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January 27, 2010

Undead: Nelson Says Sure, I'll Use Reconciliation to Pass Health Care
— Ace

Sorry, this story still is finished being written.

Politico found eight Democrats (including sorta-Democrat Lieberman) who were unsure if they'd go the reconciliation route, but today, Ben Nelson -- one of the eight -- is saying he's up for suicide.

Nelson told Nebraska reporters that he could support passing current health legislation using budget reconciliation as long as he believes the underlying bill is good.
"IÂ’ve been asked about whether IÂ’d support using the process known as reconciliation now," Nelson said. "So, I want to make it clear: If I support a bill, then I will vote for it regardless of whether it takes 50 votes to pass or 60 votes to pass. My position doesn't change just because the House or Senate decides to change the process."

The House wants the "fix" to the Senate bill passed before the Senate bill becomes law, which is... procedurally unprecedented, and may not be permitted. The CBO and parliamentarian are balking.

Â“Neither the House nor the Senate have figured out how to pass a reconciliation sidecar first,Â” one senior Senate aide says. Â“We are being asked to pass a piece of legislation that amends another piece of legislation which does not exist yet. We are having problems with the CBO and parliamentarian on that front.Â”

Apparently they want us to have a 60 vote filibuster-proof majority by 2012.

Posted by: Ace at 02:09 PM | Comments (171)
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1 Nelson is a disgrace to the good people of Nebraska. Being a liberal is like having leprosy. . . your entire brain and body just rot away.

Posted by: rplat at January 27, 2010 02:12 PM (G1ArL)

2 Does this man ever want to eat at a restaurant in Omaha again?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 02:12 PM (T0NGe)

3 "My position doesn't change just because the House or Senate decides to change the process. It depends on what Harry promises me to get me to vote for it. And how good my toupee looks on that day. I can be a real bitch if my hair looks bad."

Posted by: Ben Nelson at January 27, 2010 02:13 PM (kJLH9)

4 So, I want to make it clear:

My God, it's contagious!

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 02:13 PM (T0NGe)

5 When in Nebraska, I see a lot eating at home in Nelson's future.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 27, 2010 02:13 PM (muUqs)

6 Obviously no one has been paying attention to the Rules.

Doubletap. Doubletap, people.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 27, 2010 02:14 PM (TtXKB)

7 What else does he have to lose? He's sunk no matter what. After Brown won his entire deal went to shit with him eating the biggest portion for nothing. In for a penny in for a pound.

Posted by: Alex at January 27, 2010 02:15 PM (d8/2I)

8 If they do commit suicide, Bwany Fwank will do sex to the corpses. serially.

Posted by: torabora at January 27, 2010 02:15 PM (CH5ak)

9 Chicken , you ignorant slut .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 27, 2010 02:15 PM (a9UO0)

10 It's Zombie Ben Nelson. Who ate his brain?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 27, 2010 02:16 PM (UOM48)

11 These cockholsters will keep assuring us that the bill is dead until it passes in the dead of night. Again.

Posted by: the real joe at January 27, 2010 02:17 PM (WjerO)

12 Where does Nelson expect to be able to get his pizza in the future?

Posted by: Kensington at January 27, 2010 02:18 PM (LIH4p)

Apparently they want us to have a 60 vote filibuster-proof majority by 2012.

60? I'm thinking 80. Seriously, after Scott Brown, where can we lose?

Delaware? Nope.

New York? I'm thinking a teabagger can beat the carpetbagger or the oldbagger there now.

Hell, I think Eleanor Holmes Norton should be nervous.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 02:18 PM (T0NGe)

14 Simplify the signs ... FLUSH ALL DEMS

Posted by: bill-tb at January 27, 2010 02:18 PM (y+QfZ)

15 These idiots don't care about the CBO, or parliamentarian, or any other damn thing. The point of the whole exercise is to get this piece of shit passed before any more libs get voted out in November. If they have to break a few rules, well - it's never bothered them before.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 27, 2010 02:19 PM (Rwudm)

16 Stop saying the bill is dead. The damn thing keeps crawling back.

I blame you people for jinxing it.

Posted by: embittered redleg at January 27, 2010 02:20 PM (Ox91r)

17 This guy seems to have a constituency that isn't shy about letting him know what they think. So, this means he doesn't care what they think. I guess he'll be having a lot of home cooked meals when he is home and not really leaving the house. This way he won't have to tell them to their faces that he doesn't really care what they think.

Posted by: curious at January 27, 2010 02:20 PM (p302b)

18 Wait a minute. Senator Brown is still not a Senator. Biden said he would accept him to the Senate as soon as the papers from MA were verified and sent. Like, where did they go? Did Joe lose them? Well they can always blame USPS. Kenney got in the next day the last time HE won.

