1 Ask not who the bell tolls for, Senator Bennett.

2 heck here is the answer to my question on last post

3

ok, since I used to be a dem I am not familiar with much of the GOP's long term incumbants.

Is this a big deal?? and since this is UT, I am correctly guessing and hoping that a good solid conservative will be replacing Bennett??

Also, I appreciate that someone left Gov. Jan Brewer's website, but there is no place for donations, does anyone know where I can donate to this lady, I want to see her elected in November. TY!!

4

This might serve as a warning shot not so much to moderate conservatives in swing states but moderate conservatives in conservative states (hello Lindsey Graham!) that they need to get with the program

uh hmm i like it.

5 I hope he does the honorable thing and does not run as an independent.

Speaking of, I saw an ad for Crist that read, "People Over Politics."  I cracked up --it should read, "Me Over Politics."

6 Hey Lindsey, tick tick tick!

7 i see alotta gray screen

8 He voted for amnesty.  I wrote him a nice letter before the vote that if he supported amnesty, I would not support him in a primary.  Seems that part has been taken care of for me.  He should have been more fiscally conservative as well, but I think after amnesty many Utahns have been ready to pitch him.

9

 i see alotta gray screen

For me, it's a lovely shade of Baby Blue.

I kind of like it!

10 They just held him to his two-terms-only pledge, with a one-extra-term grace period.

This is what conservatives should be doing: challenging during the primary/caucus process to try to get conservatives nominated, rather than simply refusing to support RINOs in the general election.

11 In 2010 we finally hunt the RiNo into Extinction?

12

 Bennet sez :   The political atmosphere, obviously, has been toxic and it's very clear some of the votes that I have cast have added to the toxic environment," he said, choking up. "Looking back on them, with one or two very minor exceptions, I wouldn't have cast them any differently even if I'd known at the time it would cost me my career

bye

13 Speaking of, I saw an ad for Crist that read, "People Over Politics."  I cracked up --it should read, "Me Over Politics."
    OompaLoompas are people, too.

14 Also benefitting from this: JD Hayworth.

15 Hi!  My name is Lindsey!  Welcome to Wal-Mart! 

16
with one or two very minor exceptions, I wouldn't have cast them any differently

Piece of shit.  Good riddance.

17

Hey Lindsey, tick tick tick!

Heh.

18

Pro-Amnesty. From Utah. Brilliant!

... door, ass... etc.

19 Times a Changin'

20 11 In 2010 we finally hunt the RiNo into Extinction?

 

They don't need to be hunted to extinction.  All you have to do is run them off.

21 Hmm.  Where would be best to escape the Seattle rain?  A house in Moab?  Cedar City?  Orem?

22 Last time I posted my electricity had just gone out ... today they came for my cars that were under water and the electricity is just back on today ... my business was under water and is not going to come back ... so many people lost so much ... but you know what ... we don't need no stinking Obama and we had no looting and nobody is begging for him or his administration ... they can go fuck themselves ... and thanks for little or no television coverage of the floods here asshat MSM ... We are very grateful that there were so few deaths and we will survive ... but we will remember in November and in 2012 ...

23 OT - Obama's new "wee wee pedal" over at LGF is whining about "'McCarthy-like threats' against climate scientists by global warming denial groups and individuals" (link to guardian.co.uk, not LGF).

Funny*, he doesn't say a thing about the Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee's petition to "neutralize" Glenn Beck.

*not funny ha-ha

24

15 Hi!  My name is Lindsey!  Welcome to Wal-Mart! 

 

He is not smart enough to work for the Walmart.

25 Someone help me. The only "MFM" I've heard of before was a term used to describe a three-way with two guys and one gal. How can I know if I should be hand-wringing if I don't know what MFM-types are?

26 Bennett: ass, door, some assembly required completed.

27
Nothing to see here, move along.

28 MFM MotherFuckinMedia

29

Utah GOP Dumps 3 Term Senator Bob Bennett...off a ten story building.

Bye bye, asshole.

30 A reason to break out the Grey Goose early this evening! 
Hasta la bye-bye Bennett.

Cheers!

31 Lies no workey any more. The Internet never forgets.

32 Zombie Elvis - McCain's seat, as long as he is in it, is as safe as Specter's. McCain is a vindictive little man who is guaranteed to turn upon conservatives when he is reseated.

Your concern is noted.

33 30 A reason to break out the Grey Goose early this evening! 
Hasta la bye-bye Bennett.

Cheers!

Posted by: mpfs. cardboard fish stick at May 08, 2010 07:29 PM (QuP9W)

--Already sipping the Bushmills m'self.

34
Hey Boob Bennett, you want to get deficits under control, you stop doing deals with Democrats.

35 Good!  About time!  I'm tired of both sides who do what they do, then try to operate as if we're too freaking stupid to see what they're doing.  Good riddance, old man!  Good riddance!

36 Well okay then. Thanks. My hands feel fine unwringed, then.

Bennett won't be missed. And his example will be salutary indeed.

37 If there's a successful terror attack, 0bama will attack Pakistan

A promise he's sticking to!

38 Good on you logprof!

I worked out all the booze this morning at the gym.
Time to reload.

39 I'll let you know later who I'm going to support in this new and exciting Utah race.

40 41 I'll let you know later who I'm going to support in this new and exciting Utah race.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at May 08, 2010 07:33 PM (P33XN)

your hair?

41 23 Bennett was a liberal who needed to go, but this "purge the RINOs" thing bothers me. You could end up nominating a buffoon like Hayworth, who implodes and hands over a safe seat to the Dems.

Posted by: Zombie Elvis follows politics, too at May 08, 2010 07:25 PM (Ks4nX)

Anyone can accidentally implode, so for me that's a non-concern, but there is far less risk in RINO hunting in safe districts. If it's a safe district, 'da bitch betta' GLOW red.

42 Bennett is a typical example of a Republican who thinks he knows better than the rubes that voted for him.

43 Sorry to go OT, but I hope Christie doesn't give up on this, and keeps fighting to rein in the public (state) employee unions in NJ: http://tinyurl.com/29jf9ga All he was looking for was for the unions to be treated the same as companies are with respect to campaign donations . . . he hopefully won't give up on this!

44 'There isn't a revenue problem in Washington DC. There is a spending problem!' And it will be a 'raise our taxes problem' soon.

45 It ain't just Dems that will be packing cardboard boxes this Fall.

46 It ain't just Dems that will be packing cardboard boxes this Fall.

Those cardboard boxes can be sneaky bastards.

47 A house in Moab?

As long as it's in canyon country...

48 Bennet sez :   The political atmosphere, obviously, has been toxic and it's very clear some of the votes that I have cast have added to the toxic environment,"

I don't know much about Bennett, but as far as I'm concerned, anyone who starts in with the "toxic environment" crap is a loser to be jettisoned at the 1st opportunity. 

Toxic?  For you, maybe.  But you do provide a salutory lesson to encourage the others. 

49 Utah Republicans have made a very, very bad choice.

50

Meg Whitman best choice for Kalifornia? Help another Kali moron out here.

Tons of crap mail "vote for ME" coming everyday. Hardly a mention is made about party affiliation. You know, He/She wants to raise taxes, so vote for Me!

I'm ready for the Moron Evacuation from Kalifornia, I'll be on my rooftop.

51 Funny how one event makes both Democrats and GOP big shots both nervous at the same time.

52 10 They just held him to his two-terms-only pledge, with a one-extra-term grace period.

If the RNC was worth anything, they could make two terms official policy.  It would make for a nice "compare and contrast" with pork-barrel lifers Kennedy and Byrd.

53

I'd like to make the process of "reaching across the aisle" a bit more risky for the "moderates". Sometimes you get a dem hand, sometimes you lose your own.

Would a bloody machete and a pile of severed hands look so bad as a warning poster to the RINO crowd?

54 From the linked articles:

Three-term Sen. Bob Bennett was driven from office Saturday by anti-incumbency rage and hostility toward Washington, becoming the first victim of the rising discontent.

and:

The opposition to Bennett is specific, and can't be chalked up to a general anti-incumbency fervor.

Inconsistent, no? One says it's anti-incumbent rage, the other that it's not. In fact, the second is correct. Bennett's opponents identified some particular things he did wrong: TARP, health insurance mandate. It's not that they don't like incumbents. It's that they don't like the compromises this particular incumbent made.

Also, he's not the "first victim of rising discontent." Stupak, Obey...those names ring any bells?

Whoever wrote that first article is an idiot.

55 David Frum wets his pants finger and and checks the direction of the political breeze:

Q: How much does Bennett's loss signal Romney trouble? Romney also backed TARP, also had healthplan.

Hat tip : conservatives4palin.com

56 Rumor has it that Bob Bennett was seen stalking delegates with a 22 foot knife.  There is no hope for them. 

57 Q: How much does Bennett's loss signal Romney trouble? Romney also backed TARP, also had healthplan.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2010 07:44 PM (HjPtV)

True, but in the deep blue states, someone like Romney is safe.

58 Both of the local radio stations I listen to suck. The shows are fine (to varying degrees) but the interstitial news updates at the half-hour and hour marks sound like they're written by Media Matters. Every mention of the Bennett loss characterizes it as a manifestation of "outrage at Government", "Tea Party sympathies" (I loved that one), "anti-incumbent fever in parts of the West". One of them is a Fox talker and the other is both sports/talk and is affiliated w/the local paper, not sure what "broadcasting empire" they're part of.

59
Am I the only who doesn't give a shit about the Abramoff thing?

We got bigger fish to fry than to worry about some shady two-bit lobbyist who is squeaky clean compared to ANY Democrat in Congress, namely Dodd, Conyers, Rangel, etc.

60
We are very grateful that there were so few deaths and we will survive ... but we will remember in November and in 2012 ...

Posted by: jackson at May 08, 2010 07:24 PM (LqE3S)

I'm sorry you went through so much, Glad you still are tough! fight on.

61 "Anti-incumbent fever" is just standard MFM-speak for "we don't want to tell you what this really means".

62 You know, this is another sign that the political class really has woken up the sleeping giant.  Traditionally as long as you said you were a conservative at election time, you got re-elected. If our reps can now be shown that trending left after being elected will have consequences, it is a very good thing for America, and a very bad thing for RINOs and fake-moderate Democrats.

63 There is no one who would more like to be rid of Lindsey Graham than I, but get real!  SC isn't Utah, we don't nominate by convention.  Sure, a serious and well-funded conservative candidate might be able to beat him in a primary, but no one with enough juice to raise that kind of money is going to stick their neck out to do it, sorry.

Raise $5 million in a "conservative challenger for Lindsey" Fund (be sure to observe FEC regs in doing it), THEN invite challengers to apply for consideration.  That might work.

Unfortunately, that's about the only thing that might, unless a White Knight who can self-fund appears magically.

64

If only Bennett creased his pants better.

And the fucking prick cried like a goddamned baby.

65 Tennessee floods.  President laying up short and hoping for an up and down par.

http://tinyurl.com/245tedd

66
It would be funny if Bennett ran as an Independent, wouldn't it?

You know he's thinking about it. You know it.

67 66, Rome fell. It can happen.

68
haha, the Pink Sox are gettin beat

69 Wow, Sean and Rachel Duffy have six children already?

And Rachel is still a looker!

70

 You know, this is another sign that the political class really has woken up the sleeping giant.  Traditionally as long as you said you were a conservative at election time, you got electeeven Dems have to look Conservative to win.

even Obama, said conservative keywords, when he wasn't winking hope , change and i'll give you some.

71

Adjoran, scott brown. money bombs

that's all

72 Hey wait, would someone of that age refresh my memory: Someone said Sean Duffy's wife was on The Real World.

Was Rachel the Cuban chick from the first season who was a friend of Puck and the gay dude?

73
These asshole Republicans (I'm looking at you, Fiorina, etc.) need to learn this is not the year to be running anywhere near the middle.

74 You know if the GOP keeps acting this ruthlessly they may start being compared to the Democrats when it comes to treating politics as something other than a hobby. The old style" go along to get along" is rightfully under attack. Bennett was the first shot.

75 A lot of GOPers deserve to pay a heavy price for their big government moves under Bush.

76 I wonder who Hugh Hewitt will say this helps ???

77

with one or two very minor exceptions, I wouldn't have cast them any differently even if I'd known at the time it would cost me my career

 

If this is a direct quote, the part I highlighted might have something to do with why he's gone. It sholdn't be a frackin "career"

78 The story you cite from the Salt Lake Trib is actually a re-write from an earlier story posted about an hour before (they used the same URL) saying that Bennett had made it through the second round.  Glad I got that screen cap.

79 "And the fucking prick cried like a goddamned baby." Can hardly blame the poor fella. One more term and he would've been allowed into the secret Masonic Temple hidden under the Capitol. Plus, Teddy K. isn't around to haze him for being a "newbie" anymore. Sorry, Bob, you gotta go. Don't let the massively inflated sense of self-importance hit you in the ass on your way out.

80
is that who Rachel is?

I remember the episode when she came back from an event with Jack Kemp and she was beaming with conservative pride.

81

jjshaka , or as a liftetime career. They forgot, they are supposed to reflect OUR interests not theirs.

82

I'm ready for the Moron Evacuation from Kalifornia, I'll be on my rooftop.

Look for the chopper with an ewok eating a unicorn painted on it.

And make sure you've got Rum and her stompy boots with you.

83 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Campos-Duffy#The_Real_World:_San_Francisco

84 Zombie---That's a load of crap, you're either a McCainite or a reader of the MFM. J.D is head and shoulders above the back stabbing parasite. The next Senator from Arizona will be the winner of the Republican primary, you can make book on it, so save yor concern for some one who gives a shit.

85

We're awake.  We have had "sex made to us" against our will the last 2 years.

If you area a Senator and you don't walk the walk.  You are bye bye.

Bennett did WHAT for us??

 

86 Interesting how when they lose, despite their wealth, these guys are just terrified of having to find real jobs - in other words, of doing something else with their lives.  They just draw a blank.

87 Sorry. http://tinyurl.com/22ryl5m

88

These asshole Republicans (I'm looking at you, Fiorina, etc.) need to learn this is not the year to be running anywhere near the middle.

