1 Now, that's about as useful as a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest.

Having a one-legged man is very useful for ass-kicking contests; at least you know you won't come in last place.

2 Melt the phones. Melt the phones like you're pursuing a hobo who stole your Val-U-Rite shit. Tell your family to melt the phones. Tell your friends to melt the phones. Call that girl/guy/Bill Schulz you banged back in 1981 and have him melt the phones.

3 The only downside I could possibly see in this abomination going down in flames on Sunday, is the whining and wailing from the Dems and the fringe media.

But if it's defeated I'll gladly put up with it.

4 Please make an info-graphic out of this.


----

How many definite no(s) are there?  199?

5 Time for Nancy to whip out the old "Congressman fucking a Cocker Spaniel" photos.

6 That said, I put chances of passage at 95%. Most Democrats lack backbone. I think Stupak's only a "no" at this point because he's looking to stuff it to his party for the shit they gave him. The rest will buckle and sign-on to government-run health care. They're mostly socialist fucks.

7 3:  You call that a downside?  I call that a bonus.

8 LOL @ #2

9 Bill Schulz was only 6 back in 1981.

10

Thanks for keeping up with this, Gabe.  We come for the "accidental" busty lesbian pron, but we stay for the mind-numbing detailed analysis.

I also want to say that I think Boehner in a released statement is wrong in one respect.  Pelosi is willing to bluff here.  She has nothing to lose and I can't imagine another Obama deadline.  The old rules don't apply.  If she schedules a vote, she still may be several votes shy.  Remember Marjorie Margolis-Mezvinsky in 1993.  They did not have her vote and had to hold the vote for an hour to get it.

Also big news, after "reconsidering" the bill at the request of the president, Cao is a definite no.  In the real world, that's a huge rebuke and the president would be diminished by this.  In the bizarro world of our media, it's completely ignored.

Cao's citing abortion, but that's his fig leaf.  The whole thing stinks from the head on down and he doesn't want a part of it anymore.

That means our post-partisan president doesn't even have the veneer of bipartisanship here.  I think that's some cover that the Dems were hoping for.

11 @6: Yeah it will be entertaining to watch, but like the petulant whining of a small child, it gets old really, really quick.

12

9 Bill Schulz was only 6 back in 1981.

That's what (s)he wants you to think.

13 #9,

I was referring to Bill Schulz not as an individual person but as a gender. A third-way, if you will. You would've known this gender as "sequential hermaphrodite" back then.

14 @10: Speaking of bipartisanship, what's hilarious is the only thing that's bipartisan about this bill is the opposition...

15 HopeAndChange/BribesAndExtortion.  Kinda like Yin/Yang.  I'm sensing the balance in the force has been restored.

16 11:  It would be music to my ears (as long as the bourbon holds out).

17 This bill is Obama paying back his labor union SEIU that paid his campaign $60 mil to get him in power.  . The union that is in hospitals now and wants in more hospitals. The more unoin members they get, the more money the union gets. It is deducted from hospital and medical employees paychecks.  Even if the people who do not want to be a member of the union. It is pure greed.  Fat cat union leaders.  Jimmy Hoffa come to mind, anyone?

18 Hell, at least The Sopranos was a TV show.  Now we have the far left radical mafia running things.  The leader of the union was a far left radical before.

19 Steny Hoyer: "We're Gonna Get 216 Votes On Sunday"

20 It's even worse.  SEIU isn't even a proper union.  It's pure "community organizing."  You don't want to be a part of that bunch.

21

19 Steny Hoyer: "We're Gonna Get 216 Votes On Sunday"

Yeah.  Sounds like a threat.

They don't have them.  But, like I said, they will bluff.

22 I wish I shared all your guys' optimism.

23 Please don't declare defeat prematurely.

Yeah, that's Allahpundit's job.

24 Fox News is being punked. 214-217? Bullshit. Someone specifically fed those numbers to Fox to dispirit a huge number of people who are actually contacting congress. Fox does have the highest cable viewership after all. And most of their viewers are against this bill. They want us to stop fighting. It's a classic PsyOps campaign and Fox fell for it. Funny how no other news outlet is reporting those numbers. Don't buy into it. The Dems have an uphill battle.

25 If they pass it with only 216, then every f***er who voted for it will be blamed as "the guy" who made this thing possible.  That's got to have the fence sitters worried... that they'll only vote for it if there are a few others (218-219) to share the spotlight.

26 Bobby Rush should be taken in the streets and tied to a nice bonfire. Disgusting! SO a black liberal congressman from Chicago we are expected to believe is torn on how he'll vote all of a sudden after everybody else is sucking at the teat of big pig government. God, I want Rush to lead with or bring this criminal up. The public has got to about have had it.

27 Nah. The vote has been scheduled, the rules have been suspended, we're toast.  I will gladly take the tongue lashings if I am wrong.

28 This is the kind of corruption that brought Caeser across the Rubicon.

29

http://tinyurl.com/ykmj78u

JOIN I WILL NOT COMPLY FB GROUP

30 If they pass it with only 216, then every f***er who voted for it will be blamed as "the guy" who made this thing possible.


I'm pretty sure they're a lot more worried about being the guy that stopped it, what with being fitted for the cement shoes and all.

31 like the man said....stop bitchin....melt the phones.

32 Adoption Of H.Res. 1190, the rule making in order motions to suspend the rules through Sunday, March 21 (5 minute vote). 232 Yes to 187 No.

Why did 10 more vote for the adoption of H Res. 1190 than voted for Congressman GriffithÂ’s Resolution for the Up or Down vote?

33 Rubicon (rû'bĭkŏn), Lat. Rubico, small stream that flows into the Adriatic and in Roman times marked the boundary between Cisalpine Gaul and ancient Italy. In 49 B.C., after some hesitation, Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon to march against Pompey in defiance of the senate's orders. He thus committed himself to conquer or to perish, and "to cross the Rubicon" now means to take an irrevocable step.

