April 12, 2010

Washington Spending $31,406 Per Household
— Ace

Your government at waste. Washington is spending the equivalent of an additional low-ish income on every single household in America.

Taxpayers filing their 1040s are likely wondering just where all their hard-earned tax dollars are going, anyway.

• Washington will spend $31,406 per household in 2010 — the highest level in American history (adjusted for inflation). It will collect $18,276 per household in taxes. The remaining $13,130 represents this year's staggering budget deficit per household, which, along with all prior government debt, will be dumped in the laps of our children.

• Government spending has increased by $5,000 per household since 2008, and nearly $10,000 per household over the past decade.

Yet there is no free lunch: If spending is not reined in, then eventually taxes must also rise by $10,000 per household.

Social Security and Medicare cost just under $10,000 per household and then follows defense at $6,700. And then come the more cuttable costs.

Posted by: Ace at 12:23 PM | Comments (111)
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1 Hey tmi3rd, you better start popping out more children.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 12, 2010 12:25 PM (1fanL)

2
Sounds like someone isn't paying their fair share.

Posted by: Democrat at April 12, 2010 12:26 PM (uFokq)

3
I'm gettin' a big-ass flat screen when my check shows up! (runs out in boxers to check mailbox)

Posted by: Dang at April 12, 2010 12:27 PM (UA4gE)

4 The country has gone full retard.

Posted by: maddogg at April 12, 2010 12:27 PM (OlN4e)

5 Can't I just get my $31,000 and spent it myself?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 12, 2010 12:28 PM (0GFWk)

6 hey, but with a VAT we'd have no deficit at all! because the economy and government will have collapsed

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at April 12, 2010 12:29 PM (4yQqK)

7 We may loose money on every household, but we gonna make it up on volume.  Everybody knows that.

Posted by: President Toonces at April 12, 2010 12:29 PM (H6Jyg)

8 Explain to me again why I'm looking for work?

Posted by: wherestherum at April 12, 2010 12:31 PM (gofDd)

9 So why isn't medicare cuttable? When free healtchare arrives, why should we pay?

Whaddya mean my taxes are gonna go up because of free healthcare, I thought it was free. Oh, I see, free for someone else. This sucks.

Posted by: Penfold at April 12, 2010 12:31 PM (1PeEC)

10
Government-owned slot machines in every house!

Posted by: Democrats at April 12, 2010 12:31 PM (uFokq)

11 you know, i'm in california right now and i wonder just how much my state is paying out each year...

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at April 12, 2010 12:32 PM (4yQqK)

12

8 Explain to me again why I'm looking for work?

Looking for work? I thought you just got a job???

Posted by: maddogg at April 12, 2010 12:32 PM (OlN4e)

13 We may loose money on every household, but we gonna make it up on volume. Everybody knows that. Posted by: President Toonces at April 12, 2010 04:29 PM (H6Jyg) That's funny, but at a lecture about how profitable "capitation" dentistry could be for you, that is pretty much the argument the asshole in charge was using. Kinda like Obamacare?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 12, 2010 12:32 PM (0GFWk)

14 Is that before or after the Fraud, Waste and Abuse?

Posted by: rawmuse at April 12, 2010 12:32 PM (ydD8v)

15

Don't worry everyone, I have a plan.  According to Malia's algebra book, if I multiply the deficit by minus one, then the amount becomes positive.  Math is normally above my pay grade, but Axelrod told me that if that amount were a positive number, then we'd have a surplus!

Therefore, I will issue an executive order that we shall multiply the deficit by minus one!

...What?  Don't look at me like that.  I'm smart.  I went to Harvard.  Yokel.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 12, 2010 12:33 PM (FkKjr)

16 you know, i'm in california right now and i wonder just how much my state is paying out each year...

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz

 

No insult intened, but isn't your home state doing a revival of Greecemania, the imploding country?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 12, 2010 12:34 PM (R2fpr)

17 America's profit and earnings ratio is looking up.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama, King of the World (D) at April 12, 2010 12:35 PM (QKKT0)

18 Explain to me again why I'm looking for work?

I hear ya buddy.  I'm looking for work and I owe the IRS money from last year.  And then I read crap like this.  I'm not a happy camper.

Posted by: brak at April 12, 2010 12:36 PM (W5NBA)

19 Looking for work? I thought you just got a job???

Nope. That place is bleeding people like a gunshot wound. Economy's bad but not bad enough to keep working for a dictator.

you know, i'm in california right now and i wonder just how much my state is paying out each year...

