1 Classic symptom of bad muffler bearings, if I ever seen 'em.

2 This is just the high-tech version of "Hey, Watch THIS!".

3 Airpwane faw down go boom!

4 http://tinyurl.com/2fskyfy

5 well done sir!

6

I think George Bush is behind this.  He has experience rigging airplanes to crash.

7 Weird that the music playing on the PA at the time of the crash was "Stayin' Alive"

8 What the hell was that?  Was he trying to land it on its tail?

9 Gravity is racist!!! man.  Always be forcen the man DOWN!

10 I think in the insurance biz they call that totaled.

11 8 One of two engines failed. The pilot is lucky to be alive after the departure from level flight. He had very little time to eject before he would have been rocketed into the ground. The Canadian aircrew mechs should be praised for the work on his Martin-Baker seat.

12 He was demonstrating the jets awesome thrust-to-weight ratio, but he got too deep into the stall.  His ground speed looked way too low.

He appeared to apply full power, which could have saved him, but once the jet began its slow slide to the right it may as well been a multi-million dollar brick..

13 Look Ma no hands!

14

I'm pretty sure Toyota made that plane and not good ol' honest to god red white & blue American union labor.

15

That almost looks like Drew M attempting to do a barrel roll to evade enemy AAA fire and failing in the middle of a Sherrod post.

16 The Canadian aircrew mechs should be praised for the work on his Martin-Baker seat.

Word.

Mr. Pilot owes a bunch of crew members a case of whatever hooch they prefer to drink.... and he should pay that tab with a huge smile on his face!

17 I'm pretty sure Toyota made that plane and not good ol' honest to god red white & blue American union labor.

Posted by: Some Leftard at July 23, 2010 10:16 PM (t72+4)

Did it have Rolls-Royce engines?  Those Limeys are out to screw over EVERYBODY!

18 Why doesn't this video play on Firefox on a MacBook?  WHY?

19 The pilot was a librl, ditched the plane to spite CanadianImperialism.

20 Whatta dumbshit.

I could've shown him how it's properly done.

21 The plane acted stupidly.

22




Don't worry Dave, that was just me ejecting over Keepfuckingthatchickenstan after getting hit by a reality rocket in the last Sherrod thread.

Danny Glover or Gene Hackman will rescue me any minute, I'm sure.

23 That'll buff right out.

24 Thank you Martin Baker.

25 When they bought the planes centuries ago the engines were the Bmodel(cheaper-thinner vanes,etc.) and they had a history of VEN problems.

26 He might be okay.

No.  Probably not now.

27 Did he wait until the past possible moment to eject, or what?

28 Speaking of ejections, almost recently white carbon dioxide exhaler seeks nice woman/cocksucker.

29 #18.  Ok on mine...

with Firefox 3.6.7...

30 Ummm....make that "almost recently divorced" white male....mmkay? I'm serial! Like a molestor, even.....

31

@18: Why doesn't this video play on Firefox on a MacBook?  WHY?

1.  You don't have JavaScript enabled

2.  You don't have Flash plugin installed

3.  You don't have video codec.

4.  You run some kind of blocking software

32 Strangepork - Actually he got in trouble very quickly, at very low altitude. If he had been a less experienced pilot he might have thought he could recover the craft to controlled flight and would have ended up going in with it.
If he had been at a higher altitude he could have recovered by falling out (just as it did after he ejected) and diving to recover airspeed. Notice the aircraft impacted in an almost perfect vertical descent.

And bless the maker of the zero-Zero ejection seat. (Not sure if the one in the CF-18 is made by Martin-Baker.)

33

Like the "Intruder" reference.  Great movie

 

34 I think George Bush is behind this.  He has experience rigging airplanes to crash.

No, no.  It's the Jooos.

35 I prefer helicopters:  No wings on an aircraft I'm piloting always has a calming effect on me.  Wings only get in the way.....

36 MAJHAM - Better book.

Stan - Those rotors sorta make mincemeat of you if you try to eject.