Posted by: mystry at January 27, 2010 02:21 PM (kmgIE)

From here on in, all pizza will be by home delivery for Ben Nelson.

Posted by: Cicero at January 27, 2010 02:22 PM (QKKT0)

20 Oh come on now, there just messsing with us, or ace is. This bill has been kopeckneed.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 27, 2010 02:23 PM (DIYmd)

Damn you, Spank and Kensington.

Note to self: read 1st, comment 2nd.

Posted by: Cicero at January 27, 2010 02:24 PM (QKKT0)

"IÂ’ve been asked about whether IÂ’d support using the process known as reconciliation now," Nelson said. "So, I want to make it clear: If I support a bill, then I will vote for it regardless of whether it takes 50 votes to pass or 60 votes to pass."

How about if it takes 500 or 600 votes to pass? Think you'll still be around Slick? Keep fuckin' that chicken.

Posted by: Speller at January 27, 2010 02:24 PM (o0R2E)

23 Posted by: mystry at January 27, 2010 06:21 PM (kmgIE)

we think alike. was wondering the same thing especially since someone predicted some monkey business on the night of the election.

Posted by: curious at January 27, 2010 02:24 PM (p302b)

24 He really doen't need to go home. I wasn't from there to begin with and I like it away from there just fine. My constituents are sheeple that we trained to vote D and I'm just fine with that. Ben will be just fine here in DC.

Posted by: Barbara Boxer at January 27, 2010 02:24 PM (CH5ak)

25 "Side-car legislation" because the House does not trust the Senate. Oh, what a tangled web of mistrust. To say nothing of being patiently illegal. "Hey! Let's CHANGE a law.........that DOES NOT EXIST!"

Oh, and lets give ourselves pay raises of 100%, then pass a law cutting back 20%, thus telling citizens we're willing to 'take one on the jaw' in order to SAVE MONEY.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 27, 2010 02:24 PM (ZQBnQ)

26 Palin with 60 votes wow!

Posted by: Dan at January 27, 2010 02:25 PM (KZraB)

Â“Neither the House nor the Senate have figured out how to pass a reconciliation sidecar first,Â” one senior Senate aide says. Â“We are being asked to pass a piece of legislation that amends another piece of legislation which does not exist yet. We are having problems with the CBO and parliamentarian on that front.Â”

Good luck with that, idiots! Just a small detail that you can't enact and amendment to a law that doesn't exist!!

What'll these assholes think of next?

Posted by: rockmom at January 27, 2010 02:25 PM (w/gVZ)

28 #27 ?

Posted by: Art Linkfinder at January 27, 2010 02:25 PM (s2TC6)

29 Ben Nelson... he's one of us.

Posted by: The Undead at January 27, 2010 02:25 PM (AZGON)

30 Not only will we pass it, will will institute the tax increases immediatly and retroactively to 1/20/2009. Suck on that, teabaggers.

Posted by: Naccy Pelosi at January 27, 2010 02:26 PM (QXKjZ)

Here's a video of the next pizza delivery to the Nelson household:

http://tinyurl.com/655zcy

Posted by: conscious, but in pre-drunk mode at January 27, 2010 02:26 PM (Vu6sl)

32 Nancy will delay, and raise this from the dead in the fall...

Posted by: phreshone at January 27, 2010 02:27 PM (1AnxB)

33 Maybe she convinced them that this is bigger than themselves, for the good of the country, for the little people, for those who are too stupid to understand how good this is for them but will make a nice bust of you in copper in the town square cause they will grow to love it. and they believe her????

Posted by: curious at January 27, 2010 02:27 PM (p302b)

34 Oh Snap! Hillary sitting tonight out... On Drudge Now!

Posted by: Mjim at January 27, 2010 02:27 PM (mMdWG)

35 Nelson already slit his own throat, so he might as well go down blazing for The Cause. Or caustic. It's history, man, like Hitler is.

Posted by: Agnostica at January 27, 2010 02:28 PM (gbCNS)

36 Nelson will lose in November and get some cushy job as a Czar, or Ambassador of something. He could be a Political Consultent for some business. There is always something for some out of work Congressman who is a Liberal.

Posted by: mystry at January 27, 2010 02:28 PM (kmgIE)

37 Duck season NO wabbit season and Who's on first all rolled into one. Not THE one, just one.

Posted by: Jayne on the left coast at January 27, 2010 02:28 PM (nIUYy)

I double corn dog dare you, Nelly.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 02:29 PM (pGELo)

39 Who from the administration will be in the bunker?

Posted by: curious at January 27, 2010 02:30 PM (p302b)

Apparently they want us to have a 60 vote filibuster-proof majority by 2012.

