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March 21, 2010

Voting Begins
— Ace

This is just the vote as to whether they should have the vote. Paul Ryan objected to the bill on the grounds it constituted an illegal unfunded mandate. They'l be voting that down now.

Good God, they're going to do it.

Lynch Still Being Lobbied: Lynch is a ~~NYS~~ MA Democrat who flipped from Yes to No this week over the Cadillac tax. Does this mean they don't have the votes? Or they just want to make sure?

He sat on the balcony, just off the floor sporting Ray Bans sunglasses. Clinton told him to support the bill. He said he told her he's still a "no", but thought it wouldn't matter because he's hearing that Democrats are close to securing 216.

I guess we'll know soon.

Voting Goes Forward: 228-195.

Actually, I'm not sure that was the vote to have a vote. It was a vote on Paul Ryan's objection, which was rejected.

Posted by: Ace at 10:43 AM | Comments (64)
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1 100 seats lost by dems in November?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at March 21, 2010 10:44 AM (kEBiX)

2 Can't watch... I'm gonna go pour myself a drink.

-J

Posted by: Pedant in Chief at March 21, 2010 10:44 AM (2r1zy)

3 "Good God, they're going to do it."

Yep.

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 10:44 AM (0fq7b)

4 Gabe, pussy whip, please.

Posted by: Editor at March 21, 2010 10:45 AM (YX6i/)

5 "100 seats lost by dems in November?"

No, and it wouldn't make much of a difference long term. Short term pleasure for long term pain (from a freedom and economic solvency point of view).

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 10:45 AM (0fq7b)

6 Sunday, March 21st 2010. The day the republic died

Posted by: Gride at March 21, 2010 10:46 AM (DTyjM)

7 Ace, I'm not one to call for the "banning" of someone, but can we do something about the Canuck Christop for the day? Just for the day.

Posted by: Editor at March 21, 2010 10:46 AM (YX6i/)

8 "Hold me, Mr. Rove. I'm scared."

Posted by: RightWingRedneck at March 21, 2010 10:46 AM (GYfGD)

9 Oh, Gabe's been Pollyanna with a dress throughout this whole thing. I've no doubt he'll charge in here 20 seconds before the final vote is tallied and tell us all how it's all going to work out just fine.

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 10:46 AM (0fq7b)

10 It was a nice republic while it lasted. I, for one, welcome our new Hellcare overlords. Fuckers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2010 10:46 AM (UOM48)

11 Christoph=douch

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at March 21, 2010 10:47 AM (dDysH)

12 This makes my stomach ache. I pledge my time and money to fire Nancy Pelosi. http://www.FireNancyPelosi.com.

Posted by: Jayson Manship at March 21, 2010 10:48 AM (fwHa3)

13 Let's just call it "The Enabling Act of 1933" and be done with it.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 21, 2010 10:48 AM (AZGON)

14 I hope anyone who votes for this monstrosity burns in hell.

Posted by: Y-not at March 21, 2010 10:48 AM (Kn9r7)

15 Vote yes or no assholes - this is far from over.

Posted by: Terry at March 21, 2010 10:48 AM (Vui52)

16 Ok, got my drink... Time to drunk dial some reps...

-J

Posted by: Pedant in Chief at March 21, 2010 10:48 AM (2r1zy)

17 Christoph's just "concerned" because once we become Canada-lite, he'll have nowhere to go for quality healthcare.

The national sport in Canada isn't hockey, it's whining. (Stole that from a commenter at Michael Yon's.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2010 10:49 AM (UOM48)

18 Christoph=douch

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at March 21, 2010 02:47 PM (dDysH)

I think he prefers "Queerbecer".

Posted by: Editor at March 21, 2010 10:49 AM (YX6i/)

19 Mr. Chumpo = chump

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 10:49 AM (0fq7b)

20 Christoph,

Do you have health ins.?

Posted by: Smapty at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (bAySe)

21 We welcome our socialist overlords!

Posted by: 52%ers at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (554T5)

22 "Christoph's just "concerned" because once we become Canada-lite, he'll have nowhere to go for quality healthcare."

That's actually a factor.

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (0fq7b)

23 Wasserman shultz, kinky hair whore, sloppy pig, bitch Ahh I feel better now

Posted by: dananjcon at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (12v+J)

24 So will Obama actually give a victory speech after passing this shit-sandwhich or will he hide and sign it in a dark room with no camera like he did some other bill noone wanted?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (RI9Pd)

25 There is no Congressman Lynch from New York. He represents MA-9, which includes South Boston and its suburbs.

Posted by: cinyc at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (gFbRn)

26 Christoph,

Do you have health ins.?

Sure. It's mandatory.

