June 18, 2010
— Gabriel Malor Starting in just five minutes, it's our second match. The largest nation in the tournament (us) faces the itty-bittiest (Slovenia).

If we lose this match, we're out and won't be moving on to the Round of 16. If we draw, the next match will be a nail-biter. If we win, w00t.
Slovenia, which wears distinctive striped jerseys that resemble Charlie Brown's shirts, pretty much views the United States the way the Americans look at soccer powers. At the World Cup for just the second time, the Slovenes are ranked 25th, 11 spots behind the U.S.Slovenia is seeking to follow its opening 1-0 win over Algeria with a victory that would be received here with cries of "Ayoba," a South African expression used for surprising events.
Midfielder Andrej Komac doesn't think a Slovene win would be so surprising. He boldly predicted victory, prompting U.S. goalkeeper Tim Howard to respond: "Talk is cheap."
Howard, by the way, is okay to play after taking a kick to the ribs during the England match. Our guys will be in away-game blue.
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Posted by: beedubya at June 18, 2010 05:58 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: EC at June 18, 2010 05:59 AM (mAhn3)
Posted by: beedubya at June 18, 2010 06:00 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: The Indonesian Imbecile at June 18, 2010 06:01 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 06:07 AM (z4es9)
Posted by: CDR M at June 18, 2010 06:07 AM (BuYeH)
Posted by: Shrek at June 18, 2010 06:13 AM (ZESU0)
Posted by: lincolntf at June 18, 2010 06:13 AM (TPEo9)
"If we lose this match, we're out and won't be moving on to the Round of 16."
Great, let's end this thing here!
Posted by: Sean at June 18, 2010 06:13 AM (9Gi0o)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at June 18, 2010 06:13 AM (HpT9p)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 18, 2010 06:16 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: lincolntf at June 18, 2010 06:16 AM (TPEo9)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 18, 2010 06:18 AM (zk7AY)
Posted by: beedubya at June 18, 2010 09:58 AM (AnTyA)
Well, 52% are absolute idiots.
Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2010 06:20 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: huerfano at June 18, 2010 06:20 AM (rqC5o)
Posted by: Vergeltung at June 18, 2010 06:21 AM (jttPx)
(NewsCore) - A German soccer fan is being treated for an ear injury supposedly inflicted by a vuvuzela, Germany's Bild reported Thursday.
Sven Wipperfurth suffered pain and hearing loss after an anonymous trumpeter unleashed a blast from the controversial instrument right next to his ear Sunday.
He's been off work sick since and is on medication for tinnitus -- a constant ringing in the ears -- after doctors diagnosed what could be the worldÂ’s first case of a vuvuvela-inflicted injury, the German tabloid said.
---"It was so loud that I winced," Wipperfurth told Bild. "These devilÂ’s trumpets must be banned!"
Posted by: Cal-res Johanssen, Official Bicycle Seat of the Obama Administration at June 18, 2010 06:22 AM (9XOWS)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 06:24 AM (z4es9)
Posted by: 48%er at June 18, 2010 06:24 AM (OThQg)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 18, 2010 06:24 AM (QBQcg)
Posted by: Paladin at June 18, 2010 06:24 AM (WGbtD)
Posted by: Hank Hill at June 18, 2010 06:26 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 06:27 AM (0GFWk)
@ 48%er at June 18, 2010 10:24 AM (OThQg)
No it's not.
Keep calm.
Play with a fast ball curiculation to outfox slovenia and the chances will come.
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 06:28 AM (JS+7s)
If we draw, the next match will be a nail-biter.
The words "soccer" and "nail-biter" are mutually exclusive terms. And that old grizzled gym coach was always right.
Posted by: angryoldfatman at June 18, 2010 06:29 AM (Yw4kE)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 06:30 AM (0GFWk)
"They just showed a fat guy, real fat, without a shirt drinking a brewski. I am not sure what side he was rooting for?"
Did he have a unibrow and a goat's milk mustache?
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 18, 2010 06:31 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: Slovenian in the Hizzouse. at June 18, 2010 06:31 AM (TPEo9)
I dunno. I was at the Womens Olympic gold medal match in '96 (USA vs China) and it was one of the most exciting sporting events I've ever been to. And I'm not normally a soccer fan.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 06:32 AM (z4es9)
The United States team plays like unmedicated schizophrenics coached by medicated schizophrenics
A gynecologist buddy told me every vuvuzela is different.
Posted by: Beto at June 18, 2010 06:34 AM (j5CHE)
@ Shrek at June 18, 2010 10:29 AM (ZESU0)
He cares enough to complain about an already lost game.
You are a patriot rooting for the opponents of the USA?
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 06:35 AM (JS+7s)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 06:37 AM (0GFWk)
Go Molvania!!! The Brzezk Daycare has 25 cartons of cigarettes riding on this game!
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 18, 2010 06:38 AM (DPM1U)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 06:39 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Pecos Bill at June 18, 2010 06:39 AM (8WOM0)
You are a patriot rooting for the opponents of the USA?
Posted by: gdg
I would have to care to be rooting for opponents of the USA, yes?
Posted by: Shrek at June 18, 2010 06:39 AM (ZESU0)
Posted by: An old priest and a young priest at June 18, 2010 06:39 AM (+FkcS)
Posted by: Paladin at June 18, 2010 06:40 AM (WGbtD)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at June 18, 2010 06:40 AM (eCAn3)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 06:41 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Da C.I.A. at June 18, 2010 06:41 AM (5OEl9)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 10:41 AM (0GFWk)
did he say "Let me be clear, I inherited that call from the previous ref"?
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at June 18, 2010 06:41 AM (eCAn3)
Posted by: Barbarian at June 18, 2010 06:42 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 06:42 AM (0GFWk)
Slovenia -- gheyest after goal dance ever.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 18, 2010 06:42 AM (DPM1U)
Posted by: Spank at June 18, 2010 06:43 AM (xO+6C)
Posted by: huh at June 18, 2010 06:43 AM (+ABdJ)
the taliban and shrek are cheering !
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 10:42 AM (JS+7s)
Yeah, the taliban are huge fans of Christians from the Balkans.
Posted by: Shrek at June 18, 2010 06:44 AM (ZESU0)
Not fair. By telling me this -- and holding out the prospect of reduced tv coverage -- I am compelled to root for a loss.
Posted by: Y-not at June 18, 2010 06:45 AM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 06:46 AM (0GFWk)
Shouldn't we have sent Peyton Manning, Larry Fitzgerald, Adrian Peterson and other recognizable players instead of these no-name guys?
Not to mention Patrick Kane and Ryan Miller...
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 18, 2010 06:46 AM (DPM1U)
Well, Gabe made the post, point made?
