November 21, 2011
— Open Blogger It was filmed in Daraa, Syria, in May of 2011. When the people of Syria took to the streets to demand their rights, they were asking for the basic right to speak freely, to assemble peaceably, to choose their own leaders through free and fair elections, and to shape their own destinies. Their very existence together on the streets of Syria's cities was an act of defiance to the Assad regime, and this video shows how that regime reacts to acts of defiance. It gives an unblinking look at the dead and the dying.
Some people draw parallels to the Arab Spring, Tahrir Square in Cairo and the streets of Daraa and Homs, to the Occupy movement. I frankly don't see the parallels at all: the people of the Arab dictatorships are doing the only thing they can to struggle out from under dictatorships that have maintained power through murder and torture, whereas there are many purposeful and effective actions available to citizens of Western democracies beyond forming encampments that give rudimentary form to inchoate rage.
Remember this when you see expressions of outrage at the "horrific police brutality" perpetrated by the cops at UC Davis who pepper-sprayed the Occupiers.
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 21, 2011 10:01 AM (8y9MW)
Everytime i hear "Allah Akbar" my level of sympathy dwindles.
Are those the only two words people in the Middle East know?
Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2011 10:02 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Obama-fy Wall Street at November 21, 2011 10:03 AM (FcR7P)
Are those the only two words people in the Middle East know?
Posted by: Ben at November 21, 2011 02:02 PM (wuv1c)
there's three, don't forget - infidels
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 21, 2011 10:03 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: ThomasD at November 21, 2011 10:04 AM (9yHeH)
Posted by: Juan McLame at November 21, 2011 10:06 AM (7rV2S)
If you like your Islamic Republic, you can keep your Islamic Republic.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at November 21, 2011 10:07 AM (7rV2S)
These people are not protesting for freedom and democracy - they want to swap the totalitarianism of Assad for the even more brutal totalitarianism of islam.
I'm sure the same videos could have been taken when the Shah of Iran was fighting to stay in power - the Shah lost, sharia law established, how did that work out for the people? Instead of a few hundred radicals killed a year tens of thousands of ordinary people were killed. But the islamic regime was anti-American, so that made it ok.
There are no good guys in the islamic world, only bad guys and even worse guys.
Posted by: Rebar at November 21, 2011 10:08 AM (uPpYX)
Islam and democracy are mutually excluding each other. Democracy is build on the idea that every vote is equal, that violates sharia law, since a mohammedan man and anything else (may it be woman or "infidel") can't be equal under it.
So my sympathies are virtually non-existant. Let them kill each other. Keeps them busy and away from Israel and the rest of the world.
Posted by: AKM at November 21, 2011 10:09 AM (pVu/6)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at November 21, 2011 10:09 AM (6IReR)
Oh man, the guys jaw got blown off. fuckin brutal.
Can't watch anymore.
Islam, get your peace today!
Posted by: dananjcon at November 21, 2011 10:13 AM (8ieXv)
That's not entirely true- though it's how we should view things from a policy standpoint. There are a small (sometimes it seems trivially small) number of (classical) Liberal Thinkers who are also Muslim. It's just that most of them only stay "in the islamic world" just long enough to realize that being a Liberal Thinker in the Islamic World is not conducive to long life.
Then they find some other place to stand in "solidarity" with their imagined supporters.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 21, 2011 10:14 AM (8y9MW)
"Peace" like "Liberty" and "Freedom" is a word with many meanings. We need to be sure just exactly which meaning we're using before we can have a discussion.
The Mullahs do not particularly desire justice, or liberty, or even mere "quiet." They desire conformity. Which they then label "peace."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 21, 2011 10:16 AM (8y9MW)
In fairness, they probably smell better after a dose of Cayenne Perfume than they did before.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 21, 2011 10:17 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Holger at November 21, 2011 10:18 AM (zaVyn)
But when you look at Frontpage's October persecution article, can we really say we're surprised how they treat each other, when they brutalize their Christian minorities?
