April 19, 2010

Yawn: Joe Klein Says Palin, Beck "Right Up Close to Being Seditious"
— Gabriel Malor

Another day, another leftist exploring new ways to shut down debate. Racism, the reflexive bleat of the Left, hasn't stuck. How about accusing the other side of crimes that historically carried a death sentence?

On NBC's April 18 "The Chris Matthews Show," Time columnist Joe Klein all but accused former GOP vice-presidential nominee and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, along with Fox News host Glenn Beck of sedition.

"I did a little bit of research just before this show - it's on this little napkin here. I looked up the definition of sedition which is conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state. And a lot of these statements, especially the ones coming from people like Glenn Beck and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, rub right up close to being seditious."

New York magazine's John Heilemann got into the act, but he's still plugging the racism claim:

"And Joe's right and I'll name another person, I'll name Rush Limbaugh who uses this phrase constantly and talks about the Obama administration as a regime," Heilemann said. "That phrase which has connotations of tyranny. And what's so interesting about it to me, to get to Norah's point - what is the focus, what is the cause of this? You think back to 1994, there was Ruby Ridge. There was Waco. There were triggering incidents. There's been nothing like that. The only thing that's changed in the last 15 months is the election of Barack Obama. And as far as I can see, in terms of the policies that Obama has implemented, there's nothing."

So Heilemann thinks Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh have something in common with Waco and Ruby Ridge. I wonder what that could be? It's odd. A year ago this month, we were discussing DHS Secretary Napolitano's "Rightwing Extremists" report that happened to be sourced from Southern Poverty Law Center blog posts.

And of course he sees no "triggering incidents", no problems with Obama's policies. He has no objection to midnight votes in Congress on Obama's "signature" policy. He has no problem with back-room deals cut with the taxpayers' money. No problem hanging Israel out to dry. And no problem with spending the U.S. government into a hole it will take a generation to pay off. Nope, no triggering incidents that might make people oppose Obama.

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Posted by: Ed Anger at April 19, 2010 08:24 AM (7+pP9)

2 I love the smell of sedition in the morning.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:25 AM (RkRxq)

3 ... as a matter of fact, I feeling damn seditious myself of late.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:26 AM (RkRxq)

4

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Posted by: Ed Anger at April 19, 2010 08:26 AM (7+pP9)

5 I wouldn't mind getting down and seditious with Palin myself?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 19, 2010 08:28 AM (0GFWk)

6

... and it was even immortalized in that famous song, sung by Tovia in Fiddler on the Roof

"Sedition, Sedition..."

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:28 AM (RkRxq)

7 Joe Klein is right up close to being clinically insane.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 08:29 AM (Rn9IH)

8
If you're wondering what all those people with Dissent is Patriotic bumper stickers have done with them, they removed them and put on Peace is Patriotic stickers.

I shit you not. That''s the new thing.

Posted by: Elroy Jetson at April 19, 2010 08:29 AM (4VHbi)

9

It's almost as if there is some sort of message coordination going on here.

But that couldn't be, right?

Note to lefties:  If your strategy looks like something that Hugo Chevez cooked up, you might want to trade up on your source material to at least a Mao or Erich Honecker level.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 19, 2010 08:29 AM (B+qrE)

10 More transparent projection from the America-hating left.  It's amazing how the left can spout these accusations of others when it is clear that they are just trying to cover their own asses as they pursue the same.  If we had any sort of a media, or people with courage in the public sphere, this sort of bullshit wouldn't be tolerated, in the least.

The Washington junta and its America-hating supporters are out to destroy the US, so they accuse those who want to save this nation of sedition.  Typical.  It's just amazing that anyone lets these traitors get away with it.

But, the people know who is shitting all over our Constitution in order to carry out their version of the French Revolution.  We know what group of traitors declare that "there are no rules.  We make the rules up as we go."  We know who is pushing this nation to violent ruin.  It would just be nice if there were a clear pushback against the junta to let the people know that those in the political system and the pundits also know, and aren't being bulldozed by some ephemeral fear of these treasonous weasels.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:30 AM (N49h9)

11 The lefties are like sheep, their opinion leaders tell them what to think and they all charge off in that direction, bleating furiously the whole time. 

Posted by: Boots at April 19, 2010 08:30 AM (06JTY)

12

"I did a little bit of research just before this show - it's on this little napkin here.

What other kind of research or napkins could there be for Stumpy?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 19, 2010 08:30 AM (V5s1P)

13
I heard the audio of the conversation, this morning. You need to hear/see it, for yourselves. It is surreal.

A lot of you have been saying we're living George Orwell's imagination -- it's true.

Posted by: Elroy Jetson at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (4VHbi)

14 Sedition. Would that be something like a leftist holding a sign that says "We support our troops when they shoot their officers"? I detect some highly selective outrage here.

