October 27, 2011

A New Level of Hypocrisy [Truman North]
— Open Blogger

You may recall when a clean-cut Tea Party patriot brought a lawful AR-15 to an Arizona rally a couple of summers ago. The 5th columnists at MSNBC went all monkey-poop over it. The numbnutted Beltway ninnies had puppies.

In short, it was a Very Important Moment for the leftocracy, as they could demonstrate how dangerous the bitter, racist clingers of the broad center really are.

Fast-forward to this week. Same state. Another rally. This time, a whole crew of AR-15-toting, tactical-camouflage-gear-wearing, political-discourse-spewing rednecks show up. They're intimidating. Like they own the place. And they're there for the protection of the protestors against the police and other authority figures.

Practically a... militia, you might say.

Of course, the kakistocracy in academe, Washington, and the news media have been falling all over themselves to condemn this dangerous posse of radical extremists. You can't go five minutes without tripping over a blog item or newspaper article about them. Right?

Right?

Well, actually, no. You can't find this anywhere. It's been embargoed. Disappeared. Just like Stalin did it, back in the left's good old days.

If it weren't for Glenn Reynolds digging up a SayUncle story, who knows how long it would be before we got wind of this?

Published out of draft by Andy

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1 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 09:29 AM (UK9cE)

2

Jeebus, all you have to do is say you saw Sarah Palin toting a gun with them and the presstitutes would fall all over the story. Maybe Sarah should show up and talk to them?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at October 27, 2011 09:30 AM (0M3AQ)

3

Maybe they're kooks, but they're using all the right terms.  They could well be morons in good standing here, at that.


Posted by: imp at October 27, 2011 09:31 AM (UaxA0)

4 I checked their website. These are some very strange people.  I don't think they support OWS but are looking for publicity for their mad little gang.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at October 27, 2011 09:32 AM (O6qwo)

5

The 5th columnists at MSNBC went all monkey-poop over it. The numbnutted Beltway ninnies had puppies.

My personal favorite part of that was chopping the guy's head off in the framing of the pictures so that you couldn't see that the guy carrying the gun was black. 

Posted by: alexthechick at October 27, 2011 09:32 AM (VtjlW)

6 I'm arguing on with my "local" OWS in Buffalo and they suggested I be tried for treason and punished appropriately.

Posted by: Joffen at October 27, 2011 09:33 AM (zLeKL)

7 I sent this link to drudge, hopefully he links to it.

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2011 09:34 AM (wuv1c)

8 "We're out here to use ... deadly force."

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:35 AM (OhYCU)

9 Nothing can function properly, no lessons can be learned, the right people can not be held accountable, so long as we have an extremely fraudulent media.

The media is like aids where the bodies natural immune system becomes the problem.

Posted by: Shiggz undecided - weighing pros-cons-balls at October 27, 2011 09:36 AM (I9fXA)

10 If you listen to these guys they aren't lefties.  They are 2nd amendment supporters and seem to be anti-illegal immigration.  There are plenty of cases of media bias out there, but this ain't one of them.

Posted by: buzz at October 27, 2011 09:36 AM (i27M5)

11 There just hoping for an escalation so that the kiddies can get organized and figure out what they are really against.

Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 09:37 AM (rJVPU)

12 That guy is JT Ready.  Big Chicken Dinner from the Marine Corps and a Neo-Nazi. 

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 09:38 AM (01RS2)

13 You have liberals whining about what happened in Oakland who are oblivious to the fact that Oakland is run by Democrats. And the police are union. It's some sort of collective psychosis.

Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 09:39 AM (rJVPU)

14 There are plenty of cases of media bias out there, but this ain't one of them.

Posted by: buzz at October 27, 2011 01:36 PM (i27M5)



I think the point is the fact that they're "protecting" the OWS crowd and there's no mention of them in the media.  When a law abiding citizen took and displayed a weapon at a TEA Party rally, it was OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG........


Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 09:39 AM (UK9cE)

15 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 09:40 AM (8y9MW)

16 3

Maybe they're kooks, but they're using all the right terms.  They could well be morons in good standing here, at that.


Posted by: imp at October 27, 2011 01:31 PM (UaxA0)

I was thinking the same. The big guys says all the right things. But after you think about it, would any of us morons be willing to protect an occupiers sorry ass?

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 09:41 AM (8ieXv)

17 My God. OWS has a militia now!!!!

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:41 AM (OhYCU)

18 OT Drudge: "Ghadafi's killers to go to trial"

Is Obama on the lam?

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:42 AM (OhYCU)

19 There are plenty of cases of media bias out there, but this ain't one of them.

Imagine the story if this group had shown up at a TEA party rally.

That's the bias.

Posted by: wiserbud at October 27, 2011 09:42 AM (3Okgs)

20 When a law abiding citizen took and displayed a weapon at a TEA Party rally

And, IIRC, that guy wasn't even at the TEA Party rally.  He was at some other unrelated (or only tangentially related) rally which was some distance away, but happened to be in the same area.

You know, as opposed to being right in the middle of them and threatening to respond to the cops with violence.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 09:42 AM (8y9MW)

21

>>If you listen to these guys they aren't lefties. They are 2nd amendment supporters and seem to be anti-illegal immigration. There are plenty of cases of media bias out there, but this ain't one of them.

 

This is bias through omission. There are guys in full military gear with AR-15s, you don't think that's newsworthy?

It was when it happened at a Tea Party.

 

It's their right and I'm not arguing with that, but it seems like this should get  a little bit of coverage, no?

So what if the guys carrying the guns aren't 100% aligned with OWS, were the Lyndon LaRouchie's with their NAZI signs at Tea Party rallies aligned with the Tea Party? No, but it was reported as such.

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2011 09:43 AM (wuv1c)

22 So what's the deal here. Is it legal to carry a semi-automatic weapon in public down there? Was it loaded?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 09:43 AM (i6RpT)

23 Here's hoping this escalates into a confrontation in which these idiots and at least half of the OWS crowd are gunned down.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 09:44 AM (PLHIl)

24 This should be breaking news on all networks.

Where is Geraldo, Anderson Cooper, Shep?

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:44 AM (OhYCU)

25 Well Toto, looks like we're not in the Age of Aquarius anymore.

Posted by: ontherocks at October 27, 2011 09:45 AM (HBqDo)

26

This guy actually makes correct and cogent points on the conservative side, for the most part. I think the important thing to note here is that the media hasn't talked about these guys because OWS is a LEFT WING movement. By showing up at a left wing movement, these guys can practice their 2nd amendment rights and not be hounded for it.

Pretty smart move, IMO.

Posted by: ICBMMan at October 27, 2011 09:45 AM (HMGTw)

27
Yup, anything that could possibly be painted as any sort of negative for the OWS crowd will be dutifully ignored by the MSM.

If it were a Tea Party these would be insane anti-immigrant gun toting baby eating rednecks looking to shoot the first person of color they see just to watch them die.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 27, 2011 09:46 AM (Qxdfp)

28 He's a Nazi, guys.

http://tinyurl.com/27la6cj

I don't care what he says.  He doesn't speak for me.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 09:46 AM (01RS2)

29 These guys are here to prevent the police from forcing the crowd to disperse.  That's it.  If the cops show up and start asking people to leave, these guys will begin to threaten and ramp up tensions.

This is getting really bad, over something so unbelievably stupid.


Socialism sucks.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 09:47 AM (UK9cE)

30
24 Where is Geraldo, Anderson Cooper, Shep?


Geraldo is fapping in front of a mirror.

Cooper and Shep are watching.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 27, 2011 09:47 AM (Qxdfp)

31 Uh, are these guys actually WITH OWS? They may just be occupying roughly the same general territory but not actually represent them. Because your average hippy just doesn't know what to do with an AR.

Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at October 27, 2011 09:48 AM (RD7QR)

32
28

Thought he looked familiar.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 27, 2011 09:48 AM (Qxdfp)

33

Don't get me wrong - the media wouldn't hesitate for a second to use non-conservative Tea Party attendees to trash the Tea Party.   (as an example, Mr. Communist Manifesto who flew his plane into the buidling was built up as some sort of conservative.)  And I know they would bury this story even if the gun-toters were undeniably liberal.

But I'm saying in this instance, it's not really fair to tie these guys to OWS. 

Posted by: buzz at October 27, 2011 09:48 AM (i27M5)

34 Now the connection between this militia group and OWS. JT Ready is a jew-hater.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at October 27, 2011 09:48 AM (O6qwo)

35 I work my fingers to the bone everyday, and this is what I get for it !

Posted by: NYC Occupy Kitchen Staff at October 27, 2011 09:49 AM (V92KK)

36

I wonder why Occupy Phoenix hasn't kicked these guys out?  You know, since all the Occupy events are supposed to be "non-violent."

Of course, the fact that these guys have guns and look like they're quite capable of using them might have something to do with it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 09:49 AM (4df7R)

37
24 Where is Geraldo, Anderson Cooper, Shemp?



Where have all the flowers gone?
Long time passing.

(Shemp?)

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 09:49 AM (sqkOB)

38 uproared!

Posted by: Tallahassee at October 27, 2011 09:49 AM (GvYeG)

39 OT: The Ken Jennings thing in the side-bar: He's either the stupidest smart man in the world, or that's parody.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 09:49 AM (8y9MW)

40 Nazis support OWS.

This guy is a Nazi.

Shout this upon the land.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:49 AM (OhYCU)

41

But I'm saying in this instance, it's not really fair to tie these guys to OWS. 

Posted by: buzz at October 27, 2011 01:48 PM (i27M5)

Well, hasn't the American Nazi Party joined the OWS movement? And these guys are Nazis apparently.

Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 09:49 AM (LD21B)

42 28 He's a Nazi, guys. http://tinyurl.com/27la6cj I don't care what he says. He doesn't speak for me. Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 01:46 PM (01RS2) Okay, that's good to know. Now what are the odds that they will actually open fire on cops?

Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at October 27, 2011 09:50 AM (RD7QR)

43 Also, are these guys in Sheriff Dupshit's district?

Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 09:50 AM (LD21B)

44
Are they real vets or fake vets?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 09:50 AM (sqkOB)

45 knee jerk reaction post they are not lefties and if you watch the vid and listen to what the guy says you'd know that.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid at October 27, 2011 09:51 AM (SH3gZ)

Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 09:51 AM (UK9cE)

47 I hate Arizona Nazis.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 09:51 AM (PLHIl)

48 I seriously doubt these fucks are going to draw down on Phoenix PD when the order is given to vacate the protesters. 

Posted by: EC at October 27, 2011 09:51 AM (GQ8sn)

49 28 He's a Nazi, guys.

http://tinyurl.com/27la6cj

I don't care what he says.  He doesn't speak for me.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 01:46 PM (01RS2)

Now we see the biggots inherent in the lefty system.

Birds of a feather and all that...

 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 09:51 AM (8ieXv)

50 Someone needs to ask him a few questions about Israel

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:51 AM (OhYCU)

51
AR-15's to protect...

the drummers?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 09:52 AM (sqkOB)

52 knee jerk reaction post

they are not lefties and if you watch the vid and listen to what the guy says you'd know that.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid at October 27, 2011 01:51 PM (SH3gZ)



Follow my link at 46.

He's not my friend.  Nazi's are LEFT WING.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 09:52 AM (UK9cE)

53 Now what are the odds that they will actually open fire on cops?

Too high.  I'm not even police/military, and I know that you do not present your weapon unless you are intending (not just willing) to use it.  If they're there with their ARs loaded and making it known that they're there to "protect" the occupiers from the police- they're more than just "willing" to use them.

I think they're spoiling for a fight.  I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 09:52 AM (8y9MW)

54 Congratulations to Andy for getting out of the draft.

Posted by: Valiant at October 27, 2011 09:52 AM (aFxlY)

55 42

Well, he got a Bad Conduct Discharge from the Marines, he's a Nazi, and he's a loon, so I wouldn't rule it out.  But... he also seems to be a lot of bluster and BS.  I think he's more into seeming like a badass than actually being one.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 09:53 AM (01RS2)

56 Are they real vets or fake vets?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 01:50 PM (sqkOB)


it's a mix of both

Posted by: The Dude at October 27, 2011 09:53 AM (M8yfa)

57 Socialism sucks. Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 01:47 PM (UK9cE) Not if your in the Politburo

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 09:53 AM (i6RpT)

58 Nazis in Arizona ... who knew ...

Posted by: Tallahassee at October 27, 2011 09:53 AM (GvYeG)

59 It's just a spontaneous grass roots movement!!!  LOL

Posted by: Tom at October 27, 2011 09:53 AM (bgzAd)

60 45 ok ignore my knee jerk comment....if i had read the other comments i'd have known they were nazi's.......carry on...........

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid at October 27, 2011 09:53 AM (SH3gZ)

61 46,

J.T. (Jason Todd) Ready, a former member of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, specializes in bashing immigrants. After being court-martialed twice, Ready was discharged from the Marines for bad conduct in 1996.

Ready, who has run for various Arizona offices usually without success, advocates for the placement of landmines on the border and rails against Jews and nonwhites.

In June 2010, Ready led a group of armed extremists into the Arizona desert to apprehend immigrants and drug smugglers.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:53 AM (OhYCU)

62 39 OT: The Ken Jennings thing in the side-bar: He's either the stupidest smart man in the world, or that's parody.

It's his own parody.  If you go to his blog and then over to his forum, you'll see that he made that pic as a joke upon himself.  He doesn't say he did it to mock the protesters. 

However...

If you read his FAQ about his life up to and post Jeopardy!, you'll find the answer to the very last question....fitting and amusing.

Posted by: EC at October 27, 2011 09:54 AM (GQ8sn)

63 22 So what's the deal here. Is it legal to carry a semi-automatic weapon in public down there? Was it loaded?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 01:43 PM (i6RpT)


What good is an unloaded weapon?

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 27, 2011 09:54 AM (6IReR)

64 not going to end well, all it takes is one screw up by either side and we'll have a body count

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 27, 2011 09:54 AM (FIDMq)

65 I think they're spoiling for a fight.  I hope I'm wrong. Not me. This is a good opportunity to pop a few pimples on America's Ass.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 09:55 AM (vzFJV)

66 In 1996, while serving in the Marine Corps as a lance corporal, Ready was court-martialed twice. The first time, after being absent for eight days without authorization, he was convicted of unauthorized absence, failing to follow an order or regulation, and larceny and wrongful appropriation. He was convicted, demoted to private and jailed for three months. Later that year, Ready was court-martialed again for conspiracy, assault, and wrongful solicitation and advice. He was found guilty, spent six months in detention, and was discharged from the Marine Corps for bad conduct.


Loser.......

Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 09:55 AM (UK9cE)

67 “The jew [sic] itself knows it is a parasite. I have had them admit as much to me and laugh in my face… But a parasite cannot carry on in its parasitic nature if it is exposed for what it really is. Their whole house of cards comes tumbling down for all to see. Like in 1933 Germany. Just because it has two legs, does not change its nature any less than a six-legged parasite stops sucking blood. There have been many pogroms when the host people stops being victims of these vampires. Another pogrom is approaching.”
— [JT's ] New Saxon blog posting, May 8, 2010

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 09:55 AM (OhYCU)

68
Who will protect the drummers?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 09:55 AM (sqkOB)

69 Neo-Nazis hanging out with the OWS loons. Another story for the MFM to ignore.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2011 09:56 AM (1Jaio)

70
Sounds like a mix between Alvin Greene and Jared Loughner.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 09:57 AM (sqkOB)

71 6 I'm arguing on with my "local" OWS in Buffalo and they suggested I be tried for treason and punished appropriately.

Posted by: Joffen at October 27, 2011 01:33 PM (zLeKL)

Can't wait till the snow starts here. We'll see how serious those roaches really are.

Posted by: Pyrocles at October 27, 2011 09:57 AM (cv5Iw)

72 The former intelligence chief to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi was seriously injured Tuesday while in the custody of the National Transitional Council, fueling concerns about the treatment of loyalists to the deposed government. The cause of Abuzed Omar Dorda’s injuries are disputed, but a relative of Dorda, a one-time U.N. envoy, has appealed to U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and the Security Council president to intercede with Libyan authorities to protect the former official, saying he had been the target of an assassination attempt by his jailers. The U.N.’s special representative to Libya, Ian Martin, has instructed his staff to look into the claim. “Mr. Dorda survived a murder attempt last night, 25 October, 2011, at the hands of his guards in the building where he was arrested,” Adel Khalifa Dorda, a nephew and son-in-law of the Gaddafi loyalist, wrote on behalf of the Dorda family. “He was thrown off the second floor leading to several broken bones and other serious injuries.” OOps, well accidents will happen. Kinda reminds me of when Hamas took over Gaza and was practicing midget tossing with all them fatah members from the roofs of buildings?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 09:57 AM (i6RpT)

73 70

Yup.  Nazi's with AR's are no big deal at OWS.  Don't want to hurt the narrative, you know.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 09:58 AM (01RS2)

74
  Crap, 5 mins of Google reveals J T Ready as a neo Nazi. Y'all need to stay well away from this shithead.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 27, 2011 09:58 AM (SAMxH)

75

So now we have TWO reasons why the media isn't reporting these guys:

1) They have guns, and guns = BAD

2) At least one is a neo-Nazi, and it's bad optics to remind people that the Occupy (bowel) movement is supported by professional Nazis.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 09:58 AM (4df7R)

76

What do they think I am, a slave or something ?

I have to do all the work here, and then the bums want to share the fruit of my labor without contributing.  That isn't right.

Posted by: NYC Occupy Kitchen Staff at October 27, 2011 09:58 AM (V92KK)

77

67-68 big time loser ...

Posted by: Tallahassee at October 27, 2011 09:59 AM (GvYeG)

78 Haha check out Drudge right now.  Is that really Time magazine promoting Hillary 'everest' Clinton as the definition of 'Smart Power'??  These are the most inept morons to ever occupy the whitehouse.  What a joke

Hillary never did anything to qualify her for Sec of state job anyway, other than laying on her back for bill once a year.  Seriously, what the hell?

Posted by: Governor Moon Beaner at October 27, 2011 09:59 AM (bcmD0)

79 Did those f*ckwits in OWS Atlanta really try to levitate the Georgia-Pacific building wif dey minds?  Why isn't that a thread?  Comedy gold!

Posted by: hughie at October 27, 2011 09:59 AM (+56Bh)

80 First, the flag patch on JT's cap is backwards ... why? He can't NOT know this. Then:---->>  12 "That guy is JT Ready. Big Chicken Dinner from the Marine Corps and a Neo-Nazi." <----

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 01:38 PM (01RS2)

 

Looks like JT & Friends are problems ... itching to happen ...

Posted by: Arbalest at October 27, 2011 09:59 AM (9zLsS)

81
What happens when you jam 10lbs of ignorance and stupidity into a 2lb bag?

Bad things. Very bad things.


Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:00 AM (sqkOB)

82 So what's the deal here. Is it legal to carry a semi-automatic weapon in public down there? Was it loaded?

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 01:43 PM (i6RpT)


It's AZ, guys ... open carry of pretty much anything (though I haven't seen many folks walkin around with AR's too much.  I certainly never take a long gun to the market, for example).


My take on this is that these guys aren't necessarily down with the OWS per se, but are also the type of guys who are a little too keen on conflict.  We got a lot of them.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 27, 2011 10:00 AM (qiOph)

83 If Ready thinks he can win in a shootout against the cops, he's really gone off the deep end. I mean, way deeper than he already was, anyway.

Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 10:01 AM (LD21B)

84 Hillary never did anything to qualify her for Sec of state job anyway, other than laying on her back for bill once a year bearing Chelsea.  Seriously, what the hell?

Posted by: Governor Moon Beaner at October 27, 2011 01:59 PM (bcmD0)



corrected.....

Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 10:01 AM (UK9cE)

85
Implosion is imminent.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:02 AM (sqkOB)

86 When they open fire on the cops, Zero will say the cops acted stupidly. He oughta know, he and stupid are asshole buddies.

Posted by: Do I know you? at October 27, 2011 10:02 AM (OlN4e)

87
  Just watch, if someone gets whacked at an OWS protest, the gun-grabbers will explode.

  I'll bet a bunch it's coming soon.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 27, 2011 10:03 AM (SAMxH)

88

53 This.

Not every person who "supports" the 1st and 2nd is a "good guy" -- or at least not everyone who says the correct talking points in regards to these is.  At any rate, it would be a plus in their eyes to see the 2nd overturned so that only the "proper people" were allowed to possess firearms (and they would work towards that just as assuredly as any hippie).  Same goes for the 1st -- only the "proper people" as defined by them.

Not all lefties are hippies and hipsters, not all of them are commies -- but they are all enemies of America, and it is a mistake to think that they aren't just because they appear (emphasis on "appear") to have some similar beliefs to those who would uphold the Constitution (good work on the part of the interviewer to hand him a copy, and to bring up the Oath Keepers -- did you notice this JT's reaction to both? -- mark it well).

Posted by: you know at October 27, 2011 10:04 AM (yN6cl)

89 I was wondering if they were airsoft guns. Given this guy's M.O. as a heroic anti-Zionist crusader, though, I'm fairly certain they're not.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at October 27, 2011 10:05 AM (HZFYE)

90 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Mainframe at October 27, 2011 10:05 AM (Bq6l8)

91 When the dookey hits the windmill, I hope all our opponents are Mikey Moore clones and 100 pounds of lard dragging their fat asses down.

Posted by: Do I know you? at October 27, 2011 10:05 AM (OlN4e)

92 Not all lefties are hippies and hipsters, not all of them are commies -- but they are all enemies of America -- you speak of Alex Jones. I think JT might be a fan.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at October 27, 2011 10:06 AM (HZFYE)

93 Easy solution- SWAT snipers with .308's.

Ever see a cantaloupe hit with a .308 lapua?

I would like to see some collateral damage to the mob as well.

:popcorn

Posted by: Your Papers Please at October 27, 2011 10:06 AM (EL+OC)

94 Let's all do our part and support this OWS movement.

Posted by: Joffen at October 27, 2011 10:07 AM (zLeKL)

95 I can write the headline for you guys...

MSM: Republican crashes OWS with Machine Guns

3.2.1...

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 10:07 AM (OhYCU)

96 It appears their semi-military organization does not have a Weight Control Program. Therefore, they are nothing but a rabble which could never stand against the Greyhounds of the US Military who would roll over them if enticed with tasty treats.

Posted by: Mr Discipline at October 27, 2011 10:08 AM (bGgEi)

97 Big Chicken Dinner Doesn't that require at least a Special Court, and is the equivalent of a felony conviction?

Posted by: pko STRANY at October 27, 2011 10:08 AM (RJOgX)

98
btw, this is why None of Us should go to these protests.

Not as observers, not as counter-protesters.

STAW AWAY.

Let the radicals do their thing. The whole world is watching, as they like to say.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:09 AM (sqkOB)

99 Hillary never did anything to qualify her for Sec of state job anyway, other than laying on her back for bill once a year bearing Chelsea.

Huma, let's play siege of Constantinople tonight!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 27, 2011 10:10 AM (FkKjr)

100 Hillary never did anything to qualify her for Sec of state job anyway, other than laying on her back for Web Hubbell bill once a year bearing Chelsea.  Seriously, what the hell?


corrected.....corrected.....

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 27, 2011 10:10 AM (tf9Ne)

101

OWS now has $500K, so they're officially in the 1%.

No word yet on when Occupy OWS is going to begin.

Posted by: Roy at October 27, 2011 10:10 AM (VndSC)

102
btw II,

I am pleasantly surprised by the fact that there hasn't been any counter-protests, so far. Or almost none.

It would be counter-productive. It is, in a word, a trap.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:11 AM (sqkOB)

103 Jeebus, some of you assholes find a "nazi" under every rock you look under. being anti-immigrant is not proof of NS sympathies. neither is seeing the global banking cartel for what it is.

casting the "nazi" stone is the same empty-headed slur as the over-present "racist!" slur. I thought this place was better than that................

Posted by: Vergeltung at October 27, 2011 10:13 AM (jttPx)

104 Yeah, I said it the other day. The Demo-commies are going to be sorry they started this OWS shit. The press will try to hide it but they can't hide this shit like they used to when they owned all the media.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 10:13 AM (YdQQY)

105 I hope some of them get a little stay in the Maricopa County jail

A day in Sheriff Joe Arpaio's facilities is like a month anywhere else

But then again, they might LIKE pink underwear

Posted by: kbdabear at October 27, 2011 10:14 AM (Y+DPZ)

106
...neither is seeing the global banking cartel for what it is.

Good point...

Nazi.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:14 AM (sqkOB)

107 Let the radicals do their thing. The whole world is watching, as they like to say.

You're def right on this point, sooth. I made this mistake a few weeks back.  I had no business going down there. It was a bonehead move on my part.

I say let them hang (or shoot) themselves.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2011 10:14 AM (OZfNl)

108 101 Big Chicken Dinner

Doesn't that require at least a Special Court, and is the equivalent of a felony conviction?

He was Court Martialed a couple of times.  A Court Martial is roughly the same as a felony case.  Office Hours are the equivalent of a misdemeanor.

The BCD is simply the Marines way of encouraging you to seek employment opportunities elsewhere - either in the fast food business or apparently the local left-wing militia movement.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:14 AM (01RS2)

109 casting the "nazi" stone is the same empty-headed slur as the over-present "racist!" slur. I thought this place was better than that................ Posted by: Vergeltung at October 27, 2011 02:13 PM (jttPx) You're kidding, right? The guy was with the National Socialist Movement. That's nazi, straight up, no chaser.

Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at October 27, 2011 10:14 AM (RD7QR)

110 107, you missed the membership in the Nazi Party.  I know, in the Obama Era, it would be a stretch to call him a Nazi after that.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 10:16 AM (OhYCU)

111
I made this mistake a few weeks back.

I remember you mentioned it. But that was when this this monster was young. We now see what it is becoming.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:16 AM (sqkOB)

112 I am pleasantly surprised by the fact that there hasn't been any counter-protests, so far. Or almost none.

It's called Occupy Cubicle. We are all doing that, because someone has to pony up and pay for all that free shit and clean-up/trash removal service.

Posted by: Roy at October 27, 2011 10:16 AM (VndSC)

113

Doesn't that require at least a Special Court, and is the equivalent of a felony conviction?

Exactly right.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:17 AM (sbV1u)

114 Jeebus, some of you assholes find a "nazi" under every rock you look under. being anti-immigrant is not proof of NS sympathies. neither is seeing the global banking cartel for what it is.

casting the "nazi" stone is the same empty-headed slur as the over-present "racist!" slur. I thought this place was better than that................

Posted by: Vergeltung at October 27, 2011 02:13 PM (jttPx)



Follow some links posted in the comments, doofus.  He was a NEO NAZI.


Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 10:17 AM (UK9cE)

115
We were all talking about making counter-signs and stuff.

But a month ago we didn't know what we know now.

The shit, it is real.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:17 AM (sqkOB)

116 106
btw II,

I am pleasantly surprised by the fact that there hasn't been any counter-protests, so far. Or almost none.

It would be counter-productive. It is, in a word, a trap.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:11 PM (sqkOB)

They counter-protest themselves...its amazing and effective.

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 10:18 AM (8ieXv)

117

You can get a bad conduct, or a bad conduct special.

The special is a General court.  He may only have gotten the BCD, not the BCD Special.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:18 AM (sbV1u)

118

>>>I am pleasantly surprised by the fact that there hasn't been any counter-protests, so far. Or almost none.It would be counter-productive. It is, in a word, a trap.

 

The Tea Party has been making smart decisions since Admiral Ackbar took over.

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2011 10:18 AM (wuv1c)

119

Semi-OT, but THIS is just incredible.  The hypocrisy!

IRAN Wants UN to Investigate AMERICAN Police Response to Occupy Wall Street

Frigging IRAN!  The link is to Weasel Zippers, which helpfully included a picture of some of the LESS violent ways Iran deals with its OWN protesters.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 10:18 AM (4df7R)

120 pls disregard my post 107. I did exactly what I accused some of, only the other way around. apparently there is a long trail of this guys' thoughts on the webz.

my sincere apologies.

Posted by: Vergeltung at October 27, 2011 10:18 AM (jttPx)

Posted by: fozzy at October 27, 2011 10:19 AM (FEzSe)

122 124

Apology accepted.  Glad you're not a Nazi.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:19 AM (01RS2)

123

Armed Nazis defending OWS.  HAHAHAHA!

I so hope FOX runs with this.

Posted by: moemo at October 27, 2011 10:19 AM (cey9b)

124
My god, it's full of Nazis.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:20 AM (sqkOB)

125 pls disregard my post 107. I did exactly what I accused some of, only the other way around. apparently there is a long trail of this guys' thoughts on the webz.

my sincere apologies.

Posted by: Vergeltung at October 27, 2011 02:18 PM (jttPx)



Good.  Just don't let it happen again!!!