34 Pam@29 I did just that about 10 min ago.

35 I would personally put Tom Perriello in the no column after his statement today.  I just can't see him voting yes after that.

36 You know, I hate to start talking all crazy and stuff, but has anyone in Washington figured out that the people who are really, REALLY angry are the ones that have the g*ns?

I'm thinking... no.

People are angry, and angry people do crazy things.

37 Lincoln Davis (D-Tn) will rue the day he ever voted for this thing if he votes yes. He got an earful today about voting yes on the slaughter thing today and about not making a statement yet. He better do something tomorrow. I am so tired of calling but I am not giving up - call their local offices.

38 Am I the only one that gets kinda scared and nervous when calling my congress-critter?

39 I put my phone in the microwave, and it made some neato sparks and stuff while it was melting - and it really stunk the kitchen up.

Not as much fun as small animals though.

40 39... Its an expression of speech!

41 38 - I do but only because I am afraid I will say something when I am so pissed off that will cause them to send the feds to my house. I have to really restrain myself - but don't be afraid of them - they are all fking limp ass jerks.

42 Thanks Alaska, good to see so many people on that FB wall, just since yesterday!

43 Oh... an expression of speech...

Never-mind then.


_{(Anyone know where I can get another hello kitty phone, cheap?})

44 I know this may sound silly, but would the GOP be willing to let some dems run uncontested in exchange for a "no" vote?

45 Thought the same thing.....

46 Post 37 is right.  Keep calling people.

47 "44 I know this may sound silly, but would the GOP be willing to let some dems run uncontested in exchange for a "no" vote?

Posted by: Smapty at March 19, 2010 02:22 AM (bAySe)"

So then the republicans are taking away the will of the people just like the dems.  And the dems will corrupt it in some way anyway.  When you are dishonorable you are dishonorable.

48 Posted by: The Highland Pipes at March 19, 2010 02:18 AM (2hpnI)

you should ask on the geeky blogs like gizmodo and such.

49 "38 Am I the only one that gets kinda scared and nervous when calling my congress-critter?

Posted by: Smapty at March 19, 2010 02:08 AM (bAySe)"

You don't get through to the congress person you get the pissed off staff member who is tired of answering the phone.  Three times I have said "I want to document this call, may I have your name please".   they always tell you that it is none of your business.  But, once you have said that and ask for it again, they back down and listen to you and are much nicer.  But, they are not interested in my name, none of them.  The last call I made I said are you even documenting these calls and she said, honestly, no cause he will vote the way he wants to vote and she hung up.

50

I believe at one point Obama tried to run against Bobby Rush back in Chicago.  Bobby Rush mopped the floor with Obama.

He's just holding out for more bribes.  It's the Chicago Way!

51

Bobby Rush?  F'n Bobby Rush?  Well yeah I knew that SOB is still a congressman but really, Bobby Rush?  Worse than Sheila Jackson Lee.  She's at least just delusional, not rabid.  Sheesh.  Where is the Slide of Civilization guy?  Wheeeeeee.

 

52 Batchelor interviewed a congressman tonight.  The congressman gave the impression that they were being held hostage (figuratively) and asked not to leave the area.  He said "they don't want us to go anywhere" or to go home.   I mean in this day and age, when travel is quick, why shouldn't they go home and think?

53

I've been calling Bill Foster's office (IL-14).  That's Denny Hastert's old seat.  If Hastert hadn't taken the side of democrat William "cold cash" Jefferson (Louisiana) in that FBI sting, that seat would still be republican.  Jerk.

 

Anyway, Foster's office keeps giving me the brush off.  Won't commit, he wants to read the bill (don't we all), the usual.

54 If you continue to decide to turn the Founders law on its head I don't care how you do it. It is an attack on foundational law and releases me from all aspects of it. Be well in your greed, pride, and corruption. The Lord that I swear to pays attention.

(a letter/fax to our Reps in DC)

55 I always wondered why he left Boston or didn't go to New York.  He had established roots in both places.  But there weren't any roots in Chicago.  Ostensibly, he knew no one whereas he must have known people in Boston from LS and in New York from undergrad.  Most people would have gone to one of those two cities, where you know people, where you can make connections, where you can network with people vouching for you.  Or you go home to where you grew up and practice there.  This has always puzzled me that he didn't do what most logical people would have done.  And he was lucky, he had choices.

56 After a long day of getting mad about this I just had a lovely thought - what if they go to vote and some of the dems switch sides at the last minute and vote no - and there was a fight on the floor like those Korean fights - OMG I would love to see that! I can just see Nancy coming off the rails and down from her throne hammering some guy over the head just as they say it does not pass. God I would love that!!!!

57 Today Steve Levy, the Suffolk County New York Supervisor said he was going to announce that he is running for Governor. 

Late in the day one of my friends called to tell me that rumor is he is jumping party to Republican. 

My heart sank.  Essentially now they want to have both their hand picked candidates under both letters.  So, in NY they win either way.  That is downright devious.

I hope the NY Republicans pick a damn good challenger for the primary. 

58 Curious - what makes you think he didn't know anyone in Chicago? there were plenty of characters in Chicago that he could have met elsewhere and the community organizing he was into was rampant in Chicago - Alinsky? Ayers? he met Ayers somewhere else before he moved to Chicago I would bet on it - anyway I am too tired to dig out all that crap but he went there on a mission and was probably invited to Chicago a long time before he actually arrived on the scene.

59 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg

Too Late to Apologize: A Declaration

60 "After a long day of getting mad about this I just had a lovely thought - what if they go to vote and some of the dems switch sides at the last minute and vote no - and there was a fight on the floor like those Korean fights - OMG I would love to see that!"

Slaps head.

I had a lovely thought too. I was walking down the street and it started raining 19-year old women who'd just broken up with their boyfriends, but are in a good mood because their first modelling contracts came through.

