1

I always got a strong "flake" vibe, not to mention a strong "dumb as a bag of hammers" vibe to boot.

Hah!

I always got a "groan" vibe.  And a "please shut up" vibe.

2 Proposed: If you lose a campaign by more than 10%, you must stay out of the public eye for at least one year.

3

But I sort of don't think she is. Not completely. Her whole adult life has been focused on getting into the limelight. I do not see this impulse abating at any time in the future.

Plus, if she can think of another fake campaign, she gets to legitimately drill into that campaign honey pot to pay the bills.  Nice to have a slush fund for the unemployed times.

4 My question is where is she going to live now that she can't pay the rent on her house with campaign funds?

5 Christine O'Donnell.  Aieeeeeeeeeeee! Someone make the bad man stop!!::whimper:: Please?!?

6

 

Really, another re-hash of this tired issue?

7 But I sort of don't think she is. Not completely. Her whole adult life has been focused on getting into the limelight. I do not see this impulse abating at any time in the future.

Proposed: If you lose a campaign by more than 10%, you must stay out of the public eye for at least one year.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 12, 2010 02:24 PM (HicGG)

Oooookay....so stop writing threads about her. 

8 I always got a "groan" vibe.

That's funny because she gets "vibe" groans.

9 Not until you knuckle under and confess the truth about her.

10 Oh oh- another COD thread and my asbestos underoos are in the wash!

11

 

If that means you can't support him, even in Delaware, where only a RINO has a chance of winning, fine.

And you keep trotting this old mare out of the barn. I'll grant you that *maybe* a moderate would find an easier path to victory than an ardent conservative, but it isn't always the case. To wit: Rob Johnson in WI.

 

12 Didn't someone joke about a COD post following the Texas execution one?

13

Proposed: If you lose a campaign by more than 10%, you must stay out of the public eye for at least one year.

Posted by: DrewM

 

Good. That will despatch  Raese, McMahon and Fiorina as well.

14 Generally, I agree that these threads are a waste of time. But....if COD would stop doing interviews, then Ace would run out of material to write about.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 12, 2010 02:29 PM (OWjjx)

He's not required to write about her.

15 Hard to believe the number of dullards in Delaware...

16 Mike Caslte would have likely become like Arlin Specter and cuased huge headaches for us in senate. Ace, what is your opinion on a Snowe primary challenge? Is upgrading wort the risk in Maine? Inquiring minds want to know.

17 Who will rid me of this turbulent priest meddlesome attention whore?

18

'a book or reality tv'.

world of difference there. a book could give her credibility (depending on what she wrote).

but reality tv?

there's just NO reason for that 'career' path. ever.

actually if she drops out of politics I wouldn't mind seeing her on one of the VH1 shows. she could go on a date with Ochocinco. I envision them playing the Ouija board.

19 Ace, what is your opinion on a Snowe primary challenge? Is upgrading wort the risk in Maine? Inquiring minds want to know.

I'll throw my two cents in: unemployed witches need not apply. Quality candidates like Marco Rubio and Scott Brown are welcome.

20

But I sort of don't think she is. Not completely. Her whole adult life has been focused on getting into the limelight. I do not see this impulse abating at any time in the future.

Posted by: Ace at 02:22 PM


Why should it? If Elliot Spitzer can get a show on CNN then why shouldn't she? Considering what is on television today could any logical argument be made there is a person who should not be allowed on tv?

(Whatever that was.)

Keeping Mike Castle out of the Senate. After that it's all gravy.

21 Well Ace you ARE the chief/head moron

22 Posted by: Blue Hen at November 12, 2010 02:29 PM (R2fpr)

Fine with me. I really don't want to hear from people who got their asses kicked.

Of course, none of those three went and did a national media tour following their defeats. I think that speaks well of them. Hell, even crackpot Carl Paladino seems to have gone quietly back to whatever the hell it is he does when no one is looking.

23 I understand the angst people had about O'Donnell, but for me the greater service was getting a Specterite like Castle out of there, than actually winning the seat. I mean, it's not like HER SEAT ALONE decided the Senate, right? I think if we were going to try and get rid of some RINO types at any point ever, THIS was the year to do it. If not now, when? It's only going to get uphill from here, and if we didn't put our foot down in the strongest conservative election year surge to come in years then we'd hardly be able to do it when we're on the ropes. That said, it also reflects a failure of Castle and the Delaware establishment to nominate a candidate that was palatable to the GOP electorate there. After all, if he was so good, he would have won.

24 I rate her a 10 on the John Edwards fuck scale, but only that low because any woman that uses the word "masterbation" on TV just does it for me. Plus she said she practiced witchcraft which means you know she is DTF.

25 I've got it:  A reality show called "Don't Spank That Monkey!" where COD goes around helping compulsive onanists.

26 Keeping Mike Castle out of the Senate. After that it's all gravy.

Right. Better a thousand hard-core leftist Coons than even one imperfect Republican. We're right there with you buddy.

27

I have an idea!  Have her and the baloon boy family do a reality show together!

Yeah, I know.  I do it all the time.

28 Good for her.....I hope she becomes wildly popular and makes oodles of money and writes a book about her experience and sells millions of copies

and then still runs for office in DE and wins, next time...

it will drive all you h8ters mad...

29 I always got a strong "flake" vibe, not to mention a strong "dumb as a bag of hammers" vibe to boot.

You still wanna tap that shit, don'tcha Ace?

30

On the one hand, this topic is getting a little old.  On the other hand, no one is putting guns to our heads and forcing us to comment.

31 >>>Ace, what is your opinion on a Snowe primary challenge? Is upgrading wort the risk in Maine? Inquiring minds want to know If it's a strong-ish candidate with a chance of winning, yes, count me in. if it's just going to be some protest crap, then no, I'm against it and would end up supporting Snowe (reluctantly, as I supported Castle). Displacing Snowe means we probably lose the seat-- and I'm fine with that, even with a better underdog candidate so long as the underdog is just an underdog and not a hail-mary longshot or someone with no chance whatsoever. If it's another CO'D -- pass. If it's another Joe Miller-- sign me up. (Though honestly his positions really were too far out of the Alaska mainstream.) If it's someone in between -- well... if it's closer to Miller than C'OD, sign me up.

32 Maybe you would have been better off going with the US versus China rap video

This is beating a dog that died three times already to death yet again...

33 Wow, I think we went two whole days without a Christine O'Donnell post.

That has to be some kind of record here.  I was going into withdrawals.  Glad we got a new post to talk about it some more.

34 15 shots of Jim Bean and I would fornicate with her and watch reruns of Bewitched at the same time while my wife is attending a couples cancer patient support group alone.

35

DonÂ’t you just hate it that the lefties just canÂ’t drop the whole  John McCain is an idiot” narrative?

HotAir

36

And she is not required to continue to milk her 15 minutes. Clearly, she likes the attention. Fine. That is a typical trait of any politician (for the more extreme cases, see, Jackson, Jesse). But if you are going to continue to milk your 15 minutes, then do not be surprised when people who have a less than charitable view of you continue to write things that are less than charitable about you.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 12, 2010 02:35 PM (OWjjx)

It doesn't matter what she's doing.  Writing a post about wanting someone to get out of the limelight, which puts them IN the limelight, makes no sense.  Why draw more attention to her?

37 >>>You still wanna tap that shit, don'tcha Ace? No actually! Here's another thing that made me not like her -- I didn't get all the people claiming she was cute. I find her plain, and not even the sort of plain that's sort of attractive. There's another big split on the right-- whether you would hit that. (Assuming she'd let you hit it, which she wouldn't.) I would not hit that. Or of course I would (I'd hit most anything) but I would not like, put any effort into hitting that. I would let that hit ME, but that's hardly the standard.

38 I wish she'd move to a country that could appreciate her talents, like North Korea.

39 17 Mike Caslte would have likely become like Arlin Specter and cuased huge headaches for us in senate.

Ace, what is your opinion on a Snowe primary challenge? Is upgrading wort the risk in Maine? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 12, 2010 02:30 PM (YgHgm)

You did read the post ace made last night about primarying out some of the squishy RINOs in the Senate and ace in comments said he'd be willing to have Snowe kicked out by someone even if they were only 5% better, right?

40 Heck the HS kid who was told during Veterans week to take the flag off of his bicycle would have been good too...

beat beat beat the COD dog to death yet again....

41 I'm just glad she's in the past. So why are you bringing her into our present by writing a blog post dedicated to her? But I sort of don't think she is. Not completely. Her whole adult life has been focused on getting into the limelight. I do not see this impulse abating at any time in the future. Especially when bloggers continue to dedicate posts to her. People tend to go away when they are ignored.

42 This is beating a dog that died three times already to death yet again...

It's a multiple-zombie!!

43

Her whole adult life has been focused on getting into the limelight.

I'm not sure why you come to this conclusion, though I am sure that most people in politics (as well as most other public jobs) are pursuing the limelight far more than Christine O'Donnell.. Far, far more.

44 Is it as much fun to beat up on CO as it is to beat up on MMc?

45 Dammit, my HTML-skillz iz bad 2day.

46 Certain people seem to come out of nowhere, inexplicably... And then just never go away. Kathleen Parker, for example. CO'D, for another. She won't go quietly, will she?

47 It doesn't matter what she's doing. Writing a post about wanting someone to get out of the limelight, which puts them IN the limelight, makes no sense. Why draw more attention to her? Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2010 02:40 PM This.

48

Next stop? Dancing with the Stars.

And yeah, I'd hit.

49 >>Seriously........can someone here please defend poor Christine without resort to the Mike Castle card?


She didn't say she'd support Cap & Trade right before the primary.

50 it.

51

 

Meghan McCain or Christine O'Donnell?

52 I don't watch reality shows, but given the choice between a CO'D and the nekkid idiot with the mouse up his butt, I'm going with nekkid butt boy.

53 >>> It doesn't matter what she's doing. Writing a post about wanting someone to get out of the limelight, which puts them IN the limelight, makes no sense. Why draw more attention to her?

Yeah, Ace -- if you personally would just stop writing about her, she'd go away and not bother with her attention-grabbing ventures.

54 Before: Christine O'Donnell is teh Awesome, and you are a RINO squish if you think endorsing Castle is the right play. We need to send a message! No compromise! The Senate seat isn't as important as the message!