I heard somewhere that CA (used to?) pay the most in federal taxes but got the least back.

Posted by: wherestherum at April 12, 2010 12:36 PM (gofDd)

20
Hey remember when Obama promised to cut the bdget deficit in half by the end of his first term? Remember that farce?

Everyone except the 'journalists' in the media figured out Obama was just gonna jack up the budget by trillions in his first 3 years and then simply cut it in half in his 4th year.

Posted by: Mr Peebles at April 12, 2010 12:37 PM (uFokq)

21 Can they just send me a check directly?

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 12, 2010 12:38 PM (tr6Dy)

22 We are so boned.

Posted by: RobD at April 12, 2010 12:39 PM (sV3Dv)

23

Isn't it terrific that our federal government cares so much about us that they're willing to spend all this money in order to help us?

 

Posted by: Warden at April 12, 2010 12:39 PM (QoR4a)

24 I heard somewhere that CA (used to?) pay the most in federal taxes but got the least back.

Posted by: wherestherum

 

That's cause the wagon trains lugging it back  are often waylaid. Hordes of ignorant savages who show no Christian mercy attack and pillage.

I refer of course to the Congressional delegates of other states.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 12, 2010 12:39 PM (R2fpr)

25

No insult intened, but isn't your home state doing a revival of Greecemania, the imploding country?

Nah, we're much more grand than that: we have a GDP of $1.8 trillion we're gonna ruin, Greece was only $450 billion or so. Our unfunded public employee pensions are already $500 billion. We are the king.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at April 12, 2010 12:39 PM (NA7sd)

26 Let's just print more money.

Posted by: lefty with straight face at April 12, 2010 12:40 PM (y4IbY)

27 Maybe someone could explain the stock market to me. No, I mean the new stock market. The old market, bad economic news made the market fall, good news made it climb. In the new stock market, the shittier the economic news, the higher the market goes. I just don't fukkin' get it.....

Posted by: maddogg at April 12, 2010 12:40 PM (OlN4e)

28 So why isn't medicare cuttable?

Try and run on that one. Old people vote...reliably...as it turns out.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 12, 2010 12:41 PM (0q2P7)

29

Judging by the alarming amount of bare storefronts within a 5 mile radius of my house in the last two years, I'm not very optimistic.

I repeat - progressives cannot count. Mathematics, like logic, is foreign to their little limbic brains. They. Cannot. Comprehend.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 12, 2010 12:41 PM (i3AsK)

30

That's cause the wagon trains lugging it back  are often waylaid. Hordes of ignorant savages who show no Christian mercy attack and pillage.

I refer of course to the Congressional delegates of other states.

Heh. I always figured since we're stuck with the likes of Boxer and Feinstein we should get pork like AK was getting with Stevens. But nooooo. Instead we have the 2 most incompetent senators who don't care about anything except abortion and gay rights.

Don't get me started on our Congresscritters. I learned last night my local Congresscritter tried to defend teh Doofus' anti-Israel policy at a townhall last night to lots of booing and disagreement. I think he may be one of those anti-Israel Jews.

Posted by: wherestherum at April 12, 2010 12:41 PM (gofDd)

31

Nah, we're much more grand than that: we have a GDP of $1.8 trillion we're gonna ruin, Greece was only $450 billion or so. Our unfunded public employee pensions are already $500 billion. We are the king.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz

 

"Heavy upon the head weighs the crown".

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 12, 2010 12:41 PM (R2fpr)

32 >>Let's just print more money.

Call me.  Let's have lunch.

Posted by: President Toonces at April 12, 2010 12:41 PM (H6Jyg)

33 But once we have free healthcare, all of our other problems will fix themselves. 

Posted by: even more clueless lefty with a straight face at April 12, 2010 12:42 PM (IHbof)

34

And everybody has a share.

I'd say that maybe timmy got some ideas from that book, but then I remembered that he can't read.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at April 12, 2010 12:43 PM (NA7sd)

35 Yeah, where's mah free?

Posted by: 52% at April 12, 2010 12:43 PM (8z8kE)

36 California is trying to balance their budget by winning the Guinness Book of World Record Prize for being the 1st American state to fuck up every single conceivable government thing they possibly could all at once without the state separating from Earth and floating into space. That's next year.