Thank GOD the stupid NBA is over for the year. The thugs can go back to their blonde bimbos and leave us alone.
Please God get us to Football ASAP, I am sick of these weenie sports.
Posted by: Kemp at June 18, 2010 06:48 AM (vSiVD)
Hard to tell if they're real blonds because they shave their vuvuzelas
Posted by: Beto at June 18, 2010 06:50 AM (j5CHE)
Team USA is right on track. That was a perfectly played half, just the way I drew it up and asked them to play it. This 5-2 win will be so exciting that 37 more Americans will watch their next game and actually cheer for them.
Posted by: Pele at June 18, 2010 06:51 AM (nBE5A)
Is it worth my while to drive up to DC to see Strasburg pitch against the Sox?
Then again, Obama will no doubt be there rooting on his favorite team, so maybe I'll take in Sunday's game.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 18, 2010 06:52 AM (DPM1U)
Posted by: Paladin at June 18, 2010 06:53 AM (WGbtD)
Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at June 18, 2010 06:53 AM (jQveR)
Posted by: jjshaka at June 18, 2010 06:53 AM (iknVB)
Never thought of that, hate to cheer against USA, but if it will get Ghey soccer off the TV, maybe I should.
Posted by: Kemp at June 18, 2010 06:56 AM (vSiVD)
Posted by: VoteOutIncumbents at June 18, 2010 06:57 AM (DezMz)
Posted by: changer1701 at June 18, 2010 06:57 AM (xktXL)
In other news that won't be news -- Individual Mandate IS a tax.
FREE HEALTH CARE! other than higher taxes you must all now pay...
In order to protect the new national health care law from legal challenges, the Obama administration has been forced to argue that the individual mandate represents a tax -- even though Obama himself argued the exact opposite while campaigning to pass the legislation.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 18, 2010 06:58 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: jjshaka at June 18, 2010 06:59 AM (iknVB)
Posted by: CDR M at June 18, 2010 06:59 AM (Mv/2X)
Posted by: william at June 18, 2010 07:00 AM (CSh9B)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:01 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:01 AM (0GFWk)
What, there are no options for you except to watch TV?
Posted by: Shrek at June 18, 2010 07:02 AM (ZESU0)
Posted by: Ken Royall at June 18, 2010 07:02 AM (9zzk+)
Posted by: JDW at June 18, 2010 07:02 AM (uw+0A)
Soccer sucks. Nobody important cares.
It's a "small person" sport, as Carl-Henric Svanberg might say.
Slovenia ... would be received here with cries of "Ayoba," a South African expression
Um... .why? No - don't answer that. I don't care.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 07:03 AM (IsLT6)
Posted by: Da C.I.A. at June 18, 2010 07:05 AM (5OEl9)
Posted by: kansas at June 18, 2010 07:05 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:05 AM (0GFWk)
I'd bet the farm on the hooligans. They plan their fights.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 07:06 AM (z4es9)
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at June 18, 2010 07:06 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:07 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: 48%er at June 18, 2010 07:08 AM (OThQg)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at June 18, 2010 07:09 AM (QBQcg)
Ever watch golf on TV? It's like watching flies fuck!
Posted by: George Carlin at June 18, 2010 07:09 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:10 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:11 AM (0GFWk)
Things to like.
Posted by: Ever the optimist, gazing at a half ull glass of val-u-rite at June 18, 2010 07:12 AM (uFdnM)
Remember when Eddie LaBeck stopped those 24 shots on goal?
Yea that was great....too bad he let those other 42 get by.
Posted by: Paladin at June 18, 2010 07:13 AM (WGbtD)
Posted by: Da C.I.A. at June 18, 2010 07:15 AM (5OEl9)
No word on whether nubile Dutch blondes in orange miniskirts are allowed.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 18, 2010 07:15 AM (LUllJ)
@ Old grizzled gym coach
No, I'm compairing the bitching of code pink against team USA about a game they don't like.
Thats all, like some here are convinced soccer is some kind of commie conspiracy.
Whehehe, it is sometimes amusing and I know it is not that serious but some really seem to mean it.
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 07:16 AM (JS+7s)
Posted by: Ever the optimist, gazing at a half ull glass of val-u-rite at June 18, 2010 07:16 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 18, 2010 07:18 AM (T0bhq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:19 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at June 18, 2010 07:20 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:20 AM (0GFWk)
Whehehe, it is sometimes amusing and I know it is not that serious but some really seem to mean it.
Posted by: gdg
In other words, you really are that tone deaf and immune to the notion you may be the only one here who take the World Cup seriously.
Posted by: Shrek at June 18, 2010 07:21 AM (ZESU0)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 07:21 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Luca Brasi at June 18, 2010 07:21 AM (YmPwQ)
Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity - hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then...walking after it! And then, hitting it again! I say "Pick it up asshole, you're lucky you found the fucking thing! Put it in your pocket and go home, you're a winner, you're a winner! You found it!".
Posted by: George Carlin at June 18, 2010 07:21 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:22 AM (0GFWk)
Wow. More of this "soccer is for sissies" crap. Is that more childish than "then kick this sissie's ass, dickhead!"?
Posted by: Chuck Norris at June 18, 2010 07:23 AM (nBE5A)
@ Shrek at June 18, 2010 11:21 AM
Some seem to think it is a commie conspiracy.
I hate commies and like soccer.
A few brains are exploding as we speak.
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 07:23 AM (JS+7s)
Gawd, I hate to see him struggle like this. I have always liked Tiger and I used to take glee in listening to the whine of tour pros yearning for just a piece of the fame and fortune he gets. Tool up, or shut up boys.
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at June 18, 2010 07:24 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2010 07:25 AM (7b1Uc)
Vuvuzela too loud? Wait for the kuduzela
Football fans worried that blasts from the vuvuzela could damage their hearing have been warned that an even louder horn - the kuduzela - could soon be appearing in stadiums around the world.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 18, 2010 07:26 AM (9hSKh)
Yes, you look cute in your new gown and those shoes are very sexy. No, I don't doubt for one moment that you saved a lot of money. Now, why isn't my dinner on the table?
Posted by: Chris Christie at June 18, 2010 07:26 AM (ZESU0)
IIRC it used to be, however, since some of the HotAir and ONT people started showing up....well...
Posted by: Barbarian at June 18, 2010 07:26 AM (EL+OC)
Boring is one thing. But pussies? Geez.
Posted by: Chuck Norris at June 18, 2010 07:26 AM (nBE5A)
Wow. More of this "soccer is for sissies" crap. Is that more childish than "then kick this sissie's ass, dickhead!"?
I agree.
Posted by: The kid that wears his sisters nighties at June 18, 2010 07:28 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2010 07:28 AM (ZESU0)
You can't get a motel room within 50 miles during the summer.