Two better interpretations that are not necessarily mutually exclusive:

A. Apparently they want us to have a 100 vote filibuster-proof majority by 2012.

B. Apparently they want us to have a tar-and-feathers uprising by 2012.

Posted by: sherlock at January 27, 2010 02:30 PM (cq3pU)

41 I feel unwanted.

Posted by: Piece of White House Pie at January 27, 2010 02:31 PM (iYbLN)

42 "nice bust of you in copper in the town square"

Don't you mean silicone? you were talking about Pelosi, right?

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at January 27, 2010 02:31 PM (OZJ/1)

43 35 Oh Snap! Hillary sitting tonight out... On Drudge Now!

Life insurance paid up, Barry? Not a smart move.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 02:32 PM (T0NGe)

44 The undead belong to me. The Dems are messing with powers they cannot fathom.

Posted by: The Lich King at January 27, 2010 02:32 PM (otlXg)

45 Hey Obama, I'll take that pie if you don't want it...

Posted by: Jason Biggs at January 27, 2010 02:33 PM (Vu6sl)

46 Â“We are being asked to pass a piece of legislation that amends another piece of legislation which does not exist yet. We are having problems with the CBO and parliamentarian on that front.Â”

Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to have my legislation actually in existence before voting/amending.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 27, 2010 02:33 PM (TtXKB)

47 How stupid are those people? Do they not think that a majority of America will see their actions as they are: willful disobedience?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 27, 2010 02:33 PM (i3AsK)

48 42 I feel unwanted.

Not by me. I've heard that love is just like warm apple pie, mmmmm.

Posted by: Jason Biggs at January 27, 2010 02:34 PM (otlXg)

49 OT but is Obama trading in his Blackberry for an iPhone, iPad, and an iPod?

Posted by: TC at January 27, 2010 02:34 PM (QXKjZ)

50 60? I'm thinking 80. Seriously, after Scott Brown, where can we lose?

EEYORE!!!

Posted by: Astute Hillbuzz Dipshit at January 27, 2010 02:35 PM (MXP2z)

51 It Lives!

Posted by: Dr. Frankenpelosi at January 27, 2010 02:35 PM (eWtdM)

52 I thought reconciliation occurred where the senate passes a bill and the passes a similar bill, but with different numbers. But what I seem to be reading is that the house will pass the senate bill and obama will sign it. Well at that point the bill is law. There is nothing to reconcile. The senate and house passed identical bills and the president signed.

Now Congress could obviously introduce legislation to modify what the just passed. But wouldn't that be starting over, subject to a fillibuster?

Posted by: Dana White at January 27, 2010 02:35 PM (zgeXv)

53 #42 I feel unwanted. ~Piece of White House Pie

Did Barry waffle on you sweet tart?

Posted by: Speller at January 27, 2010 02:35 PM (o0R2E)

54 As I said yesterday, this Obamacare alive or dead gives me the scary image of Glen Close lying in the bottom of the bathtub

Posted by: kbdabear at January 27, 2010 02:36 PM (sYxEE)

55 Sorry for the off topic, but does anyone have good links for a SOTU drinking and/or bingo game? Thanks Morons.

Posted by: Trish at January 27, 2010 02:36 PM (yqhkv)

56 #47 Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to have my legislation actually in existence before voting/amending.

How Puritan of you, ATC. I'll bet that you don't even look at pron.

Posted by: A "Progressive" at January 27, 2010 02:36 PM (otlXg)

57 I guess Kratos was right about that whole "chaos" thing.

Posted by: Max Power at January 27, 2010 02:36 PM (q177U)

58 Ben Nelson, dead man walking. Doesn't stop him from stinkin' the place up, though.

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 02:37 PM (9Wv2j)

Come on you guys. Ben's having some Kool-Aid. Why don't the rest of you Dems have a drink too.

Posted by: Jim Jones Hussein Obama at January 27, 2010 02:38 PM (QKKT0)

60 How Puritan of you, ATC. I'll bet that you don't even look at pron.

Of course not. I'm using those external 1TB drives to store translations of the Bible.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 27, 2010 02:38 PM (TtXKB)

61 Mark Levin is really really pissed tonight. More pissed than usual.

Posted by: curious at January 27, 2010 02:38 PM (p302b)

This is fun. Relax. I've seen the ending. We win.

Ben Nelson plays shuffleboard at his Florida home.

The more these cocksuckers talk, the more converts we get.

Posted by: gus at January 27, 2010 02:38 PM (Vqruj)

63 58 I guess Kratos was right about that whole "chaos" thing.

Oh, ye of little faith.