I know! That's why I'll tell you what you want to hear and then LEAP across the aisle once I'm elected!

I'm gonna fuck you chumps in the ass so hard it'll hurt. And that's just for starters! Wait until I send all of your jobs overseas! You assclowns will all be working in a sweatshop for a dime an hour when I'm finished with you.

89

With Duffy and Paul Ryan,  Wisconsin will be like a GIANT CHICK MAGNET.

 

I'll be trolling for leftovers.

 

90

Way off-topic: Happy VE+65.

91 Posted by: I Need A Beer at May 08, 2010 07:59 PM (iu4CX)

--Ah, so that was not the first season of The Real World, but I did guess the right cast member.  She's still a babe.  Go Sean!

92

Fiorina is a Sinead O'Connor wannabee lib is Republicans clothing.

You cannot expect anything better in California.  A Republican in California is a start.  She'd be right of Collins and Snowe.

93 The MFM is acting as if booting a long-time party soldier like Bennett is a right-wing thing.  Just ask Joe Lieberman.

94 Rum and her Stompy Boots. You Betcha!

95 Mormons are real social conservatives, maybe Mitt will get the nomination

96 Cornyn should be worried. After the crap the NRSC is pulling in Florida, Colorado, CA and elsewhere, he is definitely on The List...

97

The trouble is, he let the conservatives get within 21 feet.  Now, just look at him: hacked down in the primary.

(Learn from his mistake, Saxby...)

98 Kahlee-fornya ain't Utah, chief.

99 Am I the only who doesn't give a shit about the Abramoff thing?

Posted by: Dynomutt sees dead people at May 08, 2010 07:48 PM (tMSKg)

Not at all. The whole Abramoff affair was small potatoes and had nothing to do with the actual running of the government. Too many conservatives bought the MFM's bullshit about Abramoff and think that there is any comparison between that and what the dems do (which affects actual governance and rapes the Constitution and American values).

The Abramoff affair was like a kid shoplifting gum from a store, versus the dems' armed robbery and shooting of hostages in that same store. No comparison, whatsoever - and it is sickening to hear people claim that Abramoff was anything more sinister than that. People are fooled into believing lots of things.

100 McCain's ass is chewing his seat right now.

101 Fiorina is a Sinead O'Connor wannabee

I'm pretty sure the hair is because of her cancer.  It's only been a little over a year since she was treated. 

102
How was Abramoff any different or worse than Clinton/Gore taking money from Charlie Tree, or whatever his name was?

103 I think after the elections this fall Mitt will wise up and sell suits for a living.

104 106 I think after the elections this fall Mitt will wise up and sell suits for a living.

Posted by: eman at May 08, 2010 08:10 PM (ONBbr)

or hair products?

105 If we need a self funded candidate in S.C. to defeat Lindsey than we're pretty much screwed . Very few people here have that Bloomberg , Romney kinda' cash . The few that might have a big stash of greenbacks have no interest in politics .

106 How was Abramoff any different or worse than Clinton/Gore taking money from Charlie Tree, or whatever his name was?

Posted by: Dynomutt sees dead people at May 08, 2010 08:09 PM (Szkjn)

Abramoff wasn't even in the same ballpark, as Clinton/Gore were empowering the Chinese - foreign enemies (no matter what Washington says) - and there was more to the Clinton/Gore team empowering the Chinese than merely taking money. Too much more that should have been heard in a courtroom.

107

98 Mormons are real social conservatives, maybe Mitt will get the nomination

Posted by: Bill C at May 08, 2010 08:06 PM (I+7Zv)

Romney as the 2012 GOP presidential candidate is already a foregone conclusion. Tell me something I don't know.

108

Goddammit! How are these fuckheads finding out what we're doing to them in Washington, D.C.? It's not like the media tell them the truth.

WHO THE FUCK IS RATTING US OUT?!?

109

my humble opinion.

this is not an anti-incumbant tsunami

this is an anti-liberal tsunamai

it took a far far far radical lefty like Obama to push moderate/conservative dems out of the party, makes independents loath the socialist dem. party and make them go with a V8-like commercial-like *slap to the forehead* and back CONSERVATIVE candidate.

they are pushing back against the socialistist demon's rat's party and pushing back against any conservative-lite repubs.

the thing they are pushing back against in anyone who participated in bring this country to this point, deeply in debt, more beuracratic crap layers, calling everyone a freaking racist for wanting laws enforced, treating the US Constitution like toilet paper, bailing out failed companies rather than letting them fail, intruding in every freaking part of our economy, instead of fighting for the american people fighting for their own careers!

This is what people are pissed off about! Conservatism is Americanism, and people are increasingly figuring this out, they have been played and they are pissed.

110 ... these 70+ year old guys running for additional 6 year terms? being a Senator must be an extraordinary daily tongue bath. What are they getting that we don't hear about?

111
The Abramoff thing was a manufactured scandal. I vividly remember Howard Dean on Meet the Press with Tim Russert assuring Russert, convincing him it was a Republican scandal.

Russert was asking Dean about all the Democrats involved with Abramoff. Howard Dean waved him off like Obiwan Kenobi and said, "Tim, this is a Republican scandal."

You goys remember that?

112 Romney as the 2012 GOP presidential candidate is already a foregone conclusion. Tell me something I don't know. Posted by: Ed Anger The GOP voters are hungry and they want a nice, thick, juicy steak. Mitt is a chicken salad sandwich overloaded with mayo.

113

You goys remember that?

Who you callin' goy, boy?

114 "Q: How much does Bennett's loss signal Romney trouble? Romney also backed TARP, also had healthplan."

Frum worries over mitt on twitter.

115 I'm with 112# john the ex.

116 If she tosses her stompy boots into the ring, the GOP nomination is her's for the taking.

117 There could be a problem for the Republicans if Bennett follows through on his threat earlier this evening to run as a write-in candidate in the Fall, thereby splitting the Rep vote and letting a Dem squeeze in.

118 I don't think rum's 30 yet

119
oh, I didn't know we had any 'friends of Abraham' with us right now.

120 The "Purge the RINO's" thing is instinctive, and I understand it.  But combat politics is still operational, and you can see lots of shills for certain candidates *cough-Keyes* *subliminal mumble-Romney* claiming the others are RINO's. Go watch the beat-downs at Freeper-land to see the accusations in full force.

But the recent turn of events bizarre involves the mathematically challenged True Believers who think certain "pure" cons with little money have a chance against massively funded, imperfect cons (meaning nearly all of them), who already have endorsements from right-to-life and NRA type groups. Sure, it's good to hold folks' feetsies to the fire, but at some point clarity and logic have to penetrate the fog. Why damage a strong candidate when your favorite has no chance? (Crist is a special case - he's no longer likely to caucus with Republicans, so he's effectively a Dem, again.)

Also, note the uproar over Palin's endorsements. So far she's had a good record there, picking winners.  She may lose on McCain, but that's not totally a loss for her since her loyalty carries major impact in the political sphere.  How much impact and where?  Consider this: JDHayworth, if he wins, need feel no inherent sense of loyalty to Palin.  Fine. But look at all the others she has endorsed.  Her proven loyalty (to McCain and to the vets running for the first time) will help keep those endorsees on her side. I suspect the vision of recent winners, enthusiastically endorsing her in 2012, will look a helluva lot better to the voters than some poor guy that has to strongarm, deal, and spin endorsements out of thin air.

One more set of points about JD Hayworth: If he wins, he goes in knowing full well she had to endorse his opponent to maintain this strategically valuable loyalty factor, and we all know this.  Further he's not running against any positions held by Palin, so there's little room for him to claim leadership of any movement on that basis. (Also, Hayworth is neither "new," nor an outsider by any stretch, whereas most of her endorsees are, which is of greater value to the Tea Party folks than just Throwing The Bums Out.) So his value to the Tea Party movement is not what some folks would like to think.

So the purity Cons need to remember: Baby, bathwater, it's not all the same.

Disclaimer: I'm fine with JD, and even DeVore.  I also agree that Duncan Hunter would look great in the Oval Office.  But I also want to be a 20-year old rock musician with a lifetime of disgusting behavior before me.  I'm not gonna claim you are insane for telling me it won't happen.

(Again.)

121

Mitt, did Mass Care, in these times with all of our worries, I just don't think He'll make it.

We are afraid of debt. i know He represented His constiuents but, It caused debt, and was one more rock on our corpse.

122

If she tosses her stompy boots into the ring, the GOP nomination is her's for the taking.

Rum is running for office?

When I'm elected president, I'm appointing Rum to the Supreme Court. Along with Dang Straights, Blazer, Dr. Spank, eman, and whomever else I decide upon.

You gotta admit you'd love reading those legal rulings...

123 Johnc is correct.  The Republican party drifted to the left and got assfucked by the LIBTARDS.  We didn't like getting cornholed and now it's out turn.

124 Bennett was a liberal who needed to go, but this "purge the RINOs" thing bothers me. You could end up nominating a buffoon like Hayworth, who implodes and hands over a safe seat to the Dems.

Posted by: Zombie Elvis follows politics, too at May 08, 2010 07:25 PM (Ks4nX)

This argument would be more persuasive if McCain wasn't a buffoon who hands over his vote to the Dems on a semi-regular basis.

125
sorry, K-bob, but we need to go 'all in' and not worry 'electability' this year.

This is not the year to be safe. Balls to the wall in 2010! Because if we don't take a big dent out of the Democrats' power this year, we're finished.

126

115 Romney as the 2012 GOP presidential candidate is already a foregone conclusion. Tell me something I don't know.
Posted by: Ed Anger

The GOP voters are hungry and they want a nice, thick, juicy steak.

Mitt is a chicken salad sandwich overloaded with mayo.

Posted by: eman at May 08, 2010 08:15 PM (ONBbr)

Chicken? Steak? The Republican base will be lucky to get oats in 2012. I have no faith in the GOP.

127

Romney as the 2012 GOP presidential candidate is already a foregone conclusion. Tell me something I don't know.

 

You mean like Hillary was a shoo in for the democrats in 2008?

128 "This might serve as a warning shot not so much to moderate conservatives in swing states but moderate conservatives in conservative states (hello Lindsey Graham!) that they need to get with the program."

Dear South Carolina,

I'd like a moment with you if you can spare it. Did I call you all "bigots"? I'm sorry you took offense at my misspeaking. I meant "my Friends." Oh, wait. That's not it either. Crap. BRB. [*Someone get me my focus group guru, stat!*]

129

oh, I didn't know we had any 'friends of Abraham' with us right now.

I'm not a FOA, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

And I've been called a putz before, so it kinda counts.

130 Rum is running for office?

Rum?  Who is this Rum person?  Harrumph!  Of course, if she has an ONT fan club, then that's something....

I meant Sarah, Sarah Palin - Queen of the wild frontier.  She puts the stomp in stompy boots and I figure she's gonna stomp her way to the nomination in '12.

131 60

Except in New Jersey and Massachusetts. There are no safe seats.

132

Romney as the 2012 GOP presidential candidate is already a foregone conclusion. Tell me something I don't know.

 

You mean like Hillary was a shoo in for the democrats in 2008?

Posted by: huerfano at May 08, 2010 08:22 PM (qEf7Y)

You seriously underestimate our ability to fuck ourselves over.

133 oh, I didn't know we had any 'friends of Abraham' with us right now.

Posted by: Dynomutt sees dead people at May 08, 2010 08:18 PM (Szkjn)

Infidel! WE are the True Friends and Seed of Abraham!  Not those sons of pigs and apes!

Now, make me a sammich!  (Pastrami, sliced not too thin, on corn rye with cole slaw and Russian dressing, please.)

134 so long, RINO squish, and don't let the door hit you in the ass...

135

When I'm elected president, I'm appointing Rum to the Supreme Court. Along with Dang Straights, Blazer, Dr. Spank, eman, and whomever else I decide upon.

You gotta admit you'd love reading those legal rulings...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 08, 2010 08:19 PM (P33XN)

--Just put me in charge of trade policy.

136 I meant Sarah, Sarah Palin - Queen of the wild frontier.  She puts the stomp in stompy boots and I figure she's gonna stomp her way to the nomination in '12.

Posted by: mrp at May 08, 2010 08:26 PM (HjPtV)

I don't think she spends a lot of time in stompy boots.  Either running shoes or work boots.

137 Have ya'll seen this? ... a video of a UCLA tenured professor practically advocating treason? ... why is this not played by the media ... oh, yeah .... that would be racist ... http://weaselzippers.us/ I tried to just get a link to the video itself but it is on weasel zippers ...

138

Just put me in charge of trade policy.

If'n you can do something about the jobs situation, it's yours.

I'm thinking Jan Brewer as the head of ICE...or if Rum doesn't want the SCOTUS, seat, she can be the head of ICE. I guarantee you the illegal problem would be cleared up REAL fast.

139 "This is not the year to be safe. Balls to the wall in 2010! Because if we don't take a big dent out of the Democrats' power this year, we're finished.

Posted by: Dynomutt sees dead people at May 08, 2010 08:21 PM (tMSKg)"

You do see the contradiction here, right? No wins, no dent in the Dem's power.

140 Web search "Sarah Palin stompy boots"  heh.

141

Web search "Sarah Palin stompy boots"  heh.

I'm still looking for the pic where she went to NYC as vice presidential candidate and she's walking out of some building looking amazing and you can see a couple of cops in the background just staring at her.

142

Seriously -- this is great news but I can see the mainstream Republican leaders fighting this trend like a stubborn mule. I don't mean to be a downer but it seems that no matter what we do they insist the only way to succeed is to be Democrat Lite. Their stupidity was evident in 2006 and 2008 yet they're still digging their heels in in 2012.

Pisses me off royally, if you know what I mean.

143

Does Bennett have four legs?

144 Bennett is under fire for voting to bail out Wall Street, co-sponsoring a bipartisan bill mandating health insurance coverage and for aggressively pursuing earmarks.

Bennett's the dirty porker in Berkshire Hathaway's pocket who didn't show up (along with Kit Bond of MO) to filibuster the Senate endless bailouts financial reform bill. Someone else said it: he made one too many deals with the Dems. If he was gonna be like that, he should have just joined them to begin with. If he pulls a Specter or Crist move, he's showing his true blue colors.

