October 22, 2010

Why Not? Illegal Immigrants Openly Canvassing For Votes In Seattle
— Ace

As tipster Annabelle says, "Why hell, why be shy?"

Indeed.

There are two problems here:

1) Obviously the law of the land is not being enforced at all if illegal immigrants feel comfortable taking a promiment public role in a big election and talking to the press about it-- offering their name, and allowing themselves to be pictured.

2) While canvassing itself is not illegal -- only voting is -- I do not believe for one second that illegals, who identify themselves as illegals to the people they're canvassing, are only encouraging "naturalized citizens" to vote, as claimed. And I don't believe that many of them aren't taking their participation in American democracy to the next (illegal) level, either.

I think the GOP should propose a law (once we take Congress) that people withdrawing money from banks should not have to show identification -- merely sign their name. The bank can check to see if that name corresponds to a customer, but should not be permitted to request ID.

Why not? Apparently that system is a strong enough safegaurd for the vote; why should tawdry money be more protected?

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1 This crap burns me up. And I ain't all that pleasant anyhoo....

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:12 AM (OlN4e)

2 This election, like I have been sayin, is going to get ugly with the amount of fraud that will be present. 

Posted by: journolist at October 22, 2010 09:12 AM (O/NP5)

3

hmm. Well i think all american citizens should go south over the border and start riots about all our tax dollars going to the mexican citizens that Mexico doesn't want!

Hey Calderon!!

Posted by: willow at October 22, 2010 09:13 AM (iAu/o)

4 I think the GOP should propose a law (once we take Congress) that people withdrawing money from banks should not have to show identification -- merely sign their name. Good idea- I've just about got George Soros' signature down pat...

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 22, 2010 09:13 AM (02uN6)

5 These shadows I always here about illegal immigrants being stuck in, they are not as deep or dark as I've been told.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 22, 2010 09:14 AM (HicGG)

6 Hey!  We worked so hard for that right to canvass...

Posted by: Seattle Illegal Aliens at October 22, 2010 09:14 AM (Zsqn4)

7 Nothing exciting for Seattle.

We're nearly 100% "mail ballot" and the signature matching is a complete joke. A couple elections back, the signatures were still considered "public records" meaning you could look people's signatures up online. I don't know if that's still true, but elections here are deliberately beyond asinine. Also, the lawsuits over the 2004 gubernatorial election has had the result that people know they just can't be prosecuted for "trying to make sure my vote counts" by sending in multiple ballot and other "individual" levels of crap.

Posted by: Al at October 22, 2010 09:14 AM (MzQOZ)

8 Los Vietnamese y los Republicanos están intentando prohibir el tacos.

Posted by: Loretta Sanchez, D-Calif at October 22, 2010 09:15 AM (0IR+C)

9 *hangs head in shame*

Posted by: Editor at October 22, 2010 09:16 AM (pUfK9)

10 How's about running through the area shouting "La migra! La migra!" every time you see them?

Posted by: RushBabe at October 22, 2010 09:16 AM (a3Z62)

11 Yeah, but they're not illegal-illegal.

Posted by: Whoopi at October 22, 2010 09:16 AM (FcR7P)

12 I admit, I get a little nervous when I see a Mexican. Nervous that my wallet's about to get a little lighter.

Posted by: Juan Williams at October 22, 2010 09:18 AM (FcR7P)

13 Don't forget all the Democrats who opposed voter identification requirements demanding that the uppity proles who wanted to go to their townhall meetings show their papers.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at October 22, 2010 09:18 AM (0IR+C)

14 The cherry on top will be when illegals start getting jobs with the INS because background checks would be racist.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2010 09:19 AM (FcR7P)

15
By far, my biggest disappointment with the Republican party is their ignorance in the issue of illegal residents.

They are sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution. And they are supposed to be in Washington representing their citizen-constituents, not the resident-leeches who live in their constituency.

To top it off, you'd think the Republicans would have enough brains and will for self-preservation. The illegals are the death knell of the Republican party.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 22, 2010 09:20 AM (uFokq)

16

Just on observation on the efffectiveness of liberal/progressive memes and controlling the narrative.

They are extremely effective.  Just look at ace.  His title is "Illegal Immigrants Openly Canvassing"

But as we all know, until just recently, the term was Illegal Aliens.

The whole Illegal Immigrants term was chosen because it sounds better/friendlier than illegal alien.

Pretty soon we will all be calling them undocumented imigrants.  Or underground citizen patriots.

