August 12, 2011
— DrewM
"...we conclude that the individual mandate contained in the Act exceeds CongressÂ’s enumerated commerce power."
Gabe says this is the multi-state lawsuit.
Apparently they didn't overturn the whole law but without the mandate, the whole scheme collapses. Of course, it's going to the Supreme Court but it's good to be going with at least one win.
The case stems from a challenge by 26 U.S. states which had argued the individual mandate, set to go into effect in 2014, was unconstitutional because Congress could not force Americans to buy health insurance or face the prospect of a penalty."This economic mandate represents a wholly novel and potentially unbounded assertion of congressional authority: the ability to compel Americans to purchase an expensive health insurance product they have elected not to buy, and to make them re-purchase that insurance product every month for their entire lives," a divided three-judge panel said.
2 of the 3 judges in the case were appointed by Democrats so that talking point bites the dust.
The 6th Circuit has rulled in favor of the law and the 4th still has a case outstanding. Off to SCOTUS we go!
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Posted by: Major (P) Graham at August 12, 2011 09:33 AM (Yl+oL)
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Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 09:35 AM (UOM48)
Umm... at least two, yes? Or is this the FL suit, and the whole circuit is ruling on it? If so- since the Judge who determined that case struck down the whole mandate, aren't they just either upholding or denying his ruling? In which case, wouldn't they be affirming that the whole thing is unconstitutional?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 09:36 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 09:36 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: left wing economist at August 12, 2011 09:36 AM (hHya0)
Posted by: Vacationing Obama at August 12, 2011 09:36 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Harry Reid at August 12, 2011 09:37 AM (C9VgD)
More good news:
COLUMBUS — A lawsuit attempting to block a proposed challenge to President Obama’s health care law from Ohio’s ballot was blocked itself Friday by the Ohio Supreme Court.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 12, 2011 09:37 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 09:38 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Log Cabin at August 12, 2011 09:38 AM (x1G5I)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 12, 2011 09:39 AM (EmQvy)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at August 12, 2011 09:39 AM (Jdtsu)
The Constitution is old and stuff.
Posted by: Ezra Klein, Boy Wonder at August 12, 2011 09:39 AM (UOM48)
"The [Ohio] high court unanimously found that Brian Rothenberg, executive director of the liberal advocacy group Progress Ohio, failed in his challenge of petitions filed by backers of the proposed constitutional amendment to qualify for the Nov. 8 ballot."
Unanimous.
"Progress Ohio" what a joke
Posted by: soothsayer at August 12, 2011 09:39 AM (sqkOB)
@RealClearScott Scott Conroy Palin dings Perry: "I'm glad he's entering the race, even though he said he wouldn't"
@RealClearScott Scott Conroy Another veiled Palin shot at Perry. I asked abt his record. She noted different levels of governor's power in AK vs TX
@RealClearScott Scott Conroy Palin: "I do. I see room in the field, yes."
Posted by: Johnny at August 12, 2011 09:39 AM (iT/Iy)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 09:40 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Rick Perry at August 12, 2011 09:40 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Kinda Concerned! at August 12, 2011 09:41 AM (q177U)
Obamacare: The bad guy at the end of Die Hard II
Posted by: fiatboomer at August 12, 2011 09:41 AM (0Wf6c)
Posted by: Dick Parry at August 12, 2011 09:41 AM (hHya0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 09:42 AM (UOM48)
Teach that to the deadbeats, liberals.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 12, 2011 01:39 PM (EmQvy)
yooooooooouuuuuu can affffffooooooorrrrrrrddddddd health insurance? that is not fair!!!!!!!///////
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 12, 2011 09:42 AM (IpiZb)
I was told this would happen.
Disappointed!
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 09:42 AM (MMC8r)
If so, I would think this bodes well for us in SCOTUS.
Posted by: Mike at August 12, 2011 09:42 AM (NH9Y5)
Posted by: Sam at August 12, 2011 09:42 AM (Y1epK)
Posted by: EC at August 12, 2011 09:42 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 09:43 AM (VtjlW)
COLUMBUS — A lawsuit attempting to block a proposed challenge to President Obama’s health care law from Ohio’s ballot was blocked itself Friday by the Ohio Supreme Court.
Getting better..
Posted by: Dave C at August 12, 2011 09:43 AM (C9VgD)
Good thing President Guest Lecturer is on vacation! His enablers probably won't mention this.
Posted by: Soetoro Zero at August 12, 2011 09:44 AM (MJ2eC)
Posted by: baseballguy at August 12, 2011 09:44 AM (MaS0T)
Posted by: Zombie Gen. George Patton at August 12, 2011 09:44 AM (UOM48)
It'd better, or we'll never get rid of the taxes.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 09:44 AM (MMC8r)
30 Somebody put me some knowledge on this, but if I recollect, the Congress (in its infinite wisdom) failed to put a severability clause in this, didn't they? Which means if one part gets struck down, the whole thing comes down like a giant Jenga tower in an earthquake, right?
Not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Motel 6 once. Yes, without a severability clause the whole thing comes a tumbling down. That is unless the philosophy of social justice is applied and then severability becomes a "whitey" word for punishing colored folks. So next stop the Supremes, where we find out whether the Supremes are a group of jurists or a singing team with soul. "Set Me Free Why Don't You Babe - You Just Keep Me Hanging On"
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 09:45 AM (0M3AQ)
We need the burning skull to have a surgical mask.
A burning skull honey badger with Blago hair in a surgical mask.
I'm a simple creature with simple needs.
And, yup, there's no severability language in the act so if any part goes down, it all goes down.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 09:46 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Kinda Concerned! at August 12, 2011 09:46 AM (q177U)
You beat me to it. I was wondering the same thing, so if this is the case, what happens if the individual mandate is shot down even at the SCOTUS level? Does this giant bitch go up in flames? Legal wise, that is, not logistics wise.
This news almost makes up for me having the same birthday today as the Spooky Dude.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 12, 2011 09:46 AM (ycuSb)
Posted by: cherry π at August 12, 2011 09:46 AM (OhYCU)
The Lyin kINGS POS Position is that any supreme that was sitting in on his first SOTU address where he whipped it out and pissed all over the Supremes must recuse, er excuse, ah disqualify therselfs for conflicted interest on Obammycare!
There!
Posted by: Jim Carney at August 12, 2011 09:46 AM (vXqv3)
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Posted by: Jypsea Rose at August 12, 2011 09:47 AM (A4C5M)
Posted by: baseballguy at August 12, 2011 09:48 AM (MaS0T)
Posted by: cherry π at August 12, 2011 09:48 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: BigDaddy1964 at August 12, 2011 09:48 AM (DueYW)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 09:48 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 09:48 AM (0M3AQ)
Does this give Boehner the balls to pass a bill in the House BLOCKING the implementation of ANY more provisions of this unconstitutional power grab?
Crap didn't think so.
Posted by: Cocealed carry or submitt at August 12, 2011 09:49 AM (vXqv3)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 09:49 AM (AZGON)
It all unravels without the mandate because that was what got the insurance companies to go along with the rest of the crap - they cannot afford to cover all preexisting conditions, cover kids up to age 26, etc. unless they get this big new pool of customers who are mostly healthy.
Of course, if Obama is reelected, the fix for this is a public option.
Posted by: rockmom at August 12, 2011 09:49 AM (lSyyU)
I made this for you and Ace. Obligatory Gladiator scene reference
http://tinyurl.com/3vd9ye6
Posted by: Sam at August 12, 2011 09:49 AM (Y1epK)
Posted by: cherry π at August 12, 2011 09:49 AM (OhYCU)
After all the work I did on the debt ceiling bill, this is how you treat me.