Posted by: sifty at April 12, 2010 12:44 PM (y4IbY)

37 The answer is clear.  Fewer households.

Posted by: AoSHQ Resident Financial Genius at April 12, 2010 12:44 PM (QKKT0)

38 Washington Spending $31,406 Per HouseholdDon't worry, The Precedent has announced that they are going to cut federal spending per household by 3000%. 

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 12, 2010 12:45 PM (N49h9)

39

Heh. I always figured since we're stuck with the likes of Boxer and Feinstein we should get pork like AK was getting with Stevens. But nooooo. Instead we have the 2 most incompetent senators who don't care about anything except abortion and gay rights.

 

I must protest against this groundless slur. I know for a fact that they care about much more. I do believe that both have them have voted for appropriations that have benefitted business interests owned by either their spouse ( I don't want to envisions that) or former aides.

I insist that you retract your accusation that they are merely narrow minded ideologues. They are also base, theiving hyenas.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 12, 2010 12:45 PM (R2fpr)

40 >>But once we have free healthcare, all of our other problems will fix themselves.

That other guy gets lunch.  But you get dinner at the White House.


Posted by: President Toonces at April 12, 2010 12:45 PM (H6Jyg)

41

Honestly, I don't see why you whiny little bitches are making this into such a big fuck deal.

Posted by: Joe Biden - Big Fucking Deal Czar at April 12, 2010 12:45 PM (YVZlY)

42

Looking for work? I thought you just got a job???

Posted by: maddogg at April 12, 2010 04:32 PM (OlN4e)

Don't tell me you missed that thread.  Her employer treats the employees like 3rd graders.

Hey rum, have you applied for gummint jobs?

Posted by: FUBAR at April 12, 2010 12:46 PM (1fanL)

43 I do believe that both have them have voted for appropriations that have benefitted business interests owned by either their spouse ( I don't want to envisions that) or former aides.

That applies to Feinstein. No, Boxer just gives her aides Get Out of Jail Free cards for the ones caught looking at child porn.

Posted by: wherestherum at April 12, 2010 12:46 PM (gofDd)

44 Dear D.C.,

We'll take the cash, please. 

Send in small, unmarked bills to Mr. and Dr. Y-not, California, USA.

Thanks.

Posted by: Y-not at April 12, 2010 12:46 PM (Kn9r7)

45

Posted by: Joe Biden

 

Speaking as a Delawarean; bite me Joe.

 

To everyone else; we're sorry. Who knew that Dupont and all of its chemicals could create something so hideous?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 12, 2010 12:47 PM (R2fpr)

46 FUBAR! (Heh, that's how the country is right now, ain't it?)

I applied to one gubmint job so far. The ones I get through an automated search agent are mainly technical ones I don't qualify for. I'm still trying to figure out how to get a job with the DWP.

Posted by: wherestherum at April 12, 2010 12:47 PM (gofDd)

47 I do believe that both have them have voted for appropriations that have benefitted business interests owned by either their spouse ( I don't want to envisions that) or former aides.

That applies to Feinstein. No, Boxer just gives her aides Get Out of Jail Free cards for the ones caught looking at child porn.

Posted by: wherestherum

 

Well that's okay then, if you're Scott Ritter or Roman Polanski.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 12, 2010 12:48 PM (R2fpr)

48 Send in small, unmarked bills to Mr. and Dr. Y-not, California, USA.

Don't forget to ask for non-sequential bills, too.

Posted by: wherestherum at April 12, 2010 12:48 PM (gofDd)

49

Let's tax the crap out of the productive sectors of the economy and see if that will work.  No one has ever tried that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 12, 2010 12:49 PM (B+qrE)

50 What are you peasants whining about now?  Why, $31K is less than M'Chel's clothing budget for a week!

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 12, 2010 12:49 PM (tcMQZ)

51 Why isn't cutting SS on the table? Indexing the benefits for the first 5 years could help alot.

Posted by: Jean at April 12, 2010 12:50 PM (PjevJ)

52 This means my mortgage and my car still get paid for, right?

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at April 12, 2010 12:50 PM (tWf3S)

53 @50
50 Send in small, unmarked bills to Mr. and Dr. Y-not, California, USA.

Don't forget to ask for non-sequential bills, too.

