1 I'm opptimistic.

If they had the votes then the people like were seeing would have stayed no's because they are toast if they vote for this.

2 I'm gonna go all Eeyore - what's preventing Nancy from delaying the vote until she gives enough goodies away to get 216?

3 2 I'm gonna go all Eeyore - what's preventing Nancy from delaying the vote until she gives enough goodies away to get 216?

Posted by: David in San Diego at March 19, 2010 05:16 PM (GF+6V)

If they don't hold the vote on Sunday like they've been saying... it will weaken the already timid Democrats who have gone out on the line.  All we need to do is push this off past the Congress Easter break, and it's dead.  They cannot survive another "August Townhall Rush."

4 Posted by: David in San Diego at March 19, 2010 05:16 PM (GF+6V)

Nothing but the longer she holds out the bigger the risk she looses as many, if not more.

We were talking about this yesterday...will she pull it if the votes aren't there or will she push it and hope that it's too big to fail.

5 Nobody wants to answer my question?  I guess all te other moron's got a bad case of March Madness.

6 i withdraw my previous complaint.

Thanks to Drew and enoxo.

7 21 Senators?

Bayh
Nelson
Lincoln
Conrad

Screw it.  There is no chance to get to 21.

8

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9 I have not been able to be online or the phone this afternoon - has anyone heard if Lincoln Davis (D-Tn-4) has made a statement? a formal statement? he is suppose to be a no but I want a damn statement - fucking pansy.

10

If they don't hold the vote on Sunday like they've been saying... it will weaken the already timid Democrats who have gone out on the line.  All we need to do is push this off past the Congress Easter break, and it's dead.  They cannot survive another "August Townhall Rush."

 

This is fucking driving me BATSHIT!

 

11 you gave them 2 minutes to answer the question?

12 Keep fighting.  It ain't over till Ethel Mermen sings!

13 Stupak's 13: The Coalitioning.

14 Altmire just said he's voting NO...

15 Per Hot Air...

16 I hate these bastards with every fiber in my body.  I can't believe how much I hate them.  (I don't hate people).  It's weird, to hate people I don't even fricking know.  I hate what they are doing to this country and I hate the sleazy underhanded way they're doing it.  Obama's smarter than I thought.  He knew he would need all the unspent stimulus money to push this thing through, that's why it was all backloaded.  What a venal, corrupt, evil party.

17 Even the flippers, they just want this over ASAP.

They know they are f'king dead men this Nov.  They are just praying they can cure cancer before Nov '10 to save their asses.

I think this year is much worse for D's than '94.  This is going to be UGLY for them.

18

"5 Nobody wants to answer my question? "

Ha. I know the internet is all about instant gratification, but perhaps wait longer than 2 minutes for a reply.

19 Ellsworth just bailed on Stupak. Stupak has a press conference tomorrow AM.

This is not good.

20 It ain't over till Ethel Mermen Kirsty Alley sings!

fify

21 runningrn,

I know exactly how you feel.  I earlier said I felt like I was levitating out of my chair with anger.  I mean...literally so angry I felt lighter than I really was (I think that's a flight or fight adrenaline response or something).  This can't be good for me or anyone else so stressed out by all this.

22 I'm gonna go all Eeyore - what's preventing Nancy from delaying the vote until she gives enough goodies away to get 216?

O.k. I'll take a 'stab' at it.

Because your mother already gave all the goodies away last night. She's a screamer, I hope we didn't wake you.

23 16 I hate these bastards with every fiber in my body.  I can't believe how much I hate them.  (I don't hate people).  It's weird, to hate people I don't even fricking know.  I hate what they are doing to this country and I hate the sleazy underhanded way they're doing it.  Obama's smarter than I thought.  He knew he would need all the unspent stimulus money to push this thing through, that's why it was all backloaded.  What a venal, corrupt, evil party.

^This. I don't know if I'd ever be able to vote for a Dem now. They have embraced communism whole-heartedly.

24 2 I'm gonna go all Eeyore - what's preventing Nancy from delaying the vote until she gives enough goodies away to get 216?

Posted by: David in San Diego at March 19, 2010 05:16 PM (GF+6V)

Nothing, except she doesn't want to recess and let everyone go home and get a nasty ear full from their constituents.