Posted by: ed at October 22, 2010 09:22 AM (Zsqn4)

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at October 22, 2010 09:22 AM (ruu60)

18 hmm. Well i think all american citizens should go south over the border and start riots about all our tax dollars going to the mexican citizens that Mexico doesn't want!

I would, but I kind of like my head where it is, willow.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2010 09:22 AM (Ew1k4)

19 I still think it's going to take a revolution to wash the idiocy of political correctness from this land. We are swimming in that shit, and the stench is overpowering. We are awash in stoopid. Unwashed, unabashed, unashamed stupidity.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:23 AM (OlN4e)

20

honestly. why don't we start a campaign against mexico's elite and the elite in america that use illegals for cheap labor. why not impress upon mexicans that have had to leave their homeland to find survival at all? Why don't we lean on Mexico to do right by the citizens of their country.

why is this always about us  fighting back and forth about illegls-  against US , why arent we taking this malice the elites of both countries do to the citizens of both countries? why do we allow them to set the dialogue? Why not instead give the mexican citizens the gumption and skills to fight against their own elite bigoted  gvt. that steals all the resources for the good of a few families?

 Ive never understood this argument, hell mexico is right next door. we can go across the globe to fight against tyranny but right next door?...

Posted by: willow at October 22, 2010 09:23 AM (iAu/o)

21 I do not believe for one second that illegals, who identify themselves as illegals to the people they're canvassing, are only encouraging "naturalized citizens" to vote, as claimed.

I would hope that a wise undocumented Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a naturalized citizen who hasnÂ’t lived that life.

Posted by: Sonia Sotomayor at October 22, 2010 09:23 AM (0IR+C)

22 This story makes me want to rape Harry Reid.

Posted by: Pat Caddell at October 22, 2010 09:23 AM (Y81Xa)

23

On illegal and fraudulent voting, I blame the Republicans and Bush, seriously. 

I would leave Bush out of that one - it's a state issue right?

Posted by: Roadking at October 22, 2010 09:23 AM (bPQGS)

24

The man who saved the world, by his own admission, can't make a coherent argument:

http://tinyurl.com/26v3ay4

This savior of the world stuff is hard. 

It's harder when you're stupid.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 22, 2010 09:25 AM (r1h5M)

25 Illegal Immigrants New Americans Openly Canvassing For Votes In SeattleFIFY

Posted by: Governor O'Malley of the Great State of Maryland at October 22, 2010 09:25 AM (xxgag)

26 roadking i had always thought it was a state issue until Obama and administration  threatening AZ.

Posted by: willow at October 22, 2010 09:26 AM (iAu/o)

27

Shut up, you racist teabaggers! Illegals, if given amnesty, will eventually vote Republican. Because they share our values, except that "breaking the law to be-here" thing. And quite possibly the fraudulent social security numbers. And the stank of the socialist repressionist governments that they are supposed to be fleeing from.....

Er...did you know that many latinos are religious? Natural-born Republicans, I tell you.

Posted by: Karl Rove at October 22, 2010 09:26 AM (YmPwQ)

28 America has got to be the only country on Earth that uses the honor system to ensure that non-citizens don't vote.

Posted by: Cicero at October 22, 2010 09:27 AM (QKKT0)

29 While canvassing itself is not illegal -- only voting is -- I do not believe for one second that illegals, who identify themselves as illegals to the people they're canvassing, are only encouraging "naturalized citizens" to vote, as claimed. And I don't believe that many of them aren't taking their participation in American democracy to the next (illegal) level, either.


Are you trying to  imply that illegal aliens are doing something illegal?  The hell you say!

Posted by: Crush Liberalism at October 22, 2010 09:27 AM (8X9tr)

30 Time to go to bed Karl. Your brain has grown mouldy.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:27 AM (OlN4e)

31 This is how I suspect the conversation goes:

Maria:  Hola.  Did you get a ballot in the mail?
Called:  Ci.
Maria:  Can you read the name on the ballot?
Called:  Ci.
Maria:  Would you be able to sign that name on the envelope?
Called: Ci.
Maria:  Okay, let's fill-out that ballot.
Called:  Ci.
Maria:  Bueno.  We'll have someone come over and pick it up, from you.




Posted by: Editor at October 22, 2010 09:28 AM (pUfK9)

32 Ive never understood this argument, hell mexico is right next door. we can go across the globe to fight against tyranny but right next door?... Posted by: willow at October 22, 2010 01:23 PM (iAu/o) Well, if I remember my 11th grade history correctly we did actually conquer Mexico once (if you consider militarily occupying their capital city a "conquest") but we couldn't figure out what to do with it so we gave it back. In retrospect maybe that wasn't such a great idea...

