A commerce clause claim?

Because drug smuggling and human traficking are commercial activities?

Shirley... you jest.

What's Obama going to do when this law survives his stupid challenge and then five other states immediately come out with their own versions of the same?

***

I would have just sent Union troops and burned the place down.
Posted by: Lincoln

Asked and answered, Your Honor

Methinks its time for the states to hold another constitutional convention.  First point of agreement could be kicking Obama out of the country.  Doing away with the commerce clause could be job 2.

I want the next lawsuit to be:

The 48% v. The Jug-Earred Fuck

so how bad those Obama really want his legacy to be?

pass unpopular bills with no bipartisan support? check

cost dems seats that were solid blue? check

spend and have deficits worse then all previous presidents? check

get low approval ratings faster then the guy you bashed to get into office? check

take cheap shots at reps who already hate you and just pisses independents who believe everyone can get along and are the deciding factors on elections? check

have a Katrina like incident and get ranked worst then then Bush w/ the original? check

apologize to enemies and embarass allies? check

care more about his base then the country in general? check

i'm pretty sure i'm missing other stuff

Hotair is reporting San Franscisco just banned "sugar added drinks from vending machines."

How come THAT is not a "violation of the Commerce Clause"???

It's tough being an affirmative action dictator.

Because drug smuggling and human traficking are commercial activities?

How do you think my country stays afloat?

the lawsuit is officially captioned "The United States of America  Barack Hussein Obama v. The State of Arizona.

FIFY

"As such, the federal government will be required 9 to divert resources from its own, carefully considered enforcement priorities..."

Hmmm, they must meant the carefully considered priority of turning a blind eye while untold millions of foreigners sneak across our borders without us having any idea whatsoever who they are. 

et seq. The INA also vests the executive branch with considerable discretion in

enforcing the provisions of the federal immigration laws, generally allowing federal agencies

to ultimately decide whether particular immigration remedies are appropriate in individual cases.

18. In exercising its significant enforcement discretion, the federal government

prioritizes for arrest, detention, prosecution, and removal those aliens who pose a danger to

national security or a risk to public safety.

Ewwww.... so the case revolves on the idea that the President has discretion to NOT enforce the Law... and that Arizona enforcing Federal Law infringes on his power to NOT enforce the Law...

So much for the Rule of law... and Equal Protection...

anyone saw the Rasmussen senate races' review? states like WI & WA are now toss ups and suddenly taking back the senate is really plausible plus we have more lean reps then 1 lean dem that could easily become a tossup, we're talking about long sitting senators in moderate to solid blue states

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ...

Hmmm...now where have I heard this before???

Ewwww.... so the case revolves on the idea that the President has discretion to NOT enforce the Law... and that Arizona enforcing Federal Law infringes on his power to NOT enforce the Law...

So much for the Rule of law... and Equal Protection...

Yes we know that person mugged you. But we won't enforce because we have to save our resources for more serious crime.

I'm not a lawyer (though I slept with one at a Holiday Inn once, and she was HAWT)...

But this case seems to be predicated on the idea that the President and the Executive branch, have discretionary power over enforcment of the Law?

If this argument works, we are no longer a Republic... we no longer have the rule of Law...

Which, IMO, is EXACTLY what Obama et al wants.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 06, 2010 03:41 PM (QxSug)

And that somehow completely ignoring the enforcement of the law can be considered enforcing it?

Hey...you know what??

FUCK OBAMA!!!

I'm not a lawyer (though I slept with one at a Holiday Inn once, and she was HAWT)...

Did she do your pro bono?

Posted by: dagny at July 06, 2010 03:48 PM (P8ubl)

i'm not sure HA is a bellwhether they were declaring a McCain landslide in the comments and usually end uo having scripture flame wars while their two bloggers troll their own blog, all while Green Room bloggers threaten and ban commenters, all run by a woman who thought Racheal Ray supported islamic terrorists for cocidently wearing a scarf of theur colors as if she knew it was such a thing

USA v. Arizona

Miss me yet?

Not the "commerce clause claim"?

We are doomed!

Posted by: dagny at July 06, 2010 03:49 PM (P8ubl)

Bill Clinton and Bush's legacies are making a comeback thanks to Obama, hell at this rate Carter's legacy will get better

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at July 06, 2010 03:53 PM (lRo37)

17 More AZ laws just like it, and generally looking stupid. Well, more stupid that they already do.

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at July 06, 2010 03:53 PM (lRo37)

We'll have a communist in the White House for at least another two years.

United States of America v. The State of Arizona

The pay per view event of the Century!  Sure, the heavyweight USA is bigger and stronger than the featherweight state of Arizona, but don't count them out on the canvas just yet. 

The USA has the awesome punching power and advantage of reach, but Arizona has a lightning fast jab, and a good dose of common sense.  The federal government?  A big clumsy brawler, where as Arizona?  A true boxer.

So who will win this epic fight?  As with most boxing matches, it depends on whoever pays off the referee the most to get the fix in.

And now, Don King.

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at July 06, 2010 03:53 PM (lRo37)

more states do this and we get tougher on these bastards, costing dems voters

I'm not a lawyer (though I slept with one at a Holiday Inn once, and she was HAWT)...

Did she do your pro bono?

I'll bet she did a bang-up job on perusing his briefs.

Obama makes me look good.

Ain't it grand?

For me, I believe that the 'take advantage of crises' model that prevails in Barry's administration has triggered the unintended consequence that Barry has become addicted to crises. It's a required fix for him.  Like a junkie, he needs a new fix earlier after each previous one.

It's gotten to the point that they no longer even need to take advantage of the crisis du jour.  They just need a new crisis, even if it means ruining the relationship with one of the states.

I'll bet she did a bang-up job on perusing his briefs.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 06, 2010 03:56 PM (P9+0W)

I bet she had his habeus dorkus well in hand...

The nationÂ’s immigration laws reflect a careful and considered balance of national law enforcement, foreign relations, and humanitarian interests.

Gee, and here I thought we were just keeping the backdoor open for cheap labor.

Let me see if I have this straight.  Arizona is being invaded by Mexicans.  Its the Feds job to protect them.  The Feds refuse to do their job because the Dems need more voters.  The Feds use our tax dollars to sue Arizona and force them to stop doing the job the Feds are supposed to be doing for them in the first place.  So the Feds position is bend over Arizona and take it up your wazoo from the invading Mexicans.

Win  or lose, Arizona should tell the Feds, "We are protecting our borders."

Posted by: baldilocks at July 06, 2010 03:57 PM

Unlike Oblahblah, I'm sure Gov. Brewer is prepared for all contingencies..

...they probably have a different draft of the law all prepared

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 06, 2010 03:58 PM (RkRxq)

since he was elected he's declared himself to be not just a great president but a Mt. Rushmore like President, right up there w/ the legacies of (and some not deserved but there up there) of  Washington, Reagan, Lincoln, Teddy R, FDR, & Jefferson, and in his despreate attaempts to have unprecendented legacy making things done he's found himself trying to escape the legacy of the Mt. Rushmore of failure (again this is legacy not actual opinion) that are Carter, Hoover, Van Buren, Pierce, Nixon, & Buchanan

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 06, 2010 03:59 PM (Qp4DT)

Whats interesting is that their argument is based on the idea that the Administration Policy can be one that does NOT enforce Federal Law... thus Policy trumps Law.

Don't know how a lawyer can argue that with a straight face...

Win  or lose, Arizona should tell the Feds, "We are protecting our borders."

And then go on to describe a new and exciting fence that is made of flying lead.

