April 19, 2010
— Gabriel Malor Another day, another leftist exploring new ways to shut down debate. Racism, the reflexive bleat of the Left, hasn't stuck. How about accusing the other side of crimes that historically carried a death sentence?
On NBC's April 18 "The Chris Matthews Show," Time columnist Joe Klein all but accused former GOP vice-presidential nominee and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, along with Fox News host Glenn Beck of sedition."I did a little bit of research just before this show - it's on this little napkin here. I looked up the definition of sedition which is conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state. And a lot of these statements, especially the ones coming from people like Glenn Beck and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, rub right up close to being seditious."
New York magazine's John Heilemann got into the act, but he's still plugging the racism claim:
"And Joe's right and I'll name another person, I'll name Rush Limbaugh who uses this phrase constantly and talks about the Obama administration as a regime," Heilemann said. "That phrase which has connotations of tyranny. And what's so interesting about it to me, to get to Norah's point - what is the focus, what is the cause of this? You think back to 1994, there was Ruby Ridge. There was Waco. There were triggering incidents. There's been nothing like that. The only thing that's changed in the last 15 months is the election of Barack Obama. And as far as I can see, in terms of the policies that Obama has implemented, there's nothing."
So Heilemann thinks Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh have something in common with Waco and Ruby Ridge. I wonder what that could be? It's odd. A year ago this month, we were discussing DHS Secretary Napolitano's "Rightwing Extremists" report that happened to be sourced from Southern Poverty Law Center blog posts.
And of course he sees no "triggering incidents", no problems with Obama's policies. He has no objection to midnight votes in Congress on Obama's "signature" policy. He has no problem with back-room deals cut with the taxpayers' money. No problem hanging Israel out to dry. And no problem with spending the U.S. government into a hole it will take a generation to pay off. Nope, no triggering incidents that might make people oppose Obama.
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Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:25 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:26 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 19, 2010 08:28 AM (0GFWk)
... and it was even immortalized in that famous song, sung by Tovia in Fiddler on the Roof
"Sedition, Sedition..."
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:28 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 08:29 AM (Rn9IH)
If you're wondering what all those people with Dissent is Patriotic bumper stickers have done with them, they removed them and put on Peace is Patriotic stickers.
I shit you not. That''s the new thing.
Posted by: Elroy Jetson at April 19, 2010 08:29 AM (4VHbi)
It's almost as if there is some sort of message coordination going on here.
But that couldn't be, right?
Note to lefties: If your strategy looks like something that Hugo Chevez cooked up, you might want to trade up on your source material to at least a Mao or Erich Honecker level.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 19, 2010 08:29 AM (B+qrE)
The Washington junta and its America-hating supporters are out to destroy the US, so they accuse those who want to save this nation of sedition. Typical. It's just amazing that anyone lets these traitors get away with it.
But, the people know who is shitting all over our Constitution in order to carry out their version of the French Revolution. We know what group of traitors declare that "there are no rules. We make the rules up as we go." We know who is pushing this nation to violent ruin. It would just be nice if there were a clear pushback against the junta to let the people know that those in the political system and the pundits also know, and aren't being bulldozed by some ephemeral fear of these treasonous weasels.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:30 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Boots at April 19, 2010 08:30 AM (06JTY)
"I did a little bit of research just before this show - it's on this little napkin here.
What other kind of research or napkins could there be for Stumpy?
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 19, 2010 08:30 AM (V5s1P)
I heard the audio of the conversation, this morning. You need to hear/see it, for yourselves. It is surreal.
A lot of you have been saying we're living George Orwell's imagination -- it's true.
Posted by: Elroy Jetson at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (4VHbi)
Posted by: joncelli at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (XlaO4)
We may make fun of them but the Left isn't stupid - at least a good chunk of the leadership isn't. (Many of the followers are). Why did the Left make nary a peep about this rally in downtown LA? Simple, because actual White Supremacists are already discredited and the Left knows this. The Tea Party movement is now more popular than their loving boyfriend (48-44 according to Rasmussen) and now 78 percent of people no longer trust the government.