After: Why-o-why, Ace, do you have to keep bringing up the fact we endorsed a half-functioning retard to run for the United States Senate that got crushed in the general election and is now running around talking about cannibalism amongst conservatives on national TV?

Idiots.

55 Ace, well over at national review they have a report that an unnamed Mainer with ties to the tea party will announce a primary challenge to Snowe early next year. Will know soon enough.

56

I grant you Mike Castle was a RINO, of course. If that means you can't support him, even in Delaware, where only a RINO has a chance of winning, fine. I understand then you had no good choices and went with the one you thought at least had some upside to it. (Whatever that was.)

It gives the salutary message to the next crop of Northeastern RINOs that they need at least to sign up to fiscal responsibility if they want to avoid being booted in their primaries.  Seems like it's already giving Olympia Snowe a case of Fiscal Hawk Fever.

57 it.

Posted by: Bosk at November 12, 2010 02:44 PM (pUO5u)

So would.

58 @51: if she dances cheek-to-cheek with Bristol, I'm game. Face-to-face, too.

59 I.

60 The only thing I wouldn't do with this chick is let her cut my hair.

61 Yes it does. If she shuts up, goes away.......then there are no more threads about her.

And once again....no one is REQUIRED to write about what she's doing. 

62

One thing missing in your commentary - $$$$$.

This is a girl who isn't going to put in a hard's day work. TV is the best way to obtain easy money. I suspect her "campaign office" is going to have a new bathroom and a new bedroom large enough for a princess, but for some reason I still dont think that is going to be enough.

63

Meghan McCain or Christine O'Donnell?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 12, 2010 02:44 PM (uFokq)

It depends on the kind of "hitting" one is talking about. 

64 Thanks, Ace.

I had a serious COD jones goin' on.

65 Right. Better a thousand hard-core leftist Coons than even one imperfect Republican. We're right there with you buddy.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 12, 2010 02:35 PM (cxGtL)

Thanks. It's always nice to have support.

Going to the Senate was a life time achievement award for Castle. He would have spent his time there concerned about one thing, his legacy. Well, his legacy consisted of a House career of stabbing the Republican party in the back 50% of the time and giving cover to the Dems. So we need have no illusions as to what course Castle would take. Frankly his record on guns alone should have been enough to warrant the state party to back a primary challenger years before. He was far more of a gun grabber than even the Dems in DE. If a party can not find itself capable of removing such a questionable member from office then the least that could be done is to prevent that person from being promoted.

Having Coons in office may hurt the progress of the R agenda but it does nothing but hurt the party. The exact opposite would be true for Castle.

66

 

Posted by: ATaLIEN

No, asshole, it's the neverending i-told-you-so's.

67 "Delaware, where only a RINO has a chance of winning." Or, alternatively http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege1984.svg And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege1980.svg I'm not a history major but that's demonstrably untrue. We can have people that are conservative and enunciate principles of liberty anywhere. And when it's hard enough already to be trusted as fiscal conservatives, no one needs a guy like Castle to give the cover of bipartisanship to the left.

68 Uh oh. COD vs. RINO vs. AOSHQ I'm going into my lead-lined concrete bomb shelter.

69 Thanks I have a lot of stuff to do so at least I can walk away knowing nothing much is going on here.

70 65 >>> And once again....no one is REQUIRED to write about what she's doing.

And once again....no one is REQUIRED to read or comment on the threads about her.

71 @56: at least Nekkid Mouse Buttboy can do amazing things with a cursor using his butt, lol!

72

O'donnell is not the current problem, Ace is.

Castle was the old problem removed by O'donnell, and the voters.

Since unemployment is realistically over 10%, keeping options open for a paycheck is not what I would call dumb. 

Many here are catty bitches.

73

" I find her plain, and not even the sort of plain that's sort of attractive."

Not even in that ladybug outfit? I thought she looked really cute in that picture, and I'm only late-at-night-in-my-mind-gay.

74

it will drive all you h8ters mad...

It's not about *hating*. It's about envisioning the trainwreck and not being able to stop it.

have you seen Palin's promo clips for her show? in it, the voice over has her saying something like, 'I'd rather be out here in the wilderness than a stuffy political office'.

while I completely share her sentiment, you can't say stupid shit like that if you're EVER thinking of running for office. the sound clips on that will be perpetual.

 

75 Hell. I'd like to see Christine O'Donnell run for President, just to see how big a mess Ace's head explosion would be.

76 Let's have a thread that's less controversial...like SCOTUS deciding not to block DADT.

77 Ace, enough please.

78 Ace, your previous post came from an assertion of one of OJ's  attorney who insisted he was innocent, practically accusing the former President of Murder,
O'Donnell did as well as any Republican candidate running state wide in a dozen years, yes the people who vetted Biden, saw her as unfit.

79 I think Ace's continued obsession with her has as much staying power as she does...sheesh, everybody is considering a reality show, who cares if O'Donnel is?

80

while I completely share her sentiment, you can't say stupid shit like that if you're EVER thinking of running for office. the sound clips on that will be perpetual.

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 12, 2010 02:50 PM (pLTLS)

If I recall correctly, George Washington had the same attitude.

81 Oh, this thread is gonna end well.

* Goes back to the H2 to look at bewbs *

82 The rise of celebrity culture means that even small amounts of fame can translate into sizeable amounts of money. This increases the returns to running for office, even if you have no hope of winning.

Has Dennis Kucinch's wealth and power been increased by running a no-hope far-left longshot campaign for Prez? Look at the Rent is Too Damn High party guy who's trying to cash in on his 15 minutes.

I don't think Giuliani ever intends to really campaign for Prez seriously. But having his name in the mix is great for his business and speaker fees. He'll do a half-assed campaign then drop out after New Hampshire to keep his name alive another couple more years.

83 72 Forget the bunker, pull out a sock and just post jokes. As in wouldn't it be funny if someone bought me a tshirt that said "I cheated on my wife when she was diagnosed with cancer and all I got was this lousy tshirt"

84 >76 O'donnell is not the current problem, Ace is.

Come on. I don't always agree with Ace but it is his blog and he can post what he wants, a lot of people seem to like what he's doing. And, by the way, you don't have to read or comment on any of his posts.

85 The blogger doth protest too much, methinks.

86 85>>>If I recall correctly, George Washington had the same attitude.

And his sound clips resound to this day!

87 Frackin' back-benchers. COD could've won this election if she had support from the establishment Republican party, so-called "conservatives" like Chris Christie, and allegedly "conservative" blogs like this. Hasn't anyone read my book, "Liberty and Tyranny", for f**ks sake? What the establishment GOP is doing to Buckley conservatives like Christine O'Donnell is nothing short of a soft tyranny. Just like Obama. Primary them all! Now let me talk to you about Life Lock (tm)....

88

I always got a strong "flake" vibe, not to mention a strong "dumb as a bag of hammers" vibe to boot.

I haven't met her personally, but I've watch video interviews of her (NRO has two good video on youtube) and video of speeches at rallies. She seems more "normal person" than "flake". She's not the most articulate person in the world and maybe she says stuff inappropriately. But if we are to grade her, it ought to be graded on the Senate scale. Grading on that scale, she is easily in the top 30%.

89 I'm just glad she's in the past.

She can't be if you don't let her.

90 And once again....no one is REQUIRED to read or comment on the threads about her.

Posted by: Sweet Lucifer Morningstar at November 12, 2010 02:49 PM (q/Y+m)

That's not true.  I'm commenting on this thread to satisfy my sentence of 300 hours of community service. 

91 Pelvis, Keep hope alive! Keep hope alive! Actually, Pelvis, I'm not the problem; O'Donnell is, or was. it's amazing that to you guys everyone is to blamed except the candidate herself, or the Delaware voters who took stock of the situation and said, 'Oh yeah, this thick-witted imbecile gadfly is our champion." But sure, Pelvis, I'm the guy who brought her down. Not her weak and occasionally embarrassing debate performances, for example.

92 OMG....i just had the thought of Ace coming on here and saying that COD is his new BFF

i better go clean my house...

93 I despise her for her lack of respect for property rights. For a man, your penis is the only thing you'll truly ever own. Even in community property states, that's your's alone. If you want to bat your shit around, that's nobody's business but yours and the crack whore you paid to hold the video camera so you can upload it to YouPorn. It's MY body. MY choice.

94 I hear she's doing David Hasselhof, IYKWIMAITYD

the Cheeseburger Tango...........

95

Why, oh why, is that when ever anyone anywhere makes any critical comment about COD the first (and only) line of defense is "Mike Castle sucks". Mike Castle is done. Seriously........can someone here please defend poor Christine without resort to the Mike Castle card? Seriously. This thread is not about the Delaware primary - that sucker is done. Its about a media attention craving, permanent candidate for life doing what she can to keep herself in the limelight. Which, from what I can tell, has very little to do with stopping the evil Mike Castle from trashing the republic.

Posted by: Mallamutt

---

Who says I was defending COD??  I desperately wanted Castle to win the Delaware primary.  I was just repeating a good point I had heard on the Ricochet podcast a few weeks ago, where one of Bush's speechwriters, Bill McGurn, said that as Caslte got older, he'd likely become more and more liberal.

96 A ten-spot says COD will appear again on Bill Maher in the next six months.

97 Christine WHO?

_{(That's my new policy, and I'm sticking to it.)}

98 Never-ending I-told-you-so's are what you get when half the crowd was telling you that your candidate was unelectable, your side threw a collective, petulant bitch-fit, got your way, then got skull-fucked. 

If she had won I'm sure the comments here would have been overflowing with in your face comments.  Instead, now, just whiny little girls who don't want to hear any more about how they screwed up by pushing this flawed candidate.

Tough shit.  You were wrong.  Take it like a fucking man.

99 O'Donnell is Carrie Prejean.  At least Ms. Prejean had the good grace to disappear when her 15 minutes were up. 

And as for this:

I grant you Mike Castle was a RINO, of course. If that means you can't support him, even in Delaware, where only a RINO has a chance of winning, fine.

Okay, I've never lived in Delaware.  They elected Joe Biden, though, so they can't be very bright, can they?  The choice between Castle and Coons was, do you want someone who supports Obama in almost everything, or someone who REALLY supports Obama in almost everything?  Does principle mean nothing? It's kind of like a choice between being shot in the left side of the head, or the right side of the head.  The end result is pretty indistinguishable for the chooser.