The nationÂ’s immigration laws reflect a careful and considered balance of national law enforcement, foreign relations, and humanitarian interests.

Is that why the government is not enforcing them?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 06, 2010 04:03 PM (77Zbc)

Romeo, did that hawt lawyer keep her backdoor open, too?

The bad thing for AZ is that because Barry is like the 15th greatest president of all time, he has unlimited resources to draw on to attack AZ.

Unfortunately for AZ, they may actually have to pay for their indulgences, even the ones forced on them.

"The United States of America v. The State of Arizona."

...Bring it on, bitch

...Barry is like the 15th greatest president of all time,

Does that make the Gulf/Golf Oil Fiasco one of the greatest Presidential success stories of all time?

Romeo, did that hawt lawyer keep her backdoor open, too?

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 06, 2010 04:05 PM (Iaxlk)

LOL... lets just say, I passed her "bar exam".

i'm not sure HA is a bellwhether they were declaring a McCain landslide in the comments and usually end uo having scripture flame wars while their two bloggers troll their own blog, all while Green Room bloggers threaten and ban commenters, all run by a woman who thought Racheal Ray supported islamic terrorists for cocidently wearing a scarf of theur colors as if she knew it was such a thing

No, I normally hate HA, or actually allah and the whiney commenters.And I didn't mean the comments or the commentators...there is a clip of Jay Leno asking people questions--his jay walking schtick...proving americans (52% at least) are retarded.

Muchas gracias, Presidente Obama

Does that make the Gulf/Golf Oil Fiasco one of the greatest Presidential success stories of all time?

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 06, 2010 04:07 PM (Iaxlk)

For this president - absolutely!

Does that make the Gulf/Golf Oil Fiasco one of the greatest Presidential success stories of all time?

B+, baby!

Joe, hand me the 63^o Pure Spin wedge. I'm gonna lob this over that schlep in the Tyvek suit.

-->Whats interesting is that their argument is based on the idea that the Administration Policy can be one that does NOT enforce Federal Law... thus Policy trumps Law.

Exactly.  It's not only that the feral government is totally incorrect in claiming that Arizona is making "immigration law" (which it isn't) but that Arizona has no right to make the feral government follow the Constitutional demand that it (Art IV, Sec 4):

The United States [...] shall protect each of them against Invasion;

And, as you point out, the feral government claims that they are allowed to selectively enforce law and all states must shut up and live with the consequences.

-->Don't know how a lawyer can argue that with a straight face...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 06, 2010 04:03 PM (77Zbc)

They argue so many idiotic cases with straight faces these days that it's hard to be surprised by this.  Just the fact that Kagan took an intensely pathetic and stupid case to the SCOTUS and got smacked down 8-0, but is still in the running to be put on the SCOTUS, itself, tells us that there is no integrity or reason left in this system.  We have just been overrun by people who have no sense, no shame, no integrity, and no sense of humiliation, at all.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 06, 2010 04:08 PM (iAUf+)

Just doing the kidnappings and attempted rapes that Americans won't do. So I can assume that 18-month-old is the anchor baby keeping his idiot wife here?

You know?  Under normal circumstances, if those charged with enforcing laws were purposefully not enforcing those laws, I might rationally begin to think that there were corrupt influences in play that were acting on the enforcement officials to take a position utterly opposed to their mandate.  Say - making money off of the drug trade or human trafficing.

But that's not possible, is it?

Didn't think so.

Posted by: baldilocks at July 06, 2010 03:57 PM (7qrAO)

Your blog is awesome - just thought I'd say that.

54...and if that is the case we do not have an excuse for seccession

we have an excuse for something altogether bigger and better (never play unless it's for all the marbles...all of them, even the cracked ones)

Let's see how this plays out -- as was said above: don't blink first AZ;  hold fast!

"I would have just sent Union troops and burned the place down."

OMG, ME TOO!

"They get all the women in the blue states."

But only on alternating weekends, and Christmases in even-numbered years.

128 If AZ wins, does it get half of everything

Half of the $14 trillion debt??? Hahaha..they can have it

They get all the women in the blue states

Woof! They can have 'em!

And then go on to describe a new and exciting fence that is made of flying lead.

Posted by: ErikW at July 06, 2010 04:04 PM (jAs+i)

I will gladly support the fence made of flying lead. I recently purchased an AR15 chambered in the .458 SOCOM. No double-tap required.

Posted by: ziptie at July 06, 2010 04:16 PM (ljAGw)

Sorry, we don't have "standing"

The commerce clause ... is there anything it CAN'T do??

It took a red wine stain out of my Berber carpet just like that *snap*

Your blog is awesome - just thought I'd say that.

Posted by: Sharp Knives and Loud Guns at July 06, 2010 04:16 PM (l6isY)

Thanks, though I need to write at it more.  Trying to earn some more money so I can get the flock out of this God-forsaken state (CA).

Congressman Gutierez was on Greta last week and she asked him 'What about eVerify, can't employers just use that so we no longer hire illegals?' And he said 'Flip a coin, Greta, that is about how effective eVerify is. About 50% of it is bad data.'  And these clowns want to run Healthcare????

United States of America vs. Arizona - Hmm, something very scary about the look of that.

If Arizona loses, they should pass a copy of the Mexican immigration law, since the American one they copied is not valid.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at July 06, 2010 04:20 PM (w9bVp)

I think you missed an underlying element in bd's reply.  Just a guess.

Posted by: just dandy at July 06, 2010 04:22 PM (lVK3L)

The funny part is that the Commerce Clause has been totally abused in this whole debacle - not by Arizona, but by the federal government, itself, which has allowed states and localities to organize boycotts against Arizona, along with allowing federal agencies to also boycott Arizona.  This goes to the heart of the real Commerce Clause, which tasked the federal government with stopping exactly this sort of action by one state against another or by the federal government against a state. ... But, the feral government picks the point of their own abuse and blames Arizona, the victim, for violating that law that the federal government and other states/localities are violating in the loudest terms possible.

This sort of crap is why I have no respect left for our judiciary.  There is no sense left in our institutions, at all.  None, whatsoever.

Posted by: just dandy at July 06, 2010 04:22 PM (lVK3L)

Wow.... just wow... I really hope this argument does get to the Supreme Court... because it shows the total Lunacy of the present interpretation of the "commerce" clause....

Thanks, though I need to write at it more.  Trying to earn some more money so I can get the flock out of this God-forsaken state (CA).

Posted by: baldilocks at July 06, 2010 04:27 PM (7qrAO)

I hope you succeed with leaving, and the sooner the better!

I will gladly support the fence made of flying lead. I recently purchased an AR15 chambered in the .458 SOCOM. No double-tap required.

Jeebus! Can you knock down a commercial airliner with that? Or a Space Shuttle carrying Muslims?

Out - Constitutional Government

In - Obama coup d'état  

Current  poll up at  MSNBC site - "Do you agree with Arizona's new immigration law?"

This is a big loser for  Toonces.....

MSNBC vote: (http://tinyurl.com/3az2ovw)

95.8% Yes
2,122,414 votes

4.2% No
93,261 votes

and hey, easy now -- not all of the women in blue states are exactly blue!

Good point. Just the blue chicks in the blue states. It's easy to distinguish red chicks from blue chicks anywho.

About 50% of it is bad data.'  And these clowns want to run Healthcare????

Someone needs to run a commercial showing the oil spill, an equals sign, and the healthcare bill.

And that commercial needs to run on television until the sun explodes.

I will gladly support the fence made of flying lead. I recently purchased an AR15 chambered in the .458 SOCOM. No double-tap required.

