April 14, 2011
— Monty
(All hail the mighty Slublog for the graphic.)
While I labor on part 3 of my "basics of economics" series (Savings, Credit, Debt, and Banking), I thought it wise to remind you that DOOM! still lurks close by. You know, in case your mood had improved or you were thinking of being happy today.
President Obama's speech didn't exactly thrill Congressman Paul Ryan, who'd been specifically invited to attend. You might say that Obama's partisan, hectoring, mean-spirited speech pissed him right off, in fact. It's kind of like being invited to a party only to find that the point of the whole party was to insult you.
The WSJ wasn't feeling the love either. Our very own Ace shat on it from a great height yesterday. The Hammer thought it was "a disgrace". So to whatever juiceboxer Obama detailed to write that abomination of a speech, congratulations! You certainly had an impact!
Many rank-and-file Republicans have become rather dispirited at how little "there" is there in the hard-fought Continuing Resolution spending bill that House Speaker Boehner proudly announced early in the week. Mark Steyn captures some of the ennui:
At some point, you have to close a cabinet department just to show youÂ’re serious. Instead, the governing class is sending the message that the political institutions of the United States are so diseased they do not permit meaningful course correction.
To the looming public-sector pension "bomb", the housing "bomb", the Medicare "bomb", the Social Security "bomb", and the real actual Iranian "bomb", we can now add the "tax and debt bomb". We've got so many bombs up in here we oughta open up a bomb store. Complete destruction, now 10% off! Every bomb must go!
This just in from rdbrewer: Jobless claims jump by 27,000 to 412,000. All together now -- unexpectedly!
And yes...California and Illinois are still boned.
[UPDATE 1]: Here's a good policy-level discussion of what Obama's budget alternative really means in fiscal terms. (I can summarize it: much higher taxes, not much in terms of reduced spending. And it doesn't touch entitlement spending at all.)
[UPDATE 2]: A reminder -- Atlas Shrugged opens tomorrow. I've never been a huge fan of the book -- I think The Fountainhead is a far better work -- but I'm going to see the movie. It feels almost like a duty to go see it at this point.
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And last week's number was "unexpectedly" revised upwards too. What joy it is to live in Barry's economic golden age
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2011 04:53 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 04:57 AM (M9Ie6)
About fucking time: World's first 3D porn film
Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2011 04:57 AM (8ay4x)
Would you folks recommend a 10mm or a .45 ACP for home defense?
Thanks to Barky, I think I'm going to need it. I live in a city.
I like the .45 because it was my personal sidearm when I was in the service (9 mm came later). But I've heard good things about the 10mm too.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 14, 2011 04:57 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: The Mindset of 66 Percent of the American Public at April 14, 2011 04:59 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2011 05:00 AM (8ay4x)
I recommend a short barrel shotgun with the plug removed. A 10mm or .45 can act as a backup but the shotgun all around is better for the short distances involved and will not go through the exterior walls of the house after going through the target.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 05:00 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 05:00 AM (4Pleu)
Boner settled for "cuts" of about 2 hours worth of Federal Spending.....
the feds act like there is NO cutting to be done in federal land....
defense cuts?
How about the 35 dollar a day meal allowance for Officers for one?
Considering the SES class of civil servant gets expense accounts for lunch maybe there is a lot of belt tightening the government class can engage in before they decide they need to go 'breakfast of champions" on everyone making more than a hundred Gs?
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 05:01 AM (kq1lG)
I recommend a short barrel shotgun with the plug removed
Done. Sounds like a plan.
Now....if I just had a good source for some Claymores.
(The AP mine, not the sword)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 14, 2011 05:01 AM (sbV1u)
Also add to that, when the collapse comes, as it looks like we will have more and more your best bet is to GTF out of the city as fast as you can.
You need to be at least 100 miles from any city over 500K and 35 miles from any city over 50K.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 05:03 AM (M9Ie6)
You want to go with 9mm or .40 because that is what the gangbangers will be using after they lift them off the cops.......
scavenging ammo is vitally important in any apocalyptic scenario.....
not that I advocate rioting or defense from said same
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 05:03 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2011 05:03 AM (8ay4x)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 14, 2011 05:03 AM (flOh0)
The good news is that it's only by a small amount and my financial situation looks good enough that I'm not worried.
Posted by: Alex at April 14, 2011 05:04 AM (x40U+)
scavenging ammo is vitally important in any apocalyptic scenario.....
When that .45 slug goes through the target I'll be able to take the 9mm he lifted from the cops AND all the ammo.
See? I'm thinking ahead!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 14, 2011 05:05 AM (sbV1u)
indeed.....
I am thinking that having 5 10 gallon containers of gasoline and 500+ rounds of ammo along with 2 50 pound bags of rice a 100 pounds of salt and a smile is vital......
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 05:05 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 05:05 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: EC at April 14, 2011 05:06 AM (GQ8sn)
you can buy a replica winchester 97 pump gun for under 400 bucks....
now the nice thing about the '97 was you can slide fire it by holding back the trigger....
so it is like a 5shot semi-auto in a jam
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 05:07 AM (kq1lG)
Like a fool. -_-
The GOP will betray you. Always. I do not believe the ship can be turned aright at this point in time - all that can be done is to prepare for what happens when it capsizes.
Nothing like a little DOOM in the morning...
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 05:07 AM (i4EAV)
Posted by: hughie at April 14, 2011 05:07 AM (+56Bh)
You know what I was thinking about ammo?
.22 bullets are dirt cheap. You could conceivably buy 10,000 of them and just put them in a box in the basement.
Modding your rifles to take .22 ammo is not all that hard/expensive.