---

Forget that. Ask for gold

Posted by: G. Gordon Liddy at April 12, 2010 12:50 PM (Kn9r7)

54 The boneless, skinless chicken breasts with a side of arugula are coming home to roost!

It's time to pay the toll fo yo rock and roll!

Straight on to Moscow, baby!



Posted by: Rev. Obama Wright at April 12, 2010 12:50 PM (y4IbY)

55

Why isn't cutting SS on the table? Indexing the benefits for the first 5 years could help alot.

[COUGH]

Means test.

[COUGH]

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 12, 2010 12:51 PM (B+qrE)

56 Our Senators also like to ban people the nation over from owning kick-ass firearms. Bastards.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at April 12, 2010 12:51 PM (NA7sd)

57 51

Let's tax the crap out of the productive sectors of the economy and see if that will work.  No one has ever tried that.

Tax the rich! (Except for my trust fund, leftist law firms, Hollywood, the media, rappers, rockers, pop stars, NBA players and college professors)

Posted by: Leftist Who Only Wants Fairness at April 12, 2010 12:53 PM (sYxEE)

58 I think I may need to make a few more speeches and hold some really kick ass town hall meetings.

The teleprompter is fired up.  Ready to go.

Posted by: President Toonces at April 12, 2010 12:54 PM (H6Jyg)

59 Feinkenstein and Boxer are going to get together with Pelousi to ban bad things.

So don't worry. Or you will go to jail.

Posted by: sifty at April 12, 2010 12:54 PM (y4IbY)

60 I, personally, don't think $31k per household is enough.  I'm willing to pay more (but I won't unless I'm forced to), why shouldn't everyone else?

Posted by: Leftists Trust Fund Baby at April 12, 2010 12:55 PM (tWf3S)

61 Washington Spending $31,406 Per Household

Even better, most of that spending (everything outside of defense spending) goes to reduce economic growth and kill the economy.  So, the federal government, on our behalf (LOL) is spending $24,700 per household to kill the economy!  Money well spent. Take this puppy down!

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 12, 2010 12:55 PM (N49h9)

62 54 This means my mortgage and my car still get paid for, right? Posted by: Peggy Joseph at April 12, 2010 04:50 PM

You got your money, bitch!  Save some of that Obama money for us, I gotta get my nails done on Friday

Posted by: Detroit Women at April 12, 2010 12:56 PM (sYxEE)

63 8 Explain to me again why I'm looking for work?
Posted by: wherestherum at April 12, 2010 04:31 PM (gofDd)

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I just assumed you thought that might be where they were hiding the rum.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 12, 2010 12:57 PM (3K4hn)

64 ...Except for my trust fund, leftist law firms, Hollywood, the media, rappers, rockers, pop stars, NBA players and college professors)

Whoa, hold on there.  They're gonna have to poney up too.  Besides, what are they gonna do?  Vote for Sarah Palin?  Please, dude.

Posted by: President Toonces at April 12, 2010 12:58 PM (H6Jyg)

65 Remember, that money has to be distributed by the government because a pasty fatass in a cubicle in Washington knows how to spend it better than you do.

Posted by: logprof at April 12, 2010 12:58 PM (Mmw0q)

66

I applied to one gubmint job so far. The ones I get through an automated search agent are mainly technical ones I don't qualify for. I'm still trying to figure out how to get a job with the DWP.

If you have any skills that contract workers are used for get in touch with the firms that place people as contract workers. That's where all the action is. my wife, with mucho skills and degrees, was out of work for almost a year; finally broadened her search to contract work and was placed almost immediately. The kicker; she gets paid time-and-a-half to work over 40 hours a week, which she did regularly on salary (for no extra dough, of course) Both government and private firms are relying on contract workers to get stuff done without the pain that goes with actually hiring people.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 12, 2010 12:58 PM (ERJIu)

67 Yet there is no free lunch: If spending is not reined in, then eventually taxes must also rise by $10,000 per household.

This should lead to massive prosperity soon!