The Left sees the Tea Party movement as a legitimate threat to the progressive power structure. And they're right! It is. As the Tea Party continues to gain momentum, progressive ideas are further discredited. The stimulus is a joke. 3/5ths of the country hate the health care bill. No one wants cap and trade. The Left is going "all in" to try to destroy the Tea Party movement because they know it's all over in November if they haven't succeeded by then.
Expect the attacks to intensify until then. The Left views the Tea Party as a threat to them. And they're right - it is a threat to them.
Posted by: Phil at April 19, 2010 08:31 AM (jr7Cb)
Posted by: 141 Driver at April 19, 2010 08:32 AM (LEynS)
Posted by: Bugler at April 19, 2010 08:33 AM (YCVBL)
And Air America's flagship show, during the Bush years was titled "Morning Sedition." Featuring noted scrunt Janeane Garafolo.
holy shit, I forgot all about that.
Posted by: Elroy Jetson at April 19, 2010 08:34 AM (4VHbi)
Do tell, Joe, you totalitarian cocksucker.
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 19, 2010 08:35 AM (rOd1g)
Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:35 AM (CfmlF)
Rush is being soft. It's a JUNTA. And that's no joke. They have broken any laws that bothered them in their pursuit of reorienting US power and killing all of the foundations upon which this nation was built. That is a textbook description of a junta.
The Indonesian Imbecile and his junta are just like the attempted coup by Zelaya that they supported so fervently and idiotically.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (N49h9)
So according to Heilemann, Bubba Clinton's Administration implemented policies with respect to Ruby Ridge and Waco that subsequently triggered Oklahoma City?
This is his argument?
Posted by: Fritz at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (GwPRU)
Wow, Republicans are really fighting back hard!
Posted by: pam at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (h8R9p)
Posted by: Bugler at April 19, 2010 08:36 AM (YCVBL)
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at April 19, 2010 08:37 AM (BbTsC)
Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:37 AM (V/EYZ)
Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:38 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: bulwark at April 19, 2010 08:38 AM (PO/9k)
Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:38 AM (V/EYZ)
Posted by: RushBabe at April 19, 2010 08:39 AM (LKkE8)
Posted by: remember when at April 19, 2010 08:39 AM (7uWb8)
Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:39 AM (V/EYZ)
"And Joe's right and I'll name another person, I'll name Rush Limbaugh who uses this phrase constantly and talks about the Obama administration as a regime," Heilemann said
Byron York has a piece today showing that Heilemann himself has called the Obama Administration a regime on 4 different occasions. Of course he was talking to Chris Matthews who called the Bush Administration a rigime.
These leftists have totally lost it .
Posted by: robtr at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Confused Hillary Supporter at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (OKZrE)
Wow, Republicans are really fighting back hard!
Posted by: pam at April 19, 2010 12:36 PM (h8R9p)
Scott Brown is getting to be truly annoying. I'm not sure if he's dumb or stupid, but he's living up to the sort of person who would endorse McShame the first day after winning his seat.
Sad ... and infuriating. I hope he is pounded with having to defend this idiotic stance of his, over and over, the fool.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (N49h9)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 08:40 AM (Rn9IH)
Posted by: S'norin desert at April 19, 2010 08:41 AM (vLwYg)
Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:41 AM (V/EYZ)
Posted by: Mr. Happy at April 19, 2010 08:41 AM (waaUg)
The amount of self-serving insanity that the left produces, followed by the media echo chamber, is borderline psychotic. It's one thing to want to change the world. The fact that I disagree with them on policy, and that I'm allowed to, is part of what makes America great.
However, their Orwellian turns of phrase are both mind boggling and frightening. And I really don't know what to do about it. My "flight or fight" reaction tends towards my Marine training, though. And that also scares me a bit.
Posted by: astrocanis at April 19, 2010 08:42 AM (GIMzg)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 19, 2010 08:42 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Left Wing Talking Point circa 2006 at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (V/EYZ)
Posted by: Free-Thinking Progressive at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (xJzIj)
Posted by: LeBron Steinman at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (mVrNC)
Posted by: kansas at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (mka2b)
And they're going to stop free speech very easily. It's being done now in Europe under the guise of "Hate Speech." Almost anything can be deemed "hate speech" if you want, and that's how they will silence any criticism of Teh Won.
Say you don't like a plan that Obama is touting? Well, he's sort of black, so not agreeing with a sort of black man is racist. Consequently, it's hateful to be racist, and voila! Racism=Hate Speech= soon to be illegal.