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 22, 2010 09:29 AM (02uN6)

33

#21

Maddog is right about that which name shall not be spoken. After this election when we find out that the dems miraculously pulled out all of the close races, then I think we will know what to do.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 22, 2010 09:29 AM (tuZ6Z)

34

This savior of the world stuff is hard. 

It's harder when you're stupid.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 22, 2010 01:25 PM (r1h5M)

Jesus may have died for your sins but he didn't write his own book.

Posted by: Harry "horse Head in Your Bed" Ried at October 22, 2010 09:30 AM (xxgag)

35
Are you trying to  imply that illegal aliens are doing something illegal?  The hell you say!

Right wing extremists want to make being illegal a crime!

Posted by: Cuntessa Brewer, NBC News at October 22, 2010 09:30 AM (0IR+C)

36
This is so pathetic, I don't know what to say.

Illegals know that if they can vote for the party that will instantaneously hand them a welfare check, they will support and vote for the democrats.  Illegally.


The law?  Who needs it....   Right democrats?


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 22, 2010 09:30 AM (0fzsA)

37

 roadking i had always thought it was a state issue until Obama and administration  threatening AZ.

Willow - I was referring to cleaning up voting, not illegal immigration.  That one is definatly a team effort.

Posted by: Roadking at October 22, 2010 09:30 AM (bPQGS)

38

Karl's brain is mouldy, while mine is moldy. Heh.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:31 AM (OlN4e)

39

The Libertarian in me wants to cringe... but... its time for a National ID Card tied to your Passport, Citizenship status, and drivers license, which MUST be shown to vote.

And the whole vote abscentee ballot thing needs to go away EXCEPT for military voters...

Oh, and make Election day a National Holiday, with polls open for 24 hours (if we can take a day off for Martin Luther King, we can certainly take a day off to choose who writes our laws).

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 22, 2010 09:31 AM (AdK6a)

40
We need state's attorneys general who have the balls to SUE Mexico for fraud and to pay for the education and medical care the citizens of Mexico have incurred on the taxpayers of the United States.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2010 09:31 AM (uFokq)

41 Seattle is hopelessly Marxist. It should  not be mentioned. Ever.

Posted by: Barbarian at October 22, 2010 09:32 AM (EL+OC)

42

I'm gonna start a voting booth tour for foreigners on vacation.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at October 22, 2010 09:32 AM (HaYO4)

43

I just received an e-mail from the House Republican Conf. with the following  link   - in response to the hair on fire e-mail I sent to them earlier this week over talk about "compromising."

This is the second assurancy GOP e-mail I got after top congressional GOP leaders were provided with my original e-mail.  

They know millions of  us will be through with the GOP if the wave mandate ain't abided. 

Rome West is burning so I'm kinda not in the mood to compromise.

 

Posted by: journolist at October 22, 2010 09:33 AM (O/NP5)

44

It might be if you could only vote for state offices, and if there were no Article 4 section 4 in the Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Hey Toby - Thanks for putting me some f'n knowledge.  That's kinda why I had the ? at the end of my statement. 

Posted by: Roadking at October 22, 2010 09:33 AM (bPQGS)

45 I am a Poll watcher for the GOP. They don't really need me here, but they really, really need poll watchers in Seattle, California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and probably Nevada.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:34 AM (OlN4e)

46 Nighthawk. maybe time for another look at it all. srsly. why should we fund the elites of mexicos lifestyle, they don't even attempt to keep a normal country by the sweat of Their brows. they don't deserve leadership as far as i know.. mexicans have been running over here for decades because they have NO future there.  Teach them to fight for their homeland and their Freedom in Their homeland !

Posted by: willow at October 22, 2010 09:34 AM (iAu/o)

47

Editor, your post might have more impact if there were such a word as "Ci".

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2010 09:34 AM (G5wsx)

48

Editor, your post might have more impact if there were such a word as "Ci".

Posted by: Log Cabin at October 22, 2010 01:34 PM (G5wsx)

Si - Ciaou.  What the fuck do I care?  I don't speak Mexican.