145 Good ride, people of Utah.  This is exactly what needs to happen:  Keep the trustworthy incumbents, kick out the RINO's.  Recalibrate the party from within so the GOP isn't merely Diet Socialism.

146 143 "This is not the year to be safe. Balls to the wall in 2010! Because if we don't take a big dent out of the Democrats' power this year, we're finished.

Posted by: Dynomutt sees dead people at May 08, 2010 08:21 PM (tMSKg)"

You do see the contradiction here, right? No wins, no dent in the Dem's power.

Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 08:37 PM (9b6FB)

we see that we all want the same thing, fiscal conservatives, bringing our country back from the brink.

we'll hope GOP wants the same thing.

many of us might not want to say at this point, when momentum is on OUR side, we'll settle.

isn't that where we should be/ fighting with all we have at this point

147 Dack, if you find that pic, link it, okay?

148 Texas needs to follow suit.

149

If'n you can do something about the jobs situation, it's yours.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 08, 2010 08:36 PM (P33XN) 

--Simple.  Exports create jobs.  We can't generate exports with low-cost labor by importing a helot class from Mexico, but by the world's brightest.

150 I've been posting for quite a while that LG will exit his closet and his senate seat in 2014. 

SC R's have grown increasingly tired of his charade and constant reach arounds across the isle for B to the O.   His fate was sealed during the town hall circus and his subsequent self comparison to Reagan.

If Bennett's quote noted in #12 is accurate, then he's not only tone-deaf, he's not conservative. 

Buh bye. 

151 Sarah Palin stompy boots... my favorite is

LANCASTER, PA - OCTOBER 18: Republican vice presidential candidate Alaska Governor Sarah Palin holding her son Trig, arrives at a " Road to Victory Rally " at Clipper Magazine Stadium October 18, 2008 in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Both the Republican and Democratic parties have acknowledged that Pennsylvania is one of the most important states in the November 4 election. (Photo by Jeff Fusco/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Sarah Palin

152

"isn't that where we should be/ fighting with all we have at this point

Posted by: cardboard willow at May 08, 2010 08:41 PM (7FgWm) "

Where's the non-cardboard willow? <insert emoticon here>

Anyway, yeah, we should be fighting for the issues.  And reminding the beltway dipshits that things like Bennett losing are not just dumb luck.  If they don't smell the napalm in the morning, they won't know they are in combat.

I'm just amazed ta the same old RINO accusations coming hard and fast.  It's like the lefties and the Raaaaacism! charge. Becomes a real yawner.

153 You do see the contradiction here, right? No wins, no dent in the Dem's power.

Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 08:37 PM (9b6FB)

That is decent reasoning for normal times.  These are not normal times.  This nation is just about to go under (it is highly likely that we are beyond the point of no return, already) and the only chance of saving it is with a last ditch effort to right the direction of the increasingly monstrous federal government (which Bennet was supporting all the way, as either of his amnesty vote or his attempt to have the federal government impose an individual health insurance mandate would have been more than enough to toss his ass as far away from DC as possible).  As Sun Tzu would advise, the GOP must be put on death ground for the coming election.  That is the only way to have any chance of seeing them fight for the nation.  Otherwise, dickhead traitors like Lindsey Grahamnesty will help the Indonesian Imbecile and his Washington junta destroy our nation - literally.  This is a last stand.  Make no mistake about it.  This nation will surely not survive dem rule, or even dems and dickhead RINOs.

154 Shit.

All we got here in AZ  against McCain is J.D. Hayworth???

He's a fucking goon.

Don't get me wrong, I'm going to vote for him and all....

But he's a goon.

155 Have ya'll seen this? ... a video of a UCLA tenured professor practically advocating treason? ... why is this not played by the media ... oh, yeah .... that would be racist ...

i watched.  I don't know if it's more frightening or hysterical.  The fact that this clown is a tenured academic says more about Academia then America.  These morons just don't get it.  Socialism is an ideology FOR losers, promulgated BY losers.  It defies human nature and denies individual excellence. 

156 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2010 08:46 PM (mHQ7T)

--Dude, you can;t tease us like that and leave us linkless.

157

UCLA Prof calls for a Mexican Revolution against "White People" in the U.S. at a La Raza rally.

http://bit.ly/cAWrV1

Phony Chicano accent and all. At least we should be grateful he gave the speech in English. God knows what is being said in Spanish that the MFM will never translate.

158 141 Jim Hoft is on it:

http://tinyurl.com/35p6v55

159

k,bob, i hear you,

 passions are high, we want to win the fight of our souls (country's life). so maybe that's why some of us  feel a lttle hyper  and emotional about it all.

160 Bennett was a decent senator. But these aren't Seats-For-Life.  Sometimes, it's just time for a change; but we shouldn't slander the man. He served well.--it's just a new day.

161

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 08, 2010 08:48 PM (oIp16)

and these are the anti-America freaks who are now running the demon's rat party. and they wonder why ex-dems are fleeing from the demon's rat's party and getting a restraining order from them.

162

Simple.  Exports create jobs.  We can't generate exports with low-cost labor by importing a helot class from Mexico, but by the world's brightest.

Welcome to the administration! As a cost cutting measure, we're phasing out salaries. You'll be paid in cases of Valu-Rite.

163

--Simple.  Exports create jobs.  We can't generate exports with low-cost labor by importing a helot class from Mexico, but by the world's brightest.

Posted by: logprof at May 08, 2010 08:44 PM (Mmw0q)

Also, slash bureaucratic overhead. Every line of federal law reduces the efficiency of American business in the global economy. Yes, some of it is necessary. Much of it is not. 

And I would also think implementing a fast track program for power plants, refineries, and energy acquisition projects would not only provide a small number of immediate jobs, but a permanent positive effect on the job front overall.

Manufacturing, and to a lesser extent the tech sector, have a major expense in the cost of energy. Reduce those costs and they have room to expend into more markets or improve their market share in existing markets - both of which mean more jobs...

164 All we got here in AZ  against McCain is J.D. Hayworth??

There's something of a "rifle on the roof" psychosis that scares me about Hayworth

165

He's calling for a revolution.  Right?

So it's okay if someone puts a bullet in his head?   Right?

I mean isn't that how revolutions work?

166

Old & Busted:  The Bushies, Mittens, Rove, Linseed and McLame.

New Hawtness:  Sarah Palin, Paul Ryan, Jason Chaffetz, Michele Bachmann.

(Jury's still out on Jim DeMint.  I used to think he was totally solid, and then he does something stupid like stick up for Linseed when Linseed was putshing for Crap & Tax.  Then DeMint comes out for Rubio, who was batting 1000.  Rubio starts hanging around Jeb Bush and Rove and gives the thumbs down to the AZ immigration plan.  WTF?)

167 Phony Chicano accent and all. At least we should be grateful he gave the speech in English. God knows what is being said in Spanish that the MFM will never translate.

Just like Arabic in the mosques

168

I don't know much about the 2 candidates, they both sound very conservative, which I like.

Liberty pundits has an interview with Mike Lee.

169

UCLA Prof calls for a Mexican Revolution against "White People" in the U.S. at a La Raza rally.

http://bit.ly/cAWrV1

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 08, 2010 08:48 PM (oIp16)

It's just the 60's being replayed.  The same arguments from the same idiots about the same imbecilic ideas.  The difference, sadly, is that in the 60's the radical leaders were running around doped up in the streets causing problems and laying bombs here and there (per The Precedent's buddy).  This time, the radicals are holding all of the levers of actual power.  That ought to scare everyone, because this will end the same way the 60's ended, except that you can multiply the 60's by 10000 to take into account that those who will come crashing down will do so from inside the beltway and will be taking America down with them.

This was all readily apparent in the Presidential campaign.  America had a psychotic break from the credit crisis and, in their despair and confusion, America decided to go for national suicide by electing the 60's radicals to run the country.  It will end very badly, but it will not be a surprise.  Those cities that burned in the riots of the 60's will be child's play compared to what we have coming.  Child's play.

170

He's calling for a revolution.  Right?  So it's okay if someone puts a bullet in his head?   Right?  I mean isn't that how revolutions work?

That's how his sainted T-shirt boy Guevara did it.  But he also gunned innocents down en masse.  Oh, well, ya gotta break some eggs....

171 Has anything been done yet about closing the Fucking Open Primaries (FOPs) in the states the put McCain over the top last time? Y'all remember that - how in some states Dems can vote in the Rep primary... that's what put McCain over the top.

With Obamavich running un-opposed the Dem turnout will be much larger in those FOPs this time.

172 "That is decent reasoning for normal times. These are not normal times."

I agree with the sentiment, but disagree with the implication. Reality bites, whether in normal times or not. For example, Palin's endorsement of Fiorina puts a fork in DeVore's candidacy. He's done. Now either Fiorina wins, or the seat stays Dem.

This is simple math. It doesn't matter if DeVore's supporters like it or not. It's done.

Palin picked the winner who will owe her. Made sure she was certified in the right issues, and made the decision. It will pay off for Palin, and the anti-Palin types will have a helluva time making the case Palin is a RINO. That puts them in the fringe, whther they are "technically" right or not.

173 During the immigration debate two years ago, the transplants from California now living in St. George, were screaming in Bennett's ear "Don't do it" along with everyone else in the state of Utah. But he went ahead and did it anyway, and supported that crazy-ass amnesty bill.
Karma is a bitch.

174 Posted by: 18-1 at May 08, 2010 08:51 PM (bgcml)

--No worries.  I'd be all over that.

I've also been reassured the Val-U-Rite is in the mail.

175 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2010 08:46 PM (mHQ7T)

Oh, this one?

176 There's something of a "rifle on the roof" psychosis that scares me about Hayworth

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 08, 2010 08:51 PM (y4B2y)

There's something of a "creepy and eccentric grandpa" psychosis that scares me about McCain.

177 179 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2010 08:46 PM (mHQ7T)

Oh, this one?

Posted by: stuiec at May 08, 2010 08:58 PM (W+GYq)

Oooooh Yeah!

178

passions are high, we want to win the fight of our souls (country's life). so maybe that's why some of us feel a lttle hyper and emotional about it all.

Posted by: willow at May 08, 2010 08:50 PM (7FgWm)

I totally agree. Does anyone else feel sort of the way they did after 911? Back then we were all arguing so damned heatedly that most of us had to take a vacation from political discussion to avoid smacking each other.

179 Am I the only who doesn't give a shit about the Abramoff thing?

Yes. I appreciate that the GOP is tougher on their crooks than the Democrats, but a crook on either side is useless to me.

180 Cardboard first!

181 127 - +1 I'd rather get one in the chest from the enemy than one in the back from my own troops. If AZ provides the 50th+ Dem in November, you can say we told you so. I'm 12-stepping toward RINO-neutrality as much as possible, but can't quite find the serenity to make peace with Maverick (or Graham, or the Maine Sisters). If the crapweasels had a definable ideology or even a predictable stand on most issues* I could live with their Maverickyness, but most of the usual suspect RINO's cross the base out of raw opportunism plus some love-nibbles from the MSM - they stand around with their fingers to the wind and never take a stand until they identify where the "center" is on that given day. * think O'Reilly - he's an ideological grab-bag but you can tell how he's going to jump 90% of the time

182

 http://tinyurl.com/2fq6t8q

Palin stompy boots.

183 Cannibalism, quite a spectacle.

184 Please. Another guy who needs to update his Che Merchandise: http://tinyurl.com/2aj4wtg Jesus.

185 Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 08:57 PM (9b6FB)

I don't think Palin has anywhere near the power you assume she does.  Her endorsement is not a seal of approval, of any sort.  She screwed up royally supporting McShame and her support of Fiorina is another mistake.  The Tea Partiers are not going to follow her blindly.

I like Palin.  I have since she came on the scene.  I have defended her many times when the most of the right was confused or against her (as with her decision to leave the governor's job in Alaska) but I don't really care who she endorses.  I would guess that my thoughts are not uncommon among the Tea Partiers and conservatives (not "conservative pundits" but actual conservatives). 

Hayworth should beat McShame and then he should go on to win the seat.  Regardless of Palin's awful mistake in supporting the worst republican in the Senate - and someone who MUST be forced out.  The "loyalty" argument makes no sense.  I don't care about Palin's personal friends or personal obligations.  McShame is a danger to this nation and a total shithead and cannot be endorsed by anyone who calls himself a conservative.  I let Palin slide for that - and for her FIorina mistake - but I don't forget them.  Palin just makes her endorsements worth less and less each time she does this.  Frankly, her endorsements mean absolutely zilch to me.  All they do is draw some national attention where it might not have been before.

186 188, At last, clarity. Clear as cardboard.

187 "--Simple.  Exports create jobs.  We can't generate exports with low-cost labor by importing a helot class from Mexico, but by the world's brightest."

My favorite Ayn Rand quote:

"Production is the solution to the problem of survival."

We have a bizarre mindset here that's killing us.  Here, prosperity is seen as something for the rich. In India, seeking prosperity is viewed as a duty of all husbands. Thus, the general populace is cool with the notion of prosperity, even for the lower classes.  They instinctively feel a rising tide lifts all boats.

188 snapdragon's a pansy

189 Cannibalism, quite a spectacle.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 08, 2010 09:04 PM (5Etcj)

You're eatting pussy?

190 I totally agree. Does anyone else feel sort of the way they did after 911? Back then we were all arguing so damned heatedly that most of us had to take a vacation from political discussion to avoid smacking each other.

Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 09:01 PM (9b6FB)I wasn't online until years after that, but yes, I was angry and stood behind leaders i thought stood for us.

191 188 Cannibalism, quite a spectacle.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 08, 2010 09:04 PM (5Etcj)

Yeah, it's a bitch too.

192 Am I the only who doesn't give a shit about the Abramoff thing?

I give a shit about the Abramoff thing, just like I give a shit about the spending thing, and it's why the Repubs are in the minority.  You can't run as a small-government, good-government politician, and then go to Washington and scoop up the pelf and swag like Murtha and the Dems.  That's gold-plated hypocrisy and they deserved to get their asses handed to them.  I hope they learned.

193 187

 http://tinyurl.com/2fq6t8q

Palin stompy boots.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 08, 2010 09:04 PM (W8m8i)

Bless you! I'll be in my BUNK the rest of the evening!

