November 21, 2010

Where in the World is the Head Ewok? (Ben)
— Open Blogger

Is Ace visiting our English cousins in the Albion? He says no, but the video says oh yes!

Security Camera Footage Below the Fold.

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1
oy vey

Posted by: Soothsayer McRib at November 21, 2010 03:33 PM (5iMvt)

2
'Strange fetish' is an understatement.

Posted by: Soothsayer McRib at November 21, 2010 03:35 PM (5iMvt)

3 I surrender! No more complaining about lack of content on weekends!

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at November 21, 2010 03:35 PM (yfJ6g)

4 What, so flirting is a crime now?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 21, 2010 03:35 PM (iyvmV)

5
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Posted by: the slide of civilization at November 21, 2010 03:35 PM (5iMvt)

6 can't he just smell his own fingers?  sheesh.

Posted by: learflyer at November 21, 2010 03:37 PM (9vscO)

7
Can someone tell me why Pete Rose is banned from baseball but Michael Vick is about to become this season's NFL MVP?

Posted by: the slide of civilization at November 21, 2010 03:37 PM (/AACO)

8 Wasn't there already a thread about this? Last time I saw him, he was forcibly extracting oral sex from a frog in front in front of little children.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 03:37 PM (tJjm/)

9 Good heavens!  Have we no decorum?

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 03:37 PM (c1oyg)

10 Um, how do you NOT notice a guy who bends down to ass level two or three times in your presence?

Posted by: joncelli at November 21, 2010 03:39 PM (MLQL2)

11

you know in the other two videos they have on this sick fuck he has on a 'Yes We Did' t-shirt.

you just know it.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 03:39 PM (0HP3g)

12

Can someone tell me why Pete Rose is banned from baseball but Michael Vick is about to become this season's NFL MVP?

he'll never bet the mvp for many reasons.

one, the nfl would never allow it.

He's not in the top 25 in passing yards.  He's 27th.

He hasn't played enough games, and finally he won't finish the season. He's gonna get hurt.

Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2010 03:39 PM (DKV43)

13
It's true, Pete Rose directly 'hurt' the game of baseball, whereas Michael Vick's crimes didn't diminish the game.

But Vick's crimes were downright inhumane. Subhuman, even. I don't give a shit about dogs, btw. My concern with Vick is that he's a sick fuck. Pete Rose is just a degenerate.


Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 03:40 PM (/AACO)

14

Wasn't there already a thread about this?

Last time I saw him, he was forcibly extracting oral sex from a frog in front in front of little children.

Three threads went up at 6 pm. i took this one down so as not to steal the thunder from rdbrewer and journolist.

 

Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2010 03:40 PM (DKV43)

15

Can someone tell me why Pete Rose is banned from baseball but Michael Vick is about to become this season's NFL MVP?

because they're only dogs.

*shrugs*

apparently the Goodell is a closet Muslim. he's 'proud of his success story' dontchaknow?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 03:41 PM (0HP3g)

16 " Good heavens!  Have we no deco-rum?" Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 07:37 PM (c1oyg) No, she only posts after sundown. It's kind of creepy.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 03:41 PM (tJjm/)

17 Can someone tell me why Pete Rose is banned from baseball but Michael Vick is about to become this season's NFL MVP?

Posted by: the slide of civilization at November 21, 2010 07:37 PM (/AACO)

I used to think that way about Vick, but...the man spent three years in jail.  He paid his debt to society...keep him on a short leash, agreed, but doesn't everyone deserve a shot at redemption?

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 03:42 PM (c1oyg)

18

But Vick's crimes were downright inhumane. Subhuman, even.

amen. and can't be said enough.

this needs to be on the back of his jersey. 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 03:43 PM (0HP3g)

19 but doesn't everyone deserve a shot at redemption?

short answer: no

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 03:44 PM (0HP3g)

20
how do you NOT notice a guy who bends down to ass level two or three times in your presence?

I was wondering the same thing.

Several years ago one of the magazine tv shows (48 Hours maybe?) did a segment on how sensitive people's rear ends are. The premise was this: people (women in particular) do not like when their bums are brushing up against stuff.

The interesting part was when they pointed out that department stores understand this and they make sure their clothing racks are not too close together.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 03:45 PM (/AACO)

21

In re.  Why Vick and not Rose. 

Because Football has fouls and Baseball has outs.

