1 Information wants to be free. Obama's records, anyone? Where's Assbange when you need him?

2 Oh, for the Good Old Days when we hung traitors....

3 Ace, this blog, which stands tall among the United Pajamasphere, is the vanguard of the People's Uprising against the MFM.

4 Just goes to prove an old truism - Nothing good is happening at 2AM.

5 information should be free like Assange's location

6

Norah O'Donnell is hopes he isn't gay because it will give the lumpenproles of america a reason to hate gays because they are so the dumb.

 

or was it contessa brewer. those whores look alike to me.

7 maybe it was Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder like Nidal Hasan.

8 Information wants to be free. Obama's records, anyone?

Nice.

9

He points to Manning's chat logs as evidence he was more of an "information wants to be free" hacker-wannabe than an angry homosexual.

 

 

HEY!  GAY STILL MEANS HAPPY111!!!!1111!!!!

 

10 how was this punk able to get clearance?

11 I don't care what his motivation was: sucking cock or freeing info. His action was treason. Kill the SOB.

12 Finally, well said, Ace.  The MSM can go to Hell.

13

So either the guy is fucking stupid or he is ignoring his training.  It's a public good to get your fellow soldiers killed and put innocent civilians at needless risk.  Fuckhead.

His testicles should be removed with a claw hammer and sown up in his mouth right before he dangles from a rope. 

14 Funny thing, when I first saw PFC Manning's picture, I thought he had his beret on at a rather saucy angle.  My first instinct was correct (I do have great gaydar, though.)

15 I've got some sharpened stakes if you want 'em.  Folks won't let me play with 'em hereabouts for some reason...

16

because another state would just take advantage of the informationÂ… try and get some edge

Because another state no longer has access to it when you make it public???

Ok, he's not ignoring training, he's fucking stupid.

17 how was this punk able to get clearance?

Same rules that allowed the Ft. Hood shooter to stay enlisted and even get promoted?  (I'm asking; I don't actually know)

18 I think the gay/anti-DADT still plays here.

It's nice to say 'information should be free' but to do that you still have to break the faith with your side. How much of a role did his anti-DADT crap play in deciding to screw people he swore an allegiance to?

19

Leaning towards 'freeing' information + pissed about breaking up with his boyfriend = going through with it.

 

20 Lots of famous, influential people went to Hanoi and gave direct aid and assistance to the Communist regime.  None of them were even hassled, not to mention prosecuted and executed.  Why should any wanna-be traitor assume it'll be any different this time around?

21 btw....this is what happens with a pc military.....another example would be the MUSLIM THAT KILLED OUR SOLDIERS AT FT HOOD.....i'm sure that mannings peers complained about him and it went by the wayside because he was a "protected class"

22 heather.......exactly

23 I understand why Manning was not a candidate to be a combat soldier but who gave him access to sensitive material? Clearly his niche should have been handing out toilet paper.

24 If you're willing to screw over your own over a petty self interest, you have in effect renounced your humanity, so far as I am concerned.

Open season, in any sane world.

Someone get me off this rock.  Enough is enough already.

25

I just hope no one trusted Gabe with the AoSHQ private files and informant list.

 

i keed gabe. i keed.

 

 

26 Nope. it's obvious the flame of his teeth gnashing gayness burns with the heat of a thousand suns. Either that or the gerbil's stuck again.

27

i've also learned something new in the thread.

People still use chat rooms? really?

i mean i remember using them on AOL in 1998, but aren't those old hat now?

28 Spies become spies because of MICES -- Money Ideology Coercion Ego Sex. Which of the mice were driving little Bradley's wheels we can't say yet. Yes yes yes. Assange has acted as an intelligence officer and Manning has acted as his asset. They should each be treated as such. Assange's Insurance file will be revealed no matter what -- and NSA has probably already decrypted it -- so he should just be snatched and his Insurance be damned. Manning is just a pathetic tool -- Assange is the real menace here.

29 If information wants to be free, then information about possible motivations is completely fair game.  And I say that as someone who knows damn fucking well the vitriol that will be hurled at "my" side about this.  Yes, it's relevant.  That people may be vicious about it is just too freaking bad.

30 I hope you feel better soon, we all feel bad when you say you feel sick

31

We can bitch all we want, but until bad things start happening to these fucking traitors, their actions will continue.

32
funny how that exchange reads just like a script for an informercial, eh?

Shill: Billy, why do reveal all your money-making secrets in this book?
Billy: Because I want everyone to succeed!
Shill: Thanks to you, everyone can succeed for only $19.95!

33 I wonder if General Casey thinks "it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty" when it comes to this case.

34 Manning: if its out in the openÂ… it should be a public good

The Afghanis who helped us and their families aren't going to see your leak as a "public good".

Hang from a gibbet, jackass traitor.  

35

Sort of O/T but not really if Barry spends his b-day on "Teh Downlow" (from Yahoo News):

" President Barack Obama is heading home to Chicago to celebrate his 49th birthday on Wednesday.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday that Obama's birthday plans include having dinner with friends there and spending the night in his own house in the city's Hyde Park neighborhood.