61 Red Eye!

62

Wasn't it the aristocrats that thought they could control the french revolution? How did that turn out?

63 "62

Wasn't it the aristocrats that thought they could control the french revolution? How did that turn out?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 03:00 AM (dQdrY)"

Didn't they lose their minds?

64 Call up and say you will be donating to their opposition if they vote for it,

65 60 - I like mine so much better.

66 O/T:  yeah, what up with that?  How do you cheat on Sandra Bullock for her?

67 O/T:  My guy friends are saying it is worth staying up to watch Red Eye just to watch the blond

68 Or better yet, call up a bunch of local business leaders in their district and get them to put pressure on the congress-critter.

69 Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 03:02 AM (p302b)

Most guys who cheat do so with someone less attractive than who they are with.

70

Didn't they lose their minds?

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 03:01 AM (p302b)

I do believe a whole bunch did lose their heads.

71 Here is how specific "organizing for America" is.  My lib/dem friends all got emails tonight listing the name of their representative and urging them to call the rep and let them know "who they are fighting for".  Each friend got the name of their individual rep but the same letter.   This is the 8th email they received this week.  Some days there were two.

When bush ran people were saying that he really utilized the internet to get on the ground reports from real people.  These guys make the Bush team look like a bunch of amateurs.

72 a letter/fax to our Reps in DC)
Posted by: pam


Here's mine:

Representative,

Vote NO on this health care takeover or there will be CIVIL UNREST like you have never seen.

Whatever you stand to gain from anyone in D.C. for voting Yes, it wonÂ’t be worth it. Not for you, not for you kids, not for your grandkids.

Thank you.

Joan Maltese
A Concerned Citizen
San Diego, CA

73 Another possible "yes" to "undecided" is Bobby Rush, but this is so transparently a request for a bribe, that I'm not moving him. I know I said I'd go by their public statements, but his "I'm still thinking about it" claim is inherently unbelievable. We can still hope - Bobby Rush is the one guy who kicked Barack Obama's ass in an election - I doubt he has much love for the half-white, Ivy League, carpetbagger who tried to steal his Congressional seat. Go Bobby, Go!!!!

74 When the Whip Comes Down!

75 I went to a "town hall" for my rep. Before his appearance, they played a 10-minute propaganda video. Then, to make sure that nobody missed it, they played it again.

Half the people in the auditorium were wearing color-coordinated "XXXXX, local YYYY" shirts. They got 80% of the questions, which were all dumbass "what color skittles will my unicorn deposit on my doorstep?"

The rep's replies to the questions ranged from "what color do you want them to be? I'm sure they're in there." to "mmmmfpppffg mffmfng nnnmflg wrngfrlmph" -- when asked how anyone intends to pay for things.

I left the meeting with several thoughts in mind:
1. My rep cares not a whit about me.
2. My rep thinks I'm stupid.
3. Unions have too much influence with reps.
4. My rep has no integrity, whatsoever.
5. If his constituents don't suit him, the rep has no hesitation to screen them out and select other constituents.
6. While I haven't yet decided to lynch the son-of-a-bitch, anyone who does will get a free pass if I'm selected for jury duty.

76 Thanks for this, Gabe. I didn't believe that Fox count for a moment.

I still don't believe this will pass. If Obama's having to work on Joe Cao (whom I am going to be giving a piece of my mind later today) then they really are having trouble putting the votes together.

It's anyone's guess as to whether Lynch will really vote no when it comes down to it, but the fact he's even floating it should be far more worrying to the Dems than defections by guys like Gordon should be for us.

A key component of this whole fucking thing is the most massive psy-ops operation the Democrats have ever attempted. They really want us to believe this is inevitable and probably floated that 214-217 count to Fox, which is all too eager to report Doom, Defeat, Death and Despair on every subject imaginable. The Democrats are like the old Soviet Union: projecting an aura of invincibility, but in reality far more fragile than anyone knows.

77 Well fuck me with a rubber truncheon while the Pope watches, Childers has flipped. He has been getting a lot of heat in the MS press about his stance; his job must have become more valuable than worrying about Pelousy shoving her broomstick through his heart without KY jelly. Hell, I might even quit bad mouthing him for a couple of months.
 
It ain't over yet folks.

78 Note to GOP:


Tommorrow's talking point == your calls are working.

79

Phone, fax, email, mail.  Go to your reps local office - it counts big time.  Keep pushing family & friends to do the same.

Keep the pressure up.  We are winning.

80 Air Jordan is channelling Joe Biden.

81 Do you guys think my rep, Elija Cummings, is persuadable?

82 Keep the pressure up. We are winning. Call Speaker Pelosi's office. If they are going to vote on the weekend, tell them they need to be available to take phone calls on the weekend.

83 OT: Drill Baby, Drill  сверлите тренировку ребенка

http://tinyurl.com/yerqmsl

84

"If they are going to vote on the weekend, tell them they need to be available to take phone calls on the weekend."

Excellent point!

85 сверлите тренировку ребенка I drink your milkshake, Tovaritch.

86 Wont Vote For A Bill That Kills Babies

Fascinating;  these 'pro-life' Democrats will vote against the bill if it pays for abortion BUT if the abortion clause is removed they will vote for the bill which is designed to deny health care to the sick and the elderly.

So 'pro-life' only applies to life in the womb however it will be the  sick and the elderly whose lives will receive a FREE  government-panel death sentence?

Universal Health Care means serving Social Justice by killing off the sick and the elderly.

In other words Universal Health Care means Hell on Earth.

87 I can't call any of my local federal or state representatives. Or ask my family to do so. Maybe McMahon here in Brooklyn? Is there anyway to monitor how many people join that FB group?

88 Fox is showing all the bribes and who is getting them now.

89 This is all just so horrible and nerve-wracking I can't stand it.  If it doesn't pass, they'll try again and again to shove it through by bits.  If it passes it will be a nightmare of chopping out the cancer bit by bit.
I'm moving to fucking Tahiti.

