1 Yeah, because the last talks went so well. And the ones before that, and the ones before that.

2 OK.  So maybe he wants some media praise for "trying".  But how would this help with the perception that he isn't a tool for radical Muslim interests?  It's not as if he's going to side with the Israelis.

3 Hey, my comment disappeared! [Cue Twilight Zone music]

4 Yeah,they'll have a years warning.Yeah.

5 Another Beer Summit huh?  Lucky us.

6 Meanwhile,have the Palis ever even conceded Israel has a right to exist?If not,no peace is ever going to be made.

7 Remember according to da reverend wright, Jesus was a Palestinian! The Israelis are too smart to fall for the bullshit but also smart enough to play along...

8

2 OK.  So maybe he wants some media praise for "trying".

Obama is the poster boy for the child who got praised all his life for trying without ever accomplishing a damn thing.

9 Presumably Obama will come out and strongly affirm Israel's right to build settlements?  Especially if there's a strip club or a convenience store nearby?

10 "Peace For Our Time"

11 He really is using the Dhimmi Carter blueprint, isn't he?

12

Problem is intractable, and the only way Isreal can have "peace" through these talks, is to commit suicide.

The proposed borders are NOT defensable.  They not only take way too much land from Israel, but cut the country into parts, where the transportation corridors are controlled by people who want to Kill them.

Add in the very small area we are talking about (you can drive acroos Israel in less than an hour in most places), and modern Artiller and rockets, and EVERY part of Israel would be within Range of Artillery owned by a group whose very founding documents, state the wish to destroy Israel.

Unworkable.

13 Oh boy! Another opportunity for Obama to submissively urinate before Muslims - I can't wait!

14 Problem is intractable, and the only way Isreal can have "peace" through these talks, is to commit suicide. The proposed borders are NOT defensable. They not only take way too much land from Israel, but cut the country into parts, where the transportation corridors are controlled by people who want to Kill them. Add in the very small area we are talking about (you can drive acroos Israel in less than an hour in most places), and modern Artiller and rockets, and EVERY part of Israel would be within Range of Artillery owned by a group whose very founding documents, state the wish to destroy Israel. Unworkable. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 20, 2010 12:34 PM (H+oXM) And that is the optomistic view also.

15

Yup. Considering how precise and accurate our intelligence was in Iraq about WMD, I can't say I have a boundless faith in our knowledge of Iran's nuclear capability.

 And if it weren't such a serious issue, I'd be chuckling about the attitude of "Relax, folks, we're totally on top of this, we have it under control, plenty of time, no problem."

Sadly, I have such little trust in this administration that my reaction to Samore's and other officials' "reassurances", is pondering how the WH spin is supposed to play out here.

16

And, on an aside...

Isn't it funny that Obama condemns Israel for building wholy legal Apartment buildings in its own Country...

Yet the GROUND ZERO MOSQUE (F-U AP) is a local zoning problem?

17 C'mon Drew.. Our intelligence community knows a "slam dunk!" when they see one!

How could you take such a pessimistic view of their ability to forecast the state of Iran's capabilities when they were so spot on with Iraq??

Signed me confused..

18 He doesn't get it. He just doesn't get it.

19 This reminds me, I'm reading a novel by Daniel Silva: "Prince of Fire". It is about Israeli counter terror actions. The target is a Palestinian terrorist who has set off several bombs all over Europe where Jews might gather. His Grandfather was a terrorist, betrayed by another Palestinian to the Israelis because he murdered two of the Palestinian's brothers. He had a son, who also became a terrorist who was betrayed by another Arab because of shit he had done to them. You see, personal honor among Arabs trumps their hatred of Jews. Well, the Grandson terrorist does not want to be betrayed by another Arab, so he murders every one of them when he is finished using them. Does anyone see a little flaw in his logic?

20 Obama is the poster boy for the child who got praised all his life for trying without ever accomplishing a damn thing.

Liberals treat him as if he were a retarded child.

21 Yeah, because the last talks went so well. And the ones before that, and the ones before that.

Posted by: joncelli at August 20, 2010 12:27 PM (RD7QR)

But this time they have me.