100

He'll do a half-assed campaign then drop out after New Hampshire to keep his name alive another couple more years.

Drop out after New Hampshire? Hell, he didn't even drop in until Florida. Good strategy that was. "Let's wait until the 6th primary"

101

If I recall correctly, George Washington had the same attitude.

And IIRC, there was no youtube to continually loop his comments back in his day. Could be wrong on that, tough.

102 Oh, this thread is gonna end well. * Goes back to the H2 to look at bewbs * Smart man.

103 "But sure Pelvis, I'm the guy that brought her down." Ace First of all you are arguing with a guy named pelvis. Secondly you said she went down.

104

For a man, your penis is the only thing you'll truly ever own. Even in community property states, that's your's alone.

You really think so? 

105

For the Castle haters, just remember we need 4 seats just to get a bare majority now. I love the idealism, but it is the motivation of teenagers.

Scott Brown is in trouble, Ensign is a time bomb and we could lose the Maine seat if amateurs and fools from half way across the country decide to back a right wing head of lettuce. And there are X factors.

We just won six seats with the wind at our backs. In 2012, we need 4 seats and possibly as many as 6 seats just to get to a bare minimum of 51, which is crap. You cant do anything with 51 Senate seats. Besides, the Senate will still have Collins, Graham,... and other imperfect Republicans.

Bottom line: We need numbers to repeal ObamaCare and other liberal crap.

Keep dreaming about your pure party, while ObamaCare takes root and becomes intractable. You can fight the Republican "establishment". I will fight for my Republic.

106 She won't be in the past if you keep posting about her.

107 helping compulsive onanists. Everyone needs a hobby.

108 Huh. Ace keeps believing the crap the MSM feeds him. Keeps buying into their narrative.

And acts shocked when it turns out he was munching on a turd sandwich.

And then states his belief that next time, they'll give him the roast beef.

109 92 Frackin' back-benchers.

COD could've won this election if she had support from the establishment Republican party, so-called "conservatives" like Chris Christie, and allegedly "conservative" blogs like this.

Hasn't anyone read my book, "Liberty and Tyranny", for f**ks sake? What the establishment GOP is doing to Buckley conservatives like Christine O'Donnell is nothing short of a soft tyranny. Just like Obama. Primary them all!

Now let me talk to you about Life Lock (tm)....

Posted by: Mark Levin at November 12, 2010 02:54 PM (6uiF7)

I would just like to say that I think Mark Levin is the other side of the coin to David Frum.  Fuck them both.

110 i better go clean my house...

Posted by: curious at November 12, 2010 02:55 PM (p302b)

 

 

um while yer at it

111 >>Tough shit.  You were wrong.  Take it like a fucking man.


Lighten up Nancy.

112 Let me tell you about Gold, now that the Republican Establishment failed to dump tens of millions into Christine O'Donnell's campaign it's more important then ever...

113 if she looked like Sharon Angle or one of the ME scrunts, you'd all be wishing for her to just disappear forever.

114

For the Castle haters, just remember we need 4 seats just to get a bare majority now. I love the idealism, but it is the motivation of teenagers.

Castle wanted to enslave us all to the myth of global warming.

The previous "Republican" candidate for the senate from Delaware turned out to be campaigning for Obama on the side.

Pardon me if I have less than no confidence in the ability of the Delaware Republican Party apparat to pick anyone but a Democrat to run for office.

115 What's the point of attacking OR defending O'Donnell anymore? She's done. It's over. She's a nobody. Time to move on.

116 Some dudes dig banging crazy chicks, but me?  Eh, only under an assumed name.

117 Smart man. ------------------- Whoa, let's not go overboard.

118

Bottom line: We need numbers to repeal ObamaCare and other liberal crap.

Keep dreaming about your pure party, while ObamaCare takes root and becomes intractable. You can fight the Republican "establishment". I will fight for my Republic.

Posted by: Swamp_Yankee at November 12, 2010 02:58 PM (3DIBw)

Word up,  This thread should end your insight here

119 I can think of 15 Rs who'd I'd love to see get their own threads, but they aren't controversial enough within the conservative base to get 100+ comments.

120
I grant you Mike Castle was a RINO, of course.

Too bad he couldn't win his own primary. In the immortal words of Joe "Sheriff" Biden, that's a big f'n deal.

121

If you want to bat your shit around, that's nobody's business but yours and the crack whore you paid to hold the video camera so you can upload it to YouPorn.

It's MY body. MY choice.

EOJ - Dude, you have got to run for office.  Not neccessarily on that platfrom but that could be in there somewhere.

Classic.

122

I'm getting a strong "therapy" vibe.

123

And IIRC, there was no youtube to continually loop his comments back in his day. Could be wrong on that, tough.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 12, 2010 02:57 PM (pLTLS)

My point was that George Washington did not want to be President. He was dragged into it kicking and screaming, figuratively speaking. He did the job not because he wanted it, but he felt obligated to serve.

He did a damn good job in my opinion. So not liking being cooped up in an office is not a detriment to performance in that office. And fuck the sound bites, if you were to resurrect GW they would throw him in prison or the mental hospital.

124 Let me ask this of all you Christine O'Donnell detractors: WHY DO YOU HATE YOUR COUNTRY?

125
And if we in Florida had kow-towed to the powers-that-be, it would be Senator-elect Crist...

126 The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic.

127 Some dudes dig banging crazy chicks, but me? Eh, only under an assumed name. Oui, je suis d'accord.

128 Damn/   "should end WITH your insight"

I blame Bush for my dyslexia

129 COD is a fucking feminist retard.  She gave off this feminazi vibe that really pissed me the hell off and and hardcore conservative as I am, I would have pulled the lever for Castle if I had been a Delaware resident.

Please just go the fuck away O'Donnell.

130 Just think a bare 2 years ago I was this close to being President, and you guys think COD has problems? Ha, call me when she goes out fingerbanging on Friday nights while her husband lies shrivled up in a bed dying of cancer, and then has enough balls to use said cancer in order to get votes.

131 Anybody got any naked pictures of her?

132 I would just like to say that I think Mark Levin is the other side of the coin to David Frum.  Fuck them both.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2010 02:59 PM (oVQFe)

Jib, newsletter...some assembly required.

133

My point was that George Washington did not want to be President.

And in the end you're still making the comparison between Sarah Palin and....George Washington?!?

 

 

134 Meanwhile, with regards to things that actually matter:

Remember the UTenn student who got caught hacking into Palin's e-mail account during the election?  He got sentenced today.  One year with the judge recommending it be served in a halfway house, as well as a recommendation from the same judge that Kernell (the student in question) get mental health treatment as well.

Now, back to the poo flinging.

135 The left will give her every chance in the world to stay relevant.  She's their new "useful idiot".

136

We just won six seats with the wind at our backs. In 2012, we need 4 seats and possibly as many as 6 seats just to get to a bare minimum of 51, which is crap. You cant do anything with 51 Senate seats. Besides, the Senate will still have Collins, Graham,... and other imperfect Republicans.

Bottom line: We need numbers to repeal ObamaCare and other liberal crap.

Keep dreaming about your pure party, while ObamaCare takes root and becomes intractable. You can fight the Republican "establishment". I will fight for my Republic.

First, let me thank you for your future service. Second, what does 52 Senators get ya? 53? You need 60 for cloture genius and we ain't getting to 60.

137 Parker/Spitzer came first, and now we're ready for O'Donnell/Frum. CNN would clean up.

138 133....He did a damn good job in my opinion. So not liking being cooped up in an office is not a detriment to performance in that office. And fuck the sound bites, if you were to resurrect GW they would throw him in prison or the mental hospital.

I agree with you.

They'd probably do that to half of the Founders, considering how eclectic and eccentric they were. Yet look at what they accomplished.

139 Remember the UTenn student who got caught hacking into Palin's e-mail account during the election? He got sentenced today. One year with the judge recommending it be served in a halfway house, as well as a recommendation from the same judge that Kernell (the student in question) get mental health treatment as well. There is nothing like a slap on the wrist.

140 someone please enjoin rdbrewer from posting any more photos of Napolitano or whoever that God-awful ugly TSA beyatch is

please.............

141

"dumb as a bag of hammers"

And yet, somehow, she was able to defeat Karl Rove's wunder-candidate Mike Castle.  The Republican voters in Delaware seem to have been very familiar with both candidates, maybe because of all her years "seeking the limelight", and still they picked her over Castle.  Wonders never cease.

142 122 if she looked like Sharon Angle or one of the ME scrunts, you'd all be wishing for her to just disappear forever.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 12, 2010 03:00 PM (pLTLS)

Hell, if Delaware hadn't been the last primary before the election no one here would have been talking about it and the big lead in to the election cycle would have been Murcokeski in Alaska, and everyone wanting to string up ace and Drew would be praising them for their constant bashing of the power-hungry bitch.

143

Keep dreaming about your pure party, while ObamaCare takes root and becomes intractable. You can fight the Republican "establishment". I will fight for my Republic.

Posted by: Swamp_Yankee at November 12, 2010 02:58 PM (3DIBw)

It isn't about "purity", it's about having Senators who vote with us more often than they vote against us. Castle is well to the left of the Maine Sisters, Lindsey Graham, and Arlen Spectre (before he switched parties). Manchin will vote with us twice as often as Castle would have. Besides, the winner of that race is just a placeholder until 2012 when Biden's kid steps up to take his proper place in the Pantheon of Dynastic Nepotism.

144

"122 if she looked like Sharon Angle or one of the ME scrunts, you'd all be wishing for her to just disappear forever."

I would have tagged both Blueberries back in the day. They used to be hot. Age is cruel. Collins:   http://tinyurl.com/322fvss

 

145 Come on, now ... 142 comments and no one has suggested a wacky reality show for this girl?

You disappoint me.

I see her on those horrid "Smoking Gun presents" shows.

146 someone please enjoin rdbrewer from posting any more photos of Napolitano Wow. I thought that was Jake LaMotta.

147 151 >>> The Republican voters in Delaware seem to have been very familiar with both candidates, maybe because of all her years "seeking the limelight", and still they picked her over Castle. Wonders never cease.

And the general voting public in Delaware kicked her ass in favor of Coons. No wonder there.

148 I would rather start working on Democrat senators to support repeal.  Hard to imagine it ever happening without some help from the left.