194 Bless you! I'll be in my BUNK the rest of the evening!

Posted by: conscious and in love with Sarah at May 08, 2010 09:10 PM (YVZlY)

Or the next 43 seconds, whichever comes first.

195 Has anything been done yet about closing the Fucking Open Primaries (FOPs) in the states the put McCain over the top last time? Y'all remember that - how in some states Dems can vote in the Rep primary... that's what put McCain over the top.

With Obamavich running un-opposed the Dem turnout will be much larger in those FOPs this time.

This should be goal number one.

196 progress,

Your premise is that she doesn't have the clout I think she has.  I don't see anyone with her fan base in politics right now, and that includes Obama (when you factor out ACORN and SEIU).

The result is that you may not like her choices, but you have an incredibly tough sell convincing folks she's a RINO.  You'd have to be as powerful as Rush, Glenn Beck, and <insert favorite here> combined, to convince enough people you are right.  And for what?

That's the problem the purists face.  For what?  To go down in flames and get a salute for a fight (almost) well-fought?

What a frikkin' waste.  We need to win control to be able to repeal Obamacare.  You don't do that by losing important battles.  Everyone was so happy about Brown's win.  Now it's long knives.  For what?

197 These asshole Republicans (I'm looking at you, Fiorina, etc.) need to learn this is not the year to be running anywhere near the middle.

She's never even been in office! You keep complaining you want more people in office with private sector experience. You want Boxer out of office in CA. Who's gonna do it? The antisemite? The spoiler? Campbell's a loser. Quit the whining about Fiorina and go after the people who have been in DC too long.

198 "You're eatting pussy?"

Hey, if you can't beat the Democrats you might as well feed on each other.

199

Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 08, 2010 09:05 PM (Qp4DT)

ok I know you've blown up at me before over my decision to back McCain over Hayworth but do you honestly think a guy who was voted out of office, has favorables worse then the dems running in the state can win that election if (God forbid) he gets the nomination? Hayworth wins and dems take that seat, I'll eat crow if it turns out I'm wrong and he goes all the way (and he won't be my favorite GOP senator if he does) but he'll destroy any chances/hope we can take back or even the senate.

btw can we please stop w/ this McShame, McLame crap? this man was a POW prisoner in Vietnam who refused to return to the states unless his comrades came back with him, costing him more torture. I know he's satan himself to the base (which I've never understood, if anyone should be treated that way it should be Graham), and he has done things to piss me off, and yes I only voted in 08 because Palin was on the ticket, but damn let's stop treating the man as if he was some ACORN endorsed guy, Crist is more deplorable then Mac.

I know this causes most morons to declare war on my position (just as my position on the Puerto Rico statehood thing did), but I have to say my peace. this "purge the GOP" thing is something we should have done during the 90s, we can't afford it these days w/ the Obama administration.

when the base starts crying "RINO!" at Palin, Coburn, or even freaking Rubio over 1 or 2 disagreements with them it worries me this purist attitude is going too far, I do think the time for guys like Mac to go has come but do we really have to replace them with the likes of JD Hayworth?

and thus I prepare for the backlash for daring to defend McCain, something I thought i'd never be doing after the election

200 Hey, if you can't beat the Democrats you might as well feed on each other.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 08, 2010 09:18 PM (5Etcj)

Tell that to Coakley, Corzine, and Deeds.  Also, you seem to be confusing "funny" with "stupid."

201

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2010 09:18 PM (mHQ7T)

well said, these purist folks better back the candidates we have in the midterms and the Presidential nominee in 2012, we can focus on "purity" when we're in the position we were in the 90s, not when we're at war taking back the country from a party that has welcomed in socialism and the destruction of our constitution

202 Posted by: stuiec at May 08, 2010 08:58 PM (W+GYq)

Thanks! I don't know that tiny url stuff or linky stuff. But that picture is my favorite of stompy boots, and she's holding her baby. Liberal heads explode.

203

btw can we please stop w/ this McShame, McLame crap? this man was a POW prisoner in Vietnam who refused to return to the states unless his comrades came back with him, costing him more torture.

He's been over-thanked already. Besides, you could have said almost the same thing for "Duke Cunningham". They both served their country honorably back in the day, but are now a liability. It's time McCain goes.

204 You guys are missing Mongolian Death Worms on Syfy.  Priorities, please.  Sheesh.

205

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 08, 2010 09:10 PM (y4B2y)

ditto, 100% agree

Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 09:17 PM (9b6FB)

100% agree, problem with progress (and I don't mean this as any disrespect towards you progress) is that they're a die-hard bleeding purist conservative who seems to be more comfortable with finding a more pure GOP at a time that the party has to stand together against a regime, a fucking regime that threatens to sink this country to some horrible days ahead

206 more Palin stompy boots

207 The distinguished gentleman from Arizona can best serve his country from here on out by stepping down.

208 logprof, are you still hitting the Bushmills?

209

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 08, 2010 09:24 PM (oIp16)

read further if you didn't, I agree it's time for him to go, but JD Hayworth? really? all I'm asking is a little respect

210 I know he's satan himself to the base (which I've never understood, if anyone should be treated that way it should be Graham)

McCain-Feingold
McCain-Kennedy
McCain Lieberman
Sucking up to the MFM
Bashing Republicans
Calling his own side racist/bigots
Spawning MeggieMac

He's done a whole lot more damage than Graham.

211 211 more Palin stompy boots

Posted by: Jones at May 08, 2010 09:27 PM (JL3qV)

--Ch-chkachkaaaaa!

212 more Palin not stompy boots

213 btw can we please stop w/ this McShame, McLame crap?

Prog doesn't call people by their proper names or titles. He blows up easily. He is ready for the armed resistance, the black helicopters and secession. But he talks a lot. He has all the time in the world to tell you why you're wrong.

214 Jane
Is it as bad as I think it is?

215 213 logprof, are you still hitting the Bushmills?

Posted by: mpfs,cardboard fish stick at May 08, 2010 09:28 PM (QuP9W)

--Yup.  But now mixing it with coke.

216 more Palin stompy boots

Posted by: Jones at May 08, 2010 09:27 PM (JL3qV)

Fierce!

217 Hey, if you can't beat the Democrats you might as well feed on each other.

Yeah!

218

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 08, 2010 09:27 PM (UOM4

i'm watching "Ancient Aliens" on History

219

--Yup.  But now mixing it with coke.

Posted by: logprof at May 08, 2010 09:30 PM (Mmw0q)

I wish I lived in a state where you could buy booze without buying it from the government.

220 mpfs, it's worse than you think.  I'm having an exciting evening of bleaching my teeth and drinking wine.  Not in that order.  Or something.  I forget.  D'oh is camping with the Scouts, so it's me and teh kitteh girls. 

221 Damn, looks like the Canadiens will lose.  Not that I like them, I just hate Cindy.

222 >>>Your premise is that she doesn't have the clout I think she has.  I don't see anyone with her fan base in politics right now, and that includes Obama (when you factor out ACORN and SEIU).

Yes.  I don't think she has the clout you think she does.  She is popular, but that is different from having actual clout.

>>>The result is that you may not like her choices, but you have an incredibly tough sell convincing folks she's a RINO.  You'd have to be as powerful as Rush, Glenn Beck, and <insert favorite here> combined, to convince enough people you are right.  And for what?

I'm not trying to convince anyone that she's a RINO.  I don't think she's a RINO.  I just think that she has made some questionable decisions in the past (as with her temporary foray into global warming, where she tried to thread the needle when she should have been pounding the global warming idiots over the head) and has made some big mistakes in who she's endorsing.  But, I like Palin.  I just don't care about her endorsement for anything.  I don't trust her endorsement - to be more specific.  I don't see how anyone can trust the endorsements of someone who backed McShame.  If some conservatives aren't bothered by that, good for them.  But, I have to imagine that no Palin supporters would actually vote for McShame in the primary.  That is the point I am making.

>>>That's the problem the purists face.  For what?  To go down in flames and get a salute for a fight (almost) well-fought?

>>>What a frikkin' waste.  We need to win control to be able to repeal Obamacare.  You don't do that by losing important battles.  Everyone was so happy about Brown's win.  Now it's long knives.  For what?

Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 09:17 PM (9b6FB)

You mistake my view of the current situation.  I'm not a purist.  I have some very simple deal-breaker issues - which every conservative should have.  That's all.  THis country hangs by a thread, and cannot stand the same sort of stupidity that we could stand 15 years ago.  There is no margin of error, this time.  We have no credit left and there is no faith left in our federal institutions.  That is the situation and people ought to realize that.  They'll know, soon enough, as credit crisis 2.0 hits us and there will be no expensive bail-out to buy time.  The next time the monetary system cracks, it breaks ... and too many people don't understand the real hell that that entails.  And that is in addition to the powerful forces that are driving this nation towards dissolution, or at least toward a bloc of states seceding. 

Like I said before, America voted for national suicide on Nov 4th, 2008.  That is being played out, as we speak.  The only way to stop that from coming to fruition is to recognize the dire and dangerous nature of the situation and actually change it. 

223 I cannot think of a dem politician I'd like to see in those boots.There may be someone but I can't think of any.

224

I wish I lived in a state where you could buy booze without buying it from the government.

Posted by: robtr at May 08, 2010 09:31 PM (fwSHf)

--So do I.

225 Hey, if you can't beat the Democrats you might as well feed on each other.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 08, 2010 09:18 PM (5Etcj)

No cannibals here boss!

226 There's a really interesting episode of Dr. Who on.  Plus, you get to see tree-top ginger.

227 I generally despise all politicians with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns, but Sarah is yummy

the rest- mainly US Senators- strike me as overfed pimps

228 I cannot think of a dem politician I'd like to see in those boots.There may be someone but I can't think of any.

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2010 09:32 PM (ENKuc)

Barack Obama.

229 You guys are missing Mongolian Death Worms on Syfy.  Priorities, please.  Sheesh.

Nascar in HD.

230 Jane,
Upon your recommendation I just turned on Mongolian Death Worms. 

I love the description.  "Deep in Mongolia, people fall prey to giant worms."

I not bleaching my teeth but I am having a vodka.

231 Syfy has the worst special effects (and actors) evah.  My kid did a video with some fellow students when he was in middle school on some war (can't remember).  Their "special effects" and violent battle and death scenes were riveting, compared to Mongolian Death Worms. 

232 Hockey's on here.  May switch to Lakers-Jazz, since I'm not into Red Wings-Sharks

233 Deep in Mongolia, people fall prey to giant worms

Saw the previews.  Syfy shows the most delightfully crappy movies.

234

--So do I.

Posted by: logprof at May 08, 2010 09:33 PM (Mmw0q)

I refuse to buy it for that reason but man I would love to have a dewars and water right now.

235 Worm got a Mongolian!

236 BTW, anyone think Betty White's a good enough reason to catch SNL?

237

Posted by: FUBAR at May 08, 2010 09:28 PM (1fanL)

- voted against Sotomayor at the height of Obama popularity

- voted against the stimulus bill at the height of the Obama presidency

- gave us Palin

- backed Palin when everyone was bashing her and when she was at her lowest point of popularity

- was tortured for this country and yes I will not suddenly forget that, even a lefty like John Lewis gets respect for what he went through during Civil Rights

- he went after Obama at the healthcare summit

come on, let's stop treating this guy like he's the antichrist

let's look at the base's "darling" JD Hayworth:

- Abrimonoff scandal

- earmark history

- birther history (only said he wasn't after he entered the race)

stop acting like Hayworth is Jesus Christ about to take down Satan, John McCain

238 Worm got a Mongolian!

It was fated.

239 Even the locations scenes for "Mongolia" suck.  Central California, maybe?  Can't wait to get these bleach thingys out of my mouth so I can pour half a bottle of wine down my throat.

240 I give a shit about the Abramoff thing, just like I give a shit about the spending thing, and it's why the Repubs are in the minority.  You can't run as a small-government, good-government politician, and then go to Washington and scoop up the pelf and swag like Murtha and the Dems.  That's gold-plated hypocrisy and they deserved to get their asses handed to them.  I hope they learned.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 08, 2010 09:10 PM (y4B2y)

Well said. This will probably earn me some enmity, but at least the Dems are colorful. If both parties are despicable, I'll pick the cuter one. I'm shallow like that, but I'd be entertained more by Barney Frank than having to look at a toad like JD Hayworth or put up with Ron Paul, who is actually pretty amusing sometimes.

241

I refuse to buy it for that reason but man I would love to have a dewars and water right now.

Posted by: robtr at May 08, 2010 09:37 PM (fwSHf)

--I have no choice, but I do avail myself of liquor to bring home when I'm in ND.

242 Mongolian Death worms are another one of those cryptozoological animals that supposedly exist.I don't think they are supposed to be very large,just very poisonous.

243

Bennett Talks To Reporters, Starts Tearing Up

244 "You're eating pussy?"


You are what you eat.

245 Montreal finally scores.

246

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2010 09:29 PM (mHQ7T)

lol, sorry Prog, the comment was funny

247 This gray box is pissing me off!!

248

Here's what I found in a web search for Open Primary states:

Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota (caucus), Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin... 17 States.

No Democrat primary will be held unless someone runs against Obama.

Think our favorite conservative can win in those states with plenty of Dems participating?

 

 

249 I'm rooting for the Mongolian Death Worms.  Kill all the bad actors.  Kill!  Kill!

250 244 Even the locations scenes for "Mongolia" suck.  Central California, maybe?  Can't wait to get these bleach thingys out of my mouth so I can pour half a bottle of wine down my throat.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Yup, looks like Kern County to me.

251 This gray box is pissing me off!!

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2010 09:40 PM (ENKuc)

Good, you see it too. whew

252 BTW, anyone think Betty White's a good enough reason to catch SNL?

No. She's always the low point of roasts, and you can predict every skit. It's still SNL, and her shtick is older than the dirt she sleeps in.

Unless you're gay. Then it's a must-see, for pure camp.

253 Birdemic is Oscar worthy compared to this Syfy crap. 

254 Can't wait to get these bleach thingys out of my mouth so I can pour half a bottle of wine down my throat.

You could always jam a vodka-soaked tampon up your, um, exit chute.