Obama hasn't shied away from talking about his birthday, noting that his hair is getting more gray and his metabolism is slowing down as another year passes. Gibbs says that while there's no doubt that the presidency comes with enormous physical and mental strain, Obama "greatly enjoys" the job.

Obama is traveling to Chicago Wednesday and Thursday to tour an auto plant and attend Democratic fundraisers, returning Thursday night to Washington.

He won't, however, be with his family, spending his birthday instead as a bachelor."

36 All Americans should immediately stop using the media bastards that are making Ace sick. They should all be closed down and then more Americans would choose to rely on correct and approved news media sources.

37
this dunce thinks he's so adept at point out hypocrisy

38 His motivation in either case seems to be malice toward, if not the US, then at least the armed services. And he acted on that malice in a way likely to spill blood and aid the enemy. Treason is exactly what he did.

39 The classified video of this twerp's court martial and hanging wants to be free.

40 36 All Americans should immediately stop using the media bastards that are making Ace sick. They should all be closed down and then more Americans would choose to rely on correct and approved news media sources. Posted by: denny crane at August 03, 2010 04:24 PM (I+7Zv) Newsweekly?

41

He won't, however, be with his family, spending his birthday instead as a bachelor with Larry Sinclair."

Posted by: runningrn at August 03, 2010 04:23 PM (CfmlF)

FIFme.

42 Sometimes I hate this iPad!

43

Treason is exactly what he did.

 

Unfortunately, the whole concept of treason has become so passe these days.  A lot of people don't even care any more.  They are too busy watching tv or getting their nails done. 

44
Update: Bradley Manning More Hacker Than Peeny-Whacker?

45 O/T:  Drudge says the prez is spending his bday all alone in his house in Chicago.  Rumor has it when he came for the two fund raisers, no one fed him so he had to eat in his hotel room alone.

What is going on here?   How could his family not be around for his bday.  I know MO sent the email, requesting donations and a bday greeting but that can't replace having your loved ones around and a home made cake and candles and a bday wish and a champagne toast, that is irreplaceable.  So why aren't they rushing home to be with him?  They can always to to Spain but he only has one 49th bday party.

I feel bad for him

oh and FBN just said that "the department of the interior is lifting it's offshore drilling ban way ahead of schedule, this is big people"

46 Gibbs says that while there's no doubt that the presidency comes with enormous physical and mental strain, Obama "greatly enjoys" the job.

An early tee time after the weekly wagyu cocktail/house party is a killer.

47 Sometimes I hate this iPad!

Just the sometimes?

48 10 how was this punk able to get clearance?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 03, 2010 04:14 PM (eOXTH)

That thought occurred to me too. Is DADT such a hot button that if someone is living the life of an Oscar Wilde, but they do not openly admit it, that they are now off limits to any further scrutiny?

It would seem that way.

49

(02:23:25 PM) Manning: i like cock. what's the big deal? these assholes don't like it, then watch me and see what I do to them.(02:23:36 PM) Lamo: you don't think they'll overturn DADT? (02:23:58 PM) Manning: i don't know what to think. Obama's such a squishy pussy. ewwwww, squishy pussy. That's so gross. (02:24:15 PM) Lamo: Give Obama time. He'll work it out. Be patient. (02:24:46 PM) Manning: fuck that. give me cock or give me death.(02:25:15 PM) Manning: and anyway, i hate the army. so, i'm spilling the beans ALL OVER THE PLACE! (02:25:39 PM) Lamo: I'm not sure this is a good idea. (02:26:18 PM) Manning: screw that shit! i could go to china or iran and make bank. (02:26:55 PM) Manning: no balls in the face for me, no keeping secrets for them. it's the right thing to due. (02:27:04 PM) Manning: sorry "do". i write so badly when i'm pissed. but you watch. i'll get them the (02:27:23 PM) Lamo: all this for guy-hole? (02:29:18 PM) Manning: hey, im crazy like that

50 I am sick to death of the media deciding I'm not cleared to have certain sensitive information, because I might draw the wrong impressions if I know it.

More of this.  They talk openly about suppressing facts - like when a spree killer happens to be a Muslim - because they decide you're too stupid to draw the politically preferred position that they've decided is the correct one.  At the same time, if Bradley Manning was a Mormon or Sedevacantist Catholic or walked by a Tea Party rally once we'd all know that - and it would be pretty much all we would hear about.  We'd be hearing from psychologists who'd be diagnosing him based upon his 'rigid' or 'hateful' beliefs - and so on and so forth. 

51 Just because I want to shut down Faux News and have all the employees executed doesn't make me a hypocrite, you teabagger!

52 #36  Maybe you should register a complaint with the White House over their crusade against 'Faux News?'

53 MICES , I have a different theory - he was a DICK!

54 Information wants to be in similar information's ass.

55 Well if you read his chat logs with Lamo from this BoingBoing article, there's a pretty strong implication that Manning had a sexual identity issue and perhaps identified himself as a pre-op transsexual. So he was clearly a deeply confused, unhappy person before all of this. I suspect Assange's philosophy merely gave him a higher level rationalization for his revenge against the military.