Posted by: Editor at October 22, 2010 09:35 AM (pUfK9)

49

@42 Romeo13 at October 22, 2010 01:31 PM (AdK6a)

I agree, hell they already know every fucking thing about U.S. citizens so we just add the others to the mix. Why is this so troubling for people ?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 22, 2010 09:35 AM (tuZ6Z)

50 Seattle is hopelessly Marxist. It should  not be mentioned. Ever.

Posted by: Barbarian at October 22, 2010 01:32 PM (EL+OC)

"The bluest skies you've ever seen are in Seattle And the hills the greenest green, in Seattle Like a beautiful child, growing up, free an' wild Full of hopes an' full of fears, full of laughter, full of tears  Full of dreams to last the years, in Seattle  . . . in Seattle!"

Yeah, well call me when you get in touch with reality.

Posted by: Harry at October 22, 2010 09:35 AM (xxgag)

51 I'm not trying to thread-jack here, but I'd like to have the final word on Juan Williams. What I heard that NPR cunt say was-- You think Juan would have been grateful, that's what you'd think--- The Progs are pissed at Juan, not for the Muslim stuff, but because he dared to try and improve his life, to make more money, to find a second job, to better himself and his family. They are pissed because he refuses to accept their view that this is all there is, that he should just stay down on the Prog plantation and be grateful to his betters for the crumb of a spot at NPR. His nascent capitalist streak is what got him canned, this was simply an excuse.

Posted by: White women with college degrees at October 22, 2010 09:36 AM (WAxE/)

52 22

honestly. why don't we start a campaign against mexico's elite and the elite in america that use illegals for cheap labor. why not impress upon mexicans that have had to leave their homeland to find survival at all? Why don't we lean on Mexico to do right by the citizens of their country.


Imperialist racist! We must serve penance of our nation's evil!

Posted by: Noam Chompsky at October 22, 2010 09:36 AM (cv5Iw)

53 Clinton: Nuclear codes? What nuclear codes?

http://tinyurl.com/29la6y8

Posted by: NunyaBizness at October 22, 2010 09:36 AM (GU6tG)

54 The republicans have a lot of shit to take care of. They better get to it and ignore the lamentations of the demotards.      Repeal Obamacare.
Nationwide "right to work"
Standards for voting.
Defund NPR.
A law to insure those who run for president meet the constitutional requirements.
 
That should take care of the first week.

Posted by: I can dream at October 22, 2010 09:36 AM (DYJjQ)

55 FYI... It is illegal in Seattle for any Seattle employee, including Seattle Police officers, to ask about immigration status.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 22, 2010 09:37 AM (C2//T)

56 What I really love is the one illegal lady saying that she is involved because "our" system is broken. Hey, sweet lady, you know what else is broken? "Our" border!

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at October 22, 2010 09:37 AM (x1CBb)

57 Hi, my name is Ace. I'd like to withdraw 5,000 from my account.

Posted by: kansas at October 22, 2010 09:37 AM (mka2b)

58 Yeah, but they're not illegal-illegal. That's right, Whoopi. Technically, it's not illegal to be illegal in Washington, DC.

Posted by: Martha Coakely, legal scholar & bed bug consultant at October 22, 2010 09:38 AM (4Kl5M)

59

How many states require to show ID?  I know my area does, and I do think its statewide(MI).  How the hell do WE have it and other more 'conservative' places dont? 

Posted by: Lt.Kilgore at October 22, 2010 09:39 AM (FIDMq)

60

Si - Ciaou.  What the fuck do I care?  I don't speak Mexican.

Exactly. You get more points for mucking it up. They won't learn our language. Why should you learn theirs?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 22, 2010 09:39 AM (pLTLS)

61 Fox News is trying to gin up hatred against brown people by rallying around Juan Williams.

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at October 22, 2010 09:40 AM (0IR+C)

62 A law to insure those who run for president meet the constitutional requirements.

Yeah, like I'm dumb enough to sign that.

Posted by: Barry the Magnificent at October 22, 2010 09:40 AM (Ew1k4)

63 The Libertarian in me wants to cringe... but... its time for a National ID Card tied to your Passport, Citizenship status, and drivers license, which MUST be shown to vote.

Talk about infringing on my rights to stomp all over your rights.

Posted by: Pedro Lopez, Tijuana at October 22, 2010 09:40 AM (mka2b)

64 OT but who cares: this from eddiebear's blog, but if true I wonder that we morons should watch the election night coverage at the ER so they can take care of us on the spot: "Make sure you stock up on alcohol because we're doing a shot every time a Republican wins an election."

Posted by: cali grump at October 22, 2010 09:41 AM (hL0k8)

65 In NM you give them your name and address and birth date and they check the voter rolls and give you a ballot.  This year, the voter rolls were computerized instead of a printout, which is a big jump forward.

