1 Christie wasn't the Mayor of Wasilla!

2 Can Christie's Wife Ride a Snowmobile?

3

Yes, but I bet he could eat a moose.  In a centrist sort of way.

4 Did Chris Christie Choose Life?

5 You're right on center with this, Drew.

As long as Christie doesn't bail before the end of his term and/or draw Andi Sullivan's ire, he might be well worth a look. He's walkin' the walk and talkin' the talk.

Or, as GW Bush (I think) once said, "He's talkin' the walk."

6 I stopped listening when I saw your first name!

7 Awesome.  I really feel centered today.

8 I live in NJ. Yeah. Of course I am in South Carolina at the moment, but i don't see to many Liberals here

9 Does he even have a Facebook Page!?!?

10 We need Christie to counter balance these no-loads.

11

whoops - link - http://tinyurl.com/2e7xfyr

 

12 Christie is a former prosecutor and has a law degree. He. like Palin has a tough hide.

13 9 Does he even have a Facebook Page!?!?

Posted by: Palinisto! at July 19, 2010 04:56 PM (4OnPC)

He would need at least two.

14 10 We need Christie to counter balance these no-loads.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 19, 2010 04:57 PM (RkRxq)

I like the fact is that he fights back without sounding like a dick.

 

15

We need to find a candidate named Jake:

Jake and the Fat Man 2012

16 Look at the BMI on that cracka. 

17 What I love about the second video.

"I could say it where "you all" wouldn't understand it. ( NOT you guys)

This guy is a closet Southern, God Bless Him!

18 I hope Bill Brady here in Illinois is taking notes.. we need some ass kicked here.. and not the Obummer's kind ass kicking.. Christie's brand of ass kicking!

19 Unlike Sarah, he has a voice that doesn't send dogs running from the room.  Don't get me wrong, I like her, but sheesh....

20 Yep, still willing to go through with the sex change if he wants to have a baby.

21

Only six months in office...that should be enough for 2 or 3 autobiographies by Obama's standard.

 

 

22 lol @ Jane

23

_{Sarah, he has a voice that doesn't send dogs running from the room.  Don't get me wrong, I like her, but sheesh....}

You need a special voice to be heard over the rotar wash when you are Aerial Hunting Wolves!

 

24 Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 19, 2010 05:01 PM (UOM4

Joysey accents can rub people the wrong way too. Fortunately, his isn't too bad.

Then again, I grew up in NYC so.....

25

"2008 rewinds"?

Were you expecting McCain again in 2012, or was that an oblique reference to Sarah Palin?

26 Chris Christie - if he kicks your ass, it stays kicked!

27

"He's talkin' the walk."

Heh...

So is this here blog starting to tell us who the official AOSHQ endorsed candidate for POTUS is?

28 Didn't work out so well?  I nearly became presidente of Argentina!

29 Though I appreciate your '08 retread sentiments and your Palin in AK vs Christie in NJ observations are quite apt, there is another reason to be a Sarah fanboy.

It pisses off the "ruling class" Rs who plan to co-opt newly elected R legislators this fall. Of course, since you supported TARP, and since TARP was a "ruling class" measure foisted upon otherwise "country class" Rs, you may regard this as a bug not a feature.

30 JUST KEEP HIM THE HELL AWAY FROM GUAM! HIS LEFT THIGH ALONE WOULD WOULD TIP US INTO THE DRINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

31 On Friday some asked why Christie is mentioned as '12 contender will so little time in office and Palin is still dismissed by some as not having enough experience.

You forgot that his previous public service experience, as U.S. States Atty for one of the largest districts in the country for seven years, vastly outweighs (heh) hers.  He managed over 100 lawyers and was very effective at rooting out corruption. 

Yeah, I've given up on Palin as a potential POTUS.  When I really looked at her record, I realized that I was putting too much stock into my personal affinity for her and not being realistic about what her qualifications really are. 

32
19 Jane D'oh at July 19, 2010 05:01

Michelle Bachman of Minnesota is the same way. It is much more enjoyable to read their opinions than to here them spoken. TV mitigates the problem some but neither should do radio.

33 Let's not talk about Christie for 2012.  He and Jindal are future contenders, but one lesson we should take from Sarah Palin is to make sure candidates are properly seasoned and not run before they're ready.  As good as Christie and Jindal are, I'd rather run them in 2016 or 2020 and have something like a Ryan-Brewer ticket in 2012. 

Besides, Louisiana and New Jersey could still benefit from having these men as governors for a while longer.  There are other conservatives able to shoulder the load.

34

I beg to differ on Christie's most awesome moment... that one with the reporter was good, but I liked when he told the teacher if she didn't like the pay, she could get another job.

Sigh... love when a smackdown is delivered to a union hack.

35 Michelle Bachman would make an awesome head of the RNC.  Or is it racist for me to even think such a thing?

I'll denounce myself, just to be sure.

36

Christie/Palin 12 vs Blago/Greene* 12

If he had Sarah Palin chained up in Princess Leia gear, that would make a great campaign ad.

 I keed, I keed, ewoks. 

* - "I get paid to be vice president, right?"

37 There are other conservatives able to shoulder the load. Posted by: Wolfwood at July 19, 2010 05:08 PM (F4g8J) You make some good points about Jindal and Christie, but who else is there???????

38 Of course, since you supported TARP, and since TARP was a "ruling class" measure foisted upon otherwise "country class" Rs, you may regard this as a bug not a feature.

I thought it was Ace who supported the first TARP?  I know it's hard to tell the cob-loggers apart.

39 Were you expecting McCain again in 2012, or was that an oblique reference to Sarah Palin?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 19, 2010 05:04 PM (oIp16)

And Romeny. And Huckabee.

(And Rudy and Fred if they were thinking about it)

We got our asses kicked. I'm not real sentimental for that cycle.

The lines are drawn on that class of candidates, sides have been picked. In this climate someone new (or a bunch of new folks) is the way to go.

I felt the same way after 96.

Yeah, you can point to Regan in '76 and '80 but I think we're all on board with the idea he's pretty much the exception, not the rule.

40 I would vote for that guy.  Hell, I would vote three or four times for that guy.

41

Saracudas eats Carp for breakfast...

oh, you said TARP...

 

42 I have to admit that there is no Trig-gate here.  The man is clearly pregnant.

43 Chris Christie/Megyn Kelly '12  (Yeah, I've got a girl crush on Megyn.)

44

 _{Hell, I would vote three or four times for that guy.}

Not me.  I vote (D).  All four times.

45 There are other conservatives able to shoulder the load.

Ironically, that could be ... bum-bah-bwahhhhh ..... Hillary!