Who says the TP can't primary Democrat candidates with more conservative challengers?  Am I naive?

149

And in the end you're still making the comparison between Sarah Palin and....George Washington?!?

  Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 12, 2010 03:05 PM (pLTLS)

 

Jesus Christ. I didn't compare a damn thing. I said fuck the sound bites, They don't have a bearing on someone's performance at a job. Who the hell wouldn't prefer fishing in Alaska to sitting around with a gang of windbags doing "sound bites" for the 6:00 o'clock news?

150 Why is Taylor Swift on my yahoo mail login page?

No ma'am, your shimmering gown will not tempt me into buying a Sony camera!

151
And if we in Florida had kow-towed to the powers-that-be, it would be Senator-elect Crist...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 12, 2010 03:02 PM (1hM1d

False analogy:  You had Rubio; Delaware had COD,  No comparison

152 in other completely unrelated news, the USPS reported an 8.5 billion loss for the year. get ready for a price jump on stamps.

153

153

Coons votes with us? Castle voted against ObamaCare and Stimulus. I'll keep my eye on the bearded Marxist.

154 Actually, Pelvis, I'm not the problem; O'Donnell is, or was.

it's amazing that to you guys everyone is to blamed except the candidate herself, or the Delaware voters who took stock of the situation and said, 'Oh yeah, this thick-witted imbecile gadfly is our champion."

But sure, Pelvis, I'm the guy who brought her down.

Not her weak and occasionally embarrassing debate performances, for example.

Posted by: ace

In the name of Christ in Heaven and Satan in Hell, this is pathetic. The snide comment about the Dealaware voters is particularly telling.

Poeple in Delaware have repeatedly tried to explain what happened here during the primary. Some of us begged for a change in tactics to secure Castle a victory. And the end result is this.

Combine a flawed candidate with a base pleasing list of positions (Ned Lamont anyone?) with an enraged party leadership and another candidate with a sense of entitlement (Leeeeeza Moocowski anyone?) and you get the primary we had. Take that winner into one of the shittiest media markets; fold in national support for a jerk who raised taxes repeatedly, and you get a Dem winning in a blue state.

But that is harder to chronicle than "she's nuts and dumb."

 

Here's a fun thought: the only outsiders who read the situation right in Delaware were the Democrats. The national punditry fucked up, as did the TPE.

155 160 >>> Why is Taylor Swift on my yahoo mail login page?

Okay, THAT I'd hit.

156 ^{_{What's a Meme?}}

157 "If it's another CO'D -- pass. If it's another Joe Miller-- sign me up. Posted by: ace at November 12, 2010 02:39 PM (nj1bB)" Uh huh. The Joe Miller who blew a lead? The Joe Miller who's currently claiming that ballots clearly marked for Murkowski shouldn't count for some reason? That Joe Miller? Believe me, I have no love for Princess Lisa and wish she'd lost. But Miller and CO'D both lost. But you continue to wave the Miller flag while still harping on O'Donnell. If "keeping the GOP Senate seat" is what matters, why are you willing to tolerate Castle but not Murkowski? Don't think about it too hard, Ace. They're rhetorical questions. We already know the answers. And for God's sake, if you want CO'D to go away, STOP THIS PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE SHIT OF POSTING ABOUT HER EVERY TIME SHE POPS UP IN SOME USELESS STORY ON THE WIRE.

158

while I completely share her sentiment, you can't say stupid shit like that if you're EVER thinking of running for office. the sound clips on that will be perpetual.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 12, 2010 02:50 PM (pLTLS)

It has the virtue of honesty.  Obama, by contrast, claims his goal is to be the best one-term President ever, but his actions prove that he'd rather be golfing than be making any executive decision whatsoever.

I personally am not very impressed with politicians whose life goal is to be politicians and who seem to be addicted to office.  We've got all sorts of term limits laws in California and all they accomplish is setting politicians on a perpetual merry-go-round of seeking other offices when they get term-limited out of the ones they're already in.

159 Roadking, I run from officers all the time. ???

160 Ace and some keep saying Delaware can only be won by a RINO or a Demohack.  Has it been considered that if the kooky over the top social con can get 40% of the vote, that a fiscal con/social moderate (IE someone willing and eager to reign in government and unopposed to masturbation...and I don't want to hear that that's being a RINO) who can advocate well on the same could likely nab the other 10.1%?  Or are we just throwing our hands into the air and saying, "Fuck it?"  Cause that's kinda weak sauce, yo.

There's a few million people in Delaware, right?  And not a one of them can advocate for our causes?  HAH!

We got two years until Chris Coons is up for reelection to a full six year term.  I say the hunt should be on for a proper candidate.  And I say we can beat that sombitch like a whiny little red headed stepchild.

161 the USPS reported an 8.5 billion loss for the year But the Post Office runs just like FedEx and UPS. And I won.

162 what does 52 Senators get ya? 53?

Control of committees where bad legislation like cap & trade, etc. can be bottled up forever. Other than that, not much.

163

500!

_{oops, jumped the gun a bit.}

164

Ace dear,

Are you stuck on stupid?

It is nobodies fault but YOURS that I see an O'donnell post on YOUR site.

It is my fault for coming here.

165

They don't have a bearing on someone's performance at a job

No,not at all.

No excuse me while I go have a discussion with half the conservatives I know that think it was unwise for her to quit her Governorship.

 

166 Maybe change the title:  I will have O'donnell....

167 If it's another candidate like the Joe Miller who's currently beclowning himself in the write-in counting, sign me up!

168 Yet, ever post election COD thread....the only real defense of COD is "Mike Castle sucks". If I over-generalized your point, my apologies.

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 12, 2010 02:58 PM (OWjjx)

Defense of what exactly? If COD served only one purpose as a candidate, keeping Castle out of the Senate, she was a success. She did that. Why does success require a defense? COD AND Urqhart were clearly primary winners because the majority of the R party in DE is fed up with their leadership and wished to show that. They did. Again, success.

If you mean her attempts to stay in the limelight, and hopefully make some cash, I would say the same. What defense is needed? There are a 100 people who are far dumber, crasser and cruder than COD on TV and I don't remember reading about anyone being surprised by that. The woman was already a commentator on cable so why should should not want a show?

169 CNN is reporting the Congress is planning to kick the tax rate can down the road. Extend current rates, but not make them permanent, for all brackets. So suicide is not endemic in Congress.

170 177 >>> excuse me while I go have a discussion with half the conservatives I know that think it was unwise for her to quit her Governorship.

Ooh! Ooh! Mistuh Kottuh!

[Waves hand furiously]

171 Well Ruedrich didn't accuse anyone of phoning in Death threats like Ross did in the Huff Po, but it's much the same, voter registrations have gone 71/1 against the GOP
in the six years that Protack, Ting, Swann, and O'Donnell have run, I don't think I've left anybody out

172 what does 52 Senators get ya? 53?

Control of committees where bad legislation like cap & trade, etc. can be bottled up forever. Other than that, not much.

Posted by: Andy at November 12, 2010 03:12 PM (5Rurq)

word up, redux.  Much angst on this thread there is.......

of course, why post about a complicated series of unfortunate events unique to Delaware in 2010?  What's the point of this thread, ace person?

173 I wanna see Mike Castle, Arlen Specter, Lisa Murkowski, Charlie Crist, the Maine girls, et.al., on ABC's WIPEOUT!  And I wanna see 'em get thrown into the mud over, and over, and over again...

174

I personally am not very impressed with politicians whose life goal is to be politicians and who seem to be addicted to office.

I agree 110% -- generally.And I think that's a quality that could get far -- again w/Generic Candidate X. But for 1,798 other image problems of this particular candidate, that message will not resonate.

And that is why a reality show just plays into every stupid stereotype that she's fought hard (at times) to combat. I just don't get it.Seems counterproductive.

175

First, let me thank you for your future service. Second, what does 52 Senators get ya? 53? You need 60 for cloture genius and we ain't getting to 60.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 12, 2010 03:06 PM (LLZiU)

Wow, your smart. I love the rational. We cant get to 60, so 51 is just as good 53, 54, 55, 56,...

The repeal of ObamaCare will require compromise, but now it will require more compromise. We could probably get people Manchin, Landrieu, Pryor and other moderate Dems to build the necessary coalition.

If we took nine in 2010 and played our cards rights in 2012, we'd be in the mid to high 50s.  But not now.

The whole chest thumping, repeal ObamaCare now if a bunch of crap. Defudning will only take you so far, the lawsuits are bunk and then you will have to use parliamentary tricks, which will also require  a lot more then 51 or 52. Compromise with the Mike Castles now or try it with the Harry Reids later.

 

176

Forget the bunker, pull out a sock and just post jokes. As in wouldn't it be funny if someone bought me a tshirt that said "I cheated on my wife when she was diagnosed with cancer and all I got was this lousy tshirt"

What about the extra poon?   You got that too. 

Don't be an ingrate.

177 I got a case of vanilla pudding that says you're wrong, but I'll agree that, if she goes all Meghan McCain on us, that you were correct all along.

178 DeLaWare ain't got nowhere near a million people.  3 counties, man.  It's blue, so think Brown.  Or, if you really insist on a conservative, find a much better candidate than COD

179 I wanna see Mike Castle, Arlen Specter, Lisa Murkowski, Charlie Crist, the Maine girls, et.al., on ABC's WIPEOUT! And I wanna see 'em get thrown into the mud Fully dressed. No swimsuits, please.

180 COD flame war again? Really???

No thanks, man. I'm out for the day.

181 52 senators gets you 52 mistresses, 52 prescriptions for viagra, and a delicious chocolate cookie.

182 I wanna see Mike Castle, Arlen Specter, Lisa Murkowski, Charlie Crist, the Maine girls, et.al., on ABC's WIPEOUT! And I wanna see 'em get thrown into the mud

Fully dressed. No swimsuits, please.

Posted by: George Orwell peeking out of the bomb shelter at November 12, 2010 03:21 PM (AZGON)

 

Amen brother.

183 "I grant you Mike Castle was a RINO, of course. If that means you can't support him, even in Delaware, where only a RINO has a chance of winning, fine. I understand then you had no good choices and went with the one you thought at least had some upside to it."

If a Republican is a slam dunk in any state, that's a sign that the Republican party and conservative people of that state should be looking for an electable, more conservative replacement for the primary process.