Posted by: huerfano at October 22, 2010 09:41 AM (No0N3)

66 Hi, my name is Ace. I'd like to withdraw 5,000 from my account.

You want that in hobo hides or Valu Rite vodka?

Posted by: Ace's basement vault attendant at October 22, 2010 09:41 AM (tf9Ne)

67

Si - Ciaou.  What the fuck do I care?  I don't speak Mexican.

Exactly. You get more points for mucking it up. They won't learn our language. Why should you learn theirs?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 22, 2010 01:39 PM (pLTLS)

The only Mexican I know is "juetback."

Posted by: Harry at October 22, 2010 09:41 AM (xxgag)

68

maddogg get down here.

NOW:

 

BOXER 48%

FIORINA 46%

(RASMUSSEN)

Amongst voters CERTAIN of their vote:

BOXER 47%

FIORINA 51%

 

If this comes down to the wire (Boxer only has a 1.4% lead due to the PPIC poll showing her up 5 but thats with just 43% of the vote) here we will need every last one.

 

Though, for some strange reason, I think maybe we won't. Republicans are pumped, Democrats aren't that excited for the election here. Sure Obama will have a huge crowd- we are a state of 38 million people- but Boxer just doesn't do it for a lot of people now.

 

Wish I could say the same about Brown but I fear he will probably win.

Posted by: CAC at October 22, 2010 09:42 AM (lV4Fs)

69 Fuck a National ID card. Next thing will be a Goddam tatoo on your arm. A chip under your skin to identify you to the RF scanners, and maybe triangulation from space. No, fuck that.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:42 AM (OlN4e)

70 66 The Libertarian in me wants to cringe... but... its time for a National ID Card tied to your Passport, Citizenship status, and drivers license, which MUST be shown to vote.

Maybe not a National ID Card, but some form of identification.  You need to show ID for nearly everything these days, from using a credit card at the grocery store to getting into an airplane.  Why not require it for one of the most important civic duties a US citizen can do - vote?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 22, 2010 09:42 AM (9hSKh)

71

And I like that we're calling it 'Mexican' now.

Is that like Austrian? Is there Rosetta Stone for that?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 22, 2010 09:43 AM (pLTLS)

72 Roadking: We have a one significant party state in Washington. The voting is sufficiently concentrated that cheating in a single county (King County contains Seattle) can indeed influence the election. There were 3000 illegal votes (certified by the courts!) in the 2004 gubernatorial election. But the election results couldn't be adjusted because "we can't state with certainty for whom the individual illegal votes were cast."

That is, the secret ballot means that if you can cram your illegal ballot into the queue by hook or by crook, it still has to be counted.

It simply isn't possible for the state to clean up their own mess when the cheating is widespread enough to corrupt the process. And it is. The FBI and federal prosecutors in the 2004 election were handed a raft essentially slam-dunk cases and initially declined to examine them "Because it's a state issue." After everything blew up and the trial was finally over with nothing useful happening (although the judge did rule the ballots were illegally cast), they changed their tune. "We weren't presented anything questionable."

Posted by: Al at October 22, 2010 09:45 AM (MzQOZ)

73

maddogg get down here.

Sorry, my credentials are only good in Arkansas, and like I said, the GOP doesn't really need me down here, they just want people to know we are watching.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:46 AM (OlN4e)

74 You already have an I.D. card and all of your history to include earnings, health, criminal if any is at their finger tip.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 22, 2010 09:46 AM (tuZ6Z)

75

The only Mexican I know is "juetback."

Posted by: Harry at October 22, 2010 01:41 PM (xxgag)

Sal de mi jardin!

Posted by: Lt.Kilgore at October 22, 2010 09:46 AM (FIDMq)

76

And I like that we're calling it 'Mexican' now.

Is that like Austrian? Is there Rosetta Stone for that?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 22, 2010 01:43 PM

Spanish spoken by Mexicans and Spaniards are as different as English spoken by Americans and the English.  They can converse, but the colloquialisms are untranslatable.

Posted by: huerfano at October 22, 2010 09:47 AM (No0N3)

77 A Spanish teacher told my daughter she didn't speak Spanish, she was speaking Mexican.

Posted by: kansas at October 22, 2010 09:47 AM (mka2b)

78 77 You already have an I.D. card and all of your history to include earnings, health, criminal if any is at their finger tip.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 22, 2010 01:46 PM (tuZ6Z)

What they don't know about me is one hell of a lot.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:48 AM (OlN4e)

79

And I like that we're calling it 'Mexican' now.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 22, 2010 01:43 PM (pLTLS)

That was on purpose.  They don't speak Castellano South of the boarder. 

