January 24, 2010
— Gabriel Malor Three different White House officials gave out three different numbers for jobs "saved or created" on three different morning shows today. Fools:
Valerie Jarrett had the most conservative count, saying “the Recovery Act saved thousands and thousands of jobs,” while David Axelrod gave the bill the most credit, saying it has “created more than – or saved more than 2 million jobs.” Press Secretary Robert Gibbs came in between them, saying the plan had “saved or created 1.5 million jobs.”
Five dollars says that President Obama uses a fourth number in the State of the Union speech.
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Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at January 24, 2010 02:09 PM (93A0R)
Posted by: mrfixit at January 24, 2010 02:09 PM (Bsm1s)
how about some updates on the exploding axelturf letters?
Posted by: weewilly at January 24, 2010 02:10 PM (iBHcm)
We called folk like this DAs - and that ain't district attorney.
Posted by: TennDon at January 24, 2010 02:11 PM (o6Yv2)
Posted by: Carl Sagan at January 24, 2010 02:12 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: pep at January 24, 2010 02:12 PM (0K3p3)
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 24, 2010 02:13 PM (6Plsu)
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at January 24, 2010 02:15 PM (93A0R)
shame on the 'journalists' for allowing this fraud to continue
they don't challenge Obama on any of his bullshit, so of course they're gonna keep saying stuff like 'saved or created.'
Posted by: This is lolboner at January 24, 2010 02:15 PM (GRgk4)
Posted by: alexthechick at January 24, 2010 02:17 PM (TtXKB)
I saved or created millions of jobs not only here at home but also throught the world.
You didn't know I did that, did you?
Posted by: B+rry Ob+mao at January 24, 2010 02:17 PM (CH5ak)
Thank you aaaaaaand good night.
God bless Me
Posted by: B Hussein O'really at January 24, 2010 02:18 PM (pRKLf)
Posted by: The White House at January 24, 2010 02:18 PM (bgcml)
They have convinced themselves we all want what they're pushing, we just don't know it yet.
Plus, it's gonna create like, millions of jobs or something.
Posted by: The Hammer at January 24, 2010 02:19 PM (YBTwf)
Posted by: Mmm, Kool-Aid! at January 24, 2010 02:20 PM (cnAdZ)
Posted by: Watcher at January 24, 2010 02:21 PM (I0yaj)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 24, 2010 02:21 PM (Lo+id)
Posted by: Ernie Arnastos at January 24, 2010 02:22 PM (JZa9d)
I suspect the latter.
Posted by: Mikey at January 24, 2010 02:23 PM (TJoID)
Mostly created, though.
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 24, 2010 02:23 PM (6Plsu)
Posted by: fluffy fears the IRS at January 24, 2010 02:25 PM (4Kl5M)
yeah, s. weasel used to be a regular commenter here
Posted by: This is lolboner at January 24, 2010 06:22 PM (GRgk4)
Still is, just not as frequently as we might wish.
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at January 24, 2010 02:25 PM (93A0R)
That would be net of any jobs "saved or created" by the Obama Stimulus.
So add the "saved or created" jobs to the lost jobs, and that's the actual total of jobs destroyed by the Obama Administration. Right?
The more jobs they say they "saved or created," the more they in actuality destroyed.
Posted by: stuiec at January 24, 2010 02:26 PM (GU29T)
Bammy's lying sacks of excrement are too depressing for a Sunday night.
After the stellar week we had, I suggest we all rejoice by watching the best commercial ever.
http://tinyurl.com/5mssdr
Posted by: RushBabe at January 24, 2010 02:27 PM (LKkE8)
Keeping your lies straight is haaaaard! But fortunately, lying out my ass to the media is easy as pie! Nobody says squat - they don't even sort of arch their fucking eyebrows! Dear God, they just love me.
Hey, I give you guys three years to knock off these 3rd degree treatments!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sometimes I just kill myself - eh, Bo?
Posted by: Obama the Wonderful at January 24, 2010 02:27 PM (ktKOD)
Posted by: YIKES! at January 24, 2010 02:28 PM (jrlj0)
How many jobs have been lost since Teh Won was inaugurated?
It doesn't matter; that's irelevant! oooh look, Michelle has a garden...