Posted by: © Sponge at October 27, 2011 10:20 AM (UK9cE)

126 Semi-OT, but THIS is just incredible.  The hypocrisy!

I'm thinking the Iranians got an old copy of the TASS handbook. The Soviets used to do this all the time.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 27, 2011 10:20 AM (bjRNS)

127 @ 97 .308 Winchester .338 or .300 Lapua Magnum

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 10:20 AM (l9zgN)

128
For now our best course of action is Point & Laugh.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:20 AM (sqkOB)

129 131 @ 97

.308 Winchester

.338 or .300 Lapua Magnum

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2011 02:20 PM (l9zgN)

Doh! Thanks.


Posted by: Your Papers Please at October 27, 2011 10:21 AM (EL+OC)

130 But that was when this this monster was young.

Yeah, there was no violence. Just dumbassery. There's no talking sense into people like that.

I did talk to one kid for an extended period of time. He claimed to be an independent (he wasn't). He instantly popped off with easily refuted liberal talking points which I shot down. He said a lot of "are you sure that's right?" and "I didn't know about that" to certain economic points I brought up. He was an agnostic but was raised Jewish and I told him he might want to go to youtube and look at some of the anti-Semitic comments that were said in NYC (even in the early stages those elements were there).

I felt really bad for the kid. He had a cleft palate and you could tell he'd gone through extensive surgery in his life. He was very soft spoken and very polite. I don't think he's really even a liberal. I think he just has been told that they were the party of caring or something so he glommed onto the people that will speak for him. I gently tried to tell him that people are pawns to progressives. They're all expendable. That's how we ended our conversation.

I guess the day wasn't all bad as I wondered if he went back and looked up anything we discussed.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2011 10:23 AM (OZfNl)

131
Nood post

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:23 AM (sqkOB)

132 I plan on going to Buffalo next week to see this crap live and in color. Don't you want to be a part of history? Ha!

Posted by: Joffen at October 27, 2011 10:23 AM (zLeKL)

133 For now our best course of action is Point & Laugh.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:20 PM (sqkOB)

And oh, we do.   Do we ever.

Frankly, we don't need to counter protest.  They're doing it to themselves.  The Drummers vs. "The Man."  The Kitchen Workers vs. The Ex-Cons.  The Would-Be Rapists vs. The People Who Don't Want To be Raped.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 10:23 AM (4df7R)

134 Kooks.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 27, 2011 10:24 AM (f9c2L)

135


Ah, didn't see the Nazi part from the video.  Goes to show you that even teh kooks are getting media savvy.

Fuck him, then, he belongs with teh stinky commies.


Posted by: imp at October 27, 2011 10:24 AM (UaxA0)

136 The Would-Be Rapists vs. The People Who Don't Want To be Raped. I'm such an asshole for laughing at that one.

Posted by: Joffen at October 27, 2011 10:25 AM (zLeKL)

137
The Left preys on the young and stupid.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:25 AM (sqkOB)

138

The Phoenix Occutards have got their own militia protection?

Shit. Now all the Occutards will want some.

It will be real interesting to see how this develops....or if it does at all.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 27, 2011 10:25 AM (esyI3)

139 143 But are they wearing kilts ?????

Posted by: Tallahassee at October 27, 2011 10:27 AM (GvYeG)

140 Maybe a Phoenix moron can video this guy.  Ask him a few Jew questions.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 10:28 AM (OhYCU)

141

From the AZ Republic back in 2008:

"Ready has been a vocal and highly visible figure among Arizonans opposed to illegal immigration. Flake co-sponsored immigration reform legislation that failed last year in Congress.

Ready said immigration is the real reason the congressmen are calling for his ouster.

"It just shows that the same open-border lobby, they're showing their hand," Ready told The Republic. "They've sold out to the Zionists and the international bankers." "

When talking about "they", he's talking about Jeff Flake and other AZ Republicans who called for him to be removed from office.  This should be a huge story.  The Neo-Nazi, anti-Jew "Zionist bankers", socialist thugs are out with weapons protecting their Zionist banker hating OWS brethren.  JT Ready is scum who uses what is convenient from the Constitution to try and validate his right to be a militant racist Mexican and Jew hater.  He's one of those weird mixes of Left (anti-Zionism/hate the rich), Right (2nd Ammendment rights) and Paulnut (fiat money).



Posted by: MostlyRight at October 27, 2011 10:28 AM (ZG8Ti)

142 OccuNazis

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 10:28 AM (OhYCU)

143 small tip to amateur videographer - your entire shot does not need to be zoomed into the dude's face. Just an FYI

Posted by: deadrody at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (eOvu0)

144 There is the difference between Malitia and wann-bees. The existing well armed well trained malitias take great pains not to expose themselves. This asshat and his merry band of losers just wants attention. They may get the wrong kind.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (ZDUD4)

145 >>my sincere apologies.
Posted by: Vergeltung at October 27, 2011 02:18 PM (jttPx)

.......we don't do sincere apologies here dude. Pour a little snark on it, light it on fire, and we'll take a look at it.

Posted by: ontherocks at October 27, 2011 10:31 AM (HBqDo)

146 149, sorry, Militia.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 27, 2011 10:31 AM (ZDUD4)

147 omg I cannot handle listening to more than 5 seconds of those two mumbling idiots.

Posted by: deadrody at October 27, 2011 10:32 AM (eOvu0)

148 What do you expect from the "Reichstag Media"  Extermination camp, gulag, does not matter what you call it.   It is still the same.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 27, 2011 10:36 AM (mwEw5)

149

Ready said immigration is the real reason the congressmen are calling for his ouster.

"It just shows that the same open-border lobby, they're showing their hand," Ready told The Republic. "They've sold out to the Zionists and the international bankers."

Fucking Nazi. And isn't it illegal for someone with a BCD/dishonorable discharge to buy or possess a firearm? The dishonorable discharge question comes up when I fill out the paperwork when I buy a gun, so I assumed non-hanging lowlife dirtbags like Ready couldn't own one.

I hope Democratic Party leadership's plan to embrace and identify with these OWS protests exceeds their wildest expectations. Nazis, communists, and anarchists all coming together as one. Kinda makes me feel all warm and glowy inside.

 

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 10:36 AM (vtiE6)

150 The key thing is that it's a felony conviction. So he can't legally carry a firearm. Maybe he's pulling a Dog and has a paint-ball gun. Or, as somebody mentioned earlier, am Airsoft.

Posted by: pko STRANY at October 27, 2011 10:36 AM (RJOgX)

151 that fat fuck looks like he's trained to eat cheeseburgers and terrorize the hot pocket section of walmart.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 10:38 AM (x3YFz)

152 157 The key thing is that it's a felony conviction. So he can't legally carry a firearm. Maybe he's pulling a Dog and has a paint-ball gun. Or, as somebody mentioned earlier, am Airsoft.

Posted by: pko STRANY at October 27, 2011 02:36 PM (RJOgX)

I smell airsoft.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 10:38 AM (x3YFz)

153

Airsoft.

That would be a great way to get yourself killed by mistake.

Ever notice that the amount of military gear one wears as a civilian is directly proportional to one's wannabe index?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:39 AM (sbV1u)

154 All of these so-called "vets" are joining the OWS people?  I guess when they signed up for the military  they did not know there is/are wars going on?

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 27, 2011 10:39 AM (mwEw5)

155 These guys are neutral. They don't support OWS any more or less than anyone else. They are SUPPORTING first and second amendment rights. They want to make sure that the protesters are allowed to exercise their 1st without being stomped on by jack booted cops with a chip and that they would ensure the 1st for the protesters by using their 2nd to defend the rights of others. In other words.. One does not have to like what is being said, but you better damn well support their right to say it.

Posted by: UGrev at October 27, 2011 10:40 AM (yBuLL)

156 160

The wannabe index is off the chart on this guy.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:40 AM (01RS2)

157 162

You may want to read through the comments before you stake yourself out on that hill to die on.  The guy is a Nazi.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:41 AM (01RS2)

158 jack booted cops ... aight!

Posted by: Tallahassee at October 27, 2011 10:44 AM (GvYeG)

159

These guys are neutral.

No they're not.  They're Nazis.  Period.  Which means everything that comes out of their mouths is shit, even if they begin to sound like they have a sliver of a morsel of a clue.

This has nothing to do with OWS.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:44 AM (sbV1u)

160 The guy in the photo is JT Ready, who's a Nazi, and not in the SPLC/Dave Neiwert "Nazi" sense of "once didn't vote for a Democrat". Here he is in a Nazi uniform at a march: http://tinyurl.com/3n3qpkr

Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at October 27, 2011 10:45 AM (XZWie)

161 164

I'll save you the trouble.  Go to 125 and click on the picture.  There's a big yellow arrow pointing at JT.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:45 AM (01RS2)

162 This has nothing to do with OWS.

Except that Nazi's have endorsed OWS, he is a Nazi, and he is at OWS, and is prepared to use "deadly force".  Other than that, I don't see it either.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 10:46 AM (OhYCU)

163 No DRUDGE on this yet. Very disappointing.

Posted by: Your Papers Please at October 27, 2011 10:47 AM (EL+OC)

164

Other than that, I don't see it either.

You could have a point.

But I think he's using this more as a publicity stunt to get his "brand" recognition up. 

Which, if I am right, would mean this has nothing to do with OWS.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:48 AM (sbV1u)

165 Does this mean that we can finally put to rest the lie that Nazi's are right wingers?

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:48 AM (01RS2)

166 163 160

The wannabe index is off the chart on this guy.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 02:40 PM (01RS2)

He probably spent 4x the amount on gear at cheaperthandirt than he did at Denney's!

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 10:49 AM (x3YFz)

167

He probably spent 4x the amount on gear at cheaperthandirt than he did at Denney's!

Oh, I dunno.  I think his Grand Slam Breakfast consumption is off the charts.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:50 AM (sbV1u)

168 Aight!

Posted by: Tallahassee Jackenbootenstein at October 27, 2011 10:51 AM (GvYeG)

169 173

I don't know.  That's gotta be a toss-up.  He looks like he's no stranger to the buffet line.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:51 AM (01RS2)

170 162 These guys are neutral. They don't support OWS any more or less than anyone else. They are SUPPORTING first and second amendment rights. They want to make sure that the protesters are allowed to exercise their 1st without being stomped on by jack booted cops with a chip and that they would ensure the 1st for the protesters by using their 2nd to defend the rights of others.

