June 26, 2010
UPDATED
— Gabriel Malor Above-the-Post Update & Bump:
Dave tweets with respect to this post:
Hey, guys, I was referring to the Caller story. You could have learned this if you did, you know, reporting. http://minx.cc/?post=303031
Wow. And here so many people on the right have been saying what a nice guy he is.
First, everyone run over to the Washington Post right now and decide for yourselves whether it appears from the way Kurtz wrote it up that he thought Weigel was referring to emails to the Caller rather than emails to JournoList. I'll wait.
Now that we've got that settled, Dave, don't get snippy with me. Kurtz apparently misunderstood you and his column is written in such a way as to mislead the folks who read it. And, as I wrote earlier, all of the information was available to Kurtz at the Post's own website if he had any interest in getting the story right.
Now, I don't know if that falls under your definition of, you know, reporting, but I don't see why you should have to worry about the Post's brand. After all, you don't work there anymore.
Original Post:
Alright, I thought I was done with this issue yesterday evening, but a Howie Kurtz article on Dave Weigel's resignation caught my eye.
Weigel declined to comment except to say that none of the e-mails was sent after he joined The Post. Earlier, he told the Caller: "I've always been of the belief that you could have opinions and could report anyway. . . . People aren't usually asked to stand or fall on everything they've said in private."
The highlighted part above is absolutely, one-hundred percent not true. Either Kurtz misunderstood what Weigel told him or, well...you know. And to make matters worse, this Kurtz article is the one story on the Weigel meltdown to make it into the print edition.
Weigel started writing for the Washington Post in April. Just last week Weigel sent a funny, but cruel message to JournoList suggesting that it "would be a vastly better world to live in if Matt Drudge decided to handle his emotional problems more responsibly, and set himself on fire."
This was in response to an unflattering link Drudge sent to Weigel on June 14 after Weigel referred to North Carolina Rep. Bob Etheridge's assault as "a hug." (BTW, protip: do not complain about getting links from Drudge Report. What are you, an idiot? There's the firing offense, right there.)
So Kurtz either didn't get the straight dope from Weigel or he somehow misunderstood. Although, that's not really defensible either since all of this info is public knowledge and it's even available at the Post's own website. So Kurtz has now memorialized something untrue in the print edition.
...I'm sure that's not the first time something untrue made it in there.
How many failures along the way here? Well, definitely Kurtz and Kurtz's editor. Possibly Weigel if he lied to Kurtz. So much for "Multiple layers of painstaking editorial fact-checking", right?
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This Weigel stuff is tempest in a teapot. As if we all didn't know the Compost could give a rat's posterior about conservatives already.
For the Moronettes, may I present Paul "We've run out of road to kick the can down" Ryan.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 26, 2010 08:53 AM (W8m8i)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 26, 2010 08:55 AM (1TvCg)
So he was the "hug" guy? Establishment media really does seem to think reality conforms to their narrative.
Let's say Breitbart sent out some big reporters, maybe WWE guys, to hug congressmen. Does anyone think the flexible and living, breathing rules on assault and battery might be viewed differently?
Posted by: Beagle at June 26, 2010 08:58 AM (sOtz/)
Journalism has been degraded from a technician class of men and women accurately reporting facts for public discernment into a "professional" class of J-school graduates from prestigious universities who's life is dedicated to "making a difference" and "educating the great unwashed" about the superiority of liberal thought and action.
Posted by: Fish at June 26, 2010 09:00 AM (v1gw3)
"except to say that none of the e-mails was were sent after he joined The Post"
Multiple layers indeed.
Posted by: grammar nazi at June 26, 2010 09:01 AM (nQYId)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at June 26, 2010 09:01 AM (y/+ik)
The Journolist goes from independent to left-leaning.
Ezra Klein is left-leaning.
He can't bring himself to just say "left". Liberal. DNC spokesmodels.
Posted by: MayBee at June 26, 2010 09:01 AM (UxjlF)
universities who's life is dedicated to
universities whose life is dedicated to.....
Sorry for the Obama.
Posted by: Fish at June 26, 2010 09:02 AM (v1gw3)
Posted by: Sockpuppet Czar at June 26, 2010 09:03 AM (2Xsw8)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 26, 2010 09:06 AM (1TvCg)
He's always defending the media, no matter how badly they act. Ironically, that's the precise opposite of his job.
Howie Kurtz is a tool.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 09:07 AM (Vo2Ef)
That which is bad must be called and understood to be bad no matter whether liberal or conservative has done it. Else there can be no society.
The promising thing is that the relative power of decrepit institutions like the Post are declining. As for Klein and the rest of his Harvard High School clique, the less said, the better.