Hillary  Clinton/Harold Ford 2012 -

-

46 Rubio vs Ryan vs Christie in an oily dance off. 

47 I'm pretty sure that whatever we did in 2008, we needn't do again. Ever.

48

He's making a real difference here in just attitude. You don't hear so many people complaining they'll be leaving the state, for starters.

And it's always kind of fun to tell a crowd how happy you are with Christie and for a minute nobody says anything. Until one guy nods and then a few more and finally just about everybody but the diehard Mom/Teachers Union hippie realizes that it's okay to agree with you. It sure pisses off the hippies, too!

49 It pisses off the "ruling class" Rs who plan to co-opt newly elected R legislators this fall. Of course, since you supported TARP, and since TARP was a "ruling class" measure foisted upon otherwise "country class" Rs, you may regard this as a bug not a feature. Any of you morons that haven't read this already , should .

50

We got our asses kicked. I'm not real sentimental for that cycle.

I'm absolutely on board with that sentiment.

Whatever flaw in the process allowed McCain to be "the last man standing" in 2008 needs to be fixed or I feel we will be seeing a lot more of that.

51

_{Rubio vs Ryan vs Christie in an oily dance off.} 

Bob Dole Approves!

52

Hasn't the current occupant of the White House proven that experience is not a qualification for getting elected? 

53 Sorry but I along with the majority of Americans don't agree with Christie on guns. It's a deal killer for me.

54 You know, I'm available in 2012. The power of orange cannot be denied. Just sayin'.

55 Sorry but I along with the majority of Americans don't agree with Christie on guns. It's a deal killer for me. Posted by: robtr at July 19, 2010 05:16 PM (fwSHf) With all due respect a narrow approach like that is what puts people like Obama in the White House

56 55 Sorry but I along with the majority of Americans don't agree with Christie on guns. It's a deal killer for me.

Posted by: robtr at July 19, 2010 05:16 PM (fwSHf)

Guns and illegals make Christie a deal killer for me too. Yes, I love to see his beat-down of the public sector employees and reporters, but he's just too flawed. He may be good for NJ, but not America.

57 <i>You make some good points about Jindal and Christie, but who else is there???????</i>

Well, it's early still.  I like Jan Brewer as a VP candidate.  The Border is going to be an issue in 2012 and she's got actual (not just theoretical) credibility on that issue.  She's not exciting, but she seems competent and like someone who could take the reins if anything ever did happen to the President.

As for the top spot, we need someone with credibility when it comes to finance, economics, and austerity.  I'm not sure who that should be.  Jindal's certainly not ready yet.  As smart as he is, he's still awfully young and could benefit from a second term as Governor.  If Christie were 2 1/2 years into his term I'd be all for him, but as it is I think it may just be too soon.  Cantor is a smart partisan, but I don't think he has the charisma to run for President.  Maybe Haley Barbour?

Pawlenty and the other governors aren't all that exciting, even if they're competent.  If it's going to be someone in Congress, it should be someone with executive experience.  Let's just wait a year or so and see how things shake out. 

58 Wouldn't Christie have to take time off his duties as Gov. to run in 2012? That could hurt him.

59 Kodos / Kang 2012

60 With all due respect a narrow approach like that is what puts people like Obama in the White House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 19, 2010 05:17 PM (5jbD3)

I disagree with you. Would you like him as much if he was fine with regulations on the firts amendment too?

61 I hear today that the Pennsylvania budget is full of holes. There is $350 million completely missing, while another $800 million Rendell was hoping would come from the feds won't be there either.

There is the expectation that PA taxes could double after the election.

At least, New Jersey is ahead of the game thanks to Christie

62 Christie has said directly he wouldn't be ready for 2012.  I am actually starting to think DeMint a little, although I just think Pence has "that look" and God knows the American public wants a photogenic president.

As for Palin, love her but the jig is up, I sure wish she was running the RNC, she can raise boat loads of cash.

63 With all due respect a narrow approach like that is what puts people like Obama in the White House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 19, 2010 05:17 PM (5jbD3)

I'm sure a crappy Republican nominee had nothing to do with that. It's a bit too early to be selling party discipline as pragmatism yet.

64 I like Paul Ryan, but he voted for the damn auto bailout so the UAW could keep buying viagra on my dime! Mitch Daniels, Bush budget director. OH I long for the days of 400 billion dollar deficits! I guess it is better than 1.4 trillion. He can take his truce and shove it up his ass.

65 I like mandates, my healthcare plan was sound but you can't have a national version of it. And my hair, sweet Jeebus, have you seen my hair? You know you can't resist me. When you abandoned me in the 2008 primaries you were just playing hard to get, right? I'm waiting for my coronation.

66 Posted by: robtr at July 19, 2010 05:19 PM (fwSHf)

After Heller and McDonald, guns aren't going to be much of an issue nationally.

Actually, they weren't before hand.

Did you notice that with a left wing President and super majorities in both houses of Congress, the Democrats didn't touch gun control?

Yet you think a conservative Republican with a Republican Congress is going to?

Dude, stop seeing monsters under the bed.

67

 I hear today that the Pennsylvania budget is full of holes. There is $350 million completely missing, while another $800 million Rendell was hoping would come from the feds won't be there either.

Pennsylvania budget full of holes?  Don't blame me!

68

please. no. more. senators.

please.

69 33 Let's not talk about Christie for 2012.  He and Jindal are future contenders, but one lesson we should take from Sarah Palin is to make sure candidates are properly seasoned and not run before they're ready.

Agreed.

70 With all due respect a narrow approach like that is what puts people like Obama in the White House Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 19, 2010 05:17 PM (5jbD3) I disagree with you. Would you like him as much if he was fine with regulations on the firts amendment too? Posted by: robtr at July 19, 2010 05:19 PM (fwSHf) I am saying that you have to judge a candidate on his entire platform and on who he is running against. If the devil ran against Obama, I'd give strong consideration to getting a tan.

71 What put Obama in the White House is his skin color.

72 Please.  No more Harvard grads.  Please.

73 I just talked to Heather Radish.  She's moving, her Internet is off for a week, and her phone won't load AoS.  So she will be back in a week, and if you guys want to, go look at her Flikr feed... although I don't know the address.

74 What put Obama in the White House is his skin color.

Then, I'm a shoo-in!

75

Anecdotally, a lot of the objections I heard about Giuliani (I was a supporter) washis weakness on guns.  My argument was that the 2nd Amendment dispute was settled (while suspecting their real opposition was due to the ethnic thing). 

76 Did you notice that with a left wing President and super majorities in both houses of Congress, the Democrats didn't touch gun control?

Yet you think a conservative Republican with a Republican Congress is going to?

Dude, stop seeing monsters under the bed.