Posted by: Editor at October 22, 2010 09:48 AM (pUfK9)

80 Would it have to be a national ID card?  Couldn't we just have a federal law requiring state-issued photo ID be shown?  It seems to me that would be cheaper and faster since the state systems are already in place.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2010 09:51 AM (Ew1k4)

81 ace, people and money are two different things dont you know that. why would a person lie about who they are PROUD to be who they are and vote they vote for. Not just americans but hispanics dont be racist now. banks are another thing, we cant have people stealing each others money? And no americans might steal from the spanish too as I said dont be RACIST......

Posted by: palin steele at October 22, 2010 09:52 AM (SPXku)

82 83 Would it have to be a national ID card?  Couldn't we just have a federal law requiring state-issued photo ID be shown?  It seems to me that would be cheaper and faster since the state systems are already in place.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2010 01:51 PM (Ew1k4)

Exactly. Voting needs to be treated like a sacred right, reserved for citizens, not a tool to steal elections by the leftards.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 09:53 AM (OlN4e)

83 I am so glad that Fred Thompson's exposing CAIR's ass, following Frank Gaffney's lead in substantiating specific federal legalities CAIR has broken.

"One America", like CAIR, has also failed to register as representing foreign interests whose purpose is to alter US policy.

These activist illegal aliens should be arrested, not simply for violating immigration law, but for their overt activism to change US political decisions and influence US elections. AS IF these foreigner activists aren't themselves registered  illegitimately to vote already in our elections as Democratic authoritarian party members.

This episode blatantly illustrates which major party is worse between the given two evils.


Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 09:55 AM (H+LJc)

84

Maddogg,

What did you have to do to get credentials to poll watch?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 22, 2010 09:55 AM (tuZ6Z)

85
Pre-amnesty Americans- voting for the candidates Americans won't vote for!

Posted by: PC Williams at October 22, 2010 09:55 AM (rMMMP)

86 One America Votes+

Join USA to Mexico...what could go wrong?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 09:57 AM (H+LJc)

87 88

Maddogg,

What did you have to do to get credentials to poll watch?


Brandish a Glock and demand an ID ?


Posted by: Barbarian at October 22, 2010 09:57 AM (EL+OC)

88 Currently all it takes to have a State requirement for picture ID for voting is a program that issues ID cards to people at no cost.  That is what it took to get it through the courts.

We had a bill in the legislature for that that was waiting on the GA case to go to the Supremes. Well the GA case was adjudicated and picture ID voting requirements was ruled legal. 

That bill in our legislature is still hung up in committee in the legislature. That shows you how "Republican" our legislature is. They vote just like Dems who can not stand the thought of eliminating voter fraud.
 

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2010 09:59 AM (/jbAw)

89 Ain't it funny how all the Euroweenie and 3rd Worlders feel an obligation to interject themselves into our national election process as critics to tell us how to run our country?

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 22, 2010 10:01 AM (2g2ex)

90 Take a look at who holds  the record for money spent on 2010 elections by outside groups
according to the Wall St Journal and then wonder if these people really are working hard to make sure voters are actually US citizens only voting once?

Posted by: pagar at October 22, 2010 10:03 AM (UHIQO)

91 Only VOTING by illegals is illegal? How about being here? Which is why this will backfire on the idiot left. Just keep ramming it in our faces, dirtbags, how much contempt you have for this country, its laws, and the will of the people.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at October 22, 2010 10:04 AM (kTTUz)

92

Maddogg,

What did you have to do to get credentials to poll watch?

I went through a training session put on by the GOP. They gave me a folder with pertinent information and  the things we may challenge a voter on, and information I am to keep track of and relay to the party. If I spot a serious problem, a list of phone numbers to bring down a car load of help. Then I was given credentials authorizing me to be a registered poll watcher for the GOP. Details they told me to keep secret.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 10:05 AM (OlN4e)

93 They don't speak Castellano South of the boarder.

/Nor Castilian.

Trivia, as the global Spanish Empire legacy, Spanish is the second most natively spoken language in the world, after Mandarin Chinese.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 10:06 AM (H+LJc)

94 I think the current D's have as much insight into what is going on out there in the USA as Bush did right before the 2006 election.. they have no idea how mad people are at the road the country is on going 75 miles per hour. good news for us! Juan Williams story is still playing VERY BIG , a sweet run on Good Morning America with George Stephanopolis , on talk radio 24/7 here in the boston/nh market. more good news... and NPR fired Juan during their fundraising week!!! CEO of NPR made bad mistake saying Juan needed to speak with a shrink...on tape! Yippee! Peeps will LOVE that, you are crazy if you are fearful of Muslim extremists. more good news.

