April 09, 2010

US Military Surgeons in Afghanistan Successfully Remove Incendiary Round
— Dave in Texas

From an Afghan National Army soldier's skull.

The 2.5-inch unexploded ordnance became lodged in the patient's scalp during an improvised explosive device attack. But when the patient arrived for treatment, doctors thought it was only a piece of scrap metal, the Air Force reported.

"Initially, I thought it was a spent end of some sort of larger round," Lt. Col. Anthony Terreri, the radiologist at the Craig Joint Theater Hospital who checked the patient's CAT scan, told the Air Force.

They removed the people they could, the rest donned protective gear and risked themselves to save him.

It reminded me of this story, some of you know it. (Then) Captain John Oh and his surgical team, and an NCO trained in explosive ordnance removal carefully withdrew an RPG from the side of a soldier from the 10th Mountain Division in Iraq. And he survived his wound.

I never really know how to acknowledge this kind of dedication and courage, except to tell people about it. I hope it's something. I know it's not enough.

*not trying to avoid naming the branches of service involved, it's not apparent to me from the stories if they were Army or Air Force. Which doesn't matter in terms of their amazing service, just in terms of me giving appropriate acknowledgement.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 05:17 PM | Comments (92)
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1 Maybe a 14.5 MM HEI round?

Posted by: steevy at April 09, 2010 05:20 PM (1xJJS)

2 USA military people are the greatest people on earth.

Posted by: Ronster at April 09, 2010 05:22 PM (Xu6d3)

3 2 USA military people are the greatest people on earth.

Posted by: Ronster

I cannot add to that.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 09, 2010 05:24 PM (4YN/C)

4
Our team rocks.
Thanks, Drew.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 09, 2010 05:25 PM (0fzsA)

5 Absolutely amazing.

Posted by: Joshua Kahn at April 09, 2010 05:26 PM (91phQ)

6 This is the type of brave and selfless action that is commonplace in our military. Unfortunately the recipient of this act of kindness and bravery probably wouldn't think twice about fragging the entire medical crew that just saved his life if it somehow benefited his personal situation.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 09, 2010 05:27 PM (wQZEw)

7
I'm sorry- DAVE....


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 09, 2010 05:32 PM (0fzsA)

8 There is a large portion of the population that does not deserve the freedom they enjoy, afforded to them by the brave men and women in our armed forces. I won't name any names.

Posted by: Ronster at April 09, 2010 05:35 PM (Xu6d3)

9 Ya done good Dave, I appreciate hearing about this story, and it makes me feel proud to be an American.

Semper Fi

Posted by: Leatherneck at April 09, 2010 05:42 PM (40yOy)

10 God bless our military!  They got awesome talent, dedication, and bravery!!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 09, 2010 05:45 PM (c0A3e)

11 I never really know how to acknowledge this kind of dedication and courage, except to tell people about it.

Since 2001, I've paid the bills of dozens of servicemen and women in the line at convenience stores, grocery stores, and gas stations.  What I do is sidle up and before they can react, I say, "Your money's no good here" and slap down the cash or credit card.

The first time I did it I felt like a total smarmy dork, but it got easier. Now it's second nature. They're always surprised and pleased.

I once bought an older man's purchases in line at a 7-11, because his jacket said "USMC" on it. He thanked me, so I thanked him for his service. He was a Vietnam vet and said it was the first time in his life anyone had ever thanked him.

We need to make sure the veterans of the two current wars don't have that experience.

Posted by: Llarry at April 09, 2010 05:45 PM (o/pqQ)

12 #11  That's awesome Llarry.  Kudos to you.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 09, 2010 05:52 PM (c0A3e)

13 Llarry. I give to military charities, but your personal touch sounds like a better way to go. You actually get to see the person you are helping. Awesome.