Posted by: DrewM. at July 19, 2010 05:21 PM (X/Lqh)

No, I don't. I also didn't think a republican congress and president would pass a medicare drug bill either. You should probably crawl out from under the bed and realize the his public statements on guns and immigration on going to be used to hammer him in a primary.

77 My friendsh, it was all a misunderstanding in 2008. I can be your man in 2012. I will personally man the entire southern border with robot alligators and giant space monsters, all equipped with nerve gas, laser beams and anti-Mexican landmines if you will nominate me to run in 2012. You can trust John Fucking McCain to take the danged fence seriously.

78 What does Christie say about running for President:

I have absolutely no interest in running for president of the United States. None. Zero interest. Zero. None. Close the door. No chance. No way. Under no circumstances. I don’t know any other way I could put it. No hope, don’t try to talk me into it, nothing. Forget it. I’m staying here.”

I think that's about as clear as it gets. 

79 My argument was that the 2nd Amendment dispute was settled (while suspecting their real opposition was due to the ethnic thing). 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 19, 2010 05:26 PM (3iMgs)

What ethnic thing? If Obama can get elected I'd say it's pretty certain that nobody gives a rip if someone has an Italian last name anymore.

80 One thing we should all probably realize is that nobody we could pick will be perfect in every way. Each contender we've brought up here has been shown to have some imperfection. Unfortunately, there is no Ronald Reagan this time around. I think we are going to be disappointed with 2012.

81 33 Let's not talk about Christie for 2012.  He and Jindal are future contenders, but one lesson we should take from Sarah Palin is to make sure candidates are properly seasoned
Posted by: Wolfwood


I'm thinking a little salt and a lotta butter would be seasoning enough with Sarah...

82 Hey, guys.  I'm clean, articulate, and the right color. 

83

You make some good points about Jindal and Christie, but who else is there???????

 

My friends...

84 88 Hey, guys.  I'm clean, articulate, and the right color. 

Posted by: Michael Steele at July 19, 2010 05:33 PM (UOM4

And you would look good on fire too.

85 As awesome as Christie as President would be, there's a lot more to winning the Presidency than, "Hey! I'm running!" You need a national network/organization up and running long beforehand, especially if you are an authentic conservative going up against the GOP Establishment's chosen candidates for the nomination.

Yeah, you know where I'm going with this.

86 If the Repub. candidate for 2012 is someone we haven't heard of yet, he's gonna get smoked. Name recognition will be huge with the squishy middle, who we'll need to show up and vote Repub. If we present some "exciting" blank slate, the media will paint him/her as an insane choice just as readily as they did with Palin.
I've still yet to see anyone in contention within the GOP who has half the qualifications that Romney has.

87

What put Obama in the White House is his skin color.

Then, I'm a shoo-in!

Posted by: Charlie Crist at July 19, 2010 05:24 PM

 

FIRST ORANGE PRESIDENT

88 Romney is toast. Romneycare. The attack ads write themselves. On the other hand if you want to be certain none of Obamacare is defunded or rolled back, support Mittens. By all means. Also a good plan if you want to see Barry re-elected.

89 Every time he comes up with one of these speeches all on here go all ape shit and start talking about 2012.  Folks, lets keep in mind that giving speeches to inflame the base is what most politicians are good at. They are, in fact, professional speech givers.

Lets give him a chance to develop a record first. Sure he talks up fighting the teacher's unions in NJ. How good has he been at actually taking the fight too them though? I'll give him credit for actually trying as well and being defeated in an all Dem legislature.

But lets see something besides speeches before we go all head over heals for 2012.

And what are his positions and record on the other issues as well? Is he like Rudy as a NE gungrabber? Does he believe in low taxes and small government? Does he believe in a Constitution as written?

90 Everytime we have one of these threads somebody talks about how we need the perfect candidate to beat Odumbass.  I don't buy that and I think at least 5% of his vote is gone and gone for good.  And certainly his policies aren't going to start an avalanche of economic activity, unless you count bankruptcy, unemployment and foreclosures as economic activity.

91 Romney is exactly the kind of Republican we don't want as President.

92 90 I think Romney will convince a lot of doubters once the campaign season begins.

He must disavow MassCare.  Inasmuch as he seems unwilling to do this, the main reason to elect a Republican over a Democrat is diluted heavily.  Had he not been the author of MassCare, he would be the presumptive nominee now.

Much more of a deal-killer than Pawlenty's hard-on for global warming.

93 polynikes

So we can throw away people who aren't 100% on an issue that isn't going to come up because it might at some point?

That's brilliant!

I can't believe with thinking like that we ever lose.

As for Romney...what's he going to convince us of? That ObamCare isn't RomneyCare writ large? It's not a matter of doubt, it's a matter of facts (they are after all, stubborn things).

Sorry, I want to spend the 2012 campaign fighting to repeal that crap, not watching a candidate run away from his record on this very issue.

BTW- I don't think Christie is going to run in '12. I just like the idea of a someone like him (combative, effective, conservative) being the standard against which others are measured.

94

I for one like Christie a lot but do consider him just as green as Palin was.  I'd rather see him stick with the Governor's job and build up a real record of accomplishment before running.  Not that he's not off to a great start, but both for his state's sake and for any eventual career in national office it would be better to actually realize and consolidate his ambitions.  (That's also what I would've liked for Palin, but the left set her up too perfectly with the nuisance ethics complaints.  Christie, fairly or not, has a chance she didn't.)  So I won't be boosting Christie in 2012, though I'd definitely vote for him if he somehow pulled it off.

The Romney aide's "not a serious human being" comment is a big effing deal to me and his disavowal didn't cut it for me.  Unless totally fabricated (which he doesn't quite claim), the comment reveals something ugly about Romney's team and the attitudes he inspires.  It patronizes Palin in about the worst possible way short of obscenity, it accepts the false premise of her competence offered by the left, and it patronizes all the people who support her because she really gets their concerns.

I do like Mitch Daniels on fiscal issues.  If he can put the truce talk behind him, maybe by bringing on a social con or tea partier to balance him out I could back him.

Daniels/Palin, maybe?  But it's still early.  Maybe Jindal will catch fire, or someone else not yet on the radar.

95 Darth Cheney 2012!

96 Moose for President.

97 Posted by: George Orwell

Just because someone coined the phrase "Romneycare" doesn't mean the best qualified man to lead the country is disqualified.
Read up on how MA  health care became law, all 15 or 20 years of the process, and you'll see that it's hardly a "Romney" creation. He vetoed more than a dozen of the onerous components that make up the system, and watched all of his vetoes fall to overrides. I think a lot of conservatives would benefit from listening to him explain the process. When there's a 75-85% one Party rule in the Legislature, evil things like health care reform can't be stopped. Which is why someone who understands, and respects, the Constitution is so necessary. Not to mention his undeniable expertise in real world economics.