Posted by: Larry Kudlow at April 12, 2010 12:59 PM (sYxEE)

68 Washington Spending $31,406 Per Household It's like Christmas! When do I get my check for 31 large?

Posted by: typical Obama Voter at April 12, 2010 01:03 PM (AZGON)

69 If the economy was truly recovering like the Bubblevision and DemSM shills were claiming, Obama would be polling at least 60 percent approval

The DemSM has overestimated their ability to bullshit the public. When the economy sucks and you're the one sweating it, you know you're being fed a massive truckload of bullshit by the knob polishers

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2010 01:03 PM (sYxEE)

70 28 Maybe someone could explain the stock market to me.
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Rumor I heard is that no one can figure out what else to do with their money.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 12, 2010 01:03 PM (3K4hn)

71 Why isn't cutting SS on the table? Indexing the benefits for the first 5 years could help alot.

Posted by: Jean at April 12, 2010 04:50 PM (PjevJ)

Screw a "means test."  The gubmint held a gun to my head during my entire working life and expropriated funds that I could have invested for retirement at a much higher rate, and would have allowed me to leave something to my kid if I died early.  This was all on a promise that I would get a return of some kind on those funds when I retire, as long as I lived.  Now that feds have totally mismanaged the program (shocka!), and I'm supposed sit quietly when they tell me that my net worth makes me ineligible to collect on the promise that they made to me??

In the big picture, this is a great illustration of why the feds should NEVER have gone into the annuity business in the first place.  In the smaller picture, FUCK 'EM, IT'S MY MONEY AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT UP BECAUSE I HAVE OTHER MONEY!!!!

Posted by: Cicero at April 12, 2010 01:04 PM (QKKT0)

72 No insult intened, but isn't (California) doing a revival of Greecemania, the imploding country? My Big Fat Greek Bailout!

Posted by: George Orwell at April 12, 2010 01:05 PM (AZGON)

73 29 Of course, I don't make the profit. The syndicate makes the profit. And everybody has a share.
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What's good for M & M Enterprises is good for the country.

Posted by: Milo Minderbinder at April 12, 2010 01:05 PM (3K4hn)

74 That's just Washington's spending, eh? So we're understating the tally since state tax, local tax, and innumerable fees are excluded.

In the end, there will only be me.

Posted by: Chaos, preempting Kratos at April 12, 2010 01:06 PM (swuwV)

75 73 28 Maybe someone could explain the stock market to me.
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Rumor I heard is that no one can figure out what else to do with their money. Posted by: Anachronda at April 12, 2010 05:03 PM

Low volume, manipulation by Goldman Sachs, and massive quantities of liquidity poured in by the Fed

King Barry can demagogue against Wall Street all he wants, the big boys on Wall Street know that's just populist balm and that the powers that be want the party to go on forever.

Posted by: kbdabear at April 12, 2010 01:08 PM (sYxEE)

76 57 [COUGH] Mean test. [COUGH]
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Fixed that for ya, sonny.

Posted by: AARP at April 12, 2010 01:09 PM (3K4hn)

77

You ain't seen nothin' yet, ya bunch of racists!

You OWE me!

Posted by: The State of California at April 12, 2010 01:10 PM (F09Uo)

78

Nearly 25% of New Mexico is on Medicaid http://bit.ly/aPRHho

In a recently assembled report, the New Mexico Health Policy Commission found that 23.4 percent of the state's population was being helped through Medicaid.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 12, 2010 01:10 PM (YVZlY)

79

Nearly 25% of New Mexico is on Medicaid http://bit.ly/aPRHho

New Mexico should be immediately shuttered and offered to the highest bidder. 

Posted by: Cicero at April 12, 2010 01:13 PM (QKKT0)

80

Dear New Mexico,

I'm intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: The State of California at April 12, 2010 01:15 PM (F09Uo)

81

CATCH ME IF YOU CAN!

Posted by: Your Stack a DOUGH! at April 12, 2010 01:16 PM (rVJH4)

82 4 The country has gone full retard Biden.

Posted by: maddogg at April 12, 2010 04:27 PM (OlN4e)


FIFY

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 12, 2010 01:17 PM (erIg9)

83 Work hard and save your money so that you can pay the bills of the people who don't.

Posted by: logprof at April 12, 2010 01:20 PM (Mmw0q)