Posted by: Ed Anger at June 18, 2010 07:29 AM (7+pP9)
Soon they'll be bringing V-8 powered air raid sirens to games.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 18, 2010 07:30 AM (LUllJ)
Well, it seems there are some willing to defend soccer's SACRED HONOR.
Moron's from South Carolina? whoda thunk it!
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 18, 2010 07:30 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at June 18, 2010 07:31 AM (y/+ik)
http://tinyurl.com/2feke9a
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 18, 2010 07:31 AM (snlsw)
Posted by: Jean at June 18, 2010 07:31 AM (3Ds00)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2010 11:25 AM (7b1Uc)
Yup. Lesson learned is don't touch the remote.
Posted by: CDR M at June 18, 2010 07:32 AM (y67bA)
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 07:33 AM (UMwMT)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 18, 2010 07:34 AM (T0bhq)
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 11:33 AM
That sounds suspiciously like Duke basketball.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2010 07:34 AM (ZESU0)
I want my mommy!
Posted by: Footballer! at June 18, 2010 07:35 AM (UMwMT)
Up next: Breathless articles in all the usual places on how 2014 COULD BE THE TURNING POINT FOR U.S. SOCCER.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2010 07:35 AM (+BcQ3)
Posted by: Retread at June 18, 2010 07:40 AM (mMBYD)
Posted by: Da C.I.A. at June 18, 2010 07:40 AM (5OEl9)
That's simply not true. He just spent his dough on the right stuff.
Posted by: Eighteen gals, one with a lot of tattoos, with sought after vaginas at June 18, 2010 07:40 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:40 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 07:43 AM (z4es9)
Those blockheads!
Posted by: Lucy van Pelt at June 18, 2010 07:43 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:44 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 11:44 AM (wuv1c)
Hobo porn is a sport?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 07:45 AM (5aa4z)
Even if you hate soccer, this could be turning into a pretty exciting story
no. no it can't. The sooner america is out of this tourney, the sooner ESPN and other networks stop trying to shove this god awful excuse of a sport down our throats.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 07:46 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 18, 2010 07:47 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:47 AM (0GFWk)
no. no it can't. The sooner america is out of this tourney, the sooner ESPN and other networks stop trying to shove this god awful excuse of a sport down our throats.
Damn. Just when I was starting to get into it.
Posted by: 48%er at June 18, 2010 07:48 AM (OThQg)
Posted by: Rep. Barton at June 18, 2010 07:48 AM (pUfK9)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:48 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Da C.I.A. at June 18, 2010 07:48 AM (5OEl9)
That's a little strong. Seems to me there are a lot of people interested.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 07:48 AM (z4es9)
Posted by: soccer-hatin athiest guy at June 18, 2010 07:48 AM (ZESU0)
Posted by: The guy that hears annoying buzzing in his living room at June 18, 2010 07:49 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: Y-not
Word. I leave for Pebble around 7am tomorrow morning... have tickets for Saturday and Sunday.
Posted by: Terry at June 18, 2010 07:49 AM (+7Usq)
Word. I leave for Pebble around 7am tomorrow morning... have tickets for Saturday and Sunday.
Posted by: Terry at June 18, 2010 11:49 AM (+7Usq)
Leave your wife at home if she's white. Trust me.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 07:52 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Farmer
Besides, what are they going to put on ESPN 8 instead, anyway?
I'm always down with us beating Euros at anything.
Posted by: Terry at June 18, 2010 07:52 AM (+7Usq)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 07:53 AM (z4es9)
Will you be knitting on the sideline?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 18, 2010 07:53 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 07:53 AM (UMwMT)
Leave your wife at home if she's white. Trust me.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz
No way... my clubs will be in the trunk...if she gets hooked up I'll go play!
Posted by: Terry at June 18, 2010 07:53 AM (+7Usq)
Hm. I must have missed the news about the squads of gunmen going around forcing people to watch soccer at 10 am.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 07:54 AM (z4es9)
no. no it can't. The sooner america is out of this tourney, the sooner ESPN and other networks stop trying to shove this god awful excuse of a sport down our throats.
That's a little strong. Seems to me there are a lot of people interested.
I would bet that 50 percent of the people "interested" in the world cup are watching for two reasons.
1. The spectacle.
2. They're nationalists who want america to win at everything.
Every world cup or olympics we are told by the media that soccer is coming to america and everytime nothing comes of it..
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 07:54 AM (wuv1c)
Yeah. On the headlines thread one is trying to pick a fight with Ace over the Barton comments.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 18, 2010 07:55 AM (7b1Uc)
Posted by: joncelli at June 18, 2010 07:55 AM (RD7QR)
Hm. I must have missed the news about the squads of gunmen going around forcing people to watch soccer at 10 am.
He's weak minded. If it's on TV it means he must watch it. Or something.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 18, 2010 07:56 AM (IkTb7)
Posted by: HeatherRadish
Golf doesn't have a sideline, but if it did, at Pebble the sideline would be the most beautiful stretch of coastline in California, so I'll probably go with a nice refreshing beverage rather than knitting.
Posted by: Terry at June 18, 2010 07:56 AM (+7Usq)
208 181 Ghey, unless your team won the Superbowl.
Or when they win the Stanley Cup for the 1st time.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 18, 2010 07:56 AM (Yq+qN)
fuck soccer and the assholes trying to shove it down our throats.
Hm. I must have missed the news about the squads of gunmen going around forcing people to watch soccer at 10 am.
i think he is refering to the over coverage. ESPN, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc are all pushing soccer. They always do. There has been more coverage of the world cup than the stanley cup playoffs, yet more Americans are fans of hockey than soccer.
He isn't being literal with the "craming it down our throats", but the non stop coverage of a sport that draws little interest in america is excessive.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 07:56 AM (wuv1c)
Leave your wife at home if she's white. Trust me.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz
No way... my clubs will be in the trunk...if she gets hooked up I'll go play!
Posted by: Terry at June 18, 2010 11:53 AM (+7Usq)
Oh, well if that's the case, you should be hoping Tiger shoots better than he did yesterday, or he won't even be around Saturday and Sunday.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 07:56 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 07:56 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:56 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 07:57 AM (wuv1c)
Now, Monty - they all get a gold star for trying!!
Think of their self-esteem!
Posted by: TXMarko at June 18, 2010 07:58 AM (Wl1KM)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 07:59 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 18, 2010 07:59 AM (Yq+qN)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 07:59 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: 13times at June 18, 2010 07:59 AM (6feTt)
Posted by: 48%er at June 18, 2010 11:54 AM
-----
It means USA has a real chance of getting to the next round.
Winning against algeria muslims.
The taliban won't like that, that's for sure.