*sniff*
Posted by: John Boehner at August 12, 2011 09:49 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: baseballguy at August 12, 2011 09:50 AM (MaS0T)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 09:50 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Shame The Shameless at August 12, 2011 09:50 AM (dh5Eu)
"The individual mandate, however, can be severed from the remainder of the ActÂ’s myriad reforms. The presumption of severability is rooted in notions of judicial restraint and respect for the separation of powers in our constitutional system. The ActÂ’s other provisions remain legally operative after the mandateÂ’s excision, and the high burden needed under Supreme Court precedent to rebut the presumption of severability has not been met."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 12, 2011 09:51 AM (DEcmU)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 09:51 AM (AZGON)
Not that I joy seeing a president torn down like the left did to Bush 41 and 43 , but I do enjoy seeing their collective inquisition and crusades challenged and discredited.
Posted by: Shiggz at August 12, 2011 09:52 AM (v8Pb8)
Not me, I want this marxist shit sammich dead. Yesterday.
Posted by: Shame The Shameless at August 12, 2011 09:52 AM (dh5Eu)
Posted by: beedubya at August 12, 2011 09:52 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Roi Barack XIV, parmi les larmes at August 12, 2011 09:52 AM (AZGON)
92 The court is ignoring the lack of severability clause in the bill:
"The individual mandate, however, can be severed from the remainder of the ActÂ’s myriad reforms. The presumption of severability is rooted in notions of judicial restraint and respect for the separation of powers in our constitutional system. The ActÂ’s other provisions remain legally operative after the mandateÂ’s excision, and the high burden needed under Supreme Court precedent to rebut the presumption of severability has not been met."
Okay I read that and think it says "we can do what we want because we make this shit up out of thin air". Is that about right?
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 09:54 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 12, 2011 09:54 AM (FnRYN)
I think they are in charge of 2/3 of the government right now and they are implementing hundreds of job-killing policies as we speak. We live in a Socialist country right now.
Posted by: cherry π at August 12, 2011 09:54 AM (OhYCU)
Gee I wonder which way the Clinton and Obama justices will vote-based on the Constituition of course.
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 12, 2011 09:55 AM (g5MrG)
Well, you can go with that if you want the perps go free.
Antagonizing the court is never a good idea.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 12, 2011 09:55 AM (DEcmU)
Posted by: stuttering clus...you know the rest at August 12, 2011 09:55 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 09:55 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 09:56 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 09:56 AM (0M3AQ)
"We're in."
"Damn - I hate when I miss those long 2 foot putts. Anyone in for a repeal of Dodd-Frank on this knee-knockin' 1 footer?"
Posted by: baseballguy at August 12, 2011 09:56 AM (MaS0T)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 12, 2011 09:56 AM (iOewX)
Posted by: Shiggz
Actually, I am getting at least one nut off (deal with it Althouse) at seeing him being torn down. I will really enjoy it when his 'friends' turn on him. And when my leftist relatives squirm and try to engage in Newspeak, I happily point out that they're liars. "I will do unto you the worst possible thing that I can do. I will quote you". They don't seem to like it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 09:56 AM (6rX0K)
Wasn't this the appeal of Vinson's ruling that struck down all of Obamacare, not just the individual mandate? If so, this is actually a defeat for the arch conservatives, because there's no longer any court ruling that strikes down the whole law.
Posted by: jim at August 12, 2011 09:56 AM (49LlK)
Posted by: baseballguy at August 12, 2011 09:57 AM (MaS0T)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 12, 2011 09:57 AM (i6Neb)
My friends, and Hobbitts, you have nothing to fear from that great family man and country lover Barrack" big ears" OBLah Blah.
The true sign of a great leader is to have multiple bills you sponsored struck down as unconstitutional by the courts!
Posted by: Senile Senaster from AZ at August 12, 2011 09:58 AM (vXqv3)
The mandate was the cornerstone, without that, you're left with nothing but taxes and an empowered bureaucracy.
......oh.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 09:58 AM (MMC8r)
I've NEVER identified with being a victim. The direction I'd like to go in is this-"Hey, we sold the house and are moving out of state and taking our tax $$s with us (which is a considerable amount). So when you see programs being cut or entitlement checks without COLAs...I want you to think of me."
I do sex crimes almost exclusively and I do not like the use of the term "victim." I prefer "complaining witness." I don't think labeling someone as a victim helps with their recovery and the recovery of their self esteem, emotional health etc. Regardless the word "victim" is used repeatedly in the statutes so it looks like its here to stay. In the victim impact statement, they are primarily interested in any financial loss that you incurred, any emotional or nontangible loss that you incurred (for which you will not be compensated), and what type of punishment you think would be just in the instant case. If you have decided to move out of state because of this incident, I think that it is fine that you tell them so. I suspect that the judge will interpret this as less pressure on him to impose a punitive sanction since 1) the problem is taken care of if you leave and 2) you won't be around to look over his shoulder. In all likelihood, the VIS will be seen by the DA, the judge, the defendant and his counsel, the drafter of the presentence report, and very few others.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 09:59 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: ace is a loser at August 12, 2011 09:59 AM (Rkf0j)
Why yes, I think it does mean that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: Lauren at August 12, 2011 10:00 AM (cVIY5)
Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 12, 2011 10:01 AM (A23u6)
Go with something that your home is your sanctuary and you feel violated and have trouble sleeping at night without waking up and making several rounds around the house in order to feel safe..
And you had an aunt/cousin/distant relative who was raped by someone entering their house in a similar fashion.. Make up some story about that if you think it would help.. Not out and out lie but embellish...
Posted by: Dave C at August 12, 2011 10:02 AM (C9VgD)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 10:02 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: beedubya at August 12, 2011 10:02 AM (AnTyA)
I do sex crimes almost exclusively
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 01:59 PM (Hx5uv)
Is that so? Why don't you have a seat over there for a moment. No no, go ahead and finish your lemonade...
Posted by: Chris Hansen at August 12, 2011 10:02 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Kos is my homepage at August 12, 2011 10:02 AM (f8XyF)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 12, 2011 10:02 AM (dZ756)
140 Can I hope that this means that Obamacare is shovel ready? We can bury it right next to Hillarycare.
Geez, I wonder what Willard thinks of this judgement? You know he leads the pubbie field of prezzies.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 10:03 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:03 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 12, 2011 10:04 AM (c45xH)
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 10:05 AM (Yv6gq)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 10:05 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Marcus at August 12, 2011 10:05 AM (CHrmZ)
Flaming skull speaks a thousand words.
Like a flying American flag vs. Bill Ayers, best bud of dOpe, standing on one.
Posted by: Shame The Shameless at August 12, 2011 10:05 AM (dh5Eu)
Yeah, that's lawyer for "oh fuck this we are not dealing with you assholes whining to us about a stay until review by the Supremes. Fine. Haz."
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 10:05 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: South Park Culturally-Competent SEIU #101 at August 12, 2011 10:06 AM (PcoXF)
Posted by: cherry π at August 12, 2011 01:54 PM (OhYCU)
They are in formal charge of 2/3 of the Constitutionally authorized parts of the government.
They are so deeply entrenched in the entire government (Federal, State, and Local) infrastructure and regulatory empires that have accumulated since FDR that their real power is over more like 95% of every conceivable aspect of your life. That's why getting Øbama out of office is just the end of the beginning of the restoration of the Constitution.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2011 10:06 AM (yrGif)
Posted by: Thomas à Becket at August 12, 2011 10:06 AM (AZGON)
That's what we want to create here and you big meanies keep stopping us! Because Exxon Koche Pharma haliburton tells you to! Wake up brain washed sheeple our socialist democracy model werks fkin awesome! You will love the dream (who said nightmare?) country you will awake to in a few years of our doogoodery.