84 I see "C K McLeod" over at Hot Air's Green Room is already tut-tutting about conservatives who make a big deal about the fact that nearly half of us don't pay federal income tax. Don't talk about it! It's divisive! It will scare away pwecious independents! And Democwats! He condemns this approach by distorting Mark Steyn's argument on this matter. He claims we abbreviate it into this: "as I’ve heard assorted pundits, politicos, and sinecured think tankers do – to “soon a majority of Americans won’t be paying any taxes.”" Fuck you buddy. No one says that. We all know everyone pays other taxes, including sales taxes... which this idiot calls a "regressive tax." Uh, no, pal... a regressive tax would be one that goes proportionally higher on lesser amounts. The opposite of progressive taxation, which goes proportionally higher on greater amounts subject to taxation. Sales taxes are in fact flat taxes. This guy also sounds amenable to a VAT. He certainly has no bad words for it. But that is a lesser point. With allies like this guy, who needs enemies? Is Hot Air just a landing stage for budding David Frums now? What a dolt.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 12, 2010 01:22 PM (AZGON)

85 Can't I take that $6,700 and buy my own tank?

Posted by: Libertarian at April 12, 2010 01:32 PM (bN5ZU)

86 Shhhhh, don't bring up that book.  The next step is bombing our own troops.  And I don't like chocolate covered cotton.

Posted by: Dave in Singapore at April 12, 2010 01:35 PM (rSR+H)

87

88 Sorry, that doesn't fit within the parameters of statist wealth redistribution and social control.

 

Sometimes I find it very difficult to argue with the nwo wingnuts...this would be one of those times.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 12, 2010 01:36 PM (5/yRG)

88 Coincidentally, I just happen to be $31,406 poorer this year.  Huh. Weird.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 12, 2010 01:37 PM (7VvJB)

89

"C K McLeod" = Friend of AllahPundit

'Nuff siad!

Posted by: The State of California at April 12, 2010 01:37 PM (F09Uo)

90 Stupid sock!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 12, 2010 01:41 PM (F09Uo)

91

In the big picture, this is a great illustration of why the feds should NEVER have gone into the annuity business in the first place.  In the smaller picture, FUCK 'EM, IT'S MY MONEY AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT UP BECAUSE I HAVE OTHER MONEY!!!!

Posted by: Cicero

When we discuss changing retirement age, or means testing, we are doing what government entities have been doing for years, while simultaneously demonizing private industry for the same thing; enabling the mismanagement of these programs to continue. We also adopting the mindset of those who make one wild promise after another, leaving others to clean up the mess that they created.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 12, 2010 01:41 PM (1O93r)

92
Good thing the economically literate corruptocrats just dumped tax payer funded health care onto the backs of our kids.

Thanks, democrats!

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 12, 2010 01:47 PM (0fzsA)

93 When we discuss changing retirement age, or means testing, we are doing what government entities have been doing for years, while simultaneously demonizing private industry for the same thing; enabling the mismanagement of these programs to continue. Not to beat a dead Green Room horse, but that is essentially what this fool McLeod at HotAir prescribes... as an alternative to scaring off Teh Independentz and Teh Democwats when conservatives talk about the fact that only half of us pay federal income tax. He seems to think a delightful, non-scary alternative is means-testing SS, raising the retirement age, and so forth. Why anyone would think that would not equally frighten certain voters is a mystery he leaves unanswered.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 12, 2010 01:49 PM (AZGON)

94

Maybe someone could explain the stock market to me. No, I mean the new stock market. The old market, bad economic news made the market fall, good news made it climb. In the new stock market, the shittier the economic news, the higher the market goes. I just don't fukkin' get it.....Posted by: maddogg at April 12, 2010 04:40 PM (OlN4e)

It's called binge drinking 24/7 Bubba....everyfuckinthing looks great that way....just ask Stevie Wonder. ..............

 

 

 

Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at April 12, 2010 01:52 PM (3IZGh)

95 Is Hot Air just a landing stage for budding David Frums now?

Posted by: George Orwell at April 12, 2010 05:22 PM (AZGON)

Allah has always been yearning to be accepted into the Frum/Parker/Brooks/Noonan/... crowd.  He thinks they are smart and cool.  Then again, allah is dumb enough to STILL think that The Precedent is smart.  I think that says as much as anyone really needs to know about him.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 12, 2010 01:59 PM (N49h9)

96 I'd been willing to sign a waiver for any future Social Security indemnity benefits if right now they would just give me half of what was contributed to the fund in my name.   

Posted by: polynikes at April 12, 2010 05:38 PM (m2CN7)

Hey, I'm a smoker.  Not only do I have to pay for everyone else's health care through the worst taxes in memory, and that insane suti against the tobacco companies where $250 billion was frittered away and is now gone (though I had to pay for it in cigarette prics), but they keep taking SS from me when the government tells me that I won't even live to collect anything.  They want to hit me with higher health insurance prices, even though smokers die earlier and more quickly and, consequently, cost less than others.