Posted by: Ronster at April 09, 2010 05:56 PM (Xu6d3)

14 Llarry, good for you. I love people like you, your a great American.

Posted by: Leatherneck at April 09, 2010 05:58 PM (40yOy)

15 Sad news: 4 Americans killed in first operational crash of Osprey in Afghanistan.  Jerusalem Post story.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 09, 2010 06:05 PM (r1h5M)

16 Just goes to show that you don't necessarily have to tote a gun to have balls.

Posted by: GarandFan at April 09, 2010 06:11 PM (6mwMs)

17 The thing that amazes me is that the medics would have done exactly the same thing if the wounded man was a Taliban. Who else would do such a thing? Death itself is their enemy. And THAT makes me proud to be an American.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 09, 2010 06:16 PM (wQZEw)

18 Should have linked The Sun article - not as much anti-military propaganda links there.

Posted by: Druid at April 09, 2010 06:19 PM (Oe01r)

19

This is truly amazing but not surprising.  Our military is the best.

Posted by: huerfano at April 09, 2010 06:21 PM (gLSaO)

20 What, no flaming skull?

Posted by: alexthedude [via his non-fascist N1] at April 09, 2010 06:24 PM (W4TMs)

21 I'm out of here. God bless the USA. Maybe the country can still be saved. I sure hope so.

Posted by: Ronster at April 09, 2010 06:25 PM (Xu6d3)

22 Test URL thingy

Posted by: alexthedude [via his non-fascist N1] at April 09, 2010 06:27 PM (W4TMs)

23

Here in cattle country in Hawaii we don't see many military.

BUT having lunch way up north I bought 4 Marines breakfeast so they wouldn't know who did it...funny, I couldn't buy lunch there again, never got a bill.

Marines are my brothers (you too babes in Green) but the US military are the finest and God Bless them

SF

Posted by: Serfer62 at April 09, 2010 06:29 PM (HLCnI)

24 Llarry, what a great story! The first time I went up to a service person and shook their hand and thanked them for their service I felt like a total doofus. But seeing the surprised smile on his face was a memory I will never forget. I do it now when ever I can, it just puts a big ol smile on my face.

I hate what the Viet Nam vets came back to. I'll be sure to start looking out for them. After all, one of them was my dad.

Posted by: Mrs. Compton at April 09, 2010 06:49 PM (NaJ/S)

25 Hey you cheap assholes, buy your advertising...

Posted by: Serfer62 at April 09, 2010 06:50 PM (HLCnI)

26 Oh and thanks Dave, for sharing this with us. I'm so damn proud of our service men and women. They put those tards in congress to shame for their lack of duty.

Posted by: Mrs. Compton at April 09, 2010 06:50 PM (NaJ/S)

27 OK, it's not as risky as the RPG removal was. If a 14.5mm doesn't go off on impact, it's probably not going to go off at all. Its explosive-incendiary filler is set off by impact, it doesn't have a fuze assembly in it that can change its mind about not working like a RPG fuze sometimes does.

Still gutsy though. Because you never know what you have for sure until you pull it out.

Posted by: SGT Dan at April 09, 2010 07:21 PM (L0IJJ)

28 There's more honor in that OR than in all of Congress.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at April 09, 2010 07:29 PM (6nNIh)

29 What 28 said. Semper Fi!

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 09, 2010 07:33 PM (S1Ttj)

30 Lucky guy.

Posted by: rawmuse at April 09, 2010 07:37 PM (OQ3LO)

31 I'm sorry, not lucky that the soldier was wounded, but lucky that he had such care. In other times this would almost certainly have been a fatality.

Posted by: rawmuse at April 09, 2010 08:00 PM (OQ3LO)

32

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Posted by: Charlie Johnson at April 09, 2010 08:33 PM (90oki)

33

What, no flaming skull?

That is kind of the point, Alex.

Posted by: Grey Fox with sharp little teeth at April 09, 2010 08:35 PM (FTx5X)

34

I am so happy that this incredible feat of surgical skill was performed BEFORE the whole Obamacare BS got implemented.  'Cause next year this would never get done.

 

Thank God for all the dedicated hard working service providers in our military services who care for everyone who needs it!

Posted by: NC Ref at April 09, 2010 08:38 PM (+9SFO)

35  http://tinyurl.com/y494kpoRemoval of unexploded ordnance from patients: A 50-year military experience and current recommendations

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 09, 2010 08:39 PM (d1FhN)

36 Checked for new posts just before getting ready to turn in and found this.  Awesome!

God bless the men and women of the United States military! 

Posted by: Theresa D at April 09, 2010 09:05 PM (iGCmo)

37 What an amazing story.  Interesting how so many think of the other person before themselves.

On a sad note breitbart is saying they have found the remaining bodies of the miners bringing the death toll to 29.  May they rest in peace.