Posted by: joncelli at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (RD7QR)

15 And Air America's flagship show, during the Bush years was titled "Morning Sedition." Featuring noted scrunt Janeane Garafolo. Outright sedition by liberals = NOT SEDITION. Unfounded accusations of sedition leveled at conservatives = ZOMG SEDITION LOL!!1!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (XlaO4)

16 Folks it's simple reason.  There was a legitimate White Supremacist Neo-Nazi rally in Los Angeles a couple of days ago and barely a word out of the Left. 

We may make fun of them but the Left isn't stupid - at least a good chunk of the leadership isn't.  (Many of the followers are).  Why did the Left make nary a peep about this rally in downtown LA?  Simple, because actual White Supremacists are already discredited and the Left knows this.  The Tea Party movement is now more popular than their loving boyfriend (48-44 according to Rasmussen) and now 78 percent of people no longer trust the government. 

The Left sees the Tea Party movement as a legitimate threat to the progressive power structure.  And they're right!  It is.  As the Tea Party continues to gain momentum, progressive ideas are further discredited.  The stimulus is a joke.  3/5ths of the country hate the health care bill.  No one wants cap and trade.  The Left is going "all in" to try to destroy the Tea Party movement because they know it's all over in November if they haven't succeeded by then.

Expect the attacks to intensify until then.  The Left views the Tea Party as a threat to them.  And they're right - it is a threat to them.

Posted by: Phil at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (jr7Cb)

17 You have to figure that trolls and Homeland Security (Homeland Security trolls? yeah, probably) will be eying these comments closely, and egging them on.

Posted by: 141 Driver at April 19, 2010 08:32 AM (LEynS)

18 Question Authority?  Eh, not so much now, I guess. 

Wankers.

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at April 19, 2010 08:32 AM (KWhJd)

19 Can racists be seditionists? This is getting confusing.

Posted by: Bugler at April 19, 2010 08:33 AM (YCVBL)

20
And Air America's flagship show, during the Bush years was titled "Morning Sedition." Featuring noted scrunt Janeane Garafolo.

holy shit, I forgot all about that.

Posted by: Elroy Jetson at April 19, 2010 08:34 AM (4VHbi)

21 So Joe Klein would have wanted to string up all those anti-Vietnam-War protestors in the '60s?

Do tell, Joe, you totalitarian cocksucker.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 19, 2010 08:35 AM (rOd1g)

22 I take your faux sedition and raise it 1 real treason:  Eric Holder!

Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:35 AM (CfmlF)

23 "And Joe's right and I'll name another person, I'll name Rush Limbaugh who uses this phrase constantly and talks about the Obama administration as a regime," Heilemann said.

Rush is being soft.  It's a JUNTA. And that's no joke.  They have broken any laws that bothered them in their pursuit of reorienting US power and killing all of the foundations upon which this nation was built.  That is a textbook description of a junta.

The Indonesian Imbecile and his junta are just like the attempted coup by Zelaya that they supported so fervently and idiotically.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (N49h9)

24

So according to Heilemann, Bubba Clinton's Administration implemented policies with respect to Ruby Ridge and Waco that subsequently triggered Oklahoma City? 

This is his argument?

Posted by: Fritz at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (GwPRU)

25 But, but, Scott Brown told CBS that Obama (and his party) were not Socialists, and the tea party did not get him elected....and, oh yeah.....he also said Obama is a good man!

Wow, Republicans are really fighting back hard!


Posted by: pam at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (h8R9p)

26 I'm a racist teabagging seditionist, and boy are my arms tired.

Posted by: Bugler at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (YCVBL)

27 Since the Tea Party movement is Whites-only, talk of its 'sedition' must be... racist.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at April 19, 2010 08:37 AM (BbTsC)

28 talks about the Obama administration as a regime

Yeah, I never ever heard that from 2001-2008.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 19, 2010 08:37 AM (rOd1g)

29 Speak truth to power!!!!

Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:37 AM (V/EYZ)

30 Oh and none of these douchetards had any problem labeling the previous administration teh "Bush Regime."  And while they all screamed about the faux outrage of Plamegate, they had no problem with the NYT leaking the names of CIA agents who interrogated Gitmo detainees, publishing the vulnerable spots on body armor and vehichles used by our troops, or the current naming of undercover agents in Afghanistan.  These people make me sick with their blatant, evil hypocrisy.

Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:38 AM (CfmlF)

31 The corpse of Woodrow Wilson just got a hardon

Posted by: bulwark at April 19, 2010 08:38 AM (PO/9k)

32 Dissent is Patriotic!!!

Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:38 AM (V/EYZ)

33 Beck was pretty worked up by this this morning and started off the show damn near funereal.  He's looking at these remarks as taking us ever closer to "the perfect storm," where it's not him or Rush that's going to be on the hotseat but all of us.  They're out for free speech.

Posted by: RushBabe at April 19, 2010 08:39 AM (LKkE8)

34 dissent was the highest form of patriotism

Posted by: remember when at April 19, 2010 08:39 AM (7uWb8)

35 The war in Iraq is a war to steal Iraq's oil and kill brown people!! As soon as we get a Democrat politician we will end the war!!

Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:39 AM (V/EYZ)

36

"And Joe's right and I'll name another person, I'll name Rush Limbaugh who uses this phrase constantly and talks about the Obama administration as a regime," Heilemann said

Byron York has a piece today showing that Heilemann himself has called the Obama Administration a regime on 4 different occasions. Of course he was talking to Chris Matthews who called the Bush Administration a rigime.

These leftists have totally lost it .

Posted by: robtr at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (fwSHf)

37 But, but, Hillary said we should dissent! It's the highest form of patriotism!

Posted by: Confused Hillary Supporter at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (OKZrE)

38 But, but, Scott Brown told CBS that Obama (and his party) were not Socialists, and the tea party did not get him elected....and, oh yeah.....he also said Obama is a good man!

Wow, Republicans are really fighting back hard!


Posted by: pam at April 19, 2010 12:36 PM (h8R9p)

Scott Brown is getting to be truly annoying.  I'm not sure if he's dumb or stupid, but he's living up to the sort of person who would endorse McShame the first day after winning his seat.

Sad ... and infuriating.  I hope he is pounded with having to defend this idiotic stance of his, over and over, the fool.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (N49h9)

39 They should have stuck with the racist ploy even if wasn't working all that well.  Probably 90% of the public has no fracking idea what sedition is, whereas 100% of them know what racism is.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (Rn9IH)

40 The Left are stupid. The difference between us and them is they behave like caterwauling brats and we tend to be civil and law-abiding. They have gotten away with their childish antics for so long and are agape with astonishment towards the Tea Party movement's growing strength. Keep spewing media pukes, you're doing us all a favor. Can't wait to see them go out of business.

Posted by: S'norin desert at April 19, 2010 08:41 AM (vLwYg)

41 This administration is shredding the Constitution with its warrantless wiretaps and unlawful detention of innocents at Gitmo!!!

Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:41 AM (V/EYZ)

42 Clearly, Matthews promised Klien a reach around at their next get together.

Posted by: Mr. Happy at April 19, 2010 08:41 AM (waaUg)

43 It is becoming increasingly hard to read these little tidbits and believe that the left is rational or functional.

The amount of self-serving insanity that the left produces, followed by the media echo chamber, is borderline psychotic.  It's one thing to want to change the world.  The fact that I disagree with them on policy, and that I'm allowed to, is part of what makes America great.

However, their Orwellian turns of phrase are both mind boggling and frightening.  And I really don't know what to do about it.  My "flight or fight" reaction tends towards my Marine training, though.  And that also scares me a bit.

Posted by: astrocanis at April 19, 2010 08:42 AM (GIMzg)

44 Don't worry I am sure Obama is going to explain all this at his next Press Conference?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 19, 2010 08:42 AM (0GFWk)

45 Sedition isn't illegal, is it?

Posted by: FUBAR at April 19, 2010 08:42 AM (1fanL)

46 Isolate, attack, etc.

Posted by: Saul Alinsky at April 19, 2010 08:42 AM (waaUg)

47 This President is more concerned with playing Golf or going on vacation than our troops dying in Iraq and Afghanistan!!!

Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (V/EYZ)

48 Some sedition is more equal than other sedition . . . .

Posted by: Free-Thinking Progressive at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (xJzIj)

49 I'm a seditionist , and I'm okay. I sleep all night and I work all day. I pay my taxes. I eat my lunch. I go to the lavat'ry. On Wednesdays I go shoppin' And have buttered scones for tea.

Posted by: LeBron Steinman at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (mVrNC)

50 I did a little bit of research this morning and it was on the toilet paper I flushed.

Posted by: kansas at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (mka2b)

51 33 Beck was pretty worked up by this this morning and started off the show damn near funereal.  He's looking at these remarks as taking us ever closer to "the perfect storm," where it's not him or Rush that's going to be on the hotseat but all of us.  They're out for free speech.

And they're going to stop free speech very easily. It's being done now in Europe under the guise of "Hate Speech." Almost anything can be deemed "hate speech" if you want, and that's how they will silence any criticism of Teh Won.

Say you don't like a plan that Obama  is touting? Well, he's sort of black, so not agreeing with a sort of black man is racist. Consequently, it's hateful to be racist, and voila! Racism=Hate Speech= soon to be illegal.

Simple, isn't it?

It's how they're stopping criticism of Islam as well.

Posted by: shibumi at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (OKZrE)

52 There is no particular negative connotation to most common usages of the word "regime".  This is largely an artifact of their projection.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (Rn9IH)

53
If you oppose the democrat's policies and openly say so with a clever sign at a tea party - you are no different than Timothy McVeigh, (and you're a racist).

Behold: the left-winger hypocrite thought process.



Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (0fzsA)

54 Maybe while Joe was doing his research "on this little napkin here" he should have dug a little deeper and read about what happened with the Sedition Acts, of 1798 and 1918. Perhaps then he wouldn't look like a completely clueless, gibbering half-wit.

Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (k4bdL)

55 OK, lessee-

Bush Administration:  Dissent = Patriotism

Obama Administration: Dissent = Sedition

Got it

Assholes..

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (OtQXp)

56 What's all this "Bush administration" talk?  Sedition stopped being a bad thing during the Vietnam War. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (mR7mk)

57 talks about the Obama administration as a regime

Yeah, I never ever heard that from 2001-2008.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 19, 2010 12:37 PM (rOd1g)

You have to wonder just who the idiots are.  Are the idiots the really smart, in-the-know professionals, who honestly never heard this same kind of stuff, and much worse, during the Bush administration?  Or are the idiots all the people out in TV land, who the in-the-know professionals are consciously lying to and trying to fool?

Posted by: FUBAR at April 19, 2010 08:45 AM (1fanL)

58 40 Gabe of Spades!

 

Ace of Gabes?


Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:45 AM (CfmlF)

59 53 There is no particular negative connotation to most common usages of the word "regime".  

We'll see what we can do about that, bitch.  I'll have Axelrod alert the media.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 19, 2010 08:46 AM (mka2b)

60 Remember when Joe Klein went on a tirade against Seymour Hersh when Hersh addressed the Riverside Church and claimed an "8 man cabal runs Washington".

Oh wait.  Joe Klein didn't say shit about Hersh ranting like the lunatic fringe character he really is.

I'm shocked.

Posted by: wtfci at April 19, 2010 08:46 AM (+zo63)

61 Peace is Patriotic

But only peace through inferior firepower, apparently.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 08:46 AM (mR7mk)

62 "Probably 90% of the public has no fracking idea what sedition is" Sedition by Joecalvin Klein. It'll get somebody out of their pants.

Posted by: Bugler at April 19, 2010 08:47 AM (YCVBL)

63 Joe's wrong anyway.  They have to have intent, the Smith Act says.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 19, 2010 08:47 AM (1fanL)

64 this little napkin here "little napkin"? ...like a little bar napkin? klassy. erudite. nuanced. and drunk.

Posted by: Faye Kinnit at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (l1oyw)

65 If this be Treason, make the most of it!

Posted by: HobbieHawk at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (qzOby)

66 Real irony; leftists accusing us of sedition. Hahahahaha.

Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (QrA9E)

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (r9H2O)

68 However, their Orwellian turns of phrase are both mind boggling and frightening.  And I really don't know what to do about it.  My "flight or fight" reaction tends towards my Marine training, though.  And that also scares me a bit.

Posted by: astrocanis at April 19, 2010 12:42 PM (GIMzg)

The left is trying to push this nation to violence - just as they tried during the Town Halls by throwing out iditoic claims of racism and violence (clear lies).  They just wanted to foment racial animus in this country and bring us to a boil.

The junta is trying to provoke the populace.  The Precedent does this because all he ever cared about was exacting revenge on the US.  The rest of his useful idiots in the junta are doing it, now, because they think it's their only chance - and it is.  Things are going to get very, very dangerous.

And, what should have scared the living shit out of people, from the start, was the way these asswipes tell the most obvious and transparent lies right to our faces.  That is a sign that there are no limits.  Nothing is out of bounds for these America-hating creeps.  They will push and push and push until things break.

This is why I've been saying that this nation is going to last the whole of the Indonesian Imbecile's term, intact.  THe US is going to have to make a decision.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (N49h9)

69

1.  Criticize criticism of Obama as Racist and Seditious

2.  Spread the meme throughout state controlled media

3.  Epic Wins in 2010 and 2012!

Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (CfmlF)

70

Posted by: shibumi at April 19, 2010 12:43 PM (OKZrE)

He talks about free speech all the time, but he seemed most upset by the fact that his patriotism was being questioned.  (Frankly, knowing how nucking futs the left is, I wouldn't care what they thought of me.)  More interesting was an aside he made last week that Zero's gang is gunning for internet regulation moreso than talk radio because the internet gives people the ability to organize.

Posted by: RushBabe at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (LKkE8)

71 Regime change begins at home.  Fire Pelosi 2010!

Posted by: HeatherRadish recycles at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (mR7mk)

72 And Air America's flagship show, during the Bush years was titled "Morning Sedition." Featuring noted scrunt Janeane Garafolo.

Ya, but if you only have 3 listeners does that really count?

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 08:49 AM (e8T35)

73 Hows my dick taste, Klein?

Posted by: Saul Alinsky at April 19, 2010 08:49 AM (waaUg)

74 Merely because all my argument are direct quotations from the 37th Revision of "Truths of Leader Obama" does not mean I am not a free thinker, capable of my own thoughts. The Truths of Leader Obama are truths freely available to all who are honest enough with themselves to receive them. Embracing the Truths of Leader Obama is no more difficult than embracing the relaxing inspiration of the purples of a clear, summer sky. 

