August 10, 2010 11:43 AM (Q1lie)
Greg Gutfield is a god. Him and Breitbart should be tagteamers in the WWE - help Linda McMahon out, too.
Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2010 11:43 AM (SdFa6)
Posted by: Randy at August 10, 2010 11:44 AM (zQKSr)
Posted by: CUS at August 10, 2010 11:45 AM (wOGfT)
Yes, but do you get why those things are really, really good?
Yes, we can't rule out the possibility there's merit behind these beliefs. After all, we stupid imperious Americans have to stop thinking OUR WAY is the best way.
Posted by: brain, brain, brain, what is brain? at August 10, 2010 11:45 AM (uFokq)
Yeah, I think that's going to be the out.
"Um, that wasn't anyone in authority who put out that Twitter. Just an office worker who we have had a nice long talk with".
Even if they do go that way, it will still force them to come out and say, "Oh yeah, we're psyched for a gay-Islamic bar next door!".
That or they own it.
Either way, it's a win for Gutfeld.
Posted by: DrewM. at August 10, 2010 11:45 AM (X/Lqh)
Posted by: Mohammed at August 10, 2010 11:45 AM (mka2b)
Uh huh, sure it was the Imam. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 10, 2010 11:45 AM (UEEex)
Rush reported this a.m. that the Iman who's proposing this mosque has just been named to some special envoy by the Obama administration.
Posted by: runningrn at August 10, 2010 11:45 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2010 11:46 AM (0GFWk)
The women can tweet only when a brother or other male relative is beating them.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 10, 2010 11:46 AM (5aa4z)
The irony is so thick, you could hack off its head with a knife.
Posted by: nickless at August 10, 2010 11:46 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mohammed at August 10, 2010 11:47 AM (mka2b)
Rauf works for State. As many, many, many such people do.
Posted by: oblig. at August 10, 2010 11:47 AM (x7Ao8)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2010 11:48 AM (0GFWk)
At some point I will learn not to drink while reading the comments. Today is not that day.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2010 11:48 AM (YBXMV)
Stupid failed governor Deval Patrick blamed "a failure of human understanding" for 9/11.
What's to underfuckingstand? They're terrorists. Any reason they had to do what they did was baseless, unwarranted, illegitimate, unsound, and evil.
Posted by: brain, brain, brain, what is brain? at August 10, 2010 11:49 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Zimriel at August 10, 2010 11:51 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: Pat Cadell at August 10, 2010 11:52 AM (usjNq)
Except, I don't think zippy drinks. Maybe he'll ask Greg to make it a gay muslim putting green.
Posted by: Dee at August 10, 2010 11:54 AM (PUlP9)
The irony is so thick, you could hack off its head with a knife.
Damn, I would so +rep you if the board did that.
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 10, 2010 11:54 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2010 11:56 AM (0GFWk)
Greg should definatly open The Spider Hole now.Maybe he can invite the Imam over for lunch while watching young men girate in thier banana hamocks.
Posted by: ziptie at August 10, 2010 11:56 AM (ljAGw)
Stupid failed governor Deval Patrick blamed "a failure of human understanding" for 9/11.
What's to underfuckingstand? They're terrorists. Any reason they had to do what they did was baseless, unwarranted, illegitimate, unsound, and evil.
Posted by: brain, brain, brain, what is brain? at August 10, 2010 03:49 PM (uFokq)
It's the failure of understanding men. We like to look at women. Put them under a blanket - we get pissed and want to blow stuff up.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at August 10, 2010 11:56 AM (zqzYV)
Posted by: the peanut gallery at August 10, 2010 11:58 AM (NurK6)
Posted by: Stuff found on the 'net at August 10, 2010 11:59 AM (rnKIE)
Like veterans?
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at August 10, 2010 12:00 PM (MMC8r)
If only the Muslims' well-deserved feelings of inadequacy were to cause them to do us all a favor and reduce their carbon footprint to zero....
Posted by: anti-Infidelophobe at August 10, 2010 12:00 PM (VmtE9)
Posted by: Next Door Neighbor at August 10, 2010 12:01 PM (rnKIE)
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at August 10, 2010 12:04 PM (zqzYV)
Posted by: Jeff at August 10, 2010 12:04 PM (A3tpD)
Posted by: the peanut gallery at August 10, 2010 03:58 PM (NurK6)
Like those anti-government types, or christians! Remember all the mass murders they've committed? What, no?