There are many, many promising conservative bloggers. Two need to be hired to replace Weigel--one for the conservative side coverage, one for the liberal. Elsewhise, the Post shows exactly what I believe to be true--they do not believe in conservative Americans as worthy of attention or respect; but instead are only worth a decision on which remote intellectual reservation they can be forced onto.
In which case, one may want to make sure there is not a Sitting Bull or Crazy Horse waiting in the wings...
Posted by: Horatius at June 26, 2010 09:08 AM (gW0Nh)
It's amazing how these idiots rally around their own as out of some perverse sense of loyalty. Loyalty ends when someone embarrasses the entire profession, slapnuts!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 26, 2010 09:11 AM (zgZzy)
Gabe, I've listened to part of the radio show from last night and you were great. Despite you mis-pronouncing your last name...
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 26, 2010 09:11 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 26, 2010 09:11 AM (c0A3e)
Saying he was a nice fellow.
I would love to see Wiggle's email archive to see what he really thought about a few conservative bloggers.
Posted by: Dave
C at June 26, 2010 01:07 PM (qmecx)
I'll bet there was plenty of mockery of precisely the bloggers who are defending Weigel. He was the cheerleader who mocked the ugly girls behind their back.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 09:13 AM (Vo2Ef)
He's always defending the media, no matter how badly they act. Ironically, that's the precise opposite of his job.
It's not the least bit ironic if you consider that his job is to pretend to be critical, much as Weigel's job was to pretend to be "inside" the conservative movement.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 26, 2010 09:13 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Ward Churchill at June 26, 2010 09:15 AM (6JwG+)
Posted by: dr kill at June 26, 2010 09:19 AM (w9bVp)
Posted by: eman at June 26, 2010 09:21 AM (kFytp)
Posted by: dr kill at June 26, 2010 09:21 AM (w9bVp)
You are right. The "ombudsmen" at newspapers seem to exist only to tell readers they don't know what they're talking about and whatever complaints they have are unfounded.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 09:22 AM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: eman at June 26, 2010 09:22 AM (kFytp)
Posted by: dr kill at June 26, 2010 09:22 AM (w9bVp)
His point was that none of the E-mails in the SECOND batch of revelations, the one published by The Daily Caller, were from the time he was with The Post. This much, from what I can gather, is absolutely true.
It may be a distinction without a difference for most of you but it matters to him (and to sticklers like me, who don't want to forget exactly how this all went down). The reason it matters is because, as of Thursday night and the FishbowlDC "Drudge fire" revelations, Raju had decided that it didn't amount to a firing offense. That Weigel could survive it. These e-mails were definitely more recent spout-offs to JournoList, but they aren't the ones that cost him his job. They made it increasingly untenable, but up until this point he was still alive.
It's only when the SECOND group of truly toxic e-mails -- all of which were written before he took the Post gig, while he was still with the *very* 'Team Blue' rag the Washington Independent -- that Weigel got canned. Which makes it very clear how deeply the stiletto was sunk into his back, incidentally.
So that's what Weigel meant by the turn of the phrase you're critiquing. I've obviously been a hammer on him at this point (both here and on Reason), but there really are aspects of this affair that are a genuine screw-job and this is one of them, IMO.
Posted by: Esoteric at June 26, 2010 09:23 AM (vOuIv)
Posted by: Usful Ijit at June 26, 2010 09:29 AM (M/psB)
He lost his job because he no longer had value.
He was hired as a liaison to conservative bloggers and as a sop to the right generally. When it was revealed that he was nothing but a liberal douche who hated conservatives, he was useless.
The WaPo is chockablock with liberal douches who sneer at the right.
In fact, that's pretty much all they have.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 09:32 AM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 26, 2010 09:35 AM (Wh0W+)
Good point. What did they know and when did they know it?
Somebody should break this story. But I ain't meeting anybody in a parking garage.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 09:36 AM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 26, 2010 09:37 AM (Um3jj)
When it was revealed that he was nothing but a liberal douche who hated conservatives, he was useless.
I disagree that it was "revealed". After his stupid, stupid "hug" comment, it was already really evident that he was not trying to be the least bit objective. The prior emails were just confirmation that he would not, could not do the job for which he was hired.
I think it was just a case of too much being piled on at once.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 26, 2010 09:46 AM (XdlcF)
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
Posted by: Gabriel Malor
Now is it time for the panties to come off?
Posted by: Statistical outlier from the Daily Mail at June 26, 2010 09:50 AM (1O93r)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 26, 2010 10:09 AM (U9GG3)
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at June 26, 2010 10:12 AM (MxQFN)
Holey Cow, what happened to that really, really long post that Cap infidel just sent?