22 i hope israel doesn't show up

23 Well, the Grandson terrorist does not want to be betrayed by another Arab, so he murders every one of them when he is finished using them. Does anyone see a little flaw in his logic? Posted by: maddogg at August 20, 2010 12:37 PM (OlN4e) Yes we should give him more amno so he can kill more Arabs

24

Mrs Clinton said the talks are due to begin on September 2 and will be hosted by President Barack Obama. She said she hoped a comprehensive peace agreement can be reached within one year.

 

I predict this is going to be as successful as the attempts made by President Clinton and every other U.S. President since 1948, which is zilch.  By the way, those other Presidents were more respected by all parties than Obama is and the U.S. was perceived to be more influential,  richer, and more mighty militarily at the time of their failed attempts to get Mid-East peace in the region.

25 OK.  So maybe he wants some media praise for "trying".

That participation award will look neat on the mantle right next to the Nobel prize!

26 22 i hope israel doesn't show up

Considering the way he treated Bibi...

I hope the chickens come home to roost.

27

OMFG please PLEASE can we stop living in the land of rainbows and unicorns?

For fuck sake, the Palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE with Israel. Israel can make all the overtures of peace possible and the palestninian scum will find an excuse to refuse the offer BECAUSE THEY WANT ISRAEL DESTROYED AT ALL COSTS.

 

28 How could you take such a pessimistic view of their ability to forecast the state of Iran's capabilities when they were so spot on with Iraq the Soviet Union??

29 Obama and the Palestinians aren't fond of new settlements while those pesky Jews outrageously insist on doing whatever they want in their own country. What magic does Obama have for that relatively minor problem?

Well, I am the Healer of Oceans, o ye of little faith!

30 This fucker has been receiving fawning headlines since 2004. No bracing needed here.

31

Has anyone else noticed the timeframe for Iran to get a nuclear weapon has rapidly dropped since Obama got into office?  Only a year now they say.  Wonder how the Czechs and Poles feel about this?

Cordoba is supposed to have a big event on 9/11/2010.  This summit is susspoed to start on 9/2/2010.  And also Obama is supposed to have a meet with Amadjihadi at the UN in Sept.  Gee after all the kow-towing I bet Obama will take another vacation while Israel and everyone else who loves freedom will feel screwed.

32

Yes, what could possibly go wrong, based upon the respective parties' bargaining positions:

Israel/Jews:  "Please stop killing us and we will live in peace with you and help you build a functioning society and state.  Please?"

Palestinians/Muslims:  "FUCK YOU AND DIE, JEWS!!!!!!!!!!  WE WILL KILL YOU FOREVER AND EVER, ALLAH ACKBAR!!!!!!!!!!! [insert sound of thousands of muslim/arab dipshits doing the imbecilic tongue trill].

33 I don't know why the Israelis bother.  Any agreement made with the Palestinians will be violated by the Muslims seconds after signing.

34 Obie will probably receive a Nobel Peace Prize for... oh, wait.

35 It took six years and an affair before Clinton started doing this.

36

Palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE with Israel.

This. If they would say they do, their actions belie it... but so rarely do they bother saying they want peace. They gripe about their grievances, but so much of their problems are their own or other arabs faults.

Why does anyone care what they say or want? (Complicated answer, I know).

37 Okay Obama's plan to destroy the growing belief that he's Muslim is to spend the months before the November election threatening Israel, demanding they give up basic rights, and give everything to the Muslim refugees in Israel (there is no Palestine). You know it's hard to think of Obama as a crafty leftist when he does this stupid shit. Seriously? When he should be talking nothing but jobs he's going to be battling for Muslims abroad? What's worse is that he'll leave it to Hillary to do it all while he vacations 5 weeks out of 8. Obama, the walking disaster.

38 This is a fool's errand and Barky is just the man.

39 Has opposition to a palestinian state hit 70% in the US yet?  If not I really don't understand bamster's motivation.

40 I can't see how even the most dewy-eyed believer in Obama's divinity could think this will do anything. 

Are they just going to pretend Hamas doesn't exist, and isn't more popular than the Fatah party (and in control of a giant chunk of the territory?)