Posted by: This is the media at January 24, 2010 02:28 PM (GRgk4)
Posted by: combatyoga at January 24, 2010 02:29 PM (CkCRW)
Jell-O pudding, the preferred substance for celebrating the failure of America's first Black President, is a product whose advertising heavily featured America's most popular Black entertainer.
Is there any irony there?
Posted by: stuiec at January 24, 2010 02:29 PM (GU29T)
I see what you did there, the whole good vs. evil thing.
Posted by: Modgi at January 24, 2010 02:29 PM (c96aC)
The more jobs they say they "saved or created," the more they in actuality destroyed.
Good point, and puts the 'created or saved' bullshit in the proper perspective.
Posted by: 141 Driver at January 24, 2010 02:29 PM (JFNQ7)
Posted by: Jen Park at January 24, 2010 02:30 PM (Z7Znk)
and parakeets are not baby parrots.
Since you're eager to learm, budgees aren't wedgies that result in skid marks.
Posted by: mghorning at January 24, 2010 02:30 PM (wmfdZ)
Day 5 of the outrage from the moonbats over Gitmo not being closed.
Gee, I hope they calm down soon. Especially those code pink assholes.
Posted by: This is the media at January 24, 2010 02:31 PM (GRgk4)
Posted by: Butzi at January 24, 2010 02:32 PM (qLV03)
Posted by: gump at January 24, 2010 02:33 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 24, 2010 02:34 PM (euuyg)
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at January 24, 2010 02:34 PM (LTXWa)
Posted by: diondrum at January 24, 2010 02:34 PM (QsSzZ)
And second a request for a thread on the massive astroturfing.
Posted by: Methos at January 24, 2010 02:34 PM (Xsi7M)
Posted by: David Smith at January 24, 2010 02:35 PM (r5fdv)
Posted by: Modgi at January 24, 2010 02:37 PM (c96aC)
Let's pretend for a minute that the 2 million number is correct. That's a half-million dollars per job saved.
Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 24, 2010 02:37 PM (euuyg)
Posted by: nyc redneck at January 24, 2010 02:37 PM (EtrGh)
Posted by: mghorning at January 24, 2010 02:38 PM (wmfdZ)
$787,000 million/2 million=$393,500 Eh, close enough for government work.
Posted by: Methos at January 24, 2010 02:39 PM (Xsi7M)
Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 24, 2010 06:37 PM (euuyg) </i>
this is exactly what makes it so f*cking absurd, even if you DO accept the premise it's a ridiculous waste of china's money, and i re-state my request for updates on the axleturfing story (which imo is HUGE!).
Posted by: weewilly at January 24, 2010 02:40 PM (iBHcm)
Posted by: Stephen Wright at January 24, 2010 02:40 PM (wmfdZ)
Posted by: John F. Stott at January 24, 2010 02:41 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 24, 2010 02:41 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 02:42 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 02:43 PM (p302b)
Posted by: exceller at January 24, 2010 02:45 PM (Z7Znk)
Fomenting economic doubt and uncertainty has cost far more jobs than the Spendulus ever created. This damage was optional - - they didn't have to make lenders wary of lending, and borrowers wary of borrowing, and employers wary of employing, and consumers wary of consuming. But they did it anyway. Cheap and easy to sandbag the economy that way - just get on TV every couple of days and say some radical things about what crazy shit the government might pull next.
They could have just saved the money and not said a bunch of wild things. If an economic recovery was what they wanted, I mean.
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at January 24, 2010 02:45 PM (tm15w)
17 The 2010 midterms are all about pickup trucks.
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard
I drive a pickup. Leave my truck out of it.
Posted by: sTevo at January 24, 2010 06:34 PM (eA3tl)
That's wasist!
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at January 24, 2010 02:45 PM (omzpd)
Posted by: Ellie Light at January 24, 2010 06:30 PM (IhHdM)
Whoever is Sockpuppetting Ellie needs to keep including random locations as part of the sock like "From Kallamazoo" or "from Axelrod's bedroom"
Posted by: buzzion at January 24, 2010 02:46 PM (oVQFe)
The banksters have tankers filled with oil floating offshore. The price is going to go up.
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 02:46 PM (p302b)
Is it just me or has the White House looked more and more incompetent lately as they have found that the SRM is slowly backing away from them? In the beginning, at least they were consistent with their bullshit. Now, not so much. I think losing three and coming close to losing a fourth election has rattled them more than we know.