98

Jindal ain't happenin....

Just sayin.

99

I don't think Christie will run either.

I am not sure why Drew thinks that Christie wouldn't enact gun control. He said he believes in it and he showed that he does what he believes in. That's been his main talking point since he was elected governor. He believes what he believes and he acts on it.

100 Man, that Codevilla piece at #51 is powerful.

101 From Rasmussen:

Republican candidates now hold a nine-point lead over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot for the week ending Sunday, July 18, the widest gap between the two parties in several weeks.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 45% of Likely Voters would vote for their district's Republican congressional candidate, while 36% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent. Support for Republicans inched up a point from last week, while support for the Democrat fell two points.

While solid majorities of Democrats and Republicans support the candidates of their respective party, voters not affiliated with either party prefer the Republican candidate by a 47% to 21% margin.

102 Lincolntf, all of that is well and good, but priority #1 is to repeal Obamacare and any GOP nominee has to make that front-and-center and that means having Romney say that he was "wr-wr-wr-wr-..." Fonzie-style.

Yes, there are plenty of (reasonable) excuses that he can make based on the way things were going, but then he has to say, "I did the best I could and prevented an unmitigated disaster with a moderate disaster, but I couldn't manage to stop the inevitable problems."

In the same way that the Democrats could not nominate an Iraq war supporter in 2008, the Republicans cannot nominate a health control advocate in 2012. If Romney tries to make the case that he can implement Obamacare better than Obama, he is not going to get the GOP to turn out for him.

103 There is nothing that Romney could do at this point to make me support him. He is the proverbial used car salesman caught putting sawdust in the transmission.

None of the "top 4" listed by the MFM will or should be the candidate in 2012. I think it will be someone like Pence. A true dark horse candidate who can run on an anti-platform.  That's not that I support Pence either because I haven't done any research on him. Just that it will be someone like him and it will be someone who has good conservative credentials (or at least who can be made to appear that way).

And I truly don't give a rat fk what the MFM thinks of the candidates. In fact, who ever they start pushing will make me run the other way from them.

104

whats the deal with this Newark Mayor that joined Christie on the 2.5% cap?

is he...gasp...a Democrat with a conscience?

or is he actually a Republican plant in one of the biggest ghettos in the country?

 

Or is Christie grooming him privately to replace Lautenberg as a "Democratic" appointment when Lauty kicks over from cancer, only for that guy to then "announce" hes switching parties?

 

105 I am not sure why Drew thinks that Christie wouldn't enact gun control.

Because it's so unpopular that the most Democratic government in two generations didn't dare touch it.

If Obama/Pelosi/Reid didn't go for it, I can't fathom a Christie/Boehner/McConnell team doing it.

As I said, I don't think Christie will run in '12 but come on, deal in the real world here.

106 Vic I was just reading this at another site and popped back over here and saw your post:

From Talkradionews....

Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) told reporters Monday that he intends to join forces with Rep. Michele BachmannÂ’s (R-Minn.) newly created Tea Party Caucus.

The Republican Conference Chairman only had two words to say when asked if he would join, “You Betchya!”

Pence said being a part of a caucus allows for that he hopes the Tea Party Caucus will shed light on what he has seen the American people want in Indiana and across the country.

Pence went on to blast the financial regulatory reform bill that is currently awaiting President Barack ObamaÂ’s signature. 

“This bill is nothing more than a permanent Wall Street bailout,” he said.

He continued to attack the Obama administrationÂ’s agenda by blasting the proposed extension for unemployment benefits that will be voted on by the Senate Tuesday, saying he expects legislation to return to the House.

“House Republicans believe that we can’t tax, spend or regulate ourselves back to prosperity,” Pence said.

107 What does Christie say about running for President:

I have absolutely no interest in running for president of the United States. None. Zero interest. Zero. None. Close the door. No chance. No way. Under no circumstances. I don’t know any other way I could put it. No hope, don’t try to talk me into it, nothing. Forget it. I’m staying here.”

I think that's about as clear as it gets. 
Posted by: Editor at July 19, 2010 05:29 PM

I think that's part of the reason I'd like to see him run!

We've seen what happens when someone who has wanted the job since he was a wee lad in primary school madrasa gets in. Besides, Christie has almost two years to prove his ability before the '12 election.

Not saying I'm for Christie, because I'm not. Not yet, anyway.

But I'm pretty convinced that Mutt Romney, Shuckabee, Jindal, Palin and the darlings of the real political enthusiasts leave me cold. Any one of them (except Huckabee) would be preferable to Osama Obama, but it would be nice to get someone in the White House who can do the damn job.

Hasn't happened for way too many years. Since 1988, in fact.

108 Darth Cheney's Mighty Warcock 2012!

FIFY

(Note: Darth Cheney and Cheney's Mighty Warcock are close, but not the same thing.)

109 Amish, what should Romney have done when his vetoes were overridden? What extra-Constitutional measures should he have taken when his Constitutional ones ran out?
The Constitution isn't an "excuse".

110

Whatever flaw in the process allowed McCain to be "the last man standing" in 2008 needs to be fixed or I feel we will be seeing a lot more of that.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 19, 2010 05:15 PM (oIp16)

They haven't been and the GOP has an amazing ability to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. Romney will likely win 'because its his turn' and we may well see a repeat of what happened with McCain and Sarah won't be there to even make it close.

111

So we can throw away people who aren't 100% on an issue that isn't going to come up because it might at some point?

That's brilliant!

It's more brilliant than compromising on everything and winding up with another McCain. Republicans like that don't get elected. Ever.

112

Posted by: davidt at July 19, 2010 05:43 PM (HtIec)

Not sure if you saw my last post about who was the reason the community organizer gave the keynote speech in 2004

It was Tom Daschle

113 Hahahaha, first Romney has to convince me that the lost tribe of Israel ended up in W. NY State. And then there's that whole golden plates thing. Hahahahaha. Convince me, Polynikes

114

First, it's a fair point, 6 months isn't enough experience. On the other hand...'12 is a year and a half away.

'12 is a year and a half away, but he'll have to "quit" his job as Governor to start campaigning full-time for the primary in less than a year (probably sooner, as he has no ground-game anywhere yet), giving him a year and a half of experience or less.  If Palin is too inexperienced, you can sure as hell forget about Christie.

Second, Alaska is small (by population and budget) conservative state. New Jersey is much larger and much more liberal.

Well that's certainly a new one.  Keep raising that bar.

115 119 Amish, what should Romney have done when his vetoes were overridden? What extra-Constitutional measures should he have taken when his Constitutional ones ran out?
The Constitution isn't an "excuse".