Jeebus! Can you knock down a commercial airliner with that? Or a Space Shuttle carrying Muslims?

Posted by: ErikW at July 06, 2010 04:33 PM (jAs+i)

Pretty much. I have some 300, 325 and 500 grain shells. The 325 grain are hollow point.

>>> Thanks, though I need to write at it more.  Trying to earn some more money so I can get the flock out of this God-forsaken state (CA).

Texas awaits you and your family with open arms!

so how bad those Obama really want his legacy to be?

pass unpopular bills with no bipartisan support? check

cost dems seats that were solid blue? check

spend and have deficits worse then all previous presidents? check

get low approval ratings faster then the guy you bashed to get into office? check

take cheap shots at reps who already hate you and just pisses independents who believe everyone can get along and are the deciding factors on elections? check

have a Katrina like incident and get ranked worst then then Bush w/ the original? check

apologize to enemies and embarass allies? check

care more about his base then the country in general? check

i'm pretty sure i'm missing other stuff

You forgot to mention anything about "shout outs"

Posted by: The Great Satan™ at July 06, 2010 04:32 PM (BedzM)

Never thought I'd say this, but I concur with Satan.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at July 06, 2010 04:34 PM (UEEex)

They're saying that illegal aliens are a tradable commodity that the feral government has the responsibility to insure the free interstate flow of.

I will gladly support the fence made of flying lead. I recently purchased an AR15 chambered in the .458 SOCOM. No double-tap required.

Jeebus! Can you knock down a commercial airliner with that? Or a Space Shuttle carrying Muslims?

As long as they are within 200yds. Sited at 100 yds it's 5" low by 150 and 14" low at 200yds (900 ft-lbs remaining)

The case is assigned to Judge Neil V. Wake.

Nominated by President Bush on Oct. 22, 2003, Mr. Wake had his hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Jan. 22, 2004, and was favorably reported out of committee on March 4, 2004.

A Phoenix native, Mr. Wake, 55, had been in private practice, specializing in commercial, administrative and constitutional litigation, appellate practice and Indian law. He served as a judge pro tempore on the Arizona Court of Appeals in 1985, 1992 and 1996-98, and is co-author of the Arizona Appellate Handbook.

As long as they are within 200yds. Sited at 100 yds it's 5" low by 150 and 14" low at 200yds (900 ft-lbs remaining)

Posted by: MikeTheMoose which is a reference to the animal in the deer family not the religion of peace. at July 06, 2010 04:44 PM (0q2P7)

That's true.  The ballistics require that you be extremely aware of your distance.

This should be more properly titled Obama vs US Sovereignty.

Reason @ 192......you're welcome. Amazing numbers and it felt good to support AZ.

 yes, the lawsuit is officially captioned "The United States of America v. The State of Arizona."

I wish to crap they'd leave our name out of this. 

Additionally, because the purpose of this law is to deter and prevent the movement of certain aliens into Arizona, the law restricts interstate commerce.

I can't get rid of the italics

FDR started this shit with a suit saying that farmers choosing to NOT grow crop affected interstate commerce.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 06, 2010 04:45 PM (swuwV)

Posted by: baldilocks at July 06, 2010 04:39 PM (7qrAO)

My latest idea... since the BLM is the largest landowner in the country, I'm sure we could find good land to TRADE to those living on the border (ranches and such)... heck, give em a 2 for 1 deal if you have to.

Then Nationalize a 20 mile "buffer" zone and give it to the Military (think DMZ) where they can use said land for counter insurgency training.

As tresspassing on Federal Land IS a Federal Crime, Military Police CAN enforce trespassing laws on Military installations, thus no Posse Commitarus problems.

Then the military hands over the illegals to the Border Patrol...

This solution would solve the problem, and even with relocation costs, still would be cheaper than what it costs to support all the illegals making it to our country (healthcare costs, education costs and such...)

They're saying that illegal aliens are a tradable commodity that the feral government has the responsibility to insure the free interstate flow of.

Hmmm. Smacks of the slave trade. Bunch of racists, those Obamaites.

They're saying that illegal aliens are a tradable commodity that the feral government has the responsibility to insure the free interstate flow of.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 06, 2010 04:44 PM (Qp4DT)

So that whole "100% beef" is a marketing gimmick?

so how bad those Obama really want his legacy to be?

pass unpopular bills with no bipartisan support? check

cost dems seats that were solid blue? check

spend and have deficits worse then all previous presidents? check

get low approval ratings faster then the guy you bashed to get into office? check

take cheap shots at reps who already hate you and just pisses independents who believe everyone can get along and are the deciding factors on elections? check

have a Katrina like incident and get ranked worst then then Bush w/ the original? check

apologize to enemies and embarass allies? check

care more about his base then the country in general? check

i'm pretty sure i'm missing other stuff

Turning NASA into a Muslim outreach agency.

So that whole "100% beef" is a marketing gimmick?

Posted by: Snarky guy at July 06, 2010 04:54 PM (RkRxq)

Soylente Verde?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 06, 2010 04:56 PM (Qp4DT)

Posted by: dude double rainbow dude at July 06, 2010 04:58 PM (y/+ik)

But Afganistan... and WWII... and uh... the Korean War were all Obama's choice...

I can't get rid of the italics

FDR started this shit with a suit saying that farmers choosing to NOT grow crop affected interstate commerce.

Posted by: dagny at July 06, 2010 04:50 PM (P8ubl)

Posted by: t-bird at July 06, 2010 04:18 PM (FcR7P)

reminds me of the scene in the Marx Brothers film,  A Night At the Opera:

Driftwood: It's all right, that's, that's in every contract. That's, that's what they call a 'sanity clause'.
Fiorello: Ha ha ha ha ha! You can't fool me! There ain't no Sanity Clause!

Of course, no commerce implications here (yes I saw the earlier comment - not trying to hijack)

http://tinyurl.com/272g2zd

California has gotten away with imposing their drug addled philosophies on the rest of the country for years.

Of course, Justice is hot after this.

167 I gotta say, it's annoying listening to these mentally defective Mexicans that support illegals call local talk shows and babble about how whites came here illegally blah blah blah.

ESPECIALLY since most Mexicans have some Spanish aka white blood in them. 

221 They're saying that illegal aliens are a tradable commodity that the feral government has the responsibility to insure the free interstate flow of.

Exactamente!!! 

ESPECIALLY since most Mexicans have some Spanish aka white blood in them. 

Posted by: effinayright at July 06, 2010 05:04 PM (GNTj/)

It's not the "immigrant" that people are against...

It's the "illegal".

Posted by: Jay in Ames at July 06, 2010 05:03 PM (UEEex)

It does, since the courts have decided that Americans, as individuals, have no standing for anything in court that is not a bogus discrimination suit or some other politically correct bullshit.

"They're saying that illegal aliens are a tradable commodity that the feral government has the responsibility to insure the free interstate flow of."

How long do you think it will take before La Raza realizes that Obama just called their people a "commodity?"

Someone wake me when the outrage starts.  Zzzzzzz....

OT: Amazing clip on CNN just now, of the Netanyahu-Obama meeting.

It looked like they were arm wrestling or attempting to pull one another out of their chairs, during an ostensibly ceremonial handshake. Never seen anything like it in my life...serious pissing match that looked like it could go to blows or someone sprawled on the floor.

Posted by: dagny at July 06, 2010 05:09 PM (P8ubl)

Hey now... we won there gringo...

OT: Amazing clip on CNN just now, of the Netanyahu-Obama meeting.