And a .22 pistol will kill someone just as dead as a 9mm or .40 or .45.
Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2011 05:08 AM (8ay4x)
However, all that being said, for the collapse of civilization/doom scenario those concerns may not be important.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 05:08 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 05:08 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 14, 2011 05:08 AM (Pzf4N)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 14, 2011 05:10 AM (usvhr)
Posted by: Dave C at April 14, 2011 05:10 AM (CbAFk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 14, 2011 05:11 AM (0GFWk)
Indeed. Glad to see some early morning DOOM, I was getting worried that all this edumacation work you're doing would get in the way of your DoomCasting skills.
Now to go back and read some of the links.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 14, 2011 05:12 AM (ENKCw)
Remember: MOOD spelled backwards is DOOM!
Howsa 'bout all you musical 'morons get together a band called Moody Doom? Monty can supply you with all the lyrics you need.
Posted by: ya2daup at April 14, 2011 05:12 AM (1Ey1g)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 05:13 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Dave C at April 14, 2011 05:13 AM (CbAFk)
Today in 1865, Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.
Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2011 09:00 AM (8ay4x)
He was shot today; he died tomorrow.
Posted by: ya2daup at April 14, 2011 05:14 AM (1Ey1g)
Coffee cans full of gunpowder and nails.
The backblast area will be a bitch.
Naaah, I need the real thing. There's just something very satisfying about using that clacker to detonate.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 14, 2011 05:14 AM (sbV1u)
behold the power of the credit card....
if the federales can spend like there is no tomorrow why can't we?
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 05:14 AM (kq1lG)
“Hiring will accelerate over the next few months,” said Ryan Sweet, a senior economist at Moody’s Analytics Inc. in West Chester, Pennsylvania. “This is a temporary blip and the labor market will continue to heal.”
Yeah, sure it will right after I sprout wings. With brainless twats like Ryan, it's no wonder that every unemployment number is "unexpected"
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2011 05:15 AM (1Jaio)
Do you really want to see the money shot in 3D?
Posted by: Dave C at April 14, 2011 09:10 AM (CbAFk)
Hey! Watch where you're pointing that thing!
Posted by: ya2daup at April 14, 2011 05:16 AM (1Ey1g)
The "saving grace" of those urban rioters will be the fact that almost none of them have POVs. Initially the only vehicles available to them will be the emergency vehicles that they have commandeered without burning.
The ones that make it to the 'burbs will be somewhat smarter and they will steal cars there. of course, in the cities away from the NE those burbs will be armed so at least half of the scum will be killed in the local 'burbs before moving to the more distant 'burbs and small towns.
Even with all of that, within the first month the "die off" in urban areas will be in the millions.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 05:16 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 05:17 AM (4Pleu)
Owners of gas-powered cars in Chicago could get some city sticker shock to go along with the pain at the pump if one alderman's plan to increase the cost of the annual stickers is approved.
Ald. Proco "Joe" Moreno, 1st, hopes to raise about $21 million a year under a proposal that also would make the stickers free for drivers of electric cars and cut the cost for those with hybrid vehicles.
"The long-term goal is to give more incentive for people to drive more fuel-efficient cars," said Moreno, who drives a hybrid.
Welcome to Chicago - Ghost town of the 21st Century
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2011 05:18 AM (1Jaio)
The rifle I'm less fond of -- it's a Remington auto, and it jams a lot. I'm probably going to sell it and get a Savage Mark II or something.
Good choice, Monty. I have the Savage in bull barrel and with target ammo ($8.50/box Rem Eley) I can drive nails with it at 50 yards and have kill tree rats at 91 long paces. I love mine, despite the fact it weighs as much as a full sized big game rifle.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 05:18 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:21 AM (k1rwm)
#52. Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 09:19 AM (k1rwm)
“It’s likely that these delays [in foreclosure processing] will push out the housing recovery further than anticipated,” Sharga said.
There's a housing recovery? Seriously, how do these goddamn dummies have jobs?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2011 05:23 AM (1Jaio)
BRICS demand global monetary shake-up, greater influence
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 14, 2011 05:24 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 09:21 AM (k1rwm)
Not according to Minitrue Bloomberg.com:
April 14 (Bloomberg) -- More Americans unexpectedly filed first-time claims for unemployment insurance last week, reflecting greater-than-normal volatility at the end of the quarter.
It's just some "quarter end volatility". Funny I don't remember it happening or being mentioned at any other quarter end
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2011 05:24 AM (1Jaio)
In the last thread before the ONT I posted the comments of the republican on the committee, they pretty much summed it all up nicely. It's being sent to the justice department. I realized it was late and I was literally sitting there laughing out loud. The next thought I had was: why does the president pick the Attorney General, why aren't we voting for that position?
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:26 AM (k1rwm)
Use personal ammo (hollowhead). The head flattens out upon impact and lodges into the communist's chest. Don't have to worry about exterior walls. Just don't miss the sons-a-bitches.
Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at April 14, 2011 05:26 AM (MPtFW)
Posted by: nevergiveup at April 14, 2011 05:27 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 05:27 AM (uVLrI)
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:28 AM (k1rwm)
My rule is to kill any spam in the first 10 comments. No way do the spammers get a top-ten post, not on my watch.
If you promise to also kill any posts that say "First!", I'll make you a sammich.
Posted by: Mama AJ, trying out this "barter" idea at April 14, 2011 05:30 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 05:30 AM (OlN4e)
This post-apocalyptic Mad Max stuff is silly talk. It won't happen.