Posted by: journolist at November 21, 2010 03:45 PM (O/NP5)

22 Ah, the smell of mongo cheese.  It be the best.

Posted by: Andi at November 21, 2010 03:45 PM (JpFM9)

23

short answer: no

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 07:44 PM (0HP3g)

Why?  (And I'm an animal guy.)

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 03:46 PM (c1oyg)

24 Ah yes, here we have the famous fascist reich-wing Nazi tolerance for 'people of other's colons'.

Posted by: Comic Book Charlie at November 21, 2010 03:47 PM (nR7pG)

25
Sure, redemption. Do time. Pay a fine. Etc.

But if you're running a mulit-billion-dollar first class organization like the NFL, wouldn't you exclude him?

Again, I don't care about dogs, but the man hooked up jumper cables to the dog's testicles.

 

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 03:48 PM (5iMvt)

26 No, she only posts after sundown. It's kind of creepy.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 07:41 PM (tJjm/) .

...........

is she a vampire?

Posted by: Racefan at November 21, 2010 03:48 PM (qLtps)

27 That perv has a future in airport security.

Posted by: Never Mind at November 21, 2010 03:52 PM (hESW9)

28 @24: because torturing dogs is the same as torturing children. Dogs think they are US. Any owner knows they are just like us: they feel fear, love, happiness, even guilt. Imagine electrocuting little kids, or forcing them to knife each other? That's what that evil torturing monster did. THAT'S WHY.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 03:52 PM (tJjm/)

29 The guy is just an innocent TSA agent practicing his craft.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 03:52 PM (UOM48)

30
You all like Dice, right? I mean, shit, we grew up on Dice's comedy and astute  observations of society.

Dice used to heckle his hecklers. One time these two jerkoffs were giving Dice a had time. Maybe you remember, this is when he asked them, "What are your names, Neil and Bob, or is that just what you do?"

Then he goes, "I'll bet you're the type of guy who likes to hang out outside men's bathrooms so you can smell other people's shit."

How awesome is that, eh? Eh?

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 03:53 PM (5iMvt)

31 @27: I prefer to think of her as a succubus.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 03:54 PM (tJjm/)

32 So the InstaChicken recipe I tried turned out great.

Like I thought, it was a bit heavy on the veggies (gotta big bag of leftovers).

The critical thing is the sweet potato. You gotta have at least one large one as it turns the salty sauce into a very nice sweet, semi-salty sauce.

You may now return to your McRib sammies.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 21, 2010 03:54 PM (7+pP9)

33 Sure, redemption. Do time. Pay a fine. Etc.  But if you're running a mulit-billion-dollar first class organization like the NFL, wouldn't you exclude him?  Again, I don't care about dogs, but the man hooked up jumper cables to the dog's testicles.
 
Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 07:48 PM (5iMvt)

Well, I love dogs, and what Vick did was disgusting.  But redemption is what separates us from Iran.  He seems sincere- If he fucks up again, ban him for life, but give him a chance to redeem himself.

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 03:54 PM (c1oyg)

34

Why?  (And I'm an animal guy.)

He hung , electrocuted, and drowned those animals. He's a psychopath. What kind of message does this send? 'Pay your time' [yeah, right] and come back and lead the big pimpin' lifestyle of an NFL player.

What a nice role model for children.

 

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 03:54 PM (0HP3g)

35 Re; that Politico piece on the side bar about Angle, what have we learned class, today about the worthlessness of the NRSC, and many anonymous sources

Posted by: justin cord at November 21, 2010 03:54 PM (O20xS)

36

But redemption is what separates us from Iran.

No what separates us from Iran is that we don't treat animals like property and or dispose of them in a criminal fashion.

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 03:56 PM (0HP3g)

37 Evening all!  'Back from our whirlwind trip to California.  IT BLOWS!  Fortunately, the miserable rainy weather while we were there washed away any remorse I might feel about leaving our house (now in escrow!).  We are looking for suggestions on what to burn in effigy next month when escrow closes.  We're thinking of a Schwarzenegger DVD, but are open to better ideas. 

Also, the SavagePoodles had their best pick 'em weekend ever - 10 points so far.  I guess me being away and having to make picks early helped.  What does that say about my judgment?  Yeah, don't say it. 

Hey, kudos to the various open bloggers who have generated so much content this weekend, btw!

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 03:57 PM (UcOiF)

38 30 The guy is just an innocent TSA agent practicing his craft.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 07:52 PM (UOM4

........................

well they say the full body scan cant see a bomb up their ass, so he might be.