I just hope the chaos holds off until at least March.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 27, 2010 02:39 PM (otlXg)

64 Sorry for the off topic, but does anyone have good links for a SOTU drinking and/or bingo game?

You should read the site sometime.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 27, 2010 02:39 PM (DIYmd)

65
Hard to commit suicide when you're already dead.

Posted by: Pre Paid Sex Monster at January 27, 2010 02:40 PM (0fzsA)

66 History will look upon me kindly. Sort of like Neville Chamberlain. 0bamacare in our time!

Posted by: Ben Nelson at January 27, 2010 02:40 PM (554T5)

67 You're going to be force fed health care reform.

It'll be delicious, knuckleheads. You'll get health care. You'll love it. Now ace can work and not be denied coverage for epilepsy. And in five years you'll be shrieking: "Goverment, hands off my health care!"

Fucking knuckleheads.

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 27, 2010 02:41 PM (Z/lpU)

68 I think Walter Sobchak has the proper Parliamentarian response... http://tinyurl.com/yev2zvw

Posted by: Guvnah at January 27, 2010 02:42 PM (Rg8DN)

69
I'm starting to think the Democrats (the ones in the loop) are not at all worried about this November.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 02:44 PM (k9Ti8)

Mark Levin is really really pissed tonight. More pissed than usual.

I hear ya - wish Mark would give the SOTFU rebuttal tonight - Levin is on fire tonight.

Posted by: paranoid polly at January 27, 2010 02:45 PM (r7Vc3)

71 It's too bad, ace, that my father never loved me. Otherwise, i wouldn't have become such a bitter, worthless, self-hating fuck.

Posted by: erg at January 27, 2010 02:46 PM (Z/lpU)

72 @45 My guild just 24 manned Saurfang last night. Soon we're coming for you!

Posted by: Ashen at January 27, 2010 02:46 PM (lZ7M6)

73 Ace, Gabriel, Slublog et. al, OT but this may deserve it's own post. At HillBuzz, they have declared war on all 'rats in 2010. Link at my name.

Posted by: Seriously at January 27, 2010 02:46 PM (veuhx)

74 Slublog linked to HuffPo's drinking game rules in the Preparing for the SOTU post below.

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 02:46 PM (9Wv2j)

75
All the Democrats need to do is win enough to keep control of the houses. And then it's all over because they have the Census as their ace-in-the-hole.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 02:47 PM (k9Ti8)

76 Yes, but can we get some sidecar reconciliation on the rules?

I tried the sidecar reconciliation once with a girlfriend, she let me know the rules, it wasn't satisfying.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 27, 2010 02:47 PM (DIYmd)

77 It'll be delicious, knuckleheads. You'll get health care massive permanent deficits. You'll love it. Now ace can work and not be denied coverage for epilepsy pay 95% of his income in taxes. And in five years seconds youI'll be shrieking: "Goverment, hands off my health care! I am the lizard queen!"

There you go, just fixed a couple of spelling mistakes there for ya.

<pats ergie on numb misshapen skull.>

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 27, 2010 02:47 PM (MXP2z)

78 "71
I'm starting to think the Democrats (the ones in the loop) are not at all worried about this November.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 06:44 PM (k9Ti "

Yep so how come? how come they don't seem to care? They are not so altruistic that they would give up all that power for the party and the prez so what is going on then?

Posted by: curious at January 27, 2010 02:47 PM (p302b)

79 Fifteen is my limit on schnitzengruben.

Posted by: The Chicken at January 27, 2010 02:48 PM (k/h/i)

80 Can we all agree that National Healthcare is a bad idea? A productive discussion of the pros and cons might bring us all together.

Posted by: Agnostica at January 27, 2010 02:48 PM (gbCNS)

81 Is that a whiff of banhammer I'm catching ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 27, 2010 02:49 PM (a9UO0)

82 Look, until those people over at HillBuzz stop blowing smoke and finally deliver the goods, there's not much use in paying any attention to them.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 27, 2010 02:49 PM (554T5)

83 I'm speaking TRUTH to POWER and advocating for the little guy from my desk at my do-nothing government job.

Posted by: erg at January 27, 2010 02:49 PM (Z/lpU)

84 GOD WILLS IT!

Posted by: Ben Nelson at January 27, 2010 02:50 PM (MKyfs)

85 Oh, Erg is here. I wonder if he'll grace us with more shitty poetry.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at January 27, 2010 02:50 PM (IoUF1)

86 It's a hoot that after 8 years of Bush, knuckleheads are outraged by "deficits."

You understand the difference between getting drunk and dying of alcohol poisoning, yes?

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 27, 2010 02:50 PM (MXP2z)

87
so what is going on then?

umm, they control an elaborate system of fraud and massive army of cheaters which will generate enough votes for them to win key races and maintain control of government, methinks.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 02:51 PM (k9Ti8)

88 "Apparently they want us to have a 60 vote filibuster-proof majority by 2012."

Ace, why aim low?
66 is one-party constitutional amendment territory.