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at October 22, 2010 10:08 AM (Ki7fm)

95 maddog,

Anything substantiating the voter's Gadsden pin brouhaha?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 10:08 AM (H+LJc)

96

Can anybody put this moron some f'n knowledge?  Other that the fact that this is liberal shithole Seattle, why isn't anyone picking up the phone to call ICE and tell them there's a whole lot of felons roaming the streets ready to be picked up?

Other than that it's liberal shithole Seattle. . .I think I answered my own damn question.  Fucking November can't get here soon enough.

Posted by: Christopher at October 22, 2010 10:11 AM (zF6Iw)

97 48 I am a Poll watcher for the GOP. They don't really need me here, but they really, really need poll watchers in Seattle, California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and probably Nevada.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 01:34 PM (OlN4e)

Just yesterday I had a robocall from the Santa Fe County Republican Committee asking for volunteers.

Posted by: NM Hick at October 22, 2010 10:12 AM (IzuWw)

98 99 maddog,

Anything substantiating the voter's Gadsden pin brouhaha?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 02:08 PM (H+LJc)

You cannot wear or display in any fashion anything promoting any political cause, person or party. That is legally electioneering, and they won't let you vote. That included pins, tee shirts, caps, everything.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 10:12 AM (OlN4e)

99
That bill in our legislature is still hung up in committee in the legislature. That shows you how "Republican" our legislature is. They vote just like Dems who can not stand the thought of eliminating voter fraud. --Posted by: Vic

The Texas Legislature convenes biennially. Last round, as before, Republicans had the bill prepared and argued. Gov.Perry allowed the Voter ID bill placed LAST on the list of bills for a vote both in session and again in special session. It never came to a vote before the legislature conveniently disbanded, again.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 10:13 AM (H+LJc)

100 maddogg

I haven't been trained to poll watch, so the double check on state law. But that was my argument supporting the Texas law @ HotAir the other day.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 10:17 AM (H+LJc)

101 Other than that it's liberal shithole Seattle. . .

Napolitano's regime would scoop you up for exhibiting radical xenophobic antipathy for those who are different, DISTINCTIVELY NOT US CITIZENS.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 10:21 AM (H+LJc)

102 I haven't been trained to poll watch, so the double check on state law. But that was my argument supporting the Texas law @ HotAir the other day.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 22, 2010 02:17 PM (H+LJc)

When fishing for volunteers to poll watch, they tell you there is nothing to it. Piece of cake. But there is a shitload of things you have to do and keep track of, and you are looking at a 14 hour day to do an election right.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 10:22 AM (OlN4e)

103 83 Would it have to be a national ID card?  Couldn't we just have a federal law requiring state-issued photo ID be shown?  It seems to me that would be cheaper and faster since the state systems are already in place.

Posted by: Methos at October 22, 2010 01:51 PM (Ew1k4)

Some States issue drivers licenses to Illegals... so IMO there needs to be some form of check on citizenship status as well... and as long as we are doing that anyway, may as well make it your passport...

Right now we have a bunch of IDs for different things... while none of them are solving the problem of Identity theft, or voter fraud... I'm just suggesting that we pull those already existing databases together...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 22, 2010 10:24 AM (AdK6a)

104 I have worked every election for which I have been in the country since 1982 (10 years in the Navy meant I missed a few, but none since Clinton-Dole), and I have been a Range Inspector for our county (here in California) for the past several years, but I am giving that up this time to serve as a Poll-Watcher this year, just to make sure that nothing like that happens on my watch. I will be covering as much territory as I can manage, armed with cell phone, camera and 100' measuring tape.

My wife is concerned enough that she will be doing the same thing in our other car, just so we can cover twice as many spots.

Not on MY watch.
Molon Labe.

Posted by: Drumwaster at October 22, 2010 10:34 AM (dWFSK)

105

You cannot wear or display in any fashion anything promoting any political cause, person or party. That is legally electioneering, and they won't let you vote. That included pins, tee shirts, caps, everything.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 02:12 PM (OlN4e)

Well, a judge said just that she is allowed to vote.   That shirt does not promote a specific party.

Posted by: Steph at October 22, 2010 10:34 AM (ZfkPl)

106

Well, a judge said just that she is allowed to vote.   That shirt does not promote a specific party.