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 07:59 AM (JS+7s)
Posted by: Jean at June 18, 2010 08:00 AM (1vx4q)
Posted by: The guy that springs wood while watching "ties" on buzzing TV at June 18, 2010 08:00 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 11:56 AM (0GFWk)
See, now, I consider that to be fairly bad. So, it appears a tie is not healthy.
Posted by: Editor at June 18, 2010 08:00 AM (pUfK9)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 08:00 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 08:00 AM (5aa4z)
He's weak minded. If it's on TV it means he must
watch it.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor
You watch it on TV.
Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: The Lead Prosecutor of the Case Against World Cup Soccer at June 18, 2010 08:01 AM (ZESU0)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 08:01 AM (0GFWk)
Did you think this was a playoff game? In elimination games, they'd have played extra time, then had a penalty shoot-out if necessary.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:01 AM (5LYVy)
I'd be interested to see the ratings numbers.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at June 18, 2010 08:01 AM (z4es9)
Posted by: Da C.I.A. at June 18, 2010 08:01 AM (5OEl9)
"Further -- any game that even allows a zero-zero tie is a waste of time."
American football is a waste of time?
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 18, 2010 08:02 AM (lE7cq)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 12:00 PM (wuv1c)
They flip a hooligan.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 08:02 AM (5aa4z)
Pistols at ten paces.
Then, a team gets to win, and as a bonus there are fewer soccer players.
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 08:03 AM (UMwMT)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 08:03 AM (4Pleu)
http://tinyurl.com/2feke9a
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 18, 2010 11:31 AM (snlsw)
Treason and total hate of our Constitution isn't important. Especially when it happens in a foreign land.
I am still ticked that conservative pundits haven't been able to explain to the douchebags that Arizona isn't making any sort of "immigration law", only identifying those who are allowed here under current law. The lefties keep claiming that Arizona is infringing on Congress' power to establish uniform laws of naturalization, but not one conservative (that I have heard) has pointed out that Arizona is neither trying to change the citizenship/residency status of anyone, nor deporting anyone.
But ... there's no logic or reason left in our political discourse. The left just screams the most transparent and ridiculous lies one could imagine and the right (the GOP leadership and our squishy pundits) lets them. When one finally nails the left for their deceit and criminality, the GOP throws a shit-fit. Better that no one mentions Shrillary's traitorous and insane comments in a foreign land, since that might just make some on the right explain what it really means and that would embarrass the GOP and the squishes.
I'm just waiting for this nation to split, now. It is beyond repair at this point.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 18, 2010 08:03 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: someguy at June 18, 2010 08:04 AM (VmtE9)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 08:04 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 12:01 PM (0GFWk)
Just about as far North as you can be without being a dirty fake-American Canadian.
Posted by: Editor at June 18, 2010 08:04 AM (pUfK9)
i think he is refering to the over coverage. ESPN, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc are all pushing soccer. They always do. There has been more coverage of the world cup than the stanley cup playoffs, yet more Americans are fans of hockey than soccer.
I'd be interested to see the ratings numbers.
Considering it is on mid day, I can't imagine they are great. I am also willing to bet that they drop dramatically here in America when the US team loses its way out of the tourney.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 08:04 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: joncelli at June 18, 2010 08:05 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 08:05 AM (4Pleu)
They settle it with a round of rochambeau.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 18, 2010 08:05 AM (LUllJ)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 12:04 PM (4Pleu)
There's never been a 0-0 tie, to the best of my knowledge. Last tie was Bengals-Eagles in 2008.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 08:05 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 08:05 AM (0GFWk)
I'll be back when our soccer team isn't the biggest embarrassment in American sports.
Posted by: kencaminiti at June 18, 2010 08:06 AM (9dKHd)
Besides, sometimes teams are equally matched, or so close that no distinction should be made. Unless absolutely necessary, it's better to issue a point each than to have some bogus NFL-style parody of the game decide who gets the points, while an equal team gets nothing from it.
80% of your life is a draw, if you're lucky. Learning to eek out a draw is a valuable life skill that shouldn't be overlooked.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:07 AM (5LYVy)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 08:07 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: joncelli at June 18, 2010 08:07 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 08:07 AM (UMwMT)
Or eliminate basketball, and they could just show H-O-R-S-E! If all we want to see is the ball going through the hoop...
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:08 AM (5LYVy)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 08:08 AM (0GFWk)
SVN 2:2 USA.
I get that America is just another country these days, no better and no worse than any other country, but this illustration is extreme.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 18, 2010 08:09 AM (cQyWA)
Look, soccer has to allow ties, by its nature. Some of these guys are running 7 miles a game, sprinting a lot of it. You can't just have them play until they score a tie-breaking goal -- you'd have guys dying on the pitch.
Why not skip the game entirely and call it a tie?
And what's a pitch? don't bring that soccer lingo on this blog.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 08:09 AM (wuv1c)
Again with this canard. 7 miles in 1.5 hours is 4.6 mph, which is barely a mild jog.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 18, 2010 08:10 AM (LUllJ)
They settle it with a round of rochambeau.
LMFAO. Priceless. Maybe they should do something less injurious. Measure the girth of their nutsacks, winner moves on.
Posted by: The guy that springs wood while watching at June 18, 2010 08:10 AM (uFdnM)
A pitch is when a guy like Joel Zumaya fires a 101 mph fastball past a hitter.
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 08:10 AM (UMwMT)
From your mouth to God's ears!
Posted by: The Detroit Lions at June 18, 2010 08:10 AM (HpT9p)
Slovenia people. We tied Slovenia.
I am willing to bet most of you can't point to Slovenia on a map. Hell its only been an independent country for about 15 years.
We couldn't beat Yugoslovia's top hat.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 08:11 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 12:07 PM (UMwMT)
...and tetherball, hopscotch, marbles, synchronized swimming, hide and seek....
Posted by: someguy at June 18, 2010 08:11 AM (VmtE9)
How does a team move on when everyone in the division(conference, bracket, whatever) is tied?
They settle it with a round of rochambeau.
LMFAO. Priceless. Maybe they should do something less injurious. Measure the girth of their nutsacks, winner moves on.
round robin potato sack race.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 08:12 AM (wuv1c)
So? The fans kill each other in the stands and no one seems to mind. The fans also assault the players on the field, so I can't see how making them run some more is worse than that.
-->Besides, sometimes teams are equally matched, or so close that no distinction should be made. Unless absolutely necessary, it's better to issue a point each than to have some bogus NFL-style parody of the game decide who gets the points, while an equal team gets nothing from it.
Games aren't played so that only the better team wins. If that were true, most of the games wouldn't need to be played at all. Games are played to establish a winner that day.