Posted by: Randy at August 10, 2010 12:07 PM (zQKSr)
Posted by: Rocky at August 10, 2010 12:08 PM (+Jlo0)
Posted by: Fred Fry at August 10, 2010 12:08 PM (JXdhy)
Posted by: ert at August 10, 2010 12:09 PM (MYtXl)
Instapundit has an email from a reader that claims that the state gives out liquor licenses and "no bar can be within 200 feet of a place of worship".
But...there is no place of worship there now and the people who claim they are going to build one don't actually own all the property they need...so can Greg open his bar? Will he have to close it if they actually manage to build a mosque? Or if there is a bar already there, does that mean they can't build the mosque?? Yeh, I don't think so.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 10, 2010 12:09 PM (XdlcF)
Except, I don't think zippy drinks. Maybe he'll ask Greg to make it a gay muslim putting green.
Don't you remember his doctor telling him to back off on the alcohol a while back?
Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 10, 2010 12:13 PM (fuw6p)
Like the 52%
Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 10, 2010 12:13 PM (usjNq)
Posted by: ert at August 10, 2010 12:16 PM (MYtXl)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 10, 2010 12:16 PM (cniXs)
Posted by: Rat Patrol at August 10, 2010 12:17 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 10, 2010 12:18 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at August 10, 2010 12:20 PM (QBQcg)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2010 12:25 PM (rfHsm)
Having said that, from the moral perspective, for those thinking religions don't celebrate victories by building religious centers, I offer you:
Battle Abbey, Hastings field
Conversion of Hagia Sophia into a mosque immediately after the conquest
Dome of the Rock
These things happen, and perhaps still happen. Therefore, I'm willing to open that "dialog", as I'm sure there is a large Muslim contingent in New York and thus the idea of a mosque or cultural center downtown is not outre per se. For my part, I'll start with this: Historically, we are told that there is a world of peace and a world of war. Is that still true? If it is still true, what does the new "cultural center" place that part of New York?
What is the already existing local Muslim population to be served? What are the other suitable existing centers nearby? Will the new center drain members from the existing populations?
And what is the goal? Is it merely to serve current Muslims in Lower Manhattan, or--like most, if not all religions--increase the number of adherents through new converts? What is the dream for the future of the center? What defines success?
Basically, my take is this--and I can be wrong, but it is my take: Muslims see a chance to convert the West. Not going to happen, but they see it. The mosque is not an embassy sent to restore an image tarnished by a despicable deed. It is a trophy. For you see, "trophy" in ancient Greek meant "the turning point", and a suitable marker was placed on the battlefield where the enemy turned tail and ran.
Like I said. My take. I'd like to trust the Islamic community. But you know, Rommel, you magnificent bastard:
I read your book.
So I would like to have this community dialogue and all that, but I have this one hangup, when I think about the Ground Zero Mosque not being a symbol to the faithful of a resurgent Islam as understood by the Wahhabi variant. .
And that is the fact that there is a Ground Zero. So that's going to have to be item one on that "dialogue". And the second is this--who wishes for the restoration of the Caliphate? Because, you see, as much as I would actually like Islam to return to the intellectual spirit of its golden age, say the tenth century, when pious men of integrity were honored and corrupt rulers looked upon with askance, I just got my doubts that a resurgent Islam is more about inward searching of one's soul in order to better show the glory of Allah and less about outward subjectification of others in the same time-worn way of ambitious men and empires. The first is in the best tradition of man, the second is just not going to be allowed.
Posted by: Horatius at August 10, 2010 12:26 PM (QoLEA)
That is the law in NYC.
Posted by: ert at August 10, 2010 04:09 PM (MYtXl)
Posted by: davidt at August 10, 2010 12:28 PM (HtIec)
Posted by: Obi Wan Breitbart at August 10, 2010 12:31 PM (te6E3)
Posted by: Crusty at August 10, 2010 12:31 PM (GvSpB)
That is the law in NYC.
Posted by: ert at August 10, 2010 04:09 PM (MYtXl)
No sweat -- a gay dance club without a liquor license works just as well.
Let's hold a street fair out in front of the proposed site and use food booths for fundraising for the community outreach program -- barbecued ribs, Italian salume, a luau with a whole imu pig....
Posted by: stuiec at August 10, 2010 12:34 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Andi Sullivan at August 10, 2010 12:43 PM (DYBWD)
The gay bar should be huge (a Mecca if you will) with drinks heavily subsidized by contributions from all right thinking Americans. Heck, put the restrooms on the mosque side for some hot gloryhole action!