90 85

Uh, yeah, what part of we're fucked don't you get?

91 55 He knew Frank Marshall Davis who put him in touch with Thomas Ayers. He was plugged into the Chicago machine from birth. I still think Davis is his real father, because he has been there throughout Obama or Soteoro's life. He has euphemistically been called a mentor. Look at the poem Pop.

Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I've got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me ...

 ... as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Most disturbingly, the poem is describing a boundary violation on several levels, mental and sexual. I'm pretty sure Davis molested Obama when he smoked out his grandfather back in Hawaii. Obama wrote his grandfather used to take him into bars and pool halls where he hung out with hookers.

Later on at Occidental, Obama had a gay Pakistani sugar daddy. He went to Pakistan as a young adult on a mysterious passport. There was Al-Mansour and William Ayers. Obama was always looked after by older men who had a sexual interest in him, more often than not.

All his life, he has been passed around like a whore and told what to think. He has no sense of self. Obama never wanted to make friends, take risks and go have a normal life. He wanted to go where he was told to go, where it would be easy for him, where he would be comfortable around people just like the flaming commies he grew up among. That's  why he went to Chicago, not Boston or New York. He always wanted to be in  politics, and those cities are all run by rackets. He had an in in Chicago.

Oh, also Davis wrote Pop. "Watermelon seed" is too cynical to have come from a child and someone of Obama's generation. That was BLT gibberish. The excuses of a pedophile inflicting a sentimental education onto a child.

92 Universal Health Care means serving Social Justice by killing off the sick and the elderly.

They figured life is expensive anyway, so just give away abortions and save society the cost of caring for these undesirables to begin with.

93 F&F is really blasting them on this scam today. I wonder if it is because they have Dana Perino and Greta is not there.

If having Dana makes them move back closer to the center I am all for having her on there permanently. 

94 Well I feel much better now, Joe Scarborough just told all us conservatives to relax because everything will be just fine. You crazy partisans are always screaming that every bill the opposition passes will destroy the country. If we just fine tune and tweak it here and there it will be fine. Is there any way to make him stop calling himself a conservative?

I really have to stop watching that prick first thing in the morning.

95 Intrade is still holfdng at 80$ chance to pass ObamaCare

96 55 Read the American Thinker piece What I Learned from Obama's Pop by Jack Cashill. To give you an idea, the last two bullet points are interesting.

Contrary to rumor, Obama could have traveled to Pakistan on an American passport in 1981. Whether he did or not is another question. It was not until April 2008 at a San Francisco fundraiser that Obama casually let it be known that he had traveled to Pakistan at all. Curiously, he had not mentioned this trip in either of his two books or in any prior public discussion of Pakistan.Raising suspicions further was the fact that two weeks before the Pakistan admission, someone had improperly accessed Obama's passport on three occasions. That someone worked for John Brennan at Analysis Corp., a company with fewer than a hundred employees. A former CIA operative then advising Obama, Brennan is now Deputy National Security Adviser.

97 Oh my God, Dana Perrino is on FCN and she's SO lovely!

98 Bobby Rush is just holding out for a bribe. A lot of these undecideds are. They are waiting to see who gets what before putting out. That doesn't mean it's over. Not by a long shot.

99

Why is no one talking about the IRS just keeping refunds to pay for Zero Care?  I know one of the first editions of this wealth grab gives Uncle Sam the power to draw from your bank acct, but this will be easier for Timmeh!  Time to change your withholding to "9" at HR (if you still have a job).

http://tinyurl.com/yjz5ggx

 

100 @ RushBabe

Sarah Palin was talking about it on Glen Beck. The topic at hand was militias and civil insurrection. For the record, Sarah Palin urged against violence.

101

Gabe..you're doing yeoman's work. THANK YOU!!

...your mention on Rush was well-deserved

One thing...Steve Driehaus in the OH 1st is as dishonest as they can possibly come. He is hiding behind the abortion language for his yet undeclared stance for the moment....most probably with Pelosi's consent...to keep the pressure off him in his heavily Catholic district. He is way behind in the polls and is looking at the upcoming election

I know people that know him very well...and he is not the big pro-lifer that he makes himself out to be.

If it comes down to where his vote is needed to pass this thing...he will definitely jump on board

102 Adoption Of H.Res. 1190, the rule making in order motions to suspend the rules through Sunday, March 21 (5 minute vote). 232 Yes to 187 No.

Why did 10 more vote for the adoption of H Res. 1190 than voted for Congressman GriffithÂ’s Resolution for the Up or Down vote?

This was a vote to table Cantor's resolution not the rule that the bill will be decided under.

Here is the text of the resolution:

H. RES. __

RESOLUTION

Raising a question of the privileges of the House.

Whereas at least three members of the House Democratic Leadership have endorsed a procedural tactic for the sole purpose of avoiding an up-or-down vote, by the yeas and nays, on the Senate-passed health care bill;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 Representative James Clyburn, the House Majority Whip, stated, “We will deem passed the Senate bill…”;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 16, The Washington Post reported, “After laying the groundwork for a decisive vote this week on the Senate’s health-care bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested Monday that she might attempt to pass the measure without having members vote on it. Instead, Pelosi (D–Calif.) would rely on a procedural sleight of hand…”;

Whereas in the same Washington Post article, the Speaker declared, “…I like it because people don’t have to vote on the Senate bill.”;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 16, McClatchy Newspapers reported Representative John Larson, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, stated, “Many of our members would prefer not to have voted for the Senate bill.”;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 9, U.S. News and World Report reported, “Pelosi gaffed, telling the local elected officials assembled ‘that Congress [has] to pass the bill so you can find out what’s in it, away from the fog of controversy.’”;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 16, The Washington Post editorialized, “…what is intended as a final sprint threatens to turn into something unseemly and, more important, contrary to Democrats’ promises of transparency and time for deliberation. …t strikes us as a dodgy way to reform the health-care system. Democrats who vote for the package will be tagged with supporting the Senate bill in any event.”;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 16, the Cincinnati Enquirer editorialized, “This disgusting process, which Democrats brazenly wish to bring to conclusion this week, is being done with little regard for the opinions of a clear majority of Americans who, while they may believe health care reform is necessary, think this particular approach will take our nation down the wrong economic path.”;