In other words.. One does not have to like what is being said, but you better damn well support their right to say it.

Posted by: UGrev at October 27, 2011 02:40 PM (yBuLL)

Uuuuum?? Because the "jack booted cops" have been "stomping" the occupiers since all this nonsense started?

FYI, this asshole Nazi pig is just looking for PR. If you read the history on him you would possibly see that. Good ole JT...could'nt give a rats ass about those hippies. He's look for a few weak-minded recruits to do his bidding for him as he is too much of a punk with too many strikes on his rap sheet ot want to go back to jail. Wake up dude/ette.

  

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 10:52 AM (8ieXv)

171 176173

I don't know. That's gotta be a toss-up. He looks like he's no stranger to the buffet line.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 02:51 PM (01RS2)

You been here 4 hour, you go now!

Posted by: Buffet line chef at October 27, 2011 10:53 AM (FIDMq)

172 I wonder how much time he spent in the pork chop platoon in boot camp?  It doesn't look like it did him much good.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:53 AM (01RS2)

173 176 173

I don't know.  That's gotta be a toss-up.  He looks like he's no stranger to the buffet line.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 02:51 PM (01RS2)

so you're saying as long as he's "on duty" defending the 1st amendment with the 2d amendment of Airsoft, I should short my stock in Old Country Buffet?

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 10:54 AM (x3YFz)

174 178

No more egg roll.  We out of egg roll.  You go!

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:54 AM (01RS2)

175 You may recall when a clean-cut Tea Party patriot brought a lawful AR-15 to an AZ rally a couple of summers ago. The 5th columnists at MSNBC went all monkey-poop over it. The numbnutted Beltway ninnies had puppies.

I remember that Allahpundit wrote fervently against such provocative and uncivilized public display of firearms at political rallies (New Hampshire white dude with a holstered open carry firearm). So he almost walked that back by siding against the MSNBC fabricated propaganda. His argument wasn't in favor of open carry legitimacy, but against fabricating evidence.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 10:56 AM (lpWVn)

176

I should short my stock in Old Country Buffet?

Denny's too.

Or.....you could preserve your investment and probably make a few bucks by calling the Phoenix PD 911 line.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:56 AM (sbV1u)

177 180

I'm guessing that he'll find the time in his busy schedule to sneak off to the chow hall.  He can get Michael Moore to stand in for him while he's gone.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:56 AM (01RS2)

178 How many boxes of mac & cheese gave their lives to ensure he could defend your 1st Amendment right?

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 10:56 AM (x3YFz)

179

How many boxes of mac & cheese gave their lives to ensure he could defend your 1st Amendment right?

More like how many Double Whoppers

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 10:57 AM (sbV1u)

180

This guy is staight-up racist.

Why are my panties wet?

Posted by: Genine Garafalo at October 27, 2011 10:58 AM (8ieXv)

181

>>Ever notice that the amount of military gear one wears as a civilian is directly proportional to one's wannabe index?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 02:39 PM (sbV1u)

Does that rule of thumb apply to internet porn browsing?

... as a purely intellectual examination of course

Posted by: ontherocks at October 27, 2011 10:59 AM (HBqDo)

182 What's with the rising sun patch he's got?  is that a shout out to the local japanese restaurateur he terrorizes?

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 11:00 AM (x3YFz)

183 Not up on my MCJ and civilian criminal records rules but if he was convicted of those crimes wouldn't he be barred from having a gun?

Posted by: PugBoo TeaPug Jihadist Mastermind at October 27, 2011 11:01 AM (TJu3U)

184

Does that rule of thumb apply to internet porn browsing?

... as a purely intellectual examination of course

Further research is required.  To the man cave!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 11:01 AM (sbV1u)

185 189

It's the Arizona State flag.  I thought the same thing when I first saw it, but teh Google sorted it out for me.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:01 AM (01RS2)

186

What's with the rising sun patch he's got?  is that a shout out to the local japanese restaurateur he terrorizes?

That's the Arizona state flag.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 11:02 AM (sbV1u)

187 He's a Jew hater too.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 11:02 AM (OhYCU)

188 188

>>Ever notice that the amount of military gear one wears as a civilian is directly proportional to one's wannabe index?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 02:39 PM (sbV1u)

Does that rule of thumb apply to internet porn browsing?

... as a purely intellectual examination of course

Posted by: ontherocks at October 27, 2011 02:59 PM (HBqDo)

ffs I hope not...!

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 11:02 AM (x3YFz)

189 192

That's not to say of course that the local Japanese restauranteur's don't all quake in fear when he comes through the door.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:03 AM (01RS2)

190 193

What's with the rising sun patch he's got?  is that a shout out to the local japanese restaurateur he terrorizes?

That's the Arizona state flag.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 03:02 PM (sbV1u)

Ah, got it.  The WWII Japanese flag had the rays 360 degrees..  Just caught a glimpse of it.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 11:03 AM (x3YFz)

191 196 192

That's not to say of course that the local Japanese restauranteur's don't all quake in fear when he comes through the door.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 03:03 PM (01RS2)

could you imagine the amount of sushi???

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 11:04 AM (x3YFz)

192 189 What's with the rising sun patch he's got? is that a shout out to the local japanese restaurateur he terrorizes?

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 03:00 PM (x3YFz)

No, that was the Ho Mihn Chang buffet campaign, 6 HOURS, brutal, as the food was cold, waited forever for refills erm reinforcements

Posted by: LCpl Ready at October 27, 2011 11:05 AM (FIDMq)

193 He MUST be a vet.  He has captains bars on his right sleeve.  Bellow the flag patches.  (I know I was in during the 80's, but they CAN NOT have screwed up THAT bad!)  Maybe they call em officers stripes?!?!?!

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 27, 2011 11:05 AM (mwEw5)

194

could you imagine the amount of sushi???

Do you understand how much sulfur is contained in just one pound of sushi?

Think this through.

"Mr. Ready, we're going to have to ask you to step away from the toro in the name of the Clean Air Act of 1970."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 11:06 AM (sbV1u)

195 198

"Hey, what's that fishy smell?" 

"That's just ole J.T.  He has sushi coming out of his ass."

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:08 AM (01RS2)

196 If he has a record all that has to happen is meet him at home when he leaves for the day.  Then arrest his ass their.

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 27, 2011 11:09 AM (mwEw5)

197 Poor, poor, sushi fish.  :-(

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 27, 2011 11:10 AM (mwEw5)

198

I'd love to see the MFM meetings where they try to pretzel logic this.

They (and Morris Dees' SPLC) has been trying to conflate true Constitutional militia and nuts like these since the mid-90's.

This would be a PERFECT chance to do so but then thery're showing up in support of their OWS darlings.

They've probably all passed out from the spinning.

Posted by: Scott J at October 27, 2011 11:10 AM (/bVuS)

199 @177. That is not my assessment. It is theirs. There are cops our there that assume control over you because they wear a badge. These guys want to make sure that if there happen to be any of those types of cops among the police presence, then they would protect the protesters in they themselves started breaking the law. Please stop reading into statements like that. I never made a sweeping statement.. but you chose to see one. Other than that.. I love the video of the cop chucking a flash bang smack in the middle of some protesters trying to help an injured marine who got shot in the head with a rubber bullet. The police said they never used either of those. So now I will make my sweeping statement that it is my personal opinion that the cops in Oakland are corrupt, jack booted, thugs and should not be trusted.

Posted by: UGrev at October 27, 2011 11:11 AM (yBuLL)

200 Sorry.  I meant            "....his fat ass their"

Posted by: hous bin pharteen at October 27, 2011 11:11 AM (mwEw5)

201 Spnge, yuck.

still are we certain with that sites information? splc?

Posted by: willow at October 27, 2011 11:16 AM (h+qn8)

202

I love the video of the cop chucking a flash bang smack in the middle of some protesters trying to help an injured marine who got shot in the head with a rubber bullet. The police said they never used either of those.

I saw the same video.  It's a tear gas canister.  You can tell because it smokes a while after the detonator goes off (that's the flash).  A stun grenade or flash bang will not smoke at all.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 11:17 AM (sbV1u)

203

Arizona has an anti-militia law:

26-123. Maintenance of private troops prohibited; violation; classification

A. No person, partnership or corporation shall maintain troops under arms, but this section shall not be deemed to prohibit a business, plant or firm from maintaining armed guards for protection of their property from damage or loss, or formation of a state police or highway patrol, or the existence of county and municipal police forces and sheriff's posses.

B. Any person violating this section is guilty of a class 5 felony.

Why aren't the police enforcing it?

Posted by: Sam at October 27, 2011 11:20 AM (V9Tsq)

204 JT Ready in this video has his act together. But this isn't his first or only political activity, though activity is an integral American constitutional experience. It would have been more politically correct for the cause he's undertaking if he didn't speak in a foul manner in the past. These days, ugly talk amounts to a hate crime. Consider the source, Southern Poverty Law Center. A guy can live and learn. And note well that the same source slamming JT's own association with white supremacists unfairly smears AZ Legislature Senator Russell Pearce as if neo-Nazi among other untrue labels:

"A Friend of Neo-Nazis Drafted ArizonaÂ’s New Immigration Bill"
Sen. Pearce, a firebrand, checkered past, right-wing friends with asshole Ted Nugent! Jim Crow, quoting NYT as reference source @ the Gawker.

Don't throw away the Constitution/baby with the politically incorrect bath water.  It would seem from his PHX Occupy appearance that JT's had his Saul of Tarsus epiphany and seen the light.

re: jury nullification concerns, given judicial activism compounding evidence deemed too prejudicial for presentation in a trial, tit for tat?


Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 11:20 AM (lpWVn)

205 @209.. it was still way too close.. it still has an initial explosion and can cause minor injuries. It just wasn't necessary to do that regardless of how we feel about the losers in the OWS party. Not to mention that the man on the ground was already injured.

Posted by: UGrev at October 27, 2011 11:22 AM (yBuLL)

206 206

The Nazi's do - officially - support OWS.  These guys are Nazi's, so ergo, they support OWS.  They're not there just to keep an eye on the cops to make sure that there are no abuses inflicted on the peace loving stinky hippies, they're an active part of the movement, not bystanders.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:23 AM (01RS2)

207 There seems to be some discussion on the level of offense associated with a Special Court Martial. An SPCM can only sentence the accused to confinement for a term of not to exceed one year (the definition of a misdemeanor) , even if the same charge and specification referred to a General Court Martial could result in longer confinement (the definition of a felony). A BCD is not specified as a disqualifying event under the '68 Gun Control Act. It seems both (SPCM, BCD) are treated as equivalent to a felony conviction as a bar to firearms ownership by the ATF and FBI. IANAL, YMMV, etc, etc. etc.

Posted by: pko STRANY at October 27, 2011 11:24 AM (RJOgX)

208 211

The SPLC isn't the only source and there's plenty of pictures of JT in a Nazi uniform and/or hanging out with Nazi's at political events.  That's not something you can easily walk back.  He made that choice and now he has to live with it.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:25 AM (01RS2)

209

 it was still way too close.. it still has an initial explosion and can cause minor injuries.

I agree to a point.  The initial explosion is nothing more than a pop.  I used to handle this stuff routinely and I really do know what I am doing with it.

Having said that, you absolutely do not toss one AT people or in the middle of a group.  You toss it to the edge of the group, or depending on wind direction to the back of the group.  I got that.

But it wasn't a flash bang and everytime I see someone say that it just gets my blood up. 

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 11:26 AM (sbV1u)

210 Other than that.. I love the video of the cop chucking a flash bang smack in the middle of some protesters trying to help an injured marine who got shot in the head with a rubber bullet. The police said they never used either of those.

So now I will make my sweeping statement that it is my personal opinion that the cops in Oakland are corrupt, jack booted, thugs and should not be trusted.

Posted by: UGrev at October 27, 2011 03:11 PM (yBuLL)

Thugs or not...the cops in all U.S. cities have been incredibley restrained in dealing with these miscreants. The unfortunate incident with the Vet. was bound to happen sooner than later, its exactly what they are looking for. The MFM will characterize the police exactly as you do and just like that the occupiers are innocent victems. Remember 4 Dead in O-h-i-o??

     

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 11:30 AM (8ieXv)

211 216

A flash bang, at least the one's I'm familiar with have an extremely short fuse anyway.  It had better be in the air and on its way when the spoon releases or it'll take your hand off.

A flash bang with a long fuse isn't much good if you're trying to clear a room and the bad guys chunk it back out the door at you when you throw it in.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:31 AM (01RS2)

212 The Nazi's do - officially - support OWS.  These guys are Nazi's, so ergo, they support OWS.  They're not there just to keep an eye on the cops to make sure that there are no abuses inflicted on the peace loving stinky hippies, they're an active part of the movement, not bystanders.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 03:23 PM (01RS2)

Yeah the information is  pretty ugly.  I hate that they use things we hold dear against us, pretty much what all the left thinkers do, I guess.

Posted by: willow at October 27, 2011 11:33 AM (h+qn8)

213

@UGrev at 206, who wrote, "These guys want to make sure that if there happen to be any of those types of cops among the police presence, then they would protect the protesters in they themselves started breaking the law."

It's hard to parse what you're saying. Are you saying the Nazis are there to protect OWS protesters from bad cops (as opposed to good cops, I guess) who break the law by using flash-bangs and rubber bullets? First, I don't think it's illegal or wrong for police to employ flash-bangs or rubber bullets if escalating violence calls for an escalating response even if I agreed with the goals of a given protest.

In any event, the violence will escalate at all of these protests. Those bankrolling and organizing these Occupy gatherings desperately need dramatic soundbites and footage. More than that, they need martyrs. Someone, somewhere needs to be killed in order to lend greater significance to what would otherwise be a bunch of spoiled white kids milling around beating drums and bitching about student loans.

As an aside, it would be really cool if one of the Nazis became a martyr to the OWS movement. Imagine the fun video possibilities when his Neo-nazi stormtrooper buddies show up in full-dress uniforms at his memorial rally and sing the Horst Wessel song.

*down-twinkles* everywhere.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 11:33 AM (vtiE6)

214  Sam #210 "reset" from the top,

unless JT is legally defined an idiot/lunatic and convicted of infamous crimes, he along with nearly every adult citizen and legal resident in AZ are the militia of AZ.

26-121. Composition of militia; persons exempt

The militia of the state of Arizona consists of all able bodied citizens of the state between the ages of eighteen and forty-five years and all residents of the state between such ages who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, except:

1. Persons exempted by the laws of the state or the United States.

2. Idiots, lunatics, totally blind persons and persons convicted of infamous crimes.

3. Judges and clerks of courts of record.

4. State and county civil officers holding office by election, and members of the legislature.

5. Ministers of the gospel.


Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 11:35 AM (lpWVn)

215 219

My Great Grandpa always said to never believe anything you hear and only half of what you see.  That holds particularly true when a Nazi's lips are moving.

Actions speak louder than words, so Ole JT could be preaching the sermon on the mount, but he's still a Nazi, so screw him.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:37 AM (01RS2)

216  #217 No need to play into anyone's hand, I agree.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 11:38 AM (lpWVn)

217 221 

"Unless JT is legally defined an idiot/lunatic..."

I don't know how much it'd hold up in court, but I'm pretty sure he's an idiot.  It's part and parcel of the whole Nazi thing.  No non-idiots allowed.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 11:40 AM (01RS2)

218

*down-twinkles* everywhere.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 03:33 PM (vtiE6)

Exactly!

No offense to Ugrev but I don't think he's seeing the big picture.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 11:47 AM (8ieXv)

219

@211, who wrote, 'JT Ready in this video has his act together. But this isn't his first or only political activity, though activity is an integral American constitutional experience. It would have been more politically correct for the cause he's undertaking if he didn't speak in a foul manner in the past.

Yeah, right. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I see a fat fuck Nazi wearing faux tactical gear in a city street, the very first thing I think is, 'Man, that guy sure has his act together.' lol. Nazis are such asshats.

btw, your use of the word 'politically correct/incorrect' given the context is suspect as hell, sport. Hang out on Stormfront much? 

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 11:47 AM (vtiE6)

220 210

Arizona has an anti-militia law:

26-123. Maintenance of private troops prohibited; violation; classification

A. No person, partnership or corporation shall maintain troops under arms, but this section shall not be deemed to prohibit a business, plant or firm from maintaining armed guards for protection of their property from damage or loss, or formation of a state police or highway patrol, or the existence of county and municipal police forces and sheriff's posses.

B. Any person violating this section is guilty of a class 5 felony.

Why aren't the police enforcing it?

Posted by: Sam at October 27, 2011 03:20 PM (V9Tsq)

Too bad they don't have an anti-idiot law.  Would have precluded John McLame from taking office.  ah well.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 11:49 AM (x3YFz)

221 yeah the more i read about this JT guys and his movement, the creepier it gets.

i wonder if the twinkly kids understand the filth of it all?

Posted by: willow at October 27, 2011 11:51 AM (h+qn8)

222 218 216

A flash bang, at least the one's I'm familiar with have an extremely short fuse anyway.  It had better be in the air and on its way when the spoon releases or it'll take your hand off.

A flash bang with a long fuse isn't much good if you're trying to clear a room and the bad guys chunk it back out the door at you when you throw it in.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 03:31 PM (01RS2)

I always laugh at those 1-hour TV shows where they toss a FB in and someone says "cover your ears!"

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 11:52 AM (x3YFz)

223 bl.

Posted by: willow at October 27, 2011 11:54 AM (h+qn8)

224 @220, you're misunderstanding me. The police are NOT exempt from the law because they wear a badge. The incident where a smoke grenade was tossed into a group of people helping an injured man, regardless of our feeling towards them, is not acceptable behavior for anyone, much less an officer of the law. The "militia" in the video know that the police abuse their power in many instances and they want to make sure that the rights of the protesters are not infringed upon by a rogue cop or group of rogue cops. For the record, I do not support the OWS movement at all. They are idiots and fools; and considering the rampant irony taking place with the food, money and other events ... it's obvious that they are stuck on 12.

Posted by: UGrev at October 27, 2011 11:56 AM (yBuLL)

225 not neo just conservative

"neo-Nazi" v. NAZI Hitler's German Nationalist Party of Fascists

Do note well that today, "neo-Nazi" and "Nazi" are terms nearly always abused/misused, such as Sarah Sarandon's reference to the Nazi Pope, not the "other" one.

About the only thing one can appropriately assume about a white supremacist is that the subject is fighting for "white"-ness. White Supremacists are not necessarily National Socialist Fascists. Just as "not neo just conservative" is not necessarily a constitutional conservative or is not necessarily any other brand of conservative at face value. To determine whatever it is being conserved would require more research than blanket assumptions.

Whatever JT Ready represents at any point so far, it's his "rights". It would take more effort than I'm interested/willing to exert to research indepth the thorough chronology of JT's political evolution. Suffice it to say that he didn't fit into the Marine program, though he's been a "conservative" grassroots Republican activist (Mesa Community College, campaign for Mesa City Council), drawing unfortunate attention to what has been a juvenile absorption, even while trying to grow up.