Gone with the wind, I guess.
Posted by: HH at June 26, 2010 10:34 AM (6oDXl)
Posted by: HH at June 26, 2010 10:38 AM (6oDXl)
Posted by: meep at June 26, 2010 10:52 AM (UhB0V)
Posted by: Have Blue at June 26, 2010 10:58 AM (mV+es)
Posted by: Have Blue at June 26, 2010 11:01 AM (mV+es)
Posted by: Lolcano at June 26, 2010 11:05 AM (qE9Su)
Posted by: Pedantry Q. Grammatic at June 26, 2010 11:18 AM (SHKl9)
Posted by: Lolcano at June 26, 2010 03:05 PM (qE9Su)
(slow clap)
Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at June 26, 2010 11:25 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: matthew J. O'Connor at June 26, 2010 11:35 AM (8EEyy)
Dave has a Facebook page, make sure to remind him to update his employment info in his profile.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
deep breath
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
(The irony, it is sweet, yet salty with his tears.)
Posted by: ZoomieMSgt at June 26, 2010 12:11 PM (XH70Q)
Posted by: douche bag at June 26, 2010 12:43 PM (Ki7fm)
Posted by: Huckabee at June 26, 2010 01:10 PM (U9GG3)
Posted by: Swee Blue-haired Old Lady at June 26, 2010 01:12 PM (U9GG3)
Posted by: Melvin Winter at June 26, 2010 01:14 PM (SvmVa)
Posted by: Pedantry
There is no greater a modern travesty than that of 'emails.'
MAIL is plural. No need to add an 's,' and there is no reason to add an 's' to 'email' either!
Fucking travesty, I say!
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 26, 2010 01:34 PM (N/7an)
Weigel turned out unexpectedly to be a leftist.
Damn, we love that word. You can use it every day.
Posted by: WaPo at June 26, 2010 01:42 PM (9Kyvv)
We douche bags have feelings, you know. Weigel is no douche bag,.... Weigel is a tool.
Good point. How about we just call it a "Weigel bag" from here on out?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 26, 2010 01:46 PM (9Kyvv)
Yeah.
I'll have to admit, I've never really cottoned to evangelists. They just rub me the wrong way.
At least the Jehovah's Witnesses are trying to do something useful, like helping me not to burn in hell for all eternity (I think). That's pretty damn friendly, if you think about it.
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 02:05 PM (aVzyR)
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 02:06 PM (HyUIR)
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 02:06 PM (HyUIR)
anybody else here think it'd be interesting to see the emails of supposed conservatives like Beck, Frum, & such, it'll reveal who that person really is like Weigel was exposed
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 02:06 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: Frank G at June 26, 2010 02:09 PM (4X0aT)
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 06:08 PM (HyUIR)
but this makes me feel like I can trust no one, I even want to know how Beck really feels, gimmick to make money? is FRum really a liberal or just a conservative in hiding? how about Hannity, does he really believe what he says he beleives, this whole thing has taught me political opinion can be used to further a career, even if that person really doesn't buy into it
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 02:10 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: Alvin, the candidate not the chimpmunk at June 26, 2010 02:10 PM (aNTHk)
You mean this guy is still flailing around trying to explain himself the day after he was hired by Huffpo and clinging on to any shred of the illusion of journalistic integrity and professionalism ? A job which of course he accepted as soon as it was offered ?
Because as we all know, Huffpo trips all over itself trying to hire someone with true bona fide conservative credentials to write commentary for them
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:11 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: weigelsfatrolls at June 26, 2010 02:11 PM (oToD4)
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 02:12 PM (HyUIR)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 02:13 PM (Vo2Ef)
Gabriel. guess it's just you me and my panties.
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 06:05 PM (HyUIR)
Please, continue.
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:13 PM (t72+4)
Hey, did ya'll see the NYT keeping it real??
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 26, 2010 02:14 PM (5PVc+)
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 06:12 PM (HyUIR)
*shakes head in agreement*
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 02:14 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: LincolnTf at June 26, 2010 02:14 PM (Um3jj)
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 06:14 PM (uLoHz)
btw I was agreeing w/ willow's last comment the OT was from me
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 02:15 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 02:15 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: Robert G. Durant at June 26, 2010 02:16 PM (c0A3e)
A week ago, Byron York might have told you that Dave Weigel was a swell guy. Now he knows better.
Posted by: VKI at June 26, 2010 02:16 PM (LZK9H)
No it wouldn't.
'Cause you forgot about douche-bag trial lawyers who file class action suits.
Sorry to be a critic but you can't really make a dent in the problem if you forget about that part.