Posted by: Leftardia at August 12, 2011 10:06 AM (v8Pb8)
Posted by: chemjeff at August 12, 2011 10:07 AM (s3Qvq)
Two victories for hobbits this week*: WI and the unconstitutionality of the mandate.
* obama and Sauron hardest hit.
Posted by: Willy at August 12, 2011 10:08 AM (UsfPL)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 12, 2011 10:08 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Spike at August 12, 2011 10:08 AM (WLxeI)
Posted by: Bizzaro Obama at August 12, 2011 10:09 AM (v8Pb8)
I see no problem here. No problem at all.
Posted by: A Wise Latina, Interpreting The Law With Only The Wisdom That A Wise Latina Can Bring To The Table at August 12, 2011 10:09 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: grease monkey at August 12, 2011 10:10 AM (VSWPU)
Words I had concluded the appellate court would never utter.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 10:10 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 12, 2011 10:10 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 10:10 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:11 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Alex at August 12, 2011 10:11 AM (/TevE)
Posted by: curiousity at August 12, 2011 10:11 AM (c45xH)
Words I had concluded the appellate court would never utter.
Specifically teh "Exceeds Congress's enumerated commerce power" part
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 10:11 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Baraky Bartokomous at August 12, 2011 10:12 AM (v8Pb8)
Posted by: insanely curious at August 12, 2011 10:12 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: blaster at August 12, 2011 10:13 AM (l5dj7)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:13 AM (AZGON)
......oh.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 01:58 PM (MMC8r)
And you have a problem with that?
Posted by: Barky O, and I am not a stuttering sibilant clusterfuck of a failure at August 12, 2011 10:13 AM (yrGif)
No Dance of Joy for you!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 12, 2011 10:13 AM (DEcmU)
Can I use my Obamacare to go see my doctor? I'm pretty sure that this erection will last longer than four hours
Thread. Winner.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 10:14 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 10:14 AM (lbo6/)
This all really interesting and all but the most pressing issue at the moment are the shitty salaries that teacher get paid and all out assault on teachers by the vast right wing conspiracy.
MATT DAMON!!
Posted by: Matt Damon at August 12, 2011 10:15 AM (AT52Q)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 10:15 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 10:15 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 12, 2011 10:16 AM (houma)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:17 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: bi-curious at August 12, 2011 10:17 AM (/Mla1)
Boehner needs to call the House back NOW! Pass a bill stopping any further implementation of this disasters provisions. It has alreday run insurers and doctors out of business. if he wants to jump start the economy do that !
Sarah you got the megaphone tell the rejects to block all further implementation and while they are in town pass CCB again.
Come on Boehner man up you twit and kick em when their down. They would and did to Busshhhh!
Posted by: Senile Senaster from AZ at August 12, 2011 10:17 AM (vXqv3)
Wait. This is the argument FOR constitutionality? Weak.
Posted by: HitAndRun at August 12, 2011 10:18 AM (mdhVr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 10:20 AM (UOM48)
I am waiting for that DRat judge to renege and say he voted against Bammycare by mistake and meant ot vote for it.
Horses are missing heads in this judges town.
[don't make me fix anymore of your dumb spelling "errors" - DiT]Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at August 12, 2011 10:21 AM (vXqv3)
I thought you lawyerin types shied away from vague language that could be negatively interpreted against you.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 10:21 AM (0q2P7)
Oh and another thing, we need to review estate taxes so, like, when the new president takes office, he won't be able to say he inherited a mess from obama.
I say we make it illegal for republicans to inherit anything.
As you can tell I don't really think my campaign is looking that strong at the moment but if things start to look good I might change my mind on this one.
Matt Damon for President !!
Posted by: Matt Damon at August 12, 2011 10:21 AM (AT52Q)
"...we conclude that the individual mandate contained in the Act exceeds CongressÂ’s enumerated commerce power."
I would have preferred, "makes a total mockery of our Constitution and its intention to limit the government's power and reach," but this works for me.
I still think that the SCOTUS is going to find it Constitutional ... because our SCOTUS sucks donkey dick and is mostly full of arrogant Ivy League shitheads who couldn't really think their way out a wet paper bag.
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries, you can call me 'H' at August 12, 2011 10:21 AM (qMfi2)
The majority "has ignored the undeniable fact that Congress' commerce power has grown exponentially over the past two centuries and is now generally accepted as having afforded Congress the authority to create rules regulating large areas of our national economy," Marcus wrote.
Wait. This is the argument FOR constitutionality? Weak.
Posted by: HitAndRun at August 12, 2011 02:18 PM (mdhVr)
That's not even an argument. They're saying "we snuck things by you for a long time, and you didn't notice or care 'til now, so fuck off".
Posted by: bi-curious at August 12, 2011 10:21 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: meekrob at August 12, 2011 10:23 AM (/0HuL)
In CA, we already work 230 days per year for the government and can't afford much more: http://tinyurl.com/4yt4dl5
Posted by: Al at August 12, 2011 10:25 AM (FlVA8)
Posted by: meekrob at August 12, 2011 02:23 PM (/0HuL)
Whoa! Trying to change the meme? That's bold.
And you also make a good point.
Posted by: ErikW at August 12, 2011 10:26 AM (nlehU)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 10:26 AM (6rX0K)
Wait. This is the argument FOR constitutionality? Weak.
It's the squatter's rights school of legal theory.
Posted by: Alex at August 12, 2011 10:27 AM (/TevE)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 10:28 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: meekrob at August 12, 2011 10:28 AM (/0HuL)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 12, 2011 10:29 AM (dZ756)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 10:30 AM (T0NGe)
Obama made a speech yesterday at a stupid govt-subsidized battery factory in MI yesterday.
It sucked and it was long. So I edited it. And editorialized on it, a bit.
brb...
Posted by: soothsayer at August 12, 2011 10:30 AM (sqkOB)
It's the squatter's rights school of legal theory.
Posted by: Alex at August 12, 2011 02:27 PM (/TevE)
If you haven't noticed how we have been perverting the Constitution for decades by now, it must not be a problem. Just because you are a citizen, doesn't mean that you have standing to object to our takeover of your life.
Posted by: Barky O, Sharia Law Lecturer at August 12, 2011 10:32 AM (yrGif)
Merely a flesh wound.
Posted by: Barky the Black Knight at August 12, 2011 10:32 AM (BkQvr)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 12, 2011 10:32 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 02:30 PM (T0NGe)
Tie goes to the lower court's ruling. Kagan will resist recusing herself to her utmost ability, despite having co-written the expected court argument, and the press will try to cover her as best as they can.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 12, 2011 10:32 AM (UhTsC)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 10:32 AM (ignDe)
Would be much more enjoyable if they didn't try to kill us too.
Posted by: kansas at August 12, 2011 10:34 AM (mka2b)
So original intent means nothing when faced with the "accepted" power's of congress?
Judge Marcus.
Since the Constitutional limitations of government are meant to protect a political minority, since, a political majority needs no such protection, how, does such a political minority express that they do not "accept" a general expansion of Congressional power beyond original intent given that the ballot box offers no relief for a violation of rights directed at a political minority?
If you will not stand and defend the rights of persons who do not want to expand the powers of Congress without Constitutional amendment, how are you forcing them to act in order their rights be protected as is their God given right?