Simple, isn't it?
It's how they're stopping criticism of Islam as well.
Posted by: shibumi at April 19, 2010 08:43 AM (OKZrE)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (Rn9IH)
If you oppose the democrat's policies and openly say so with a clever sign at a tea party - you are no different than Timothy McVeigh, (and you're a racist).
Behold: the left-winger hypocrite thought process.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (k4bdL)
Bush Administration: Dissent = Patriotism
Obama Administration: Dissent = Sedition
Got it
Assholes..
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 08:44 AM (mR7mk)
Yeah, I never ever heard that from 2001-2008.
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 19, 2010 12:37 PM (rOd1g)
You have to wonder just who the idiots are. Are the idiots the really smart, in-the-know professionals, who honestly never heard this same kind of stuff, and much worse, during the Bush administration? Or are the idiots all the people out in TV land, who the in-the-know professionals are consciously lying to and trying to fool?
Posted by: FUBAR at April 19, 2010 08:45 AM (1fanL)
We'll see what we can do about that, bitch. I'll have Axelrod alert the media.
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 19, 2010 08:46 AM (mka2b)
Oh wait. Joe Klein didn't say shit about Hersh ranting like the lunatic fringe character he really is.
I'm shocked.
Posted by: wtfci at April 19, 2010 08:46 AM (+zo63)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 08:46 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Bugler at April 19, 2010 08:47 AM (YCVBL)
Posted by: FUBAR at April 19, 2010 08:47 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: Faye Kinnit at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (l1oyw)
Posted by: HobbieHawk at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (qzOby)
Posted by: Vic at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (r9H2O)
Posted by: astrocanis at April 19, 2010 12:42 PM (GIMzg)
The left is trying to push this nation to violence - just as they tried during the Town Halls by throwing out iditoic claims of racism and violence (clear lies). They just wanted to foment racial animus in this country and bring us to a boil.
The junta is trying to provoke the populace. The Precedent does this because all he ever cared about was exacting revenge on the US. The rest of his useful idiots in the junta are doing it, now, because they think it's their only chance - and it is. Things are going to get very, very dangerous.
And, what should have scared the living shit out of people, from the start, was the way these asswipes tell the most obvious and transparent lies right to our faces. That is a sign that there are no limits. Nothing is out of bounds for these America-hating creeps. They will push and push and push until things break.
This is why I've been saying that this nation is going to last the whole of the Indonesian Imbecile's term, intact. THe US is going to have to make a decision.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (N49h9)
1. Criticize criticism of Obama as Racist and Seditious
2. Spread the meme throughout state controlled media
3. Epic Wins in 2010 and 2012!
Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: shibumi at April 19, 2010 12:43 PM (OKZrE)
He talks about free speech all the time, but he seemed most upset by the fact that his patriotism was being questioned. (Frankly, knowing how nucking futs the left is, I wouldn't care what they thought of me.) More interesting was an aside he made last week that Zero's gang is gunning for internet regulation moreso than talk radio because the internet gives people the ability to organize.
Posted by: RushBabe at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (LKkE8)
Posted by: HeatherRadish recycles at April 19, 2010 08:48 AM (mR7mk)
Ya, but if you only have 3 listeners does that really count?
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 08:49 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: Free-Thinking Progressive at April 19, 2010 08:49 AM (xJzIj)
Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:50 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at April 19, 2010 08:50 AM (KWhJd)
So running against Rush, Palin and Beck is the strategy? So novel.
Posted by: Mr. Happy at April 19, 2010 08:50 AM (waaUg)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 19, 2010 12:44 PM (Rn9IH)
Yep. We speak of all sorts of "regimes", like diets, and there is nothing negative about them. The lefties aren't very good at English. No surprise for the Indonesian Imbecile, but it's a hoot to see the rest of the leftist dorks try to jump on this idiocy.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:51 AM (N49h9)
Well, we crowed long and hard about doing a fine job of protecting Americans by stamping out right-wingy extremaholic terroristic seditionismastic activities after cracking down on a militia with about 3 members, so, yeah!