STG, I'm trying to get Mesothelioma in time to crap on someone's conference table come deposition time.
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 02:17 PM (aVzyR)
also what i find amusing is andrew sullivan is on glenn greenwals blogs he reads.
where's the clarity!
when we even see blogs do a total reversal , what is there to trust.
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 02:17 PM (HyUIR)
The way he acts behind your back is the important thing, not how he acts in front of you. If you're a conservative and you thought he was affable towards you, that's because he was using you. His e-mails display a vindictive a--hole who despises your other friends on the right as well as what you believe in. If, on the other hand, you consider a guy like Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, etc. a friend of yours and you stand for him saying that stuff, then you're a poor friend.
In that case, it's not just his judgment that's questionable, it's yours.
One may smile, and smile, and be a villain.
Posted by: AD at June 26, 2010 02:20 PM (zz1r7)
Hey Weigel, have fun rubbing Arianna's crusty feet during you're private meetings with her. I'll bet you she's got that old lady smell and she's European to boot, which means she probably only showers once a week.
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:22 PM (t72+4)
I will DEFINITELY be here for the ONT to recount my exp. w/ the soccer maniacs on the last thread and hopefully we end up talking about this subject that interests me so much
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 02:23 PM (uLoHz)
AD said ....The way he acts behind your back is the important thing, not how he acts in front of you. If you're a conservative and you thought he was affable towards you, that's because he was using you
uh hmm/ we divorce him!
another thing you want to know who you really are married too, divorce them, a clear picture emerges : P
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 02:23 PM (HyUIR)
The Krusty Krab training video is on.
I think Timmah should watch it. I mean, does HuffPo even pay?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 02:23 PM (Vo2Ef)
The way he acts behind your back is the important thing, not how he acts in front of you.
"Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking." Jackson Browne
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 26, 2010 02:24 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 02:25 PM (HyUIR)
Esoteric at June 26, 2010 01:23 PM (vOuIv)
I loved your take-down at Reason the other day. Well written.
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at June 26, 2010 02:25 PM (1WQzo)
Hey Davey, buddy... Look, repeating the Democrat talking points is not reporting. No matter what your little circle jerk of friends in Journolist told you.
At least when we get in a circle here, its a firing squad. Much less ghey.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2010 02:25 PM (oVQFe)
"Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking."
My character is taking a crap?
Wait. No. That's about right.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 02:25 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: dr kill at June 26, 2010 02:25 PM (w9bVp)
Wait. I recognize that dialect. That is obviously snark. Wow! I speak snark. That opposable-thumbed vertical walker and we hunched-back hominids share a trait. This is clearly a breakthrough. Maybe I should offer Valu-Rite and a hobo pelt to get this conversation moving.
Or watch a replay of US-Ghana soccer.
Nah. Going with the soccer and downing the Valu-Rite on a hobo pelt.
Posted by: Conservative Amidst the Mist at June 26, 2010 02:26 PM (swuwV)
BTW, assuming this is true, you'll notice he, again, let other people mislead on his behalf only to cry foul when people came complaining to him. "Hey, I never said **I** am a conservative, it's just the Washington Post people who did that!"
Dave Weigel does not bull---t. He just lets other people do it for him.
Posted by: AD at June 26, 2010 02:26 PM (zz1r7)
Yes. I'm getting the impression Weigel is, as ace said, a nice guy. To your face.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 26, 2010 02:27 PM (LtIsn)
Ya' know, I could respect Weigel a little if he was back stabbing conservatives on journolist to score some halfway decent libtard journalist trim.
However, I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case.
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:28 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 02:28 PM (7JES6)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 26, 2010 01:35 PM (Wh0W+)
Me! Me! Pick me!
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 26, 2010 02:28 PM (LtIsn)
"Frum"?
YRM, maybe you should spend a few years getting the lay of the land before showing off your understanding of the political world in public again.
Posted by: rickinstl at June 26, 2010 02:28 PM (iLoEX)
WTF? Give me a thundershower of something. SC is be being hot hot hot.
I guess we should blame the raghead. How come I don't get interviews anymore?
Posted by: Alvin, the candidate not the chimpmunk at June 26, 2010 02:29 PM (aNTHk)
Dave Weigel does not bull---t. He just lets other people do it for him.
Posted by: AD at June 26, 2010 06:26 PM (zz1r7)
So he's running for the US Senate in CT then?