Posted by: Racefan at November 21, 2010 03:57 PM (qLtps)

39
In Afghanistan they play soccer with the goat's head.


That ain't right.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 03:58 PM (5iMvt)

40
The critical thing is the sweet potato. You gotta have at least one large one as it turns the salty sauce into a very nice sweet, semi-salty sauce.

That should really read a very nice semi-sweet, semi-salty sauce.

It's a very good melding of flavors.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 21, 2010 03:59 PM (7+pP9)

41 I'm always stunned by well-to-do retirees who live in our hood, who abandon with no thought whatsoever, de-clawed or not, house cats.  The poor animals roam the neighborhood, being fed and cared for as much as possible.

I only hope the snow birds who moved down here and abandoned defenseless animals, end up the same as the poor cats.  Bastards.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 03:59 PM (UOM48)

42 40
In Afghanistan they play soccer with the goat's head.


That ain't right.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 07:58 PM (5iMvt)

Yeah, well, the goat is dead because they were afraid it would talk.

Posted by: tcn at November 21, 2010 03:59 PM (+dwY/)

43

In Afghanistan they play soccer with the goat's head.

are you making a funny?? I mean it seems 110% plausible, but.....

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 04:00 PM (0HP3g)

44 Barney Frank was in England this weekend?

Posted by: Botox Pelosi at November 21, 2010 04:00 PM (gm8Qt)

45 lacey, they're not kidding.  The Arabs and their inbred offspring are a lovely people.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:01 PM (UOM48)

46

He hung , electrocuted, and drowned those animals. He's a psychopath. What kind of message does this send? 'Pay your time' [yeah, right] and come back and lead the big pimpin' lifestyle of an NFL player.

What a nice role model for children.

 Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 07:54 PM (0HP3g)

Ok, let's make no mistake.  The guy is an absolute scumbag.  I agree completely.  If the guy tried to do that to one of my dogs, I'd kill him myself.  But why is it so inconceivable that he's seen the light?  Isn't that what America is about?  Second chances?  If he even jaywalks, fuck him.  But he just might be sincere, and he deserves that chance.

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:02 PM (c1oyg)

47
In Afghanistan they play soccer with the goat's head.
----

I thought it was more akin to polo. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 04:02 PM (UcOiF)

48 If Vick gets hurt again, let's do to him what he did to injured dogs.

Posted by: Sarah McLachlan, PETA, etc. at November 21, 2010 04:02 PM (oU6QM)

49 Ombudsman, when Joy Behar "sees the light" I'll go along with you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:03 PM (UOM48)

50 Not to be pedantic, but the Afghans aren't Arabs, but mostly Pashtun, which is ethnically and linguistically different. They've got their own forms of unloveliness, though.

Posted by: joncelli at November 21, 2010 04:03 PM (MLQL2)

51
I was going to say polo at first, but I think it's more common they use it for soccer. But I'm pretty it's both polo and soccer.

But then again, how many poor Afghanis own horses?

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 04:04 PM (5iMvt)

52 My youngest b-i-l was married to a Paki.  They are divorced and have two lovely, yet fucked up, daughters. 

Note to American men:  Don't marry crazy-assed, Muslim chicks who hate this country.  I hope and pray b-i-l never, ever, ever lets his ex take his girls to Pokeeston. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:06 PM (UOM48)

53

No what separates us from Iran is that we don't treat animals like property and or dispose of them in a criminal fashion.

 Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 07:56 PM (0HP3g)

According to the law, animals ARE chattel property, like your I-Pod or flat screen TV.  I kill your shelter tabby, I'm liable for the cost of getting you a new shelter cat.  If I kill your champion Siamese, I'm on the hook for thousands

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:07 PM (c1oyg)

54
My point about the goat's head was that even though the goat is dead and it's just food, it's still not right to use its head as a play thing.

I mean, look, goats have faces. Goats are mammals, too. And it's bloody and disgusting.

It's wrong for children to think it's okay to treat animals, even dead ones, like that.

It diminishes one's humanity.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 04:07 PM (5iMvt)

55 we kicked his ass out of At....... thats one thing i am Proud of us for........ fuck vick.