Posted by: curious at April 09, 2010 09:22 PM (p302b)

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Posted by: sdfsadf at April 09, 2010 09:24 PM (dzASn)

39 Wow!  I wonder what was the SPAM magnet?

As you all know, once Obammycare takes full effect, you will never hear heartwarming stories like these.  Operations/surgeries requiring the guts and skills as noted above will be reserved for suicide bombers (the bastards!)

Obama can give a flying eff for anyone other than his constituencies (which may not necessarily even include his own family)

Posted by: flodigarry at April 09, 2010 09:26 PM (MdJdb)

40 My first reaction was to hope that the 2.5" was the length of the UXO, not the width, along with the mental image of someone with a mortar shell stuck in their scalp. And then it was pride in our guys for saving this guy's life despite the risks.

Posted by: Cybrludite at April 09, 2010 09:30 PM (GDpMq)

41 There's more honor in that OR than in all of Congress.

Damn straight.  And I will include a lot of Repubics in that equation as well.

Goes to show that no matter how gutless our so called "leaders" are - the dignity, courage, and integrity or our military forces will always prevail in spite of - not because of- our civilian leadership.

Posted by: Cheri at April 09, 2010 09:46 PM (llSaz)

43 Polish President Lech Kaczynski 'in plane crash'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8612825.stm

Posted by: fb at April 10, 2010 12:16 AM (TWPRg)

44

One of my most vivid memories from Iraq is from a night joint patrol with Iraqi police, when we had already been hit once with an IED (which luckily did not result in any injuries, just some damage to one of our humvees) and were heading back to the FOB. We were crossing a series of bridges over several canals near the FOB, and came under attack again from RPG and small arms fire, coming from a residential neighborhood.

I very distinctly remember the platoon leader saying over the net repeatedly, "If you've got PID (Positive IDentification) return fire!", but not one of the gunners fired a shot, for the very simple reason that they did not have a defininite target to shoot at. And make no mistake, I knew from previous experience that these guys had no hesitation whatsoever about turning insurgents into hamburger if fired upon, but this night they couldn't see exactly where the fire was coming from, and they simply were not going to open up randomly on a neighborhood and risk harming innocents.

These young men (and I absolutely detest hearing anybody calling them "kids", they are grown men, with a level of maturity many people will never achieve), even in the face of hostile fire that threatened their very lives, still maintained discipline and refused to put innocent lives at risk. They were and are some of the very best our country has to offer, and I feel honoured to have had the opportunity to be associated with them.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at April 10, 2010 12:45 AM (d7k0J)

45

Where do we find such people...we are deeply indebted to these extraordinary men and women of our Armed Forces who defend us...God bless them all and keep them safe..

JohnT FDNY(ret)

Posted by: BronxBomber at April 10, 2010 01:37 AM (0NKHr)

46 Something to keep in mind:  A lot of those Docs are reservists, meaning they do these tours on top of having another full time job.  We've got a guy in our ED who's been to the Middle East several times (Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom, now in Afghanistan); and a CRNA who's recieved a Bronze Star.  It's amazing work!

Posted by: shank at April 10, 2010 03:12 AM (ZPbFI)

47 Amazing. Every time I see a story like this I see why we have a country that is the best on earth.

Posted by: Vic at April 10, 2010 04:34 AM (QrA9E)

49

"Poland's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Piotr Paszkowski, said there were 89 people on the passenger list but one person had not shown up.

"We still cannot fully understand the scope of this tragedy and what it means for us in the future. Nothing like this has ever happened in Poland," Paszkowski said. "We can assume with great certainty that all persons on board have been killed."



Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 04:53 AM (p302b)

50

Passengers included the president and his wife as well as other top officials. Slawomir Skrzypek, president of the National Bank of Poland, was also on board. Polish Foreign Ministry spokesman Piotr Pszkowski said that the army chief of staff and Deputy Foreign Minister Andrzej Kremer were also on board the plane.

Reports of the number killed in the crash varied. Polish officials put the figure at 88, while Russia's Ministry of Emergency Situations said 96 had died and Russia's Investigative Committee said the total was 132.
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As Sheriff Joe would say . . .