Posted by: Free-Thinking Progressive at April 19, 2010 08:49 AM (xJzIj)

75 Again o/t but Bosox so far are losing to Tampa Bay 6-0.

Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:50 AM (CfmlF)

76 Good thing we have Joe Klein's heroes in control.  It's about time they got to speak power to truth.

Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at April 19, 2010 08:50 AM (KWhJd)

77

So running against Rush, Palin and Beck is the strategy? So novel.

Posted by: Mr. Happy at April 19, 2010 08:50 AM (waaUg)

78 There is no particular negative connotation to most common usages of the word "regime".  This is largely an artifact of their projection.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 12:44 PM (Rn9IH)

Yep.  We speak of all sorts of "regimes", like diets, and there is nothing negative about them.  The lefties aren't very good at English.  No surprise for the Indonesian Imbecile, but it's a hoot to see the rest of the leftist dorks try to jump on this idiocy.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:51 AM (N49h9)

79 Ya, but if you only have 3 listeners does that really count?

Well, we crowed long and hard about doing a fine job of protecting Americans by stamping out right-wingy extremaholic terroristic seditionismastic activities after cracking down on a militia with about 3 members, so, yeah!

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at April 19, 2010 08:52 AM (rOd1g)

80 Maybe while Joe was doing his research "on this little napkin here" he should have dug a little deeper and read about what happened with the Sedition Acts, of 1798 and 1918. Perhaps then he wouldn't look like a completely clueless, gibbering half-wit.

True, but then again if he weren't a completely clueless, gibbering half-wit they never would have had him on NBC in the first place.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 08:52 AM (e8T35)

81
I've got a whole shelf full of first seditions at my library.

Posted by: Crooked Dick Clinton at April 19, 2010 08:53 AM (Oxen1)

82

Since the Tea Party movement is Whites-only, talk of its 'sedition' must be... racist.

Right. The President is black, therefore sedition is super double ungood.

 

Gabe of Spades!

 Ace of Gabes?

Gabe showed you his what?

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 19, 2010 08:54 AM (XdlcF)

83

This is why I've been saying that this nation is going to last the whole of the Indonesian Imbecile's term, intact.  THe US is going to have to make a decision.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 12:48 PM (N49h9)

Er ... "NOT going to last"

I hate when that happens.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:54 AM (N49h9)

84

And more along the lines of "We totally own you with the intellectuality of our arguments";

http://tinyurl.com/y7lrepw

Allahpundit is so clever to rub elbows with the likes of uber intellectual 'Hitch' as AP is honored to call him.

He has so fallen for the "British accent = credibility" crap and he wants atheism to be just like any other "special" interest. 

To paraphrase a famous movie line, "When they're all special, then none of them will be."

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:54 AM (RkRxq)

85 Well, we crowed long and hard about doing a fine job of protecting Americans by stamping out right-wingy extremaholic terroristic seditionismastic activities after cracking down on a militia with about 3 members, so, yeah!

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at April 19, 2010 12:52 PM (rOd1g)

Not impressed.  Hey, until you roast 74 men, women and kids to death without an ounce of proof that their guilty of anything, your no Janet Reno lady.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 08:56 AM (e8T35)

86

Gabe of Spades!

 Ace of Gabes?


Ace of Green Gables?  Imagining an Ewok longing for puffed sleeves...

Posted by: HeatherRadish recycles at April 19, 2010 08:57 AM (mR7mk)

87 Oh, and Gabe you are outdoing yourself today!  Wow!  You are a freaking rockstar of blogging!  Stay hydrated and fuel up!  We don't want you to bonk!

Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:58 AM (CfmlF)

88 Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Sedition Up! at April 19, 2010 08:58 AM (uFdnM)

89 Gabe promised a big day of blogging. He is delivering. Gabe for El Presidente'.

Posted by: Sedition Up! at April 19, 2010 08:59 AM (uFdnM)

90

Ace of Green Gables?  Imagining an Ewok longing for puffed sleeves...

 

 

That was one of my all time fav books.  Plus remember, Ann was a ginger....Uh oh, Italics are stuck...


Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:59 AM (CfmlF)

91

"If this be treason, make the most of it!" -- Patrick Henry

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at April 19, 2010 09:01 AM (sGtp+)

92 If you're wondering what all those people with Dissent is Patriotic bumper stickers have done with them, they removed them and put on Peace is Patriotic stickers.

I shit you not. That''s the new thing.

Maybe they ought to change that to Hypocrisy is Patriotic.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 09:01 AM (e8T35)

93 If you're wondering what all those people with Dissent is Patriotic bumper stickers have done with them, they removed them and put on Peace is Patriotic stickers.

I shit you not. That''s the new thing.

So, the new one goes beside, above, or below the Coexist and the Obama bumper stickers? Where in relation to the peace sign, the Obama logo, the "Democrats Care About People", and the old Kerry Edwards sign?