Whereas bipartisan members of the House and Senate have expressed their opposition to using the Slaughter Solution;

Whereas on Wednesday, March 10, Representative Joe Donnelly released the following statement, “The process over the past few months has been frustrating, including the cutting of unacceptable special deals to assure a few senators’ votes.”;

Whereas Representative Jason Altmire of Pennsylvania has characterized the exploitation of the Slaughter Solution by Democratic Leadership as “wrong” and unpopular among his constituents;

Whereas on Friday, March 12, POLITICO reported on a memo sent from Representative Chris Van Hollen, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, to freshman and sophomore House Democrats that stated, “At this point, we have to just rip the band-aid off… Things like reconciliation and what the rules committee does is INSIDE BASEBALL.”;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 16, Roll Call reported, “Hoyer argued that the American public isn’t interested in the process lawmakers use for approving reforms…”;

Whereas on Tuesday, March 16, Representative James Clyburn told Fox News, “Controversy doesn’t bother me at all.”;

Whereas the Democratic leadership of the House has conducted a calculated and coordinated attempt to willfully deceive the American people by embracing the “Slaughter Solution”;

Whereas resorting to the “Slaughter Solution” in this circumstance, is being done to intentionally hide from the American people a future vote that Members of Congress may take on the Senate-passed health care legislation;

Whereas the deceptive behavior demonstrated by the Democratic Leadership has brought discredit upon the House of Representatives; and

Whereas the Democratic leadership has willfully abused its power to chart a legislative course for the Senate health care bill that is deliberately calculated to obfuscate what the House will vote on, in an illegitimate effort to confuse the public and thereby fraudulently insulate certain Representatives from accountability for their conduct of their offices:

Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House disapproves of the malfeasant manner in which the Democratic Leadership has thereby discharged the duties of their offices.

I would imagine that democrats did not want to go on record as calling Pelosi's actions malfeasant.

103

It's Friday.  It's Lent.  Duck out of lunch and hit a noontime service somewhere and pray like you've never prayed before.  Stations of the Cross grant a plenary indulgence.  I'd even take a "yes" to "no" instead.

104

Morons:

I WILL BE IN DC tonight around 10 PM.

My cell phone is 401-578-0017.

Call me at your convenience if you feel like meeting me and my very lovely and talented +1.

That is all.

105 Truman Still making plans. If they pull together, I will be in DC early Sat AM.

106
Posted by: Andy Rand

STFU, dunce

107 National Review Online has Charlie Wilson as caving on the abortion question: http://tiny.cc/oNGWo Excerpt: "As a pro-life Catholic," he said, "I think the language in the Senate bill clearly ensures that there will be no federal funding of abortion." He went on to say "I'm taking my time to review" the reconciliation language, but he ended his brief remarks by again stating: "I'm confident that the Senate language upholds my pro-life values." Just adds insult to injury.

108
3 Massholes in a row at AoS?

I think that's like crossing the streams, or something.

109 The Catholic Health Association endorsement of the Senate Bill is cover for prolife House members.  The Senate bill doesn't prohibit federal funding of abortion.  The Catholic Health Association actually admits in their letter to House members that the Senate language still has to be fixed.

The CHA is actually expecting a prochoice Senate and a prochoice White House to correct the Senate language.  This is the "trust me" line.  It won't work.  The prochoice Senators will block all attempts to prohibit federal funding of abortion.

The press will use the CHA against the Catholic Bishops.  The CHA is just a lobby like the teachers association.  The Catholic Church does not fund it in any way.

This is a big problem for the Stupak 12.

Apparently the CHA board was divided on the letter to House members.

110 Sarah Palin was talking about it on Glen Beck. The topic at hand was militias and civil insurrection. For the record, Sarah Palin urged against violence.

Sarah Palin is an unprincipled scrunt. She supports McCain and by extension his BFF L. Graham. She is less than dead to me.

111 We'll this sucks.

112 You know - I wonder if any of the House members are fans of Survivor.....Stupak must be. Then they'd learn the importance of alliances....that even if a few of them (undecided or nos) band together....they could blindside the leader.....just a hope and a prayer.... Russell/Boston Rob 2010

113 oops - 2012

114 This calls for something really stupid and futile to be done on somebody's. Part. Whose with me?

115
This calls for something really stupid and futile to be done on somebody's. Part. Whose with me?

Harumph!

116
This thread is deader than Corey Feldman.

117 I just checked the tire pressure in the 470, and boy do I feel green!

118
btw, Jeff Goldblum died today

119

The buyoffs have begun...

1. Baird: $5 million for green jobs (Jan 6th)

2. Boccieri: $ 16.625 for an airport (Mar 15th)

3. Kosmas: $2 million pending airport grant (Mar 8th), $60 thousand for fire dept (Mar 7th)

4. Scott Murphy: $800 thousand for airport (Mar 11th), $4.7 million water system grant (Mar 17th)

5. Nye: DOD reinstates Military Spouse Education Program for his district (Mar 11th)

6. Berry: $1.5 Million joint grant for fire dept (Jan 29th)

7. Carney: $130 million for broadband (Feb 23rd)

8. Costello: This guy has received so many different grants since Mar 1st I don't want to type them all out

9. Donnelly: $25 million for broadband (Feb 18th)

10. Driehaus: $700 thousand for transportation (Feb 12th), $8 million education (Feb 26th)

11. Lipinski: $133 million for transportation (Mar 5th)

12. Stupak: $50 thousand smll business grant (Mar 11th), $265 thousand for fire dept (Mar 11th), $51 thousand for public safety ( Mar 9th), 3 permanent Social Security judges (Mar 8th)

120 F&F discussing the finer points of American Idol now....groan

121 @ Barbarian

"Scrunt" is a stupid and cowardly word.You're a child. Nobody cares who is dead to you, since you're such a weak example of living.