This goes for Senator Graham et al.

This doesn't mean "go teh stupid" in 100% of all cases. It is just that there should be serious efforts to primary most everyone most all the time. Christine was a mistake because she was flat unelectable. Fine. The key reason she was the slightest bit viable in the primary season is the Republican party's right flank was hanging out in the wind.

The exact same polls that pointed out "We should have gone with Castle, he was a slam dunk" are the same polls that should have meant "Wow, we should find someone 7% more conservative." Not "75% more conservative", just a smidge.

Adding 75% crazy is also just not the plan. I would have voted for Christine in the general because Senators aren't executives. But I would have voted for Castle (Or Graham, or most anyone with an "R" whatsoever) in the general also. Once the primary is FUBAR, you get what you get.

184 Compromise with the Mike Castles now or try it with the Harry Reids later.

 Posted by: Swamp_Yankee at November 12, 2010 03:19 PM (3DIBw)

yes, sometimes in politics you hold your nose and bargain hard.  Delaware was not Florida or Alaska--or even Colorado.

I know how much this hurts some of  you, but you need to compromise sometimes. Compromising too much is Very Bad but losing the only possibility of a R Senate seat is worse.

the TP, if it wanted to de-throne Castle ( which I understand completely ) should have found a much better candidate.  COD was and is a mess;  Messes rarely win Senate seats, although Al Franken managed to steal one.

185

No excuse me while I go have a discussion with half the conservatives I know that think it was unwise for her to quit her Governorship.

 Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 12, 2010 03:14 PM (pLTLS)

Do you really think she intends to run for President? I get the impression she has no intention of ever running for office again.

She is now set to make very good money doing whatever she wants, and influencing the national discussion while she's at it. No lawsuits, no having to deal with the press, except on her terms - if I was her, I'd enjoy my life, and let someone else grab the shitty end of the stick.

186 Ace obviously has a thing for COD, but is embarassed about. Like me and fat chicks. And, ugly chicks. And, slow-moving livestock.

187 Ace obviously has a thing for COD, but is embarassed about. Like me and fat chicks. And, ugly chicks. And, slow-moving livestock.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball

 

O/T: I've set several speed records.

188 199 Ace obviously has a thing for COD, but is embarassed about. Like me and fat chicks. And, ugly chicks. And, slow-moving livestock.

The sad thing is, she's still WAAAYYYY outta his league.

189

Do you really think she intends to run for President? I get the impression she has no intention of ever running for office again.

Umm......

190 If a Republican is a slam dunk in any state, that's a sign that the Republican party and conservative people of that state should be looking for an electable, more conservative replacement for the primary process.

This goes for Senator Graham et al.
Posted by: Al at November 12, 2010 03:24 PM (MzQOZ)

Huh? So since DeMint was a slam dunk, he should have been primaried to get an even more conservative choice?

I agree about Graham but obviously, SC and DE aren't remotely in the same league. You need to consier that state and the candidate. Sometimes slam dunks are good and you take 'em.

As for the GOP's rightwing being out in the air in DE, the reason for that is when it comes the to general election it's not a significant factor. You don't pander to or worry about a segment of the electorate that means nothing to final victory.

191 Really guys if you wanna talk about fucked up candidates COD doesn't hold a candle to me, the homosexual who runs gay prostitution rings out of his house, the guy with 90 k in his freezer, the douchebag who helps himself to no money down million dollar land deals, and the one who mysteriously has his opponents divorce rewcords unsealed. All but one of them won, and you guys wanna bash a chick for talking about masterbation and admitting to wanting to put a wooden broom between her legs and wear a black hat?

192

Winning elections is not about making a Frankenstein monster of policy positions.  Just remember:

Reagan won.

Goldwater lost.

193 I'm getting a strong "matches-gasoline-pissy arsonist' vibe.

194 someone is eating a McRib by me. It looks so wrong. So very, very wrong. and the smell. !!!???!!! I dunno understand all the love I read here about the thing.

195

I also judge my kids success by their grades. Maybe I should lower the standard and just require them to show up.

I also judge my business success as making money. Maybe I should lower my standards and just say "well, I didn't foreclosed on --- so I am good."

If that is the case, the Chicago Cubs have been very sucessful the last few years because they did not finish last.

 

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 12, 2010 03:20 PM (OWjjx)

Yes, because continuing to not only back a guy, but promote him,  who is supposed to be a member of your party but can't seem to do that more than half the time over 18 years relates to all that other crap in some way. Or not. I'm thinking not.

A political party isn't just a name or my team. It hasn't to stand for something.  If it's just about winning then there is little point to it.

196 A batter who runs the bases slowly or celebrates on the way around the bases is also considered to be taunting the pitcher. 

The most famous example of this may be the GiantsÂ’ Jeffrey Leonard, who slowly trotted the bases with one flap down (one arm was limp at his side) during the 1987 playoffs, before and after being plunked by Cardinals pitcher Bob Forsch.

Stay Classy!

197

I suspect this now belongs in here:

Anyone have the recipe for napalm?  My flamethrower is empty and I'm all out.

Napalm = 3 parts Christine O'Donnell, 1 part Accusatory False Generalities,      3 parts Inflamed Conservative Electorate and 3 parts Condescending Gratuitously Insulting Bloggers mixed in an Anything Goes Blog.

*Remember to wear your asbestos underoos.

198 "She may be a dumb bitch, but she's our dumb bitch" ain't much of a rallying cry. 

Maybe the establishment GOP and the Tea Party can reach a compromise where the former won't back RINOs and the latter won't offer vapid goofballs as an alternative.

199

You know who was a good centrist that the media loved and could win? John McCain!

 

Bwahhahahahhahaha

200 What I don't get is, people always say they want someone outside the system, who isn't a professional politician, etc. But then when one comes around, they throw them under the bus because they're a bit amateur and make some mistakes. Well, what do you expect when it's someone from outside the system? For someone to even occupy such a position demands a certain kind of personality and they won't have the pedigree of an establishment candidate, to boot. But if you keep rejecting them because they have some rough edges that they need to work out, then nothing will change.

201

 

#211    You first.

202 Ask Lindsay Graham's votes how they feel about Mike Castle's nomination run in a couple of years.

203 I know how much this hurts some of  you, but you need to compromise sometimes. Compromising too much is Very Bad but losing the only possibility of a R Senate seat is worse.

Why is this always reduced to such ridiculous extremes? There was no guarantee Castle was going to win and considering the GOTV the Dems did in the NE I hardly think that DE would have done worse. At best Castle had a very tough fight on his hands.

As far as compromise I think the DE R voters made it pretty clear they have been doing that for 18 years with Castle and the idea of promoting him to the Senate was just a bridge too far. People are only going to hold their noses for so long. Sooner or later they need to stop. If party leaders expect to have a say in when that is then they had better offer better choices then Castle or COD. Otherwise don't bitch and moan.

204

 

/soliloquy

And on and on it goes. While we argue about who can win what, the Democrats are making it a moot point. By the time we realize what happened, the Democrats will have stolen the 2012 election.

This is no time to take our eyes off those sneaky little shits.

\soliloquy

205 Sean Bielat Joe Miller Christine O'Donnell They all lost, but only one of these DIDN'T give Ace an Ewok chubby.

206

This shit is getting tedious.

207 Oh, Schizuki?

COD wasn't born of Sarah's womb. She'd run two times before. She was the creation of the weak Rep. Party in Delaware and the foster child of Mike Castle himself.
What, you thought the last GOP whale in a tiny state had no say so in the party's up and coming candidates (read sacrificial lambs)?

208 This is ridiculous! My boy doesn't need your critiques, you bag of dick eating jackasses!

209

Posted by: Swamp_Yankee at November 12, 2010 03:10 PM (3DIBw)

I never implied that Coons will ever vote with us.  My point is that people who vote with us less than half of the time are nothing but a drag on the party.  They allow the Dems to put the "bipartisan" label on whatever piece of shit legislation they vote with them on.

I'm not asking that we only nominate people with a 100% ACU score in every state.  I know there are places, in the northeast especially, where we have to settle for more moderate candidates.  I'm not even sure about primary-ing Olypia Snowe, and I'm against primary-ing Scott Brown.  But Castle isn't even close to being moderate, he's a flaming liberal.  We need to find qualified people who are somewhere in between Castle and COD ideologically in states like DE. 

In any case, I think the northeast is a lost cause with the exceptions of NH and ME, and we shouldn't worry about it too much.  We should be more focused on the Midwest and Great Lakes.  Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana all moved our way this year.  If you told me two years ago that conservative Republicans would win WI-7 (Sean Duffy) and MN-8 (Chip Cravack) in the next election I would have laughed in your face.

210

While I think COD is an opportunistic free-loader, I'm not down with re-hashing election fights. I look at it as lessons for the future.

For the record, my beef is with amateur activists and idiotic idealists, who meddle in states they no little about (especially blue states) and fuck things up.

One good thing about Sean Bielat losing big and COD getting crushed is that I dont have to worry about a Scott Brown primary anymore because there really was a growing faction of retards calling for his head and looking for a primary opponent because he hasnt been Jim DeMint's wingman. These are the same idiots that almost fucked up NH by spreading lies about Kelly Ayotte in the waning weeks of the campaign to nominate Ken Buck... whoops I mean Ovide Lamongtagne. (That's not fair to Ken. Although both were too extreme for their states, Buck was not a washed up has been, who lost both a Congressional race and a gubernatorial race by double digits).

Can you imagine if we only won five senate seats.

 

211 >>>And for God's sake, if you want CO'D to go away, STOP THIS PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE SHIT OF POSTING ABOUT HER EVERY TIME SHE POPS UP IN SOME USELESS STORY ON THE WIRE. You keep saying I'm passive aggressive (or others do). So let me put it plainly: You were wrong, not just about this particular case but about a rule you intend to continue to insist on, disastrously, going forward, and you will not concede, nor even reexamine, this rule. And I object to that kind of faith-based thinking. That is I hope not too passive.

212 Posted by: kidney at November 12, 2010 03:45 PM (ENRGu)

That's another good point about COD.  She was good enough for them to run as a sacrificial lamb against Biden in '08.  Why didn't any of her flakier exploits come to light then?  I realize she's a seriously flawed candidate, but it makes me sick the way the DE Repub establishment used her in '08 and then destroyed her in '10 with personal attacks.