255 247 Mongolian Death worms are another one of those cryptozoological animals that supposedly exist.I don't think they are supposed to be very large,just very poisonous.

Posted by: steevy at May 08, 2010 09:39 PM (ENKuc)

--Sounds interesting.  The thing about that cryptozoology stuff is that so many of those folks envision wildly, unrealistically large beasts, when something can be small and just as fascinating.  And then something like the twin-penised giant lizard shows up without any of them even speculating it before the fact.

256 Posted by: YRM at May 08, 2010 09:38 PM (38UQ3)

Wow, you mean a Republican Senator has done some things that make Republicans happy?  You can color me shocked.

I'm not advocating Hayworth, I'm just saying that McCain has done plenty to earn the relationship he has with the base.  If he loses, he'll know exactly why.

257

stop acting like Hayworth is Jesus Christ about to take down Satan, John McCain

Hi, McCain!

258 242, MexCain only does things that benefit or do not harm MexCain. The things you cite are not enough to make him a good US Senator. He wants Amnesty. That alone makes him a dangerous fucknut.

259 #259  Jeebus. 

Oh boy, the Central California Mongolian Death Worm has a fresh, dumbassed victim primed and ready.

260 progress,

I think we're on the same basic page, then.  I'm fine with Palin's moves so far because they work, from a strategy viewpoint.  It's like a General having to accept some losses from the guys doing a feint.  Sucks to be those guys, and ethicists argue about that shit till hell becomes full of <insert favorite religion here>.

But tactically, she's doing the right things.  Think about the tough decision of DeVore over Fiorina.  Frankly, both are weaker candidates than we need. Something has to be done.  Palin is being eyeballed by all political operatives to see which way she leans in every friggin' race.  So her choice matters. I'm glad she chose, period.  Not so much that it was Fiorina.

And I just disagree on her clout.  Her fan base is bigger than anyone else's, and that makes for clout.  It's how Obama got elected, despite being a terrible debater, and throwing everyone under the bus all the time.

261 Mongolian Death worms are another one of those cryptozoological animals that supposedly exist.I don't think they are supposed to be very large,just very poisonous.

I don't know about that.  The Mongolian Death Worm that just ate the Mongolian dude looked awful big to me.  We're talking Tremors big.

262 I have had zero grey box issues.

263

Birdemic is Oscar worthy compared to this Syfy crap. 

Yeahp.  Birdemic looks entertaining. 

264 No. She's always the low point of roasts, and you can predict every skit. It's still SNL, and her shtick is older than the dirt she sleeps in.

Oh, c'mon, give the old girl a break.  At least she's sentient.  If I make it to her age I'll be crapping in my diaper and drooling like a waterfall

265 Posted by: Hip Teenage Girls Looking To Get Elegantly Wasted In School at May 08, 2010 09:42 PM (zhHH2)

Made a big impression on you too, huh?  I feel better.

266 Wtf?  There's a Mexican sheriff guy on this stupid POS.  In Mongolia.  Wonder if he's illegal?

267 Okay, just saw Kobe brick a free throw.  That was sweet.

268 264 Nope,supposed to be 2 to 5 feet long and maybe 1 in diameter.They can't even get cryptozoology right.

269

>>>100% agree, problem with progress (and I don't mean this as any disrespect towards you progress) is that they're a die-hard bleeding purist conservative who seems to be more comfortable with finding a more pure GOP at a time that the party has to stand together against a regime, a fucking regime that threatens to sink this country to some horrible days ahead

Posted by: Young Renaissance Man (AKA: YRM: Probably The Youngest Guy On Here) at May 08, 2010 09:27 PM (38UQ3)

No offense taken, YRM.  I don't know how badly I blew up at you over supporting McShame - though I don't recall the specifics but I would guess that it might have had something to do with trying to claim that anyone who questions the Indonesian Imbecile's eligibility is a loon (if you didn't say that, I apologize, but that usually sets me off).

The point is that this nation is at a point that calls for a different attitude, or it will go down in flames.  Literally, in flames.  I know you probably think that's hyperbole, but it isn't.  This nation is looking down the barrel at a world full of pain, unless drastic measures are taken.  As I have often said, I think it might even be too late for that, anyway.

>>>Prog doesn't call people by their proper names or titles. He blows up easily.

Incorrect and incorrect.  I address those who deserve respect with the proper respect and I address slugs with the appropriate level of contempt and disdain.

>>>He is ready for the armed resistance, the black helicopters and secession. But he talks a lot. He has all the time in the world to tell you why you're wrong.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2010 09:29 PM (mHQ7T)

If you think that chances of secession are not real, then you are just unaware of what is happening.  You also seem to have little understanding of what actual monetary collapse means, and what it means for the dollar, versus other little currencies that we have seen it happen to in history.  There is no historical parallel for the US dollar.  If the dollar goes, it takes much of the modern world with it and will end up with totalitarian states in many places and chaos in others.

But, you support passing out US citizenships to illegals (who already have other citizenships) like they're going out of style ... and if you get your wish, US citizenship will go out of style.  So, I don't expect you to really understand the dynamics of nation-states that are at work and the threat we face from their collapse.  You don't seem to like the notion of nation, to begin with.

270

More Aztlan fun with nice additions from Los Angeles mayor and current M.E.Ch.A. member Antonio Villaraigosa

http://bit.ly/15azPA

"For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing"

271 Okay, just saw Kobe brick a free throw.  That was sweet.

Posted by: logprof at May 08, 2010 09:46 PM (Mmw0q)

Am I to understand that we're united in a bond of Kobe Hate?

272 I've hears some deep rumblings out of SC.  There are some very conservative, old low country, retired officers considering a run at Lindsey.  Might be surprised how much money they could raise - very quickly.

273 Okay, what's with all the cardboard references?

Are we like the audience for Pro Wrasslin'?

274 Wtf?  There's a Mexican sheriff guy on this stupid POS.  In Mongolia.  Wonder if he's illegal?
Posted by: Jane D'oh

If he is a Cardboard Sheriff he will have to show us his valid shipping label.

275 Have they mentioned Spice or introduced any Fremen yet in the Mongolian Death Worm movie?

276 I wish SC would toss Lindsey out.  Seriously.  I've never understood the Lindsey love.

277 Okay, what's with all the cardboard references?

Are we like the audience for Pro Wrasslin'?

Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 09:48 PM (9b6FB)

See previous thread.

278

Posted by: FUBAR at May 08, 2010 09:42 PM (1fanL)

Posted by: eman at May 08, 2010 09:43 PM (ONBbr)

so we replace him with JD Hayworth who supported a fucking criminal? a loudmouth radio host who was ousted from congress? with history of earmarks and wanting to argue for the birthers' conspiracy theories?

my God the McCain Derangement Syndrome with the base is startling, and yes I know I come off as the asshole saying that, I know it pisses off most morons who I agree w/ mostly on all but 3 things (this issue, Clinton's presidency, and the PR statehood debate), but christ you guys are ready to put in an embarrassment over a dissapointment instead of improving and giving us a better candidate. I can not believe i'm so impassioned defending McCain who has pissed me off so many times, but seriously this hatred for him has gone so far to give us JD Hayworth? he'll be a loser if he wins the nomination

talking to McCain critics are like talking to the Obots sometimes

279 Okay, just saw Kobe brick a free throw.  That was sweet.

Is Kobe the epitome of all that is narcissistic, hedonistic and frankly, evil, with the professional athlete, or what?  

280 #281  Sadly, no.  The worm is seriously out-acting his human counterparts.  Who knew worms had vocal cords and could roar?

281

Am I to understand that we're united in a bond of Kobe Hate?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 08, 2010 09:47 PM (1fanL)

--Uh, yeah.  I also hate the Lakers in general.

282 127 Bennett was a liberal who needed to go, but this "purge the RINOs" thing bothers me. You could end up nominating a buffoon like Hayworth, who implodes and hands over a safe seat to the Dems.

Posted by: Zombie Elvis follows politics, too at May 08, 2010 07:25 PM (Ks4nX)

This argument would be more persuasive if McCain wasn't a buffoon who hands over his vote to the Dems on a semi-regular basis.

Posted by: stuiec at May 08, 2010 08:20 PM (W+GYq)

If McLame WASN'T a bufoon, we wouldn't be having this chat.

283 Posted by: YRM at May 08, 2010 09:49 PM (38UQ3)

Like I said: I'm not advocating for Hayworth.  And if McCain loses, he'll have nobody to blame but himself.  You keep giving the "fuck you" to your base, and eventually it catches up to you.

McCain-Feingold.  McCain-Kennedy.  McCain-Lieberman.  That's not conservative.  It's not even right-of-center.  It's batshit crazy.  And you could tell just by reading the names, even if you knew nothing about the bills.

284 btw can we please stop w/ this McShame, McLame crap? this man was a POW prisoner in Vietnam who refused to return to the states unless his comrades came back with him, costing him more torture. I know he's satan himself to the base (which I've never understood, if anyone should be treated that way it should be Graham), and he has done things to piss me off, and yes I only voted in 08 because Palin was on the ticket, but damn let's stop treating the man as if he was some ACORN endorsed guy, Crist is more deplorable then Mac.

The fact that McCain stood up to physical torture in Hanoi makes it all the more inexplicable that he gave in to the blandishments of his Democrat colleagues in the Senate.  Maybe the navy bean soup has something in it that breaks down political principles.

As for being Satan to the base, maybe his Gang of Fourteen idiocy and the McCain-Feingold attack on the First Amendment and the McCain-Lieberman cap & trade crap can clear up that mystery for you.

285 278 I've hears some deep rumblings out of SC.  There are some very conservative, old low country, retired officers considering a run at Lindsey.  Might be surprised how much money they could raise - very quickly.

Posted by: Jean at May 08, 2010 09:47 PM (CPefM)

When is Graham up for re-election?

286 284, Certainly there is a better replacement for MexCain than Hayworth. When you find that person let us know. For now, JD works because JD in beats MexCain in and a Dem in.

287 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 08, 2010 09:29 PM (mHQ7T)

BTW, the "slugs" I was referring to in my above response were politicians and the like (The Precedent, McShame, etc.). 

288 I blame the Coffee Cuppers!!11!!

289 Oh, c'mon, give the old girl a break.  At least she's sentient.  If I make it to her age I'll be crapping in my diaper and drooling like a waterfall.

LOL what's that strip club down south with all the old women? It's like Molly Shannon doing Sally O'Malley. There's women there Betty White's age, and they come out in sweat pants and orthopedic shoes.

290 --Uh, yeah.  I also hate the Lakers in general.

I just hate them on principle.

291 Hi, runningrn!

292 Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 08, 2010 09:53 PM (Qp4DT)

I don't read your rants.

293

292 278 I've hears some deep rumblings out of SC.  There are some very conservative, old low country, retired officers considering a run at Lindsey.  Might be surprised how much money they could raise - very quickly.

 

I believe the SC GOP already censured Lindsey this year. 

294

Am I to understand that we're united in a bond of Kobe Hate?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 08, 2010 09:47 PM (1fanL)

--Uh, yeah.  I also hate the Lakers in general.

Am i the only one who thinks the NBA is unwatchable?  I love the NCAA tournament, but the NBA is all look-at-me masturbation. It's awful, as are the TV ratings.

295

As for being Satan to the base, maybe his Gang of Fourteen idiocy

Now wait a minute, his gang of 14 worked for us. We got who we wanted and preserved the filibuster which we have used for the last 3 years. He has made some screw ups but that wasn't one of them.

296 Switch channels to America's sport Southern 500 @ Darlington.

297 Hi Jane D'oh!  How the heck are you?  I hope all is well with you and your family!

298 Gotta go folks.

I'll be drinking about you.

299 Jane,

I switched to Andy Griffith on TV Land.  The Mongolians look like a gang from South Central LA.

300

Posted by: lowandslow at May 08, 2010 09:54 PM (GZitp)

I believe and mean it, 1. get used to it, 2. like it or not it's what I think

thank God the ONT is up, now I can leave before this red vs red gets any bloodier

301 Posted by: K~Bob at May 08, 2010 09:44 PM (9b6FB)

We're not that far apart, K~Bob.  I don't even talk much about Palin.  I was just expressing my personal view.  In general I've appreciated what she's done (as with health scare) and have just not had much to say about her endorsements, other than being personally disappointed.

But, you and I do differ on how much clout she has to move votes.  She gets publicity (and money) for those she goes in with, but the voting I think is something alltogether different.  We'll see.

Without any question, Palin has proven herself canny and shrewd.  A few mistakes (by my view of them) are not fatal to her, as I still like her a lot. 

302 And if McCain loses, he'll have nobody to blame but himself.  You keep giving the "fuck you" to your base, and eventually it catches up to you.

Fair enough. I bet McCain gets reelected, though. I have no problem with that when the alternative is Hayworth or a Democrat.

303 Am i the only one who thinks the NBA is unwatchable?  I love the NCAA tournament, but the NBA is all look-at-me masturbation. It's awful, as are the TV ratings.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 08, 2010 09:55 PM (y4B2y)

Haven't paid attention since Jordan's (first) retirement.  Just hate the Lakers.

304 Okay, just saw Kobe brick a free throw.  That was sweet.

Posted by: logprof at May 08, 2010 09:46 PM (Mmw0q)

Am I to understand that we're united in a bond of Kobe Hate?

 

 

Count me in!  (jumping up and down, waving hand!)

305 Hey, runningrn.  ONT is up.  Mpfs, have a good night.

306 JD Hayworth may turn out to be a POS Senator and deserve getting booted out six years from now. But, MexCain has already proven he is a POS Senator and deserves to be booted out right now. That is the real choice.

307

Juan McShame screws over conservatives every chance he gets, and he even goes out on a limb to do it sometimes.  "You don't have to be afraid of Barack Obama; he's a good man."  Every time he screwed the pooch, we out here in conservative land had to grit our teeth and deal with it and just bide our time till he did it again.  This is the ONE time his constituents will be able to return the favor.  You're only a doormat if you let yourself get treated like a doormat.

308 Am i the only one who thinks the NBA is unwatchable?  I love the NCAA tournament, but the NBA is all look-at-me masturbation. It's awful, as are the TV ratings.