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at April 19, 2010 08:52 AM (rOd1g)
True, but then again if he weren't a completely clueless, gibbering half-wit they never would have had him on NBC in the first place.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 08:52 AM (e8T35)
Since the Tea Party movement is Whites-only, talk of its 'sedition' must be... racist.
Right. The President is black, therefore sedition is super double ungood.
Gabe of Spades!
Ace of Gabes?
Gabe showed you his what?
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 19, 2010 08:54 AM (XdlcF)
This is why I've been saying that
this nation is going to last the whole of the Indonesian Imbecile's
term, intact. THe US is going to have to make a decision.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 12:48 PM (N49h9)
Er ... "NOT going to last"
I hate when that happens.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 08:54 AM (N49h9)
And more along the lines of "We totally own you with the intellectuality of our arguments";
Allahpundit is so clever to rub elbows with the likes of uber intellectual 'Hitch' as AP is honored to call him.
He has so fallen for the "British accent = credibility" crap and he wants atheism to be just like any other "special" interest.
To paraphrase a famous movie line, "When they're all special, then none of them will be."
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2010 08:54 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at April 19, 2010 12:52 PM (rOd1g)
Not impressed. Hey, until you roast 74 men, women and kids to death without an ounce of proof that their guilty of anything, your no Janet Reno lady.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 08:56 AM (e8T35)
Gabe of Spades!
Ace of Gabes?
Ace of Green Gables? Imagining an Ewok longing for puffed sleeves...
Posted by: HeatherRadish recycles at April 19, 2010 08:57 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:58 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Sedition Up! at April 19, 2010 08:59 AM (uFdnM)
Ace of Green Gables? Imagining an Ewok longing for puffed sleeves...
That was one of my all time fav books. Plus remember, Ann was a ginger....Uh oh, Italics are stuck...
Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 08:59 AM (CfmlF)
"If this be treason, make the most of it!" -- Patrick Henry
Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at April 19, 2010 09:01 AM (sGtp+)
I shit you not. That''s the new thing.
Maybe they ought to change that to Hypocrisy is Patriotic.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 09:01 AM (e8T35)
I shit you not. That''s the new thing.
So, the new one goes beside, above, or below the Coexist and the Obama bumper stickers? Where in relation to the peace sign, the Obama logo, the "Democrats Care About People", and the old Kerry Edwards sign?
Now I know why the back of a Pious is so damn big. It's not aerodynamics, it's so there's room to fit all the slogans!
Posted by: Jay in Ames at April 19, 2010 09:01 AM (UEEex)
Posted by: UGrev at April 19, 2010 09:04 AM (862vz)
Now I know why the back of a Pious is so damn big. It's not aerodynamics, it's so there's room to fit all the slogans!
Proof leftards are teh biggest hypocrites. They're sacrificing gas mileage with the drag and weight of all their bumper stickers. Why do libs hate Gaia?
Posted by: runningrn at April 19, 2010 09:06 AM (CfmlF)
How about if I said "Joe Klein rubs right up against being a pedophile and a cannibal"? Hey Joe, put down the chianti.
Apparently it's not an accusation or a slander if you say that they're close to committing a crime.
I'd call him a despicable little weasel, but I'd get sued by the weasels.
Posted by: Zimriel at April 19, 2010 09:07 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: ford at April 19, 2010 09:08 AM (Ki7fm)
If you're wondering what all those people with Dissent is Patriotic bumper stickers have done with them, they removed them and put on Peace is Patriotic stickers.
We have always been at war with EurEastasia!
Posted by: Zimriel at April 19, 2010 09:08 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: ford at April 19, 2010 09:10 AM (Ki7fm)
Klein promised a tinkle down Mathews' leg in return.
Posted by: CUS at April 19, 2010 09:11 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Tevye at April 19, 2010 09:11 AM (oSrBX)
Posted by: David Brooks at April 19, 2010 09:13 AM (Ki7fm)
Posted by: AE at April 19, 2010 09:15 AM (1bZ96)
Posted by: Crystal Grannie at April 19, 2010 09:15 AM (Ki7fm)
Sedition? Why not go whole hog and re-enact the Alien and Sedition Act. Gotta a lot of aliens or undocumenteds running around.
Sedition Reform Now!
Posted by: Mr. Barky at April 19, 2010 09:16 AM (qwK3S)
Oy, Tevye.