213 And I object to that kind of faith-based thinking.

You tell 'em, sonnyboi!

*paints lips to look youthful*

214 God Airdale, I feel so sorry for you.  All of your posts must now be an insulting comment utilizing Ace or Drew's mom as your point of attack all because you are so butthurt that they aren't nearly as conservative as you wish they were to justify your stalkerish affection for them that puts the ewok sex with garbage to shame.

215

Posted by: Swamp_Yankee at November 12, 2010 03:52 PM (3DIBw)

I think you'll be surprised about Ayotte.  She's a pretty solid conservative.

Regarding Ken Buck, he was just a shitty candidate.  He ran a lousy campaign and couldn't refrain from repeatedly insulting women.  He threw a tantrum because Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, and Sarah Palin dared to hold an event in CO on the night of his coronation.  That clusterfuck of a Governor's race didn't help there either.

216 I'm in pain!!  Stop beating me for a day and see if that helps.

Other than that, if you don't like what I write, skip over it douchenozzle.

217 Wah, wah I'm being called out for being a little bitch.  My name is Airdale and I'm such a whiny little shit about people that don't agree with me about everything all my comments must be about them.

218 Buzz - This ain't about you. Butt out, turdknocker.

219 Boo hoo my name is Airdale and I don't like getting called out for my shitty comments that are only there to insult people and add nothing to any sort of conversation on the site.

220 Bitter wind stirs leaves
Tea has steeped long enough, yes?
Just let it go Ace

221 Boo hoo this, girlfriend!  Whenever you get done licking taint, I'll still be here, just like I was here before you, fuck-knuckle.

222 I don't know about anybody else but I want to see an Alvin Greene reality show.    In episode one, Alvin tries to find the remote control.

223
Perhaps it's time to get back to the 11^th amendment.  We have a common enemy that is far more dangerous than a Castle or an O'Donnell.  It's actually a benefit that we don't control both the House and the Senate at this moment in time.  We're in for rough times for the foreseeable future.  If Obama and the MSM can blame the R's when they were in the minority with no power, imagine how bad it would have been if we were the majority in both houses with out the ability to overcome a Presidential veto. We would have needed a super majority in the Senate anyways and Delaware wasn't the 51^st seat.

224 Regarding Ken Buck, he was just a shitty candidate.  He ran a lousy campaign and couldn't refrain from repeatedly insulting women.  He threw a tantrum because Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, and Sarah Palin dared to hold an event in CO on the night of his coronation.  That clusterfuck of a Governor's race didn't help there either.

Ken Buck seemed good to me.  I'm sorry he lost.  Especially to a douchenozzle like Bennett.

225 I'm just glad she's in the past. --------- Do you mean it this time???

226 235 I don't know about anybody else but I want to see an Alvin Greene reality show.    In episode one, Alvin tries to find the remote control.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 12, 2010 04:17 PM (xxgag)

Throw in Basil Marceaux and Carl Paladino and you've got a ratings goldmine.

227 You keep saying I'm passive aggressive (or others do). So let me put it plainly: You were wrong, not just about this particular case but about a rule you intend to continue to insist on, disastrously, going forward, and you will not concede, nor even reexamine, this rule.

And I object to that kind of faith-based thinking.

I think you might have mentioned this -- plainly -- several times before.  I really don't think there's any confusion on this point, and I seriously doubt you're changing anyone's mind by rehashing it through the prism of a failed candidate that no one wants to hear about any more.

Find a new angle.  Preferably after you concede that your bald, factless assertion that COD cost Angle and Buck their elections was either a cynical way to attract traffic or the emotive bleating of someone who has lost their objectivity.

228 Ken Buck seemed good to me.  I'm sorry he lost.  Especially to a douchenozzle like Bennett.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 12, 2010 04:19 PM (xxgag)

Did you hear that radio interview Bennett did right before election day?  He sounded like he was too drunk to stand up.

229

I think you'll be surprised about Ayotte.  She's a pretty solid conservative.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 12, 2010 04:04 PM (1Mbxk)

I wont be suprised. She actually front paged one of my blogs on her campaign site. I was defending her from the Tea Party insurgency and she posted it.

Kelly committed the sin of being backed by Judd Gregg and the NRSC. Of course, to some, this meant she sucked and needed to be taken down for a two-time loser, who New Hampshire voters rejected twice.

Jim DeMint pumped 500,000K into that race. Worthless. A people wonder why there is a certain backlash.

 

230 Did you hear that radio interview Bennett did right before election day?  He sounded like he was too drunk to stand up.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 12, 2010 04:26 PM (1Mbxk)

Yes, I did.  40 seconds of drunk, arrogant punk.

231 I don't know about anybody else but I want to see an Alvin Greene reality show.    In episode one, Alvin tries to find the remote control.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 12, 2010 04:17 PM (xxgag)

Throw in Basil Marceaux and Carl Paladino and you've got a ratings goldmine.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 12, 2010 04:24 PM (1Mbxk)

Every week Alvin and Basil get into mischief then Carl comes home and beats the crap out of them.

232

Republicans on the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works have called on Barbara Boxer to hold hearings on BrownerÂ’s data doctoring. (Teaching moment: This illustrates one of the bennies of being in the majority, chairmanships. With chairmanships, you get to set the agenda.) I'm sure Boxer wll get right on it. [rdbrewer]

Yes, because it is vitally important we expose this fraud on CSPAN2 in front of a live and captivated audience of tens or even dozens of people.

I'm inclined to think the same way about O'Donnell.

The perception of some folks is just locked in that box, hardcore.

233 I understand then you had no good choices and went with the one you thought at least had some upside to it. (Whatever that was.)

The upside is, a Senator Castle would have been a worse strategic liability to the GOP than a Senator Coons.  Say Castle won the primary and the general, and say we picked up 2 or 3 other Senate seats.  Mike Castle becomes the most important man in the US Senate.  The most likely defector in a split Senate always is.  He can swing the Senate as a whole, and even the Senate GOP, to the left in a way that even Harry Reid couldn't in this term.  He could provide a fig leaf of "bi-partisanship" to Obama and progressives in a cycle where there is a strong constituency in favor of fiscal conservatism.  In a cycle, in fact, where even Rush Limbaugh is openly threatening a third party push next election if the GOP doesn't get their shit together and start balancing the books instead of just talking about it.  Some degree of party purity is in fact a practical consideration for the next election.

I'm not a 30 seats in the Senate purist though.  I backed Scott Brown even knowing he never was a hard-right conservative.  I'd back someone even a step or two to the left of Scott Brown in a state like Delaware.  Mike Castle is not such a man.  He's a pro-cap and trade, black-listed by the NRA, big-spending, get along with Democrats "Republican."  The point of primary-ing him was, first, to preserve the GOP brand, and second, to let the party leadership and "strategists" like Karl Rove know there are limits to what we'll accept.  You (well, Rove and GOP headquarters, not you, Ace) want an anointed professional candidate, fine, but throw us a bone, meet us even a quarter of the way.  Don't just recruit the party man who's next in line, and who, incidentally, you happen to owe a favor for past services rendered, and act surprised when the Tea Party rallies behind someone talking about fiscal conservatism.

234 I grant you Mike Castle was a RINO, of course. If that means you can't support him, even in Delaware, where only a RINO has a chance of winning, fine. I understand then you had no good choices and went with the one you thought at least had some upside to it. (Whatever that was.) Has anyone ever noticed that its almost always the RINOs telling us that only a RINO can win; and they make damn sure that's what happens by not voting for the non-RINO who won the primary? And the upside was that we don't have another aisle-crosser providing cover and obscuring the important differences between the parties, what they stand for and the direction they would take the country. And I'm not saying Ace is a RINO, I'm saying he's bought into a self-serving narrative promoted by RINOs and D.C. Partei über alles establishment types that I don't think has been adequately tested.

235

I'll give you the flake vibe thing, but dumb as a bag of hammers is way too far. Her interviews with Greta were very good and she seemed to know a lot about a lot of subjects.

236

And I'm not saying Ace is a RINO, I'm saying he's bought into a self-serving narrative promoted by RINOs and D.C. Partei über alles establishment types that I don't think has been adequately tested.

Posted by: Schreiber at November 12, 2010 04:36 PM (XLj6+)

I don't think Ace did.  I think he's always been of the mindset of running and supporting the most conservative candidate that can win in the general.  And that in the Delaware Primary, there was Castle, an obvious liberal, and O'Donnell, more conservative than the population of Delaware would like to vote for.  I think you could say that Ace really wish he didn't have to pick Castle and that he would have loved a more reasonable conservative option but O'Donnell was just too much of an overshoot, so it was a case of go with the win, or go with principle. 

237 My question is where is she going to live now that she can't pay the rent on her house with campaign funds?

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 12, 2010 02:26 PM (cxGtL)

I'm sure 4 million dollars will hold her over for a while.

238 Ace, you are right on this. I don't care what they say. And if conservatives wanted to primary Castle, it would have been nice if they had come up with someone who was not always trying to get herself on TV.

It kind of makes you wonder about Delaware.

239 Lacey,

OK, I read the article you posted and I can see why you think of her as a candidate. However, the "if" she stated leaves her a hole big enough to drive a bus through. I think her default position is 'not running," although I admit a big part of that is my wishful thinking

"If no one else is conservative enough, I'll run," is not the same to me as "count me in," or even "I'm exploring my options."

I like her a lot, but really hope she doesn't run. I don't think she can win, and I think she is far more valuable as an eminence grise, or as the conscience of the GOP conservative wing.

240 "My point was that George Washington did not want to be President." --- Of course, as everyone knows, George Washington quit as Commander of the Continental Army half-way through the War to get his own reality show, showing life for him and his family on a Virginia plantation... That's presidential timber, right there...

241

Yeah, Entropy.  No one watches those committee hearings.  That's the measure.  And it really wouldn't matter which federal judges come up for a vote, for example.  Who needs chairmanships!?  My bad.

242 Ace, you really need to be neutered, or have your internet access taken away.
Fucking tool...

243 224 >>>And for God's sake, if you want CO'D to go away, STOP THIS PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE SHIT OF POSTING ABOUT HER EVERY TIME SHE POPS UP IN SOME USELESS STORY ON THE WIRE.