They and congress, are now starting to understand the anger at their agenda and are at this point just hoping for some good news they can spin their way. He is pretty much a failure in every area including national security even though he finally understands Bush was mostly right. The naivete expressed by this so-called "smartest administration evah" is beyond comprehension.
Posted by: Bill R. at January 24, 2010 02:46 PM (EhlQq)
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 02:47 PM (p302b)
What's this?
You dare question The Numbers?
I'm shocked, shocked that anyone says that Astroturfing is going on in the MSM.
Don't you know?
There are No Rules for Radicals (found at The Jawa Report).
Posted by: Arbalest at January 24, 2010 02:50 PM (WW58d)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 24, 2010 02:50 PM (DPM1U)
Posted by: John Yerkes Iselin at January 24, 2010 02:51 PM (xqhoO)
Didn't watch the morning political programs but even my liberal friends are starting to shake their heads. Apaprently the administration was all over the place saying that he was "sticking to his agenda" since he won the popular vote and that means more people want him to stick to it than don't. A quote from my liberal friend who has backed him "no matter what" is "well, yeah man, but things change and you have to change with them, you can't just say, I'm changing what you don't want changed cause you wanted it changed when we voted you in, you can't say you can't change man, cause you have to if the people aren't happy or the first thing they will change when they get a chance is you man".
That disjointed way was exactly how he said it and though we all thought it was funny, he made his point. He's about to jump ship.
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 02:51 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Jean at January 24, 2010 02:56 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: mghorning at January 24, 2010 02:57 PM (wmfdZ)
Posted by: bour3 at January 24, 2010 02:57 PM (Ya12A)
Posted by: Jen Park at January 24, 2010 06:30 PM (Z7Znk)
Yeah, right. And the Dems keep trying discredited and disproved ideas in hopes they will work this time because different people are running the show. Unemployed? Yeah, raise my taxes in a recession. Create all new taxes for me to figure out how to pay for those not interested in working themsleves. Yeah Obama's a real leader, he's leading this country right down the toilet into the ash heap of history.
Posted by: Bill R. at January 24, 2010 02:59 PM (EhlQq)
Posted by: bour3 at January 24, 2010 06:57 PM (Ya12A)
Doubtful, Clinton made it the full eight, didn't he? Similarly that leftist douche who followed him.
Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at January 24, 2010 03:00 PM (omzpd)
#100 Jean
Not this particular fantasy number.
Ancalagon later went into the home water softening business, as a retirement job.
Posted by: Arbalest at January 24, 2010 03:00 PM (WW58d)
That's right. Robert Gibbs was on FNC this morning peddling that gem. Hearing it right after the spanking on Tuesday night, I thought the Dems/media were just more rattled than usual, but no, they are going with it. I guess Marcia Coakley was just a figment of our collective imaginations.
Posted by: diondrum at January 24, 2010 03:03 PM (QsSzZ)
Posted by: sybilll at January 24, 2010 03:05 PM (iOjEw)
Posted by: Ellie Light from mommy's basement at January 24, 2010 03:06 PM (Xsi7M)
Posted by: Ellie Light from mommy's basement at January 24, 2010 07:06 PM (Xsi7M)'
Thanks I'll go read it haven't been around for a couple of days. Although maybe i already saw it...been a very crazy day for me, almost didn't get to watch the jets.
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 03:07 PM (p302b)
Posted by: bour3 at January 24, 2010 06:57 PM (Ya12A)
'Taint funny McGee
Posted by: Molly at January 24, 2010 03:18 PM (CKW49)
In Mexico.
On the black market.
Where "Drugs brings more money to Mexico than oil" .
Posted by: K~Bob at January 24, 2010 03:20 PM (9b6FB)
Posted by: Steve L. at January 24, 2010 03:21 PM (mIIVr)
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 03:23 PM (p302b)
Posted by: torabora at January 24, 2010 03:26 PM (CH5ak)
I really don't see Obama doing that.
Posted by: Techie at January 24, 2010 03:34 PM (zbH+i)
Barry should be told that 'creating' GOVERNMENT JOBS does not count!
Posted by: GarandFan at January 24, 2010 03:36 PM (ZQBnQ)
Posted by: dananjcon at January 24, 2010 03:39 PM (n6BeM)
Posted by: Obama Flunkies at January 24, 2010 03:53 PM (zw+pb)
Posted by: AE at January 24, 2010 04:08 PM (kSfPT)
Mrs. Obama [at meal time] I'm sorry, hon'. Would it really make it easier for you if we settled on just one number for jobs created for saved?