We smokers have seen, for a long time, what insanity resides in the governments (federal, state and local) and what they will destroy in their insanity - both with collecting money (from people they say are as addicted as heroin junkies - not something I agree with, but the official position of the federal government) and with stomping all over the most precious of rights - private property - in order to try and demonize us.

There are not even words for the absolute torture and pain I wish on these people.  Brazen bulls are too good for them.  They deserve far, far worse.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 12, 2010 02:06 PM (N49h9)

97 74 Cicero, I didn't say a means test, by indexing I am referring to the concept of a rolling start to the benefit train.  Allowing seniors to "ease" into retirement and continue working part-time while drawing partial benefits - without effecting their long term check.  Basically give people a curve, instead of a cliff.

Posted by: Jean at April 12, 2010 02:30 PM (CPefM)

98

@8: "Explain to me again why I'm looking for work?"

'Cause you're a moron?

Remember, if you're not smart enough to steal from the government, you're not smart enough to steal for the government.  That really limits your future employment options.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 12, 2010 02:38 PM (kmEfr)

99

@46: "We'll take the cash, please. 

Send in small, unmarked bills to Mr. and Dr. Y-not, California, USA
."

You forgot to ask for non-sequential bills.  Also, you're willing to accept Uncle Barack's FunBux?  I'd be demanding gold bullion.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 12, 2010 02:53 PM (kmEfr)

100

@74: "In the big picture, this is a great illustration of why the feds should NEVER have gone into the annuity business in the first place.  In the smaller picture, FUCK 'EM, IT'S MY MONEY AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT UP..."

Not only do I like the cut of your jib, but I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at April 12, 2010 03:04 PM (kmEfr)

101 105

@46: "We'll take the cash, please. 

Send in small, unmarked bills to Mr. and Dr. Y-not, California, USA
."

You forgot to ask for non-sequential bills.  Also, you're willing to accept Uncle Barack's FunBux?  I'd be demanding gold bullion.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches


Swiss Francs

Posted by: sandbagger at April 12, 2010 03:12 PM (IOKTj)

102

@107: "Swiss Francs"

Nah, really piss off The Messiah - ask for Krugerrands

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 12, 2010 03:25 PM (kmEfr)

103 Go underground as much as possible.  Work several part time, small jobs and insist on being paid in cash.  If they can't trace it, they can't take it.

Posted by: Dastardly Dan at April 12, 2010 03:32 PM (pHH0Q)

Posted by: curious at April 12, 2010 03:38 PM (p302b)

105 101 Preach it fellow smoker!  (although I tend to agree with the addiction as strong as heroin -- I really, really love to smoke, lol!)

Posted by: unknown jane at April 12, 2010 03:47 PM (5/yRG)

106 .

Posted by: spammer at April 12, 2010 05:09 PM (W0CZS)

107 .

Posted by: spammer at April 12, 2010 06:20 PM (zcHh9)

108

I'm starting to think we need a department thats sole job is to look into govt spending.  We need them to pour over from city all the way to d.c. spending.  I'm willing to bet there are tons of programs that aren't needed anymore yet get money funneled into them.  There are likely duplicate programs and offices that exist yet all get money funneled into them.  There are also likely many programs that require an inordinary amount of steps that could be streamlined to get rid of unneeded forms, steps and maybe even some departments that all cost money but do nothing but get in the way and duplicate effort.  No department should be immune (not even the military as this is probably a place where a lot of these unneeded steps and programs exist.)

There are also so many stupid loopholes and deductions that need to go as well.  Unless we look at some of this stuff and try to get rid of the unneeded, anything that is done will only be a temporary solution and we'll be right back where we started.

Posted by: HipCat at April 12, 2010 06:23 PM (Yy0Qc)

109

I am a smoker too (sounds like an aa meet eh?) I buy my smokes at the local Indian casino. As far as I know, there are no fed or state taxes applied to the purchace. For Now.

My neighbor accross the street works for one of the anti-tobacco guv funded programs.

He must weigh 350 lbs.

I have no doubt I could out run him. And kick his ass.

Posted by: Woolie at April 12, 2010 07:11 PM (GCdxi)

110 I think the viewpoint is right.

Posted by: zirconia-blank at April 12, 2010 09:43 PM (mGDQn)

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