Posted by: deadman at August 10, 2010 12:44 PM (kG2WQ)
If only the Muslim paranoia on this blog could be transferred to the groups who actually pose a threat to American society...
Like Tea Partiers
Posted by: Sycophant at August 10, 2010 12:47 PM (0fzsA)
No new bars within 200 feet of a Mosque, Church, School.
That is the law in NYC.
Yes, but look at the tweets. The Cordoba supporters insist that it's not a mosque. It's a ...Community Center!!!?!
So set 'em up Joe. (Where mah appletini at?)
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2010 12:48 PM (+FkcS)
Hey, that would be pretty close to me. I approve!
Posted by: Jim McGrevey, a gay American at August 10, 2010 12:49 PM (HF2US)
Now who's building the BBQ join on the other side? Anyone? Anyone?
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheEngrishWebs at August 10, 2010 12:51 PM (IkEhE)
It doesn't have to be a "bar" - It would be a Gay Muslim Outreach center.
It could raise money and awareness that gays are being murdered by religious Muslim political regimes in places like Iran.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 10, 2010 12:52 PM (0fzsA)
RT @park51 Dozens of American Muslims perished in 9/11. | At least 19.
and the relatives of those victims oppose this grd zero mosque monstrosity. One of them wrote an op-ed in Wash-compost. She opposes it.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at August 10, 2010 12:58 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Robert L at August 10, 2010 01:03 PM (sRjPG)
Posted by: gp at August 10, 2010 01:03 PM (FXTWK)
Is Park51 letting interns answer the twitter messages ?
Posted by: qzy at August 10, 2010 01:05 PM (rv3Bj)
@103 http://baconmartini.com/ not appletini.
Themed Bacon Martinis
The Tony Randall- the bacon-steeped Vodka is passed through a coffee filter to remove bits of fat and bacon detritus.
The Breakfast BM - substitute a pickled quail egg for the olive.
The BLT -include a small lettuce leaf and a tomato slice
The Canadian - use Canadian bacon and vodka (Banff Ice, Iceberg, Polar Ice, Prince Igor )
The Pepper - use Absolut Peppar Vodka
The Sizzling - use a chile vodka such as Inferno
The Franklin - two olives, one for each 0 on a $100 bill.
The Jock - two olives, one on each side of the bacon bit.
The Tranny - two quail eggs and bacon (pre-Op)
The Dickens - no "olive or twist" (of lemon) "Please sir, may I have some more..."
The Bacon Gibson - substitute an onion for the olive
The Turkey - any combo crazier than the above, ie cranberry Vodka.
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at August 10, 2010 01:07 PM (R2fpr)
I stopped giving a fuck about the sensibilities of muslims when they blew up the barracks in Beirut, killing 241 American servicemen. I think at this point my regular response to muslims crying about their delicate sensibilities not being considered, is SUCK MY FUCKIN DICK.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Squad, And Summoner Of Meteors. at August 10, 2010 01:10 PM (eCAn3)
Posted by: stace at August 10, 2010 01:13 PM (LYakY)
Posted by: stace at August 10, 2010 01:17 PM (LYakY)
Posted by: Tommy V at August 10, 2010 01:22 PM (qU57d)
Posted by: SGT Stumpy at August 10, 2010 01:27 PM (3YZn3)
Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2010 01:28 PM (FcR7P)
My whole life, lefties have taught me that confronting the sensibilities of backwards troglodytes was the first step to building a dialogue with them...this is so confuzzling.
Posted by: lauraw at August 10, 2010 01:31 PM (v++zQ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 10, 2010 01:36 PM (1y717)
Posted by: Mo at August 10, 2010 01:44 PM (UdqeW)
Posted by: jas at August 10, 2010 01:58 PM (ZM2Bn)
I just finished watching Greg on Beck and I can't stop giggling.
Posted by: TheresaD at August 10, 2010 02:02 PM (K9XK2)
It's "not a mosque," and this will be a gay community center like the YMCA.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 10, 2010 02:10 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
This is such a bunch of crap; with the Muslim ban on sex outside of marriage and the alleged 'protection' of women in their 'religion', Muslims the world over are actually very active in homosexual activity: http://tinyurl.com/56zt5h
Just another example of the profound hipocracy in Islam.