41 So, if Present Barack Obama has taken on the weighty responsibility of "host", what's Invisible Hillary's job as Sec'y of State? Beer wench?

42 Now we know what Obama's going to try to do with the rest of that stimulus money.

Prepare yourself for another Carter-buys-Egypt scenario.

43 Let's see. The talks result in an offer to give the Palestinians 98% of they want, they refuse the offer, start more violence, Israel gets the blame. Will Zombie Arafat show his ass?

44 It took six years and an affair before Clinton started doing this. Posted by: Cincinnatus, Keeper of Memes at August 20, 2010 I wouldn't call when Clenis did an affair. He used Monica Lewinsky much the same way that I use a toilet.

45 42 I can't see how even the most dewy-eyed believer in Obama's divinity could think this will do anything.

Great photo op, though.  Any chance to admire M'chelle's "guns" is terrific! 

46 Actually, there is some potential benefit in this.  Hillary gets to be responsible (bus bait) for these peace talks that are guaranteed to go nowhere, making her a solid part of the Obama regime's broad record of failure.  Making a 2012 run for her more difficult.

47 Making a 2012 run for her more difficult.

Posted by: Methos at August 20, 2010 12:56 PM (ZgsIj)

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that is actually the real reason for the whole stupid exercise.

48 The Fakestinians already have a state. It is called Jordan.

49 38 That's walking radioactive disaster.  Let's keep the labels straight here!

50 #45  Will Zombie Arafat show his ass?

No.  His ass is mine now.

51 I thought the Cairo speech already brought Peace. Only idiots think there can be a peaceful solution. Total waste of time. Again.

52 Does anyone know where the Joo cave is?

53 Blanche Lincoln about to crash-n-burn, down 65-27 in Arkansas Senate race

54 Given the intractable nature of the problem, I'd say like the guy in the Last Crusade, Obama has chosen poorly.

What? Captain Awesome can't bring peace to two parties that have been at war longer than the wheel has been around? Maybe he bit off more than he can chew? That this might end poorly and end up costing him more?

You see that's where I disagree; I think, like so many of Obama's decisions in *critical* areas, his ideology matters far more than his image. He is just using this peace talk to see if he can't leverage his political clout to further marginalize Israel in the Mideast.

55 Army's final report on Ft. Hood massacre released.  Suggestions given to officers on how to spot warning signs of possible workplace violence.  No word on whether 'Muslim spouting on about jihad' is included.

Developing like a bad Polaroid, stay tuned for the lulz...

56 Ahh heah that Mel Gibson fella's a lookin' fer work.

57 He is just using this peace talk to see if he can't leverage his political clout to further marginalize Israel in the Mideast.

But you are right in the fawning headline thing. The press headline him tying his shoes correctly at this point to prop him up.

58 I hope Bibi holds his ground. It would be great if he either backed out right before, or used it to embarrass Obama. I'm pretty sure he is not that fond of Barry.

59 They should hold the talks over in Fakestine. Leave the secret service behind to save money.

60 This could be a cynical play to bring American Jewish voters back to the Democrat fold, meanwhile the Evangelical Christians are still gonna cling to their guns and their Bibles.

61

Actually, there is some potential benefit in this.  Hillary gets to be responsible (bus bait) for these peace talks that are guaranteed to go nowhere, making her a solid part of the Obama regime's broad record of failure.  Making a 2012 run for her more difficult.

Au contrair, mon ami.  Failure guarantees she quits as Secretary of State and makes a run at him in the Donk primaries in 2012.  She can say that she tried her best but when foreign policy is based on the skittle-shitting unicorn fantasies of a man-child, it was hopless.  She'll re-embrace Israel like her "husband" did and perhaps be our second president with a pussy (after Barak). 

62

Dateline: September 3 2010.