Posted by: Racefan at November 21, 2010 04:07 PM (qLtps)

56
Start a friggnin pumpkin patch and kick pumpkins around, for pete's sake!

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 04:08 PM (5iMvt)

57

But he just might be sincere, and he deserves that chance.

says who? he deserves a chance to make millions upon millions?

if he wanted to be 'redeemed' he could lead a humble life working for minimum wage as a wal-mart greeter. the NFL just gave him the opportunity that less than one percent of the population will ever get. an opportunity that was squandered the first time around on crimes that *should* have been so off the charts heinous that they just washed their hands of him.

the message this sends to young pepole that idiolize these rejects is backwards. get yourself in trouble; pay a minimal fine and a few months/years in jail and come back and make yourself whole again to the tune of a few million.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 04:09 PM (0HP3g)

58 40 In Afghanistan they play soccer with the goat's head. That ain't right. You're thinking of a game they play with a whole dead goat while mounted on horseback. Seems gross, but the Mujehadeen used to play it with dead Soviet soldiers, to...

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 04:09 PM (tJjm/)

59
In Mongolia they used to use human heads to play polo.

Presently? Is that true?

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 04:09 PM (5iMvt)

60 Tonight's game is going to blow.  I hate both teams, but especially the Eagles and Vick (who looks stoned in these interviews, btw). 


My report from my weekend flights.  I was not selected for pat downs (boo hoo).  Salt Lake aiport seemed to have body scanners, but also had metal detectors.  They asked me if I had anything that would set off the metal detector and I said 'no' so that's what they put me through. 

At the other end (Ontario, CA), they didn't seem to have the body scanners, just metal detectors. 

I saw three other people being patted down.  All of them were older (over 60, I'd say) and one of them was absolutely elderly.  One of the older ladies had her skirt pulled up to her waist in full view of everyone.  During her pat down they grasped her arm up high at the arm pit and held it there.  Very awkward.  I actually stood and watched one of them (I was waiting for my husband), an elderly man getting patted down.  They went inside the waistband, but I didn't see them go down the front of his pants.  These are not the quick pats you see in cop shows.  These are grasps and rubs. 

I think the fact that they are lying about the kids getting groped coupled with the fact that the criteria seems to be biased towards picking on older people (because they are disproportionately likely to have medical conditions that trigger problems with the machies), will lead to the demise of this bullshit. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 04:10 PM (UcOiF)

61 Speaking of goats' heads, take a stroll through the Atlanta Farmer's Market (which is a truly amazing place on this planet).  There have always been whole goat's heads (eyeballs intact) that some of the locals buy for whatever.  I used to take our boy there when he was a little guy.  We'd graze our way through the huge market eating bread, cheese, whatever.  And I'd buy lovely tulips flown in from Holland for a song.  Sigh.  Good times. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:11 PM (UOM48)

62 ut he just might be sincere, and he deserves that chance.

says who? he deserves a chance to make millions upon millions?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 08:09 PM (0HP3g)

That's his occupation.  He's an NFL quarterback, not an accountant, dentist, or garbage man.  The going wage for quarterbacks is what it is. 

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:12 PM (c1oyg)

63 @63: I think that Man's Best Friend is more worthy of consideration than Vic. Calling that piece of work an "animal" would be an insult to animals.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 04:12 PM (tJjm/)

64
How much clearer can I make the fact I do not give a shit about animals?

You think Ted Nugent would ever treat a deer's carcass like that?

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 04:13 PM (5iMvt)

65

like your I-Pod or flat screen TV

I was thinking more of the quotes his teammates said.

this is their mentailty  re the charges-

"then you're putting him behind bars for no reason. I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property. It's his dog. If that's what he wants to do, do it"

they don't see it as a crime apparently. property. animal cruelty laws be dammed; just my chattle.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 04:13 PM (0HP3g)

66 Lacey I think he is still paying for his crimes.  I think he is still in major debt.  I also doubt he has any supplemental income beyond his game checks, because I can't see any company wanting to use him for endorsements.  He comes off as being a changed person.  And he's doing work with the Humane society, and I don't think he's done fuck all with PETA.  That's a big plus in my book since the Humane Society seems to be actually concerned with animal well being and PETA is concerned with promoting themselves.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2010 04:14 PM (oVQFe)

67 That's his occupation.  He's an NFL quarterback, not an accountant, dentist, or garbage man.  The going wage for quarterbacks is what it is.

Good thing he's not a professor or ace would protest the stadium until he made an appropriate salary of $60k/yr. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 21, 2010 04:14 PM (UcOiF)

68  29 @24: because torturing dogs is the same as torturing children. Dogs think they are US. Any owner knows they are just like us: they feel fear, love, happiness, even guilt. Imagine electrocuting little kids, or forcing them to knife each other? That's what that evil torturing monster did.

I hear that a new two new George Tiller type clinics are opening up in early winter. Locations to be announced.