It looked like they were arm wrestling or attempting to pull one another out of their chairs, during an ostensibly ceremonial handshake. Never seen anything like it in my life...serious pissing match that looked like it could go to blows or someone sprawled on the floor.

Posted by: Who Knows at July 06, 2010 05:10 PM (aE/nJ)

My money is on Bibi.  I'm fairly certain that the way he was treated last time probably had him doing a few pushups prior to this meeting.

Posted by: dagny at July 06, 2010 05:09 PM (P8ubl)

Hey now... we won there gringo...

Posted by: An Aztec at July 06, 2010 05:12 PM (77Zbc)

And don't forget us...

OT: Amazing clip on CNN just now, of the Netanyahu-Obama meeting.

It looked like they were arm wrestling or attempting to pull one another out of their chairs, during an ostensibly ceremonial handshake. Never seen anything like it in my life...serious pissing match that looked like it could go to blows or someone sprawled on the floor.

Posted by: Who Knows at July 06, 2010 05:10 PM (aE/nJ)

Someone wake me when the outrage starts

You're going to be sleeping longer than Rip Van Winkle.

the impact the law could have on immigrantsÂ’ willingness to cooperate with local police in criminal investigations,

I always considered this a complete bullshit argument.  Let's take LA as an example with Special Order 40, which is the main apparatus for making LA a sanctuary city.  Cops are ordered not to ask about immigration status.  The prime justification is  willingness to cooperate .  So, just how many illegal aliens testified for the prosecution in felonies in LA during the reign of Special Order 40?  And how many illegal aliens committed felonies in LA during that same period?  I don't know, sorry, but 'll take a WAG at 100 illegal alien committed felonies for every one illegal alien that testified.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 06, 2010 05:18 PM (Qp4DT)

As I said earlier... their whole arugment is based on the premise that the Precedent has discretion to enforce, or not enforce, US Law, as a matter of Policy... and that Arizona's forcing of enforcment of US Law thus trumps his Constitutional powers...

Thus dies the Republic, to thunderous Legal Briefs...

call me racist but my first thought when I realized we were going to have a Black President was that he'd be more a hoops player then a Golf player
 

Obama looks strangely uncomfortable walking in a straight line. I think golf is better suited for his physical abilities (or lack thereof). That guy is the most uncoordinated, lanky, clumsy, prancing fancy-boy I've ever seen.

Thus dies the Republic, to thunderous Legal Briefs...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 06, 2010 05:24 PM (77Zbc)

Yep.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 06, 2010 05:25 PM (/0IOT)

Crap, whats worse? I'm selling my house in Colorado because my kids are pretty much gone (daughter moved out, Son goes to Navy Boot in 2 months)... and I may have to move back to Calif to take care of my 85 year old Mom.... who we can't dyanmite out of the old hometown...

But I will bring the guns... LOL

Posted by: toby928 at July 06, 2010 05:28 PM (4WbTI)

OT: San Francisco achieves purity level of 100% Fucked.

Newsom's directive, issued in April but whose practical impacts are starting to be felt now, bars calorically sweetened beverages from vending machines on city property.

That includes non-diet sodas, sports drinks and artificially sweetened water. Juice must be 100 percent fruit or vegetable juice with no added sweeteners. Diet sodas can be no more than 25 percent of the items offered, the directive says.

There should be "ample choices" of water, "soy milk, rice milk and other similar dairy or non dairy milk," says the directive, which also covers fat and sugar content in vending machine snacks.

It's all part of Newsom's effort to combat obesity and improve San Franciscans' health, similar to a national effort being championed by first lady Michelle Obama.

I love the rumor going around about how Justice Kennedy is telling friends he's going to see Obama out before he retires, and not leaving much doubt as to why!

So, Preznit Cheepshot McFucknozzle, maybe next time Axelfart suggests you fuck around with some powerful dudes on national TV, maybe youse kinda oughtta think it through?  Did you think they wouldn't do anything cause they had to sit there out of politeness?  Now they're sitting on your face!

There should be "ample choices" of water, "soy milk, rice milk and other similar dairy or non dairy milk," says the directive 

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent

That's what I've been looking for!  Perishable dairy products from a fucking vending machine!  Hope there's a toilet nearby!  "Ask me how I lost 8 pounds in 2 minutes!"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose which is a reference to the animal in the deer family not the religion of peace. at July 06, 2010 05:38 PM (0q2P7)

It is unthinkable what it will mean for the country,  but I reluctantly and fearfully agree with what MikeTheMoose and Blazer have said. 

That is what we are looking at now.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 06, 2010 05:36 PM (P9+0W)

It's a riot to shoot.

293  I was thinking of another word that begins with a "p" and ends with a "y", but "pansy" will suffice.

292  Exactly...but never let a crisis that could push through some more power for the regime go to waste...

Posted by: Dr. Spank at July 06, 2010 05:54 PM (xO+6C)

It won't be.  They've bought off the refs so it doesn't even get to that point.  Expect to see a bunch of offsides calls.

I prefer the more refined and socially acceptable,  as well as definitively accurate,  "effete."  Either that,  or "cunt."

I prefer "candyass" myself.

321  I doubt that would work.  For one thing -- that "cheap labor force" won't be so cheap, nor will it work if it doesn't get something out of it (aka. welfare or comparable paying jobs to native workers).  For another, I really can't see the majority of Americans going for this -- and to enforce marial law you have to have the martial forces enforcing.  That might get difficult.

Although the use of the commerce clause vis a vis NAFTA has me wondering about a few things...

How about: "fucking fetid, feces ridden piece of abortive blod clot"?

Oh, that's much, much better. It paints quite the verbal picture.

Although I could learn to edit for spelling huh?

It has been suggested that this is not a "real" lawsuit - but just another a political stunt. temper tantrum  - Posted by: Roger at July 06, 2010 04:14 PM (tAwhy)

FIFY 

OT:   AOSHQ made the list of manliest conservative blogs....

http://tinyurl.com/27y5luq

Although I could learn to edit for spelling huh?

Everyone misses a keystroke. Mine have become so common I don't bother correcting them anymore. I just let everyone assume I'm a dumbass.

He doesn't have an English degree, but I did hear my brother refer to Obama voters as "the pustulant precipitate of a pussified proletariat", once.

Nice wordsmithyness! You should claim that as your own.

"Bush, McCain, Perry...when will this breed realize that the current tsunami of illegal aliens in and entering the US is worse than a ball and chain dragging our situation deeper, bankrupting what is already bankrupt."

Hey, now, c'mon...at my last rally, there were a good six or eight Hispanics who said they would vote for me.  I can't lose them.

Although I could learn to edit for spelling huh?

Everyone misses a keystroke. Mine have become so common I don't bother correcting them anymore. I just let everyone assume I'm a dumbass.

Posted by: ErikW at July 06, 2010 06:22 PM (jAs+i)

Well, if ya take Dumbass... drop the BS.... you get Dumas, who was a wonderful author!  Now if we could just fit Obama for an Iron Mask?

This is incredibly weak as a legal argument, and that's an objective analysis. The bottom line is that the feds have claimed their neglect to enforce the law is public policy, and Arizona has infringed upon this choice. In other words, this is about "pre-emption" of a policy choice, not a pre-emption of law. To my knowledge, pre-emption never has been argued on a resource allocation basis. This is not in any way about state law trying to triumph, and this pleading admits as much. An objective court will not find for the feds.

The main goal has been accomplished, though, and it was political. Something has "been done" to please left-wing Hispanic interest groups like La Raza. I think the only way for an injunction to have issued was under the pre-emption argument. No other issue was ripe enough to claim irreparable harm.