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 19, 2010 05:55 PM (4Lm8Z) 

He means that the issue will be an albatross around Romney's neck, and face it, most voters will fall asleep the second he tries to explain it.

116 Hahahaha, first Romney has to convince me that the lost tribe of Israel ended up in W. NY State. And then there's that whole golden plates thing. Hahahahaha. Convince me, Polynikes Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at July 19, 2010 05:59 PM (w9bVp) Does that mean we can open a Casino?

117 OT: Stolen from Newsbusters.

Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Monday lobbied that if one were to "set aside" the Fort Hood terror attack and the botched Christmas bombing, there haven't been successful attacks on America in the last few years.

I think his brain has been set aside.

118 Just not another lawyer.

I am an avowed anti-lawyer.  (BTW, I have jury duty in a few weeks, mwahahahahaha.) I could write a treatise on why it is disastrous to have so many lawyers in the high echelons of government, how law school teaches you lessons that are fundamentally anti-American, that the whole profession is parasitic and unproductive, that the more lawyers we have and the more attractive the profession is, the worse we are as a nation.

That being said, it isn't a killer for me.  What I don't want is like Obama -- a lawyer's administration -- where everybody in every position is a lawyer.  Like Michelle's hospital job, they're unqualified for it, but law school is apparently the O negative of politics.

The legal profession is corruption by definition.  It is rent-seeking, it looks for government redress of all problems.  If you want to find a picnic, follow the ants.  If you want to find corruption, follow the lawyers.  If a person who is a lawyer is willing to recognize that it's a major problem that our young people think that learning math is for chumps, because you can just party for 4 years, take the LSAT and find yourself making contacts in a fancy law school, then I'm cool with it.

119 We've got to change the way GOP primaries are run, especially the early ones. The MSM and RINO's got us McCain as the nominee. That's after 20 years of not really conservative GOP nominees. We have to wrestle some control so another Reagan can emerge. I also disagree that we will need name recognition this next time.... 2012 will be about authenticity, truthfulness, character and faith in righting the wrongs of Big Federal Government out of control and unaccountable to the populace. my .02

120 George Orwell at July 19, 2010 05:40 PM (AZGON) I think you are wrong and I think you wouldn't consider Romney if there were no such thing as the 'romneycare'. Not true. Romneycare is, as Biden says, a big fucking deal. At any rate, given the money Romney spent and the campaigning he did in 2008, his showing was piss poor. This guy is not a golden boy.

121

It was Tom Daschle

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 19, 2010 05:57 PM (ACkhT)

Yeah, saw that. Thanks.

122 Drew, there can't be a six-month anniversary.

123 Because it's so unpopular that the most Democratic government in two generations didn't dare touch it.

If Obama/Pelosi/Reid didn't go for it, I can't fathom a Christie/Boehner/McConnell team doing it.

As I said, I don't think Christie will run in '12 but come on, deal in the real world here.

Posted by: DrewM. at July 19, 2010 05:53 PM (X/Lqh)

Well that pretty much ignores what he is doing in New Jersey. The things he's doing there aren't that popular. That's what I like about him, he does what he believes in. He isn't Obama/Reid/Pelosi. If you think he is then fine.

In case you havn't been in the real world for the past couple of generations, the democrats passed  sweeping gun control measures with the assault rifle ban. It wasn't popular either but they did it.

 

124 Posted by: KG

Maybe.
But I'm hoping that some of the energy that everyone senses on the Repub. side translates to people taking the time to learn the truth about the candidates. It's easy enough to find official statements, read actual bills, read contemporaneous news accounts, etc. that here's really no excuse for not knowing what the differences between candidates are.

125 Amish, what should Romney have done when his vetoes were overridden? What extra-Constitutional measures should he have taken when his Constitutional ones ran out?

Ideally, he could have, while the thing was being bandied about, emphasized that it wasn't going to work.  He could have predicted the problems.  That being said, when Obamacare was going, he could have simply said, "We tried it in Mass and it didn't work."

Reagan admitted his mistake in the CA abortion law.  Romney must do the same. 

126 He would have won the debates with Obama like he did in most of the Republican primaries even though they ganged up on him. He would not have allowed Obama's skeleton's not to become issues.  He would have had major conservative endorsements campaign for him that only gave lip service for McCain.  It would have been a very close election.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2010 06:01 PM (m2CN7)

He performed poorly in a lot of the debates icluding statements about wanting Romneycare to serve as a model for the nation, and as I recall he was running in 2008. What points did he raise about Obama's skeleton's then?

127 Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 19, 2010 06:00 PM

Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Monday lobbied that if one were to "set aside" the Fort Hood terror attack and the botched Christmas bombing, there haven't been successful attacks on America in the last few years.

I think his brain has been set aside.

Right off the top of my head, I can recall the kid in Dallas trying to blow up a building.  I'm sure there are several more.  Damn, what these folks won't do to apologize for Muslim Terrorism.

128

Hi.

129 Yea, I saw those golden plates with my spiritual eye. That may or may not have been before Mittens saw them.

130 Well that pretty much ignores what he is doing in New Jersey. The things he's doing there aren't that popular.
Posted by: robtr at July 19, 2010 06:04 PM (fwSHf)

What he's doing in NJ isn't popular with elected Democrats but it's popular with voters. It's why he's able to role over the politicians.

Gun control isn't popular with voters, that's why Democrats won't touch it.

Has Christie proposed any gun control legislation? I haven't been able to find any.

131 re: 143

It's why he's able to role roll over the politicians.

132 I care not for Testaments Old or New. That it may or may not have occurred over 2000 yrs ago. But if it happened in the past 200 years I need more than an amen from the LSD. Or you, Polynikes. That's all.

133 Gun control isn't popular with voters, that's why Democrats won't touch it.

Well, that theory only goes so far, see ObamaCare. A necessary corollary is that they will go against the voters when the issue promises to either create new Dem voters or expand the dependent class.

134 polynikes

Seriously...how does Romney get by RomneyCare and lead the repeal charge with any credibility?

135

Apparently you and George Orwell were watching a different primary race than I did.

Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2010 06:08 PM (m2CN7)

Guess so. I recall the debate where Romney raised his hand when asked if Global Warming was a serious threat. IIRC so did Huckabee. Iowa debate I believe. Me and George Orwell remember it well.

I also remember the California debate where Romney sat like a bump on a log with McCain running off at the mouth lying about just about everything. 'Well excuse me but perhaps we might consider that the esteemed Senator McCains words, might perhaps be somewhat exaggerated?' Yeah great debater!