"DOOM!!!" will look more like Detroit or your typical Latin American country. There will be a large number of peasants on the dole, they will be given subsistence level payments, just enough to keep them from rioting. Crime will be even worse in the cities than it is now. There will be a small number of very wealthy people who will control everything and all government systems will be designed to prevent any competition. It won't be what you know but who you know. There will be widespread favors given and earned along with payoffs and bribes to the necessary government officials; the government officials will take this in cash to supplement their income. Everyone will know that the government officials are corrupt but rarely will anything be done about it because corruption will be the grease that keeps the system's wheels turning. There will be an even smaller middle class that will spend most of its time trying to stay above water but will never be able to become wealthy because the system will be set up to prevent that from even happening. Everyone will cheat like crazy on their taxes.The best and brightest of the middle class will leave the country for better options elsewhere; the only question I have is which country or countries will be the destinations.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 05:30 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:32 AM (k1rwm)
possibly I think the mad max thing is as likely as brain drain in the short term....
if Algore's right Antarctica will have potential....
if not if enough right-minded Yanks went juan Valdez Border jumper on canada we'd run the place in 5 years.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 05:34 AM (kq1lG)
You are neglecting the impact on hundreds of thousands of "Peggy Joseph's" being cut off from their free lunch and government cheese for the first time in their family's history. Right now there are multiple generations who have NEVER worked for their living in their lives.
When those checks quit coming in all at once the ultimate collapse will come from those urban areas and radiate out.
That is why we MUST get control of the budget and start killing those things in a slow manner to wean them off.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 05:36 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 05:37 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 09:30 AM (JxMoP)
Sadly, I think this is right. No glorious blaze - just a sad slog into decay.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 05:37 AM (xUM1Q)
I predict we enter into a recession again (Double Dip) by July and it will be Bush's fault !!!!!!
Posted by: George Flakler at April 14, 2011 05:38 AM (SZy+Y)
Another reason we are DOOMED! The media can't say anything negative about BO without being forced to change it:
A glimmer of hope...some at the WSJ get it.
Posted by: dananjcon at April 14, 2011 08:09 AM (pr+up)
dananjcon, The WSJ changed the title.
Yesterday I posted that on another site and the title then was "The Presidential Destroyer" rather than "The Presidential Divider."
I wonder what or who made them change the title?
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 14, 2011 08:15 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 05:38 AM (penCf)
Disagree. Americans won't put up with the shit you've described. At least not for very long. What you're describing is precisely what the 2nd Amendment was designed to be used for. And Americans WILL use said amendment.
Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at April 14, 2011 05:39 AM (MPtFW)
Posted by: Laptop Battery at April 14, 2011 05:39 AM (j84s0)
You are neglecting the impact on hundreds of thousands of "Peggy Joseph's" being cut off from their free lunch and government cheese for the first time in their family's history.
When those checks quit coming in all at once the ultimate collapse will come from those urban areas and radiate out.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 09:36 AM (M9Ie6)
Why do you think the checks will quit coming? I contend that they'll keep coming - they'll just buy less and less over time.
The collapse of the Soviet Union was a pretty unimpressive affair. They still managed to keep people fed well enough that there was no mass starvation, and heated well enough that not very many people froze to death.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 05:40 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 14, 2011 05:41 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 14, 2011 05:41 AM (Pzf4N)
if Algore's right Antarctica will have potential....
if not if enough right-minded Yanks went juan Valdez Border jumper on canada we'd run the place in 5 years.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 09:34 AM (kq1lG)
A post-apocalyptic wasteland would require a sudden catastrophic event, IMO. The more likely scenario to me is a slow, crushing descent into national poverty which gives time for people to adapt to a new normal. A brain drain requires people to figure out where to go, I have no idea where that is right now. I suppose Canada is an option.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 05:42 AM (JxMoP)
Obama's constituents consist of Amanda Marcotte, Rachel Maddow, Huffington, Michael Moore, Ezra Klein, Ed Schultz and Andrew Sullivan.
Otherwise known asthe radical, mouth-breathing, progressive, hate-filled left.
Obama's speech was for them.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 14, 2011 05:42 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:42 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: hobbes at April 14, 2011 05:42 AM (du4U/)
Posted by: Johnny Jenkins at April 14, 2011 05:42 AM (SZy+Y)
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 09:30 AM (JxMoP)
In a perfect world, I might be willing to take for granted all that you say.
But the world is not perfect; you forget that we live in a first-world nation accustomed to luxury, armed to the teeth, with a heavily resentful dependence class, seething with rage, lusting for the opportunity to 'get even' with the 'haves'. You also have the heavily resentful independent-class, armed, wary, and aware that there are many, many people, especially amongst the leadership of the nation, who have their eye set towards taking what is theirs, and throwing them head-first into a 21st-century USSR.
Then, you have the ever-expanding problem with Islam trying to rape and kill everything that walks the earth, Russia eyeballing taking its satellite nations back, the Middle East set to explode, all of Europe ready to go down the financial drain, and South America and Africa being pits of poverty and repression, as always. What you have, sir, is World War III, not Mad Max.
Hungry, angry, disenfranchised (real or imagined) people are susceptible to a great many base impulses, and are ripe pickings for manipulation into war, riots, and all manner of political darkness.
One thing you can count on for certain; any solutions proposed for this time period are going to fail. <.< We are way, way too far along the path. Trust in the Lord, and nothing else, 'cause all this is goin' the way of the dodo.
It's a madhouse waiting to happen.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 05:43 AM (i4EAV)
Secretary of State Jon Husted says a report has found nearly 18,500 dead people on the stateÂ’s voter rolls. Records of registered voters were cross-checked with a list of deceased Ohioans maintained by the state Health Department.
