1 They are claiming this is a hoax aren't they?

2 Link

“We have checked with every Democratic office, no one has ever seen it. It did not come out of a Democratic office,” the aide said, adding that media outlets printing the memo have not checked with leadership offices if the memo is authentic. A second Democratic leadership aide confirmed the memo was not sent by the Democrats. A third Democratic aide also said the memo is fake, citing the “draft” stamp and saying no one uses such things.

    “If this were a Democratic communications person who wrote this, they should be fired, because this looks like Republican talking points,” the third Democratic aide told TPMDC.

    The memo alleging the changes commonly known as a “doc fix” would be politically damaging to Democrats, who already are holding together a fragile coalition to get the needed 216 votes Sunday.

They are probably lying but this is their claim.

3

Get a rope.

4 They are probably lying but this is their claim.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 20, 2010 01:50 PM (593B

That's a completely different memo you are talking about. The one you are talking about was a list of talking points to congressman telling them to not talk about certains stuff.

The one Gabe is talking about is soliciting support from government workers by whitehouse staff.

5 what difference does it make.....they'll use the we didn't know excuse and apologize and that will be that.....

6 Sharrukin - this is a different issue than the memo you are referring to.  We are in the debris field of the HCR hurricane and stuff is flying around too fast to dodge.

7 Neutrality... the first thing everyone learns about the bureaucracy in any public admin class. What a joke that is, and this is.

8 Of course they deny it, but like all the rest of the time when they open their mouths a lie comes out.

9 This is akin to a school system with an upcoming bond election allowing the teacher's union to use the school's e-mail system to advocate voting for the bond election.  Wrong, but done all the time.

10 We are becoming a nation of flaws.

11 although i have no 'proof', a 'trusted source' in doj also got an e-mail like that at 'his/her' .gov account

12 Well OK then, I am a moron. That's not exactly news!

13 Makes you wonder then if some of these folks have gotten the 12 emails from the campaign this week if they are making these phone calls and sending these emails and calling these talk shows at work?

14 A friend of mine who is not very well informed said to us "how come they are having so many working weekends?  Does their union make it worth their while to work weekends, like double overtime or something?"

I kid you not, but in this day and age he's right to say that.  When they vote themselves a raise does it include any perks for working on weekends?  And, do federal employees also work the weekends cause aren't they in a union?

15 Not to mention the huuuuuuuuge violation of the Hatch Act that this represents - I've been a government employee for almost 30 years (blue collar, I'm an aircraft mechanic at a Fleet Readiness Center), and this has been hammered home to us again and again.  Every election cycle, the monthly facility-wide fish wrapper publishes a list of no-no's for us lowly peons with reference to elections and endorsements and campaigning. 
Plus - PLUS - if we, the common folk who have .gov email addresses used those email accounts for this sort of nonsense, the firewalls would catch the emails as well as the email-er, and someone would lose their computer access, to say the least.

16 ObamaCare XII: The Suggestioning.

17
Corruption, thy name is the modern Democrat party.

18 This is what Hugo Chavez does in Venezuela. 

Seriously.  That isn't hyperbole. 

Oh freedom, we'll miss you.

19 15   Same deal in private sector jobs.  Except when a pointy headed boss gets caught breaking one of the "you just don't do this" rules, it's all the peons that have to attend sexual harrassment training, diversity training, financial fraud training, and on and on and on.

20 Most ethical administration EVAH!

21

Guys, really. There are two types of federal employees. The first are hourly employees, they belong to unions and get overtime just like someone who works in a grocery store. They usually are not college educated and have a low skill set. The other type of federal employees are salaried.

They do not belong to unions and work until the job is done. Some weeks, usually during congressional recesses or around holidays, they work a 40 hour week. When things get going, that goes up to 60, if there is something big going on, then they work all the time to get the work done and only come home to sleep. I didn't see my husband one whole summer because of a trial. Sometimes if they have worked this much they will get a bonus....wait....of 1000 dollars. After taxes that is $670 bucks. So don't think that salaried govt employees are paying themselves overtime.