Posted by: Al at January 27, 2010 02:51 PM (0lyUI)

I'm starting to think the Democrats (the ones in the loop) are not at all worried about this November.

Group delusion.

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2010 02:51 PM (kJLH9)

90 FNC just reported that Obama will call on Congress to repeal "don't ask don't tell" at SOTU.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 02:51 PM (pGELo)

91 52 It Lives!

Posted by: Dr. Frankenpelosi at January 27, 2010 06:35 PM (eWtdM)

And here's a picture of it: http://tinypic.com/r/2a9qg41/6

Posted by: Jason Biggs at January 27, 2010 02:53 PM (Vu6sl)

92 Stop it Ben. You are making it too easy for the Republicans at a time when we are trying to improve the herd by eliminating the weak minded diseased moderates.

Posted by: Amy Winehouse at January 27, 2010 02:54 PM (Ylv1H)

93 It Lives!

Posted by: Dr. Frankenpelosi at January 27, 2010 06:35 PM (eWtdM)

And here's a picture of it: http://tinypic.com/r/2a9qg41/6

The horror! My eyes!

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2010 02:55 PM (kJLH9)

94 "Sad President Prepares for Big Speech" is a pretty funny headline.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 27, 2010 02:55 PM (MXP2z)

95 So....Are we liveblogging tonight's STFUOTU presentation?

Posted by: jakeman at January 27, 2010 02:56 PM (k/h/i)

96 Hello, McFly! Are you paying attention? Why stop at 60, let's go for 70!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 27, 2010 02:56 PM (ndlFj)

97 So....Are we liveblogging tonight's STFUOTU presentation?

Posted by: jakeman at January 27, 2010 06:56 PM (k/h/i)

I'm torn about watching. Maybe I'll let you all do it for me.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 02:57 PM (pGELo)

98
I'm not watching.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 02:57 PM (k9Ti8)

99 OK, I get it now. Barry said there were 57 states, so it's in the bag. Those secret ghost senators will be rising from their undead graves.

Posted by: Agnostica at January 27, 2010 02:57 PM (gbCNS)

100 Nelson is a good example of what happens when a conservative electorate trusts a Democrat. Tar & Feather the bastard, and ride him out of Washington on a splintered rail!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2010 02:58 PM (QECjC)

101

You are making it too easy for the Republicans at a time when we are trying to improve the herd by eliminating the weak minded diseased moderates.

The buffalo theory?

Posted by: Cliff Claven at January 27, 2010 02:58 PM (kJLH9)

102

OT: Howard Zinn is dead.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I want to react to that news.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2010 02:59 PM (I/MqP)

103 Nelson is completely without scrupples - the very definition of a slimey politician.

My only prayer is that the Dems do ram this POS down America's throat with a legislative gimmick. They will lose 15 seats in the Senate and 100 in the House. Unless they are planning on declaring voting in November illegal, what can they possibly be thinking?

Posted by: Bill MItchell at January 27, 2010 02:59 PM (kEBiX)

104 I don't think anybody's gonna be sober enough for liveblogging. Even if you only drank on the "let me be clear" and the "some say," you'll be in the hospital before the speech is over.

Posted by: Griff at January 27, 2010 03:00 PM (MKyfs)

105
I'm not in the mood to hear Obama's same old bullshit.

And I'm certainly not in the mood to see/hear Republicans stand and applaud President Inherit.

Our republic is being destroyed and the buffoons in the Republican party are sitting on their thumbs.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 03:00 PM (k9Ti8)

106 Zinn Obit, linked from Big Hollywood.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2010 03:00 PM (I/MqP)

107 LIVE BLOG!! Let us get warmed up to Fisk this piece of shit.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 27, 2010 03:01 PM (CZI81)

108 I'm not sure if i want to go-out-on-a-limb and comment, i might have to rescind it tomorrow.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2010 03:01 PM (7FgWm)

109 Howard Zinn is dead

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:01 PM (pGELo)

110
Zinn is dead? Good.

I was just thinking about that asshole today. I picked up a booktoday and it was spoiled because it had his review on the back cover.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 03:02 PM (k9Ti8)

111 The HuffPo drinking game rules are pretty hilarious, but my already-compromised liver probably can't take it.

"If you've lost HuffPo and Stewart...."

Posted by: jakeman at January 27, 2010 03:02 PM (k/h/i)

112 I have come to chew bubblegum and fuck chickens.....and I'm all outta bubblegum.

Posted by: "Rowdy" Benny Nelson at January 27, 2010 03:02 PM (zxrQh)

113 Mmmm buffalo wings and beer

Posted by: dananjcon at January 27, 2010 03:02 PM (IzSEu)

114

For real.

http://tinyurl.com/yed8b5d

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:03 PM (pGELo)

115 We know what's best for you people. Trust me on this...

Posted by: Nancy "botoxicated" Pelosi at January 27, 2010 03:03 PM (Vu6sl)

116

Howard Zinn is dead

Matt Damon!