56 I think they should put both these basturds on a leash, send them out with our guys to check for IEDs.   Use them to disarm the explosives, but don't give them any training about it beforehand.    Put the video on Wikileaks so everyone can see them as they're blown into tiny, little, pussy bits. 

57 I hate MICES to PIECES!!!

58 Bradley Manning is a real "stand-up" guy.  Well, parts of him are.

59 To the Sodomymobile!

60 strong implication that Manning had a sexual identity issue and perhaps identified himself as a pre-op transsexual. So he was clearly a deeply confused, unhappy person before all of this.

Don't we do psych evals of people for security clearances anymore?

61

Well if you read his chat logs with Lamo from this BoingBoing article, there's a pretty strong implication that Manning had a sexual identity issue and perhaps identified himself as a pre-op transsexual

 

Funny, I thought Assange looks like a tranny too.

62
Don't we do psych evals of people for security clearances anymore?

Yes. I do them, as a matter of fact.

What's your point?

63

"Information wants to be free."

After 20 years in Supermax, PFC Manning is going to want be free.

64 Posted by: runningrn at August 03, 2010 04:23 PM (CfmlF) It's hard to call it "on the down low" when Obama will be hanging out with Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, and the Nation of Islam in Hyde Park.

65 All Americans should immediately stop using the media bastards that are making Ace sick. They should all be closed down and then more Americans would choose to rely on correct and approved news media sources.

Posted by: denny crane

 

So. Denny is opposing the Dear Leader? After all, he lashed out at Fox news. And Rush Limbaugh (several times). And the Wall Street journal. And the AP (!) And Rasmussen polling. And don't forget to condemn Sen. John Kerry (D- Tax Haven) who this week complained about the media not doing its job tempeting the wonders of the Manufactured Messiah.

66 The real problem isn't that the Media suppresses the facts, it's that ALMOST ALL OF THE MEDIA OUTLETS SUPPRESS THE SAME FACTS.

If they were treated as industries are, they could be charged with crimes under the ANTI-TRUST acts.

Their being in almost complete harmony whether in what they say or what they don't say, is the REAL CRIME.

It's why they hate Fox News and now The Daily Caller. Those outlets allow the people to see at least some of the reality and thus dilutes the power of the FASCIST MEDIA.

We've seen how they operate on Journolist, we've seen how they operate on Climategate, what other 'Scientifically proven' and 'well known facts' are also constructs of Lying Liberals?

It's not their bias that's so aggravating, IT'S THAT THEY WON'T ADMIT IT that gets my goat. It seems that even THEY know their rhetoric and ideology is perverted and immoral and would be rejected by most folks.

67

Funny, I thought Assange looks like a tranny too.

 

And remember, you can't spell Assange without "ass."

68 47 Sometimes I hate this iPad! Just the sometimes? Posted by: alexthechick at August 03, 2010 04:28 PM (YBXMV) It makes playing here harder. It anticipates your words and sometimes inserts the wrong word if you're not paying attention. Plus no hotlines - stuff like that. For the most part it's a good tool though, IMO.

69

Assange ain't so bad when your name could've been this.

70 68 - Tthat happens to me too Hussein! So, I apologize in advance. Not quite used to typing on it yet

71 It's as if our intelligence agencies don't know what's going on with its own people. He only got caught because of this 'Lamo' guy?! Why is it harder to watch YouTube on company time than it is to commit treason using the military's networks in a war zone?

72 Dammit, you have to look at number 45.

73 All Americans should immediately stop using the media bastards that are making Ace sick. They should all be closed down and then more Americans would choose to rely on correct and approved news media sources.

Sarcasm brought to you by the ideology of the Orwellian "Fairness" Doctrine, begging for bailouts for the journalism racket, the Journolist message control machine, and a creepy crypto-fascist administration that routinely rails by name against the one TV network that doesn't fawn over his every putt 24/7.

74 A couple of well placed insurance adjuster Kidon teams should do the trick.

75 63

"Information wants to be free."

After 20 years in Supermax, PFC Manning is going to want be free.

Posted by: Dirk Diggler at August 03, 2010 04:38 PM (jmf9+)

After 20 years in Supermax, he'll look like a cheerleader from "The Longest Yard"

76 30 I hope you feel better soon, we all feel bad when you say you feel sick

Posted by: denny crane

 

No worries.  I'm nursing him back to health.  With my mouth.

77 Journolist 2.0, reporting for duty!

Yeah, when they say "we don't coordinate our stories and suppress facts we don't like," they of course mean "you may have caught us but we still have enough power to get away with it, so nyaaaaah!"

Punch a reporter for your momma!

P.S. Information DOES want to be free - Assange's travel plans, the names of the MIT losers who helped Manning, etc. It WANTS to be FREE!

Help it be free!

78 Who gives a rat's ass that he is gay?

He's a fucking traitor.

79

17 Manning had access because that was his job...I believe he was intell; one of my kid's soldiers went through AIT with him.  They do background checks, but if he got the notion to do this after he went through, then there wasn't much they could do to screen him.  And yes, even someone of his rank would have access to a lot of information -- or how to get ahold of it.