136 Oh no, now I'm starting to remember all the proxy battles over Health Care in the MA Legislature (and on the Op-Ed pages) during the Weld/Cellucci/Swift Gubernatorial Death March of the Nineties. That's what led to the whole mess being plopped in Mitt's lap. Anyway, Mitt's definitely not blameless. He played way too nice with a Legislature that was watching leaders hauled off to jail on a semi-annual basis. He never tried to leverage that.
Could he have distanced himself from that whole Weld, etc. crew and completely disavowed Health Care? Yes. But he didn't do it early, so the die was cast the moment he took Office.
Anyway, if people are going to be single-issue voters, they should do their best to understand that single issue. Romney is still the class of the field as far as I'm concerned.

137 Apparently you and George Orwell were watching a different primary race than I did. That's why Romney lost the nomination. Did that happen in your universe?

138 133 Drew, there can't be a six-month anniversary.

*cold glare*

139 Guess so. I recall the debate where Romney raised his hand when asked if Global Warming was a serious threat. IIRC so did Huckabee. Iowa debate I believe. Me and George Orwell remember it well. Yes indeed... I forgot to activate the Memory Hole on that one. No one was supposed to remember that. Oh well. I suppose you and I are now unpersons, sharrukin. ----- Anyway, if people are going to be single-issue voters, they should do their best to understand that single issue. Romney is still the class of the field as far as I'm concerned. If Mittens could just man up and say "Learn from our mistakes, Masscare was a disaster and Obamacare will be one too" he could have a chance. Haven't seen him thoroughly disavow mandated medical insurance yet.

140 When the Magical Candidate Who Has No Flaws finally shows up, this thread will seem so dated...

141 Based on your well known rhetoric, if that's not a killer for you, nothing is.  Kind of takes your credibilty away with me.  And not because you disagree with me.

Well, ironically, I may get back some of that credibility by saying that I don't care what you think about my credibility.  Really, I don't.  I'm not working for anybody here, least of all myself.

Keep in mind that my major objection to lawyers is the notion that they are some sort of superintellectuals who were made to rule over us all, even though they are almost uniformly too stupid to do calculus. That's a major reason you go to law school, to avoid math.  Keep in mind also that Mitt is an English major.

English.  His native tongue.

So, I'm not impressed with his academic resume either.

On the other hand, I'm a conservative, I don't have to be.  We don't need to elect ubermensches to rule over us.  We elect people to represent us.

142 152 Mitt would destroy Obama. I know you guys hate him but I think he is about the best we can do. You can't put up some newt-mccain-looking fart against sir golfsalot. Try to remember how stupid and shallow most voters are. Other than romneycare, being a yankee, and a couple of bad endorsements, what is the problem? He's attractive (very), articulate, experienced, clean, has no dialectical issues, and is at least as tall as mr. smartass.

143

Thankyou lincolntf. That's right. The purity testers will be left with zombiereagan who can't win because he's DEAD.

Ok, who is the magical candidate who is still ALIVE?

144 I'm not worried about his undergrad course load, I'll just keep an eye on the tens of thousands of jobs, millions of products, and billions of dollars he managed to keep/put into circulation in the real world economy.
Maybe if he'd just written a paper about doing it, instead of actually doing it, he'd be an "expert".

145 Me thinks 2011 will be a very interesting political year morons.

I do love me that big hunk of man.  They should name a candy bar after him then I could eat him up everyday!

Chris Christie is DELICIOUS.

146 154 *cold glare*

Baby, don't be like that!

147 What is the problem with Romney?

Romneycare
Assault Weapons Ban
Abortion
Gay Marriage
Don't ask don't tell
Global Warming Scam
Illegal immigration
Bush Tax Cut's

He has been on both sides of all these issues. Does anyone really think the DNC won't dub him "The Prince of Nuance" as John Kerry was?

148 I actually went to the Ames straw poll in 2008.  The Mitt brigade was huge.  They had t-shirts, a huge stage and it was a raucous party.  They were the nicest group, well organized and well funded.

And they flopped.  I really couldn't believe it.  Part of it is that the IAGOP has a very large single-issue evangelical base that turned out for Huckabee.  When I went into the caucus room, the number that voted for Huck was staggering.  I think his people went directly to the churches and religious organizations, rather than a general campaign.  This crowd also voted for a sore loser in the gov. race this year, who got beaten quite badly, so I don't think Huck, now that he's a known quantity, will be quite so attractive.  Huck also got the FairTax endorsement and those people were big at the time.

Part of it was the high expectations.  People expected Romney to win, but all of the reasons to vote for him were pretty shallow. 

149 From the New Hampshire debates, 2008:

MODERATOR: “You seem to have backed away from mandates on a national basis.”

ROMNEY: “No, no, I like mandates. The mandates work.”

Supports an unconstitutional plan. Plenty of video out there showing Mittens basically supporting the same things that make up Obamacare that would look just shittastic in Obama campaign ads. Mittens is clearly either a statist or a statist enabler and the choice of the Republican ruling class establishment.

No f'ing thank you.

150 - My God! He's full of Balls!

A Gov Christie thread without this line is an empty thread

151

Huck sucks.

How a country can be bigoted against a run of the mill mormon causing the election of a muslim sympathizing black liberation theology pretending foreigner is beyond me.

152  There are any number of reasons that it has not been a success that can be explained. He will acknowledge the failures and point out the positives.

Seem kind of presumptuous to state categorically that he will do such a thing. I don't really recall that he has done anything of the sort to date, what tells us that he will in the future?

153 I am totally against caucuses. They are the primary reason that Obama beet Hillary. That and the damn super delegates.

The Dems have their stupid primary rules and the Repubs have their stupid primary rules but they both have one thing in common.

They are both designed to assure that the Party elite still get to control the outcome. The only real fight is between the elites and the public has little say.

The smoke filled rooms of the old days are gone but the damn crookedness isn't.
 

154 I'm not worried about his undergrad course load, I'll just keep an eye on the tens of thousands of jobs, millions of products, and billions of dollars he managed to keep/put into circulation in the real world economy.
Maybe if he'd just written a paper about doing it, instead of actually doing it, he'd be an "expert".

It's just the notion of being able to solve problems.  If you haven't done so in the real world, at least you should have to face them in school.  Obama has never solved a problem in his life.  It's quite possible he could not solve a sudoku puzzle.

Think about it: Obama has never been faced with a problem and come up with a solution.  Never.

Mitt has, and that's to his credit.  It's more to his credit that he's done it in the real world, where the stakes are higher (albeit the solutions are generally easier).

First the MA healthplan and Obamacare are about as similar as the War in Afghanistan and Vietnam. 

(a) In this soundbyte world, it doesn't matter.  (b) MassCare is failing.  Badly.  Independent of Obamacare.  (c) The GOP wants repeal and we aren't going to nominate a candidate who doesn't carry the banner into 2012.  We're beyond nuance.