Okay, it's not Doom, but the Headline thread is already dead for the day.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 14, 2011 05:44 AM (ENKCw)
To Lemon Kitten,
I can't explain it to you because you are too damn stupid to follow my BS. Got it bitter gun clinger !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Barry Obama at April 14, 2011 05:45 AM (SZy+Y)
It's the graphic, we have to get gabe a graphic now so he can compete.
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:45 AM (k1rwm)
Why do you think the checks will quit coming? I contend that they'll keep coming - they'll just buy less and less over time.
Exactly, that plus drugs will keep the rabble under control.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 05:46 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at April 14, 2011 09:39 AM (MPtFW)
How I wish that were true. But I doubt it. I consider my own situation. I am enraged daily by the Libtards abuses, by their destruction of our culture and nation. The government is already illegitimate. But I have too much to lose to go taking up arms, as do most other middle class conservative types. As things decay it will only get harder to keep up a decent way of life - who has time to rebel? And replace the current pukes with what? The Right is pathetically unorganized. If we had any kind of real leadership (we don't) we wouldn't be in this mess. Or else we would certainly already be organizing local cells in every town. We're not.
Without an organization, a structure, we can't effectively rebel. Our central government is not some ancient monarchy across the Atlantic - it's a modern super state, right here, watching us. It's ready to do whatever must be done to preserve itself.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 05:47 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 05:47 AM (4Pleu)
Cries of voter discrimination from the local DNC (how dare you deprive the undead of the chance to participate in our democracy?!) in 3, 2, 1....
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 14, 2011 05:48 AM (9hSKh)
Patriotic Parade
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 05:48 AM (penCf)
NB: I think the Remington jams *because* it is an auto. The .22LR doesn't have a lot of powder to drive the ejection mechanism. The next .22LR rifle I buy will be a boltgun. (The Buckmark is an auto, though, and it almost never jams, even with crappy ammo.)
Ruger 10/22, but only with the factory 10 rd magazines. Most examples are extremely reliable with decent ammo, with the bulk-pack Remington Golden Bullet, not so much. Awful, awful ammo.
Plus, there's a shitload of accessories for the 10/22 out there. You can build it as a tackdriver, or as a smaller ultralight trunk gun or anything in between that's appropriate for .22lr.
And for most of us who live in non-free states, you can legally build one from scratch (paperless!) with some basic tooling and an 80% receiver.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2011 05:49 AM (sBoN3)
Come now....."First!" is a tradition. What next, ban "The Chicken", "Charlie Gibson" and "!!!!11!!!ELEVENTY!!!11!!!"
All the others are funny. Well, attempted humor, cuz we're morons, ya know. I've never seen much humor value in the "first" comments. Except when they actually end up being 8th. And mis-spelling first.
I'm thinking cause everyone knows that it looks like for a full fill up and can't take seeing the number.
I whimpered out loud at the cost for a half tank and that was at Sam's Club, which is one of the lowest prices around.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 14, 2011 05:51 AM (XdlcF)
With witnesses to the opening and counting and the counting done in place and then signed by like ten witnesses and the counter and the checker and the extra checker (one dem, one republican, one independent)
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:51 AM (k1rwm)
I figured out that blogs that do not want the first comment displayed in a google search, go with the "first" thing
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 05:52 AM (k1rwm)
"Obama's speech was for them."
I take the view that Obama's speech is the true reflection of his soul: a racist class warrior. One of Lenin's own. He eats envy with both fists and is looking for a snack daily. One twisted mother fucker.
Posted by: Charly Sheen at April 14, 2011 05:52 AM (Q5+Og)
Try higher velocity ammo. I have the same problem with my Browning .22 pistol when I use very low velocity ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 05:53 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: hobbes at April 14, 2011 05:53 AM (du4U/)
Cal State is set to lose $500 million in state funding, and annual tuition will increase by 10% in the fall.
At Cal State Long Beach, several hundred students and faculty gathered in front of the student union, where they joined a gospel choir to sing civil rights songs, including "We Shall Overcome."
Donald Bessom, a political science graduate student, energized the crowd with a message to Cal State administrators and state legislators. "The harder you hit us, the louder we get," Bessom said, as the crowd cheered.
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 05:56 AM (penCf)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 14, 2011 05:56 AM (Pzf4N)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 14, 2011 05:57 AM (jx2j9)
This post-apocalyptic Mad Max stuff is silly talk. It won't happen.
Killjoy.
I have a set of silver-painted football shoulderpads, turkey feathers to duct-tape to my noggin and assless chaps hanging in the closet waiting for the zombie apocalypse. Don't be harshing my mellow, dude.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2011 05:57 AM (sBoN3)
There are a huge amount of data that show this to be incorrect. The FBI did some studies that found that hollow point expanding rounds were the most reliable stoppers.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 05:57 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 05:57 AM (4Pleu)
Oh noes, it was unexpected! Again !!
Posted by: These guys sure are surprised a lot at April 14, 2011 05:58 AM (vg/23)
Posted by: China, looking for cropland at April 14, 2011 05:58 AM (JZBti)
When this election cycle really gets moving, I believe that we should start sending thank you cards to everyone in this country under 25 years of age, including all of the little children, thanking them for paying for the irresponsible decision making on the part of our politicians.
Parties need'nt be identified, imo.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 14, 2011 05:59 AM (jx2j9)
In the coming apocalypse the need for Ethnic Studies majors will be huge (they tend to be chubby and nicely marbled).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 06:00 AM (LH6ir)
Will the Democrats who run/ran Fannie and Freddie give back the millions of dollars they essentially stole from tax payers and poor families?
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 14, 2011 06:01 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2011 09:57 AM (sBoN3)
Well, there are places in this country that you could wear that right now and look like you belong.