Tensions remain high following the disastrously abrupt end of the Israeli-Palestinain Peace talks. Former Sec of State Hilary Clinton refused to make any comment about Israel's decision to recall its ambassador, or The call by the Palestinian Authority to commence another infitah. Details remain hazy, but the furor seems to have begun at the opening ceremonies itself, which consisted of speeches by both parties and their host, the United States, and exhcange of gifts, and an opening breakfast.Speculation remains whether the menu choice of 'extreme' bacon pancakes may have played a part.......

63 66 Third. You forgot Dhimmi Carter(PBUH).

64 Drew is right. Who really cares about  another pointless peace talk, when you're losing your home and your retirement is gone with the wind. That's really focusing with lazer eyes on jobs there Barry.

65

I wouldn't slam our intelligence organizations so much -- they were right about Iraq (they did have the stuff to make WMDs, and not rudimentary stuff too); they may be right about Iran as well (or this is a false flag). 

As for any peace talks working, I tend to believe that Pali family we know: no it won't; the people in control of the Palestinians are quite incapable of any sort of compromise or concessions of their own (they have been given compromise solutions before that were more than generous -- and they refused them).  They have no problem with killing their own people en masse and destroying their own homes (look at their support of Iran's nuclear ambitions against Israel, what do they think will happen to the Palestinians -- and the Syrians, Jordanians, Lebanese -- in the event?  that should tell you something) -- these are not reasonable (or even sane, by western/humanist standards) people, and they have been in control of the populace for a long time now.

They know the situation far better than I probably do, so I tend to believe them.

 

 

66 13 Oh boy! Another opportunity for Obama to be submissively urinated on before Muslims - I can't wait!

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at August 20, 2010 12:35 PM (CPdUf)

FIFY

67 I don't understand why the Israelis don't just define the borders of a Pali state, turn it over to them, and then declare war on it.

Or stop shipping in fuel, water, energy, giving away free medical services.  If the Israelis stop all those, they would be committing a war crime (or something)

I hope Bibi holds his ground. It would be great if he either backed out right before, or used it to embarrass Obama. I'm pretty sure he is not that fond of Barry.

That would depend on Barry's response to the upcoming Israeli air raid.

68 OFF SOCKAGE

69 Fakestinians celebrating 911. Moderate.

70

I guess Obama is trying out that Reset button the Russians turned down.

 

71 43
So, if Present Barack Obama has taken on the weighty responsibility of "host", what's Invisible Hillary's job as Sec'y of State? Beer wench?

Posted by: t-bird at August 20, 2010 12:54 PM (FcR7P)

AAAAUUUGHHHHHH!!! Need mind bleach for THAT mental picture. Thanks, t-bird.

72

Obama really does think he can walk into a room and make everyone play nice ...  stuck on stupid ...

watch the optics and photos of this meeting ...  my guess is smiles with the Pali's, frowns with the Jews ...

73

Host my ass.

Obama will walk in, tell them all he wants a deal done and he wants it to look good, then leave to get some waffles and tell them to page him in the kitchen when they settle on something.

74 The New York Times has already come up with the final border.
http://tinyurl.com/2v4kbyy

"The broad outlines of a peace agreement are well known and likely to be based on the borders of Israel before the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, with certain agreed-upon land swaps. "

Of course they ignore the fact that this is the exact offer that the Arabs have rejected for the past 40 years. It also ignores the fact that Israel knows that these are "Auschwitz borders"

75

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if that is actually the real reason for the whole stupid exercise.

Posted by: Nighhawk at August 20, 2010 12:58 PM

Not a bit of it. Hitlery is cunning, as well as unprincipled and devious. She has already shoved this mess onto Osma Obama's plate. If it fails -- as it must, unless Israel decides to lie down and die -- he'll get what little blame seeps out around the corners.

If the talks are somehow successful, the small loss of credit won't disturb Pantsuit Woman one bit. She still has the one feature that endears her, and makes her seem qualified to lead, to her "base:" she was born without a penis.

76

To the palestinian representatives, Obama will bow and kiss their hands.

To Netanyahu, Obama will give a box set of MASH Season 3 DVD's.

77 ahhhh another round of peace talks ... what a freakin' waste of time ....