122
speaking of living...

Jeff Goldblum, he isn't.

123 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 19, 2010 08:48 AM (mHQ7T)

This from a drooling imbecile that thinks this blog is a social networking site. Who's the child?

124
Emailed Cao.  Used to live there-ish.  Who's next? Altmire?

125  HopeAndChange/BribesAndExtortion.  Kinda like Yin/Yang.  I'm sensing the balance in the force has been restored.
That's going to be a great campaign commercial: watching Hopenchange morph into Bribesnextortion     Am I the only one that gets kinda scared and nervous when calling my congress-critter?
Screw them, they work for you and don't let them forget it.    Why did Obama go to Chicago? Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 02:49 AM (p302b)

He left Occidental for Columbia because Frank Marshall Davis had put him together with Henry Ayres who was doing something for Columbia at the time. Henry essentially brought Obama back with him. Secondly, Obama has long said that his favorite book is "Native Son" by Richard Wright. I have a masters in english and had never heard of it until my son was forced to read it in high school. It is the story of a poor black boy who is not at all sympathetic. He is a public masterbator, a murderer, a rapist, a blackmailer, an idiot and a thief. The boy, Bigger, runs into a couple of Communists (in the 30s) who try to help him but he kills one of them. Then the other comes to his aid after he is arrested and gets him a communist lawyer. The communist (real communists not these marxist/socialist communist-lites) lawyer spends 80 pages explaining why the whites and capitalism have made Bigger the evil guy that he is why Bigger is innocent of any evil that he does--it's the system that must be found guilty and changed. All this takes place in Chicago. Obama was in love with this story and wanted to be the communist lawyer for Bigger.

He was fulfilling a phantasy. It would be like plopping me down at Pemberly into the waiting arms of Fitzwilliam Darcy.

Read the sparknotes or summary  of "Native Son", it tells you where Obama's head is.

126 127

You are. Now you're petulant and throwing a tantrum. Go change your nappy.

127 118 This calls for something really stupid and futile to be done on somebody's. Part. Whose with me?

I'll probably be there...

128 Posted by: Hey Gabe at March 19, 2010 08:48 AM (UNW+D)

I just don't know if phone calls, faxes, e-mails, whatever can compete with all these bribes.  Seriously, I could call/fax/e-mail around the clock and how can that compete with the bullshit that is going on behind closed doors?  They've been inundated with people calling/faxing/e-mailing for over a year and we're still at the point where ever. single. vote. is being analyzed over and over again.....

129 The funny thing is, these bribes are going to be used to beat these imbeciles over the head with in the next election. They will be a potent weapon.

130
Here in Colorado - Michael Bennet (D-hard left socialist) is already running ads attempting to prove he's a "moderate".

This must be countered.  Voters must be reminded that democrats who run as moderates are liars.  Democrats always fool voters to get in, but once in, they are a reliable vote for the left-wing.

Andrew Romanof(D) is already claiming he will fight the party insiders.  BULLSHIT.  Andrew will be a reliable vote for the left.

Voters must wake up to this trickery.  Republicans must point it out at every turn.
Flush the blue dogs, flush the phony democrats who promise moderation.  They are all liars.

131 I just don't know if phone calls, faxes, e-mails, whatever can compete with all these bribes.  Seriously, I could call/fax/e-mail around the clock and how can that compete with the bullshit that is going on behind closed doors?  They've been inundated with people calling/faxing/e-mailing for over a year and we're still at the point where ever. single. vote. is being analyzed over and over again.....

I tend to agree.
If the GOP had any organizing capacity whatsoever we/they would be beating the crap out of the businesses/corporations that fund these a-holes.

132 He is a public masturbator, a murderer, a rapist, a blackmailer, an idiot and a thief.

Sounds like Frank Marshall Davis and any number of Obama's friends since reaching adulthood. Rumor has it he has a body count that's on track with the Clintons. He probably wanted to be Bigger.

I just watched The Lady From Shanghai the other day. I think that's how this plays out in the end. Sharks occasionally eat one another.

133
This health care sham is just a huge tax increase - filled with goodies and bribes and government run student loans.

134 Hey, how you morons doing in Hawaii after that earthquake?

135 Someone cited "the Catholic Health Organization".   That organization has already been exposed in many places.  In this case the word "catholic" does not have anything to do with the Catholic Church but rather it means "universal".  It is an organization composed of non catholic progressives.   No Catholic representative will be able to "hide behind it" since the Bishops of the Catholic Church have made their stance on abortion widely known.

136 The MSDNC viewing was not as bad this am..now however the cheerleaders have come out .....

137
On his Facebook page, Andrew Bernstein makes a pledge against ObamaCare:"If the government takes over health care, I will refuse to buy their package, refuse to pay the fine imposed, and make them arrest me. I will broadcast my refusal to cave to socialism on my website, on Facebook, to my students, in my lectures, and on the radio. I will fight this in the courts--or will the DC Fascists suspend the right to trial by jury? I suspect--and hope--that millions of Americans will do the same."

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I'm in.

138 Barbarian, seriously fuck off. There's no "we" here. Not when everything you say is meant to discourage Republicans. Poseur, liar and chickenshit phony.

139
Emailed Altmire.  This might be useless, but is cathartic.  Polite but very firm and clear.  Will donate and ask everyone to donate to his opponent.

140 111 The pro-lifers who are saying that the senate bill has "language" they can live with have been convinced by the "scrunts" that the govt isn't paying for abortions, the govt money is only buying insurance policies that are paying for abortions and if you don't like that, you can buy an insurance policy that doesn't cover it. It's a lie.