Pres. Obama: Yeah. Just one, real, simple number that'd be easy for me to remember.
[Mrs. Obama watches her husband thump a report of the actual jobs lost since he took office]
Pres Obama: [addressing the Senate] ...and I have here the names of exactly 1 million, 1.5 million, 2 MILLION jobs saved or created since I have taken office.
Posted by: President John Yerkes Obama at January 24, 2010 04:21 PM (ej0Vm)
Posted by: antisocialist at January 24, 2010 04:23 PM (Rwudm)
116 -- But, but, according to the MSM, el precedente is following in the fine bi-partisan tradition of Sir Teddy!
**note to the Secret Service: don't let him near the steering wheel of an Oldsmobile or any bridges...wait staff might need to become verboten as well
Posted by: unknown jane at January 24, 2010 04:39 PM (5/yRG)
she is saying it isn't all about style which is what they think but about substance and they don't get it....she jsut made fun of Val J.
Posted by: curious at January 24, 2010 05:37 PM (p302b)
Just keep fucking that chicken...
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at January 24, 2010 05:54 PM (SgL5z)
It sounds like that's what's going on here.
I bet if you watch the whole segments in these shows, you'll find that even the Obama spokespeople are using the same well-documented hypnosis-for-crowds that Obama was purported to have been using, in other ways, as well. One thing I have noticed the past few years, is that one of their talk-show and interview techniques is to just ignore the question, or use the question as a steppingstone to a whole pre-written script, which the MSM interviewer, according to longstanding tradition, ignores - they know that their show is just a propaganda conduit. See how many other numbers they toss out during their time on the air, and I bet it's a lot. The trick was to just keep talking, keep throwing out dollar amounts, specific-size families, miles per gallon, percentages, rates - and emotional codewords like HOPE and CHANGE.
I'm telling you, these people are the most devious sons of old scratch this world's seen in a long, long time. All they know is DECEIVE. They know it well.
Can anyone here doubt that hypnosis is real when Obama had half this nation convinced that he was a Fine Orator? The man had never spoken anything to more than 5 people at a time that wasn't either fully scripted or part of a well-rehearsed, logical speaking technique.
Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at January 24, 2010 06:04 PM (ltfED)
The document I was referring to. Supposedly debunked as wild-assed, rightwing tinfoilism, but there you have it.
Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at January 24, 2010 06:09 PM (ltfED)
than even the subject can usually communicate to themselves with his or her own thoughts.
"Pacing and leading is a fundamental tool in conversational or covert hypnosis."
-last link, p.14
"He not only forces you to focus, and asks you to use imagination, but he has you count numbers, e.g., “sixteen months”, “thousands of miles”, “millions of voices heard.” Firstly, “one of the techniques employed by hypnotists in inducing or deepening a trance state in a client is that of having the client count."
"Now here is where it gets really interesting. Obama uses the following key hypnosis technique, now his fourth separate and distinct fundamental hypnosis technique in just his first paragraph. He applies a dominant hemisphere distraction technique precisely as taught by EricksonÂ’s three dimensions of
hypnosis.
"Distraction is a common and fundamental technique in hypnosis in which the dominant hemisphere is distracted by the language its job is to process. The dominant hemisphere is sent on an assignment using the linguistic processes and imagination. The critical factor is thus occupied, to make the non-dominant hemisphere and subconscious more susceptible to suggestion.
"Here is how it works. He asks you to imagine sixteen months, so you do. You follow where the storyteller takes your mind and so you try to imagine thousands of miles, and continue following along where he leads you. However, the conscious mind cannot imagine a million voices, the number is too big, though Obama tricks you with the first two numbers into trying, by leading you down a path of increasingly difficult concepts to imagine consciously. Notice how cleverly he leads you down a path which causes the dominant hemisphere to be distracted, and tune out of trying to do exactly what he is asking you to do."
ditto, p. 37
It seems to be, to my undereducated mind, a thorough and quite well-annotated document, that's for sure.
Posted by: Taqiyyotomist at January 24, 2010 06:25 PM (ltfED)
Perfect teaching moment to be tackled on a "Spongebob
Squarepants" future episode. "Lying isn't good" Kids,
don't lie. Don't be a Democrat!
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