Posted by: Ombudsman at May 08, 2010 09:55 PM (y4B2y)

--As much as they've annoyed lately, I like the Suns' style --even if it's a shadow of their old days.

But I like LeBron and Dwight Howard.  They're not as big talkers as the other guys, and when they are they've backed it up.

The NBA has serious problems with guaranteed contracts, though, and that's the source of a lot of its problems.

309 #244

Hey,  Jane D'oh!   Do those bleachy things actually work?  Last time I tried them was when they were first introduced and I saw no diffference.

310 Hi Jane D'oh!  How the heck are you?  I hope all is well with you and your family!

You ladies are so sweet.  We men, basically, rarely care how our friend's family is doing.  Well, not that we don't care, but it never occurs to us to ask. You must be more evolved, or something.

311 K-Bob, goodnite

312 Thanks Jane! 

313 Hey, Miss Marple.  Yeah, they work okay for maintenance.  My dentist made trays for me and D'oh several years ago and we used his bleach and got Oprah-like white.  The strips you get in the stores are fine.

314 Cornyn, Mr. Rush is mean for asking that Obama's policies should fail.  He and Hillary worked out that cute HIB Visa program that loaded America with Indian workers while our tech workforce got downgraded....

He continues to push RINOS...He needs a personal shout out from one of you articulate dudes before this amnesty stuff starts.....

BTW, his election ads were of him eyeing the Texas scenery and acting all ZEN....disgusting....is he gay??????

315 Tearful Bob Bennett (VIDEO)

316 K-Bob -- not till 14; but planning starts now.  Guys taking off the uniform and looking at local or state offices with some visibility, etc.

317 Tim Kaine on Bennett's loss. “This is just the latest battle in the corrosive Republican intra-party civil war that has resulted in the Tea Party devouring two Republicans in just as many weeks,” Kaine said. “If there was any question before, there should now be no doubt that the Republican leadership has handed the reigns to the Tea Party.” This from the DNC head who lost his old seat to a Republican.

318 JD Hayworth may turn out to be a POS Senator and deserve getting booted out six years from now.

He already proved himself to be a POS Representative and got booted out. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

319 If the crapweasels had a definable ideology or even a predictable stand on most issues* I could live with their Maverickyness

That's my main problem with McCain.

It's not so much that I disagree with so many of the positions that he takes, it's mostly the fact that he digs in and wields a tremendous amount of power as a long standing Senator.

Oh, and I truly believe that he is an idiot.

I'm not just name calling here.

I know that he is ignorant about many of the issues that come across his desk, so are most Senators.  No big news.  They take a lot on that they shouldn't and can't.

I just doubt that he is even educable in the basics.

He has lived a very weird life (if you think about it), almost all of it, in or under the Federal Government.

He is institutionalized to a degree that most of us can't even comprehend.

So, he reacts to any issue placed before him with his gut.

And his gut tells him the best way to game the system. 

His gut, his instincts, are oriented towards the State and he is a master, neigh a prodigy, at playing that system.

But he has no experience, whatsoever, of life lived as most do, outside the purview of a departmental budget.

And he is old, and cranky, and apparently was a piss poor student at Annapolis when there was a chance that some of his fundamental ignorance of the larger world might have been ameliorated in his tender years.

Meh.

John McCain is a weirdo.

As an Arizonan, I have long been aware of the fact that he has no idea what most normal people (those that are not Senators or really interested in paying for Senators) do trying to live their lives.

He just kind of pops off now and then about issues in the same way that his ignorant daughter does and largely, for the same reasons.

Meghan McCain is silly and shallow but harmless.

John McCain is just as silly and shallow as his young daughter but he is dangerous.

He is an entrenched Senator with a lot of power.

That's a problem.

320 Howabout this - after a bruising primary; John McCain wins the Republican nomination and then sweeps back into office in November.  Then, tired - goes Palin, resigns.  Allowing Jan Brewer to appoint herself to the job.

321 Palin and the Firemen.

And again.

322 or even better; pull a Torecilli - McCain wins the primary.  Any Dim capable of running statewide pulls pitch.  Then McCain has a "medical" issue and Jan Brewer steps in.  Walks in for six years.

323 That's it exactly, over thirty freak'n years McCain's been in national politics, fucking things up, yet Hayworth is to much of a risk? That doesn't make any sense.

Hayworth is a fucking goon.

As an Arizonan, I want him voted in and then voted out.

As an American, I can't afford any more of John McCain's stupidity.

I'll take a goony Rep. warming his seat until someone decent shows up.

(Yes, Deety has finally endorsed a candidate in the AZ primary.  "Vote Hayworth!  Because he is a goon, but McCain is a dangerously powerful idiot!")

324

This is more about effectiveness and DC Cranio-Rectal Inducement Syndrome than any ideological purity test.

 

325 As an Arizonan, I want him voted in and then voted out.

Hayworth, if he wins the primary, will lose to a Democrat. You're giving a seat to a Democrat. It's utter stupidity to vote out a former party nominee for a scandal-tinged, unlikable (everyone who says they're voting for him says they can't stand him but hate McCain more) lunatic. It's like voting for Alex Jones. How much support can you see that getting in a GE? In a sane world, these purists would stay home on election day -- and thank you people for Obama! But to vote for a joke candidate like Hayworth? You're voting for a Dem.

326 "yet Hayworth is to much of a risk?"

He lost his House seat in 2006, not that long ago. That is a very real risk.

327

How is Hayworth a goon?  Is he Conservative?  Is  he more Conservative than McCain.

McCain's unwillingness to back GW Bush has greatly harmed this country.

George W Bush was very very centrist.  Or to be more accurate, Bush was willing to compromise.  McCain shit on him by pandering to the MEDIA for FAME-SAKE.

We are taking our country back.  McCain in NOT Conservative.  He's  been there for 30 years.  Times up.

328

*** "Bennett is under fire for voting to bail out Wall Street, co-sponsoring a bipartisan bill mandating health insurance coverage and for aggressively pursuing earmarks." ***

The underreported part of the story is that he also voted for amnesty in 2006 (not sure what he did in 2007). The Lamestream Media doesn't want to point to the fact that amnesty is a political liability.

By the way, I live in Utah in a senate district that his son, Jim, ran in in 2006. I called Bob Bennett's office and told him I would be taking his support for amnesty out on him and his son. As it was his politically well-connected son didn't even make it into the primary. But I haven't forgotten that vote, haven't forgotten that call, and haven't forgotten that promise.

Good riddance, Bob.

329 I have to agree with Tatoo De Plane (#335) about Hayworth, and anyone who followed me on Free Republic knows how much I despise McCain.

With the Tea Parties and McCain's history,  Hayworth still isn't ahead.   It seems to me that perhaps Arizonans are taking a good look and realizing that someone who lost a Congressional seat is not a good choice.  

Whatever happens,  happens.  It would be a shame to lose that seat to a dem.  Hayworth's a risk,  no doubt about it.

However,  I don't live in Arizona,  so I am simply an observer.  I will support whoever ends up with the nomination.

(As an aside,  one would think that the recall effort against McCain mounted back in 2001 would have taught him a lesson.  It was going swimmingly,  and only suspended because of September 11.  I think that McCain's reverting to his usual behavior is why Hayworth has had the success he has had. )

One would have hoped that in the entire state of Arizona there could have arisen a better candidate than these two.   We need to ask ourselves why grifters and nutballs end up as viable candidates.

330

The Republicans lost Congress.  Hayworth lost his seat.   We're taking back Congress.  Hayworth will certainly be more Conservative than McCain.

 

331 McCain's unwillingness to back GW Bush has greatly harmed this country.

Bush did plenty of damage to the Republican party and to himself. McCain paid for his gripe against Bush in 2008, so that score's been settled.

332

*** "He lost his House seat in 2006, not that long ago. That is a very real risk." ***

In 2006 - a very bad year for Republicans. Hayworth is running on a pro-enforcement agenda, in a year where enforcement is very much in the news, and where being a Demcrat is a severe disadvantage.

Besides, these are the types of risks well worth taking. Immigration enforcement is absolutely essential to putting this country back on track, and it's damn clear McInsane won't do it.

A McCain defeat, following a Bennett defeat, will put Congress on notice.

333 The Republicans lost Congress. Hayworth lost his seat.

You ignore that in both cases, Hayworth and the Republicans deserved to lose. If a more compelling alternative to McCain was in the primary, I would be interested. But voting out of spite is silly.

334 In 2006 - a very bad year for Republicans.

A bad year for Republicans? It was only two years after they won the White House. They lost the majority because of people like Hayworth. And in such an allegedly bad year, McCain stayed in office. Easily.

335

Tattoo - losing McCain's seat to a Democrat is not really losing a seat, per se. It's just losing a seat held by one non-conservative to yet another non-conservative. Given that Republicans will pick up several seats this fall anyway, his vote as a "Republican" to help a filibuster will not be needed.

If you think McCain's a conservative then a debate is useless.

336

*** "They lost the majority because of people like Hayworth. And in such an allegedly bad year, McCain stayed in office. Easily." ***

Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Do the fucking math, for God's sake. McCain stayed in fucking office in 2000 and fucking 6 because he wasn't up for fucking re-election. 2010 minus 6 does not equal 2006.

Holy fucking moly.

337 * 2010, not 2000

338 *...or not. I'm drunk, but my math is still better than yours.

339

Folks, the MFM is going to paint this as ANGRY TEABAGGERS.

Damned fucking "straits".

We aren't playing RINO v LIBTARD anymore.  McCain, Benet, Graham and their ilk have "butt sexed" us by playing footsie with MARXISTS.

Game over.   It's Conservatives vs lying Marxists now.

340 A McCain defeat, following a Bennett defeat, will put Congress on notice.

McCain is nothing like Bennett. Here is a laundry list from Erick Erickson. In what ways do you see any similarity with McCain's record?

Bob Bennett On Guns September 5, 1996 voted create a Federal offense to possess a gun within 1,000 yards of a school.May 13, 1999 voted to ban the importation of clips that hold more than 10 rounds.May 18, 1999 voted for mandatory triggerlocks.May 20, 1999, subjected pawn shops and repair stops to the same registration and background check requirements as dealers.May 20, 1999, voted for the anti-gun crime bill.February 26, 2004, voted for mandatory triggerlocks.September 9, 2009, voted for radical anti-gun “Regulatory Czar” Cass Sunstein.February 11, 1998, voted for anti-gun activist Margaret Morrow to the Federal Bench.May 13, 1999, voted to punish parents who allow a minor to handle a semi-automatic firearm. COURTS August 3, 1993 voted for Ruth Bader Ginsburg for the Supreme CourtJuly 29, 1994 voted for Stephen Breyer for the Supreme CourtOctober 2, 1998 voted for Sonia Sotomayor to be Circuit Judge. GAY AGENDA Authored health care legislation that provides mandatory coverage for same sex domestic partnerships.August 3, 1993, voted for Thomas Payzant, Assistant Secretetary for Elementary of Education. Payzant drove the Boy Scouts out of the San Diego schools due to their views on homosexuality.June 15, 2004 voted to add “sexual orientation” as a special class in the Federal Hate Crimes law.September 18, 1997 Voted against prohibiting the National Endowment for the Arts from funding obscene or anti-religious works with taxpayer dollars.May 24, 1993 voted for gay rights activist Roberta Achtenberg to be Assistant Secretary for Equal Opportunity at HUD. Achtenberg led several efforts to punish or the Boy Scouts for its policy on homosexuality. LIFE Authored health care legislation that includes abortion coverage.September 10, 2009 Voted for Cass Sunstein to be a Regulatory czar. Sunstein says “abortion should not be seen as murder of the fetus but instead as a refusal to continue to permit one’s body to be used to provide assistance to it.”September 13, 2000 voted against urging China to end its forced abortion policy.February 2, 2000 voted to provide special penalties in bankruptcy against pro-life protesters.February 18, 1993 Voted for taxpayer funded research using tissue from fetuses from elective abortions.February 11, 1998 Voted against a ban on human cloniningJuly 18, 2006 Voted to allow taxpayer funding for stem cell research on human embryos.February 10, 1998 Voted for David Satcher for Surgeon General. Satcher supported partial birth abortion.

341 Holy fucking moly.

You're a surly drunk, but if 2006 was "bad" then 2008 was worse. Hayworth still stinks worse than your breath.

342

Tattoo,  This guy was a 3 term..............REPUBLICAN.

Name ONE LIBTARD DEMOCRAT who crossed to CONSERVATIVE values and voted for them.

The LIBS actually voted for IRAQ then lied their asses off.

Libs cannot be trusted.  Bennet was not to be trusted.

 

343 Hayworth, if he wins the primary, will lose to a Democrat.

Okay, which one?

Gimme a name!

Are there any Dems running??

(Okay, I know that Rodney Glassman is running only because I am one of the 15 people who actually have followed Tucson City government enough to know that he was a jack-ass City Council member before he resigned to run for Senate.)

Seriously, most people in Tucson don't know who the hell he is.

I can't imagine that he is running around AZ and impressing voters with the fact that he served on the Tucson City Council.

Gimme another name.

Who is the likely Dem challenger for this senate seat?

344

One interesting thing about Bennett is that he looks and talks exactly like the aged Mormon leaders the 90% of GOP delegates who are Mormon have spent much of their life listening to and being taught to idolize. Well, not only does he look like one, but his grandfather was one - Heber J Grant, the president and prophet of the LDS Church from 1918-1945.

But they tossed him out just the same.

345 Soros, LaRaza, etc. won't have their tentacles into Hayworth at least at the beginning...

McLame was bought during the first amnesty go around.....disgusting


My friends, my A....

346 The old style" go along to get along" is rightfully under attack.

Sounds good.

More, please.

347

non dhimmie, add to that the LIBTARDS have been emboldened.

UCLA TODAY??

 

348 You ignore that in both cases, Hayworth and the Republicans deserved to lose. If a more compelling alternative to McCain was in the primary, I would be interested. But voting out of spite is silly.

Hey, bub.

You are ignoring the fact that I'm going to have to go to the polls to vote on a pretty important ballot initiative, and as a relatively new registered Republican, this will be my first time when they ask me whether or not I think that John McCain should be the candidate put forth by Republicans to represent AZ in the Senate.