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2010 02:29 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 02:32 PM (73jUp)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 02:33 PM (73jUp)
Posted by: rickinstl at June 26, 2010 06:28 PM (iLoEX)
I know the lay of the land, I was trying to point out Frum may not be what he seems, no one might be that was the whole point, Frum could be some super conservative who's a spy of sorts, or he could be a raging lib like Weigel that was my point
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 02:34 PM (uLoHz)
No, you see, REPORTING means seeking out the facts and letting people know about them, which is what Gabriel did, not trying to enforce party talking points while lying about your intentions, which is what you, Dave Weigel, did.
Back under that rock, Dave. You haven't earned polite company again yet.
Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at June 26, 2010 02:35 PM (bxiXv)
So he's bitchy now?
Shocked.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 26, 2010 06:33 PM (Wh0W+Yep, he's giving away his true political bent more and more each day the more he tries to walk the cat back. Somebody needs get that guy a Maxi-Pad for his ass.
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:35 PM (t72+4)
Rush is, I believe, definitely what he appears to be. He's taken too much heat over the years without changing his tune. Hannity, as well. Beck? If you recorded one of his shows and deleted the self-promotion, how much would be left? I have no idea what he thinks when the camera and microphone are off.
O'Reilly strikes me as a Nixon Republican -- doesn't see what's worth getting all mad at the Democrats about, really, but he's willing to play to the right for eyeballs. (That's why he occasionally gets things utterly bassackwards; he doesn't think the way his viewers do.)
Michael Savage? I put him somewhere between "say anything for ratings" and "batshit insane." If he is a real conservative, he's in the wing that prefers to lose elections.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 26, 2010 02:37 PM (GTOsU)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 26, 2010 02:38 PM (gDuKo)
I'm surprised Chucky J doesn't have a post up yet decrying how hardcore neo-cons once again ran a true centrist- moderate away from the GOP. Or maybe he does, not going to go look at any rate.
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:38 PM (t72+4)
As someone who has been on fire, know that your petty, childish mind disgusts me. May you never have your adult pain-scale tared by something you can never imagine but are so quick to wish on people you don't know and merely disagree with.
Posted by: rogerB at June 26, 2010 02:39 PM (8nFbp)
Don't point too hard. Frum is exactly what he seems.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 26, 2010 02:39 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 26, 2010 02:40 PM (gDuKo)
I don't think they have the starting pitching this year, but it's still early....
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 26, 2010 02:40 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 02:40 PM (EA+Co)
Posted by: yrm's mother at June 26, 2010 02:42 PM (w7TI0)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 26, 2010 02:42 PM (gDuKo)
Posted by: mim/ginaswo at June 26, 2010 02:43 PM (7fnpl)
Posted by: Comic Bookstore Guy at June 26, 2010 02:43 PM (Um3jj)
Well, the Maple Leafs missed the playoffs, they are going to have to trade one of their best players and they had no draft picks this weekend so it's not that surprising.
Still, rioting, looting and burning is usually more of a Montreal thing.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 26, 2010 02:43 PM (X/Lqh)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 02:43 PM (EA+Co)
Can someone ask Weasel to report on Ariana's conservative roots?
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 26, 2010 06:42 PM (gDuKo)
Her ex-husband got those in the divorce.
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:44 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 26, 2010 02:45 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 26, 2010 06:37 PM
CBC building is on lockdown???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA....*COUGH*...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.A..*GASP*....
HAHAHAHAHA....*WHEEZE*.....HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Bubble Ba'athist at June 26, 2010 02:45 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Washington Post at June 26, 2010 02:46 PM (gDuKo)
I don't think that Frum is much of a mystery, myself.
I suspect that if you read Beck's e-mails you would learn that he's basically a very silly man.
Hey! I listened to the dude on the radio and thought that he was pretty decent and funny.
I was blown away when he got the TV gig on CNN's Headline News.
Mostly because he got the conservative writers and thinkers that I had been reading all by my lonesome for so long, on NATIONAL TEE-VEE!
That was a kick.
The messianic, Howard Beal, Doctoral Candidate in Conspiratorial History Studies, version offered by Fox News, I find less appealing.
I liked him a lot better when he interviewed interesting thinkers and didn't just try to take credit for every good insight and recycle them poorly.
I mean, I'm all for taking a good idea, filing off the serial numbers and making it your own.
But this dude doesn't even try to change the lines of the vehicle he just stole.
He just uglifies it by slapping "Made by Beck!" stickers all over it
That and the weeping. Pisses me off, no end.
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 02:46 PM (aVzyR)
Posted by: Michael Moore at June 26, 2010 02:47 PM (gDuKo)
I think the Toronto crowd is just expressing its Miracle Whippedness. Seriously, wait until the US becomes a third-world debtor nation...then you won't be seeing these protests anymore.