It would be a foolish mistake to assume that everyone at the Occupy protests are stupid idiots. Watch this Vet's interview to correct any such mistake, as Will Hopkins of New Hampshire is an honorable veteran having served two tours of duty in Iraq. It has nothing to do with "white" and everything to do with demanding responsible governance.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 11:56 AM (lpWVn)

226 The "militia" in the video know that the police abuse their power in many instances and they want to make sure that the rights of the protesters are not infringed upon by a rogue cop or group of rogue cops.

For the record, I do not support the OWS movement at all. They are idiots and fools; and considering the rampant irony taking place with the food, money and other events ... it's obvious that they are stuck on 12.

Posted by: UGrev at October 27, 2011 03:56 PM (yBuLL)

Sorry UGrev, If you think for a moment that fat fuck Nazi is there because he is concerned about the occupiers, I got a bridge 15 miles from me that George Washintons ghost is very fond of but would love to sell you. This asswipe is looking for trouble...period.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 12:01 PM (8ieXv)

227 231

Why is it exactly that you feel compelled to defend these guys?  I call Occam's Razor on this.  They're there because they're Nazi's and the Nazi's support OWS.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:02 PM (01RS2)

228 232

A couple of points. 

First, it is proven beyond doubt that JT is some sort of National Socialist.  Scroll through the comments or Google it yourself.  There's no lack of information.  As a matter of fact, there's no lack of pictures of him in a Nazi uniform.

Second, I don't know Will Hopkins, but your position that he cannot be an idiot because he served in Iraq is misguided.  I served with plenty of idiots.  The military is full of them.  It's no different from any other large group of people.  I should point out that Tim McVeigh was a decorated war veteran.  Didn't make him any less of an idiot.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:07 PM (01RS2)

229 I have heard that there are idiot morons.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 12:09 PM (OhYCU)

230 Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 03:47 PM

You display your own shit for brains.

I watched the video, listening to face value. Checklist the "Tea Party" talking points...

Then, were you a fluent reader, you'd note the links I've posted (above) denouncing neo-Nazi white supremacist associations of JT Ready.

"Hang out on Stormfront much?"  Ah, yes, there it is. Sucker for affect. Look in the mirror, fascistic bastard. Try on, "Burn the Witch" while you're at it, Mr. Puritanical think you know it all. You can take your venom and eat your own asshole. It's of no concern to me. You're ironically stuck on group-think mob mentality, burning a constitutional conservative for having done research that you failed to even attempt. I consistently advocate Constitutional Rule of Law.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:11 PM (lpWVn)

231 236 I have heard that there are idiot morons.

Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 04:09 PM (OhYCU)

Idiot Mormans??

John Huntsman and Mittens hardest hit.

Oh you said idiot MORONS, yeesh I guess your right!

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 12:11 PM (8ieXv)

232 Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 04:07 PM (01RS2)

You make that judgment against Hopkins after listening to him. That's a poor reflection on you.

Do explain what it is that you conserve.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:13 PM (lpWVn)

233

@232, who wrote, "It would take more effort than I'm interested/willing to exert to research indepth the thorough chronology of JT's political evolution."

Gee, this JT Ready guy sounds really important and stuff. Your synopsis of Mr. Ready's political and spiritual journey was enthralling (and incredibly detailed, too), although lamentably brief. A shame you don't delve further and deeper into the enigma that is JT Ready.

So JT Ready 'didn't fit into the Marine Program'? The deuce you say!

And his penchant for Nazi uniforms and rallies are "what has been a juvenile absorption"? I was a teenager once and had a juvenile absorption, too. It involved a big Farah Fawcett poster on my bedroom wall. You really don't want to know more. Let's just say I grew out of it. I'm glad JT grew out of his adolescent daydreams of overthrowing the country and killing Jewish people. Growing up is hard.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 12:14 PM (vtiE6)

234 232 not neo just conservative

"neo-Nazi" v. NAZI Hitler's German Nationalist Party of Fascists

Do note well that today, "neo-Nazi" and "Nazi" are terms nearly always abused/misused, such as Sarah Sarandon's reference to the Nazi Pope, not the "other" one.

About the only thing one can appropriately assume about a white supremacist is that the subject is fighting for "white"-ness. White Supremacists are not necessarily National Socialist Fascists. Just as "not neo just conservative" is not necessarily a constitutional conservative or is not necessarily any other brand of conservative at face value. To determine whatever it is being conserved would require more research than blanket assumptions.

Whatever JT Ready represents at any point so far, it's his "rights". It would take more effort than I'm interested/willing to exert to research indepth the thorough chronology of JT's political evolution. Suffice it to say that he didn't fit into the Marine program, though he's been a "conservative" grassroots Republican activist (Mesa Community College, campaign for Mesa City Council), drawing unfortunate attention to what has been a juvenile absorption, even while trying to grow up.

It would be a foolish mistake to assume that everyone at the Occupy protests are stupid idiots. Watch this Vet's interview to correct any such mistake, as Will Hopkins of New Hampshire is an honorable veteran having served two tours of duty in Iraq. It has nothing to do with "white" and everything to do with demanding responsible governance.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 03:56 PM (lpWVn)

Bullshit.  The fact that that guy is wearing a pseudouniform is clue #1.  That means he has no argument and he's relying on some non-existent "street cred."  I watched the video, he's a dumbass. 

I served some places and did some stuff but I would NEVER use my service as a shoehorn.  Despicable fucker, this one.  just one more that proves that not everyone who has served is worth a fuck.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:17 PM (x3YFz)

235  215 That's not something you can easily walk back.  He made that choice and now he has to live with it.

  211 A guy can live and learn. It would seem from his PHX Occupy appearance that JT's had his Saul of Tarsus epiphany and seen the light.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:18 PM (lpWVn)

236 239

Gee, you sound like you're getting a little worked up.  That didn't take long...  You're also getting a little incoherent, and tiresome.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:18 PM (01RS2)

237 Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 04:17 PM (x3YFz)

MadisonConservative, is that you?

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:19 PM (lpWVn)

238 239 Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 04:07 PM (01RS2)

You make that judgment against Hopkins after listening to him. That's a poor reflection on you.

Do explain what it is that you conserve.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:13 PM (lpWVn)

Oh can I answer this one?!

(A)  Liberty

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:20 PM (x3YFz)

239 244 Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 04:17 PM (x3YFz)

MadisonConservative, is that you?

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:19 PM (lpWVn)

no, it's me.  If you'd ever posted here before you'd know that.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:20 PM (x3YFz)

240 Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 04:18 PM (01RS2)

You are unable and unwilling to explain "just conservative"?

Not rhetorical, not neo.

Someone calling YOU a fucking Nazi Stormtrooper for due diligence as a constitutional conservative?

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:22 PM (lpWVn)

241

@232

Dude, I'm sorry you're fat and bald and you have to pay for women. I'm sorry the gun you hold at protests and rallies holds nothing but little yellow Airsoft balls. I'm sorry the Marines didn't realize the awesomeness that is you, and that deep inside where it counts you're a greater strategist than Clauswitz, a finer mind that Mozart, a greater Soul than Gautama Buddha. If only people could see you as you see yourself...

Loser.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 12:23 PM (vtiE6)

242 245 239 Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 04:07 PM (01RS2)

You make that judgment against Hopkins after listening to him. That's a poor reflection on you.

Do explain what it is that you conserve.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:13 PM (lpWVn)

Oh can I answer this one?!

(A)  Liberty

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 04:20 PM (x3YFz)

No reply? Genius?

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:24 PM (x3YFz)

243  no, it's me.  If you'd ever posted here before you'd know that.

You missed the reference.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:25 PM (lpWVn)

244 250  no, it's me.  If you'd ever posted here before you'd know that.

You missed the reference.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:25 PM (lpWVn)

I don't do useless vague references to shit I don't care about.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:26 PM (x3YFz)

245

I served some places and did some stuff but I would NEVER use my service as a shoehorn.  Despicable fucker, this one.  just one more that proves that not everyone who has served is worth a fuck.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 04:17 PM (x3YFz)

THIS.   is what probably irks me the most about JT Lipshits.  I've never met a Vet. who used his service record as a prop for anything other than recruiting or charitable means. I'm not a military man, but I imagine this turd's behavior is pretty repulsive to many who have served with honor. 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 27, 2011 12:26 PM (8ieXv)

246 245

Amen brother.  I served some places and did some stuff, too.  My conservatism is based on "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."  I didn't lay that oath aside when I left the Service.

JT looks more than a little like a domestic type enemy.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:27 PM (01RS2)

247 Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 04:24 PM (x3YFz)

Does not neo need you to fill in his blank?

Since you responded, reference the link and explain why that veteran is supposed to be the schmuck that not neo just conservative smeared.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:29 PM (lpWVn)

248 253 245

Amen brother.  I served some places and did some stuff, too.  My conservatism is based on "I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."  I didn't lay that oath aside when I left the Service.

JT looks more than a little like a domestic type enemy.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 04:27 PM (01RS2)

odd thing about that oath.  After you've given it a few times... well... you know.  An oath is an oath.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:30 PM (x3YFz)

249 I don't do useless vague references to shit I don't care about.

You reminded me of MadisonConservative. Go figure.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:31 PM (lpWVn)

250 254 Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 04:24 PM (x3YFz)

Does not neo need you to fill in his blank?

Since you responded, reference the link and explain why that veteran is supposed to be the schmuck that not neo just conservative smeared.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:29 PM (lpWVn)

No need to keep reposting the same video.  You're just some stupid hippie, and have no sense of the line you've crossed.  You're done here, pretty much.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:33 PM (x3YFz)

251 256 I don't do useless vague references to shit I don't care about.

You reminded me of MadisonConservative. Go figure.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:31 PM (lpWVn)

You remind me of stupid.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:33 PM (x3YFz)

252 It would be a foolish mistake to assume that everyone at the Occupy protests are stupid idiots. Watch this Vet's interview to correct any such mistake, as Will Hopkins of New Hampshire is an honorable veteran having served two tours of duty in Iraq. It has nothing to do with "white" and everything to do with demanding responsible governance.