-->80% of your life is a draw, if you're lucky. Learning to eek out a draw is a valuable life skill that shouldn't be overlooked.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 12:07 PM (5LYVy)
Who watches soccer to see their personal "life score" played out? And, if you take that angle, what in life disallows use of your hands? It was opposable thumbs that lifted Man above apes, but soccer hates thumbs and penalizes you for using them. Life lesson?
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 18, 2010 08:13 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 12:00
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The one who scored the most goals.
What a lot of people don't seem to know is that
a win gives you 3 points
a tie 1 point
You have to tie three times to make up for a win.
I admit soccer sometimes is or looks boring but the winnig or losing of yards is exactly the same as american football but it is a contiuing process.
If you look at it that way it's the same as football without the commercial breaks. So it is not that boring after all. Commercial breaks are boring.
Soccer needs a few things a stopped clock a video ref and a little larger goal and maybe 3 -20min plays or 4 -15 min plays.
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 08:13 AM (JS+7s)
I think that making the goals twice as large as they currently are would help a lot...same goes for hockey.
Hockey scoring is fine the way it is. If they need more arbitary points to keep spazoids happy just start awarding 7 points for a goal.
Then a common hockey games will end 28-21, 35-21, 28-14 etc. so... not much different than football.
Average scoring of a Monday night football game is about 50 (both teams added together). Average score of a NHL hockey game is about 6. 50/7 = 7.
Soccer... what can we do to make that sport more interesting? Play a different sport. I'm afraid this one is structurally gay. It's a tear-down.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 08:13 AM (IsLT6)
Easy. It's right beside the pancreas.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2010 08:13 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Master Cartographer at June 18, 2010 08:13 AM (uFdnM)
"Please provide me the date and competing teams of the last NFL game that ended in a zero-zero tie."
The Arizona Cardinals first regular season game ended in a 0-0 tie when they played the Chicago Bears on October 10, 1920.
American football allows the possibility of a zero-zero tie. By your standards then it must be completely worthless.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 18, 2010 08:13 AM (lE7cq)
How about a literal "shoot-out"? Pick the best marksman from each team and have them duel at high noon.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 18, 2010 08:14 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Jean at June 18, 2010 08:15 AM (I6dJM)
Soccer... what can we do to make that sport more interesting? Play a different sport. I'm afraid this one is structurally gay. It's a tear-down.
perfect description
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 08:15 AM (wuv1c)
249 US is now seeded on the third round and they have yet to win a game - priceless.
Uh, no, the US is not "seeded" on the third round. That's not how it works. We're still in the group stage. Top two out of our group will move on to Round of 16.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 18, 2010 08:16 AM (IkTb7)
Posted by: Pele's discarded conjoined twin at June 18, 2010 08:17 AM (nBE5A)
You think Soccer is tough - you should try watching it sometime, and staying awake for 90 minutes. That's tough.
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 08:18 AM (UMwMT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 18, 2010 08:18 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Soccer is for pansies and it is boring at June 18, 2010 08:18 AM (nBE5A)
Thankfully they do not have the NBA owners running the soccer show. Nine months of soccer would cause the suicide rate to skyrocket although that might help Oilbama bring down the unemployment rates to acceptable levels.
Posted by: The guy who watches soccer only when infomercials are unavailable at June 18, 2010 08:20 AM (uFdnM)
None of that. The rules are fine. They're stupid, but all sports' are.
The players just need to try to score. Low final scores aren't the problem. Games with a low number of scoring attempts have random results; they're fundamentally not sports.
One very good team that took more shots on goal than tradition demands could dominate and revolutionize soccer. Until then, it's bullshit.
Posted by: oblig. at June 18, 2010 08:22 AM (x7Ao8)
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 18, 2010 12:13 PM (lE7cq)
There's the possibility of a lot of things. What's the probability of an American football game ending in a 0-0 tie compared to the probability of a soccer game ending in a 0-0 tie?
Posted by: Tami at June 18, 2010 08:23 AM (VuLos)
Poor refereeing has been a plague on global soccer, and this isn't gonna help. Today's call was even worse than the Italy call, because not did the Americans commit no foul, they were fouled. So either the goal should've stood, or they should've had a penalty.
This isn't to say other countries have not been victimized, but I'm callin anti-americanism on this.
Posted by: Iblis at June 18, 2010 08:24 AM (9221z)
The Arizona Cardinals first regular season game ended in a 0-0 tie when they played the Chicago Bears on October 10, 1920.
Wanna run that by me again?
Posted by: HH at June 18, 2010 08:24 AM (6oDXl)
Silliness. I guarantee you that the violence rate at basketball games is higher than at soccer games. I've seen one video of one fan in Russia (IIRC) trying to get at a guy on a soccer pitch. He was pummeled. It's a long run. Fans don't like long runs.
Games are played to establish a winner that day.
Nonsense. Games are played to determine a winner for the given SEASON, and points for ties are part of the results table.
Who watches soccer to see their personal "life score" played out?
Maybe Costas and Will and other baseball purists can help you out with the "why people like sports" thing. They've written reams on it.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:25 AM (5LYVy)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 18, 2010 08:26 AM (HaYO4)
Maybe Obama should appoint a Soccer Czar and appoint a committee to try and help soccer be more accepted in the States.
"Let me be clear......."
Posted by: Lowell at June 18, 2010 08:26 AM (X1hJl)
Me. I even subscribe to MLB Radio so I can listen to games over the internet.
In baseball, every pitch matters. The hitter tries to anticipate a pitch, and a location, the pitcher tries to get him to miss (or hit it on the ground) - and when the pitcher makes a mistake, sometimes it travels over 400 feet into the cheap seats.
Then, there's the strategy - when to bunt, steal, hit and run, pitch out, pick off, delayed steal, etc.
Plus, there's nothing harder in sports to do than hitting a round ball with a round bat squarely, especially when that round ball is often coming in at 90 mph. Or if you're facing the Tigers and either Verlander or Zumaya - 100+ mph.
Soccer has nothing that can approach a perfect game like Galarraga threw 2 weeks ago, or a majestic line drive home run off the bat of Miguel Cabrera or Brennan Boesch.
Posted by: Naqamel at June 18, 2010 08:27 AM (UMwMT)
...and the Thorsten Frings handball on the line in the 2002 quarterfinals against Germany.
The anti-American refereeing is an issue that we'll have to deal with over time. My British friends acknowledge that it exists, so it's not our imagination (THEY TOLD ME OBAMA WOULD CHANGE THINGS!). That last goal should've counted, and that ref crew won't work another WC game, bank it. But that won't get us our 2 points back.