(As for the Weigel thing, I don't have any spare neurons to devote to this).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 26, 2010 02:47 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 26, 2010 02:47 PM (M9BNu)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2010 02:48 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: LincolnTf at June 26, 2010 02:49 PM (Um3jj)
Posted by: Words to the Empire March at June 26, 2010 02:50 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at June 26, 2010 02:12 PM (MxQFN)
Posted by: ^For those of you who missed it the first dozen times it was posted on other threads at June 26, 2010 02:50 PM (sYrWB)
How many times do you think a slack jawed clueless MCP said today, "Whats this oooll aboot, 'eh ?"
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:51 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Douchebag Anarchist Burning Cop Cars in Toronto at June 26, 2010 02:51 PM (Xsi7M)
My friend in Pittsburgh says when they met there, the only thing that got burned was a Dumpster. I suspect that's because American cops have weapons, and some training in how to use them.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 26, 2010 02:51 PM (M9BNu)
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 26, 2010 02:52 PM (GTOsU)
We douche bags have feelings, you know. Weigel is no douche bag,.... Weigel is a tool.
Let the tools defend him, not the douche bags.
Posted by: douche bag at June 26, 2010 04:43 PM (Ki7fm)
Posted by: ^For those of you who missed it the first dozen times it was posted on other threads at June 26, 2010 02:52 PM (sYrWB)
That right there is the right's problem. Pussies, the whole lot of 'em.
Posted by: pajama momma at June 26, 2010 02:53 PM (fo4Wl)
Heh.
Sorry that's just classic AoSHQ commentary, from back in the days when there was "no such thing" as Moronettes.
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 02:53 PM (aVzyR)
Posted by: LincolnTf at June 26, 2010 02:53 PM (Um3jj)
And he'll do it, because my SmarTroopers (tm) will be pointing their pain rays at his head the whole time.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 26, 2010 06:52 PM (GTOsU)
Cut.Jib.Newsletter
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:53 PM (t72+4)
I've got video of protestors tearing up downtown Toronto..
..how the fuck did all those ratfucking, racist, goddamned Reich wing teabaggers get up there so fast??
Posted by: Davey Weigel at June 26, 2010 02:54 PM (AnTyA)
Anybody who opposes it has a cancer in his soul and should question his manhood.
Posted by: AD at June 26, 2010 02:55 PM (zz1r7)
My friend in Pittsburgh says when they met there, the only thing that got burned was a Dumpster. I suspect that's because American cops have weapons, and some training in how to use them.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 26, 2010 06:51 PM (M9BNu)
Probably hard to get a mob worked up when you know the police will fuck you up when you start throwing shit at them. And not like you can bring a gun either because they will also likely shoot back.
Posted by: buzzion at June 26, 2010 02:56 PM (oVQFe)
Let the tools defend him, not the douche bags.
We got nothing.
Posted by: Amalgamated Tools at June 26, 2010 02:57 PM (rqC5o)
After reading all the articles about this guy for the past couple of days, I was astonished to see people on the right insist he's a nice guy. He's a freaking douche.
That right there is the right's problem. Pussies, the whole lot of 'em.
Posted by: pajama momma at June 26, 2010 06:53 PM (fo4Wl)
Spot on. The guy is a douche. He's the type of guy who would buy you a steak dinner and drinks and smile in your face the entire time he was trying to play footsies with your wife underneath the dinner table.
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 02:58 PM (t72+4)
Can someone ask Weasel to report on Ariana's conservative roots?
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 26, 2010 06:42 PM (gDuKo)
Posted by: Blazer at June 26, 2010 06:44 PM (t72+4)
That wasn't the only 'roots' he got.......
Dusty Trail anyone???
Posted by: Portnoy at June 26, 2010 02:59 PM (azgo2)
I suspect that's because American cops have weapons, and some training in how to use them.
I dunno...they tore the shit out of Seattle
Posted by: Davey Weigel at June 26, 2010 02:59 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Rick at June 26, 2010 03:00 PM (Aauui)
Posted by: Bubbles the Chimp at June 26, 2010 03:01 PM (w9bVp)
The guy is a douche. He's the type of guy who would buy you a steak dinner and drinks and smile in your face the entire time he was trying to play footsies with your wife brother underneath the dinner table.
FIFY
Posted by: Davey Weigel at June 26, 2010 03:01 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Dave Weigel: Tough Guy Reporter at June 26, 2010 03:01 PM (blcI9)
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 26, 2010 03:01 PM (GTOsU)
Dave Weigel, I'll be your friend. Now that Michael's gone I really need a new rock star to hold hands with me. I'm living in Neverland, I'm in the cage between Arianna and Sally Quinn.