248 Dude, I'm sorry you're fat and bald and you have to pay for women. I'm sorry the gun you hold at protests and rallies holds nothing but little yellow Airsoft balls. I'm sorry the Marines didn't realize the awesomeness that is you, and that deep inside where it counts you're a greater strategist than Clauswitz, a finer mind that Mozart, a greater Soul than Gautama Buddha. If only people could see you as you see yourself...

Loser. Troy Riser

/...He's Army, Troy.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:36 PM (lpWVn)

253 259 It would be a foolish mistake to assume that everyone at the Occupy protests are stupid idiots. Watch this Vet's interview to correct any such mistake, as Will Hopkins of New Hampshire is an honorable veteran having served two tours of duty in Iraq. It has nothing to do with "white" and everything to do with demanding responsible governance.

248 Dude, I'm sorry you're fat and bald and you have to pay for women. I'm sorry the gun you hold at protests and rallies holds nothing but little yellow Airsoft balls. I'm sorry the Marines didn't realize the awesomeness that is you, and that deep inside where it counts you're a greater strategist than Clauswitz, a finer mind that Mozart, a greater Soul than Gautama Buddha. If only people could see you as you see yourself...

Loser. Troy Riser

/...He's Army, Troy.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:36 PM (lpWVn)

You're still stupid.  Not gonna be able to fix that on this blog this afternoon, tonight, or in the foreseeable future.  You're just fucked.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:37 PM (x3YFz)

254 257-258 Following 254, that's it: You remind me of stupid. pfft


Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:40 PM (lpWVn)

255 Tangonine and Troy,

I'm thinking that "doesn't take long" is having a hard time following the conversation.  You say something about JT and he thinks you're talking about Hopkins or whoever.  I think he's lost his train of thought.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:42 PM (01RS2)

256 didn't take long...  (is that your indian name?)


I'm not sure where you came from, you're obviously new here.  That could be some diabolical plant from the left-wing commie soros-funded army of idiocy, OR, it could be you're a long wolf dumbass, but the fact remains that you're out of your depth.

You're defending the indefensible and because you chose that fight it's a clue that you're not that bright.  As trolls go, you get a C-.  Only reason you don't get a D is your persistent, but even that wears thin.

Pack your shit and leave.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:42 PM (x3YFz)

257 Wasn't referring to Hopkins, the guy dumb enough to take a rubber bullet in the head at a ridiculous OWS protest. I was referring to the awesomeness that is JT Ready, whom you seem to know intimately well.

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 12:43 PM (vtiE6)

258 perhaps "didn't take long" is the name his mother in law gave him when he failed to create children?  Not one I'd have picked as an online nic... just saying.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:44 PM (x3YFz)

259 263 didn't take long...  (is that your indian name?)

Given to him by his wife on their wedding night, I'm thinking.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:44 PM (01RS2)

260 Given to him by his wife on their wedding night, I'm thinking. Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 04:44 PM Um, they don't have gay marraige in AZ.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 27, 2011 12:46 PM (ZDUD4)

261 264  "the awesomeness that is JT Ready"

I think that's how JT greets himself in the mirror in the morning.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:47 PM (01RS2)

262 267 Given to him by his wife on their wedding night, I'm thinking.
Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 04:44 PM

Um, they don't have gay marraige in AZ.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 27, 2011 04:46 PM (ZDUD4)

Old... lmfao... you never cease to pile on! fkn navy guys.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:47 PM (x3YFz)

263 267

So true.  I wonder how you'd go about checking to see if he bought a plane ticket for two to San Francisco.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 12:48 PM (01RS2)

264 260 No one denounces authoritarianism here more than I do.

Failing to respond with anything but "stupid" is what Gen. Honore referenced, "Don't stay stuck on stupid."

You want to elucidate why you denounce Will Hopkins, fine.

You want to detail on another's behalf what rationale not neo just conservative pronounces as worth conserving, if indeed you know him so well, fine.

Otherwise, stupid is as stupid does. You can shit all you want, it's still yours. And I'll have none of it.







Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 12:51 PM (lpWVn)

265 271 260 No one denounces authoritarianism here more than I do.

Failing to respond with anything but "stupid" is what Gen. Honore referenced, "Don't stay stuck on stupid."

You want to elucidate why you denounce Will Hopkins, fine.

You want to detail on another's behalf what rationale not neo just conservative pronounces as worth conserving, if indeed you know him so well, fine.

Otherwise, stupid is as stupid does. You can shit all you want, it's still yours. And I'll have none of it.







Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 04:51 PM (lpWVn)


I think the part you're missing is that we denounce wannabes and people that use their service to forward their personal agendas.  Those run at right angles to one another.  The fact that you don't understand that is why we're kicking you in your ass.  Because:  anyone who has served, honorably, KNOWS BETTER.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:54 PM (x3YFz)

266 @271 Why are you losing your shit defending a Nazi like JT Ready?

Posted by: fozzy at October 27, 2011 12:55 PM (FEzSe)

267 so, "didn't take long"  what branch of the military did you serve in and from when-when?  Since you're apparently so cued in to our code of conduct, tell us why you're so qualified to offer an opinion?

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 12:58 PM (x3YFz)

268 @273 Because he probably is JT or JT's lover. Only someone close to JT would know about his heart-rending personal and spiritual struggles or the transformative journey that brought him to where he is today: an all-you-can-eat sushi buffet somewhere south of Phoenix. 

Posted by: troyriser at October 27, 2011 01:00 PM (vtiE6)

269  Wait, what? OMG, run! It's a bullshit avalanche!

Posted by: spice at October 27, 2011 01:03 PM (8PqRA)

270 @didn't take long - If you still think that "JT's had his Saul of Tarsus epiphany and seen the light", go to his facebook page.  I just did and yup, he's still a nazi.

Posted by: fozzy at October 27, 2011 01:03 PM (FEzSe)

271 I was referring to the awesomeness that is JT Ready, whom you seem to know intimately well.

Evidently, you profess to know JT Ready intimately as "the awesomeness" yourself, Troy Riser.

Putting it politely, JT produced a jarring illustration spouting Tea Party rhetoric. Given JT's past effort to unsuccessfully join the Marines, and given the astroturf grassroots PAID "volunteers" whom I first pointed out here before ace's post or others commented, you'd surmise that any/all US Military Veterans who protest specific corrupt US Government policy are obviously douchebags. You'd be brain dead to call that "logic".

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 01:05 PM (lpWVn)

272 278 I was referring to the awesomeness that is JT Ready, whom you seem to know intimately well.

Evidently, you profess to know JT Ready intimately as "the awesomeness" yourself, Troy Riser.

Putting it politely, JT produced a jarring illustration spouting Tea Party rhetoric. Given JT's past effort to unsuccessfully join the Marines, and given the astroturf grassroots PAID "volunteers" whom I first pointed out here before ace's post or others commented, you'd surmise that any/all US Military Veterans who protest specific corrupt US Government policy are obviously douchebags. You'd be brain dead to call that "logic".

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 05:05 PM (lpWVn)

repeating:  so, "didn't take long"  what branch of the military did you serve in and from when-when?  Since you're apparently so cued in to our code of conduct, tell us why you're so qualified to offer an opinion?

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 01:06 PM (x3YFz)

273 271

"You want to detail on another's behalf what rationale not neo just conservative pronounces as worth conserving"

I assume that you're using "rationale" as an unnecessarily obtuse way of asking for a list of principles.

What rationale I pronounce worth conserving?  Try this.  Put the thesaurus down.

I never responded to you because "Do explain what it is that you conserve." is a stupid and pointless question.  I know you're trying your heart out to make a play on my nic, but that's barely coherent and you just keep going back to it like it's some kind of sparkling gem of prose and I must have been blinded by its brilliance and missed it.  I didn't miss it.  I saw it the very first time.  I just don't waste my time on someone (unless your name happens to be Bill Buckley) who uses the word "elucidate" rather than "state" or "speak" when the manner of writing is for the express purpose of attempting to show your overwhelming intellectualism to us dimwits. 


Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 01:07 PM (01RS2)

274 278 I was referring to the awesomeness that is JT Ready, whom you seem to know intimately well.

Evidently, you profess to know JT Ready intimately as "the awesomeness" yourself, Troy Riser.

Putting it politely, JT produced a jarring illustration spouting Tea Party rhetoric. Given JT's past effort to unsuccessfully join the Marines, and given the astroturf grassroots PAID "volunteers" whom I first pointed out here before ace's post or others commented, you'd surmise that any/all US Military Veterans who protest specific corrupt US Government policy are obviously douchebags. You'd be brain dead to call that "logic".

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 05:05 PM (lpWVn)

This last post has about 30 red flags that say:  "I'm just some hippie shitbag loser and I watch DVR of MSNBC over and over again and I think Bill Maher is cool"

Yer done here.  Feel free to lash out so we can mock you a bit more because it's fun, but nonetheless:  you're fucking done.

Posted by: tangonine at October 27, 2011 01:09 PM (x3YFz)

275 277

Still a Nazi?  No way! But 'didn't take long' swears that JT had an epiphany and saw the light and became a noble defender of downtrodden stinky hippie persons.  A Paladin adorned in the purest white, if you will.  Nay one of the six great Amesha Spenta of Ahura Mazda, even.

/closes Wikipedia tab

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 01:16 PM (01RS2)

276 Oh, and JT didn't "unsuccessfully join the Marines" 'didn't take long'.  He joined, was Court Martialed twice, served some time in the brig and then got his ass kicked out with a BCD.  He's a shit bag who dishonors every man and woman who ever served their Country and I take that personally.  That fat Nazi fuck wouldn't make a pimple on a Leatherneck's ass.

Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 01:22 PM (01RS2)

277 This is the escalation Obozo needs to use the Patriot act against US citizens. The fuckers want to shut down the election. Why is this happening in Nappy Bluto's state???? It won't be long before the 'real deal' hits the streets .

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