Which kinda supports the theory that Pvt. Fuckwit's gheyness was probably the gateway Assange used to talk him into it -- at least imho. 

This does not mean every g/l/b person in the military would do this -- that's obviously not the case because there are plenty of gays in the military, and they didn't fall for it -- but it was probably the way into Manning's confidence.  I also take notice of the dickwad's age...he was the perfect patsy.

Oh well, hope the little fucker gets it good and hard (my two kids' comments: ass raped every fucking day for the full 60 years...with a sand paper condom and hot sauce lube...skull fucked so hard his goddamn teeth fall out from being rattled loose).  Since the bastard isn't going to get shot or hung from the neck until dead, that's probably the best alternative.

80

"I am sick to death of the media deciding I'm not cleared to have certain sensitive information, because I might draw the wrong impressions if I know it."

Hell, yes.

81

78 Who gives a rat's ass that he is gay?

I see what you did there.

82 So the lefty's are whining to wikileaks/assange about a legal team for Manning -- hahaha

83 Where's the WikiLeak-Leak website, publishing realtime images of Assange's location with Google Earth?  Stuff like that?

84 Don't we do psych evals of people for security clearances anymore?

Yes. I do them, as a matter of fact.

What's your point?

Posted by: Capt. Dr. Nadil Hassan

 

And his tippy top clearance was granted by my committee. I went through it. In depth. Exhaustively. For hours. Along with several of my interns.

85 And I recall reading that Manning got in trouble for violating opsec by posting an unauthorized youtube video while in intelligence training. 

86

This Manning guy reminds me of a counter-intelligence analyst I knew when I was in Korea.  He loved to brag about what he did and was nothing more than some loudmouthed idiot.

I took him off to the side on night and told him if he didn't cut it out, I'd beat his ass.  He didn't know who he was talking to and anyone familiar with the Itaewon district in Seoul knows that there are nationals of seveal different nations about and you don't know if they're trying to collect intelligence from some dumb drunken soldier.

87 #81

I wish I were that clever!

88 As for the 'information wants to be free' bullshit, didn't Precious Julian say that they redacted or omitted all manner of things from their release?  That they asked the White House to tell them what to release or not release?

Doesn't sound all that 'open' to me, just like they wanted to release what they wanted to...IOW, what served their agenda.

89 So. Denny is opposing the Dear Leader?

And the week of his birthday.  For shame.

90 Manning had a picture on his Facebook page of him protesting DADT.

91

Doesn't sound all that 'open' to me, just like they wanted to release what they wanted to...IOW, what served their agenda.

 

I have authorized my minions to assign Wikileaks to the front row in the White House Press Room.

92 "Dammit, you have to look at number 45." Why do people do that to their kids? Think people! That said, I'm looking to marry a man with the last name Tenaglia. Our children will be named Jenna & Don Juan.

93 I might have missed it but....where's Manning now?  Is he in custody? 

94

Don't we do psych evals of people for security clearances anymore?

I imagine it depends on security clearance level.  I had a "secret" clearance, and it was pretty much just a background check.

95

I am sick to death of the media deciding ...

... yeah; me, too. Having majored in journalism, I get especially sick of it.

The thing about the news media is that, in theory, they aren't supposed to do anything -- ever. They're supposed to watch other people do stuff, and then the media describe it and take pictures of it. In an ideal, abstract, information-wnats-to-be-free world, the media play an important role. But in the practical, real world, people are people, and too many want to be players.

Have you ever wondered why newspapers' editorial boards, claiming objectivity and impartiality, endorse candidates? And have you noticed that the papers' editors and publishers are involved in every political and economic happening in town, no matter how big or small the town? (Really: I'll bet someone from your local newspaper is on your local chamber of commerce board of directors. Look it up. I'll wait.)

The thing I'm continually re-learning is that the news media are never just the news media. They're an institution with a skin in the game, just like everybody else.

96 Who gives a rat's ass that he is gay?

He's a fucking traitor.

Posted by: NJConservative at August 03, 2010 04:42 PM (LH6ir)

That's true, but the problem isn't that he's gay, it's that his being gay may very well be part of his motivations and therefore should be part of any honest reporting on the issue.  The fact that the MFM are totally ignoring something that is so obviously a relevant fact as one starts in the investigation just goes to show how far the MFM will go to protect any homosexuals and the homosexual agenda - to the point of lending aid and comfort to a traitor, not that anyone is really surprised by that.

Sure, a heterosexual can have a break-up and do the same sort of stuff (like the diapered astronaut), but the relationship, itself, and the circumstances surrounding it would be the object of much attention in the investigation and media reports, as it should be.  Here ... silence.  "Just a guy.  Decided to release secrets.  That's all.  No reason why."

97 Oooo, Ace! This is a keeper.

98 I might have missed it but....where's Manning now?  Is he in custody? 

Posted by: Tami

 

I heard that they're stopping his pay and benefits. So at the very least, he's in arrears

99 93 I might have missed it but....where's Manning now?  Is he in custody?

According to Assange, he's being held in a Guantanamo-type hell unable to speak to the outside world.