Posted by: Matt Damon at January 27, 2010 03:03 PM (kJLH9)

117 "I'm starting to think the Democrats (the ones in the loop) are not at all worried about this November." They are now, Obama, liberal demographics, good turnout on college campus and tons of special interest money and the still lost in Mass with Brown winning going away. Add in the campaign finance reform decision which will equal the playing field somewhat and the Dems are scared shitless. They have no clue what to do. They can't move center, there is no more room on the left to move and they can't pass their agenda. They are screwed and their only hope is that voters forget before Nov. That is why they look cool, they are laying low and praying for a miracle.

Posted by: Just Another Poster at January 27, 2010 03:04 PM (NgoAe)

118

Unless they are murderers, rapists or pedophiles, I'm not happy when someone dies.

Dreading the fawning obits he will receive, though.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:05 PM (pGELo)

119 Come to the field, Ben. Come to the field

Posted by: Children of the Corn at January 27, 2010 03:06 PM (wPZU5)

120 121 wifey to me:

We can't play. This is their disclaimer:

NOTE: The Huffington Post in no way encourages binge drinking. This is the comedy section. If you actually drank as much as we suggested you would die, so do not do that.

details, details, set the limit to 6 pack.

Posted by: sTevo at January 27, 2010 07:05 PM (eA3tl)

They obviously never watched Animal House.

Posted by: conscious and ready to go at January 27, 2010 03:07 PM (Vu6sl)

121 So....Are we liveblogging tonight's STFUOTU presentation?

You may be, I'll be livetweeting sorting my sock drawer.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 27, 2010 03:08 PM (wPZU5)

122 I love chicken! I mean I really love chicken!

Posted by: Ben Nelson at January 27, 2010 03:09 PM (zgZzy)

123 undeadundeadundead

Posted by: Peter Murphy at January 27, 2010 03:09 PM (hCQG5)

124 wifey to me:

We can't play. This is their disclaimer:

NOTE: The Huffington Post in no way encourages binge drinking. This is the comedy section. If you actually drank as much as we suggested you would die, so do not do that.

details, details, set the limit to 6 pack.

Posted by: sTevo at January 27, 2010 07:05 PM (eA3tl)

They obviously never watched Animal House.

THEY TOOK THE BAR!!!!!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2010 03:09 PM (I/MqP)

125 Unless they are murderers, rapists, communist scum, or pedophiles, I'm not happy when someone dies.

FIFY.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 27, 2010 03:10 PM (wPZU5)

126 I hope that every time this double dealing fuck leaves his house, his constituents tell him loudly and rudely just what they think of him.

Posted by: Warden at January 27, 2010 03:12 PM (QoR4a)

127 Oh, lookie here. From the AP:

A day after delivering a State of the Union address aimed at showing recession-weary Americans he understands their struggles, President Barack Obama intends to award $8 billion in stimulus funds to develop high-speed rail corridors and sell the program as a jobs creator.

He's definitely doubling down on teh stupid.

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 03:13 PM (9Wv2j)

128

Someone ought to attach one of those remote controlled fart machines to the underside of Pelosi's chair and everytime she leaps to her feet hit the button. I would love to see the expression on Obama and Biden's face.

Posted by: conscious and ready to go at January 27, 2010 03:13 PM (Vu6sl)

129 75 -

The old school democrats have finally figured out that their party has been hijacked and is on a legislative jihad.

Though that just means Nancy, Harry and Barry will stuff this POS down our throats at some point this year...

Posted by: phreshone at January 27, 2010 03:15 PM (1AnxB)

130
Everything the Democrats do is a job-creator!

Repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell will be a job-creator.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 03:15 PM (k9Ti8)

131 FNC just reported that Obama will call on Congress to repeal "don't ask don't tell" at SOTU.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 06:51 PM (pGELo)

Yes, because that's what first and foremost on the minds of all Americans. Sheesh...

Posted by: Tami at January 27, 2010 03:16 PM (VuLos)

132

Hi Peaches.

President Barack Obama intends to award $8 billion in stimulus funds to develop high-speed rail corridors and sell the program as a jobs creator.

Right. In about five years....for unions.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:16 PM (pGELo)

133 Zinn is dead and erg goes quiet .

Are you crying ergie ?
There's no crying in politics .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 27, 2010 03:17 PM (wb68R)

134 Hi, loppyd! It's only $8 billion and, hey, people everywhere are just clambering for more train service.

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 03:19 PM (9Wv2j)

135

Tami

Yep. I'm sure all of the funemployed will sit right up in their seats over it.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:19 PM (pGELo)

136 FNC just reported that Obama will call on Congress to repeal "don't ask don't tell" at SOTU.

Seriously, did he learn nothing from Clinton's first term? No wonder Hillary is out of the country-she's too embarrassed to be seen with him.