Now I know why the back of a Pious is so damn big. It's not aerodynamics, it's so there's room to fit all the slogans!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at April 19, 2010 09:01 AM (UEEex)

94 It's ok for Liberals, not ok for Real Americans. You got that? YOU GOT THAT!?

Posted by: UGrev at April 19, 2010 09:04 AM (862vz)

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 19, 2010 09:05 AM (r9H2O)

96

Now I know why the back of a Pious is so damn big. It's not aerodynamics, it's so there's room to fit all the slogans!

 

Proof leftards are teh biggest hypocrites.  They're sacrificing gas mileage with the drag and weight of all their bumper stickers.  Why do libs hate Gaia?


Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 09:06 AM (CfmlF)

97

How about if I said "Joe Klein rubs right up against being a pedophile and a cannibal"? Hey Joe, put down the chianti.

Apparently it's not an accusation or a slander if you say that they're close to committing a crime.

I'd call him a despicable little weasel, but I'd get sued by the weasels.

Posted by: Zimriel at April 19, 2010 09:07 AM (9Sbz+)

98 First the D's will run against Bush, Rush, Beck and Palin... then they will run against Nixon, then HW Bush, after that they are stuck, and will have to run against Coolidge.....and he was from Vermont and attended Amherst and Harvard ...clearly racist teabaggers .... yep, that will work.

Posted by: ford at April 19, 2010 09:08 AM (Ki7fm)

99

If you're wondering what all those people with Dissent is Patriotic bumper stickers have done with them, they removed them and put on Peace is Patriotic stickers.

We have always been at war with EurEastasia!

Posted by: Zimriel at April 19, 2010 09:08 AM (9Sbz+)

100 I say this only because the D's will not run against Reagan.

Posted by: ford at April 19, 2010 09:10 AM (Ki7fm)

101 Matthews promised Klien a reach around at their next get together.

Klein promised a tinkle down Mathews' leg in return.

Posted by: CUS at April 19, 2010 09:11 AM (wOGfT)

102 Sedition! is an okay song.  I prefer If I Were a Rich Man because it features me or Sunrise, Sunset because it is so touching.

Posted by: Tevye at April 19, 2010 09:11 AM (oSrBX)

103 Did you get a look at the pant crease of Beck?? Not straight.. ..sometimes NO PANT CREASE.

Posted by: David Brooks at April 19, 2010 09:13 AM (Ki7fm)

104 I find the Margaret Thatcher Problem with Socialism bumper sticker to be just the right balance between making people think and getting side swiped by a Volvo or Subaru.  Obama is still up 10% or so in Connecticut, but at least the bumper stickers are fading away.

Posted by: AE at April 19, 2010 09:15 AM (1bZ96)

105 Sedition is as sedition does. I can't describe sedition, but I know it when I see it. You have to make a charge for sedition, to see what's in it.

Posted by: Crystal Grannie at April 19, 2010 09:15 AM (Ki7fm)

106

Sedition? Why not go whole hog and re-enact the Alien and Sedition Act. Gotta a lot of aliens or undocumenteds running around.

Sedition Reform Now!

Posted by: Mr. Barky at April 19, 2010 09:16 AM (qwK3S)

107

Oy, Tevye.

Actually, that would make an excellent You Tube video:

The Tradition of the left using words like Sedition and Regime.

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 19, 2010 09:16 AM (XdlcF)

108 Some of Joe Klein's actions are right up close to pedophilia.

I'm not saying the guy is a pedophile, per se. But if you know his history, he's certainly come close to the line.

Posted by: Warden at April 19, 2010 09:18 AM (TIGTh)

109 Now I know why the back of a Pious is so damn big. It's not aerodynamics, it's so there's room to fit all the slogans!

The number of bumper stickers is inversely proportional to the intelligience of the driver.

Posted by: CUS at April 19, 2010 09:19 AM (wOGfT)

110 I think what these people are saying is hate speech. It is deliberate lies, and distortions directed to move their base to hurt Beck, Rush, Palin or Bush. See, it works, the shoe does fit on the other foot!

Posted by: ford at April 19, 2010 09:20 AM (Ki7fm)

111

Treason doth never prosper.

Whats the reason?

For if it prosper

none dare call it treason.

(English epigramist/poet whose name I can't recall at the moment)

 

Posted by: Have Blue at April 19, 2010 09:24 AM (mV+es)

112 Jesus H. Christ, as Dad was wont to explode.  Talk about short attention spans.  What about the NYT and Bush??  What about the CIA??   What about every liberal politician and talking head in the known universe and Bush???  It's a good thing these brainless twits are tone deaf to the right.  That gives all of us plenty of time to keep on doing what we're doing, e. g., emails, local politics, campaign donations.

Posted by: iowavette at April 19, 2010 09:27 AM (0JTac)

113 Sedition is the highest form of patriotism!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 19, 2010 09:27 AM (F5/VW)

114

Total projection, as progressivesoverpeace has repeatedly pointed out on this blog, which is one of the left's most infuriating traits. On the one hand I say, "Meh, business as ususal for these whack jobs."