Posted by: Bubbles the Chimp at June 26, 2010 07:01 PM (w9bVp)
Hands Off, I Saw Him First !
Posted by: Juan Valdez's Mule at June 26, 2010 03:02 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Toronto "Protestor" at June 26, 2010 03:04 PM (AnTyA)
anyhow, let's catch up here, i'm a little calmer after the soccer maniac incident in the last thread, ok so:
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 06:46 PM (aVzyR)
I totally feel you, I was a big fan of his and then he got his Fox News gig and started thinking he was the second coming of christ and screwing up history and wanting to be some Thomas Paine figure, he turned me off after that
Posted by: YRM (The Youngest Ace Reader) at June 26, 2010 03:06 PM (uLoHz)
Posted by: LincolnTf at June 26, 2010 03:07 PM (Um3jj)
Posted by: Bubbles the Chimp at June 26, 2010 03:07 PM (w9bVp)
Ninja please. What do you call lauraw?
Posted by: pajama momma at June 26, 2010 03:07 PM (fo4Wl)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 03:07 PM (73jUp)
And they've discredited themselves—not as conservatives (I'm not one, either), but as judges of anything. Few things in life are as clear as how much of a ridiculous asshole Weigel is.
Posted by: oblig. at June 26, 2010 03:08 PM (x7Ao8)
FIFY
Posted by: The Real Davey Weigel at June 26, 2010 03:09 PM (voslW)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 03:10 PM (EA+Co)
Posted by: Dave Weigel at June 26, 2010 03:12 PM (gDuKo)
I'll have to say, I'm not much interested in watching sports of any type but this weird bit of Rugby has me hooked.
Haka
You'd think that making scary faces would leave one feeling somewhat silly and the opponent rightly dismissive.
Nope.
Kind of gets the blood up and leaves members of the opposing team sub-consciously protectively cupping their junk.
That's just insane-stupid commitment, that right there.
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 03:21 PM (aVzyR)
Dave Weigel is a dick.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to return to my rewarding job and large circle of friends. I don't know how my ego will ever recover...
Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at June 26, 2010 03:31 PM (k5CvA)
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2010 03:35 PM (HyUIR)
- Ed Morrissey
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2010 03:39 PM (SeTb6)
Did you ever notice that the first verse is a question?
Too bad that the music it was set to is such a bitch for normal people to sing (too many registers), I think that it serves as a distraction in some ways.
It's so devoid of braggadocio as to make one wonder how it even qualifies as a national anthem!
It's a question and a challenge.
Freedom is not to be taken for granted, it can be snuffed out in the course of one night's battle.
When we wake up each day, being free American citizens, we should be amazed and awed that such a thing can happen.
Okay, yeah.
The rest of the world is all up against us but still, we can prevail!
Isn't that amazing?!
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 03:46 PM (aVzyR)
Not in the reporting he's done? Really? So all the crap he said about Sarah Palin is balanced? I expect crap like that from Allah, not Ed.
*hangs head sadly
Posted by: pajama momma at June 26, 2010 03:48 PM (fo4Wl)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 26, 2010 03:55 PM (gDuKo)
Posted by: pajama momma at June 26, 2010 07:07 PM (fo4Wl)
A girl with a hump.
I think that Ace has been banking on her hump containing Kuato and if he lets "the hump" keep posting, someday he'll get his memory back.
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 03:56 PM (aVzyR)
Ah, bullshit. The song covers three octaves, so only professionals and people with a lot of natural talent can actually sing it. It's a terrible anthem for a country.
They should have let it bleed out after what Roseanne Barr did to it.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 26, 2010 03:58 PM (LtIsn)
No, but there are dozens of songs that would make a fine national anthem. Songs normal people could sing, even.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 26, 2010 04:05 PM (LtIsn)
Beg to disagree.
It's a fantastic anthem!
The music sucks ass though.
Just for private singing to oneself, it's fucking impossible, even for "normal" people who have four registers at their disposal and a little bit of training.
You'd have to be an Ella Fitzgerald to pull it of in public.
And yet, it is fun to strive for it.
No?
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 04:10 PM (aVzyR)
Posted by: AD at June 26, 2010 04:13 PM (C35Yh)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 26, 2010 04:14 PM (eNxMU)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 04:17 PM (7JES6)
I guess the Patriots who fought for independence did it because it was easy. I guess the pioneers who hacked a nation out of wilderness did it because it was simple. I guess the men who planted our flag on the fucking Moon did it because it took no effort at all.
We have a national anthem that's hard to sing because this country demands the best of its people! If you want an easy fucking anthem go back to England and bow your neck to the dowdy Germanic tyrant who calls herself Queen! You can mumble along with the drunken mass of subjects while we free men and women struggle to hit that awkward note at "red glare."