Marcus, you are a tyrant Judge worthy of a monarchs rule. When you allow powers of Congress to expand without a proper lawful expansion under the Constitution you authorize government power without end without due protection to the rights of the minority. You have yelled at the top of your lungs "We do not care what you want or say, we will take your rights as matter of course, as *tolerated* by the majority"
In this way you continually abuse authority and usurp rights, so then you run squarely afoul of these words, the very basis of your Juris Dicta...Ass
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 10:34 AM (0q2P7)
72 Hi Morons~
Little off topic but poking liberalism in the eye so...I'd like some help here.
While back, a group of teenagers broke out our garage window. Not just an act of random vandalism, they were planning on entering. The Castle Doctrine law here in Maryland is very weak and really has no teeth so we'd be the ones going to jail for being over protective of our home. The perp was caught, we have a court date, I'm just waiting to go testify. The Victim Advocate called this morning to advise me to come up with a Victim Impact statement...that's what I need help with.
I've NEVER identified with being a victim. The direction I'd like to go in is this-"Hey, we sold the house and are moving out of state and taking our tax $$s with us (which is a considerable amount). So when you see programs being cut or entitlement checks without COLAs...I want you to think of me."
Any ideas?
I'm pretty sure I remember seeing your Mercedies Benz in that garage. You know.... the one that's missing now? And it had a Nikon camera system with ALL the lenses setting in the front seat before that window was busted too. And some expensive Nikes. And some guns and some jewelry....that's all missing now isn't it? I'm sure I saw it there....didn't I???
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 10:34 AM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:34 AM (AZGON)
Am I the only one having multiple orgasms?
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch
I am if you are. By the by, your new title, while impressive and hawt is somewhat redundant. But as a conservanatrix, you may punish me liberally. (and by that I do NOT mean replay Obma speeches).
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 10:35 AM (326rv)
My bet is that it would be his first exposure to the actual constitution.
Posted by: kansas at August 12, 2011 10:36 AM (mka2b)
Am I the only one having multiple orgasms?
Of course, because everyone knows that the female orgasm is a myth. Like the Yeti.
Posted by: Alex at August 12, 2011 10:37 AM (/TevE)
I know. Kennedy would be vote #5 for unconstitutionality. Kagan is an ideologue but not an activist. She won't put her (self-perceived) integrity on the line for a losing cause. She'll want to leverage that in other cases.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 10:38 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:38 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 01:36 PM (8y9MW)
--They overturned the part of Vinson's ruling that said Obamacare as a whole was unconstitutional because the individual mandate couldn't be separated from the rest of the bill. So the appeals court just knocked out the only decision that held the whole act unconstitutional.
The US Supreme Court (as of now) won't have a case before it that strikes down the whole law.
Posted by: jim at August 12, 2011 10:38 AM (49LlK)
Posted by: kansas at August 12, 2011 02:36 PM (mka2b)
Barack Obama is an expert in Constitutional law in the way that Willie Sutton was an expert on bank security.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 10:39 AM (T0NGe)
..::breathless MFM panting ensues::..
Posted by: Willy at August 12, 2011 10:39 AM (UsfPL)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:39 AM (AZGON)
I'm pretty sure I remember seeing your Mercedies Benz in that garage. You know.... the one that's missing now? And it had a Nikon camera system with ALL the lenses setting in the front seat before that window was busted too. And some expensive Nikes. And some guns and some jewelry....that's all missing now isn't it? I'm sure I saw it there....didn't I???
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 02:34 PM (qwhLZ)
I think that's what he'd tell his insurance company.
For the courts ya need to go more with 'emotions'.
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2011 10:39 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Justice Kagan at August 12, 2011 10:42 AM (qITbz)
However (IANAL), I believe that feelings, emotions, negative reactions, and distress are not subject to perjury provisions.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 12, 2011 10:43 AM (yrGif)
All I need to make today great would be to find out that Obama had been forced to cancel his trip to the Vineyard on account of his being clapped in irons and hauled off to federal prison for being an indiscriminate douchebag.
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 10:45 AM (4df7R)
Interesting...
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 02:39 PM (AZGON)
In a 5-4 ruling, yes. But not if she makes a difference. If she thinks Kennedy votes for constitutionality, she'll make sure it's 4-5.
I think she is less tied into the KosKrowd than to the elite law crowd and is interested in maintaining the fiction of objectivity that Ginsberg and Sotomayor don't pull off.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 10:45 AM (T0NGe)
However (IANAL), I believe that feelings, emotions, negative reactions, and distress are not subject to perjury provisions
Crap I can't remember the name of the song but there's a musical that has a kid calling home from college trying to ask for money and his mom's a therapist so it's all "but how do you feel" and "does that make you feel upset" and he's finally "FINE! I feel like I have no belt. I feel like I need quarters for laundry. I feel like I need food!" It's hilarious.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 10:46 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 10:47 AM (AZGON)
Due to the lax nature of this states justice and public protection system I have been allowed to be victimized. As a solution I am moving to a state that more effectively enforces it's laws and punishes those that break them.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 12, 2011 10:48 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 12, 2011 10:48 AM (8ieXv)
"Un-Constitutional" is an adjective. We don't have adjectives in Spanish. Therefore, I cannot hold ObamaCare to be un-Constitutional, since we just don't even have that word available in my native tongue.
Posted by: A Wise, Empathetic Latina at August 12, 2011 10:48 AM (qMfi2)
ObamaCare just got hit by an angry bird...the black one that blows up.
Posted by: trainer at August 12, 2011 10:48 AM (Rojyk)
It's a term my hubby came up with to describe the liberal view of Sarah Palin, so the redundancy is kinda built in.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 10:49 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: Reactionary at August 12, 2011 10:49 AM (xUM1Q)
The US Supreme Court (as of now) won't have a case before it that strikes down the whole law.
Posted by: jim
They'll merely have a case that has Obama claiming that he can force anything down the throat of the country at any time. A case that, depending upon wind direction, is either a tax, a fee or a cheerfully given contribution. A case that will be the piss de resistence on Obama's pathethic grasp of finances. And which was never popular. And yet he's spending more money defending. In front of a Supreme Court that probably hates him. Evn if he wins, it's a rallying cry against him. Perry/Palin/ham sandwich 2012, death to Obmacare in 2013! It can be the first (and last) death panel.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 10:49 AM (6rX0K)
Little fucker broke my window.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 10:50 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 02:47 PM (AZGON)
I hope she doesn't recuse herself and she loses anyway. It would just make her look like the hack she is and would de-legitimize the judicial branch further.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 10:50 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: A Wise, Empathetic Latina at August 12, 2011 02:48 PM (qMfi2)
It's very unfortunate that Obie's SCOTUS appointments are so young. It could take a long time to wait for them to die.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 12, 2011 10:50 AM (xUM1Q)
ObamaCare just got hit by an angry bird...the black one that blows up.
Posted by: trainer at August 12, 2011 02:48 PM (Rojyk)
Nope. Obamacare was the bird. This ruling was Randy Johnson.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 10:50 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: yinzer at August 12, 2011 10:51 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: ntac at August 12, 2011 10:51 AM (rhHz3)
Posted by: RushBabe, Pitchfork Wielding Teahadist at August 12, 2011 10:51 AM (Ew27I)
They'll merely have a case that has Obama claiming that he can force anything down the throat of the country at any time. A case that, depending upon wind direction, is either a tax, a fee or a cheerfully given contribution. A case that will be the piss de resistence on Obama's pathethic grasp of finances.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 02:49 PM (6rX0K)
By the time ObamaCare finally crawls to the SCOTUS, the mandate will have turned into "an investment".