You keep saying I'm passive aggressive (or others do). So let me put it plainly: You were wrong, not just about this particular case but about a rule you intend to continue to insist on, disastrously, going forward, and you will not concede, nor even reexamine, this rule.

And I object to that kind of faith-based thinking.

That is I hope not too passive.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2010 03:56 PM (nj1bB)

In other words: Nah, nah-a-nah, nah- nah- nah. I got puddin' and you don't. So, not P-A- just juvenile.

244

And again, you can't defend COD without resorting to the Mike Castle sucks card. You can't make an argument that she was a good candidate or that she had a chance to win.

I can, but it's a moot point.

You believe every negative thing you heard about her.

Why, I cannot say. But god knows, narratives never lie and the media shoots straight as an honest arbitor of facts.

A lot of you are snarking about her taking campaign cash to pay her rent. It's tiresome and moot and besides the point. But..

Do you know what she actually did? Do you care?

245 It is nothing more than "well...at least she isn't a RINO...she stands for something."

So why don't we just nominate the Democrat candidate to also run as the Republican? We're guaran-damn-teed that our pick will win every time.

Or, hey, before you run around calling O'Donnel a flake, maybe you should run for Senate.

246 < i> it was a case of go with the win, or go with principle. buzzion, I'll grant you that's a harder choice for some than others. Me? After 2 Bushes, a Dole, Lott and a DeLay, I'm done with victoria gratia victoriae and playing the part of Pyrrhus.

247 I don't care if Ace likes her or not. I'm settin' the DVR for every episode of "Christine O'Donnell's Delaware."

248

Defense #1-She ran, she won the primary.

The fact that you parrot Rove, does not make it true.  Further, saying/typing Castle would have won does not make it true. 

The GOP lost in a blue state. Shocking.

And Castle still sucks, and you are not as smart as you think.

249

Yeah, Entropy.  No one watches those committee hearings.  That's the measure.  And it really wouldn't matter which federal judges come up for a vote, for example.  Who needs chairmanships!?  My bad.

RD, it ain't nothing personal, but I'm just not eye to eye with you on these sort of issues any more.

Chairmanships are ultimately meaningless. So are elections, given the current dynamic. I have history books, you know. I recall the 20th century. It don't much matter which party you vote for, things move in one direction.

They didn't do it with chairmanships, and they didn't do it by always having majorities. It wasn't, strictly, even limited to the political.

You want to be even more dilligent in trying the same thing you've been trying always. And it's never done much for you yet. But this time will be different, I'm sure.

Seriously, WTF is gonna happen if they DO hold the hearing? You think the MSM is going to drive a truck through the holes in AGW theory and set the public straight? Ppssh.

Red meat for wingnuts to cheer and rah-rah. Preaching aimed straight at the choir. Yeah, we showed them this time! Nothing changes.

The little "it's only because I love you, babe" that makes the beatings tolerable.

250

History is littered with a pile of political parties that could not be sustained becuse they could not win.

You have it in your head that if you only fight battles you can win, you'll win the war? History says it isn't so.

251

Joking aside, Don Pardo will be giving parting gifts out to those who come down with cancer under the new healthcare system.

It will be vicodin. Maybe not right away, but eventually.

That's the parting gift bud, and if I get one, you do too. Keep it in mind.

I'm fine with TD dances, they're well earned... I'm just not sure what you think you've got to gloat about.

252 Thank you, Christine!  It's not only every democrat who won this past election who is thankful for you, Ms. O'Donnell.

253 I still really believe that if this wasn't the last primary before the general all the people bitching about piling on against O'Donnell wouldn't be saying anything about this thread and Ace would be getting hailed as the most awesome guy ever for his constant blasting of Murcokeski.

254

Hey Mark @267

Oppose ObamaCare, cap and trade, card check, amnesty, all new taxes, civlian trials for terrorists, liberal judges and the DISCLOSE ACT.

Defend the border, Jan Brewer, DADT, the troops in combat, the war against terror.

Win Barney Frank's district.

And its still not enough. I listened to my Barney Frank, Deval Patrick loving liberal constituency on two issues.

But its okay. You and I can be "unprincipled" "squishes" and "mushes" who infest and dilute the GOP and stand for nothing together.

 

 

255 Continuing to nominate the CODs in races thye have no chance of winning is counterproductive to a vibrant political party. Except, of course, when they really have no chance of winning. I mean, we wouldn't want the right kind of Republican to lose. It's in those sure loser races that we want the COD's to run so we can say "see, they have no chance of winning." Then the right kind of Republican can get elected when the seat opens up. Sure, we have problems with the wrong type of Republican thinking that just because we've supported them in the past, we'll support them now. But sooner or later, they figure out their place. Isn't that right Mark?

256 Oppose ObamaCare, cap and trade, card check, amnesty, all new taxes, civlian trials for terrorists, liberal judges and the DISCLOSE ACT. Defend the border, Jan Brewer, DADT, the troops in combat, the war against terror. Hey Scott @ 274 Mike Castle ain't that guy

257

276

You wouldnt know it if you read all the hate mail I recieve. Haven't you heard I'm a no good RINO traitor. The same people who like tilting windmills in Delaware are trying to mount a primary challenge to me here in The People's Republic of Massachusetts. Or at least they were.

 

258

278

Quit talking shit about my dad or I'll challenge you and your whiney, nasally bitchy voice to a sing off.

259

Hey Mark, the schtict would be funnier coming from Arlen Specter.

Does anybody know of a freewheelling consevative site that is funny?

 

260 Tea bagging whore.

261 Should have been Tea Bagging Media whore. My apologies.

262 I was hoping her next step would be the tastefully done Playboy spread, and then the reality tv show.

263 You know what makes people look really, really cool?

Saying "This" in the comments section of a blog. Fuck yeah. Never gets old.

264 289 You know what makes people look really, really cool?

Saying "This" in the comments section of a blog. Fuck yeah. Never gets old.

Posted by: Rigor Mortis at November 12, 2010 06:48 PM (zNxf/)

This.

265 "I'm just glad she's in the past. But I sort of don't think she is."

Annnd the Unintentional Irony award goes to Mr. "of Spades"

You are starting to sound as obsessed with O'Donnell as Charles J. is with  the Creationists. I tell you what, you learn how to control people's votes in a Republic without looking like your own worst enemy, then get back to us on that.

266

Nominate a few more COD's and you won't have to even worry about the winning stuff - which should make it easy for you.

Yes - nominating and electing good conservatives should always be the goal. But, if the good electable conservative isn't available then I think I would rather have 1/2 a loaf than no loaf.

And again, you can't defend COD without resorting to the Mike Castle sucks card. You can't make an argument that she was a good candidate or that she had a chance to win. It is nothing more than "well...at least she isn't a RINO...she stands for something." 

Thanks for playing, rocks. Don Pardo, do we have any parting gifts............

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 12, 2010 04:58 PM (OWjjx)

Why are we always presented with this ridiculous dynamic? As if candidates are chosen by the national party or something? You want to insure you have no more CODs? Then tell the people at a national level to do something about guys like Mike Castle. More importantly tell then to do something about the guys in control of the state parties who reduce the choice to something like Mike Castle VS COD by pushing a Mike Castle to begin with.

you can't defend COD without resorting to the Mike Castle sucks card.

What other defense is needed? She won the primary didn't she? Mike Castle is not going to be a Senator. It didn't matter if she was a good candidate and everybody at least has some shot at winning. The women was a vehicle for DE R voters anger and she was a complete success at it. What other defense do you need exactly?  At the very least she's lit a fire under the asses of the R voters in DE and put the fear of God into a state party that stopped wondering what their members thought about things years ago.. For the first time in 20 some odd years they cast a vote they thought actually meant something.

You say you'll take half a loaf. Fine. McMahon, Brown, Fiorina....these are half a loaf. Mike Castle was an old moldy loaf with the potential to spread that mold to the few good loaves you have and even worse you want to put him with your biggest best loaves. At some point you have to throw out that old moldy loaf. Even when you don't have another loaf to replace it.

267 Yeah, get off the "Mike Castle Sucks" train!

Join us here on the "COD is Dumb as a bag of hammers and so is the Tea Party train!"

We hope to gather a similar demographic as the John Stewart rally. Because, hey, we like bagging on COD. And we plan on riding that train all the way to success in 2010.  Just as soon as enough people notice us.

268 Thanks Ace, it had to be said.

269 once you get off the “Mike Castle Sucks” train.

 

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 12, 2010 07:20 PM (OWjjx)

I have no intention of getting of the Mike Castle sucks train. The Mike Castle sucks train is the only one that leads to the better candidates and better government station.

270 She makes us look normal.

271

I think you made a detour at 'batshit crazy grifter con-artist dumbfuck' junction. In fairness, that's probably because COD didn't pay for the train's fuel.

Posted by: The Conductor at November 12, 2010 07:45 PM (uCjoj)

Yes, but only to drop off guys like Mike Castle.

272 And unlike Christine O'Donnell, Joseph Biden graduated at the top of his class at Harvard Law School.  If by "top of his class at Harvard Law", you mean 75th out of 86 at Syracuse University.

273 What kind of response exactly are you looking for Mallamutt?

Did she help the Tea party? Yes. The Tea Party isn't a branch of the Republican party. Considering one of the main goals of the Tea Party is to get guys like Mike Castle out of office she definitely advanced the goals of the Tea party.


I'm sorry but I just don't get where you are going here or what you expect me to say.

A warm bucket of spit would be a success if it beat Mike Castle in a primary. 

And no I don't think she hurt any other candidates anywhere. It was dumb when Ace suggested it and it's dumb now. If the people of DE or CO want to elect a nut job it's their business. The average voter doesn't even keep well informed about their own candidates let alone those in other states.

274 Oh thank God. I haven't heard a good O'Donnell witch joke in weeks.

275 All of this talk about "meddling"  in the Delaware primary.  What exactly did this "meddling consist of?"

As far as I can determine,  it was some Tea party people from outside the state donating money to her,  along with a few talk radio hosts pointing out that Castle was really liberal and had ALREADY VOTED FOR CAP AND TRADE IN THE HOUSE.  That meant he WOULD vote for it in the Senate.

That's meddling?  What about sending money to Scott Brown or Michelle Bachman?  What about columnists and talk radio people talking about Rubio and West in favorable terms.