100 Jean: "Just goes to prove an old truism - Nothing good is happening at 2AM."

Whoa, now. Let's not go crazy here. There is the ONT... which proves the old truism that an exception proves the rule. And that Valu-Rite is more of a stimulant than a depressant.

101 MFM:  Delivering the news on a need-to-know basis.

102

I heard that they're stopping his pay and benefits. So at the very least, he's in arrears

 

I see what you did there.  Heh.

103

Posted by: WalrusRex

 

Dude! Day #2 on beeper duty. What happened?

104

Yes, yes....GIVE INTO YOUR HATE, EWOK!!!! GIVE INTO YOUR HATE!!!!!

Now you will embrace the power of the Dark Side!

105

yup, just as i expected. no mention of this store on cnn oe msnbc.com.

 

106 OT I don't believe that there exists a single economist who claims economics as a profession with an IQ that requires more than one hand to measure it. And there are a myriad of headlines today that will back my assertion up.

107

Who gives a rat's ass that he is gay?

He's a fucking traitor.

As Ace pointed out, it's a matter of the MSM covering up the fact that he was gay and possibly had gender identity issues even though it seems to relate to his motivation.

 

108

Yes, yes....GIVE INTO YOUR HATE, EWOK!!!! GIVE INTO YOUR HATE!!!!!

Now you will embrace the power of the Dark Side!

Posted by: SGT Dan

 

Or sober up. Same thing really.

109 105 yup, just as i expected. no mention of this store on cnn oe msnbc.com.

 

It's coded "Liberal Eyes Only," you racist!

110 According to Assange, he's being held in a Guantanamo-type hell

Air-conditioning, catered meals, shrink-wrapped gay porn, comfy chairs for watching DVDs, art therapy? 

_{No, not the comfy chair!}

111 Also OUT: publishing data revealing the shady practices and unscientific attitudes of government-funded pseudo-scientists directly influencing public policy    too sensitive, may harm an important American national interest (namely, returning the nation to a subsistence farming lifestyle)

112 O/T: Confederate Yankee is telling everyone to be prepared for a violent revolution to restore liberty. http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/ Interesting article. What do you think?

113

Air-conditioning, catered meals, shrink-wrapped gay porn, comfy chairs for watching DVDs, art therapy?

 

And the lithium.  Don't forget the lithium!

114 dfbaskwill: "The MSM can go to Hell."

We don't want 'em. We're running a fine, respectable establishment here.

115 Air-conditioning, catered meals, shrink-wrapped gay porn, comfy chairs for watching DVDs, art therapy? 

What?  No fluffly slippers?  That is hell.

116

94  What he said -- people who might possibly be needing a psych evaluation don't usually get in the military, much less a position requiring even secret clearance.

And there is no way in hell a psych evaluation would be able to pick up on something like this -- I'm almost certain of that.  It's not like the guy was hearing voices...being a traitorous douchebag is character, not a mental, disorder.

 

117 Air-conditioning, catered meals, shrink-wrapped gay porn, comfy chairs for watching DVDs, art therapy? 

My God, this TV only gets basic cable! You monsters!! You heartless fiends!

/sob

118 Oh, and the article is down a little bit...

119

My God, this TV only gets basic cable! You monsters!! You heartless fiends!

 

I NEED QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY!!!

120

Hussein 106 [professional economists are clinical-level idiots]

Nah, there's plenty of economics professors out there who have brains of their own: Reinhart, Rogoff, most of the authors of The Squam Lake Report, Roubini. I'll admit that some of these people have contracted a love of the camera recently.

I guess the point here is not that professional economists are stupid, but that public economists become stupid. Remember that even Stiglitz and Krugman were sane once.

121 115 Air-conditioning, catered meals, shrink-wrapped gay porn, comfy chairs for watching DVDs, art therapy? 

What?  No fluffly slippers?  That is hell.

Posted by: Tami at August 03, 2010 04:58 PM (VuLos)

http://tinyurl.com/23llnfl

What no cushion?

122

Strictly playing devil's adovcate here; I don't agree with this, but:

Change one word in your sentence on the media and you have that Flock of Seagulls reject's ideology:

I am sick to death of the media government deciding I'm not cleared to have certain sensitive information, because I might draw the wrong impressions if I know it.

 

123 Information wants to be Fabulous!

124 33 I wonder if General Casey thinks "it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty" when it comes to this case.


That Gen. Casey wasn't immediately relieved of duty for that remark tells you all you need to know about our current Army and how PFC Manning fit right in.

125 So, Ace, are you mad as hell and not going to take it anymore?

Welcome to the club.

It's a sick friggin' world when gays, blacks, Muslims and liberals are never guilty of anything, because they are uniformly Good, Kind, Sincere and Noble.

That attitude is not just mis-reporting what traitors like Osama Obama, Manning, and the rest are doing, but is enabling them. Encouraging them.

Wonder why there are no white race-hustlers like Jackson? They probably exist, but they are either in jail or totally ineffective, even if they follow the Jackson pattern exactly.

Wonder why the Traitor-in-Chief has his talons hooked into the presidency? Would anyone else have escaped scrutiny or had his treasonous mouthings ignored the way he did?