Because the struggle is what makes it worth singing!
You pussy.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 26, 2010 04:22 PM (GTOsU)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 04:24 PM (7JES6)
Posted by: Gov Tim Pawlenty at June 26, 2010 04:25 PM (Glxw+)
I suppose, if you're drunk and nobody you know is around to hear.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 26, 2010 04:27 PM (LtIsn)
- Ed Morrissey
Even if it's a joke, it's shocking to have an employee of The Washington Post claiming a prominent conservative had sex with an 8-year-old boy. But that's what new Washington Post "Right Now" blogger Tweeted during Saturday's White House Correspondents' Dinner about The Drudge Report's founder Matt Drudge.
Fairly late in the evening,
Weigel wrote this on his Twitter account: "I hear there's video out there of Matt Drudge diddling an 8-year-old boy. Shocking."
- Newsbusters Dan Gainor
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2010 04:31 PM (SeTb6)
Posted by: gomm at June 26, 2010 04:31 PM (7JES6)
-Jonah Goldnerg
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 26, 2010 04:39 PM (SeTb6)
Well, duh!
In between Hobo Skinnings, I sometimes drink some Val-U-Rite, and try to sing the "Star Spangled Banner", to myself, in fucking private.
You got a problem with that?
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 04:50 PM (aVzyR)
Dan has forgotten the First Rule of Holes.
But you know, I have the same weakness. When my blood is up, I have difficulty just waiting for it all to blow over. And by difficulty, I mean, can't hardly do it.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 26, 2010 04:54 PM (tm15w)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 26, 2010 04:56 PM (tm15w)
Because the struggle is what makes it worth singing!
You pussy.
Now there's somebody who understands what it means to be an American.
Posted by: AD at June 26, 2010 05:00 PM (zz1r7)
In which case Operation Simultaneously Ratfuck the Washington Post and Journolist* appears to be a smashing success.
Bravo!
* Yes redundant, but what do you expect from stupid reichwingers?
Posted by: ThomasD at June 26, 2010 05:14 PM (21H5U)
Posted by: pajama momma at June 26, 2010 05:37 PM (fo4Wl)
Posted by: pajama momma at June 26, 2010 09:37 PM (fo4Wl)
Nah, Roseanne Barr just doesn't piss me off the way I'm supposed to be.
In hindsight, I think that her disrespectful screeching of the anthem probably served as an excellent commentary (wholly unbeknownst and unintended by her) on the very much off-putting trend, at the time, for female singers of the anthem to go off into irrelevant Coloratura arpeggios rather than deal with the music at hand.
I don't see that Roseanne Barr did anymore injustice to that song than Whitney Houston did in 1991.
What sucks is, back in the day, Whitney had the pipes to try to aspire to greatness.
Gawd, in the 80's you could hear the potential busting out of her songs on the radio!
Now she's just a punchline on "Talk Soup".
So, sad.
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 07:43 PM (aVzyR)
Posted by: physics geek at June 26, 2010 08:01 PM (llWHs)
As far as I remember, Whitney Houston was teen model, that sometimes sang in church.
Then someone in the 80's figured out that not only could this kid pose for sweaters in the Venture circular but could probably do a music video.
At the time, it was kind of a big deal that such a good singer looked good too.
I can't even begin to describe this to anybody who knows what songs are on a Brittany Spears' album, can I?
Posted by: Deety at June 26, 2010 08:23 PM (aVzyR)
I don't either. In fact, I'm pretty sure I didn't mention the concept of deserts in my post at all. You're arguing with somebody, but it's not me. In fact, I'll go farther and say that, once the E-mails leaked (regardless of how & why) he DID "deserve" to lose his job, simply because he could no longer perform it properly (he was already being kicked out of a number of off-the-record conserative meeting groups that had previously trusted him).
So we're in agreement about that. But we can both agree that Weigel had no moral claim upon that job (and hence didn't 'deserve' it) while ALSO agreeing that whoever outted him from within the JournoList is a ratfucker extraordinaire (ah, irony!) and that nobody deserves THAT. Betrayal by supposed friends is a non-partisan thing for me.
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None doesn't have an object. It's the subject, and a contraction of "not one". One is always singular, and the verb must be singular to agree with it. Just checked with my grammarian mother to be sure.
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"I've always been of the belief that you could have opinions and could report anyway. . . . People aren't usually asked to stand or fall on everything they've said in private."
Excuse me while I ask General Stanley MacChrystal about this liberal revisionist revelation. Mr. Weigel, you are an ass.
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