I'm gonna have to say no to that.

Hell, I never voted for that bastard but once, against Obama!

Even when I was young, and pretty much a-political, John McCain convinced me to first register as NOP.

I knew that I wanted nothing at all to do with the Dems but I also knew that if John McCain represented the GOP, I could pretty much figure them to be assholes too.

349 Are there any Dems running??

Rodney Glassman. If Hayworth gets the Republican nomination, expect the DNC to put every resource they have behind Glassman. Now imagine the RNC trying to help Hayworth.

www DOT rodneyglassman DOT com/.../02/Rodney-Sasha1 DOT jpg

blogs DOT phoenixnewtimes DOT com/valleyfever/2010/01/jd_hayworth_quits_radio_gig_to DOT php

350

The morning after the ObamaCare vote, McCain was on TV saying, "we will repeal this".

Frickin' Commie!!!111

 

 

 

351 I can't imagine that he is running around AZ and impressing voters with the fact that he served on the Tucson City Council.

That Marco Rubio, too, no one heard of him, either! Against a proven loser like Hayworth, that's not even a bad thing.

352 That's a nice case for McCain over Bennett but McCain ain't running against Bennett is he?

Boy, you really are slow.

353 Have you met Rodney Glassman?

I have, 3 times, I'm told.

I only remember him from one time when he made an impression on me as a kind of spastic and pretentious jerk.

I got quickly schooled about being potentially rude to big power players and how that is frowned upon.

I had no idea who this dude was.

My main take-aways (at the time) were that, getting elected to City Council can't be all that hard and that the people that I were with were probably idiots to be so deferential to an obvious jack-ass because of a title.

354 "You have no basis for your meme that Hayworth can't win... "

Except that he lost his House seat in 2006.

This election will get national attention. McCain was our nominee last year. He graciously lost to Obama, but he has consistently opposed his agenda from the beginning. The Democrats, if they win his seat, will use this to portray a national endorsement of Obama's policies.

They have a decent candidate right now in Rodney Glassman. Even he could defeat Hayworth, and his endorsing birtherism will motivate their base. The immigration issue will also accomplish this. Hayworth cannot go up against the DNC machine. Experience has proven this.

Meanwhile, you see McCain's long tenure in the Senate as a liability. He has long-standing ties throughout his district that have gotten him elected time and again, and the national Republican apparatus is a nightmare now. A candidate that would replace McCain in such a high profile election will have to bring their A game.

355 I had no idea who this dude was.

He is good-looking, young and diligently goes out and shakes hands. That you don't remember meeting him three times is irrelevant. He's doing the work of campaigning, and he has a good team put together. Democratic leadership is 100% behind him.

The best thing that can be said of Hayworth is that he's not McCain. That's not enough to carry the day.

356

That Marco Rubio, too, no one heard of him, either! Against a proven loser like Hayworth, that's not even a bad thing.


Uhmmm, no.

Rubio came from relative nationwide obscurity based on a pretty impressive record at home.

Rodney Glassman is a completely different animal.

He is a walking, talking, example of mediocrity that the voters of Tucson allowed in deference to his family's money and connections.

Seriously, he has done nothing but embarrass himself.

I'm sure that he will get all of the usual Democrat union drones to vote for him.

But they are not going to be motivated to vote for this jack-ass.

So, a good test, no?

Voters, citizens and tax-payers against the  government unions.

357 Normally this kind of thing would scare me a bit

Make sure you send Carly and Sarah some flowers tomorrow.

358 Amazing - San Jose just eliminated Detroit.

359 Only 8.1% of Hayworth's former district was Hispanic. He faces numbers double that for the Senate race. Not only will union drones and the Democratic faithful show up for Rodney Glassman. But Hispanics will show up in droves to vote against Hayworth.

In 2008, 56% of Hispanics / Latinos supported Obama and 41% supported McCain. In 2004, Hayworth received almost as many Hispanic votes as his Democrat opponent, with each receiving about 48 percent; but in 2006, Hayworth lost 59-36 percent in Hispanic precincts. His comments will do him in. He is a well-known local loudmouth who will rally outright opposition.

It's not about how great Glassman is. It's that he is good enough, and Hayworth is very much disliked. An easy win is plenty of motivation.

360 He is good-looking, young and diligently goes out and shakes hands. That you don't remember meeting him three times is irrelevant. He's doing the work of campaigning, and he has a good team put together. Democratic leadership is 100% behind him.

Uhm, I don't know how to tell you and the rest of Huffington Post this...

He's a spaz.

And, I don't remember meeting him 2 times, not three.

On his third, he made an impression.

As a tremendous spaz.

I was amazed when I learned that the extremely socially retarded were being employed as City Council members.

There is a reason why he is pretty much never interviewed on local live TV.

Actually, now that I think about him as the, probably well-meaning, spaz that he is, I kind of feel bad for him.

Who the hell ever told this poor fool to go into politics in the first place?

Who told him to go into National politics ?

That's fucking child abuse.

I don't care that Rodney Glassman is "technically" an adult.

I'm going to hold the Democratic Party responsible for destroying the life of one of our "special" citizens.

361 "Uhm, I don't know how to tell you and the rest of Huffington Post this... "

You're hardly the one to tell me anything. Elections are really simple. You get more people to show up for your side than your opponent. Even if Glassman is a lightweight and a "tremendous spaz," he will have more people motivated to vote for him than Hayworth will. It's exactly the kind of win the Democrats need to kill the grassroots momentum of the Tea Party, and it will nullify the immigration issue. It will be portrayed as an endorsement of Obama's policies in general, a rebuke to the recent Arizona law, and McCain and Palin will still be brought into it. The MFM will call this a Coffee Party victory.

That is all the incentive Democrats need to show up and vote. Hayworth will not bring in enough Republican support. He does not have strong support that is sufficient to defeat the Dems. He has lost to them before. It has nothing to do with Glassman.

362

Make sure you send Carly and Sarah some flowers tomorrow.

Carly and Sarah probably think Mom's Day is a Capitalist plot to get people to buy stuff. I'm sure they want no part of it, being Marxists and all.

363 Hey, Tattoo De Plane,

I've got a question for you.

What the hell will you or John McCain care about AZ once He is re-elected?

I don't live in D.C.

I choose to live in Tucson, AZ.

I am very different from most congress-critters, most of my friends and family live in AZ.

364 "I choose to live in Tucson, AZ."

As I pointed out before, this election has national consequences.

365 It's the butterfly effect. Here's an example:

How? In Congress, Rep. Hayworth's extreme views on immigration were so bad that he was the only Member of Congress to object to the draconian "Sensenbrenner" bill in 2006 - a wide-ranging crackdown infamous for its intent to make felons out of both unauthorized immigrants and the religious and service workers who assist them - for not being harsh enough!  The "too-soft-for-Hayworth" Sensenbrenner bill is widely seen as the catalyst that spurred millions of people across the nation to pour out in the streets in protest, a tradition that has evolved into the May 1st immigration and workers' rights rallies that we know today.

In fact the momentum created by these events was certainly one force that drove such a high percentage of first-time latino voters to the ballot box last November, flipping four states from red to blue.

366 That has nothing to do with my views on immigration, before you attack me as some kind of open borders advocate. That is just to illustrate what kind of shitstorm you will unleash if Hayworth is the Republican candidate in AZ.

367

Suffice to say, Tattoo, you don't have any of your facts straight, and with good reason: You make them up as you go along.

Every time that you come here, you make assumptions, conjectures and allegations which are not supported by the facts, and you try to pass off your ill-conceived opinions as if they are the facts.

You are certainly entitled to your opinions. But don't delude yourself that you are changing minds or swaying opinions here. Many people here are a helluvalot better informed on current events than you are. 

368 You're hardly the one to tell me anything. Elections are really simple. You get more people to show up for your side than your opponent.

And I'm telling you, that most Arizonans are going to show up to vote on a really important tax issue.

Also, some of them are going to be asked about who should be the next Republican Senator from AZ.

369 He is good-looking, young and diligently goes out and shakes hands. That you don't remember meeting him three times is irrelevant. He's doing the work of campaigning, and he has a good team put together. Democratic leadership is 100% behind him.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 09, 2010 12:28 AM (mHQ7T)

LOL.  How much is Axelrod paying you?  Actually, you sound more like the New York Times.  I bet they don't pay nearly as well as Axelrod.  Pinch is such a stingy fucker.

370 Suffice to say, Tattoo, you don't have any of your facts straight, and with good reason: You make them up as you go along.

If that's the case, then debate the facts I present. Name one fact I made up. You can't. Projection is a bitch.

371 Also, some of them are going to be asked about who should be the next Republican Senator from AZ.

Hayworth is still polling behind McCain, so I'm sure most people in AZ remember why they voted him out before and have more sense than to take such an unnecessary risk.

372 Name one fact I made up.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 09, 2010 01:43 AM (mHQ7T)

That people are against strict enforcement on illegals and that people are against The Precedent proving hsi eligibility.  All polls done about both issues have shown that most Americans are against you.  But you lie and claim the opposite, because that's the sort of shit you do when you're not trying to use stupid anecdotes to argue for open borders and amnesty for all.

373 Hayworth is still polling behind McCain, so I'm sure most people in AZ remember why they voted him out before

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 09, 2010 01:46 AM (mHQ7T)

Making up more shit.  How many people even were able to vote for Hayworth?  He was a Congressman, genius.  One district.  Not the whole state.  Most Arizonans never had anything to do with a Hayworth election.

374 prog, you're insane. I have never argued for amnesty or open borders, only for visa reform. I have never claimed there is support for open borders, either.

375 Hayworth is still polling behind McCain...

Really, you know this shit?

'Cause, I don't.

Why are you so fucking concerned, now?

376 One district.  Not the whole state.

Sure, there are two Senators and eight Representatives for AZ. Hayworth can't hold onto one little district, and he's mounting a statewide campaign against the DNC (IF he can defeat McCain.) PPP has McCain ahead by 46%-35%. A Rocky Mountain poll gives McCain a much heftier lead of 54%-28% against Hayworth among Republicans and independent GOP primary voters.

Your argument is that not enough people voted against him before. Really?

377 "Why are you so fucking concerned, now?"

Touchy!

378 My argument is that this Seat is up for grabs and that Republican voters will fill it one way or another.

This will be a rebuke of D.C..

379 "But in a statewide test election against the almost completely unknown Democrat candidate Rodney Glassman of Tuscon, AZ, McCain drops to just 46 percent of the vote, while 30 percent move into the uncommitted column and Glassman receives a surprising 24 percent despite not having started to campaign seriously. But Hayworth does even less well against Glassman (37 percent to Hayworth and 30 percent to Glassman) ... a pretty clear indication that if Hayworth were to win, he would experience defections from GOP and independent voters who prefer McCain." Rocky Mountain poll 4/28/10

380 Your argument is that not enough people voted against him before. Really?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 09, 2010 01:59 AM (mHQ7T)

You are dense, aren't you?  My argument was pretty simple, that you like to make shit up, such as claiming that the people of Arizona remember why they voted against Hayworth when he didn't run statewide, but in a single district.

I know that was a little complicated for you, but I really thought you were able to understand it.  I guess not.

381 "My argument is that this Seat is up for grabs and that Republican voters will fill it one way or another."

That's not really an argument, but the nature of a primary. However, should JD Hayworth win that primary, the Democrats will win that seat. It will be a rebuke of the Republican party in a high profile election in a seat once held by the party nominee.

382 such as claiming that the people of Arizona remember why they voted against Hayworth when he didn't run statewide, but in a single district.

But I never said Hayworth ran for statewide office. I said Hayworth was  an AZ Representative who lost in an election in AZ. The comment was made to Deety who was pointing out that he lives in AZ. That's all.

383 by the party nominee.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 09, 2010 02:13 AM (mHQ7T)

No one cares that McShame was the nominee.  He was awful and did everything wrong.  He was an idiot.  If the prick had had any sense of integrity, he would have withdrawn from the primary after his Shamnesty was destroyed by the people and his ideas THOROUGHLY REJECTED.   The base hated his guts, as his own mother pointed out, and it takes an unusual sort of prick to push for the nomination, anyway, and then take a dive the way he did.

He was an awful nominee and a worse Senator.  Your continuing silliness with "he was the nominee" is meaningless and idiotic.

384 I'm sure you will be up all night jobber jabbering, but I'm going to sleep now.

385 Of course there is no way of knowing what the outcome of that election will be, Deety. But I suspect that McCain will be replaced by Hayworth for essentially the same reason(s) that Bob Bennet of Utah will be replaced by another Republican in the fall, also. People across the country, Republicans and Democrats, alike, many of whom have never even voted before, are all enraged by the irresponsible behavior of those incumbents who support bail-outs, TARP and healthcare legislation as they are currently written. This administration and people in Congress haven't only abused their power, but they have gone too far, also. Eagerness to replace incumbents will increase, not diminish, over the next six months. (That's just my opinion, mind you.)  

386

The Republicans will have their hands full cleaning up one helluva mess when they retake control of Congress, and, well, it's wishful thinking, of course, but I sure would be pleased if they would take up another issue; term limits for everybody in Congress.

I don't think that our country's founding fathers imagined that people would make a career out of being in Congress to feather their own beds.

If there were term limits, people in Congress would have an incentive to enact their agendas and to get their legislation passed before their terms ended, instead of dragging their feet to give their constituents another reason to keep them in office, and we would get people with fresh, new ideas every few years. Some of those old farts haven't had a clever, new idea since they first tried to figure out how to get laid.

387 I don't know what it is about crying, but I feel bad for people who do even when they've gone off the range like Bennett and deserve to be canned. 

388

The Republicans will have their hands full cleaning up one helluva mess when they retake control of Congress,

I hope Boehner is smart about this like Newt was in '94 and comes up with a fast moving plan to sell to the public before the election.  He could even say, "We're going to have another 100 day push like back in '94 and get x, y, and z done.  But since we have so much more to do, it's going to be the 180 day plan."

That was a nice bit of politics on Newt's part.  It made at least part of the process digestible in nice, easy chunks that sounded good to the public.