Don't forget the dog collar and leash. And the crossbow.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 06:03 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: World Wide Wank at April 14, 2011 06:05 AM (j84s0)
Posted by: Evil libertarian at April 14, 2011 06:05 AM (XV/Eq)
http://tinyurl.com/4jsz2uf
Posted by: Kemp at April 14, 2011 06:05 AM (JpFM9)
Posted by: China, looking for cropland at April 14, 2011 09:58 AM (JZBti)
I don't quite know how I forgot about China in all that... forty million men unable to find a chickie friend by 2030, massively deflated currency at home, propped-up economic scoreboards beneath which is swept the cold stark reality that China's ready for its own kind of collapse in the next twenty years, if not way sooner, and their eternal animosity with Japan, which is also in dire straits, economically, demographically, et cetera.
None of this is good. All of it is really, really bad. The DOOM is only a half-joke, a bleak bit of black humor before it all goes batty on us. As bad as it is made out to be, it's actually quite worse.
We live in dark times, where we may literally watch the play-by-play of how the world descends into war. In the build-up to World War II, they already had newspapers, but were not afforded the kind of true instantaneous communication and dissemination of news that we have in the Internet era. It's hard to for us to believe, simply because it's all right there, and we can see all of it.
Trust in the Lord, and not in disaster preparedness. The hour is later than we think, and it's quite worse than we had thought.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 06:06 AM (i4EAV)
Posted by: palerider at April 14, 2011 06:09 AM (cQZV0)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 14, 2011 06:09 AM (0fzsA)
"The harder you hit us, the louder we get," Bessom said, as the crowd cheered.
Oh, noes, not loud college students! We'd better give them all our money. Esp. the money we don't have.
Somebody needs to organize a counter-protest of these idiots' parents yelling "shut up and get a job". I'm guessing that would be much, much louder.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 14, 2011 06:09 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 14, 2011 06:10 AM (Z1jiu)
http://tinyurl.com/4jsz2uf
Posted by: Kemp at April 14, 2011 10:05 AM (JpFM9)
That had me sobbing like I lost those represented by pictures in the commercial. Damn.Hallmark ain't gotten nothing on that commercial.
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 06:11 AM (penCf)
Same here. I purchased the slightly higher grained stuff and it works fine.
Posted by: Slublog at April 14, 2011 06:12 AM (0nqdj)
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 09:07 AM (i4EAV)
Did you expect an actual cut? Guess what, you've been boned. The "deal" will have a end-of-the-day FY2011 discretionary outlay of $1,365 billion, which according to DOOM! Math™ is $18 billion more than FY2010 discretionary outlay of $1,347 billion.
Posted by: steveegg at April 14, 2011 06:13 AM (o44nj)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 14, 2011 10:10 AM (Z1jiu)
What? You can't say that otherwise you'll be relegated to "specials" on Fox and told you are a "fear monger" and "conspiracy theorist".
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 06:14 AM (k1rwm)
Bad faith/blind faith pro-Obama media alert: Nicholas Kristof has this to say regarding Obama's speech on tax hikes and insults.
"Mr. ObamaÂ’s speech was excellent not only for its content but also because he didnÂ’t insult our intelligence. " --Nicholas Kristof
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 14, 2011 06:15 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 14, 2011 06:16 AM (Pzf4N)
We've got so many bombs up in here we oughta open up a bomb store. Complete destruction, now 10% off! Every bomb must go!
Barack Obama: Hey George, we got a problem, the bomb store called and they're all outta bombs.
George Costanza: Oh yeah? Well the jerk store called, they're all outta you!
BHO: What difference does that make? You're they're all time best seller!
GC: I had sex with your wife!
BHO: Why on earth would you want to do that?
Posted by: yinzer at April 14, 2011 06:16 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 14, 2011 06:17 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: yinzer at April 14, 2011 06:19 AM (/Mla1)
Trust in the Lord, and not in disaster preparedness. The hour is later than we think, and it's quite worse than we had thought.
The Lord gave us opposable thumbs and the ability to reason, and prepare. I don't believe that He would look kindly upon those who would not use His gifts to ensure their family's survival.
The Lord helps those who help themselves.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2011 06:19 AM (sBoN3)
Speaker Beaner is either a thorough going RINO or a GOP "Charlie Brown" cockholster for the Dims... or both.
Watch this guy declare victory on the 2012+ budget(s) while failing to close one agency or actually reduce entitlements and transfer payments.
Then watch Obumbles get reelected in 2012.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at April 14, 2011 06:19 AM (EhYdw)
got told yesterday by an ultra lib/dem. "oh they won't default, they'll pay the Chinese et al but they won't pay welfare or medicare or medicade or social security and they might borrow everyone's 401K or IRA". My friend who was in the conversation asked me to close my mouth. (good thing she did, my jaw nearly locked)
But maybe we are getting a clue as to the mindset.
oh and this morning I forgot he sent me an email saying "oh and they can always confiscate gold and silver as there is a precedent for that"
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 06:19 AM (k1rwm)
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — U.S. wholesale prices rose sharply in March, spurred once again by higher gasoline costs, but food prices fell for the first time in seven months.
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On what planet did food prices fall?!
http://tinyurl.com/3ca6te8
Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2011 06:20 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 09:57 AM (LH6ir)
You miss the point. I was talking lethality, not energy dump. Hollowpoints dump more energy and shock, but the wadcutters are more lethal. There is a difference.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 06:20 AM (OlN4e)
when I said, like McShame he was hand picked by the prez you all said "well it's his turn" and made me feel stupid. I don't feel so stupid now, I think I was absolutely right.