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries, you can call me 'H' at August 12, 2011 10:52 AM (qMfi2)
It's a term my hubby came up with to describe the liberal view of Sarah Palin, so the redundancy is kinda built in.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 02:49 PM (ignDe)
Hmmm. Any librarian glasses?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 10:52 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Judge Henry Hudson at August 12, 2011 10:53 AM (Cg50V)
Barack Obama is now trading at 49.6% for reelection on Intrade.
h/t Jonah Goldberg.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 10:53 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Judge Roger Vinson at August 12, 2011 10:54 AM (Cg50V)
She will do whatever he wants her to do.
Posted by: Shiggz at August 12, 2011 10:54 AM (v8Pb8)
@3: "I am soooo enjoying the slow-motion death of liberalism."
You can't win. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
Posted by: Liberalism at August 12, 2011 10:55 AM (xy9wk)
So the only thing that makes Obamacare remotely possible, is Unconstitutional.
That caps a great two week stretch for the POTUS...........
Posted by: Craig at August 12, 2011 10:56 AM (l+1Xf)
By the time ObamaCare finally crawls to the SCOTUS, the mandate will have turned into "an investment".
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries
Well played. I shouldn't have missed that.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 10:56 AM (6rX0K)
I'm having a hard time with the ruling that the individual mandate was severable. Not only was there no severability clause, but unless I'm mistaken the feds have been arguing until they're blue in the face that if the individual mandate is overturned, the rest of the legislation goes down with it (as if that were a bad thing). I'll have to read the opinion to see how they got there. Not the ruling that I'd hoped for, but it beats another ruling that the mandate is constitutional.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2011 10:56 AM (v+QvA)
You can't can win. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful irrelevant than you could possibly imagine.
Posted by: LiberalismFIFY
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 12, 2011 10:56 AM (h1p5V)
Posted by: Justice Sotomayor, The Wisest of Wise Latinas at August 12, 2011 10:57 AM (QKKT0)
You can't win. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
Your victory is hollow.
Posted by: 2012 Apocalypse at August 12, 2011 10:57 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Jypsea Rose at August 12, 2011 10:57 AM (A4C5M)
As I see it *IF* the SCOTUS repeals the entire Obamacare as unconstitutional, that means Barky's entire legacy will be reduced to "He got OBL" as his single accomplishment valid as a liberal talking point. Even the liberals aren't happy about the "stimulus" package these days as every time it's brought up they can't name a single thing it's funded but they keep getting punked over individual graft and itemized spending involved (IE: 350 jobs paying $40K being created at $2M each.) So the sum of his accomplishments will come down to "he got OBL and he made Jimmeh Cahter feel a LOT better about his presidency."
WURST. EVAH.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 10:57 AM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: stuiec at August 12, 2011 10:57 AM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Justice Sotomayor, The Wisest of Wise Latinas at August 12, 2011 02:57 PM (QKKT0)
Yeah, dats sum funneh!
Posted by: dananjcon at August 12, 2011 10:59 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 12, 2011 01:38 PM (0M3AQ)
Obama knows the constitution pretty well. Just like the rebel alliance understood the plans to the death star....before they blew it up.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 12, 2011 10:59 AM (pdRb1)
It's very unfortunate that Obie's SCOTUS appointments are so young. It could take a long time to wait for them to die.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 12, 2011 02:50 PM (xUM1Q)
They'll outlive the United States ... and contribute heavily to its eminent dissolution.
(I used the word considered proper by Barky and his wise Latina, so they'll understand this comment if they read it)
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries, you can call me 'H' at August 12, 2011 10:59 AM (qMfi2)
Posted by: stuiec at August 12, 2011 02:57 PM (Di3Im)
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but this case has to do primarily with the scope of Congressional authority under the Commerce Clause, not state authority under the 10th Amendment.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2011 11:01 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Spike at August 12, 2011 11:01 AM (WLxeI)
Posted by: stuiec at August 12, 2011 02:57 PM (Di3Im)
See Amendment 10.
Posted by: Ben Franklin-real COnstitutional Law Lecturer at August 12, 2011 11:02 AM (yrGif)
Posted by: Ezra Klein at August 12, 2011 11:02 AM (iT/Iy)
Anyone have a link to what candidate Obama said about the mandate? (I believe was in reaction to Hillary?) That needs to be played over and over.
Posted by: keninnorcal at August 12, 2011 11:03 AM (DnNn/)
Posted by: The Drizzle at August 12, 2011 11:04 AM (ysCLj)
Anyone have a link to what candidate Obama said about the mandate? (I believe was in reaction to Hillary?) That needs to be played over and over.
Posted by: 2012 Apocalypse at August 12, 2011 11:06 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2011 11:08 AM (fz4xL)
Surely a sign of the immanent Apocalypse.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:09 AM (0q2P7)
"WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than a dozen trade unions plan to sit out the 2012 Democratic convention because of their anger over the site of the meeting in a right-to-work state and their frustration over Democrats' struggles to create jobs.
If unions don't participate, it would deprive the party of millions of dollars that would have been spent on sky boxes and other sponsorships that usually help underwrite the convention. The move could pose a larger problem for President Barack Obama next year if an increasingly dispirited base of labor activists becomes so discouraged that it doesn't get the rank-and-file to the polls in its usual strong numbers."
Gosh, that's be a shame if there was a goon shortage come election day.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 11:09 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Latonya Johnston at August 12, 2011 11:11 AM (48wze)
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2011 11:11 AM (tqwMN)
I'm still here
Posted by: Judge Roger Vinson at August 12, 2011 02:54 PM (Cg50V)
-Part of your decision isn't, though.
Posted by: jim at August 12, 2011 11:11 AM (49LlK)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:12 AM (ZDUD4)
Knowing that this will gnaw at Barrack all though his vacation sends me to my happy place.
Posted by: Warthog at August 12, 2011 11:12 AM (WDySP)
the democratic party=unconstitunal party
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 12, 2011 11:12 AM (IpiZb)
Gosh, that's be a shame if there was a goon shortage come election day.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 03:09 PM (Hx5uv)
----------------This is the ultimate danger of engaging in identity politics. There's never enough to go around, and everyone eventually gets pissed off.
Posted by: Johnny at August 12, 2011 11:12 AM (iT/Iy)
Posted by: Streetcorner Lawyer at August 12, 2011 11:13 AM (PcoXF)
Posted by: Shiggz at August 12, 2011 11:15 AM (v8Pb8)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 12, 2011 11:16 AM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Prisoner #13894362 at August 12, 2011 11:17 AM (Zgfnd)
Posted by: t-bird at August 12, 2011 11:18 AM (FcR7P)
"There has been no shortage of court cases regarding the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act. Before today, four courts, including the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, examined the health reform law and found it constitutional.
Today, a different court ruled against the Affordable Care ActÂ’s individual responsibility provision. We strongly disagree with this decision and we are confident it will not stand."
The Latest Health Care Court Case Posted by on August 12, 2011 at 02:37 PM EDTPosted by: curious at August 12, 2011 11:18 AM (k1rwm)
Poor Aaron Rodgers. Can't president Mincing Clown keep his damn trap shut for five minutes? He's like the little kid in the corner that constantly waves his hand in the air and shouts "Look at me! I made another poopy!"
Amusingly, he knows even less about sports than he does about economics. And that's saying something.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 12, 2011 11:19 AM (h1p5V)
Just for the books, does anyone have any guess as to how much it cost the US to have the federal government spend almost all of its time, for well over a year, to pass one shitty piece of legislation that throws everyone into total confusion over what is happening and then takes another few years of massive work and court cases and votes and such to finally repeal/have ruled "obviously and trivially un-Constitutional" and kill?