Second, the majority of voters believe we needed healthcare reform.

No. No. A thousand times, no.  Repeal first.  The ruling class cannot be trusted.  Get rid of it.

I've got a real simple test: Whatever you do to doctors, you have to do to lawyers also.  If you can get it passed, then I'll support it.

155 Now Mitt's a "statist"? Just last monthe he was a "Socialist". Is that a step up or a step down?
Meanwhile, Paul "never spent a day in the dreaded private sector" Ryan is supposed to be a beacon of new Conservatism. The next 18 months are going to be interesting, to say the least.

156 MODERATOR: “You seem to have backed away from mandates on a national basis.” ROMNEY: “No, no, I like mandates. The mandates work.” Supports an unconstitutional plan. Plenty of video out there showing Mittens basically supporting the same things that make up Obamacare Hardly "free market reform" of healthcare. Not by a lightyear. Look, no one here hates Romney. However, consider the millstones he wears around his neck. Look at #164 for a short list. He's an establishment Republican, unwilling to challenge even the simplest liberal bugbears, like socialized medicine and discredited global warming hysteria. Having said that, I would take Romney in a heartbeat over Fuckabee.

157 First the MA healthplan and Obamacare are about as similar as the War in Afghanistan and Vietnam.
Posted by: polynikes at July 19, 2010 06:28 PM (m2CN7)

You know what most people know about those wars? Neither of them went well for the US. That's the depth of interest most will have and it's enough to sink Romney.

More to the point, they are very similar. RomneyCare didn't go as far because as a state plan it was limited in the damage it could do but it's far more related to ObamaCare than anything Republicans should be talking about.

 I believe that his attempt to make a free market reform will not be held against him. 

Sure it will because it's failing.

There are any number of reasons that it has not been a success that can be explained.  He will acknowledge the failures and point out the positives. He will continue to maintain that States have a right to attempt these things where the same attempts are wrong for the Federal government.   

And there in is the issue. Mitt "I Like Mandates" Romney will spend the whole time explaining away what he did 10 years before and trying to draw wonkish distinctions in defense of a failing plan instead of leading the fight against the hell we are faced with.

He's simply the worst imaginable candidate if you want repeal of ObamaCare.

158 170 I am totally against caucuses.

The Iowa caucuses are basically primaries.  You go into a room.  You write down the name of your candidate and they announce the totals in the room.

I don't know how Dem primaries work, but I've heard they have the old system where you walk to a corner of the room.

The Iowa caucus system is interesting in that you do have to come face-to-face with your neighbors and you get to see who the local Mitt/McCain/Huck/etc. apparatchik is.  It takes a lot of guts for those people (there are thousands of them, one for each "precinct") to stand up and give their schpeil).

Iowa really doesn't have an effect on who ultimately wins.  It basically picks the top 3-4 candidates and the rest wither afterwards.

159 Chris Christie is DOA. He is not going to win. He is a gun grabber.

160
Has Christie proposed any gun control legislation? I haven't been able to find any.

Posted by: DrewM. at July 19, 2010 06:13 PM (X/Lqh)

No that's my point. New Jersey already has draconion gun regulation. He was asked if he would try to repeal any of it and he said no that he agreed with the regulations in New Jersey.

161 Having said that, I would take Romney in a heartbeat over Fuckabee.

True dat.  Of course, you and I know that Huck will come out of the gate savaging MassCare (not because he wouldn't implement something similar, because he's a slimy opportunist) and, of course, Romney will defend it reflexively.

162

How a country can be bigoted against a run of the mill mormon causing the election of a muslim sympathizing black liberation theology pretending foreigner is beyond me.

Posted by: dagny at July 19, 2010 06:36 PM (hw2bP)

Romney isn't a run of the mill Mormon. At least I hope not. Mormons tend to be conservative and Romney tends not to be. Romney is better than McCain or Huckabee, but that isn't saying much.

163

How a country can be bigoted against a run of the mill mormon

If Mitt Romney were a run-of-the-mill Mormon--staunchly pro-life, gun owner--I'd have no problem voting for him.  Unfortunately, he's a Mormon tainted by living on the East coast, and it shows in his policy preferences. 

If Mike Lee (a real run-of-the-mill Mormon) wants to run in 2016 or 2020, it will be a different story entirely.  I'm not saying I'd necessarily vote for him, but he wouldn't have Romney's problems.

164 Christie has support and vote for gun control in his state. In gun boards he is hated just like Mitt.

165

He's simply the worst imaginable candidate if you want repeal of ObamaCare.

Posted by: DrewM. at July 19, 2010 06:44 PM (X/Lqh)

By the way Drew, if you are looking to repeal Obamacare Chris Christie just isn't sure how he feels about it yet. He said the below while requesting the federal funds provided by Obamacare for high risk pools in his state.

 

 

But Christie said he is "nowhere near" making a decision on whether to join suit against the health care law and is awaiting the results of a "complete briefing" by his cabinet.

"We are looking at both the short-term and long-term ramifications of the legislation for the people of the state of New Jersey, and also the legal possibilities of success of any lawsuit," Christie said.

Vitale said Christie made the right choice to run the high risk pool in-state, calling it a "big step."

166 Posted by: robtr at July 19, 2010 06:50 PM (fwSHf)

We all have our bright lines I guess.

167

We have to win some of the east coast to win, the west is lost. Sorry guys, I don't like it either but THERE IS NO ONE OUT THERE who will make the purity posse happy and not scare the coastal voters to death. If there is, name him/her/it.

 

168 Me, I'm for some unknown, unproven guy who just sounds sorta presidential. Anyone but Palin or Bachmann. They're just here to do all the work.

169

We have to win some of the east coast to win, the west is lost. Sorry guys, I don't like it either but THERE IS NO ONE OUT THERE who will make the purity posse happy and not scare the coastal voters to death. If there is, name him/her/it.

Posted by: dagny at July 19, 2010 07:07 PM (nCeq3)

There is simply NO POINT is electing someone that the DC insiders are comfortable with. Obama is who they wanted and choosing someone else who they are fine with isn't going to change anything.

Romney, McCain, Huckabee aren't going to do a thing to change the direction the country is headed in. There is some chance that Palin will. Not a great chance, but at least she will try. Romney has proven that in a liberal environment he adopts liberal sensibilities.

170 If Christie can keep it up, and actually get NJ on a solid financial footing over time, maybe we can take heart that he will be the "no-brainer" shoo-in candidate in '16, should the unthinkable occur (shudders).

171 Could you imagine the cookouts that President Christie will have in 2017?  The ol' 96er for all!  And lots of beer.

172 Hell, I would vote three or four times for that guy.

Only registered Democrats can do that.