37 A little Bondo and she'll be good as new.

38 I guess they don't care if they trash the F-18's anymore cuz they're buying some F-35's  

39 While we're on the subject, here's a low-level ejection out of a MiG-29 auguring in.

40 So, maybe the Barefoot Bandit should strap it on. He's a natural.

41 Hmmmm, the Soviets really don't have much luck at airshows.

42 A helicopter is 10,000 parts at the edge of suffering metal fatigue rotating around an oil leak.

43 Amen on the zero-zero seats! Also goes to show just how dangerous low-speed, low-altitude, high-alpha passes are. The piston guys (Kirby Chambliss, Jurgis Kairys) that do it pretty much just accept that if the fan goes they're auguring in, especially since those guys do it during takeoff... http://tinyurl.com/272ut93 Jurgis Kairys is unbelievable to watch, but he is definitely certifiably insane........

44 A helicopter is 10,000 parts at the edge of suffering metal fatigue rotating around an oil leak.

Posted by: helofixer at July 23, 2010 11:32 PM (aVrEv)

true.  and your point is.................?

Stan - Those rotors sorta make mincemeat of you if you try to eject.

Posted by: Have Blue at July 23, 2010 11:17 PM (mV+es)

Ejection?  WTF is that?    Just stay low and slow and you'll be all right

45

Hmmmm, the Soviets really don't have much luck at airshows.

...but it was very artful how they ejected and came down side by side like that...looked almost like it was planned

46

And bless the maker of the zero-Zero ejection seat. (Not sure if the one in the CF-18 is made by Martin-Baker.)

Thought it was an ACES II seat but I guess it is made by Martin Baker. In the F-4 there was a saying, "meet your maker in a Martin Baker." Guess they've come a long way since then. Notice that he was almost out of the ejection envelope and the seat turned him rightside up before the chute deployed.

47 Sorry. Misspelled "auger."

48 There's a very fine line between, "I can save this" and "Its fucked, time to go".

He called that one right.

49 Let me show you how a professional does it.

50 I wonder if the Canuck libs will stop bitching about their government buying F-35s now.  Probably not.  They don't seem to mind that their helicopter crews are flying around in 50 yr old "Sea Kings" that were supposed to be replaced in 1993.

51

Let me show you how a professional does it.

That was pretty shocking.

52 Low and slow does not always equal all right. Height-velocity curve also called dead mans curve. I dont know your familiarity with rotary winged aircraft, but you can be too low and slow to successfully  perform an autorotation.

I believe there were tests back in the day with explosive bolts that attached the main rotor to the hub that would allow blade separation so an ejection seat could go upwards on a helicopter.

53 @52: The Russians evidently did it with the Kamov KA-50. Don't think I'd want to be the guinea pig for that trial though! Not that there are volunteers lining up for *any* ejection seat testing.....

54 Things that suck...

70's disco music and getting way behind the power curve.

55 Not that there are volunteers lining up for *any* ejection seat testing.....

Pick me. I'll do anything to get the hell out of here.

56 I beg to differ.  I had alot of fun in the disco era.  yeah, I know, go ahead... call me whatever you want.  I still had a fucking blast.

57 Make a little love, do a little dance.. get down tonight.

58 I hope he realizes that they're going to dock his pay until the aircraft cost is paid back.

59

Let me show you how a professional does it.

That was pretty shocking.

Posted by: CanaDave at July 23, 2010 11:56 PM (8TT4U)

That was just the grande finale.

There's more.

60 Appropriate music in the background though. 

61 pilots are so cool !

62

Bud Holland was an asshole.

63 Holland was lucky to have lived long enough crater that runway.  Reckless to the point of suicidal.  I hope his chain of command was shitcanned for that stunt.

64 Posted by: SantaRosaStan
I prefer helicopters:  No wings on an aircraft I'm piloting always has a calming effect on me.  Wings only get in the way.....

Yabut, why is it that a helicopter can fly when the wings are going faster than the fuselage?

And given that the advancing blade is going faster through the relative wind than the retreating blade, how fast do you have to be going before that advancing blade catches up to the retreating blade?

And when an aircraft requires something called a "Jesus Nut" to keep itself from flying into a jillion separate parts, is there some sort of cotter pin or safety wire on that Jesus Nut? And does that hurt the Baby Jesus?

65 I remember a Mig-29 at the Paris airshow in 1989 setting the standard for how not to do a low speed pass with the same result.  You'd think these pilots would learn, but nope.

66 Yabut, why is it that a helicopter can fly when the wings are going faster than the fuselage?

There is no aerodynamic problem known to man that will not fit on the tip of a chopper blade.

67 No mystery here, the stupid fucker stalled the plane to low to recover. 

He should be fired.