Arizona needs immediately appeal the mere issuance of an injunction. That will force the feds to tip their hands and show how little they hold. The bottom line is that the Obama/Holder communist clown cabal has argued any state action that results in resource allocation the federal government doesn't like is pre-empted. I shudder at the implications of such an assertion, but am confident even today's courts will have none of it, and rather quickly.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 06, 2010 04:56 PM (Qp4DT)"

You are a total raaaaaaaaaaaaaacist

/snark off

Well, if ya take Dumbass... drop the BS.... you get Dumas, who was a wonderful author!  Now if we could just fit Obama for an Iron Mask?

You sir are either a genius, a drunkard or both.

I salute you!

OT: On CNN's front page, halfway down on the right, there's a poll where you can vote whether NASA's foremost mission should be reaching out to muslims.  Right now, it is 95% NO.

I voted!

Wow. Between this poll and the one MSNBC was doing earlier that resulted in a crotch kick to the liberal agenda, I think we'll soon be seeing the MFM decide that polls on any topic are racist.

What could go  wrong, Eric Holder is a fine lawyer.

You sir are either a genius, a drunkard or both.

I salute you!

Posted by: ErikW at July 06, 2010 06:36 PM (jAs+i)

As I tell my children, you think the way I think is scary?  You outghta see it from the unedited inside!

Lindsay Lohan sentenced to 90 days in jail.

Yeah, I don't give a shit about some junkie scrunt either, but I do love it when some self-important fuckwad gets bitch slapped.

"Thanks, Pixy.  I never knew before that Middle English poetry was merely long strings of unbroken, annoying text."

Everyone heere on thys fine establyshment of Intyrrnettes wuld do themselfs well to acquyre a reel wig of the most fynest of lace (from the deepest reaches of the Eastyrn Orient.) and genuinne human hairs.

Come!  Submit unto mee your correspondances, posthaste!

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, ...

Posted by: MikeTheMoose which is a reference to the animal in the deer family not the religion of peace. at July 06, 2010 06:49 PM (0q2P7)

Yepers... funny how on US Navy boarding ops I carried a 12 Guage pump, and a 1911A1 .45 ACP...  sometimes you just can't get better than the classics.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Adirondack Patriot --

It sounds like you're against the United States of America in this case. Just what kind of "patriot" are you, anyway?

(I kid, of course. Where abouts in the Great Northern Forest are you?

O/T: I signed Doug Hoffman's petition the other day. The Adirondacks will be short one accountant next year.)

Posted by: MikeTheMoose which is a reference to the animal in the deer family not the religion of peace. at July 06, 2010 06:49 PM (0q2P7)

Yepers... funny how on US Navy boarding ops I carried a 12 Guage pump, and a 1911A1 .45 ACP...  sometimes you just can't get better than the classics.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 06, 2010 06:52 PM (77Zbc)

My concealed carry is a Glock 36, small profile .45 ACP.

 or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay

Hmmm... forgot about that... a State CAN egange in War, if actually invaded...

ok. I missed it. What is this Nasa/islamo nonsense? Did they say nasa was for muslim outreach? If they mean rocket launchings at the kabob, I'm all for  that.

Probably one of the most bizarre statements to come from a NASA administrator since, well, ever.

Charles Bolden thinks it would be a good idea to use NASA to recognize Muslims and their scientific achievements.

How the hell that's supposed to be accomplished, I have no idea.

How the hell that's supposed to be accomplished, I have no idea.How the hell that's supposed to be accomplished, I have no idea.

We use Arabic numerals when we do math and stuff.

Charles Bolden thinks it would be a good idea to use NASA to recognize Muslims and their scientific achievements.

I thought he was just reporting what Obama told him to do.

How do you think my country stays afloat?

Posted by: Felipe Calderon at July 06, 2010 03:41 PM (jAs+i)

Shit, kidnapping's the national past time.

How the hell that's supposed to be accomplished, I have no idea.

Participation awards?

I thought he was just reporting what Obama told him to do.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 06, 2010 07:02 PM (fb5C4)

Yeah, probably. I don't know. The whole concept is so fucking ludicrous I can't bring myself to really read anything about it. I guess I'm not the best person to disseminate information about it.

>> "NASA is not only a space exploration agency," Bolden concluded, "but also an Earth improvement agency."

Keeping abbreviations short is a trend within the government. Like CDC -- that stands for Centers for Disease Control and Prevention but you don't get the "and Prevention" part by looking at the abbreviation.

The same with NASA, the National Aeronautics, Space and Earth Improvement Administration. 

(By the way, is there a government agency charged with protecting the environment? That thing in the Gulf of Mexico seems like it could get messy, eventually.)

Posted by: Richard Nixon at July 06, 2010 07:14 PM (X8Vl0)

1993 was 17-years, ago.

  Miss me yet?

They turned the internets off!!!

Who? The Muslims?

Well, they're allowed seeing as how they invented computers and shit.

Obama told him before he took the job that he wanted him to do three things: inspire children to learn math and science, expand international relationships and "perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering."

Wow. Obama truly has no grasp of reality.

Can our legislature please pass a law that requires a sitting President to undergo mandatory drug screenings twice a week?

HeY! Muslims invented ZERO!

coincidence? i think not...

HeY! Muslims invented ZERO!

coincidence? i think not...

That is one of those myths I was talking about. The Hindus get credit for that and if I am not mistaken (without Binging it) that occurred long before Muslims existed.

Charles Bolden thinks it would be a good idea to use NASA to recognize Muslims and their scientific achievements.

Since this is supposed to him performing his obeisance to Obama, can we safely conclude that Obama is indeed a Muslim?

Gustus Bozarth for President!

http://tinyurl.com/2uauwjy

Yeah, he's a homeless guy who appears to be a little'slow', but at least he loves the USA, unlike the current occupant of the WH.....

WTF?

Lindsey Lohan - locked up for 90 days for parole violation

Illegal Immigrant - with misdemeanors, felony charges = catch and release

It only figures that a culture that contributes NOTHING to the betterment of mankind would have invented Zero.

They're, as a culture, so useless that if they were to rapture out of here the rest of us would breathe a sigh of relief. They're the cultural equivalent of AIDS.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 06, 2010 07:22 PM (Ulu3i)

Agreed.  He must be held responsible for the great damage he's done.  And all those who aided and abetted him are just as liable.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent posting things that are not to far fetched at July 06, 2010 07:05 PM (YVZlY)

Posted by: Earl Butz at July 06, 2010 07:14 PM (X8Vl0)

Yea Earl, I remember the joke.

So they were the ones who invented the Corvair, huh ?

I'm guessing the Pinto.

Lindsay Lohan sentenced to 90 days in jail.

Yeah, I don't give a shit about some junkie scrunt either, but I do love it when some self-important fuckwad gets bitch slapped.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 06, 2010 06:44 PM (P33XN)

  Obama Needs His Own Dick Cheney  

FIFY

Lindsay Lohan sentenced to 90 days in jail.

Yeah, I don't give a shit about some junkie scrunt either, but I do love it when some self-important fuckwad gets bitch slapped.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 06, 2010 06:44 PM (P33XN)

Posted by: Blazer at July 06, 2010 07:41 PM (t72+4)

Please, she will be out within two hours for time served, but us regular losers would serve the full time. Actually,  I am guessing 1 hour.