Posted by: dagny at November 21, 2010 04:14 PM (2GOHX)

69 okay this can go nowhere good -out. later ya'llz

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 04:15 PM (0HP3g)

70  And I'd buy lovely tulips flown in from Holland for a song.  Sigh.  Good times. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 08:11 PM (UOM4

do you mean the one thats really in Decab Co.......  kinda northeast of downtown?

 

Posted by: Racefan at November 21, 2010 04:15 PM (qLtps)

71

Locations to be announced.

Take that up w/your legislators that don't ban (a) abortions and (b) funding for abortions.

While I don't liken animals to children - abortion is still legal. electrocuting dogs is not.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 04:16 PM (0HP3g)

72

Whoa. Has Ace finally flipped and endorsed anarchy?

 

Posted by: ErikW at November 21, 2010 04:17 PM (+LT9U)

73 Racefan, yep......How you doin'?  I'm talking about the DeKalb Farmer's Market.  Lord, I miss that place.  When I'm forced to go to the ATL to the libtard "X-Mas" event, if they're open the day after, I'm there. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:17 PM (UOM48)

74

If anyone remembers the '70's, the Houston Astros had a very good centerfielder who was involved with shooting (and killling) a woman in a motel, "by accident". Cesar Cedeno.

There is no MLB rule about being involved with a shooting, only gambling.  Betting on the game (which Rose did).

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at November 21, 2010 04:17 PM (sJTmU)

75

Take that up w/your legislators that don't ban (a) abortions and (b) funding for abortions.

I do.

While I don't liken animals to children - abortion is still legal. electrocuting dogs is not.

Yep.

Posted by: dagny at November 21, 2010 04:19 PM (2GOHX)

76

they don't see it as a crime apparently. property. animal cruelty laws be dammed; just my chattle.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 08:13 PM (0HP3g)

Lacey, I'm not defending Vick at all. I'm just saying that the law says what it says, for good or ill. Why is it so inconceivable that he could change?

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:19 PM (c1oyg)

77 After the first sniff he's thinking, "Jasmine?, No not jasmine." Second sniff: "Coriander! No." Third sniff: "Mango and green apples? Nope." Fourth sniff: "Concord grape and bleu cheese? Close"

Posted by: eman at November 21, 2010 04:19 PM (CbwqF)

78

the message this sends to young pepole that idiolize these rejects is backwards. get yourself in trouble; pay a minimal fine and a few months/years in jail and come back and make yourself whole again to the tune of a few million.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 08:09 PM (0HP3g)

That's sooo wrong.

Posted by: archie bunker scooter libbey at November 21, 2010 04:19 PM (7+pP9)

79

I was thinking more of the quotes his teammates said.

this is their mentailty  re the charges-

"then you're putting him behind bars for no reason. I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property. It's his dog. If that's what he wants to do, do it"

they don't see it as a crime apparently. property. animal cruelty laws be dammed; just my chattle.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 08:13 PM (0HP3g)

Probably some of them are involved with it.  These guys aren't exactly rocket scientists.  Plenty of them are thugs and clueless of the laws.  Michael Vick was one of them.  It doesn't seem like he is anymore.  I'm not going to invite him over for dinner, but better for all that he's reversed course.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2010 04:21 PM (oVQFe)

80

shit I said I was leaving....

and I am....

dagny, you could never live here in Ohio. it would make you literally sick.

 we had two women in the past two years that left their kids in the car during 90+ temps for 7-8 hours at a time. the children basically fried from the inside out. the mother's couldn't be charged because there was no type of negligence statute that would fit that type of 'circumstance' as they were calling it.

meanwhile people that leave their dogs outside or in cars with excessive heat are charged w/misdemeanors, felonies depending on the circumstances. because there's laws on the books for that.

assbackwards indeed....

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 21, 2010 04:22 PM (0HP3g)

81 Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 08:17 PM (UOM4 . ............. that is a cool place....... i like the fish part of it....... that big salmon with a big knife stuck in it....... you just cut off what you want and weigh it....... they have it all there........

Posted by: Racefan at November 21, 2010 04:23 PM (qLtps)

82 lacey, I totally agree with you.  But what about people who see no problem whatsoever with killing, watching kittens and cats killed?  Yeah, many people don't view them the same as dogs, but for many of us, they're sweet, loving, intelligent companions.

A few years ago, D'oh Boy was on a highway with a friend, and called me damned near crying.  Some asshole was throwing little kittens out the window onto the highway, and he described them trying to crawl off the road, and being killed.  He called 911 and no one cared. 