On the other hand, this would be a great opportunity for someone like a McCain or Michael Steele to stand up and say, "ENOUGH with these accusations of hate speech, incitement, racism and even sedition aginst people who love their country that are taking the time to speak out against an administration they disagree with. IOW,STFU already. It's an old and tired whine that Democrats trot out every time someone takes issue with their politics and says more about their lack of tolerance and fear of an open debate about ideas then anything else."

Why are Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh (and his brethren) the only ones that seemingly have the stones to stand up against this total BS the left throws out? Republicans, do we have any leaders out there? Anyone of you pols that are going to be begging the tea partiers for their support want to take a minute and defend them against this dreck? Crickets?  

Posted by: RM at April 19, 2010 09:27 AM (1kwr2)

115

Sedition? Patriotism? Never heard of either one of 'em.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at April 19, 2010 09:29 AM (F5/VW)

116 I like Democrats even more when they shoot their commissars!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 19, 2010 09:30 AM (F5/VW)

117 Proof leftards are teh biggest hypocrites.  They're sacrificing gas mileage with the drag and weight of all their bumper stickers.  Why do libs hate Gaia?

Could never figure out how anyone could be a lib, considering the mental machinations it takes on a daily basis.  For example, global warming is bad.  Cow farts cause global warming.  But we don't want to eat cows or kill cows because that's hurting animals and that's bad.  Unless their fish - in which case that's ok - but not cute and cuddly animals, that's bad.

So we only want to eat plants.  Like rice and lettuce and soybeans.  See that's good.  But we don't want to cut down other plants like trees, even when it gets so bad that were not clearing out the forests and their getting so overgrown that they catch fire and we lose millions of acres and cause millions in property damage from forest fires that could have been easily prevented.

And violence is bad.  Except when your being violent to protest other violence, like war or nuclear weapons or people cutting down trees or driving vehicles that use to much gas, in which case violence is perfectly fine.

Makes my head hurt.  Seriously, I just can't see how these people can deal with so much mental masturbation on a daily basis.


Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 09:33 AM (e8T35)

118

Why are Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh (and his brethren) the only ones that seemingly have the stones to stand up against this total BS the left throws out? Republicans, do we have any leaders out there?

They just keep playing at a game of being statesmen, of treating their opponents nicely, trying to work with them, yadda yadda yadda.

Showing up to a knife fight with a piece of bread in their hands...and offering to share it.

Insanity is still doing the same thing over and over and believing it will have a different outcome.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 19, 2010 09:34 AM (XdlcF)

119 Palin. Beck, Limbaugh seditious?  Don't make me laugh.  Rank amateurs!  You want real sedition, read up on Washington, Jefferson and Madison.

Posted by: Killmore Spout at April 19, 2010 09:34 AM (mQMnK)

120 The number of bumper stickers is inversely proportional to the intelligience of the driver.

Posted by: CUS at April 19, 2010 01:19 PM (wOGfT)

So it would probably be a good idea to give a car sporting stickers for Obama and Kerry/Edwards (with an Al Franken) kicker a wide berth??

The crazy...It burns.......


Posted by: Portnoy at April 19, 2010 09:37 AM (mT7uC)

121 McCain or Michael Steele to stand up and say, "ENOUGH with these accusations of hate speech, incitement, racism and even sedition aginst people who love their country that are taking the time to speak out against an administration they disagree with.

McCain only gets tough with Hayworth apparently.  He's already running some super nasty attack ads - funny how when he was running against Obama he was all sweetness and light.  I really hope he loses his primary bid and fades into obscurity, it would do the entire republican party a world of good.

Steele?  I can only guess he's still out hawking his book - he's pretty much completely MIA as far as I can tell. 

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 09:37 AM (e8T35)

122 So we only want to eat plants.  Like rice and lettuce and soybeans.

You know how many furry "cute" animals are killed by agriculture every year?   Hell, even hippies try to kill things that pillage their gardens.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 09:38 AM (mR7mk)

123 The crazy...It burns.......

Too bad you can't stick crazy in an internal combustion engine and get the same efficiency as refined petroleum.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 09:39 AM (mR7mk)

124

I really hate these people. Look for the attacks to become more shrill and become a fever pitch in October. All with the so called MSM cheerleading.

I cannot wait until The One gets landslided in '12. One term, baby.

Posted by: fugazi at April 19, 2010 09:40 AM (4bvZp)

125 These assholes would call our Founding Fathers criminals...

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 19, 2010 09:44 AM (erIg9)

126 ""The Chris Matthews Show," Time columnist Joe Klein" -- if a tree falls in the forest ?? Ace may have more viewers then these clowns, they have to say something outrageous.

Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2010 09:46 AM (ouk5a)

127 So a state run media STOOGE describes the Group Think Collective's definition of seditious for the masses.  Why even give voice to these propaganda pimps beyond their initial publication any more?  Isn't it time to start focusing on individuals who are running for public office that can state and propose ideas that actually make sense in order to bring public awareness of them and help build support for them? 