141 142 Barbarian, seriously fuck off. There's no "we" here. Not when everything you say is meant to discourage Republicans. Poseur, liar and chickenshit phony.

Nice.

142 Barbarian and Tatoo. Remember who the enemy is. Are either of you a corrupt Marxist? No. Then settle down

143 Beck is saying you need to get your state to "move like Idaho and Virginia".

144 Nice.

You're not so tough.

145 On on of the talk shows I heard a constituent of Altmeier call in.  She was extremely frustrated.  She claimed that altemeier had polled the district and the district was overwhelmingly against the health bill, according to HIS POLLS.   She felt that was all he needed to make his no vote and she was wondering   why there was any hesitation on his part at all.  Maybe she called Rush.  At any rate, she is right.  If he polled his district and they said NO loudly then how the heck could he be an the fence at all?    I mean if they vote him out, which this caller said was quite likely if he ignored his own polls then what did he accomplish?

146 Tattoo, Barbarian

Now now children, here's some pudding...

147 If this piece of shit passes, the absolute worst thing is going to be having to listen to all my lefty friends congratulate themselves about how great it is. And in ten years, I'm going to have to listen to their bitching about how awful "the system" is. Hey, asshole, it's YOUR system.

148 anyone listening to Beck?

149 @152 Its getting harder listening to Beck... he's very "preachy"

Listening now, and he's pulling the God card...

150

I mean if they vote him out, which this caller said was quite likely if he ignored his own polls then what did he accomplish?

Why, he has struck his blow for the socialist collective. Just like the rest of those sorry cockholsters.

151 If the Dems pass this they will essentially become the insurance companies.So all the complaints about health care will henceforth be directed at them.This will coincide with the whiniest most selfish generation in American history, the boomers,reaching the age where health care becomes a persons primary focus.
This could easily lead to the repeal of this monstrosity but also the destruction of the Democrat party.

152 I am seriously beginning to think that there is a screen test to be an administration spokesperson.   No one looks at your intelligence just if you can tell a lie as if it is the absolute truth.  (had to turn off MSNBC when the chick said the president was staying in DC for the celebration when the bill passes)  Balance that against Beck saying "the communists will be marching on Washington this weekend, the latinos and the tea party people."  Beck sounds as though he is seriously concerned that they will all be there together.

153 Oh NO! Not God.

154 Dick Morris' Latest Email Just in:

From a top level source in the House comes the news that the Democrats are still short of the 216 votes they need to pass Obamacare.  They have decided, however, to go for broke on Sunday and attempt to pass it whether or not they have enough support.  They feel that only by forcing a vote can the force members off the fence.  They hope that by employing all means at their disposal, they can round up enough votes for passage.  But, if they don't have the votes, they will allow the measure to be defeated.  One source called it a "suicide run."

155 "153 @152 Its getting harder listening to Beck... he's very "preachy"

Listening now, and he's pulling the God card...

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 09:21 AM (V8B//)"

Yeah, those pesky founders used to pull the same card, all day, every day.

He's asking people to pray that there is no violence this weekend in DC.

156 "158 Dick Morris' Latest Email Just in:

From a top level source in the House comes the news that the Democrats are still short of the 216 votes they need to pass Obamacare.  They have decided, however, to go for broke on Sunday and attempt to pass it whether or not they have enough support.  They feel that only by forcing a vote can the force members off the fence.  They hope that by employing all means at their disposal, they can round up enough votes for passage.  But, if they don't have the votes, they will allow the measure to be defeated.  One source called it a "suicide run."

Posted by: ParisParamus at March 19, 2010 09:26 AM (TFs5o)"

Morris was a clintonite.  Don't believe him.  Everyone else is saying "she won't vote unless she has the votes". 

157

 I mean if they vote him out, which this caller said was quite likely if he ignored his own polls then what did he accomplish?

Doing his part to establish to the collectivist utopia

 

158 Beck is not my preacher. Nor is he the bearing on my moral compass.

159 On his Facebook page, Andrew Bernstein makes a pledge against ObamaCare:"If the government takes over health care, I will refuse to buy their package, refuse to pay the fine imposed, and make them arrest me. I will broadcast my refusal to cave to socialism on my website, on Facebook, to my students, in my lectures, and on the radio. I will fight this in the courts--or will the DC Fascists suspend the right to trial by jury? I suspect--and hope--that millions of Americans will do the same."

I may just take it a step or two further

160 I've got no problem with him pulling the God card... its just that i think all of this is going to his head. It just turns me off, so I stick to Rush, who doesn't come off "plastic" with his personal relationship with God.

161 Beck isn't a preacher and he has never said he was.  He sticks with his "i'm just a person like you" stance. 

Mike Pence up next on Beck. 

162 Jake Tapper interviewed Biden. The smartest VP in the world bragged that they were going to "control the insurance companies" and then stated that nothing would change.

163

Posted by: Hey Gabe at March 19, 2010 08:48 AM

Got a linky?

164 Hillary and Condi Rice will be the presidential nominees in '08. Bank on it.

165

We need to keep our eyes on the ball and ignore everything else. The way I see it is this whole ballgame boils down to 16 congressmen. Any other announcement by a politician not in one of these two groups is irrelevant noise. The two groups are as follows:

7 Previous no votes that are now undecided: Altmire, Baird, Boccieri, Kosmas, Scott Murphy, Nye, Tanner

9 Previous yes votes that are now possible yes votes: Arcuri, Berry, Carney, Costello, Donnelly, Driehaus, Lipinski, Lynch, Stupak.

In order to defeat this we need 11 out of these 16 to vote no. Or put another way, if all previous noes remain that way we need 4 of the potential yes to noes to flip.

166

I mean if they vote him out, which this caller said was quite likely if he ignored his own polls then what did he accomplish?

What, you think these people have to go become plumbers when they get voted out of office?

167

Ugh, I can't get Beck in the DC metro. I think they have him scrambled.