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 06:21 AM (k1rwm)
That was damned brilliant. I was already teary-eyed ten seconds in.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 06:21 AM (i4EAV)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 14, 2011 06:21 AM (Y0wFY)
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 06:22 AM (OlN4e)
In America, our hobocats have X-boxes, plasma TVs and fat bellies.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 14, 2011 06:22 AM (pdRb1)
What I find frightening is that you can find those kinds of comments on the new sites that still allow comments and on a lot of blogs. After that speech people aren't feeling in a hopeful mood. Although, monty brought the "doom" first, he was the man, the original, now they are all playing catch up.
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 06:23 AM (k1rwm)
Did you expect an actual cut? Guess what, you've been boned. The "deal" will have a end-of-the-day FY2011 discretionary outlay of $1,365 billion, which according to DOOM! Math™ is $18 billion more than FY2010 discretionary outlay of $1,347 billion.
Posted by: steveegg at April 14, 2011 10:13 AM (o44nj)
I have no trust in the GOP. I think Sarah Palin might well try her damndest to win and turn this thing around, but it seems to me that it is far too late.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 06:24 AM (i4EAV)
In America, our hobocats have X-boxes, plasma TVs and fat bellies.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 14, 2011 10:22 AM (pdRb1)
they also wash windshield while you are stuck at the light going into the tunnel and then demand ten bucks or they'll accidentally break that windshield they just washed
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 06:25 AM (k1rwm)
Social Security made this country great!
without it we will ALL die!!!
DIE I SAY!
(suck it wingers, I won)
Posted by: The One at April 14, 2011 06:25 AM (473WA)
Late response due to morning walk-about (aka Dr. Detroit)
The Republican budget proposals would insure what you are talking about; a gradual walk-back of the government cheese over time.
But what you are missing is that these proposals are being killed and the Republican leadership is compromising them away. So what will happen is that we will continue along in the same manner as we are now with trillion dollar deficits, printing money to pay for it, and the collapse will hit over a relatively short period of time.
Think Wiemar Republic here.
And for the discussion on the accuracy of the .22 you must keep in mind that the .22 LR has never been a truly accurate cartridge to begin with. The true accuracy .22 contests that I have seen used single shot .22 rifles with a "bull barrel" firing longs or shorts.
The most accurate rifle I ever owned was a 03-A3 Springfield firing hand-loaded 160 gr Speer boat-tail spire points.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 06:26 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 06:27 AM (4Pleu)
Makes you think she doesn't have a taste for politics anymore.
Posted by: curious at April 14, 2011 06:27 AM (k1rwm)
Let's crank up private space exploration. Then we could terraform Mars and build a New America; the way it was meant to be. Just don't experiment with teleportation and accidentally open a portal to Hell... Talk about Doom!
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 14, 2011 06:29 AM (cv5Iw)
Let's crank up private space exploration. Then we could terraform Mars and build a New America; the way it was meant to be. Just don't experiment with teleportation and accidentally open a portal to Hell... Talk about Doom!
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 14, 2011 10:29 AM (cv5Iw)
I see what you did there.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 06:32 AM (i4EAV)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 06:33 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Pecos Bill at April 14, 2011 06:34 AM (j84s0)
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 06:35 AM (OlN4e)
Or don't mess around with any genetic experiments left behind on Mars by their now-dead civilization.
/DOOM: The movie may have fared better if it kept to the plot described in the video game rather than base the monsters around some far-fetched biological explanation.
btw - Bahrain to seek court approval to dissolve main Shiite opposition party - State news agency via Reuters
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 14, 2011 06:37 AM (9hSKh)
Think Wiemar Republic here.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 10:26 AM (M9Ie6)
I won't say it's impossible. But I question the time span. Right now I don't see the government spending doing much to net demand for goods and services, other than propping up what we've already been doing. We still have lots of empty housing, and lots of underutilized factories. I would be shocked if it turned out that farmers we not expanding the crop land in use next year, thus expanding food output (assuming the can get loans).
There's a lot of slack capacity. Until the private sector starts demanding the use of that capacity, I don't see inflation going anywhere. Deleveraging is still taking place, and banks aren't lending. Unemployment is sky high, so the labor supply is abundant. People need those dollars, and that sustains demand for the currency.
The big threat, as I see it, is international demand for resources driving up our input costs, while at the same time we stupidly cut our own throats by refusing to use our own abundant resources.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 06:40 AM (xUM1Q)
Hollywood couldn't do that. The game features "Hell", which infers religion. That's icky.
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 14, 2011 06:41 AM (cv5Iw)
exactly....the United States is being held hostage by rich sierra club billionaires who prevent us from exploiting our resources to engage in real growth and competition on the global stage in the pursuit of some mythical "perfect eco world".....
save the economy donkey punch a moonbat
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 06:43 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Just Observing at April 14, 2011 06:44 AM (1ZXRm)
I have never understood the attraction of motorcycles, although I own one and have a license. Every time I get on it I think, WTF I am going to get hit by some idiot on a cell phone while I have bugs in my teeth.
Now cruising in my Porsche up a mountain road, that's a whole lot of fun. I have tunes, cold beverage, and the bugs hit the windshield.
Posted by: Kemp at April 14, 2011 06:44 AM (vSiVD)
I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but everytime Paul Ryan talks about cutting the budget, dead old people start piling up in my driveway and on my porch. To cope with this problem, I modified my snow blower. It's now a dopblower - dead old people blower. Awesome!
I'm thinking about putting some chrome and custom wheels on it.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 14, 2011 06:44 AM (jx2j9)
Republicans' budget plan would put seniors' lives at risk, the
incoming chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) said
Thursday.
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Florida
congresswoman tapped by President Obama to lead the DNC, said she stood
by her characterization of Republicans' 2012 budget as a "death trap"
for seniors.