Posted by: Methos at January 27, 2010 03:19 PM (Xsi7M)

137

oh yeah, that dipping your nads in toothpaste thing i suggested?

dont do it.it hurts like hades.

Posted by: davey- at January 27, 2010 03:19 PM (DfiBV)

138 #104 Wow. He did what he did well. I remember two of his lectures at BU. Wrong but not bad.

Posted by: Art Linkfinder at January 27, 2010 03:19 PM (s2TC6)

139
What does Hillary know and why is she sitting out the STFU addy? Maybe she'll be on here with us playing the drinking game.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 27, 2010 03:19 PM (rGB9a)

140 He's definitely doubling down on teh stupid.

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 07:13 PM (9Wv2j)

Hit me!

Posted by: B. H. Obama at January 27, 2010 03:20 PM (CZI81)

141

oh yeah, that dipping your nads in toothpaste thing i suggested?

dont do it.it hurts like hades.

Mintay!!

Posted by: Andi at January 27, 2010 03:20 PM (CZI81)

142 "FNC just reported that Obama will call on Congress to repeal "don't ask don't tell" at SOTU." Obama trying to win Hillbuzz back?

Posted by: Just Another Poster at January 27, 2010 03:21 PM (NgoAe)

143 147, how about Don't spend, Don't lie. Or Don't Socialize.

Posted by: Art Linkfinder at January 27, 2010 03:22 PM (s2TC6)

144

He's trying to get the Village People to reunite?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 27, 2010 03:22 PM (rGB9a)

145 Yep. I'm sure all of the funemployed will sit right up in their seats over it.

I am delighted to be unemployed for the rest of my life, if only gays can serve openly in the military. Can I cast an early vote for 2012 yet?

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 03:23 PM (9Wv2j)

146 In related news, Drudge has in red that Hillary! will not be at the State of the Union Address.

Asked to comment, the Ghost of Socks the Cat said, "Bitch ain't stupid, ya dig?"

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 27, 2010 03:24 PM (CZI81)

147

Peaches I have been dying to catch up with you. Remember the adorable little girl on stage with Scott Brown during his acceptance speech? Turns out she is my niece's good friend and classmate! My brother said his daughter kept talking about this big party that her friend was going to in Boston for her uncle. Brother picks up the paper the next day and there she is on the front page.

He visited their class (in NH) on Monday and had a picture taken. No telemprompters were present.

How cool is that?

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:25 PM (pGELo)

148 He's trying to get the Village People to reunite?

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 27, 2010 07:22 PM (rGB9a)

There's not enough garden hoses in the world to break us up.

Posted by: Construction Worker, Indian Chief, and Police Officer at January 27, 2010 03:25 PM (CZI81)

149
She's putting as much distance as she can between her and the stench of this administration.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 27, 2010 03:25 PM (rGB9a)

150 More fabulous news about where that $8 billion for high-speed rail will be going (hint: mostly overseas):

Because the U.S. has never had the kind of bullet trains found in Europe and Asia, there are no U.S. engineering companies or manufacturers with experience in high-speed rail. Anthony Perl, who heads the National Research Council's panel on intercity passenger rails, said that means much of the technology will have to be purchased abroad.

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 03:26 PM (9Wv2j)

151 loppyd, do you ever watch a Boston morning show on Fox with a Kim Carrigan as host?

Posted by: Tami at January 27, 2010 03:27 PM (VuLos)

152 Pelosi and the hard lefties know, the longer this thing drags out, the closer these guys get to November, the less likely they are to give up their career for her aspirations of socialism. The vast majority of that body is definitely "get elected first" motivated. And as those polls get worse and worse and worse, and scrap the whole thing and start over becomes more and more popular, her votes, hell, for even ongoing speakership will dwindle until they no longer meet that magic minimum. But the parlimentarian is right to be worried. Amend a bill passed but not law? That ought to be done in regular debate, not as a reconciliation measure. Otherwise we could reconcile national hug a tree day with welfare reform. Deficit reduction eh? eh?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 27, 2010 03:27 PM (0q2P7)

153 152 loppyd, that is so cool!

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 03:28 PM (9Wv2j)

154 Do we all agree that a Democrat-controlled federal government is like letting kids run free in a candy shop? If you disagree, please state your well-thought reasons. I'm sure this blog is open to productive, curtious discussion. Once done, this blog is open to letting rabid morons tear your fucking throat out. Thank you.

Posted by: Miss Manners at January 27, 2010 03:28 PM (gbCNS)

155

Sometimes, Tami. I can't stand her co-host, Gene the weasel Lavanchy.