(one of my all-time favorite jokes from the former Yugoslavia: "How do you know you're in Montenegro? It's where they stop fu*king mothers and start fu*king fathers.")
Posted by: the Butcher at August 10, 2010 02:15 PM (8g9qq)
You should see the thread on the original Hot Air story about this - it was gold. They had stuff like "CAIR Bares," "Discgoatheque," and "1001 Arabian Tights."
Posted by: Guy of Gisbourne at August 10, 2010 02:32 PM (9yzl/)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 10, 2010 02:35 PM (Adi4S)
Posted by: mpfs at August 10, 2010 02:56 PM (iYbLN)
You don't need to put up a gay bar or a pork barbeque joint or anything else that expensive/complicated.
Just buy enough space to erect a 100ft sign and put that bomb-turban Allah picture on it.
That'll drive those Muslim faggots nuts.
Posted by: Warden at August 10, 2010 03:00 PM (QoR4a)
Posted by: FeralCat at August 10, 2010 03:03 PM (2pL+D)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at August 10, 2010 03:06 PM (x81hH)
Posted by: adc at August 10, 2010 03:11 PM (l4wgH)
bwahahahhaha
I'm so digging this -- this is soooo much better than any protest to date (although those are still necessary); hit the bastards where they least expected it and show them for the hypocrites they are. I never thought I'd be saying this but: go go gay bar!
I do hope Gutfeld has himself some good security; these frakkers are a prickly lot.
Posted by: unknown jane at August 10, 2010 03:41 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Havedash at August 10, 2010 03:50 PM (nzIWk)
Posted by: Cincinnatus at August 10, 2010 04:03 PM (TGmQa)
Posted by: whatever at August 10, 2010 04:03 PM (727RS)
It's been 9 years, but the sick feeling and fury haven't dwindled one iota. I try not to look at any Muslim with distrust and suspicion, but it's harder not to each day.
Sick, sick religion.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 10, 2010 04:20 PM (ud5dN)
Posted by: kansas at August 10, 2010 04:45 PM (+u1u6)
All that is necessary is for someone to spread about 1,000 pounds of bacon grease in the foundation - end of story. It does not actually have to be done, Muslims will believe anything.
Another way would be to bring a Haitian voodoo priest to put a curse on it. Muslims also believe in witchcraft.
Posted by: Pelayo at August 10, 2010 05:17 PM (QLmzi)
I encourage the abuse hurled at the muslims. More the better to drive them out. They are f*ckin pussys ripe for it and hate it . But, seriously. they wont care, have seen it before and can deal with it, Their so-called religion at least allows for any slippage among any single male and even take it all in stride or celibrate it ...thats what islam is - license to loot. Our protests are weak. And they know it. Its obvious. We are obvious.
where is a serious challenge to them to turn them back from morocco to indonesia, instead of sending up our weak sisters to fight for us? Cordova is not just a mosque, its a tombstone, for us.
until we strike at their heart and destroy their symbols, houses and clergy and icons, then take back our ground and eliminate their learning centers we arnt serious.
Posted by: meleager at August 10, 2010 05:30 PM (Y2/mt)
I agree,
"Mohamed's Beard" respects the traditions of the middle east and identifies it as a gay bar with western code word - a true cultural bridge.
Posted by: DriveBy at August 10, 2010 06:12 PM (qYCiM)
No new bars within 200 feet of a Mosque, Church, School.
What if the bar is already there?
Before building a Mosque, Church, or School???
Ounce of prevention?
Posted by: MoreBS at August 10, 2010 06:33 PM (CyPWX)
Posted by: Tantor at August 10, 2010 07:07 PM (Ek/Oc)
Posted by: Obamalicious at August 10, 2010 07:35 PM (kG7ZT)
Posted by: redwhiteandblue at August 10, 2010 09:22 PM (W3UHW)
Detroit filter
Fleetguard filter
Perkins filter
Donaldson filter
Caterpillar filter
Volvo filter
Field equipment
and so on
Posted by: 1r0716 at August 11, 2010 12:23 AM (RIrMp)
Posted by: DefendUSA at August 11, 2010 04:12 AM (yIwYC)
79 No new bars within 200 feet of a Mosque, Church, School.
That is the law in NYC.
What's the law on tampon factories?
Posted by: Average Jen at August 11, 2010 07:12 AM (fRnux)
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Posted by: Ktnxbai *cough* at August 10, 2010 11:31 AM (BNTYP)