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 10, 2010 05:01 AM (7+pP9)

51 Lots of important people on the plane. From Wiki:

According to the flight manifest on-board were:

* Lech Kaczyński, President of Poland
* Maria Kaczyńska, First Lady of Poland
* Krystyna Bochenek, Deputy Speaker of the Senat
* Bishop Mirosław Chodakowski, Orthodox Ordinary of the Polish Army
* Leszek Deptuła, member of the Sejm
* Grzegorz Dolniak, member of the Sejm
* Janina Fetlińska, member of the Senat
* General Franciszek Gągor, Chief of the Polish Army General Staff
* Grażyna Gęsicka, member of the Sejm
* Przemysław Gosiewski, member of the Sejm
* Mariusz Handzlik, Undersecretary of State in the Office of the President of the Republic of Poland
* Izabela Jaruga-Nowacka, member of the Sejm
* Ryszard Kaczorowski, the last President of the Polish government-in-exile
* Sebastian Karpiniuk, member of the Sejm
* Vice Admiral Andrzej Karweta, Commander-in-chief of the Polish Navy
* Janusz Kochanowski, Polish Ombudsman
* Andrzej Kremer, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs
* Janusz Kurtyka, Historian and president of the Institute of National Remembrance
* Tomasz Merta, Undersecretary of the Ministry of Culture and National Heritage
* Aleksandra Natalli-Świat, member of the Sejm
* Piotr Nurowski, President of the Polish Olympic Committee
* Maciej Płażyński, President of the Polish Community Association
* Tadeusz Płoski, bishop of the Military Ordinariate of the Polish Army
* Krzysztof Putra, Deputy Speaker of the Sejm
* Andrzej Przewoźnik, Secretary-General of the Council for the Protection of Struggle and Martyrdom Sites
* Ryszard Rumianek, Rector of the Cardinal Stefan Wyszyński University
* Arkadiusz Rybicki, member of the Sejm
* Sławomir Skrzypek, President of the National Bank of Poland
* Władysław Stasiak, Chief of the Office of the President of the Republic of Poland
* Aleksander Szczygło, head of the National Security Bureau
* Jerzy Szmajdziński, Deputy Speaker of the Sejm
* Jolanta Szymanek-Deresz, member of the Sejm
* Anna Walentynowicz, free trade union activist, member of Solidarity
* Zbigniew Wassermann, member of the Sejm
* Wiesław Woda, member of the Sejm
* Edward Wojtas, member of the Sejm
* Paweł Wypych, Secretary of State in the Office of the President of the Republic of Poland

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 10, 2010 05:14 AM (7+pP9)

52

"The deaths were not expected to directly affect the functioning of Polish government: Poland's president is commander in chief of its armed forces but the position's domestic duties are chiefly symbolic. The prime minister and other top government ministers were not aboard the plane.

Poland has long discussed replacing the planes that carry the country's leaders but said they lacked the funds. The presidential Tu-154 had been overhauled in December in Russia, officials said.

Poland's parliament speaker, the acting president, declared a week of national mourning."

"Kaczynski, 60, became president in December 2005 after defeating Tusk in that year's presidential vote.

The nationalist conservative was the twin brother of Poland's opposition leader, former Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski. Kaczynski's wife, Maria, was an economist."

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 05:14 AM (p302b)

54 60 ed thank you for posting their names....very sad....and tomorrow is Divine Mercy Sunday...very important day for Catholics but especiallly the Polish Catholics....may They rest in peace

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 10, 2010 05:22 AM (ucxC/)

56

*not trying to avoid naming the branches of service involved, it's not apparent to me from the stories if they were Army or Air Force.

 

Dave, both docs are Air Force - both are from Lackland AFB.

Posted by: Gray Wolf at April 10, 2010 05:28 AM (srBjT)

58 Tragic.My heart goes out to the Polish people.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2010 05:31 AM (tVCIS)

59 61 Geeze couldn't we spare a plane for a good allie?TU-154's are junk and this one was old junk.I wouldn't trust the Russians to overhaul my car let alone my plane.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2010 05:34 AM (tVCIS)

60

"According to the Polish Constitution, in the case of the President's death, his duties will be taken on by the Marshal of the Seign— currently Bronislaw Komorowski who thus becomes the Acting President of Poland.