I read a local blog a few years ago where a guy described being at a stoner party, where a tiny kitten was put in a microwave and cooked alive.  He said he was too cowardly to stop it, and he'd never forget the ungodly screams of the little animal.

As horrible as sub-humans treat dogs, "normal" people think killing and hurting cats is hilarious.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:24 PM (UOM48)

83 Speaking of goats' heads, take a stroll through the Atlanta Farmer's Market (which is a truly amazing place on this planet).  There have always been whole goat's heads (eyeballs intact) that some of the locals buy for whatever.  I used to take our boy there when he was a little guy.  We'd graze our way through the huge market eating bread, cheese, whatever.  And I'd buy lovely tulips flown in from Holland for a song.  Sigh.  Good times. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 08:11 PM (UOM4

Ah, yes...my mom and dad used to live in Atlanta, ran a restaurant so every time we went to visit them we would make at least one trip to the Farmer's Market.  I had never seen so many different kind of things, from so many different cultures, that were all considered "food".  Amazing.

First time I saw goat heads (sans goat bodies) was on a trip to Nuevo Laredo, Mexico.  Propped up in the window of a restaurant, like an advertisement.  "Today's Special: Disembodied Goat Heads!!)

Posted by: antisocialist at November 21, 2010 04:24 PM (Rwudm)

84 That's his occupation. He's an NFL quarterback, not an accountant, dentist, or garbage man. The going wage for quarterbacks is what it is.

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 08:12 PM (c1oyg)


Horse shit.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at November 21, 2010 08:21 PM (wOtDN)

I thought we conservatives were believers in the free market?  (didn't follow the second paragraph)


Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:24 PM (c1oyg)

85 Oh I know dogs aren't human. But that doesn't change the horrific nature of deliberately tortuting them with starvation and electrocution.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 04:24 PM (tJjm/)

86 ...keep him on a short leash, agreed, but doesn't everyone deserve a shot at redemption?

Huck? Is that you?!

Posted by: jmflynny at November 21, 2010 04:26 PM (JItMh)

87

Jane, i walk around in there and see things that i have never seen before........... 

i spent along funny day there one time that i will tell you about later.......... its about my dad and watermelons............

Posted by: Racefan at November 21, 2010 04:27 PM (qLtps)

88 94 ...keep him on a short leash, agreed, but doesn't everyone deserve a shot at redemption?

Huck? Is that you?!

Posted by: jmflynny at November 21, 2010 08:26 PM (JItMh)

To be fair, Vick served his full sentence.  Huck would have released him after two months.

Posted by: buzzion at November 21, 2010 04:28 PM (oVQFe)

89 And, congratulations to all you who were able to figure out that yes, I was being sarcastic about cheapening the ONT. 

Posted by: Editor at November 21, 2010 04:28 PM (YX6i/)

90 @90: I don't care for cats... But that story is disgusting.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 04:29 PM (tJjm/)

91 Oh I know dogs aren't human.

Damn, Czech, don't say that so loud...my dog might hear you.  She thinks she is.

Posted by: antisocialist at November 21, 2010 04:29 PM (Rwudm)

92 Racefan, I've been going there forever.  I love and am amazed by the place.

People rave about Pike Place Market in Seattle.  Pff.  I've been there, and it doesn't hold a candle to DeKalb Market.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:30 PM (UOM48)

93 Oh I know dogs aren't human. But that doesn't change the horrific nature of deliberately tortuting them with starvation and electrocution.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 08:24 PM (tJjm/)

I love animals.  I have a houseful.  The guy's a scumbag.  I wouldn't piss on his face if his nose was on fire.  But should he be given one chance?   Just one?  If he fucks it up, nail him

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:31 PM (c1oyg)

94

Well, for what it's worth, Vick's troubles and prison time had almost nothing to do with the way he treated his dogs, per se, it had to do with the gambling associated with the illegal dog fighting.

He "lost" quite a bit of money in terms of his canceled contract with the Atlanta Falcons  (millions!), but I don't know if he was impoverished by the time he spent in jail.  and I remember all the stupid rationalizations at the time about the "problems" that "black people" have with dogs.  As if to justify it all.