Nuke the site from orbit.
Posted by: Iblis at November 21, 2011 10:18 AM (9221z)
Posted by: t-bird at November 21, 2011 10:19 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Holger at November 21, 2011 10:20 AM (zaVyn)
Posted by: t-bird at November 21, 2011 10:23 AM (FcR7P)
the people of the Arab dictatorships are doing the only thing they can to struggle out from under dictatorships that have maintained power through murder and torture,
You make it sound as if arabs living under brutal dictatorships is not the norm, even though just about every single arab society in history has been under a brutal dictatorship. That's the way of the desert. It just doesn't make for people who can be dealt with in any other context.
And arabs are only ever looking to throw out the CURRENT brutal dictator, after which they are happy to submit themselves to the next brutal dictator.
Posted by: really ... at November 21, 2011 10:24 AM (meyVd)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 21, 2011 10:25 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at November 21, 2011 10:25 AM (GMzH2)
Questions to all morons: Who is the more Nixonian, Willard or Newt? Just askin.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 21, 2011 10:27 AM (0M3AQ)
There are no good guys in the islamic world, only bad guys and even worse guys.
Posted by: Rebar at November 21, 2011 02:08 PM (uPpYX)
Amen. The more of each other they eliminate the better. If only we had the good sense to help them along. We have strategic weapons to spare.
Posted by: Reactionary at November 21, 2011 10:28 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Havedash at November 21, 2011 10:28 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: Lame Stream Media at November 21, 2011 10:30 AM (2uovW)
Posted by: izoneguy at November 21, 2011 10:34 AM (i6Neb)
Posted by: izoneguy at November 21, 2011 10:35 AM (i6Neb)
Buy your gun now. I forget who it was, a few days back, asking for weapons advice but I hope he sees this.
Posted by: Pecos, All Perry, all the time at November 21, 2011 10:40 AM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: Zimriel at November 21, 2011 10:42 AM (rFFmK)
>>They would do the same to all of us and have a parade to celebrate.
This I believe as well. But, for the dead and dying, those are no longer my enemies. So, of course, I'll pray for them.
Posted by: Least I can do at November 21, 2011 10:50 AM (3ZtZW)
I know one thing: This is why we have a Second Amendment, not to go deer hunting. Deer hunting is a bonus, staying free is not.
Posted by: Dandolo at November 21, 2011 10:52 AM (GAJm6)
Posted by: slatz at November 21, 2011 11:05 AM (faaIy)
Lauding any civilian deaths is NOT a Conservative value.
Posted by: DaveA at November 21, 2011 11:08 AM (u70JJ)
Posted by: bannor, voting for NotRomney at November 21, 2011 11:19 AM (6AXh/)
"Some people draw parallels to the Arab Spring, Tahrir Square in Cairo and the streets of Daraa and Homs, to the Occupy movement. "
Hmmm... what about the Iranian peoples' attempt at an uprising a few years ago, and Barack's non-support? The iconic sho was a Christian girl dead with blood dripping out of her mouth.
Guess it was OK in Barry's book... she was Christian... as are the many dead Copts in Egypt.
Posted by: john b at November 21, 2011 11:26 AM (fJ3r3)
Posted by: Chuckit at November 21, 2011 11:28 AM (qeXKj)
Posted by: Lojack at November 21, 2011 11:37 AM (s//jL)
Posted by: steevy at November 21, 2011 11:43 AM (7WJOC)
Gotta love the avoid-the-truth quotation marks. I don't know what horrifies you, but police brutality is what it is.
Thread "winner."
Posted by: FireHorse at November 21, 2011 11:45 AM (sJ0DF)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 21, 2011 11:54 AM (QcFbt)
And pepper spraying aint it.