Actually, that would make an excellent You Tube video:
The Tradition of the left using words like Sedition and Regime.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 19, 2010 09:16 AM (XdlcF)
I'm not saying the guy is a pedophile, per se. But if you know his history, he's certainly come close to the line.
Posted by: Warden at April 19, 2010 09:18 AM (TIGTh)
The number of bumper stickers is inversely proportional to the intelligience of the driver.
Posted by: CUS at April 19, 2010 09:19 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: ford at April 19, 2010 09:20 AM (Ki7fm)
Treason doth never prosper.
Whats the reason?
For if it prosper
none dare call it treason.
(English epigramist/poet whose name I can't recall at the moment)
Posted by: Have Blue at April 19, 2010 09:24 AM (mV+es)
Posted by: iowavette at April 19, 2010 09:27 AM (0JTac)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 19, 2010 09:27 AM (F5/VW)
Total projection, as progressivesoverpeace has repeatedly pointed out on this blog, which is one of the left's most infuriating traits. On the one hand I say, "Meh, business as ususal for these whack jobs."
On the other hand, this would be a great opportunity for someone like a McCain or Michael Steele to stand up and say, "ENOUGH with these accusations of hate speech, incitement, racism and even sedition aginst people who love their country that are taking the time to speak out against an administration they disagree with. IOW,STFU already. It's an old and tired whine that Democrats trot out every time someone takes issue with their politics and says more about their lack of tolerance and fear of an open debate about ideas then anything else."
Why are Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh (and his brethren) the only ones that seemingly have the stones to stand up against this total BS the left throws out? Republicans, do we have any leaders out there? Anyone of you pols that are going to be begging the tea partiers for their support want to take a minute and defend them against this dreck? Crickets?
Posted by: RM at April 19, 2010 09:27 AM (1kwr2)
Sedition? Patriotism? Never heard of either one of 'em.
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at April 19, 2010 09:29 AM (F5/VW)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 19, 2010 09:30 AM (F5/VW)
Could never figure out how anyone could be a lib, considering the mental machinations it takes on a daily basis. For example, global warming is bad. Cow farts cause global warming. But we don't want to eat cows or kill cows because that's hurting animals and that's bad. Unless their fish - in which case that's ok - but not cute and cuddly animals, that's bad.
So we only want to eat plants. Like rice and lettuce and soybeans. See that's good. But we don't want to cut down other plants like trees, even when it gets so bad that were not clearing out the forests and their getting so overgrown that they catch fire and we lose millions of acres and cause millions in property damage from forest fires that could have been easily prevented.
And violence is bad. Except when your being violent to protest other violence, like war or nuclear weapons or people cutting down trees or driving vehicles that use to much gas, in which case violence is perfectly fine.
Makes my head hurt. Seriously, I just can't see how these people can deal with so much mental masturbation on a daily basis.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 09:33 AM (e8T35)
Why are Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh (and his brethren) the only ones that seemingly have the stones to stand up against this total BS the left throws out? Republicans, do we have any leaders out there?
They just keep playing at a game of being statesmen, of treating their opponents nicely, trying to work with them, yadda yadda yadda.
Showing up to a knife fight with a piece of bread in their hands...and offering to share it.
Insanity is still doing the same thing over and over and believing it will have a different outcome.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 19, 2010 09:34 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Killmore Spout at April 19, 2010 09:34 AM (mQMnK)
Posted by: CUS at April 19, 2010 01:19 PM (wOGfT)
So it would probably be a good idea to give a car sporting stickers for Obama and Kerry/Edwards (with an Al Franken) kicker a wide berth??
The crazy...It burns.......
Posted by: Portnoy at April 19, 2010 09:37 AM (mT7uC)
McCain only gets tough with Hayworth apparently. He's already running some super nasty attack ads - funny how when he was running against Obama he was all sweetness and light. I really hope he loses his primary bid and fades into obscurity, it would do the entire republican party a world of good.
Steele? I can only guess he's still out hawking his book - he's pretty much completely MIA as far as I can tell.
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 19, 2010 09:37 AM (e8T35)
You know how many furry "cute" animals are killed by agriculture every year?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 09:38 AM (mR7mk)
Too bad you can't stick crazy in an internal combustion engine and get the same efficiency as refined petroleum.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 19, 2010 09:39 AM (mR7mk)
I really hate these people. Look for the attacks to become more shrill and become a fever pitch in October. All with the so called MSM cheerleading.