BTW, the whole GOP leadership is celebrating this decision more than anyone else, since they have been counting on the court to do their job of getting rid of this amazingly un-American, stupid, wasteful, commie health takeover and feral government expansion. If left to the GOP, ObamaCare would be with us forever.
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries, you can call me 'H' at August 12, 2011 11:19 AM (qMfi2)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:20 AM (ZDUD4)
they just love fridays.....
Posted by: curious at August 12, 2011 11:21 AM (k1rwm)
Get it right!!!
Obama is a stuttering "B" clusterfuck of a miserable "B" failure!
Didn't we resolve this yesterday after the Felonious video???
Getwiththeprogam B's!!!
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 11:22 AM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:23 AM (ZDUD4)
So what? Obama folks think it's legal and intend to defend it, and start of by opining that it's legal? In other news dog bites man; Large natural fusion reaction sighted in the eastward morning sky; scientists conclude water is in fact "wet".
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:23 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Ian S. at August 12, 2011 03:11 PM (tqwMN)
If Rodgers has just now, at this very minute, slammed his hand in a car door and severed all the fingers on his throwing hand, I would not be surprised.
Anything and Everything Obama has put his hand to has promptly turned to shit.
Posted by: Pornoy at August 12, 2011 11:23 AM (KROfR)
Is Obama aware A-Rodg is one of those "millionaires and billionaires" he wants to punish in the name of "fairness"? Better question: Is A-Rodg aware of Obama's wishes?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 12, 2011 11:24 AM (0vDuM)
Posted by: curious at August 12, 2011 03:21 PM (k1rwm)
Warum gehst du nicht und fütterst deine Katzen. Sie sind hungrig.
Posted by: Ma Bell at August 12, 2011 11:24 AM (H/MnC)
Posted by: Shiggz at August 12, 2011 03:15 PM (v8Pb
You're wrong. The method and the message of social conservatism is the same today as it has always been. The difference is that the American people have, in the last two and a half years, have gotten the full taste of the greasy ass-crack that's liberalism/socialism. Call it America's educational years.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 12, 2011 11:25 AM (UkTU+)
Posted by: Shiggz at August 12, 2011 03:15 PM (v8Pb
Oh yes, it is very apropos to compare the two groups. Why I remember when social conservatives started beating up liberals with truncheons and engaging in illegal voting practices.
I pity the people who believe that the GOP would 'win' if social issues went away.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 12, 2011 11:26 AM (FkKjr)
311 Obama just said Aaron Rodgers is the greatest QB ever, and they should trade him to da Bears. Now taking bets on how hard the Obama Sports Curse is going to hit the kid.
Thank GOD he didn't do that to Peyton Manning and the Colts.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 11:26 AM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: t-bird at August 12, 2011 11:27 AM (FcR7P)
LOL! Of course, Barky McBumbles has made my fantasy football picks that much easier. Won't be going with Rodgers this year...
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 12, 2011 11:27 AM (h1p5V)
Posted by: Disenchanted 52%er at August 12, 2011 11:27 AM (LaD/H)
Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2011 11:29 AM (fz4xL)
Posted by: Johnny at August 12, 2011 11:29 AM (iT/Iy)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 11:29 AM (bxiXv)
Why yes it does.......
Posted by: Crowsting, who like many others knows that Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 12, 2011 11:29 AM (61BD9)
Posted by: pouty libs at August 12, 2011 11:29 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2011 11:30 AM (fz4xL)
Posted by: Bret Favre at August 12, 2011 11:31 AM (FcR7P)
I've seen no sign that they are learning anything.Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 11:31 AM (bxiXv)
I didn't realize Gary Coleman was present at the signing of ObamaCare. Yes, with the passage of this unprecedented legislation even washed-up sitcom midgets can look forward to a happy and productive life....
Oh wait, never mind. He died a few months later.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 12, 2011 11:32 AM (lT/p/)
Women have orgasms?
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 03:30 PM (kUaEF)
Well, apparently not when you're around.
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2011 11:32 AM (X6akg)
Obama is a stuttering "B" clusterfuck of a miserable "B" failure!
Didn't we resolve this yesterday after the Felonious video???
Getwiththeprogam B's!!!
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 03:22 PM (qwhLZ)
Erm, not quite.
Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, B!
or
B, Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure!
Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2011 11:32 AM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 03:30 PM (kUaEF)
Only because we think guys care about that sort of thing.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:32 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: Dave at August 12, 2011 11:32 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: buzzion at August 12, 2011 11:32 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 03:30 PM (kUaEF)
Well, apparently not when you're around.
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2011 03:32 PM (X6akg)
Oh damn! You gonna take that shit?
Posted by: ErikW at August 12, 2011 11:33 AM (nlehU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 03:29 PM (bxiXv)
I think it's "penumbras and emanations," (which sounds more than vaguely obscene) but yes, it's a "make it up as we go along" concept for sure.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2011 11:33 AM (DrWcr)
I'm sorry to here that. Of course, here in Dallas, we're quite sanguine about the idea of a season-ending endorsement by Barack Obama, who is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 11:33 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:33 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 11:34 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Michael 'I
Posted by: curious at August 12, 2011 03:21 PM (k1rwm)
Warum gehst du nicht und fütterst deine Katzen. Sie sind hungrig.
Posted by: Ma Bell at August 12, 2011 03:24 PM (H/MnC)
Ausgezeichnet.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2011 11:34 AM (T2/zQ)
It is its day job.
The other one is its night job, IYKWIM.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 11:34 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 12, 2011 11:35 AM (UkTU+)
Posted by: steevy at August 12, 2011 11:35 AM (fz4xL)
Posted by: yinzer at August 12, 2011 11:35 AM (/Mla1)
Not if prominently hung in the public square.
Posted by: Paco Jimminez Del-Rio and Ardent Perry Supporter at August 12, 2011 03:34 PM (EL+OC)
I believe you mean hanged.
Posted by: Ron Jeremy at August 12, 2011 11:35 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Barbarian at August 12, 2011 11:36 AM (EL+OC)
Once again, somebody just had to go back to that whole myth of the female orgasm, didn't they?
Seriousminded people do not engage in fantasy or un-scientific nonsense.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 12, 2011 11:36 AM (WvXvd)
Posted by: Dave at August 12, 2011 11:36 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 11:36 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2011 11:36 AM (T2/zQ)
Obama loves the Constitution like Teamsters love "scabs."
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2011 11:37 AM (DrWcr)
Obama is to Constitution as Methane is to Match.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 11:37 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 11:37 AM (T0NGe)
I believe you mean hanged.
Posted by: Ron Jeremy at August 12, 2011 03:35 PM (DrWcr)
English is my second language Holmes.
Posted by: Paco Jimminez Del-Rio and Ardent Perry Supporter at August 12, 2011 11:37 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: cherry π at August 12, 2011 11:37 AM (OhYCU)
I know it feels like the JEF has been in office forever, but here's my favorite photo of Boooshitler evah.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 12, 2011 11:38 AM (0vDuM)
Once again, somebody just had to go back to that whole myth of the female orgasm, didn't they?
Seriousminded people do not engage in fantasy or un-scientific nonsense.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 12, 2011 03:36 PM (WvXvd)
You guys are really just jealous of the multiple part, aren't ya?
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:38 AM (ignDe)
Once again, somebody just had to go back to that whole myth of the female orgasm, didn't they?
Seriousminded people do not engage in fantasy or un-scientific nonsense.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 12, 2011 03:36 PM (WvXvd)
Another one self-outed. heh
Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2011 11:38 AM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: Man at August 12, 2011 11:39 AM (Xm1aB)
Show that one to mumsie, troll, and maybe she'll give you a cookie and a glass of milk to soothe your sorrows.