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (0fq7b)

27 Christoph's just "concerned" because once we become Canada-lite, he'll have nowhere to go for quality healthcare.

I have been wondering why Obama and Pelosi hate Canadians--envy, probably.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (OkT2m)

28 I hope anyone who votes for this monstrosity burns in hell.

Posted by: Y-not at March 21, 2010 02:48 PM (Kn9r7)

I'd like to put them in brazen bulls and see and hear it for myself, first. I'm from Missouri, figuratively.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 21, 2010 10:50 AM (A46hP)

29 So will Obama actually give a victory speech after passing this shit-sandwhich or will he hide and sign it in a dark room with no camera like he did some other bill noone wanted?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at March 21, 2010 02:50 PM (RI9Pd)

Mr. Narcissist hide in a dark room? Scheeyeah, right.

Posted by: Tami at March 21, 2010 10:51 AM (VuLos)

30 Pomeroy's voting yes. That's 20 dollars to berg, his opponent, that i'll be donating today. Time to start the process to clean out all these weasels in November. Every blue dog needs to go and every lazy liberal who thinks they never would be in a serious race. Donate directly to their opponents.

Posted by: cheesestands at March 21, 2010 10:51 AM (RC7LR)

31 Does my congresscritter have an opponent for November? E. Cummings?

Posted by: Smapty at March 21, 2010 10:52 AM (bAySe)

32 Ever since Paul Ryan eviscerated the bill and then biatchslapped ezra klein he's been at the top of my list for a future presidential contender.

Posted by: cheesestands at March 21, 2010 10:52 AM (RC7LR)

33 "He's looking more and more like Presidential material. If anything good comes out of this entire crapfest, it might just be someone who has strong appeal* and knows how to get this entire bill escorted to the Congressional shredder come 2012."

You're right about that.

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 10:52 AM (0fq7b)

34 If just 1% of the democrats turned out to be 5th columnists who promised faux yeses and plan on flipping so they'll still have a chance at reelection, there would be hope.

Seriously, who would want to be badgered by Pelosi 7x24 to flip? Its a lot easier to let your office staff take a little heat about the faux-yes position.

Maybe this is just fantasy, but I think there might be a couple out there playing this kind of game. If I were dem, its precisely what I'd be doing.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 21, 2010 10:53 AM (Hrzt8)

35 Heel blue dogs.

Roll over.

Now beg.

O.K., good. Now go fetch.

Posted by: President Toonces at March 21, 2010 10:53 AM (W+E+o)

36 Paul Ryan objected to the bill on the grounds it constituted an illegal unfunded mandate.

That's a nice surprise, as Ryan has never really raised Constitutional objections to this, before - not that I ever heard. I don't fault Ryan so much, though, as the GOP generally seem embarrassed to base their arguments on Constitutionality.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 21, 2010 10:53 AM (A46hP)

37 Cummings won't lose, better to send your money to other races across the country that we can win.

Ace needs to create a page to a list of the reps who voted for this shit and their pvi index so we know how we can most effectively take them down.

Posted by: cheesestands at March 21, 2010 10:54 AM (RC7LR)

38 I agree. I was all about John Thune but now it is Ryan 2012 for me.

Posted by: Gride at March 21, 2010 10:54 AM (DTyjM)

39 Since looks are so important to a certain group of voters, I won't mention their sex (F).

I'll have you know I got an B+.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 10:55 AM (OkT2m)

40 Silver lining: When our pharma industry goes in the shitter, Canadians like our friend Christoph are gonna feel it. We have long subsidized their drug costs, as the Canadians and others have been able to make lowball offers. Our pharma companies basically have to go along and take what they can get, or face the prospect of a foreign gov't producing its own generic version at the drop of a hat. But if they stop developing new stuff, then the free ride stops up North. At least that's my layman's understanding, which may or may not be entirely accurate.

Posted by: ambidextrous stroker at March 21, 2010 10:55 AM (YsSn7)

41 Today is March 21. On this day in 1804, the Napoleanic Code was enacted into French law. It is fitting that on the very day that this bastion of free government was first enacted, a milestone in the destruction of free government will be declared into law, and be referred to by the intelligentsia as "progress."

Perhaps in a more fitting anniversary, on March 21, 1933, the construction of the Dachau concentration camp was completed.

Posted by: Onlooker at March 21, 2010 10:58 AM (M3hG/)

42 Constitutional or not, is still SUCKS!

Just argue that its a bullshit law.... I can't believe that the mandate gets north of 30% support when explained to voters.

Posted by: Smapty at March 21, 2010 10:58 AM (bAySe)

43 Unfunded mandates are like spending without having to pay anything. And all spending is stimulus, isn't it? Everybody knows that.

Now it's time for a hard pivot.

To me.

Posted by: President Toonces at March 21, 2010 10:59 AM (W+E+o)

44 Man, I wish I lived in Rep. Ryan's district in Wisconsin. I'm stuck with Baldwin. I'd trade my speed bump or pothole for that bulldozer.