When pressed on whether she intended to say that the GOP budget put seniors' lives at risk, Wasserman Schultz doubled down.
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 06:46 AM (penCf)
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 14, 2011 10:41 AM (cv5Iw)
Wasn't that the concept in Event Horizon?
Regarding space exploration, even if we could manage it (we can't yet) we'd have to be the first guys to go out. Screw that noise. I'm not interested in spending the rest of my days in a Martian cave trying to get microbes to grow so that in 500 years there might an atmosphere comparable to that on the top of Mount Everest. When they figure out FTL and find a nice Eden planet out there someplace, call me. Until then, I'm focusing my thoughts on how best to get by on this terrestrial ball.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 06:46 AM (xUM1Q)
http://freedom-school.com/money/how-an-economy-grows.pdf
It's in comic book format so even a moron can understand it, and when you're done you'll know more about economics than the idiots at the Treasury and Federal Reserve.
Posted by: schizoid at April 14, 2011 06:47 AM (+Glp5)
Diane Black (Tenn.)
Republicans Who Support Deal (20)
John Boehner (Ohio)
Kevin Brady (Texas)
Larry Bucshon (Ind.)
Eric Cantor (Va.)
Vicky Hartzler (Mo.)
Duncan Hunter (Calif.)
James Lankford (Okla.)
Steven LaTourette (Ohio)
Kevin McCarthy (Calif.)
David McKinley (W.Va.)
Kristi Noem (S.D.)
Pete Olson (Texas)
Joe Pitts (Pa.) - Was one of 54 GOP defections on earlier stopgap bill.
Todd Platts (Pa.)
Jim Renacci (Ohio)
Peter Roskam (Ill.)
Bobby Schilling (Ill.)
Austin Scott (Ga.)
John Shimkus (Ill.)
Lee Terry (Neb.)
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 06:49 AM (penCf)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 06:52 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 06:53 AM (uVLrI)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 14, 2011 06:53 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 10:51 AM (penCf)
And those women hold those signs, because if they don't, they're going to be either beaten, raped, or killed, because they don't wear "the armor" that supposedly keeps that from happening, i.e., they have no choice but to endorse their own repression.
Who can deny that Islam is a cancer? It must be utterly destroyed.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 06:54 AM (i4EAV)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 06:54 AM (kq1lG)
I have no trust in the GOP. I think Sarah Palin might well try her damndest to win and turn this thing around, but it seems to me that it is far too late.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 10:24 AM (i4EAV)
Don't forget the barbs. After all, the CBO can't model the economy beyond 2037 on the current trajectory because the federal debt causes the computers to crash.
Posted by: steveegg at April 14, 2011 06:54 AM (o44nj)
Update: Charles Krauthammer's reaction:
“I thought it was a disgrace,” he said. “I rarely heard a speech by a president so shallow, so hyper-partisan and so intellectually dishonest, outside the last couple of weeks of a presidential election where you are allowed to call your opponent anything short of a traitor. But, we’re a year-and-a-half away from Election Day and it was supposed to be a speech about policy. He didn’t even get to his own alternative until more than halfway through the speech. And when he did, he threw out numbers suspended in mid-air with nothing under them with all kinds of goals and guidelines and triggers that mean nothing. The speech was really about and entirely an attack on the [Rep. Paul] Ryan plan.”
And Clive Crook (who does not like the Ryan plan) in The Atlantic:
The speech was more notable for its militant--though ineffectual--hostility to Republican proposals than for any fresh thinking of its own. It was a waste of breath.
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 06:55 AM (penCf)
Wasn't that the concept in Event Horizon?
It's never stated, but it's heavily implied that the alternative dimension Event Horizon ship traveled through was indeed Hell itself.
The movie concept itself was interesting (I liked the idea of a "haunted ship" - why should houses get all the haunting love?) and some of the visuals were downright creepy and terrifying.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 14, 2011 06:56 AM (9hSKh)
Marco Rubio responds to shitheadÂ’s speech.
IÂ’m not saying heÂ’s it, but we need to draft someone who is a credible threat to Obama. IMO, we donÂ’t have one yet.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 14, 2011 06:56 AM (jx2j9)
I've been wondering about this ...a lot. I'm thinking a Strong, ruthless, Leader, with the resources to beat the bitches back, and take whatever is needed, or wanted. Along the lines of "Ming the Merciless", or Darth Vader with an Attitude. The one that keeps popping to the top of the list...Vlad. Yea, but their not commies any more, right? Haven't they gone, the ruthless capitalist, robber-baron route? How hard would it be to learn Russian, but that Alphabet sucks big time. An Empire...just a thought. Ya know, get in at the ground level.
Posted by: Paladin at April 14, 2011 06:57 AM (nmc9V)
Who can deny that Islam is a cancer? It must be utterly destroyed.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 10:54 AM (i4EAV
Amen. Preach on, brother Kinley.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 06:57 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 14, 2011 06:58 AM (Pzf4N)
Obama's Increasing Federal Debt $1,148 Per Month Per Household—Enough to Buy a Car or Pay Tuition at State College
The pic to go along with it is so perfect
Overall, according to the U.S. Treasury, the federal debt increased by $3,646,116,554,704.36 between Jan. 20, 2009, when Obama was inaugurated, and April 13, 2011, when he gave a major speech announcing a plan to deal with the debt.
Given that the Census Bureau estimated in March that there are 117,538,000 households in the United States, the $3.6461 trillion increase in the debt under Obama works out to $31,020 per household.
Obama has now been in office 27 months. The $31,020 per household increase in the federal debt under his watch thus equals a per-household increase of $1,148 per month.