The time to make the case against O'Donnell was before the primary.  After she won,  the only intelligent choice was to act like she was neater than sliced bread and save your criticisms until after the election ,  on the off chance that she might win.

But the criticism by establishment Republicans like Rove (who I still think worked for castle and was mad because he lost) and blogs never gave her a chance to try to capture that outside chance.

The Delaware voters voted for her.  No one put a gun to their heads.   She was the candidate.  It was our responsibility to back her.  Was she the sharpest knife in the drawer?  Probably not,  but AL FRANKEN got elected,  and Patty Murray has the IQ of a turnip,  so why worry about her flakiness or ijntellect.

The only important thing about her is that she would have voted AGAINST cap and trade and FOR extending the Bush tax cuts.     She also would have been a vote FOR Obamacare's repeal.

This is all I have to say on this very tedious subject,  which I agree with someone up thread is beginning to look like an obsession.

Maybe I should start a blog where once a week I gripe about how McCain wound up as the 2008 nominee.  That was SUCH a success.

276

Posted by: Mallamutt at November 12, 2010 08:37 PM (OWjjx)

Oh I get it now. You expect me to say  I agree with you because you keep repeating the same crap.  Is there some evidence she hurt anything? Is there some exit poll showing it? Are the candidates who lost blaming her?   As far as the soft squishy middle the majority of them didn't even know where their candidates stood on most issues let alone who the hell COD is.

This isn't a momentary thrill and lessons get taught each and every time people forget them. If you are going to keep running guys with a record like Mike Castle they better run as Democrats because they aren't going to win as Republicans.

And as far as her hanging around what do you think should be done about it?
I get it. She's just supposed to shut up and go away until you need her to vote for a Mike Castle I guess. Yeah I don't think she's going to do it. I don't expect many others will either. 

And I know it's a long term game. Everyone does. They been playing your long term game and voting guys like Mike Castle into office for 20 years. At some point it stops. In DE  and other places it was this year. In 2012 it will be other places. It doesn't matter who it's good for or batnds or anything else. it was good for those R primary voters when they marked that oval. It's the only good they are concerned with after 18 years of Mike Castle.

You really want to help the movement? Stop worrying about COD every time she says something and start getting some decent candidates to buck the systems in their states because if they keep pushing people like Mike Castle you are going to find yourselves kvetching over a whole new crop of COD in 2012. 

You keep suggesting the lesson has been learned. Every time you go on about COD you make clear it wasn't. The lesson of COD was Mike Castle needed to not be a Republican senator. If you are still somehow thinking he should have been then you didn't learn the lesson.

277

'COD became a national joke. Please do not pretend she was anything other than a national joke.'

We, the electorate, are the National Joke. We who insist upon perfect candidates, such as Reid and Pelosi, are the joke.  Those who get their clothes in a twist because a candidate isn't perfect are our real problem.

Politicians, in case some of us haven't noticed, are not perfect even though they are perfect candidates. Some, who aren't perfect candidates, may very well be perfect politicians.

Most folks won't even run for office due to our stringent requirements.  We lose.

COD did, in fact, rid our body politic of one progressive, Castle.  That's success enough for me.  Those of you playing coulda, shoulda and woulda have nothing to show for your efforts.

278 re 311 COD became a national joke. ... But in the interim, she advanced the myth (and allowed others to advance the narrative) that the Tea Party is chocked full of nuts that donÂ’t support masturbation, or have weird religious beliefs or are slightly nuts. O'Donnell is Roman Catholic. She was raised RC, spent some time as an evangelical, and returned to the Catholic church. Her comments about sexual behavior are straight from the catechism. I have no comments about her politics, as I did not follow this race AT ALL. (Too much infighting and general nastiness.) But why do we believe the media when they don't even list her religion correctly?

279 This is reaching Sarah-Palin/Bush like levels of self beclowning derangement syndrome. That evil O'Donnell "bitch" really surprised-fucked you guys hard and now you can't forget her. You want sneak up and sniff her shadow to see if it still smells as cold and spooky as it did THAT NIGHT. She ran, she beat your creepy weak link crossover-likely old dude in the primary, and she then lost against the other dude while you loudly told anyone who would listen people that she was crazy and probably couldn't run a lemonade stand. It happens. Get over it. Using small crumbs of nothing to try and fight that lost fight, over and over again doesn't make her look like a huge ass hole or you guys look like geniuses bursting with wisdom. It's just sad bitter useless inherently divisive stuff ABOUT a past event that we can't agree on. Please promise that you'll wipe away your " angry frustrated pussy tears" someday and let it go, or she'll become an immortal doofus magnet of legend and you'll never be rid of her. She'll be like another John MCCain only without a Senate Seat. Also please don't imagine that O'Donnell's loss somehow justifies the leadership of the Republican party spending party donations on their never-ending search to find the next generation of Warren Specters, Lindsey Grahams, and Olivia Snows on the misguided theory that those types hold back the Murtha's and Franks on the other side when the chips are down. 'Cause that sure worked out GREATin '06 -'09 didn't it?

280 Half of the bullshit you "COD cost us the Senate" folks are floating comes right out of the leftwing garbage can. I'm not sure how much of a following you expect when you parrot that crap.  And of course, then you go on to claim so many of us are blind-loyal dumbfzcks, or something, for supporting whoever won the friggin' primary. No, we couldn't be objectively supporting the primary winner. Me must, by damn, be true believers in the greatness of O'Donnell, and just blinded by all the lies. Yeah, that's working. Sure.

Especially the COD sock puppets. Kinda huffpo's the place up a bit. Maybe Ace can hang a few of the old Chimpy McHitlerburton posters up to go with that.

Why do you believe the electorate is somehow to be controlled into voting for whoever would have won "us" the Senate? Good luck with that. If you could just look around to see that this Tea Party you are so bent on hammering (for being "purists" or "stupid" or whatever accusation makes you happy today) was the prime mover in this election, maybe you'll realize this isn't the same old game.

It stopped being about "Republicans" a long time ago. But you go ahead and play that tune. Go on and make fun of people for getting behind a return to smaller government. Sell that soothsayer's line of snake oil about "building a team" and "biding your time" and "Sarah should run for dogcatcher, 'cause that will drive the Libs crazy." At some point you may just catch on that your accordion is leaking, and the band you're in has no rhythm.

It would be more productive to reward good behavior. Like congratulating the newly elected and then voting in better ones whenever you can.  But if you can't manage that, it would be nice if you'd stop the freaking attacks. A while back this place was generating a whiff of "Free Republic," and that was worrysome enough. Now the place seems more like Little Green Intolerance Balls.

No rhythm. That has to be the worst.

281 Funny, I got a strong "asshole-elitist-wanna-be-loser" vibe from you ACE!

282 Except, of course, when they really have no chance of winning. I mean, we wouldn't want the right kind of Republican to lose. It's in those sure loser races that we want the COD's to run so we can say "see, they have no chance of winning." Then the right kind of Republican can get elected when the seat opens up. Sure, we have problems with the wrong type of Republican thinking that just because we've supported them in the past, we'll support them now. But sooner or later, they figure out their place. Isn't that right Mark? So…………O’Donnell is a good candidate because she got crushed running in a bad year for Republicans? So……the logic goes, if she lost by 30 in a Democratic year, she can keep it to 15 in a good Republican year. Sometimes you run a race you know you are going to lose in order to prevail in the next race you think you can win. Best recent example: Mitt Romney. Romney took on Ted Kennedy the cycle before running for governor. Overall, it was a benefit to Romney…he got some experience, name recognition. etc. However, to say “Well, Christine deserves it because she tried in 2006” is really, really specious logic. If that is the case…why not renominate McCain? He ran in 2008 when it was a bad year for Republicans. Palin didn’t run in 2008, neither did Barbour, or Pence, or Ryan, or whoever. So, by extension of your Christine ran in the bad year so she gets it in the good year logic, the only potential GOP candidates for President in 2012 are Tancredo, Thompson, Guilliani, Romney, Huckabee, Gilmore (well, he kinda sort ran), Duncan Hunter and, of course, Alan Keyes. You want that field? Mallamut, With respect, it seems that you're focused on C. O'D., whereas I'm more interested in the intra-party dynamics. The point I was trying to make amidst the sarcasm is that the Rino/Rockefeller/establishment/Ruling Party (whatever you want to call it) element in the GOP is quick to use movement conservatives/tea-party types (whatever you want to call them), when it's convenient, and just as quick to throw them aside when they get inconvenient. The DE state party happens to be a particularly egregious example of a political establishment happy to use conservative activists to elect liberal Republicans, but refusing to support the candidate chosen by the party's voters when that candidate is herself an activist. Accomodation is a two way street. The activists in the base are always being told by the establishment types to settle, to support the greater good, embrace the moderate to liberal wing of the party. Why is it that the greater good always means supporting a liberal Republican? Especially since liberal Republicans like Castle have proven unwilling to support their conservative brethren. The iceberg looms. We need a course correction, and all electing Castle was going to do was give us yet another chance to rearrange the deck chairs so they're more to our liking. I'm past thinking that will make a difference.

283 You've just got to love the way I've unified this party.

284 Its good to know the candidates have to pass Drew and Ace's personality test or they'll take their balls and go home.  What a fucking crock. 

285 The liberal media will make sure she is well paid to stay front and center. They did that with Palin, too, but she wasn't really part of the problem, so when she embraced it, it was like "FYNQ" to the libs. COD, of course, will realize her job is to make conservatives look idiotic. She did that before on Maher's show. She will do it again. No offense, if she had been elected, she would have had a meal ticket, and her craziness wouldn't be more than that Guam guy or Robert Byrd. But we know the MSM is licking its chops.

286 ...And good riddance, Mike Castle.

You are your own reward.

287

"I always got a strong "flake" vibe, not to mention a strong "dumb as a bag of hammers" vibe to boot."

Hey Ace, look in the mirror lately? 

288 I do under stand the possibility of "dumb as a bag of hammers" but then all her constituents wanted of her was to vote No on Cap and Trade, Yes on repeal of Obamacare, etc., how hard could that be?  The fact is it is one does not need to be overly intellectual to do the right thing.  The really "smart " people need to be on the left where keeping your lies straight is a skill requiring great mental presence.

The framers ideas were profound not complicated.

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290 you must stay out of the public eye for at least one year.
 i think。