-M

Posted by: Mark D Taylor at March 21, 2010 11:00 AM (qyFiw)

45 Great, now Shemp Smith is on. I'm switching to golf. I sickened by all this, got butterflys in my stomach. Eeesh

Posted by: dananjcon at March 21, 2010 11:01 AM (12v+J)

46 I found a song online that will help us celebrate this glorious day. You can watch and listen for free. Just click below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFibtD3H_k

Posted by: Onlooker at March 21, 2010 11:02 AM (M3hG/)

47 It doesn't appear they have enough votes:
http://ow.ly/1p5fL

Posted by: Flashman at March 21, 2010 11:03 AM (3ivy2)

48 Remember what I said about keeping your insurance and your doctor and all that?

Well, lemme be clear.

Suckers.

Posted by: President Toonces at March 21, 2010 11:03 AM (W+E+o)

49 I'm going to read for a while. Later, folks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 21, 2010 11:04 AM (UOM48)

50 E. Cummings Election Results

^^^
hmmmm...

Maybe in this situation a 3rd paty, Tea-Party candidate is the best strategy.

Posted by: Smapty at March 21, 2010 11:04 AM (bAySe)

51 I can't believe that the mandate gets north of 30% support when explained to voters.

Those are the voters who think they're getting the subsidies. Gimme mah free medicines!

Mark D Taylor--Here's a lady actively working to get rid of Baldwin, if you're interested in helping give her a buzz.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 11:04 AM (OkT2m)

52 Today is March 21. On this day in 1804, the Napoleonic Code was enacted into French law. It is fitting that on the very day that this bastion of free government was first enacted Ironically, the Code NapolÃ©on specifically denies citizens of many of the rights we take for granted. For example, the French gubmint has much larger powers of search and seizure than we do. The defendant in court does not have the automatic presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

Posted by: George Orwell at March 21, 2010 11:05 AM (AZGON)

53 Ace needs to create a page to a list of the reps who voted for this shit and their pvi index so we know how we can most effectively take them down.

Hell, no. If it passes, it doesn't matter how they voted. I don't care whether they were genuine or not. Democrats lie, they are corrupt, they have no regard for their constituents and they are a fiscal nightmare.

I don't care how conservative they say they are or how they voted. They must all go down. You can't trust them.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 21, 2010 11:05 AM (Vo2Ef)

54 This is just the vote as to whether they should have the vote. Paul Ryan objected to the bill on the grounds it constituted an illegal unfunded mandate. They'l be voting that down now. ----------------- Ryan's objection passes.

Posted by: manofaiki at March 21, 2010 11:05 AM (uSh7j)

55 Is there an exception for multi-millionaires? If you literally have enough money to buy your own hospital, what's the point of health ins.?

Posted by: Smapty at March 21, 2010 11:07 AM (bAySe)

56 Is there an exception for multi-millionaires?

Is there still a 5-6% (I forget the exactly number) "surtax" on incomes over the NFL league minimum?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 11:08 AM (OkT2m)

57 @Amishdude

The purpose of the list is to find the most effective way of taking out the most of them. There's no point wasting a shitload of money trying to take down conyers when it could cost us taking out say a baron hill and bill owens.

Posted by: cheesestands at March 21, 2010 11:08 AM (RC7LR)

58 I say target them all in the hopes that Dems are forced to spread their monies much more broadly than they anticipated.

Posted by: Smapty at March 21, 2010 11:10 AM (bAySe)

59 Chumpo=Chump. Now you get the idea douch. At least I'm only taxed 35% of income. You were probably born w/ money and can afford your so-called "Ideals" Troll on Hoser.

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at March 21, 2010 11:11 AM (dDysH)

60 If I ever here a dem complain about taxes, insurance etc. I will be posting from jail.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 21, 2010 11:12 AM (12v+J)

61 "Is there an exception for multi-millionaires? If you literally have enough money to buy your own hospital, what's the point of health ins.?"

To control individual people's lives. In Canada, for example, it is illegal to purchase covered services directly from a doctor.

So we have long waiting lists, and people with means go the the United States for quick, quality care.

The theory is it's okay to spend 1.6 million dollars on the top end sports car in the world, but spending 40,000 to help your mom get necessary knee surgery so she's not in pain all the time during her last few years alive is unfair.

Posted by: Christoph at March 21, 2010 11:13 AM (0fq7b)

62 Who's this asshole with the gavel?

Posted by: Steve L. at March 21, 2010 11:22 AM (mIIVr)

63 Who's the little kid in the red and gray shirt? Brave parents to let their kid around that pack of predators.

Posted by: RightWingRedneck at March 21, 2010 11:31 AM (yuBPX)

64 Jesse Jackson Jr is the guy with the gavel, and what a putz he is.

Posted by: Onlooker at March 21, 2010 12:09 PM (M3hG/)

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