 _{He must be held responsible for the great damage he's done.  And all those who aided and abetted him are just as liable.}

_{BRAAAIIIINNNNSSSSS!}

While the application for an injunction is better drafted, it suffers from the same fatal flaw as the complaint. "Pre-emption" is being defined in a political, public policy context rather than as a legal concept. Again, this is an argument for non-enforcement because of limited resources (a blatant lie, but nonetheless what is claimed).

If the Executive Branch prefers to enforce a law to curtail Tea Party speech rather than deport illegal alien rapists, that doesn't mean the laws against the latter are non-existent. If the State of Arizona enforces the laws of the United States, and defers to the feds on questions of function, there is no pre-emption. Arizona cannot force the United States to take the illegal alien rapist into federal custody for deportation. This doesn't mean it cannot enforce the law and seek that result. In fact, there is case law to support Arizona on this point.

While I didn't think the United States would prevail on the merits, I did think an injunction would issue. I no longer do. The only goal of this lawsuit, pandering to left-wing Hispanic interest groups, has been achieved. This isn't even a half-assed effort to prevail on legal merits.

In my wildest dreams I never thought the U.S. case would be this thin. It makes me concerned about what this lame duck Congress will do. We need to remember these left-wing maggots have never held real jobs and will try to get into non-profits and jobs as lobbyists and consultants. Make certain your soon-to-be unemployed representative knows you will pick up the phone and give any prospective "employer" an earful if he gets hired after fucking you and the rest of the country.

Man, the Arab hate is strong around here.  You wouldn't dare say this about Africans or Indigenous Americans, who accomplished much less than Arabs did.

Why not? Africa is run by genocidal warlords and Native Americans weren't exactly the "smokum peace pipe" folks that the retards on the left would have you believe.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 06, 2010 07:53 PM (kq1lG)

We use Arabic numerals when we do math and stuff.

Posted by: NASA

Arabic numerals were invented by Hindus before Islam existed.  Next?

I know, but most people here wouldn't say it because it would sound "racist".

Who fucking cares? If I order my iced tea unsweetened, some douchebag will come up with a reason as to why that's racist.

There's no way to escape it. Turn it it back on them and laugh at them. Libs can't stand to be mocked.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at July 06, 2010 07:52 PM (xO+6C)

Yeah cause death threats against sheriffs by illegals in az are boring as hell!!

_{Oh, and it is not "Arabs", it is Filthy Muslims}

and fixed.

We use Arabic numerals when we do math and stuff.

Posted by: NASA

Arabic numerals were invented by Hindus before Islam existed.  Next?

What have they invented/discovered/advanced?

Posted by: Ralph Nader at July 06, 2010 07:35 PM (t72+4)

The Corvair was a fine car, you worthless pali fuck.  Btw, thanks for saving us from ManBearPig.  Now go blow a lawyer.

@6: "Honestly this feels like Christmas in June, er July. Seriously this is a lose/lose for the Dems and Obama."

Given the Gummint's and the GOP's unbelievable predilection for fucking things up in the most astounding manner possible, it's gotta be a losing option for the nation, too.

@77: "Better yet, what if the feds win the case and, in spite of that, Arizona gives Obama a hearty Foxtrot Uniform and enforces its law anyway."

Gov. Brewer would need to go one better than Andrew Jackson.  Call up the Guard, then hold a press conference stating: "You have rendered your opinion on the matter. Now come enforce it."

What have they invented/discovered/advanced?

Face it: if oil hadn't been discovered, by the West, right under their tarbooshes, "they" would still be eating their camels, riding their dates and wiping themselves with the hems of their robes.

And btw:  Arabs are Caucasians, so STFU with the "racist" nonsense.  It's their culture that is perversely backward.   Persians still snicker at Arab primitives, as do Indian muslims.

What have they invented/discovered/advanced?

Sigh, I repeat, NOTHING. (although I did list a couple of things but since I think you are a lady I will not mention those again)

I may have missed that above thread.  I appreciate your sensitivities toward my sensitivity.

BTW, as soon as someone tells me who the "real native Americans" are maybe I can make an estimate about stuff they invented.

Atlatls?

I buy into the idea that Native Americans probably crossed over from Asia and/or the South Pacific but I think the time frame is a load of shit.

I'm willing to say that the first inhabitants of the New World have probably been here for at least 50,000 years.

Meso-American archaeologists are notoriously thick-skulled and generally arrogant about what is or is not accepted as fact.

 This is lawfare and not to be mistaken for anything resembling common sense.

No, this is the U.S. Constitution and it is in full force in Arizona as well as the rest of the United States.  It has to be taken seriously.  If you think it can be pushed aside because the illegal immigration problem is so bad, then you're wrong.  The Constitution wins over the temporal policy priorities of the far-right conservatives in Arizona.  The Constitution wins.

@108: "Besides that, it smacks of a slapp suit."

Under most Anti-SLAPP statutes, the Gummint is expressly immune.

No, this is the U.S. Constitution and it is in full force in Arizona as well as the rest of the United States.  It has to be taken seriously.  If you think it can be pushed aside because the illegal immigration problem is so bad, then you're wrong.  The Constitution wins over the temporal policy priorities of the far-right conservatives in Arizona.  The Constitution wins.

Sally... have you not read the Constitution?  It clearly indicates that the federal government is an appendage of the states, and not vice-versa.  Any particular reading of any of the several Articles posted here on this thread will show that where the Constitution does speak, it speaks loudly in favor of Arizona.  And

Oh, never mind, I just realized which troll I'm talking to.

And btw: Arabs are Caucasians, so STFU with the "racist" nonsense. It's their culture that is perversely backward. Persians still snicker at Arab primitives, as do Indian muslims.

Posted by: I Got Yer Arab Hate Right Here at July 06, 2010 08:17 PM (GNTj/)

Back in the 14th century, Ibn Khaldun has some interesting words about arabs (The Muqaddimah):

No, this is the U.S. Constitution and it is in full force in Arizona as well as the rest of the United States.  It has to be taken seriously.  If you think it can be pushed aside because the illegal immigration problem is so bad, then you're wrong.  The Constitution wins over the temporal policy priorities of the far-right conservatives in Arizona.  The Constitution wins.

Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at July 06, 2010 08:19 PM (FRErk)

24.  Arabs can gain control only over flat territory.

Holder will be gone under the bus before this stupid lawsuit is thrown out. His love of the New (we need to kill white babies) Black Panther Movement is all over the news.

It seems to me that OilBama is trying to start a race war.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 06, 2010 08:31 PM (c0A3e)

Posted by: Vic at July 06, 2010 08:34 PM (/jbAw)

Not at all.  He was, as you state, a muslim, and loved islam.  He revered the Persians but thought the arabs were pond scum.

Meso-American archaeologists are notoriously thick-skulled and generally arrogant about what is or is not accepted as fact.

Posted by: ErikW at July 06, 2010 08:18 PM (jAs+i)

So, to summarize all of the neato goodness that Barry the Merciful has bestowed upon us:

Iran - more rogue than normal and will probably use a nuke once it has one just... because they are so peaceful.

Economy - flushed once, flushed again for extra certainty.

Jobs - Nada

Suing AZ because it is the least of the administration's bevy of reasons that demonstrate Barry abject incompetence (notwithstanding being the 15th greatest president in history)

And now!!!  Drum roll please!!!!

I give you...!!!

SMART DIPLOMACY!!!!!!!!!!

http://tinyurl.com/25obkhd

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at July 06, 2010 08:39 PM (b8VPN)

Your neighbors?

Posted by: Blazer at July 06, 2010 08:41 PM (t72+4)

If they can come to an agreement on the gay thing there really isn't any difference.