78 screw clinton, screw obama, and screw the pali's ... screw them all

79

I really don't know if these peace talks will give Obama much of a popularity bounce -- except amoung the far left.  I think the "Israeli/Palestinian peace talk" card has been done to death as well.  Only a truly naive and/or stupid person actually believes such a thing could happen -- I mean it does cause for a significant suspension of reason to think otherwise.

In fact, I can see this blowing up (figuratively) in his face.  The Palestinians can be guaranteed to act like self-righteous, belligerent assholes who insist upon themselves and Islam too much.  With the merde mosque, Iran's nukes, and this belief that Obama is a muslim in the news, why would any sane person want to go near this topic?  Odds are more than favorable that it won't end well.

80 #32 is dead on

81

 This time the talks will work.

 I have it on unimpeachable authority that Hillary is bringing a reset button.

82 wonder what piece of shit obama promised the Israelis at this cluster so they wouldnt hit Iran?

83 I have no doubt that our intell people know whats going on and I have no doubt obamas people have nuanced that info to fit their little bullshit scenario

84
“We think that they have roughly a year dash time,” said Gary Samore, President Obama’s top adviser on nuclear issues, referring to how long it would take the Iranians to convert nuclear material into a working weapon. “A year is a very long period of time.”

Oh, so that's okay then.

/

85 Talks on the 2nd of September?  This year??  WTF???  If Israelis attack Iran in the next couple of weeks then Obama will be the only person that shows up.

86

In fact, I can see this blowing up (figuratively) in his face.  The Palestinians can be guaranteed to act like self-righteous, belligerent assholes who insist upon themselves and Islam too much.  With the merde mosque, Iran's nukes, and this belief that Obama is a muslim in the news, why would any sane person want to go near this topic?  Odds are more than favorable that it won't end well.

Posted by: unknown jane at August 20, 2010 01:44 PM

Look what the so-called "Camp David Accords" did for Jimmuh Carter. People were saying "yeah, the man may be a tool, but he did his bit for World Peace.

And Carter didn't have the unquestioning support of the lib media to prop him up. People were (and are) so hungry for Peace that they don't care if Israel has to take the bullet to get it. They just want this out of the way.

Virtually guarantees Osama Obama another Nobel Peace Prize, too.

87 I got me some ... do I get a "piece prize."

88 People were (and are) so hungry for Peace that they don't care if Israel has to take the bullet to get it. They just want this out of the way.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 20, 2010 02:00 PM (Ulu3i)

I keep hearing this, and my response is "so you don't care if the result is genocide and victory of the aggressors, who then are in a position to move on to the next target, so long as you don't have to hear about it any more?"

Usually results in an exploding head.

Liberals will talk about a multi-ethnic society and multiculturalism until they're blue in the face, until the topic comes around to Islam and Israel, and suddenly all the wind comes out of their sails. Suddenly Islamists have a right to exclude everyone not like them from even being NEAR their territory, and Israel is "starting trouble" by just existing.

89 Hey Bibi, here's the deal: if you want any help with your little Iranian nuke "problem" you will knuckle under to this charade while I play statesman.  And if the end result is a new Palestinian state which lobs rockets at Tel Aviv and Jerusalem from under an Iranian nuclear security umbrella, well that's too bad.  I have a legacy to think about.

hugs and kisses

BHO

90 "WestWingWorld. Where nothing can possibly go wrong."

91

Beer and pretzels for the Jews, bullets for the towelheads.

Nice party.

92

92  That was a long time ago too -- how many conservatives are going to buy this (back then some did, or at least wanted to believe), how many independents?  Heck, how many liberals will?  I think it's going to be met with a big "meh", and maybe a little bit of suspicion -- the only people who will be cooing and crowing about it will be his hard core base, with maybe a few wishful thinkers in the mix.  That's what I'd bet on.

Of course, this means the media will be slobbering, but how many people really trust the media anymore?

93

Mrs Clinton said the talks are due to begin on September 2 and will be hosted by President Barack Obama. She said she hoped a comprehensive peace agreement can be reached within one year.

 

Obama and Clinton. Abbott and Costello, striving to attain relevance.

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