Also, if anyone recalls, his younger brother was thrown off the team and his scholarship revoked at Virginia Tech for some seamy behavior.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at November 21, 2010 04:33 PM (sJTmU)

95 Michael Vick has learned his lesson and will never harm an animal again. $20 million is not enough to ease the suffering in my tortured soul. But it's a nice start. Bwahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: Michael Vick at November 21, 2010 04:33 PM (CbwqF)

96 I'm actually surprised that Vick didn't use the "culture" defense.

Posted by: dagny at November 21, 2010 04:35 PM (2GOHX)

97 1) The NFL is not "the free market"
2) Football is not "the free market"
3) Part of being a human being is speaking out against things that we think are wrong, whether that wrong is legal or not.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at November 21, 2010 08:31 PM (wOtDN)

Um.. of course it is.  As a free agent, I can sell my services to the highest bidder

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:35 PM (c1oyg)

98
Whoopi Shitheadberg tried to use that defense for him.

'member?

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at November 21, 2010 04:36 PM (/AACO)

99 hell Jane, i dont think any place does.......... i went on a 7000 mile roadtrip with my dad and ex wife in a Peterbuilt and ended up there with 50,000 watermelons............ My dad could have been the King of Morons before we left there.............. it was great..........

Posted by: Racefan at November 21, 2010 04:37 PM (qLtps)

100 I've owned horses, dogs, birds, etc.  D'oh convinced me (a committed "cat hater") to get a kitten when we were newlyweds to keep me company while he travelled.  I was a hard sell, but every single cat we've owned has been sweet, funny, and extremely affectionate.

So as a dog lover-former owner, lighten up on the cat hate.  It's as sickening as Michael Vick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:37 PM (UOM48)

101 So as a dog lover-former owner, lighten up on the cat hate.  It's as sickening as Michael Vick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 08:37 PM (UOM4

Why is it mutually exclusive?  I love both.  My cats are furry, purring loves, parts of my life I'll never do without.   The problem is cat-inexperienced dog owners expect over affection.  Cats are just more subtle

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:41 PM (c1oyg)

102

I think that Michael Vick did shit that is unforgivable. Unforgivable. It's not okay, ever, to do that shit. You cannot say, oh, I fucked up, I won't do that anymore.  There is no excuse for that kind of nasty, cruel, behaviour. Look, for God's sake, everybody, everybody knows that is wrong.

You would have to spend a lifetime trying to redeem yourself for what he did.  And, no, I do not think he should be allowed to play Football.  But so he is....and I think it's probably up to the populace to reject him. But I don't think that that is going to happen. 

Posted by: argie at November 21, 2010 04:43 PM (rCjv8)

103 Also, the contract you sign to be in the NFL includes a morality clause.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at November 21, 2010 08:39 PM (wOtDN)

True, but it's not retroactive.  (C'mon, DPNB, I'm not trying to justify what this scumbag did.  I just don't want to dismiss the possibility that he could have genuinely reformed)

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 04:45 PM (c1oyg)

104 Give that man a job with the TSA!

Posted by: Leah at November 21, 2010 04:48 PM (WvLVu)

105

What Vick did or had done to those dogs is beyond sick & perverted.    That kind of shit comes from a psychologically, fucked up mind.    It doesn't change because you're sent to prison, and have to do community service with an animal rights organization upon release.    Who's to say if he wasn't being watched like a hawk, and in fear of losing whatever he has left in his life he wouldn't do the same shit, again.

You don't change that kind of fucked up, no feeling what-so-ever for a living being shit so easily.   The sob should have been ostrasized from humanity, because he doesn't have a drop of it in him.

Posted by: Steph at November 21, 2010 04:48 PM (DReGA)

106 Just walk around downtown Savannah and see the hood rats with their big ol' pit bulls.  It's a sign of a real man, in this culture.  And they've found little puppies and kittens that have barely survived the pimp boys' "training" their pits. 

Culture of violence, pimping, putting down women, and abandoning little children.

Exhibit A:  Michael Vick

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 04:48 PM (UOM48)

107 99 Oh I know dogs aren't human. Damn, Czech, don't say that so loud...my dog might hear you. She thinks she is. Posted by: antisocialist at November 21, 2010 08:29 PM (Rwudm) I know pet dogs do. That's what makes the Vick's story so especially sickening.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 21, 2010 04:59 PM (tJjm/)

108 A morality clause? How about one of those for Congresscrats?

Posted by: CMU VET at November 21, 2010 05:02 PM (fh7QQ)

109 Our two house cats certainly think they're human.  They talk to us, cuddle, kiss, and alert us when something isn't quite right outside.  Our Marine kid loves them to death as misses them.

Yeah, I miss all the dogs I've ever known and loved.  But our kitties are just as loved.  And way more likely to be caught and tortured to death for shits and giggles.