What about an effort to build a church in Mecca? Hell, no; decent Americans would consider it a low-class move, and the libs (who support the NY mosque as a "healing measure") would be howling like Pissy Chrissy Matthews about the arrogance of Christians defiling a Holy Place.

It's later than we think. A whole hell of a lot of Americans absorb the shit the media spew out as absolute fact.

Unless this can somehow be changed, we might as well lie back and let the steamroller of political correctness, and the tyranny that will accompany it, roll over us.

126

I give WikiLeaks two snaps up!

127

As for his accomodations -- well, something tells me he doesn't have a comfy chair, and something also makes me think Manning is going to start having problems walking here in a little while...heh, hehehheh, heh, heh...

Hopefully the military decides to start tightening up their intell security a bit better (would have been nice if they'd not have to learn it the fucking hard way all the time).

 

128

Unless this can somehow be changed, we might as well lie back and let the steamroller of political correctness, and the tyranny that will accompany it, roll over us.

 

Way ahead of you, man.

129 And there is no way in hell a psych evaluation would be able to pick up on something like this -- I'm almost certain of that.

Maetenloch suggested that Manning has 'strong gender identity issues.'  Those, I think, they might notice.

But just being a garden-variety feckless crapweasel?  Maybe not.

130

Unless this can somehow be changed, we might as well lie back and let the steamroller of political correctness, and the tyranny that will accompany it, roll over us.

This argument corrie's a lot of weight.

131

that can't replace having your loved ones around

Well, you are assuming family members=loved ones...

132 Homosexuality is an emotional problem. To leave it out of a report about an emotionally motivated traitor is ... aiding and abetting.

133 Interesting article. What do you think?

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at August 03, 2010 04:57 PM (WZFkG)

I think this nation will split.  Then again, I think this nation voted for Suicide by Indonesian in 2008.

But, the nation would not be at this point if it weren't, specifically, for the Indonesian Imbecile and his glee at pushing every un-American, non-American, anti-American policy and attitude he could think of.  It was ony his third-world attitude that allowed this much damage to be done, which almost no natural born American, no matter how left or how much they wanted, would have even thought to do.  Shrillary was fairly easily turned back in her attempt to ram health scare down our throats.  She knew the cultural limits of our legislative bodies and sub-consciously was held there. 

The Precedent has been actively trying to break our system, which anyone with a brain knew that the MFM was going to fully support and champion all the way, and the Washington junta decided to aid and abet him in that, as they saw so many dollars thrown around in the Porkulus they were allowed to write and the other huge legislative elephants they were put in charge of.  The damage they have all done is very much irreparable.

134

Why do people do that to their kids? Think people! That said, I'm looking to marry a man with the last name Tenaglia. Our children will be named Jenna & Don Juan.

Joanie (Oven Gloves), I do believe I love your mind, you magnificent hilarious moronette.

135 There is a long history of pissy gay men selling out their country.

136

125

Unless this can somehow be changed, we might as well lie back and let the steamroller of political correctness, and the tyranny tranny that will accompany it, roll over us.

That's something I can get into.

137 I hope that the pond scum isn't gay.

His punishment will be inversely proportionate to his gayness level.

138

129 Not if he didn't start exhibiting them after basic -- or hell, even after AIT.  Which leads me to believe the gender identity issues (at least very noticeable ones) thing might be off the mark -- again, being a stupid, naive, easily lead dickwad isn't a personality disorder.  Bradley Manning passed a background check and scrutiny of basic and AIT -- really jackjobs wouldn't be able to do that.

 

139

Posted by: WalrusRex

 

Dude! Day #2 on beeper duty. What happened?

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 03, 2010 04:54 PM (R2fpr)

The vast majority of crime is not that sexy.  For any one crime of any actual interest, there are hundreds of, "Dude, these are my girlfriends pants.  I didn't know that dope was in the pocket."

Regarding the incident I wrote about, the victim (the fauxmale) didn't want to press charges due to the sensitive nature of the incident.  He wasn't anywhere nearly as injured as he might have been.  Therefore I was called in to approve an affidavit in support of a search warrant for his house, the scene of the crime.

I later got to know him.  I sent him to prison a couple of times.  He really wasn't a bad guy (at least compared to some of the really bad guys I got to know).  He was just sexually confused with a raging alcoholism problem.  On both occasions that I sent him to prison, the charge was aggravated habitual traffic offender; i.e., driving drunk after a whole lot of other driving drunk.  Last I heard (maybe ten years ago), he was out of prison, on the wagon, and waiting for sex re-assignment surgery.

Because of the victim's disinclination to cooperate, the defendant got a better deal than he deserved.  Although as on-call DDA I had approved the affidavit, I wasn't assigned the case and I have forgotten the details of the plea agreement if I ever knew them.

140

I don't give a flying fig what his damn motivations were.   The scumbucket is a damn traitor, and he should be put against a wall & shot, at the very least.   We all know that won't happen though.   Those in this administration and all their cronies on the left will feel sorry for the little asswipe, and spend more energy trying to figure out how they can help him get over his emotional problems than bringing him to justice.   