Posted by: Sgt. York at November 21, 2011 11:59 AM (DjCQL)
Posted by: Bullshit at November 21, 2011 12:27 PM (3akB4)
May he rot in hell for all eternity!!
* * *
Joking or serious, may you be banned forthwith.
Posted by: You sonofabitch at November 21, 2011 12:40 PM (B60j2)
Posted by: White RB at November 21, 2011 12:50 PM (LrLv1)
Posted by: Village Idiot at November 21, 2011 12:51 PM (utXSy)
Posted by: stuiec at November 21, 2011 01:02 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Conall at November 21, 2011 01:04 PM (h5bza)
Posted by: Conall at November 21, 2011 05:04 PM (h5bza)
Personally, I have no problem with cops using pepper spray to force people to obey their orders to clear a public area. Beats the hell (pun intended) out of using their batons to break the Occupiers' arms to get them to unlink. Or busting their bones with fire hoses, or setting dogs on them. It's sort of why cops have pepper spray as a non-lethal tool in their arsenal.
Posted by: stuiec at November 21, 2011 01:14 PM (Di3Im)
I wouldn't equate "Allahu Akbar" in this case with Islamic fundamentalism. I'd equate it more with someone in similar circumstances in the West saying, "My God" or "Jesus Christ" as an exclamation of horror and frustration and terror.
Yes, all that -- plus an honest appeal to God.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 21, 2011 01:15 PM (sJ0DF)
Posted by: Rmoney at November 21, 2011 02:04 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: pat at November 21, 2011 02:16 PM (UFxap)
Posted by: Sharkman at November 21, 2011 02:29 PM (wMsKw)
I know one thing: This is why we have a Second Amendment, not to go deer hunting. Deer hunting is a bonus, staying free is not.
Honest question* -- Shouldn't advocates of private gun ownership invoke the fourth amendment instead of the second amendment?
I know what the 2nd amendment says, but the motivating spirit behind it is state security. "The right of the people to keep and bear arms" only exists so those arms can be used in service to the government, yes?
In contrast, the 4th amendment is driven by personal security. It seems that this is the Bill of Rights' cornerstone of freedom at the citizen's level.
(* -- Really; I'm not trying to be provocative or a dick in any way.)
Posted by: FireHorse at November 21, 2011 02:34 PM (sJ0DF)
Posted by: Tom22ndState at November 21, 2011 03:35 PM (n6FAj)
Posted by: deadrody at November 21, 2011 04:27 PM (eOvu0)
Posted by: Anon at November 21, 2011 04:56 PM (vGlQg)
" Beats the hell (pun intended) out of using their batons to break the Occupiers' arms to get them to unlink"
Hang on a sec.....MSNBC told me that the occupiers arms were locked in solidarity....perhaps if the police had asked politely?
Posted by: Dathi at November 21, 2011 05:06 PM (AqAGh)
#71 FireHorse –
Remember they had just recently cast off an authoritarian state government. Provisions for the Navy, Navy, and the individual StateÂ’s organized militias are in the body of the Constitution. The 2nd is there for the people to keep and bear arms for the security of their freedom. There are also provisions in the body presuming the legality of private ownership of ships of war too.
Posted by: Rmoney at November 21, 2011 05:33 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: Rmoney at November 21, 2011 05:34 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: yakina canutt at November 21, 2011 06:49 PM (WK8RW)
Posted by: KR1 at November 21, 2011 06:51 PM (S8VM6)
Quit watching at Mr. Shot in the Jaw.
Alah akbar makes me sick, all the time everytime.
Since I consider myself a somewhat reasonable man; yes it makes me sad to see wanton human suffering.
Posted by: nip at November 21, 2011 07:16 PM (WJPO6)
video to flash converter
Posted by: nanonu at November 21, 2011 09:38 PM (h4iu5)
Posted by: Evil Monk at November 23, 2011 11:11 PM (K5aEG)
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First. Shoosh.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 21, 2011 10:01 AM (0M3AQ)