The people that are forwarded as "native Americans" by the MFM (who we all used to call the Indians) are of Asian Inuit stock, supposedly from the Asian land bridge crossing.

Yes and the physical features of Native Americans (I've been cowed by the PC folks, evidently) share distinct features with Asians. Strong pointed chins and cheekbones, deep set eyes, lack of thick facial hair.

There are some that are suggesting that there is evidence that Europeans came here as far back as 20,000 years ago.

I believe that too. If there is one thing that pisses me off about mainstream science, it's that if they aren't holding a piece of physical evidence in their hands, an alternative or opposing view is not only unacceptable but even laughable in the elite world of academia.

In all fairness to a fair chunk of my forebears -- while they didn't invent aquaducts or penicillin; they didn't they also didn't have the same damaging effect on the progress of civilization as a certain group has had (although Grammy and Grampy would have told you to watch out for those filthy Pawnee...).

And from the latest genetic studies I've read about the indigenous peoples seem to share DNA markers from Asia and Western Europe...so I guess that means they're part white, thus fair game half the time at least for all you non-halfbreeds?

Alan Colmes states, "democrats will not lose the House of Representatives in November."

I have a sneaking suspicion that Alan Colmes scratched "Suck a dick" off his Bucket List a long time ago.

If they can come to an agreement on the gay thing there really isn't any difference.

Posted by: robtr at July 06, 2010 08:43 PM (fwSHf)

Did the Arabs invent goatsex?

Furthermore, since they use force to make craftsmen and professional workers do their work, they do not see any value in it and do not pay them for it. Now, as we shall mention, labor is the real basis of profit. When labor is not appreciated and is done for nothing, the hope for profit vanishes, and no (productive) work is done. The sedentary population disperses, and civilization decays.

They often level fines on property, because they want to get some advantage, some tax, or profit out of it.

Obama is 37.5% Arab and it shows

Thank God for Justice Kennedy, gonna stick around till the american hating loser gets booted from office, , Go Reagan!!

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at July 06, 2010 08:52 PM (b8VPN)

We would be great neighbors!

Posted by: Vic at July 06, 2010 08:52 PM (/jbAw)

I see what you did there.

Posted by: Vic at July 06, 2010 08:52 PM (/jbAw)

Posted by: MikeTheMoose which is a reference to the animal in the deer family not the religion of peace. at July 06, 2010 08:20 PM (0q2P7)

How the hell that's supposed to be accomplished, I have no idea."

1.  Announce a new moon mission, to be launched tomorrow.

2. Following day, roll out a wooden chair with a dude in a shawal kameez in it.

3. Yell "To the Moon! Allah Wills It!!!!!"

4. Wait around a while to see if the chair launches.

5. Announce: "Muslim science ain't shit.  Consider yourselves acknowledged."

Or, blow up Charles Bolden with a suicide belt.

 I'm Irish/Comanche and a native born Texan.

So you get hammered on Jameson and Lone Star when you play bingo?

Or, blow up Charles Bolden with a suicide belt.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 06, 2010 08:54 PM (ySNz/)

the dumb ass also said he thought the space station was a great success because it's like a mini UN in space where astronauts of different cultures can hang out together.

Alan Colmes states, "democrats will not lose the House of Representatives in November."

Alan Colmes is an annoying dickbag. Why even Megyn Kelly let's his wierd ass on her show is a frickin' mystery.

Posted by: Vic at July 06, 2010 08:52 PM (/jbAw)

Posted by: the peanut gallery at July 06, 2010 08:54 PM (NurK6)

Posted by: Aristotle at July 06, 2010 09:02 PM (A6C0I)

How many people has Iran killed recently?

They've killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille.

Grandma de gator was full blooded Cherokee Nation. That means I'm able to get free shit. Don't want it. I have not-so-interesting stories about being coerced to check the right boxes. I'm American, dammit, and race is bullshit.

Probably should've taken the full ride to med school, though. Fucking pride.

469:

No, this is the U.S. Constitution and it is in full force in Arizona as well as the rest of the United States.  It has to be taken seriously.  If you think it can be pushed aside because the illegal immigration problem is so bad, then you're wrong.  The Constitution wins over the temporal policy priorities of the far-right conservatives in Arizona.  The Constitution wins.

....in which case Barry loses because of this asinine view of  "pre-emption" even left-wing legal analysts concede is pure political bullshit. In which case, you and Barry can revert to form, take out your shredders, insert the Constitution, and you can write, on que:

The Constitution is a deeply flawed, racist dcoument written by slaveowners. It evolves as does enlightened humanity. It has outlived its purpose....etc., etc..

Incidentally, I imagine you are a fairly lively fuck based on past experiences with bleating sheep.

No, this is the U.S. Constitution and it is in full force in Arizona as well as the rest of the United States.  It has to be taken seriously.  If you think it can be pushed aside because the illegal immigration problem is so bad, then you're wrong.  The Constitution wins over the temporal policy priorities of the far-right conservatives in Arizona.  The Constitution wins.

Posted by: Sally Ann Cavanaugh at July 06, 2010 08:19 PM (FRErk)

I have news for you: we're the ones who take the Constitution seriously.  You regard it as a totem to be invoked in favor of your agenda and otherwise ignored.  Yes, the Constitution WILL win in this case, when this laughably baseless political suit gets tossed in the trashcan of history.

Show me where Arizona is actually attempting to adopt its own immigration laws rather than to enforce federal law that the feds themselves refuse to. Show me where the Constitution prohibits what Arizona is doing.  And no, the Supremacy Clause alone doesn't do that, nor does Congress's power over immigration, nor does federal law preempt state law WHERE THERE ISN'T A CONFLICT.

Posted by: Blazer at July 06, 2010 09:03 PM (t72+4)

If you refer to Iraq's program, it was pretty damn pathetic, limited to one reactor and thus easily destroyed. No other Arab state was able to develop a nuclear program of any sort. It's called natural selection. And don't forget Pakis had India breathing down their necks.

#526 Perhaps Muslims can be invited to be the first to have goatsex in outer space then, No?

*sqwauk...static* ISS Houston here. Over

*chitter chick chick* Houston ISS here. Over

* csqwaaak click* How's Mo doin' wif dat goat? Over

*fzzzzzt* Mo's been riding him for over an hour. Fukin' amazing. Out of this world. Over

The US Government just sued a US State for passing and enforcing a federal law.

If we lose our country, the liberals will commemorate this day in all the public school history books.

Monica Crowley is his sister in law.

Well, I'm distantly related to William Penn but that doesn't make me any more or less desirable.

Although if Monica needs a date, give her my number!

If you refer to Iraq's program, it was pretty damn pathetic, limited to one reactor and thus easily destroyed. No other Arab state was able to develop a nuclear program of any sort. It's called natural selection. And don't forget Pakis had India breathing down their necks.

Posted by: Aristotle at July 06, 2010 09:10 PM (A6C0I)

@431: "So let me get this straight. NASA has no real space mission, no delivery vehicles, and a moron in charge? And it only took Obama 18 months to run NASA into the ground."

NASA's been pretty useless for a while - Obizzle had little to do with that one.

Too lazy to make citations but a lot of the "Muslim civilizations and accomplishments"  was the spread of knowledge and organization by their Greek slaves during wars of conquest.  You don't really think the desert Arabs organized anything do you?

And American Indian accomplishments?  Two have never been improved upon: The canoe and the moccasin. 