I'm really attached to the "and free exercise thereof" line of the constitution.

 God doesn't offend me nearly as much as I offend Him.

168 Dagny

169 Posted by: Entropy at March 19, 2010 09:38 AM (IsLT6)

my plumber and my doctor know each other.  my plumber makes more than my doctor, that's the running joke among our friends.  The plumber always says "you can avoid going to the doctor but when you need the plumber, you need the plumber"

170 Where are you getting that Donnelly in Va is wavering to maybe?

171 Pence is real serious today.  "a mountain range of earmarks"  to be put on future bills for years to come.

Beck said that "when this unravels it is going to make Watergate look like a picnic"

172 Pence just mentioned the fact that they held back the water from CA until now when they wanted the yes vote.

173 #174 If you are referring to my previous post I'm sorry for the typo. It should have read Yes to no, not yes to yes. Those lists are simply comprised of Reps that have indicated they either will or might flip their previous votes.

174 "Thanks to David, Jack, Myryea, Lawrence, Paul, enoxo, Josh and Nick. The categories and names are below the fold:"

and Gabe who has become the "go to source" for all the conservative commentators on the radio.

175

He's asking people to pray that there is no violence this weekend in DC.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 09:26 AM (p302b)

Beck's the biggest drama queen on the air.

176
Please don't declare defeat prematurely. There was some wailing and gnashing of teeth earlier today, but no one is ready to call it quits. Pelosi doesn't have it yet. We'd know if she did.

I think, you're whistling past the graveyard.

Pelosi won't allow a vote, unless she has the votes.

177 Byron York agrees with Dick Morris to an extent. They are fully in this. Where I think Morris is wrong is his belief the Democrats will be tainted by this healthcare bill, if it passes. That's patent nonsense. It must be killed.

But here is Byron York:

You have to look at the issue from three different Democratic perspectives: the House of Representatives, the White House and the Senate.

"In the House, the view of [California Rep. Henry] Waxman and [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi is that we've waited two generations to get health care passed, and the 20 or 40 members of Congress who are going to lose their seats as a result are transitional players at best," he said. "This is something the party has wanted since Franklin Roosevelt." In this view, losses are just the price of doing something great and historic. (The strategist also noted that it's easy for Waxman and Pelosi to say that, since they come from safely liberal districts.)

"At the White House, the picture is slightly different," he continued. "Their view is, 'We're all in on this, totally committed, and we don't have to run for re-election next year. There will never be a better time to do it than now.'"

"And in the Senate, they look at the most vulnerable Democrats -- like [Christopher] Dodd and [Majority Leader Harry] Reid -- and say those vulnerabilities will probably not change whether health care reform passes or fails. So in that view, if they pass reform, Democrats will lose the same number of seats they were going to lose before."

All those scenarios have a certain logic (even if the Senate calculation undercounts the number of potentially vulnerable Democrats). But each scenario is premised on passing an unpopular bill that hurts the party. Even if there's a strategic rationale for doing it, why are Democrats dead-set on hurting themselves?

"Because they think they know what's best for the public," the strategist said. "They think the facts are being distorted and the public's being told a story that is not entirely true, and that they are in Congress to be leaders. And they are going to make the decision because Goddammit, it's good for the public."

Of course, going forward has turned out to be harder than many Democrats thought. And now, with various proposals lying wrecked along the road, the true believers are practicing what the strategist calls "principled damage control."

But still, does it make sense? In the end, perhaps the most compelling explanation for Democratic behavior is that they are simply in too deep to do anything else. "Once you've gone this far, what is the cost of failure?" asks the strategist.

At that point -- Republicans will love this -- he compared congressional Democrats with robbers who have passed the point of no return in deciding to hold up a bank. Whatever they do, they're guilty of something. "They're in the bank, they've got their guns out. They can run outside with no money, or they can stick it out, go through the gunfight, and get away with the money."

That's it. Democrats are all in. They're going through with it. Even if it kills them. (Let me add here... WATERLOO.)

178
180

...nevermind, we've all seen how Democrats fold, when push comes to shove.

179

It's over. The maybes will cave, as any idiot can see. They sure as hell ain't going to retire back in their districts, where they will have to check under their car every morning and stay away from the windows and besides, they'll get nice cushy lobbying jobs in DC.

This will not end well, but that's a good thing.

180 "179

He's asking people to pray that there is no violence this weekend in DC.

Posted by: curious at March 19, 2010 09:26 AM (p302b)

Beck's the biggest drama queen on the air.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 10:04 AM (F5Gxy)"

He may be a "drama queen" but his ratings are through the roof.  Guess people like watching a drama queen.

181 Dear Reprensentative

Remember how Clinton burned up all those women and children in Waco? You're marching to your deaths this weekend. There is no reason you have to go down with the cult. You're disposable to them. They will leave you behind, and there's no glory in this. It's suicide. You can still have a political future and make a meaningful contribution to the American people. Please vote NO.

182 Posted by: TexasJew at March 19, 2010 10:12 AM (wMXOq)

The congressman on Batchelor last night said they are "being kept in DC".   I'm wondering if anyone is even telling them how angry the American people are.   I'm wondering if they are hearing from their office staff what their constituents are saying.   It does seem quite bizarre that they are all willing to sacrifice their own jobs for this one bill, as though they think all of the country wants it.

183

They have decided, however, to go for broke on Sunday and attempt to pass it whether or not they have enough support.

curious, I'd said this before.  Now I'm no fancy-pants pundit, but it's abundantly clear she has nothing to lose by forcing a vote without the votes.  They cannot delay the vote anymore.

Do not give up.

184

I rarely laugh out loud at anything.  I did when I saw this.

Go to jammie wearing fool and scroll down.

185

my plumber and my doctor know each other.  my plumber makes more than my doctor

That's great, but plumbers have to work for their money. Which makes them decidely unlike defeated congress critters who also make more then doctors.

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