I cannot wait until The One gets landslided in '12. One term, baby.
Posted by: fugazi at April 19, 2010 09:40 AM (4bvZp)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 19, 2010 09:44 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: Jean at April 19, 2010 09:46 AM (ouk5a)
Posted by: Greg at April 19, 2010 09:51 AM (nZXNe)
Posted by: mondonico at April 19, 2010 10:00 AM (ENJZq)
I take exception to the phrase "...spending the U.S. government into a hole it will take a generation to pay off."
I seriously doubt any one generation could possibly pay it off.
Yeah, "Joe Klein" is hopelessly drunk on Obama-flavored Kool-Aid.
Posted by: Optimizer at April 19, 2010 10:03 AM (JC+x3)
Standard orchestrated and coordinated outrage dating from a terrorist - a domestic terrorist not unlike William Ayers with more actual kills - who attacked 15 years ago.
The real seditionists are the ones who tried to murder delegates to a national political convention - the Republican Convention, may I add - and who supported in word and deed the attacks against recruitment stations and critical military supply. That is, the LEFT. They're projecting so much I'm surprised they haven't accidentally referred to Tim McVeigh as Hussein McVeigh.
Fact is we are a nosehair from suffering under Tyranny, and tyranny cannot hide behind calling opposition as seditious. Tyranny has no legitimacy, and none of Hussein's major moves (cap & trade, enslavement of doctors, attacks against insurance workers, etc) are themselves Constitutional. They in fact are anti-Constitutional and un-American and are themselves seditious in that they are intended to attack and destroy the Constitution.
They don't understand that if they ratchet this shit up as much as they are doing, they make it more likely for them to be treated as they demand real Americans be treated - because unlike what they are accusing Palin and Limbaugh with, they themselves are undoubtedly and inarguably guilty of crimes against the Constitution - deserving of the swiftest and most brutal justice imaginable.
I for one will be happy to see them deported to North Korea.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 19, 2010 10:05 AM (O6c08)
Sara Palin (she scares me!) and Rush Limbaugh (you don't actually listen to him, do you?) and Glenn Bech (he's nuts) and Ann Coulter (how hateful) all want Obama to fail which means they want the country to fail which means they're ...
... sorry. A real troll would've kept typing under the deluded belief that these are all original thoughts. I just can't muster up the enthusiasm to keep up the charade.
Yawn, indeed. Arrest them all for serditions and stuff.
Posted by: SubPontis at April 19, 2010 10:09 AM (cQyWA)
Almost like a pattern or something. How much money donated to the Clinton Library came from Dubai?
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 19, 2010 10:38 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Ken at April 19, 2010 01:01 PM (vT7rz)
Hmmm. It seems to me that the conduct of Congress did exactly this, along with the language and conduct of The Precedent. The health scare and Porkulus did more to incite rebellion against the (overreaching) authority of the state than anything.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 19, 2010 01:10 PM (N49h9)
"the definition of sedition which is conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state. And a lot of these statements, especially the ones coming from people like Glenn Beck and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, rub right up close to being seditious."
Against the authority of the state? Yeah, Joe. That makes sense if you're a dangerous fucking idiot who believes the "state" is all-powerful. The rest of us who have heard of something called the United States Constitution know the "states" or the "Federal government" are NOT all-powerful, and instead work FOR US, for "we the people". This isn't sedition, this is the fact that the goverments at federal, state, and local levels need to get smacked on the nose like your dog that just shit on the rug.
Posted by: SGT Dan at April 19, 2010 01:20 PM (GgXZc)
Imagine the power plant of tomorrow. Put a liberal and a conservative in a reactor, and the crazy emanated from the lib powers a city! For big cities, we use bigger instances (ie, Palin and Howard Dean, Obama and Paul Ryan, etc.).
Scientists, get on this! Make it so!
Posted by: Jay in Ames at April 19, 2010 01:44 PM (UEEex)
Posted by: Cack Finger at April 19, 2010 04:47 PM (TUBcJ)
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Posted by: Ed Anger at April 19, 2010 08:24 AM (7+pP9)