68

Okay, look at the two jet exhaust nozzles in the first photo.  Not open equally, right?  Right engine failed in some way, and the airplane was below the speed at which the thrust of one engine could be overcome by the rudders.  There is a name for that - it might be V_mc - the minimum single-engine control speed.

The Canadians do this manuever all the time at airshows.  It is not intended to show the power of the CF-18, it is intended to show how the leading edge wing-root extensions and slots can allow the plane to fly at an extremely high angles of attack, which has nothing to do with attacking anything, by the way.

So it is a strictly for-show manuever, and it is well known that if you suffer an engine-out in doing it, you must eject - there is no way to fly the plane out of it.  If you were at 10,000 ft, you could put the nose down, pick up speed, and recover for a safe single-engine landing.  At 200 feet you are in the classic spot of being out of altitude, out of speed, and out of ideas, except to pull the eject lever.

The MiG-29 crash at the Paris Air Show a few years back was virtually identical - except that in that one you could actually see the engine fail as it ingested a bird.  In this case the cause is not obvious, but it was clearly an engine failure.

ps. Can any of you morons guess why "MiG" is capitalized that way?

69 Kemp, he was performing a manuever that has been done at Canadian airshows for years - he did not stall, he spun in as a result of engine failure.  I have wondered why the Canucks persist in performing a manuever that is so dangerous, but the pilot did not do anything the program did not call for him to do.

70 Nice that he ejected sideways. Had he shot straight up into sky, he'd have come down into the fireball below.

71

Can any of you morons guess why "MiG" is capitalized that way?

I bet Obama knows, what with him being hella smart and all.

72 That's some show, all right.

73 Eject eject eject- "what do I say?" "you even say huh, and you'll be talking to yourself, cause I'll be gone" One of the best movies ever...nice reference!

74 It is an abbreviation/acronym for Mikoyan-Guerovich (sp?), I believe the two founders of the soviet aircraft bureau which built them.

75

It looks like the jet stalled out in a slow speed flight demonstration.  When a jet stalls out, the air flow separates from the top of the wing.  However, it doesn't stop at once, but stutters.  The air flow will snap from flowing smoothly over the top of the wing to departing that smooth flow and then back again.  It feels like the top of the wings are being slapped about as fast as you can clap your hands.  Then the airflow departs completely and you stall out.

However, because no pair of wings are perfectly identical, one wing will have imperfections which cause it to stall out before the other wing.  In this case, the right wing stalled out first and the jet pitched down and to the right.

If you watch this video carefully, you can see this process start out while the jet is still in level flight.  As it slows to stall speed, you can see the jet wobble a bit from wing to wing as the pilot tries to keep both wings out of the stall.  He can feel and hear the stall buffetting on his wings by then and feel it through his rudder pedals.  He knows he is in Big Trouble by then, the kind with no solution.

76
That almost looks like Drew M attempting to do a barrel roll to evade enemy AAA fire and failing in the middle of a Sherrod post.

Posted by: Blazer at July 23, 2010 10:18 PM (t72+4)

Blazer's always good for a laugh.  That was great.

77

#79  You are descibing the syptoms, but you have the cause wrong. He does stall, or more properly, he enters a spin, where one wing stalls and the aircraft begins to nose down and rotate toward the stalled wing.

But the reason he enters a spin can be seen in the first three photos.  The right engine has quit or flamed out or compressor-stalled or something - you can see that its nozzle is closed down, while the left engine, still running, has its nozzle wide open.  The nozzles are automatically controlled by the engine control systems to give the optimum thrust at whatever the current altitude, airspeed, and throttle setting.  They should never be different like they are in the photos!

In the third photo, you can see flame coming from the left engine as the aircraft hits, probably from fuel tanks bursting into the engine as the forward fuselage of the aircraft is destroyed.  Don't be fooled - it is the left engine - the airplane is almost inverted as it hits.  Note that there is no such flame from the right (bottom) engine - the one that failed.

78 I bet that put a little spot in his shorts.

79 Good commentary, Sherlock.  Very knowledgeable.

80 Wow!  Glad the pilot got out and is alive and relatively uninjured!

81

Reading the thread - hoping all is meant in jest.

Otherwise - the Canadian military is about our closest buds any where at any time.  Pound for pound, they hit about as hard as anyone can hit, and they fight with us.  Glad to hear the pilot got out alive and uninjured.

And to those who are running down the Canadian Forces, and not in jest, you all can go mate your rear ends with a high-speed meat slicer.