Bottom line:  any jackass who kills or hurts dogs, cats, hamsters, ferrets, etc., is a fucking lowlife loser.  Probably a TSA agent.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 05:07 PM (UOM48)

110 because torturing dogs is the same as torturing children. <<

Posted by: Kerry's Behemoth Laptop at November 21, 2010 05:14 PM (Z0EF7)

111

Our two house cats certainly think they're human.  They talk to us, cuddle, kiss, and alert us when something isn't quite right outside.  Our Marine kid loves them to death as misses them.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 21, 2010 09:07 PM (UOM4

I don't think that my cats think that they are human. They think that I am a honorary cat. They are amused by my quirks, like I am of thiers.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 05:15 PM (CN+Qv)

112 because torturing dogs is the same as torturing children. <<

No. Not even close. I like dogs, but this is ridiculous.

Posted by: Kerry's Behemoth Laptop at November 21, 2010 09:14 PM (Z0EF7)

If someone gets off on tormenting the helpless, dogs may be just the gateway drug.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2010 05:16 PM (CN+Qv)

113 I HAVE NEEDS YOU COLD HUMAN-LOVING BITCH.

Posted by: Cornelius explaining the box of frogs found in the closet at November 21, 2010 05:18 PM (0IR+C)

114

Also, if anyone recalls, his younger brother was thrown off the team and his scholarship revoked at Virginia Tech for some seamy behavior.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch

That would be Marcus Vick, sleaze f'n ball. He got in trouble for being with a girl underage. As part of his deal to keep him from spending time in jail, he was to have no contact with the girl. He must have gotten real horny a few months later because he got busted being with her again.

I guess if Michael Vick had bet on football instead of dog  fighting, he would have been banned like Pete Rose. Of course Pete Rose was also a degenerate fuck, and I say that as a lifetime Reds fan.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 21, 2010 05:21 PM (oREHE)

115 What was I supposed to do? You're never home.

Posted by: Cornelius explaining the box of frogs found in the closet at November 21, 2010 05:32 PM (0IR+C)

116

Look, my brother was telling me how he liked to shoot squirrels for fun, to blow off steam. And I told him that I really, truly believed that that was wrong.  And when he wanted to come live with me, for some job opportunity, I would not let him do that, because I have cats.   And I had squirrels in the back, that I liked to watch, and enjoy.  And I did not trust that fucker, my beloved brother,  to not be a shit.  

He did not have a good record with animals.  I had seen him be mean to wee pets; and I would not give him access to my house, and trust him with my cats, because I had seen him to be a shit.  I just don't understand how someone could do that, be mean to little creatures, when there is no reason. And I can not see a reason, unless they are predating animals that you have, or you want to eat them for food.

Posted by: argie at November 21, 2010 05:39 PM (rCjv8)

117

Ok, let's make no mistake.  The guy is an absolute scumbag.  I agree completely.  If the guy tried to do that to one of my dogs, I'd kill him myself.  But why is it so inconceivable that he's seen the light?  Isn't that what America is about?  Second chances?  If he even jaywalks, fuck him.  But he just might be sincere, and he deserves that chance.

Posted by: Ombudsman at November 21, 2010 08:02 PM

So start him at entry level salary for a year, which is still $325,000 not the $3.25 million he's getting.  And I would like to see him do a couple of years community service at an animal shelter cleaning up dog shit.

Posted by: Deanna at November 21, 2010 05:59 PM (fVzto)

118
My dog is better than a whole swath of humans.  Many of whom live in Somalia and Marin County.

Posted by: fapo at November 21, 2010 06:10 PM (TcaE8)

119 Fumble dog killer

Posted by: toby928™ at November 21, 2010 06:53 PM (S5YRY)

120

Can someone tell me why Pete Rose is banned from baseball but Michael Vick is about to become this season's NFL MVP?

he'll never bet the mvp for many reasons.

one, the nfl would never allow it.

He's not in the top 25 in passing yards.  He's 27th.

He hasn't played enough games, and finally he won't finish the season. He's gonna get hurt


What?!

I thought that Pete Rose was baseball and gambling in the late 70's and that Vick was dog-fighting / NFL in the early aughts.

I truly, deeply will never care about any individual professional sporting contest.

I just don't have it in me.

Still, access to polite society kind of requires that you pretend to give a shit about the differences between baseball and football, no?

I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure that the reason behind Pete Rose being denied MVP status has little to to do with his "passing yards"






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