But Americans don't mind corrupt refs -- the NBA rating last night was pretty huge.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:30 AM (5LYVy)
No. Long series of games are played to determine who is stronger, overall. Individual games are played to decide a winner, that day. Tell me, do the teams in the World Cup each play each other 10 times - or even just 3 times, to truly determine which is stronger before moving the tournament on? Of course not, because the World Cup is not about deciding that the strongest team should win the Cup, only that the team that plays the short tournament best should win it.
Maybe Costas and Will and other baseball purists can help you out with the "why people like sports" thing. They've written reams on it.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 12:25 PM (5LYVy)
I can't say that I've ever gone to Costas for opinions on anything. As to Will, he also addresses the dreaded "jeans" issue ... so, you might want to revise this a bit.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 18, 2010 08:32 AM (Qp4DT)
And just for the record, Slovenia is not Slovakia.
Czechoslovakia no longer exists... but more importantly, Slovenia was never a part of it to begin with.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 08:35 AM (IsLT6)
Were that true, they'd just seed like the NCAA basketball tourney and play single elimination.
No, this is meant to be a mini-season. Everyone plays everyone on a neutral field. Of course, logistic demand that the WC Finals are only a month long, but please realize that the real tournament, which began with sectional qualifying, started TWO YEARS ago. This is no short thing, and every time, they start with a small "league" format. We're only just seeing the Finals now.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:36 AM (5LYVy)
Hey the fact that this referee from Mali found some "phantom foul" by a US player--thus denying us a 3rd goal--while simultaneously not spotting a real foul, which would have given us a penalty kick is just proof that there's been a rift in the Bamster's family ties back home in Kenya. If his brothers, uncles, cousins and such had been "taken care of" by the Bamster, the fix would have been in with the referee from Mali. Instead the Bamster, that schmuck, had failed to deliver the swag to Nairobi. No swag, no "fix". Didn 't President Zippy learn anything in Chicago?
Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 18, 2010 08:37 AM (ktYjH)
And just for the record, Slovenia is not Slovakia.
Czechoslovakia no longer exists... but more importantly, Slovenia was never a part of it to begin with.
Yes, It was part of Yugoslavia. It was the first nation to break away from Yugoslavia when their constitutional crisis began in the late 80s early 90s.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2010 08:37 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Iblis at June 18, 2010 08:38 AM (9221z)
I didn't see much of the game but please don't complain about the Referee. You know how you make that schmuck a non-factor? Don't go down 2-0 in the fist half to a country with a population smaller than Queens, NY.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 18, 2010 08:39 AM (X/Lqh)
Slovenia people. We tied Slovenia.
I am willing to bet most of you can't point to Slovenia on a map. Hell its only been an independent country for about 15 years.
We couldn't beat Yugoslovia's top hat."
It's better than that. We broke even with a country of 2 million people. Think about it. USA: 300+ million; Slovenia 2 million. That goal disallowal was bullshit though. Hopefully we'll pull off a win against Algeria. I mean, it's Algeria...oh wait. I said that about Slovenia...
Posted by: Mat at June 18, 2010 08:41 AM (d8AS2)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 18, 2010 08:42 AM (Qp4DT)
And he was just bad. Why FIFA thinks a guy from Mali is up for reffing a crucial WC game, I have no idea. He'd never worked a game bigger than the African Cup of Nations, which is a notoriously crooked and poorly-reffed tournament.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:42 AM (5LYVy)
For once, I agree with Drew.
Those two Slovenian goals were butt-ugly. They really shouldn't have happened. Cripes, Howard was just standing there on the first goal.
Posted by: Mat at June 18, 2010 08:42 AM (d8AS2)
More scores should be a priority without becoming easy scores.
Cut the ff-ing crying and girly hugging.
There are alot of legit arguments and comments on soccer here, except for the commie thing maybe, but the FIFA is a bunch of corruptocrats that do not want to change the game with solutions like a video ref who can make a call that is 100% correct for instantance if it is a goal or a penalty.
It could be for reasons of corruption. But it is still difficult to exactly determen the outcome of a game for bookmakers. People on both sides would have to be in on it and than techically it must be executed correctly. A shot on goal must be on target for the goalie to let it go and cash in.
Green USA- England?
Posted by: gdg at June 18, 2010 08:43 AM (JS+7s)
Donovan's goal was amazing.
I hate soccer, but I'll keep an open mind during the World Cup. It's only every four years, fer Chrissake. This was a fun game.
Posted by: schizuki at June 18, 2010 08:44 AM (Xd9fe)
Posted by: JEM at June 18, 2010 08:44 AM (G8Eo0)
I never heard anyone on TV mention it, either. He didn't move a foot. Might've been the swerve of the ball that got him on his right foot and froze him when the ball swung back to his left, or Gooch's head blocked him out and he saw it late, but still... They've been lionizing Howard for a week, and no one mentions that he's rooted to the spot for the first goal? It only wound up a couple steps to his left.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 08:46 AM (5LYVy)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 08:48 AM (4Pleu)
Bender,
That second Slovenian goal wasn't much better, but the first was just jaw-dropping. I noticed the lack of comments on TV as well. That was a shot that he should have easily had.
Posted by: Mat at June 18, 2010 08:49 AM (d8AS2)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 08:50 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: schizuki at June 18, 2010 12:44 PM (Xd9fe)
Good luck. I tried, and I mean I really tried, 4yrs ago. But the games went on endlessly (the ones I watched), went into OT or shootouts.
Trust me, if you want to watch it, just have the TV on and be doing something else.
Speaking of which, I ever tell you guys about my apt? The only one that overlooks the pool? And as I post, 3 blondes are going swimming.
Later...
Posted by: HH at June 18, 2010 08:51 AM (6oDXl)
I don't find your argument very convincing. The World Series is, also, the culmination of a long season (many more games than soccer) but they still have more of a measure of the better team during the World Series in how the playoffs and finals go. And, in your description of the two year season that the World Cup is measuring, teams change over two years. A team that was great last year might suck this year and might be awful during the World Cup. The Cup doesn't measure any objective (or even close) measure of team strength over that time. It just measures the play over its limited time, as all games and tournaments do.
Look, soccer fans don't mind ties. For them, it's all good and exciting. That's fine. Americans are not built that way. We like wins and losses. And when you allow ties, some teams will play for a tie, when it helps overall. That can get pretty boring - to an American, at least.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 18, 2010 08:53 AM (Qp4DT)
I'll bet there is someone in here complaining about how boring soccer is but keeps all the stats in MLB and even listens to baseball on the radio.
Guilty. But ,my grievances with soccer go beyond the fact that I find it boring. Well, boring and some other things. And for the record, golf on t.v. and NASCAR - not my thing either.