22 When will this be covered by a network news show? I am so effin pissed at the degree those marxists had even me fooled before summer 08 I'm thinking I need to file FCC complaints, yeah fat lot of traction they would get but maybe the networks would at least do a bit of CYA coverage of the demorcrap corruption.

23 So don't think that salaried govt employees are paying themselves overtime.

Posted by: dagny at March 20, 2010 02:10 PM (EF8Kp)

No, you're absolutely right.  (Except about the uneducated hourly workers - I have a bachelor's degree with a dual major in management and finance; getting promoted from wage-grade to General Schedule isn't as easy as it might be, so I'm still in my tool box for now.)  About the best a salaried employee can hope for is compensatory time off, and even then, it's at the discretion of his or her boss. 

24

Byron York reports that Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D., Calif.) says he won't vote for a "Deem & Pass" rule. He wants a straight-up vote on the bill.

Rep. Henry Waxman (D., Calif.) says the Medicare payments disparity issue that held back Rep. Pete DeFazio (D., Ore.) and others from supporting the bill has been resolved.

 

NRO

Perhaps whip count will change. 

25 This kind of thing is a major violation of Civil Service rules if it was sent to people who were "career" employees and not political appointees.

Civil Service laws are very strict about any political activity for the employees or their families.  Sending e-mails to them "encouraging" them to advocate the President's plan is a major deal because it implicitly says "Support this or you're fired", despite the protections that an employee is supposed to have in a CS position.

26

About the best a salaried employee can hope for is compensatory time off, and even then, it's at the discretion of his or her boss. 

Or worse, the employee himself. My husband had surgery on a wednesday. The next monday he had 3000 emails that required attention. He never actually takes a day off but is constantly working from his blackberry. He used to give away about 80 hours of leave every year until he got high enough to keep it from year to year.

I won't have sex in the same room as the blackberry. It's competition.

He won't take the comp time because it puts him too far behind. The only benefit is that if he wants to take off early one day for something, no one would dare say anything.

27 This is akin to a school system with an upcoming bond election allowing the teacher's union to use the school's e-mail system to advocate voting for the bond election.

Not only do they do that here, but when defeated ina general election they wait a few months and hold a "special election" in which you get heavy turnout by county employees and no one else.

And then they have the nerve to brag that it won by a large margin when only 900 people out of 70,000 voted.

28 About the best a salaried employee can hope for is compensatory time off, and even then, it's at the discretion of his or her boss.

Having been a salaried worker for years I can tell you the old standard saying "there is no such thing as comp time".

However, it also works both ways.  There is also no such thing as "sick leave" etc for doctor's visits etc.

You are paid a fixed salary regardless of hours worked be they 38 or 48.

29

Some of the commenters are confusing these two items:

Item #1 democrats are denying that a letter written about the "DocFix" was the work of democrats

Item #2 Is a totally different story. It's in reference to someone from the White House sending out E-mails to gov't employees... From the linked CBS story

"The White House Office of Health Reform Director Nancy-Ann DeParle has been feverishly sending out unsolicited email messages to federal employees in an effort to build support for President Barack ObamaÂ’s health reform package over the last several weeks."

30 My boss suggested I show up to work today.
I did. But only because I felt like it.

31 The Demoncrats only want to drag us kicking and screaming to their Socialist Utopia, so that makes any underhanded, quisling, lie soaked, crap they pull fully justified, and a-OK. Got It? Now be a good little subject, and shut the hell up....

32 Laws are, apparently, for the "little people" after all.

33 Hatch Act?  Never heard of it.

34 In addition, government employee unions regularly send out their position papers on the health care reform, like why exemption for union plans is a good idea because it would help the government attract quality workers.

35

Can you even imagine if the Bush White House.............................never mind.

36 re: 24 Guess DeFazio got bought off. Was surprised when he came out as a "No" vote. He just wanted a little love, and he got it.

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