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT at August 12, 2011 11:39 AM (Zgfnd)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 03:30 PM (kUaEF)
Only because we think guys care about that sort of thing.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch
Orgasms aren't 'had'; they're given.
And I am a giver.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 11:39 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 11:39 AM (bxiXv)
I wasn't going to the original quote there but mixing memes as they were essentially saying there was a precedent for inserting severability clauses.
So it wasn't authentic, but it was deliberate.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 03:36 PM (bxiXv)
Gotcha. I guess my meta-detector needs to be more finely tuned today.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2011 11:39 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:39 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 11:40 AM (qwhLZ)
If you cared more about woman's orgasms, you wouldn't have to ask for a sammich, they would just magically appear. Seriously.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:40 AM (ignDe)
No, you're a stuttering sibilant clusterfuck of a miserable failure, you stuttering sibilant clusterfuck of a miserable failure!
Was that over the top? I can never tell...
Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at August 12, 2011 11:40 AM (GBXon)
B is short for "brutha."
Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2011 11:41 AM (T2/zQ)
I'm waiting for a conversation consisting of nothing but letters.
Uhmmm....like.....every post here???
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 11:41 AM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 11:41 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: at August 12, 2011 11:41 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 11:42 AM (kUaEF)
If you cared more about woman's orgasms, you wouldn't have to ask for a sammich, they would just magically appear. Seriously.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 03:40 PM (ignDe
heh....they just can't wrap their head around this concept............
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 12, 2011 11:42 AM (IpiZb)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 03:39 PM (ZDUD4)
Oh damn!
RELEASE THE FLAMEWAR!
Posted by: ErikW at August 12, 2011 11:42 AM (nlehU)
>> You guys are really just jealous of the multiple part, aren't ya?
Please. Lies, built upon fairy tales. "The earth is flat! Nooo, the earth is flat AND rides upon the back of a giant turtle".
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 12, 2011 11:42 AM (WvXvd)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 03:40 PM (ignDe)
Go, Moronette, go!
Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2011 11:42 AM (T2/zQ)
thighs muffling your ears!
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 03:42 PM (kUaEF)
Dude, I had no idea you were a contortionist!
Posted by: Insomniac at August 12, 2011 11:42 AM (DrWcr)
Huh. I assumed it was for "bitch". But I was going on the context presented in Munk's video.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:43 AM (ignDe)
Seriousminded people do not engage in fantasy or un-scientific nonsense.
Good thing none of us are serious minded.
Dammit, now I have the whole semaphore conversation in Chasing Amy stuck in my brain. GET IT OUT GET IT OUT!
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 11:43 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Dave at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (Xm1aB)
Then they say it's orgasms all the way down!
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (r0xbL)
Posted by: Jypsea Rose at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (A4C5M)
Posted by: at August 12, 2011 03:41 PM (k1rwm)
Oh mein Gott, hier sind wir wieder.......................
Posted by: Ma Bell, Soup Nazi at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (H/MnC)
Once again, somebody just had to go back to that whole myth of the female orgasm, didn't they?
Seriousminded people do not engage in fantasy or un-scientific nonsense.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 12, 2011 03:36 PM (WvXvd)
You guys are really just jealous of the multiple part, aren't ya?
Done it. Not all that it's cracked up to be. Being virtually guaranteed to have 1 *every* *single* *time* no matter who you're with is what you etts are so jealous about ain't it?
As a friend of mine would say. "The worst piece of ass I've ever had was excellent. "
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Marvin the Martian at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Johnny at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (iT/Iy)
it's funny how the idiot stayed away when ace was here..........
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (IpiZb)
Posted by: Perky Katie Couric's Vagina
I thought that the Sybians were revolting? Or was that the Lesbians we're bombing?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 11:44 AM (bxiXv)
The rechargeable battery is a miracle of our time. Just. Sayin'.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 11:45 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Y-not at August 12, 2011 11:45 AM (5H6zj)
Please. Lies, built upon fairy tales. "The earth is flat! Nooo, the earth is flat AND rides upon the back of a giant turtle".
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 12, 2011 03:42 PM (WvXvd)
See, it's this kind of ignorance that led to the invention of vibrators.
The Dildo Industry thanks you.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:46 AM (ignDe)
"Excuse me. I speak Jive."
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 12, 2011 11:46 AM (bjRNS)
Posted by: alexthechick
And if you put it into certain appliances, you can fun with that too.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 11:46 AM (6rX0K)
Huh?
Posted by: B. at August 12, 2011 11:47 AM (cVIY5)
Don't worry. Age will fix that.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 12, 2011 11:47 AM (0vDuM)
Posted by: proudvastrightwingconspirator at August 12, 2011 11:47 AM (hyRD4)
But that has no Nazi connotations for the Black Hole of Stupid's "monitor" "friends" to freak out about.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 12, 2011 11:47 AM (r0xbL)
Speaking of rechargeable batteries, Amber Heard is playing a Playboy Bunny?
See. God loves me and wants me to have nice things.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 11:47 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 12, 2011 11:48 AM (UkTU+)
Posted by: blaster at August 12, 2011 11:49 AM (l5dj7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 11:49 AM (kUaEF)
I have a toy I like to call old faithful that would totally disagree with you.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:49 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 03:44 PM (bxiXv)
Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.
Posted by: Ministry of Truth at August 12, 2011 11:50 AM (v+QvA)
It's like double-secret code, except that you only have 26 words to work with.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 12, 2011 03:44 PM (bxiXv)
LOL
Posted by: baldilocks is happy to help her white bruthas and sistas decipher Jive at August 12, 2011 11:50 AM (T2/zQ)
Well you know when it comes to dealing with something yourself, batteries seem so...well unnecessary. But of course I guess the need for the equipment owner to get *extra* help for quick and easy operatio is QED to the fact, that it's not us it's you.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:50 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 11:51 AM (kUaEF)
once again, proving my point.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:51 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:51 AM (ZDUD4)
But of course I guess the need for the equipment owner to get *extra* help for quick and easy operatio is QED to the fact, that it's not us it's you.
Or that I'm anti-carpal tunnel. One of those.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 11:52 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:52 AM (0q2P7)
Yeah, well the upside is that I can stick it in a drawer when I'm done and it doesn't whine for sammiches.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:53 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 11:53 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Shiggz
I pity the people who believe that the GOP would 'win' if social issues went away.Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk"
I know 2-3 sentences by strangers in internet text are a terrible way to discuss big things. I didn't say they did the same behavior only that in terms of cultural acceptance they are similarly helping to dig their own hole. Though I know theire are many around, I am not one of those people who think we would be better without social conservatives. In fact I would say I agree/sympathetic with social conservatives about half the time, and most of the time I disagree its only from a what should government outlaw.. not what is morally wrong position.
I also don't think you would argue that social conservatives have over the years had a number of flawed messengers and have struggled with a "brand" problem. Sure the media tried to destroy them but their missteps often made the medias job like T-ball.
I think a great example, the old way religious conservatives handled abortion versus the newer way. Their smarter handling of it has helped the country away from lefts abortion on demand positions over the last half century. How many social issues can you say the country has become more conservative on in the last decades? Think of the movie Juno being written by lefties in the 60-70-80- even the 90's? Yet there it was shown in 07 without much noise from even leftists.
Like my original point, Unions will probably either disappear or learn similar lessons. It all reminds me of that old book "who moved my cheese."
Posted by: Shiggz at August 12, 2011 11:53 AM (v8Pb8)
Posted by: at August 12, 2011 11:53 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:54 AM (ZDUD4)
Well let's just say if things were *easy* you could be in and out of the operation before you even had to worry about your wrist getting tired. But alas....