Former president Aleksander Kwasniewski told TVN 24that “It is a damned place. It sends shivers down my spine. First the flower of the Second Polish Republicis murdered in the forests around Smolensk, now the intellectual elite of the Third Polish Republic die in this tragic plane crash when approaching Smolensk airport.”

From Wiki

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 05:37 AM (p302b)

61 69 Ally even.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2010 05:37 AM (tVCIS)

63 I even numbered my correction wrong.Yeah Poland has not been a very lucky nation.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2010 05:45 AM (tVCIS)

64 So Bromislaw who was going to challenge the President in the upcoming election becomes the president according to their constitution.

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 05:50 AM (p302b)

65 It is fascinating to see the Wiki entry change and the NYT's entry grow. 


Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 05:52 AM (p302b)

66 Russian plane, recently overhauled by Russians, goes down in Russia, and said crash is to be investigated by the Russians.

Did I mention that the Russians consider Polish territory to be theirs?  This stinks.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 10, 2010 05:57 AM (jXyJ6)

67 Am I reading the Times article correctly, despite the crash they had the ceremony anyway?

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 05:57 AM (p302b)

68 Oh, and it happens while President Alfred E. Newman is busy giving away the farm.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 10, 2010 05:57 AM (jXyJ6)

69 75 Russian planes don't need sabotage to crash but yeah I'm sure the Poles are a bit suspicious.They should be but they must be aware they can count on NATO to be worse than useless.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2010 06:02 AM (tVCIS)

70

Was I the only one that thought luck might not necessarily be a fact in the crash?  What with it taking place in Russia, where Putin's unlucky political adversaries have unlucky fatal accidents, and whistleblowers come down with unlucky Polonium-210 poisoning?  Poland and the Czech Republic were recently sold out by Obama with the whole missile shield debacle, so maybe the Czech political mucky-mucks better carry around some lucky rabbits feet that aren't unluckily contaminated with exotic poisons or bugged with unlucky transmission devices.  Just sayin'.

I'll take my tinfoil hat off, now.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at April 10, 2010 06:04 AM (30xKW)

71 O/T:   They just said on the Fox bulls and bears show that the VAT in europe has been great for the MAFIA and the black market economy.  

Too funny.

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 06:08 AM (p302b)

72 A new thread is up.  Do the co bloggers not read the blog either?

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 06:10 AM (p302b)

74 Those planes are crap, but yeah, I suppose I need to make a tinfoil hat because this sounds just too convenient for Putin (and certain groups within the EU).

Posted by: unknown jane at April 10, 2010 06:22 AM (5/yRG)

75 83 They'll never prove nefarious Russian involvement for all the reasons mentioned in 75.

Posted by: steevy at April 10, 2010 06:24 AM (tVCIS)

76 84  But of course.  Now that I've read more about it -- does just sound like very unlucky circumstance.  Apparently the pilot was directed to reroute to another airport, but chose to attempt the landing anyway, after two failed attempts (at least that's the official story now).

Posted by: unknown jane at April 10, 2010 06:29 AM (5/yRG)

77 "Polish president, top officials killed in plane crash 10 Apr 2010 14:14:33 GMT Source: Reuters * No survivors as plane crashes in thick fog in Russia * Central bank governor and army chief also among dead * Poland to call presidential election * President had been due to attend Katyn memorial (Updates death toll, adds Putin flight, detail) By Lidia Kelly"

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 06:32 AM (p302b)

78 From the reuters article linked above:  "Kaczynski, 60, was a one-time ally of Solidarity hero Lech Walesa and a co-founder of the rightist Law and Justice party with his brother. He resigned from the party when he became president in 2005 but continued to support it. A party source said his twin Jaroslaw Kaczynski was not on board the plane that crashed. Kaczynski's death, along with the that of many high-ranking members of Law and Justice who were also on the plane, at a stroke changes the nature of Polish politics by decimating the opposition."

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 06:34 AM (p302b)

79 They still can't seem to agree on how many people perished.  Different sources have different numbers.

Posted by: curious at April 10, 2010 06:34 AM (p302b)

80 From Radio Free Europe's web site Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has been put in charge of a commission investigating the crash, the Kremlin said. Anybody else get a chill down the spine while reading that line?

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