Posted by: Greg at April 19, 2010 09:51 AM (nZXNe)

128 Falsely accusing someone of a serious crime, like sedition, is libel per se.  That's what Klein is doing.


Posted by: mondonico at April 19, 2010 10:00 AM (ENJZq)

129

I take exception to the phrase "...spending the U.S. government into a hole it will take a generation to pay off."

I seriously doubt any one generation could possibly pay it off.

Yeah, "Joe Klein" is hopelessly drunk on Obama-flavored Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 19, 2010 10:03 AM (JC+x3)

130

Standard orchestrated and coordinated outrage dating from a terrorist - a domestic terrorist not unlike William Ayers with more actual kills - who attacked 15 years ago.

The real seditionists are the ones who tried to murder delegates to a national political convention - the Republican Convention, may I add - and who supported in word and deed the attacks against recruitment stations and critical military supply. That is, the LEFT. They're projecting so much I'm surprised they haven't accidentally referred to Tim McVeigh as Hussein McVeigh.

Fact is we are a nosehair from suffering under Tyranny, and tyranny cannot hide behind calling opposition as seditious. Tyranny has no legitimacy, and none of Hussein's major moves (cap & trade, enslavement of doctors, attacks against insurance workers, etc) are themselves Constitutional. They in fact are anti-Constitutional and un-American and are themselves seditious in that they are intended to attack and destroy the Constitution.

They don't understand that if they ratchet this shit up as much as they are doing, they make it more likely for them to be treated as they demand real Americans be treated - because unlike what they are accusing Palin and Limbaugh with, they themselves are undoubtedly and inarguably guilty of crimes against the Constitution - deserving of the swiftest and most brutal justice imaginable.

I for one will be happy to see them deported to North Korea.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 19, 2010 10:05 AM (O6c08)

131

Sara Palin (she scares me!) and Rush Limbaugh (you don't actually listen to him, do you?) and Glenn Bech (he's nuts) and Ann Coulter (how hateful) all want Obama to fail which means they want the country to fail which means they're ...

... sorry. A real troll would've kept typing under the deluded belief that these are all original thoughts. I just can't muster up the enthusiasm to keep up the charade.

Yawn, indeed. Arrest them all for serditions and stuff.

Posted by: SubPontis at April 19, 2010 10:09 AM (cQyWA)

132 It's how they're stopping criticism of Islam as well.

Almost like a pattern or something. How much money donated to the Clinton Library came from Dubai?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 19, 2010 10:38 AM (mHQ7T)

133 Sedition isn't illegal, is it?
Not that I've ever heard.

Posted by: jane fonda at April 19, 2010 10:40 AM (ocax6)

134 God bless and keep the Obama
...far away from us.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 19, 2010 10:47 AM (ocax6)

135 To the regime and its fellow travelers: If this be sedition, make the most of it.

Posted by: Ken at April 19, 2010 01:01 PM (vT7rz)

136 "I did a little bit of research just before this show - it's on this little napkin here. I looked up the definition of sedition which is conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state." -- Joe Klein, noted imbecile and America-hater

Hmmm.  It seems to me that the conduct of Congress did exactly this, along with the language and conduct of The Precedent.  The health scare and Porkulus did more to incite rebellion against the (overreaching) authority of the state than anything.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 01:10 PM (N49h9)

137

"the definition of sedition which is conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state. And a lot of these statements, especially the ones coming from people like Glenn Beck and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, rub right up close to being seditious."

Against the authority of the state? Yeah, Joe. That makes sense if you're a dangerous fucking idiot who believes the "state" is all-powerful. The rest of us who have heard of something called the United States Constitution know the "states" or the "Federal government" are NOT all-powerful, and instead work FOR US, for "we the people". This isn't sedition, this is the fact that the goverments at federal, state, and local levels need to get smacked on the nose like your dog that just shit on the rug.

Posted by: SGT Dan at April 19, 2010 01:20 PM (GgXZc)

138 Too bad you can't stick crazy in an internal combustion engine and get the same efficiency as refined petroleum.

Imagine the power plant of tomorrow. Put a liberal and a conservative in a reactor, and the crazy emanated from the lib powers a city! For big cities, we use bigger instances (ie, Palin and Howard Dean, Obama and Paul Ryan, etc.).

Scientists, get on this! Make it so!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at April 19, 2010 01:44 PM (UEEex)

139 Uh huh. So take us seditious people to court then Joe. Let's just see where that goes. I'll bet it ends up with you and your ilk being branded McCarthy 2.0 for the rest of your lives by a very angry public. You'll probably be so thoroughly dishonored that you'll have to move to Europe to avoid being shouted at by passersby or chased around by snotty young turk reporters who want to play gotcha on a live camera with the latest goat(you). So c'mon tough guy. Do it. It'll be fun.   

Posted by: Cack Finger at April 19, 2010 04:47 PM (TUBcJ)

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