How come?

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:28 PM (pGELo)

156 138 Zinn is dead and erg goes quiet .

Are you crying ergie ?
There's no crying in politics .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 27, 2010 07:17 PM (wb68R)

I don't know if you saw the comment at #73 before it got trollbusted, but it was ban-worthy.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at January 27, 2010 03:28 PM (IoUF1)

157 Peaches I will email you the pic.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 03:29 PM (pGELo)

158 Well, I'm showing my age but she was my neighbor growing up in St. Louis. I babysat for her and her little sister.

Posted by: Tami at January 27, 2010 03:29 PM (VuLos)

159 104 OT: Howard Zinn is dead.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I want to react to that news.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2010 06:59 PM (I/MqP)

Death is just an artificial construct of the imperialistic military-industrial complex.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 03:31 PM (T0NGe)

160 Oh, goodie! I'll look forward to seeing it, loppyd.

Posted by: Peaches at January 27, 2010 03:32 PM (9Wv2j)

161 92 FNC just reported that Obama will call on Congress to repeal "don't ask don't tell" at SOTU.

Posted by: loppyd at January 27, 2010 06:51 PM (pGELo)

That's some funny populism that there Obama fella's peddlin' doncha think?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 03:39 PM (T0NGe)

162 Seriously? DADT? Why doesn't he just nominate Zoe Baird while he's at it?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 03:40 PM (T0NGe)

163 What's with the link to plumline? Never heard of them, but after wading through a prancing leftard cesspool of wanton ignorance in the comments section, I'm in need of an acid bath.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 27, 2010 03:47 PM (U37Ux)

164

As Agnostica says, "Nelson already slit his own throat."

He's already not going to be re-elected, running slightly behind in the polls against "Random Child Molestor" and even with "Turtle Spit." In his defense, if he runs against "Steaming Pile of Warm S---" he is projected to win by 4 points. But I doubt Ron Paul will move to Nebraska just to run against Nelson.

He'll take one for his team and hope for an appointment somewhere so Obama can demostrate how he takes of his own, Chicago style.

Posted by: Steve O at January 27, 2010 03:53 PM (8Wqsa)

165 Pelosi, oh Pelosi don't throw me in the BRIAR PATCH!

Posted by: Steve O at January 27, 2010 03:55 PM (8Wqsa)

166 Oh, GOOD - Hotair is reporting our illustrious "president" has decided to cancel the Constellation program and pretty much put America out of the manned space exploration business altogether. No return to the Moon, hell, no return to orbit. We can sit back and watch China and India do all that high-speed stuff. Fucking ASSHOLE. That's YOU, Obama - Idiot Man Child!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2010 03:59 PM (QECjC)

167

They are who we thought they were! They ARE who we thought they were...AND WE'RE NOT GONNA LET 'EM OFF THE HOOK!

Benny and Evan and Russ and Patty and Babs, all standing on the ledge, looking down...

JUMP! JUMP! JUMP! JUMP! JUMP!

Has it occured to Johnny Ketchup that Scott Brown got elected in the same state he has to seek re-election in in a few short years yet?

Does Joe Leiberman realize what happens in Mass. can just as easily happen in Connecticut and that, perhaps the main reason Rich Blumenthal enjoys his current poll numbers is due entirely to the fact that he hasn't staked out a position on ANY issues yet?

2012 approaches, Joe...last time around, you got in on the votes of indies and damn near every Republican in the state voting for you. Something to think about, Champ...

These dopes don't slow down for anything. They just throw open the throttle and cut the break lines even with the sharp turn in sight.

It's gonna be a spectacular crash...

Posted by: SuperCool at January 27, 2010 04:00 PM (DRsTV)

168 > From here on in, all pizza will be by home delivery for Ben Nelson. He'd better check it carefully to be sure "garlic butter" didn't spill on it.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at January 27, 2010 04:04 PM (bSzpw)

169 Nelsons's toast, electorally, so he has to toe the party line in order to get an ambassadorship now.

Posted by: Toaster Oven at January 27, 2010 04:37 PM (T4x50)

170

Personally if I knew the jig was up, I would do whatever the hell I wanted. Apparently Nelson wants to stick it up our asses.

Posted by: kansas at January 27, 2010 05:23 PM (Wwi5M)

171 Hmmmm.

Somebody kill this fucking bill already!

This dead, not dead, dead, not dead, dead, definitely not dead, maybe dead is really starting to fucking aggravate me.

wtf?

Seriously. Are these Democrats so completely delusional that they think people will love them for this crap?

Well just wait until the Bush tax cuts expire. I know all sorts of people who'll be screaming then.

Posted by: memomachine at January 28, 2010 03:53 AM (/+tPT)

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