Posted by: the peanut gallery at July 06, 2010 09:14 PM (NurK6)

There's a difference between killing and murdering. We kill in warfare. To liberate countries. Following the most restrictive rules of engagement any country has ever imposed on its armed forces. The Iranian government murders innocent men and women. There's a difference, but I don't expect you to recognize it, you ignorant troll.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at July 06, 2010 09:14 PM (NurK6)

If we lose our country, the liberals will commemorate this day in all the public school history books.

Posted by: gator at July 06, 2010 09:12 PM (aOKEC)

Books? Ewww...that's so very unprogressive. You must mean Giant Edumucational Teleprompters. Yes, Giant Edumucational Teleprompters hanging over each and every building over 10 stories high still standing after designated "Man Made Disaster X" caused by Ahmadinijad accidentally pressing the red button while having passionate love session with Elena Kagan sent as a special Judicial envoy of Peace, launching 130 nuclear tipped Shihab-3 missiles upon US major cities.

AOS east coasters, take these freeloaders off our hands, I hope the illegals move to the east coast and kill the people on you're highway!!

NASA's been pretty useless for a while - Obizzle had little to do with that one.

True dat but he sure as hell buried it and drove a stake through it's heart just to make sure.

Posted by: Vic at July 06, 2010 09:17 PM (/jbAw)

He has the intelligence of Soylent Green, so, therefore, by a properly constructed syllogism, we can answer in the affirmative.

Posted by: CDR M at July 06, 2010 09:12 PM (5I8G0)

It's been at the top longer.

@516: "I'm Irish/Comanche"

How have you not killed yourself with firewater yet?  I guess the Irish genes overpower the Comanche when it comes to booze, huh?

We're kinda galloping over the main argument: Arab states suck. Arab states didn't win a single war against a non-Arab country for, like, a thousand years. And yet Arab supremacy is in truth an important pillar in Islam. Which puzzles a lot, if you ask me.

Posted by: Barry, Border Hawk! at July 06, 2010 09:26 PM (ZCXlk)

More likely "Exhibit 121Q."

Posted by: the peanut gallery at July 06, 2010 09:24 PM (NurK6)

If your buddies the Iranians get nuclear weapons, we'll see them make a serious run at that number. Until then, remember; the Iraqis are better off than they were under a dictator who used WMDs against them, and whose sons drove the streets of Baghdad looking for teenage girls to rape, kill, and dump in the river.

Afghanistan? A hellhole W tried to tame, but which should be simply exploited for its resources and otherwise left to fester, and slapped down when it poses a threat to civilized countries.

And, once again, take your shine box and fuck off, asshole.

Well, we are just slowing down the process. The Taliban did have Afghanistan on a brisk pace to the 5^th century before our intervention.

Or perhaps even earlier. The Taliban outlawed music.

Music.

No children singing. No wedding celebrations.

That's inhuman if you ask me.

We're kinda galloping over the main argument: Arab states suck. Arab states didn't win a single war against a non-Arab country for, like, a thousand years. And yet Arab supremacy is in truth an important pillar in Islam. Which puzzles a lot, if you ask me.

Posted by: Aristotle at July 06, 2010 09:26 PM (A6C0I)

@570: "Imagine a ship with a hole taking on water at a dangerous rate and the captain orders his 50 colleagues on the ship to not touch the hole, just keep taking water until we sink."

Obizzle, The Messiah: Gentlemen, I have some good news and some bad news. Which would you prefer?
America: Good news.
Obizzle, The Messiah: Okay. The good news is the engine has exploded and you're all going to die.
America:  How is that good news?
Obizzle, The Messiah: I haven't yet told you how you're going to die. That's the bad news.
America: How are we gonna die?
Obizzle, The Messiah: You're going to drown in the freezing waters of the North Sea.

@583: "We're kinda galloping over the main argument: Arab states suck. Arab states didn't win a single war against a non-Arab country for, like, a thousand years. And yet Arab supremacy is in truth an important pillar in Islam. Which puzzles a lot, if you ask me."

Hell, Islam's greatest hero was a Kurd.

Hell, Islam's greatest hero was a Kurd.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 06, 2010 09:40 PM (ySNz/)

And even funnier is that Kurds are close genetic cousins to Jews - closer than to surrounding arab populations.

Music.

No children singing. No wedding celebrations."

Uh, the Tolly-bahn allowed random AK fire, i.e., wedding celebrations.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at July 06, 2010 09:38 PM (NurK6)

Posted by: Blazer at July 06, 2010 09:35 PM (t72+4)

Yeah, bro, but some things are universal in Islam. The divinity of Qabah, the lineage of Muhammad and the (Arabic-Muhammedan) lineage of the Mahdi. Turks, Nigerians and Indonesians accept all these. Thus, the supremacy of Arabs over other nations in the Ummah is clear and distinct.

Uh, the Tolly-bahn allowed random AK fire, i.e., wedding celebrations.

Right, I forgot. Does that happen before or after the 11 year old bride gets raped?

Posted by: the penis gallery at July 06, 2010 09:51 PM (t72+4)

Can you substantiate this claim?

Yeah, bro, but some things are universal in Islam.

Like rock throwing and child rape?

I swear, Islam is the most ridiculous excuse ever invented to justify corrupt and immoral behavior.

Child rape? Check.

Sitting on your ass while cash money flows from the sand that your shitty tent is staked on? Check.

Funding mentally deficient, brain washed idiots to carry out suicide attacks on innocent civilians? Check.

Inventing the concept of zero? Not a check, get a fucking life.

Inventing a jackass religion that requires praying five times a day because Allah has a fucking schedule? Check.

Losers. I guess when you're stuck on top of a sand dune and have no other company than a stinking ass camel that spits at you, fuck off and die. That's all I got.

If the government won't enforce the law, and won't let others enforce the law, why do we need governments or laws?

Posted by: Vic at July 06, 2010 08:52 PM (/jbAw)

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My wife is part Cherokee too.

Unfortunately that part is not the "pucker that part until I'm done" part.

So what good is she?

Posted by: Blazer at July 06, 2010 09:46 PM (t72+4)

Hey now!

Attorney GeneralÂ’s willful failure nullified Federal apprehension and detention Laws; the moment they denied Federal process of prisoners referred to ICE from Arizona:   http://bit.ly/arN2Lx

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part IV > § 1226

§ 1226. Apprehension and detention of aliens
 

(d) Identification of criminal aliens

(1) The Attorney General shall devise and implement a system—

(A) to make available, daily (on a 24-hour basis), to Federal, State, and local authorities the investigative resources of the Service to determine whether individuals arrested by such authorities for aggravated felonies are aliens; (---)

 AZ law has already been upheld by the Court of Appeals for the 9th circuitÂ… This tells me that Amnesty has already entered its stages of processÂ…

* Sorry if I've over-looked a prior mention of this....

If this is overturned by the courts, then there is no reason for any State to try to conform or support ANY federal law.

This lawsuit may rise to the level of crap, but only if it can find something to stand on.

In all seriousness, if the the states cannot assist in supporting laws  the Federal Government CANNOT or WILL NOT enforce, WHY THE HELL do we support or adhere to the dictates of Washington, DC?

The courts turn down ArizonaÂ’s attempt to control their border, it is getting high time to start cleaning weapons and considering shootingÂ…What the hell is the Federal Government good for, if that is the case?

We may as well go it alone. I’m out-going to go listen to “the night they drove old Dixie down” 10 times and try to remember when this country wasn’t so god damn stupid and fucked up.

Unfortunately that part is not the "pucker that part until I'm done" part.

Posted by: effinayright at July 06, 2010 11:29 PM (GNTj/)

MY part Cherokee ass puckers all the time.