25 Can't wait until the IRS wants to check if I have insurance.  I suspect I won't be the first to tell them what they will hear.

26

I suspect I won't be the first to tell them what they will hear.

Go fuck yourself?

27

Somebody needs to keep score of just the "flippers."  They're the only ones who count because the number of former Y and N Dems is 216-37, exactly the minimum number for need for passage this time.  So, for every No that flips Yes, Pelosi needs to flip a Yes to No.  Whoever gets the most flips wins, it's that simple.  (A tie goes to Pelosi, since the orginal number 216-37 is in her favor).  I think this score significantly favors the opposition to the bill.  But there's still enough Noes that could flip that its still not decisive.

28 I think Pelosi shot her wad a little early when she heard the Pope was a pedophile.  That, or perhaps the missing two years of her life down on Haight-Ashbury back in the 60's has finally caught up with her.

29 I'm not too optimistic but I am feeling a bit better. We had a relatively nice day in SE Wisconsin and I had the day off work, so I cut down 1/2 dozen bushes that weren't making it any longer. Then I tore them apart limb by limb, each branch an Obamacare supporter in my mind's eye. F'n cathartic!

30 16,

I've despised these cockholters with my entire being forevah, and it gets worse each day.

31 I suspect that the IRS will be history if Paul Ryan gets to be the Hoss!

32

Ace,

I think the Senate passing stricter abortion language is impossible and even if they did it would have to pass the house and that would never happen.

The only reason the house passed the stupak amendment was to get their votes for the health care bill. After it's passed they will give the pro life dems an F U sandwich.

33

If Nancy calls recess that's the sign the storm has passed. If it is going to be done (this round), it will have to be done by Sunday night.

Total speculation on my part with those predictions.

34 The thing that really pisses me off, isn't just that wealth redistribution is anti-american, but they're bribing corrupt congresscritters with tax money paid by the MAJORITY that don't fucking want this! Now that's the real audacity of hope. Small wonder why I couldn't make sense out of that title.

35 26 I suspect I won't be the first to tell them what they will hear. Go fuck yourself? No, probably the sound of a round being chambered.

36 26

I suspect I won't be the first to tell them what they will hear.

Go fuck yourself?

Posted by: ErikW at March 19, 2010 05:28 PM (N6UQT)

That would be the feel-good move, but never go to war with a government bureaucrat; they typically have more access to much more resources than you ever will. Just smile, hand them your lawyer's card, answer no questions and politely inform them that you cannot answer any questions. Do not pull the blaze of glory move with these folks.

37 Democrats love abortion, and if these fucks vote for it, it's official.

38 " 32 Ace,

I think the Senate passing stricter abortion language is impossible and even if they did it would have to pass the house and that would never happen.

The only reason the house passed the stupak amendment was to get their votes for the health care bill. After it's passed they will give the pro life dems an F U sandwich. "

This is so blantantly obvious that if Stupack & co fall for it they are fools or liars.

39 We'll get you at recess.

40

@35"The thing that really pisses me off, isn't just that wealth redistribution is anti-american, but they're bribing corrupt congresscritters with tax money paid by the MAJORITY that don't fucking want this! "

Fucking galling, ain't it? Let's hope Coburn makes them sell themselves for nothing, at least.

41

We'll get you at recess.

Ben Nelson's shunning at the pizza parlor is only the tip of the iceberg.

42

I hate these bastards with every fiber in my body.  I can't believe how much I hate them.

I know you do.  I can feel your anger.  It gives you focus -- makes you stronger.

43

I highly recommend Valium to soothe the savage nerves.

44 I'm not above calling someone a pussy, but I'm afraid it ain't looking good.  The Dems will do whatever it takes to wrangle up the last few votes- they've said as much.  I suspect that some of the supposed "no" / leaning "no" votes are only holding out for a bigger portion of taxpayer bacon.  Give it to them and they'll vote yes.  What's a few hundred million here and there? 

45

My insurance doesn't actually cover Valium, so I pay cash for the much cheaper Diazepam generic. If Odumbass starts putting it in gumball machines, I'll keep my quarter in protest.