Posted by: Steph at October 22, 2010 02:34 PM (ZfkPl)

She wouldn't vote here. Everybody knows what that pin means. She would be asked to leave, remove it, and come back without it. And as a TEA party member, a GOP member and a poll watcher, I would agree with that.

Posted by: maddogg at October 22, 2010 10:38 AM (OlN4e)

107 I got into an argument with a poll watcher who was wearing a "NOW" (Nat'l Org of Wymyn) button, and I told her to remove it, because they had come out and publicly advocated several issues on that election's ballots.

She argued. I won.

Posted by: Drumwaster at October 22, 2010 10:40 AM (dWFSK)

108 Some States issue drivers licenses to Illegals... so IMO there needs to be some form of check on citizenship status as well... and as long as we are doing that anyway, may as well make it your passport...

The States that do that will NEVER have voter ID anyway.  They are libtard hell.

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2010 10:41 AM (/jbAw)

109 So walking around the polling place in an immigration t-shirt would be considered illegal?

Posted by: Jean at October 22, 2010 10:43 AM (omcBI)

110

"Our broken immigration system."

Nice touch.

Posted by: Michael at October 22, 2010 10:44 AM (FC2+c)

111 So walking around the polling place in an immigration t-shirt would be considered illegal?

Yes. Anywhere within 100' of the room (the room, not the doors)

Posted by: Drumwaster at October 22, 2010 10:44 AM (dWFSK)

112

I'm willing to bet they were handing out Patty Murray brochures.  Good old King county was part of Maria Cantwell's victory as well as the fiasco with the governor's race.

I saw a picture on the front page of the Seattle Times website with a picture of a proud illegal alien making calls at a local phone bank.

Laws, what laws.  We don't need no stinkin' laws.

Posted by: hippieforlife at October 22, 2010 10:48 AM (sGtp+)

113 Seems like an opportunity to go after the canvassing entity and its financier.

Candidate A to Candidate B: Do you hire criminals to operate your campaign? Do you accept the endorsement/behavior of (illegal) canvassers working on your behalf? Do you a) retain the hire of canvassers when you have been given notice of their use of illegals, and b) do you report their criminology to ICE?

Just because individual canvassers can escape deep scrutiny doesn't mean the politician benefiting from them can too. The question is which law-abiding politician is willing to make the charge public when it is discovered that illegals are working on behalf of the opposition. It used to be one couldn't. I don't believe the reticence to be a valid concern anymore. Legal Americans are perpetually pissed off about illegal aliens in our midst despite what the MFM/PC crowd crows.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 22, 2010 10:51 AM (swuwV)

114

@95: "Only VOTING by illegals is illegal? How about being here? Which is why this will backfire on the idiot left. Just keep ramming it in our faces, dirtbags, how much contempt you have for this country, its laws, and the will of the people."

Nothing the Left does ever backfires on them in the long term.  A small short term cost, maybe, but never long term.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 22, 2010 11:02 AM (xy9wk)

115 *ahem* Is there gonna be a meeting of Seattle morons on election day, or am I gonna have to wipe the floor with you mugs?! Seattle! Morons! Meeting! Beer! Right now! Plan it!

Posted by: Enochf at October 22, 2010 11:12 AM (N9eP5)

116 Strangely enough, here in Liberal Heaven/Conservative Hell, aka New York, they do the voting thing well (in my county, anyway).  Before you vote, you show Photo ID, and then you must Sign Your Name in the registration book.  This book has your name, home address, and a facsimile of your signature.  They match your signature with the one on the ID card (usually a Driver's License or state-issued ID for those who don't drive), and then you Must Sign Your Name right below the facsimile signature.  That's some weapons-grade anti fraud stuff, at least in regard to voting on Election Day.  We also use those clunky old mechanical machines (made in Jamestown, NY, btw) that are hard to tamper with, as it has a hard-copy paper print out.

Posted by: Bob S at October 22, 2010 01:41 PM (izA2D)

Posted by: akven at October 23, 2010 08:54 PM (CcEvM)

118 What surprises me is that any conservative following the reign of King Obama is surprised by any of the stuff going on.  In a kingdom the king IS THE LAW and can change or eliminate them at any time.  Something being done illegally but not being prosecuted makes it legal.

I think the GOP should propose a law (once we take Congress) that people withdrawing money from banks should not have to show identification -- merely sign their name.

You have to have money in an account to be able to withdraw it, unless you are the Federal government.  How many people still have money in an account?  Let's get the money in their account first.

Posted by: Smorgasbord at October 24, 2010 06:58 PM (eZjuD)

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