Just wait...while Ace is concerned that we're not being told all this pertinent crap by the MFM, now that it's starting to get out, pretty soon that's all we're going to hear about...  DADT and how this probably never would have happened if he could have been openly gay in the military, and after that whether the taxpayers should pay for having his damn dick being cut off and made into a vajajay.   The SOB enlisted for crap's sake.   He knew what the hell he was getting into.

I have no sympathy what-so-ever.

 

141 A reader objects to the prominence I'm giving the gay angle. He points to Manning's chat logs as evidence he was more of an "information wants to be free  .  .  ."


Any time a homosexual does something that is routine and expected in a decent society, it is magnified by the MSM to demonstrate how wonderful all homosexuals are. 

If for no other reason than the sake of symmetry it is important to note prominently and often that Manning is a homosexual.

142

140  I hear you.

For one thing, this isn't at all about gays in the military -- it's about treason.  There are plenty of queers in the services...they don't commit treason, and plenty of straight people do.

That this might have been Manning's motivation -- I'm not buying it completely.  Yeah, it might have been the hook, like I said, but ultimately that isn't what caused him to do what he did...he's just a fucking traitor.  And the MICES are equal opportunity anyway.

I'm not buying the hacker wannabe bullshit either -- by their nature intell people and the like are kinda hackeresque or should be.  That motivation makes them good at what they do.  Doesn't mean they are all traitors or potential traitors.

 

This was a case of no loyalty -- and that's a hard thing to evaluate until crunch time (it is easy however to enforce after the fact -- yeah, I want this little bastard questioned and then dead).

143 Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 03, 2010 05:09 PM (Qp4DT) What interests me is if the country splits, how will it split? It won't be North and South. Will it Balkanize where different ethnicities and religions band together? If it's strictly along an ideological line it's essentially big city versus everything else. Even a conservative state like Texas has leftist cities. Who would the military back? Without clear dividing lines such as North and South how will people know where to go or who is an ally? What civil wars will it resemble? What difference will the huge advances in technology since the last war of independence make on any new war? It's all a very interesting and confusing situation. And sadly, it isn't going to be theoretical much longer if Confederate Yankee is correct. So what I'm really asking is... if I move to Provo and SHTF will I be seen as the other and murdered by cannibal Mormons? Or will it be a safe haven?

144

Strictly playing devil's adovcate here; I don't agree with this, but:

Change one word in your sentence on the media and you have that Flock of Seagulls reject's ideology:

I am sick to death of the media government deciding I'm not cleared to have certain sensitive information, because I might draw the wrong impressions if I know it.

Would it be a problem for you or I to know the names of Afghanis who are cooperating with coalition forces?  Probably not- I sure as hell ain't going to rat them out.

It's a big problem when it becomes public where anyone- including our enemies- has access to it.

The naive, retarded "information needs to be free" crowd doesn't get that, or simply doesn't care that the wrong information in the wrong hands can cost lives.

I wonder how the "information needs to be free" idiots would feel about the content of their own hard drives and cell phones being made freely public.

145 Well , it's not like gay men have ever given up national secrets before .

146 So what I'm really asking is... if I move to Provo and SHTF will I be seen as the other and murdered by cannibal Mormons? Or will it be a safe haven? Posted by: ChicagoJedi

Don't worry.  I feel safe enough.  _{*quickly checks to make sure doors are locked*} 

Anyway, if the SHTF on Sunday or Monday night, we'll be fine. 

Everyone is (conceal) carrying out here, so we'll all be killed in the crossfire in any event.  Why worry?

147 The whole "information wants to be free" thing is a ruse. There was a hacker movement in the late 1990's early 2000's that released copyright material over the web because they felt copyright kept information from the people. Not stuff like what Mannig leaked; but the material of authors and composers.  Supposedly copyright laws oppressed the underclass. On newsgroups you'd see cross posts between literary groups and alt.trostsky.news arguing the matter.  At one point Steve Sterling said he'd like to see the pirates ass-raped in prison for publishing worked he'd literally "sweated blood over".

This is the first time I have heard that phrase used in this context.  The "leaker" philosophy is that if everyone knew all that was going on in warfare then there would be no more war.  That so-called "Transparency Leaks" will shatter states as the people...now knowing the truth...rise up against the state.  It's bullshit Bakunin-esque anarchy.

148 You can run trot but you can't hide My Little Pony.  We will find you and hurt you.

149 Posted by: Y-not, dirty papist living in Utah at August 03, 2010 05:35 PM (5ZZzF) Ha! Thanks...

150 However, a criminal's stated reason for his crime is rarely congruent with his actual reason.

When I was on jury duty, not a single crook ever said, "Well, I wanted the money, and working at a job is too hard."  It was always, "I needed money to feed my crippled sister!" and other such.

151 #96 & #107

I understand that his sexuality may be involved with his treason, but I see it as an ancillary point. The fact is that he is a traitor. He is gay, and may be rationalizing his treason by claiming some imagined grievance against our country. But....I just don't think that it is important.

The reality is that there is no reason good enough to commit treason.

152 144 Good point.  I'm afraid that a lot of this rests on the heads of those in society that think "information needs to be free" and those who think "resistance to the Man" is patriotic -- maybe that's an indictment of our society at large.