Specifically, 1) soccer, buy a damn scoreboard with a clock and someone to operate it. Due to stoppage time, soccer is the only sport where you do not know when it will exactly end. Baseball - 27th out. Football, basketball, hockey - all have clocks. Football and basketball even have clocks on overtime. Hockey - nothing more exiciting than an overtime game in hockey - next goal wins.
2) Lack of scoring - look, I like a good 1-0 baseball game, especially when a pitcher is really on their groove, hitting spots. Most 1-0 soccer games look like both teams just hanging around the middle waiting for the other team to screw up. Result - a sort of sloggy, defensive orientated game. One of the worst things that happened to hockey was the ascension of the New Jersey Devils in the mid-90s. The trap defense made the game look like.....well, soccer.
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 08:54 AM (hKyl0)
Stats are very exciting, in and of themselves. Humans love stats. Humans love lists. The existence of a plethora of highly interesting stats in baseball is a good part of its appeal.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 18, 2010 08:57 AM (Qp4DT)
When the NFL and the AFL merged in 1970, the rules were modified, so I'm not sure I'd count any game prior to that. Further, the Cardinals weren't in Arizona in 1920 -- they were in (IIRC) Chicago. Even further further: if you had to go back to 19-frickin-20
Yeah... Chicago Cardinals. We had 2 teams.
Even further, there weren't any "pro" players in football back then as we know them.
All those dudes in that 1920 game? They had day jobs.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 08:57 AM (IsLT6)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 12:50 PM (4Pleu)
Usually, it is not us.
Posted by: Chicago Cubs at June 18, 2010 08:57 AM (hKyl0)
Stats are very exciting, in and of themselves. Humans love stats. Humans love lists. The existence of a plethora of highly interesting stats in baseball is a good part of its appeal.
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Sports for nerdy accountants?
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It's still not as a gay as soccer.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 08:59 AM (IsLT6)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 09:00 AM (4Pleu)
If the Cubs ever win a Series, Cubbies are going to burn that joint down.
If the Cubs ever win in my lifetime, I plan on being drunk the rest of it.
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 09:02 AM (hKyl0)
Okay, I must apologise to the USA fans in here for snarking that the US was set to humiliate itself. I'm off to go catch a raven and eat it.
That was a good game and the US should have won it 3-2.
Posted by: Zimriel at June 18, 2010 09:09 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: Zimriel at June 18, 2010 09:13 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: Rocks at June 18, 2010 09:14 AM (Q1lie)
"When the NFL and the AFL merged in 1970, the rules were modified, so I'm not sure I'd count any game prior to that. Further, the Cardinals weren't in Arizona in 1920 -- they were in (IIRC) Chicago. Even further further: if you had to go back to 19-frickin-20 to find a zero-zero tie in American football, that pretty much makes my point.
Umm...no that wasn't your point. Quote:
"Further -- any game that even allows a zero-zero tie is a waste of time."
NFL rules theoretically allow a game to end in a 0-0 tie. Whether it has happened or happens frequently is irrelevant. Therefore, according to you, the game itself is a waste of time.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 18, 2010 09:19 AM (lE7cq)
That's why, as they say in MMA, you never put it in the hands of judges.
Ties suck. I think MMA needs to add more rounds to let conditioning determine it. No one wants to see a good, close fight end prematurely (although they still don't hardly ever tie, it gets judged on points).
Only problem is when you occaisonally get exhausted douchebags staring at each other and tapping shoulders for 10 minutes... no one wants the fight to continue and there it's so godawful painful that there needs to be some mechanism for ending boring fights when neither fighter seems to want to.
See, when you get both sides just competing for a tie or neither is aggressively playing, they're smart enough to realize to spectators that it's fuckin poison to to the sport.
Even if you win the match on points, if you're a lazy ass fighter UFC will not be booking you for many more fights. Even if you lose, if you go all out and give a good show you'll get more chances.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 09:21 AM (IsLT6)
No one likes draws. Everyone would rather see a win. That's why ties are only worth 1/3 of a win -- to encourage wins. But soccer games are short (1:45, including halftime, is 4-5 innings worth of baseball), and it's hard to score, unless you are playing against Onyewu. If you are equally as good on the day as your opponent, I think splitting the points is an acceptable way to proceed in a league format (contrasted with the NFL's tricked-out nonsense, for instance).
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 09:24 AM (5LYVy)
NFL rules theoretically allow a game to end in a 0-0 tie. Whether it has happened or happens frequently is irrelevant. Therefore, according to you, the game itself is a waste of time.
Dirk Diggler, master semiotician for hire.
Lamest argument ever. When you've reverted to trying to argue what your oponent thinks with him, you've already lost and you're desperate.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 09:25 AM (IsLT6)
Anyone remember Jeff Bagwell? Anyway, back when I was a fan, we were at a Astros v Padres game (1994 maybe) and Bagwell had 30-40 kids asking him for his autograph before the game, during batting practice. We all heard him cussing, talking about pussy, and saying how the "screaming brats" were getting on his nerves. He looked over at the kids and said "shut the fuck up", grabbed his crotch and spit in their direction. That shitty treatment of 5-12 year olds became the norm (not that extreme, ever) rather than the exception.
Hey give Bags a break. With all the steroids he was on that year, he was bound to be a little irritable.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 18, 2010 09:31 AM (lE7cq)
At least I didn't see any FAILS in the game today that my sister could've done better. I saw about 30 of them last night in the brick-and-turnover game.
Kobe MVP -- 6-for-24? MVP? Really? Clutch shooter Ray Allen -- 3-for-14. Ugh. LA wins while shooting 32% and missing 12 FTs. So many wide-open shots bricked that they should've issued hardhats to the cameramen under the baskets.
THAT was some suck.
Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at June 18, 2010 09:35 AM (5LYVy)
The stats separate the greatest players from the great players over the span of their careers.
No they don't.
Stat's lack context.
A hit is a hit is a hit. But a hit against a good pitch is a tougher then a hit against a poor pitch.
Statistics are just statistics. It's marginally useful for people trying to use statistical analysis to predict game outcomes and bet on them, but even then, it's ultimately meaningless on 'any given Sunday'.
But hey... I'm not a baseball guy.
Posted by: Entropy at June 18, 2010 09:35 AM (IsLT6)
And if you want, you can enjoy that thrill, what, 162 times per season? I wonder how many hours of boredom that would create?
Tell it to Vin Scully. And the people who have listened to him over the years.