173 Regarding Iowa, and their protected status as first (which is bat-shzt crazy in post-2000 America):

Look,  this lefty, "Delusion of Energy Independence" writer points out that the "Big Corn" is what wins the Iowa caucuses. Even a blind acorn chokes a squirrel now and then.

So any Republican who wants to win by following the Conventional Wisdom has to go to the shrine of the Iowa Caucuses prepared to suck up to Big Corn.  And I mean suck up big-time.  like ol' Bowin' Barry on a trip to the Middle East.

Screw Conventional Wisdom.  If the Tea Party plans to have any impact at all, they need to push for something far bigger than "helping elect Republicans."  This is why Palin matters, and deserves more that a brushoff for her twangy voice or lack of Ivy-League connections.

You don't like her voice?  Her fzcking voice?  Really? Christie's fat.  Turning the sound off doesn't help you unsee his wideness. So what?  Bachmann's voice is irritating.  McCain says "My Friendsh" so often you wanna slap him. Limbaugh has a Letterman Lisp. Glenn Beck has weird hair. George Will wears an ugly Bow Tie and dorky glasses. Krauthammer's shoe-polished hair looks like a dying chia pet, Ace is a wookie/jawa/thingy, and you all are a bunch of unclean, unshaven Morons (yeah, me too).  So Freaking What?

Maybe y'all need to stand a little closer to the issues, and maybe get some on you. Let the lefties be the ones who operate like American Idol Survivor.

174 Let's get down to the hard facts.

One of them routinely deals or dealt with foreign governments.

One has has a long (more than 6 months) history of beating down corruption.  One does not.

One.....screw it.  Let's cut to the chase>

One has a penis (we assume) and one does not (or Andi Sullivan would have told us).

175 One has a penis (we assume) and one does not (or Andi Sullivan would have told us).

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at July 19, 2010 07:51 PM (mMcLI)

And one has a garden that Andie dreams about!

176 We need more conservative street fighters like Christie.  Conservatives that can actually make a point and use truth as a weapon.

177 So, did the Refreshing video ever air on local news?

178 "Obstetrician-General Sir Andrew S. Sullivan, Esq., O.B.E., W.T.F" LOL

179 " DrewM. at July 19, 2010 06:58 PM (X/Lqh)" Repealing Obamacare and no amnesty are mine.

180 Brewer 2012.

181 I'm a little fuzzy, how many people in the thread were chiding others for disavowing Christie for one, maybe two points, but were then disavowing Romney for one point?

182 If you haven't read the Angelo Codevilla American Spectator piece, or the VDH piece, or the London Telegraph piece all about the "country class" versus "ruling class" (which I think Rush expounded at length today about), you have to. Then ask yourself, to which class each R presidential nominee belonged or belongs to? Nixon, Ford, Bush, Dole, BushJr, McLame were all "ruling class" dudes. Only Reagan was what you'd call "country class."

Now, if you look at the potential 2012 nominees, ask which are likely to represent the "ruling class?" Mittens is as sure as his dad was the Governor of Michigan who said he was brainwashed. Sure, he'll repeal ObamaCare and shrink the size of government, and he won't be co-opted by Trent Lott, either.

OTOH, the "ruling class" narrative perfectly fits the utter, bipartisan distaste for everyone in the pundit class, R or D, foreign & domestic for Mrs. Palin. And again, I call upon all right thinking Americans to piss off the ruling class by supporting any candidate at any level of government who demonstrates NON-membership in this class. PARTICULARLY, in the R primaries.

183 don't give a damn, Palin's my gal. She's been sniped at since the elections and no better person than she deserves a chance to lead the nation into fiscal responsibility. No matter who gets the presidency, she better be in some sort of high office: Appoint her Czar of Kicking A ss and Taking Names.


We need another McCarthyist purge of all those evil bastard commies in entertainment, media, education, and politics. hell, if you want immigration reform, give me ten million of theirs for ten million of ours, starting with sean penn.

184

Look, no one here hates Romney.

Speak for yourself.

185

Yeah, Christie's great and all that.  And I know we shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, but Jeebus can't we find just ONE republican who will stand up and make the proactive case for responsible off-shore drilling instead of running like a scared poll watching rabbit? 

The numbnuts here in FL drive me crazy, they go on and on about how bad it is for the environment and how ugly it all is, despite the fact you couldn't see any such wells from shore, and all without even considering the enormous potential bonanza to the state coffers they're leaving on the table by pushing now for a constitutional ban on off shore drilling along the state's enormous 1200 mile long coastline.  That's just irresponsible. 

But, yeah, Christie's great and all that.

 

  

186 I love, love, LOVE, how the teacher in that clip complains about her salary, and when Christie tells her that she doesn't have to do it, she wags a finger at him saying "Teachers don't do it for the money".

187 Whatever flaw in the process allowed McCain to be "the last man standing" in 2008 needs to be fixed or I feel we will be seeing a lot more of that. That flaw would be open primaries. That is the first thing to fix. Registered Republican ONLY get to vote in Republican Primaries.

188 Hasn't the current occupant of the White House proven that experience is not a qualification for getting elected? And he's also proven why experience SHOULD be a qualification.

189 Good Morning America's George Stephanopoulos on Monday lobbied that if one were to "set aside" the Fort Hood terror attack and the botched Christmas bombing, there haven't been successful attacks on America in the last few years. And, hey, if we "set aside" 9/11, we haven't been attacked (domestically, that is) since 1994--whoo hoo!

190

Sorry but I along with the majority of Americans don't agree with Christie on guns. It's a deal killer for me

 

Guns and illegals make Christie a deal killer for me too. Yes, I love to see his beat-down of the public sector employees and reporters, but he's just too flawed. He may be good for NJ, but not America.

 

Guys, flush out your headgear. This is just the kind of single-issue crap that saddles us with Dems. Face it, there are probably about three people in the United States who agree with every one of your positions 100%. Are you substantially in agreement with Christie, on most matters? Close enough.

 

Otherwise, prepare to watch Obama get re-inaugurated in 2013.

191 Gov Christie is fantastic, LOVE that man!  Call me a highly devout Christieite groupie who is a big worshipping FAN of the fat man!

Unfortunately all The Ruling Class wanna-a-bes at Ace of Spades and Allahpukes pulled out the QUITTER card which means Christie cannot run until 2016 because he would have to QUIT the governorship in order to run in 2012.

Hey Ruling Class wanna-a-bes, no matter how good you are at sucking on your Jon 'fucking asshole' Stewart you will never receive full membership into The Ruling class VIP room.

That said;  please fix your impotent problem first before exposing your political idiocy.

192

Thanks to the "conservative" Christie, taxes will be going UP in New Jersey and spending will be going UP in Trenton. He's good at talking the talk but not walking the walk.

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