153 The "information wants to be free" sounds like a killer defense on "Judge Judy". I too remember those arguments from Usenet and Dalnet. They never made much sense to me. Typically one would argue that "if information was free more people could use it more effectively". Well, like, how to prevent STDs is blasted all over the place and still, here are human after human infecting more humans with STDs. Do they lack information? Or, would they just rather climax than protect themselves? If the information was more free would it be any better? That one ended like most. FOAD you, FOAD everyone. See you tomorrow? Cool.

154 If guy is a traitor it doesn't if he's gay or straight, I don't remember people blaming straights for giving us a long history of married spies.  Personally I don't even blame straights for giving us crime, drugs and poverty (*see i can do statistical perversion).

       For one thing lets remember that all we have is leaked information from the case, none of us seem to know the guy, so trying to pick apart his psyche and have a gotcha moment is pretty pointless.  Tens of thousands of gays work and fight in the military everyday they get shit on and still show up for duty every day lets not forget that in this group hunt for answers. 

155 The issue is not that the gayness; the issue is that the MFM won't mention the fact of gayness, even though it could be relevant, because the fact interferes with their agenda.

156 I understand that his sexuality may be involved with his treason, but I see it as an ancillary point.

Posted by: NJConservative at August 03, 2010 05:42 PM (LH6ir)

I agree with you.  I don't think his being gay had anything to do with his decision to commit treason.  But, it was one of the central facts of his circumstances.  That's all.  No one would really think to omit it, unless they were intentionally trying to suppress it. 

Hetero males get taken by hot spies, all the time.  Sex is very powerful stuff.  Shit, people would still give those Russian chicks some info, for a little play, knowing that they are spies (at least the first one) and they aren't even that hot.  Cute, but nothing outstanding.

157 Fabotage?

158 Gaytorous?

159 It really doesn't matter what his motivation was to me. He downloaded data from secure computers and gave that data to an asshole for the sole reason of seeing it published.

That act has placed numerous people in direct harm's way. Those are both our own troops and our friends who have helped us.

If a single individual is shown to be killed as a result of his actions then he should be executed.

160 "Clive Barker is gay". What!? I guess this explains "The Midnight Meat Train".

161 Is Manning even gay? The "Humanist" angle has more appeal to me. He says he is one which, to me, is an abstract way of saying I don't take a position on anything except that if you're alive you have the right to remain alive unless you choose to end your own life.

162 MICES -- Money Ideology Coercion Ego Sex Sodomy.
Fixed that for you, old sport.

BTW, who's that dashing chap over there at the NYT with the exquisitely-creased pants?

163 "he had a grudge"

That bad old army didn't appreciate his keen and incisive intellect.  A dumb-ass private, being ordered around by stoopid people with brass on their shoulders.

He'll show them who's teh smart one!

164 Spies become spies because of MICES -- Money Ideology Coercion Ego Sex. Mind you, that's 70%-80% of why anyone does anything, right?

165 >>>In my research on google to make a joke, I subsequently learned that Pinto Amadeus (Tom Hulce) is gay, Clive Barker is gay I thought the Clive Barker thing was well-known (assuming you know who he is in the first place). Didn't know that about Amadeus Pinto.

166 If this guy had ever attended a tea party, that info would be all over the place in the MFM.  Whether or not his gayness motivated his treason, he needs to be swinging from the end of a rope over it.  Period.

167 With regard to this traitor: 1.) gallows 2.) noose 3.) PROFIT! Hang the cur.

168
Want to see the MFM turn against Wikileaks? Have them publish Obama's college scores. Or his records from law school. Or information who actually paid for his education. Or his goddamned birth certificate - and no, I'm not a birther, but it would amuse me greatly to see it leaked. Or the records of his travel abroad. Or, hell, anything else that The One wants kept hidden. On that day, the MFM, that bastion of openness and enlightenment, would see them shut down in a picosecond.

You have to remember: we're at war, and they're on the other side.

169 "Didn't know that about Amadeus Pinto." Man, I heard that back in 1995. Carrie Fisher's baby daddy dumped her for Pinto.

170 Well done!

The mighty Ewok awakes from is week long mission and resumes his place at the head of the table!

Welcome back Ace, we still doing the value rite.

171

I agree with you.  I don't think his being gay had anything to do with his decision to commit treason.  But, it was one of the central facts of his circumstances.  That's all.  No one would really think to omit it, unless they were intentionally trying to suppress it. 

Hetero males get taken by hot spies, all the time.  Sex is very powerful stuff.  Shit, people would still give those Russian chicks some info, for a little play, knowing that they are spies (at least the first one) and they aren't even that hot.  Cute, but nothing outstanding.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 03, 2010 06:12 PM (Qp4DT)

From what I recall, there is a long history of homosexuals becoming traitors. Call it a tendency. People try to dismiss it, but it is there. I used to have a book which covered this, but I haven't seen it in years. Suffice it to say, for Heterosexuals to turn traitor in equivalent ratios to their homosexual brethren, they would have to be something like ten times the current level of magnitude. 

Does no one recall the Cambridge club in England?