Posted by: HH at June 18, 2010 09:52 AM (6oDXl)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 09:55 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 10:06 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: shoey at June 18, 2010 10:08 AM (yCH89)
Wow, how complex. Single, double, triple, in the park or out of the park, bunt, base stealing, sac fly and squeeze plays. It's a regular chess match of unrivaled complexity in the world of sports
Actually, the match up of pitcher vs. batter is pretty close to chess. You have an average 1.42 seconds from the time the ball leaves a major league pitcher’s hand till the batter has to make contact. In that 1.42 seconds, you have to decide 1) what type of pitch (4 seam fastball – probably gonna stay straight, 2 seam – gonna cut either inside or outside, curve – depends, 12-6 (drop down) or straight (left to right) slider (backdoor, you have 1.42 second to decide if it’s a 90 plus mph fastball that just is gonna miss its spot and hit you on the ass or whether you should stay in and wait for it to break) and then 2) location and then 3) in the zone/outside the zone.
Seriously, what happens in soccer that takes 1.42 seconds to decide? Should I do another toot on that damn noise maker or just mug someone in the stands?
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 10:22 AM (hKyl0)
Posted by: Chicago Cub Bankruptcy Thread at June 18, 2010 10:32 AM (hKyl0)
We really need a new thread. Either that, or I am gonna do a pitch by pitch breakdown of The Greatness classic outing against the Indians last year.
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 10:33 AM (hKyl0)
Lamest argument ever. When you've reverted to trying to argue what your oponent thinks with him, you've already lost and you're desperate.
Thanks for the tip Socrates, but next time try paying attention to the thread. I wasn't the one continually clarifying my initial statement.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at June 18, 2010 10:39 AM (lE7cq)
I have been told that misspeaking, over and over, can get you into trouble.
Posted by: Joe Barton at June 18, 2010 10:44 AM (hKyl0)
Uh, dude, you were the one that started the baseball is chess crap. And, I guess it would be a split decision to take a shot, if it werenÂ’t for the fact that 90% of soccer is played in the middle of the damn field where no one takes a shot anyway.
Oh, yea, “this is gay” = great argument. Usually when one is losing a debate, one starts the ad homenim attacks. Golf – hey, I already said I’m not into golf either, so not sure where that one came from.
Now, does soccer take skill and talent – yes. Never disputed that. As I first noted, its not my sport. There are things about soccer I just don’t like – mainly that it is too much defense (in the middle) and lack of an actual time clock.
If you are leaving, do me a favor, donÂ’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Posted by: Mallamutt, catching World Cup fever cause 0-0 ties are dramatic!!!! at June 18, 2010 10:54 AM (hKyl0)
Sorry if I pissed you off. Didn't mean to.
No problem – it’s the freaking internets. Nothing important.
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 11:08 AM (hKyl0)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 11:11 AM (4Pleu)
I'll watch ballet. At least the chicks are cute.
Truth be told, I may be the only person who watched the Iditaroid. Dog racing – yea, I can see where people will think that is boring. The difference – I am not telling everyone how great it is. And I really don’t even mind the soccer fan telling me how great the game is: they are a fan, so of course they think it is great. Now, I am tired of ESPN telling me how great it is. I am tired of FIFA telling me how great it is. And yes, I am tired of Europe, Africa, et. al. telling me how great it is. Look, soccer, you got fans in the U.S. good for you. But, at least for the immediate future, please do not tell me its gonna surpass football, baseball, basketball, NASCAR, golf in popularity. It isn’t. Why – because we Americans like scoring. We want 42-41 football scores, we want 7-6 baseball scores, we want 111-110 basketball scores. We like scoring.
Soccer may never gain the popularity here that it enjoys else where until the governing body figures out how to get the average game to 5-4, not 1-1.
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 11:25 AM (hKyl0)
Monty, look at it this way. Listen to baseball on the radio, or soccer?
"Low and inside, bases loaded."
Or
"Ball kicked back across mid-field".
Pretty much sums it up, eh?
Posted by: HH at June 18, 2010 11:27 AM (6oDXl)
Posted by: That guy who can;'t shut up and just leave everyone alone at
June 18, 2010 03:11 PM (gMONh)
No. They just need England to tie or beat Algeria and Slovenia, and to win themselves against Algeria. Basically it amounts to routing for England and themselves.
But England is looking crappy. This is one lousy group really.
Posted by: Rocks at June 18, 2010 11:30 AM (Q1lie)
"Ball kicked back across mid-field".
Pretty much sums it up, eh?
Which was one of the earlier points I made: until you get soccer past the middle of the field, where its defensive minded game, it just isnÂ’t going to get that popular here.
The NHL had a similar problem in the mid 90s with the New Jersey Devils. The Devils ran a center ice trap which made scoring very difficult. They pretty much played 3 seasons of 2-1, 2-0 or 1-0 hockey. And it was boring. So, what did the NHL do, tinkered with the rules, negated the advantage, scoring went up and the game started to get popular again.
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 11:31 AM (hKyl0)
I dunno -- if it weren't for the constant harping about how much I ought to like it, I'd probably dislike it less atavistically than I do. I
You had the same attitude about vegetables when you were young.
Posted by: Monty's Mom at June 18, 2010 11:32 AM (hKyl0)
It's even more boring than soccer?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 18, 2010 11:38 AM (oPZ+v)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 11:47 AM (4Pleu)
I don't recall anyone telling others in the soccer threads that they need to or should like it or that it will be a big sport here
Yea - that would be wrong.
Posted by: ESPN's Marketing Department at June 18, 2010 11:55 AM (hKyl0)
Posted by: Monty at June 18, 2010 11:59 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: dagny at June 18, 2010 12:01 PM (cXrqQ)
GO USA!
Posted by: kidney(SoCon,Bitches!) at June 18, 2010 12:17 PM (ENRGu)
You anti soccer types suck. Don't like the sport? Stay the hell off the thread. You've become sports trolls.
Thank you. It is that type of future blind adherence we will expect out of camp leaders like you. For that type of spirit, you will get extra serving of gruel tonight.
Posted by: Rahm, scouting for camp locations at June 18, 2010 12:32 PM (hKyl0)
I guess all the cobloggers and Ace got confused and thought a soccer game lasted as long as a cricket game and they only had to put up one thread for 3 days.
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 18, 2010 12:46 PM (hKyl0)
Posted by: wtfci at June 18, 2010 12:59 PM (R4rMI)
Posted by: Zimriel the Englishman at June 18, 2010 01:06 PM (9Sbz+)
Wow,
How's this for interesting?
Algeria tied England 0-0. This means that Slovenia has 4 points, USA and England have 2 and Algeria 1.
Now, if the US beats Algeria, they most likely move into the 2nd round (the only way they wouldn't is if England ties Slovenia and it's a 4-4 tie or something). But here's the kicker. The US could actually lock up the top spot if England beats Slovenia. England and the US would both have 5 points each, but unless England outscores Slovenia like 4-0, the US would get the top spot because of offensive goal differential. Talk about oddities...
Posted by: Mat at June 18, 2010 01:12 PM (d8AS2)
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