I am such a master of metaphor, I'll have you know.

389

I am such a master of metaphor, I'll have you know.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 09, 2010 02:53 AM (BFcAr)

 

You're too modest. I've noticed that you're a master of soliloquies, too.

390

*** "The "too-soft-for-Hayworth" Sensenbrenner bill is widely seen as the catalyst that spurred millions of people across the nation to pour out in the streets in protest, a tradition that has evolved into the May 1st immigration and workers' rights rallies that we know today." ***

And recall the fallout from those protests, where hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens and their la raza supporters marched through American streets carrying Mexican flags. It was a coup for our side.

I don't care if Hayworth winning the primary causes Democrats to take the seat. It almost certainly won't happen, because in an electoral wave parties seldom lose seats they already control. But I don't care if it does, because McCain's not a conservative, and I'm tired of his conservative bashing schtick. He's running harder and nastier against Hayworth than ever he did against Obama. It just proves that all his holier-than-thou, above-the-fray crap is just a pose. He's perfectly willing to get mean and nasty...when he's running against a conservative like Hayworth or Romney.

The point is that elections mean something, and in this case one very important part off that "something" is enforcement of our immigration laws. This country simply cannot afford immigration at current rates, and it sure as hell can't afford 12 million illegal aliens and their offspring (at 3.75 children/woman). It's killing us. See California. And Arizona. See the high school where 5 boys were sent home for wearing American flag shirts.

391 Just quote: "I am ashamed of this GOP"
--
ytmp3

392

#400 - I can't remember all of their names, but, among other prominent Republicans with impressive credentials, Rove and Gingrich recently formed a committee of the best and the brightest, who are already putting together a strategy to retake Congress in the fall.

Don't worry. Republicans will do just fine in the fall.

393

#402 "conservative like Hayworth or Romney"

I'm sorry, what part of ignoring one of the Bill of Rights amendments (hint, the Second Amendment), supporting bailouts, and socialized healthcare (remember, socialism is cool if it's on the state level), not to mentioned a half-assed stance on illegal immigration (I promise I'm against it, except for those I hire), etc... makes Mitt Romney a conservative?

 

394

You're too modest. I've noticed that you're a master of soliloquies, too.

And the witteh repartay.

395

Rove and Gingrich recently formed a committee of the best and the brightest, who are already putting together a strategy to retake Congress in the fall.

Oh, yeah.  Good.  That only bothers me to the extent Rove is not a conservative.  He pushed Bush to pander to the social cons (not real conservatives) while they expanded government... faster than a thing that... expands all the time, really fast.

I'm also a master of simile.

396

I don't care if Hayworth winning the primary causes Democrats to take the seat.

Dude. Dude? Dude.

397 Big gubmint conservative is an oxymoron a misnomer.  It's just a way of saying old fashioned Democrat or populist.

398

I'm also a master of simile.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 09, 2010 04:07 AM (BFcAr)

 

I reiterate; you're too modest. I've noticed that you're also a master of hyperbole.

399 Thank you.  I also have the largest penis.

400

Developing...

The McCain camp is hinting at a major endorsement coming soon. If it turns out to be the Lace Wig industry, as rumored, it would virtually assure his re-election.

401

In the last thread, someone told me I was a master of hyperbole.  I said, "Thanks.  I also have the largest penis."

I'll be here all week.  Try the veal.

402

woops

403

I also have the largest penis.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 09, 2010 04:14 AM (BFcAr)

 

I'm impressed. A mixed metaphor, a soliloquy and hyperpole in one 6-word sentence.

404 Oops, that should be, hyperbole, not hyperpole. 

405 "And recall the fallout from those protests, where hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens and their la raza supporters marched through American streets carrying Mexican flags. It was a coup for our side."

Four states flipping from red to blue is a coup for the Democrats.

406 Posted by: A Casual Observation at May 09, 2010 05:44 AM (ITzbJ)

Hi, Blow Job.

407 "No one cares that McShame was the nominee."

Just preparing you for the inevitable narrative should a Democrat win his seat. When Scott Brown won in Massachusetts, it was pointed out how that was Ted Kennedy's seat and a referendum on the healthcare bill. The AZ election will attract national attention and be used to demoralize the Republican party. The Democrats will milk it for all its worth, and they're dying for a candidate like JD Hayworth. Imagine Michael Steele getting this loser elected Senator. Look at Hayworth's website. Listen to his craziness. It will be a bloodbath.

408 Sorry, but reasonable minds can differ on TARP; preservation of the banking system isn't healthcare, and it isn't staying in office beyond your promised two terms.

Like, Romney is going to lose the UT primary?

409 11 In 2010 we finally hunt the RiNo into Extinction?

Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2010 07:16 PM (oD9/c)

In Cahleeforneeha the you don't hunt the RINO.... the RINO hunts you!

410 if youÂ’re a firebrand, take-no-prisoners, in-your-face, boot-the-socialists-from-office conservative, then we hope you have sense enough to accept an ally thatÂ’s not only ready and willing to fight to the end — but who is battle-tested, field-trained, and runs a daily operation with readership in the tens of thousands and is laser-focused on defeating the absolute worst president this nation has ever had.Attacking us is counter productive.We understand the hits we take from the Left on a daily basis — clearly, we are effective on some level, or they would just leave us alone and ignore us.  The fact weÂ’re such a high target for them must mean weÂ’re doing something right.So, it makes no sense for the Right to take punches at us too.We really wish those of you out there who frequent Redstate, Ace, and Free Republic would put a stop to that garbage.  Trolls can indeed be banned.  They should be banned.If your goal is to win in 2010 and in 2012, we just canÂ’t see the logic in alienating any alliesÂ…and, longterm, we just donÂ’t understand why you want to keep throwing away the LGBTQ vote when the only thing you have to do to start winning it is to just stop the sophomoric hate and insipid anti-gay jokes.

 

411 Sorry, but reasonable minds can differ on TARP; preservation of the banking system isn't healthcare, and it isn't staying in office beyond your promised two terms.

Posted by: ParisParamus at May 09, 2010 09:21 AM (lf/rr)

That's right.  TARP, as stupidly flawed as it was and as abused as it became (the minute after it was passed) was still something that, at least in its initial lying claims, was well within the purview of Congress - as the integrity of our monetary system is Congress' responsibility.  People can disagree over how stupid the original TARP was - and it was stupid and ridiculous and insane and never intended to be restricted to the monetary system but was clearly going to leak into the economic framework - but that vote was not a killer for anyone.

Bennet's problem had more to do with his insane attempt to bring his own kind of federal health insurance mandate (for which he should have been immediately run out Congress, as he evidently doesn't understand jack about the Constitution and the federal government's powers and limits) and his desire to push amnesty (for which he should have been immediately run out of Congress, as he evidently doesn't understand the concept of national sovereignty and was aiding and abetting an enemy invasion).

Bennett deserved to be tossed out long ago.  He's a slug.  He should just switch to the dem party, where he'd feel much more at home, as they are the ones who cherish the idea of an unlimited federal national government and the total destruction of US sovereignty.

412

we hope you have sense enough to accept an ally that’s not only ready and willing to fight to the end — but who is battle-tested, field-trained, and runs a daily operation with readership in the tens of thousands

Yeah, but are they house-broken?

413

Yeah, but are they house-broken? by rdbrewer #425

Check out the website they ARE on our side!  9 million hits and counting. No one has to agree with lifestyle, but we sure could use the votes and the guys really do get their snark on when it comes to Obama and MO.

http://hillbuzz.org/ 

 

414 I am glad Bennett got beat and hope that we can get McCain out of office as well.

415 Once again we have a McCainiac spouting bullshit. Hayworth lost because of the back stabbing of McCain, and the Republican elites. J.D. Opposed McCain on immigration after being firmly in McCain's camp prior. The open boarders in both parties ganged up on J.D. It's easy for idiots to proclaim one a crook and a goon, and over look the complete shit from McCain.
 We are talking about $2000 he received from Abramoff on behalf of the Indian tribes, well guess what the tribes were his constituents. One must forget the political climate at the time with the jerk from Florida and Abramoff being pushed by the Dems AND people like McCain. So take your crook and goon talk and shove it firmly up your WAZOO. J.D at least was one of the most dependable conservative votes in congress, unlike McSHAMNESTY!

416

Lynn, we generally like hillbuzzers around here.  We had a nice worry-action session back when Asshole was being elected.

BTW, what in your first post indicated you were talking about people from hillbuzz?

417 Again, borrowed from RedState:

It's too bad that McCain doesn't have another challenger

aesthete Monday, April 19th at 9:27PM EDT

John McCain sucks: IÂ’m pretty sure that I donÂ’t need to elaborate on that statement. JD would be a marginal improvement, in that he would be a reliable party vote in a way that John McCain has never been. That said, heÂ’s not the rock-ribbed conservative that he is often portrayed as being, and heÂ’s not a particularly good or bright spokesman for our cause. But aesthete, I thought that this was AZÂ’s backlash against McCainÂ’s moderate, spendthrift ways! Well, not quite: CWÂ’s fantastic work notwithstanding, almost all of the Tea Parties in AZ have refrained from endorsing, and all of the members of AZÂ’s Congressional delegation (including Jeff Flake and John Shaddegg) have endorsed John McCain? Why is this? For that, you have to look at the votes:

1) No Child Left Behind: I won’t crucify JD for this one, since most of Congress willingly swallowed the cyanide pill, but saying “everybody does it” really doesn’t befit our erstwhile conservative champion, now does it?

2) Sarbanes-Oxley Act: Here’s another one of those “everybody (except Jeff Flake) does it” votes. Long story short, they’re a stack of regulations in response to Enron’s failure. The bill was, as George W. Bush put it, “the most far-reaching reforms of American business practices since the time of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.”

3) 2005 Highway Bill: Yep, the pork-laden travesty of a bill that included the “highway to nowhere” was voted on by JD. I don’t have too much of a problem with pork, but JD’s stated reason for supporting the bill was that it had a trifling amount of money dedicated to border security. This answer later changed to the same one Ron Paul's using.

4) Medicare Pt. D: Et tu, JD? Yep, our Conservative Hero voted for the largest entitlement since the Great Society, and still gets away with calling himself conservative. Wanna know how bad it was? Not-even-McCain-voted-for-it-bad, thatÂ’s how bad. Call yourself what you want, but if you canÂ’t bring yourself to vote for such a nakedly expansionist government policy, I would argue youÂ’re, at best, a conservative in the European sense.

5) 527 Reform Act: Here’s an interesting one. After voting against McCain-Feingold, JD voted in favor of the 527 Reform Act, which closed up some “loopholes” in the original legislation, and was arguably more unconservative than the original. What was the difference between the two? One was supported by leadership, the other wasn’t. Since this one’s not so well known, here's a helpful fact sheet by one of the principal architects of the bill, Russ Feingold.

Just because you guys love lists so much, hereÂ’s another one of things that JD did that are of a questionable nature:

1) The questionable ties that JD had with corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff are not worthy of indictment in and of themselves, but should give conservatives pause: he was the top recipient of funds from same. While weÂ’re on the subject, using PAC funds to get a six-figure job for his wife wonÂ’t get JD on any good-government lists anytime soon.

2) Similarly, ties with nuts of all sorts have been part and parcel of JDÂ’s career since becoming a talk show host in AZ. One of these groups has been birthers: he has called for Obama to submit his birth certificate for public inspection, and has generally danced around the issue whenever he gets called on it.

3) He signed off on a term limits pledge, which he later broke as a Representative, and now signed off on one for his Senate campaign.

So there you have it: itÂ’s a battle between a party hack whoÂ’s peeved by illegal immigration, or John Bipartisan McCain. There is no Tea Party candidate, and itÂ’s up to you whether or not you want to waste your money on Bill FristÂ’s dumber brother in your bid to unseat McCain.

“The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected.”
-G. K. Chesterton

“To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
-C.S. Lewis

418 Call McCain names all you want, like Juan McAmnesty, McLame, McShame, but I like Jews, Hispanics and Latinos, Gays and Blacks, and I would like a more diverse Republican party. If minorities are with us on personal liberty and responsibility, then wonderful. Someone like JD Hayworth saying Henry Ford had the right idea, if he was talking about Mexicans instead of Jews, is the kind of batshit crazy that has no place in the party of Lincoln. Hayworth really is a crook and a goon. No, thanks.

419 Yeah and you're the easter bunny, you;re shit is weak. Keep you're bullshit coming it only strengthens the hatred we feel here in Arizona for your idiot MCSHAMNESTYMCLame.It's people like you that have brought us to the edge, and are too stupid to walk away from the cliff. Keep sending back stabbing old fools to Washington, and then cry when they do exactly the opposite of what they say.

420 Keep sending back stabbing old fools to Washington, and then cry when they do exactly the opposite of what they say.

Hayworth double-crossed the Republican party worse than McCain ever did. Either Shadegg or Flake might have beaten McCain but they arenÂ’t running. JD lost his seat in Congress in a pretty conservative/libertarian district to Harry Mitchell, because the folks in CD05 were sick of listening to JD whine. Nothing about JD has changed. HeÂ’s well known around the state, and heÂ’s neither liked or respected by a huge segment of the electorate.

McCain wants to win and will do what it takes (yeah, I know, why didnÂ’t he do that against BO) and call in whatever favors he needs to in order to win. He may not be particularly well liked - especially on the right - but heÂ’s respected. This race is nothing but mental masturbation for people who should be focused on races Republicans can win and seats we can take from Dems. For starters we have three House races - including JDÂ’s old seat - that we can win here in AZ. I suspect a lot of these paleocon trolls here who become unhinged at the mention of McCain supported fringe candidates in the 2008 election and hate that McCain got the nomination. Go bother the Democrats or join the LP, Constitution Party or anything, if you have no interest in helping Republicans win in 2010.

"I don't care if Hayworth winning the primary causes Democrats to take the seat." Posted by: CWilliams at May 09, 2010 03:27 AM (tBrQI) Well then, what the fuck are you people doing here? Whatever you're selling, we don't want any. Now get lost.

421 First sentence was a quote from jainphx. Btw, pal, if you live there, then just vote. Why pick fights on the internet with strangers on the internet? Dumbshit skinhead troll.

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