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:54 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 12, 2011 11:54 AM (UlUS4)
Tuna and Yeast get old.
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 03:53 PM (kUaEF)
Would you like to try the strawberry jam?
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:54 AM (ignDe)
>>You know what I love most: They did this as he was going on vacation. - Posted by: AmishDude at August 12, 2011 03:37 PM (T0NGe)<<
I kinda wish they hadn't done that - I wanna see the full-on meltdown of Barky having to get in front of the American people every single day in the week or two after this ruling and try to keep from blowing his top.
Now we're going to be robbed of that deliciousness.
I want the American people to see WHAT THEY ELECTED in all its glory as he has a temper tantrum that would rival that of the most spoiled 5-year-old brat whose mommy finally told him he wasn't getting a cookie for dessert.
Instead, he's going to be able to take out his frustrations in private, and by the time he gets back, he'll have had a chance to figure out how to appear calm and collected in front of the clueless masses.....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 12, 2011 11:54 AM (MXC7a)
Posted by: Jypsea Rose at August 12, 2011 11:54 AM (A4C5M)
Tuna and Yeast get old.
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 03:53 PM (kUaEF)
There are medications for both of those. Oops!
Posted by: baldilocks is happy to help her white bruthas and sistas decipher Jive at August 12, 2011 11:55 AM (T2/zQ)
People don't look at me funny at the TSA when they search me and find I've got...hands.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 12, 2011 11:56 AM (0q2P7)
Heh. I can get my own check and the other two things can be acquired through other means. Capitalism rocks.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:56 AM (ignDe)
LOL. Ok, that was funny.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 11:57 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: baldilocks is happy to help her white bruthas and sistas decipher Jive at August 12, 2011 11:57 AM (T2/zQ)
And here I thought only feminists reduced men to sperm and money.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 12, 2011 11:57 AM (0vDuM)
This escalated quickly.
Which is funny because.. ok never mind.
Okay, now someone wanted to know why I was giggling. I was all "there is no possible way I can explain this."
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 11:57 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 11:57 AM (ZDUD4)
Heh. I can get my own check and the other two things can be acquired through other means. Capitalism rocks.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch
Technically, you can get all three via the one means, and it would still be considered a form of capitalism.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 11:58 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Ma Bell, Soup Nazi at August 12, 2011 11:58 AM (H/MnC)
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2011 11:58 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 11:59 AM (2tTzd)
By far the funniest post today. Thank you for making me laugh out loud, Alex.
Posted by: Aunty Entity at August 12, 2011 11:59 AM (FU3yL)
Downside, it won't bring home a check, cut the grass or give you a child.
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 03:54 PM (ZDUD4)
She could rent it out to the bathhouse down the street.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 12, 2011 12:00 PM (UkTU+)
Posted by: baldilocks is happy to help her white bruthas and sistas decipher Jive at August 12, 2011 12:00 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 12:01 PM (ignDe)
ma bell
i'm not convinced it's female....but i'm sure the gift would be used in either case.........
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 12, 2011 12:01 PM (IpiZb)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at August 12, 2011 12:01 PM (MXC7a)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 12:02 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 12, 2011 12:02 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2011 12:02 PM (h+qn8)
I'm more of a pale peach with polka dots!
Posted by: Y-not at August 12, 2011 12:04 PM (5H6zj)
Well, I can do it myself if I wanted to, but usually any number of places will take care of that for 20 bucks or so. Kinda like how you get your BJ's.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 12, 2011 12:05 PM (ignDe)
Posted by: cherry π at August 12, 2011 12:07 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 12:07 PM (lbo6/)
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2011 04:02 PM (h+qn
That's the mark of a good, un-PC joke! Thanks. heh
Posted by: baldilocks is happy to help her white bruthas and sistas decipher Jive at August 12, 2011 12:09 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2011 12:09 PM (h+qn8)
I'm glad you're here. "Raising the roof":
Still a valid dance move, amiright?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 04:07 PM (lbo6/)
I turn 50 in a couple of weeks and so does my lower back, so I'm the wrong person to ask.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 12, 2011 12:10 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch
And Cool Czech goes down! (alone)
Posted by: zombie Howard Cosell at August 12, 2011 12:14 PM (6rX0K)
I used to be able to do The Hammer but if I tried it now, I'd probably end up in the ICU.
Too legit!
Posted by: ErikW at August 12, 2011 12:17 PM (nlehU)
I used to be able to do The Hammer but if I tried it now, I'd probably end up in the ICU.
Too legit!
Posted by: ErikW at August 12, 2011 04:17 PM (nlehU)
:::snort:::
Posted by: baldilocks, like the rest of the Moron horde, is getting old at August 12, 2011 12:22 PM (T2/zQ)
Posted by: buzzion at August 12, 2011 12:23 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2011 12:27 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: willow at August 12, 2011 12:28 PM (h+qn8)
__________
Which one's "Brawndo"?
Posted by: Anachronda at August 12, 2011 12:30 PM (xGZ+b)
Conservative, intelligent, and funny.
Seriously, if you haven't, ya need to pop over to her blog.
Posted by: jwm at August 12, 2011 12:31 PM (spEu4)
:::blushes::: You're sweet.
I haven't been blogging much; working as Social Media geek for a start-up (two person) publishing company. But have a co-blogger there who posts about once a week and does great work.
Posted by: baldilocks, like the rest of the Moron horde, is getting old at August 12, 2011 12:35 PM (T2/zQ)
Wait, she's dead.
Nevermind.
Posted by: MarkD at August 12, 2011 12:38 PM (iYBP2)
Posted by: hous bin pharteen at August 12, 2011 12:39 PM (M+RZq)
Posted by: hous bin pharteen at August 12, 2011 12:45 PM (M+RZq)
From The Corner comments section:
Rush just had an interesting point. ObamaCare was passed by the Senate as a budget reconciliation, not as a regular bill. Under the rules of budget reconciliation, a bill cannot have a significant impact on the budget. The mandate was how they got ObamaCare to be scored as revenue neutral by the CBO.
Without the mandate, ObamaCare is no longer budget neutral.
I'd be very surprised if the courts would rule that the bill was not properly passed, since reconciliation is a Senate rule and the court has a long history of staying out of such fights.
On the other hand, under the rules of reconciliation, a bill that is not revenue neutral must expire in 7 years. (That's why the Bush tax cuts had to be renewed.)
If the SC does strike down the mandate but leave the rest of the bill intact, would that mean that ObamaCare must expire in 7 years unless it is renewed?
Posted by: My Sharia Moor at August 12, 2011 12:49 PM (ZY+lZ)
Posted by: baldilocks, like the rest of the Moron horde, is getting old at August 12, 2011 12:49 PM (T2/zQ)
You know I've always wondered about that with Pig Latin. I know the standard is to take away the first letter, but since that rule doesn't apply to words beginning with vowels would ch-,th- and sh- require a special rule as well? So instead of Harles cay, wouldn't you actually want to go with Arles chay?
Posted by: buzzion at August 12, 2011 12:53 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: jwm at August 12, 2011 12:53 PM (spEu4)
I asked the same basic question above, and from what I've heard, it appears the bill would have to go back to the House to fix that issue. No idea what happens if the House says, "not interested".
Posted by: Johnny at August 12, 2011 12:57 PM (iT/Iy)
Dude, pig latin is like my 6th language!
English, Jive, German, Russian, the usual contingent of Spanish that an Californian speaks, pig Latin
Cop me some slack, Jack!
Posted by: baldilocks channels Barbara Billingsley at August 12, 2011 12:58 PM (T2/zQ)
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