That $1,148 per month per household is more than a household would need to finance the monthly payments on a new domestically manufactured automobilePosted by: momma at April 14, 2011 06:58 AM (penCf)
There are a huge amount of data that show this to be incorrect. The FBI did some studies that found that hollow point expanding rounds were the most reliable stoppers.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 09:57 AM (LH6ir)
You miss the point. I was talking lethality, not energy dump. Hollowpoints dump more energy and shock, but the wadcutters are more lethal. There is a difference.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 10:20 AM (OlN4e)
If you're talking about handguns, you're both right and wrong. Excluding exotic ammo (e.g. Glasser safety rounds), hollowpoint expansion is very inconsistent with handgun ammo. About the only hollowpoint handgun ammo that expands fairly consistently is .357 magnum. According to FBI statistics the .357 has the highest rate of first round incapacitation and the highest lethality of LEO handguns.Wadcutters are virtually pre-expanded bullets, so they perform well if expansion isn't assured.
Of course I'm skipping non-typical LEO handguns like .44 magnums, .38 Super and the .454 Casull.
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 14, 2011 06:59 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 14, 2011 07:00 AM (yQWNf)
Event Horizon was creepy cool.
The money line: "They're not dead." Hell, indeed.
It's a good watch. Well themed, but not overtly religious.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 14, 2011 07:00 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 07:01 AM (4Pleu)
Yeah, kind of. Underrated movie, by the way. Never got the love from critics that it should have. (Pitch Black is another one. Though Vin Diesel should have just stopped there, because Chronicles of Riddick was ka-ka-poopie.)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 10:52 AM (4Pleu)
I loved both of those movies. Sunshine is another great space movie.
Posted by: KG at April 14, 2011 07:01 AM (DeCj1)
Event Horizon, Solaris, and Crichton's The Sphere are all basically the same thing, with Horizon being the goriest version. There was a Russain version of Solaris that was much better than the Clooney version.
If I'm not mistaken, Mag's son in Justified is that weird astronaut in Clooney's Solaris. Great actor.
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 14, 2011 07:02 AM (Je+k1)
<<<<Janes' Husband Joe>>>>> Which one of you revolutionary tubthumpers is going to be the first to cast lead? Which ones of you will be the first to go to the barricades? Which ones of you will be the first to be arrested and tried for sedition under the patriot act? My educated guess is that none of you will, especially the ones who speak of firearms and weaponry at length. My experience is that those who tough speak of guns and violence are the ones that piss their pants and run after the first shot is fired.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 07:04 AM (5/yRG)
__________
Don't forget: if the Earth runs out of petrochemicals, there's always Titan.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 14, 2011 07:05 AM (6fER6)
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 11:04 AM (5/yRG)
Uh oh.
Posted by: KG at April 14, 2011 07:06 AM (DeCj1)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 14, 2011 11:02 AM (Je+k1)
A children's sock puppet show would be better than Clooney's version.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 07:06 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at April 14, 2011 07:07 AM (Pzf4N)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:07 AM (uVLrI)
We have activated repeatedly the non-destructive termination routines for our out of control Government. We have input our instructions and changed many effectors but the machine has failed to respond.
When such a situation arises in the world of machines and mechanics, one of the options usually is soft termination of ALL input (energy sources, data) the next to last option is the soft termination of output (disconnection of the machine's ability to effect action) and the final step is the INTERRUPTION OF ALL INPUT AND OUTPUT WITH DISMANTLEMENT BEING EFFECTED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE.
I believe we have reached that moment.
Unfortunately too many people still have false hopes that it will self correct (the definition of insanity) and will stand in the way of a soft termination of the process' making a more extreme and more violent physical termination necessary.
In 1962, John F. Kennedy famously said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Posted by: jakee308 at April 14, 2011 07:08 AM (Pf0Ao)
Yeah, that was hard to fuckup too, since the Ruskies had already done it right.
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 14, 2011 07:09 AM (Je+k1)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 07:09 AM (4Pleu)
<<<<Janes' Husband Joe>>>>>
Joe, I believe you misunderstand where our concern comes from. It's defensive, not offensive. The union thugs have already started their shit, rest asssured that it'll be the left that starts anything, and that it'll be blamed on us.
What we discuss here is merely preparing for the worst. We always hope for the best. Today's circumstances seem really iffy. None of us have any desire to do anything except protect ourselves and our families against those who don't share our values.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 14, 2011 07:10 AM (d0Tfm)
(Pitch Black is another one. Though Vin Diesel should have just stopped there, because Chronicles of Riddick was ka-ka-poopie.)
Loved Pitch Black. Just the right amount of nihilism to make it interesting, but not totally soul-crushing. And killing the annoying "good" hero was quite satisfying.
The less said about Chronicles the better. I mean really, they re-used a fucking Star Trek bat'leth in at least one scene.
Although, that "back o' da bus" line is pretty funny.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2011 07:13 AM (sBoN3)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:13 AM (uVLrI)
Posted by: George Orwell at April 14, 2011 07:13 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 14, 2011 07:14 AM (SB0V2)
who here is a macho tubthumper?
I don't suppose you notice I am not blowing up bridges or anything I am running like hell to get away from the likely "NBA title celebratory riots" that will be going on in every major US city the first time the foodstamp cards don't work en mass.....
when I get to my "undisclosed location" hidey hole I plan to work my ass off helping keep vittles going....
YMMV
I have far more faith in the rage of the spoiled US scavenger class than i do in our government's ability to control anything
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 07:14 AM (kq1lG)
Just what kind of "experience" have you had? I have been shot at before. have you?
No one truly knows how they will react until it happens, but I'll guarandamntee you in a neighborhood with a mob of rioters coming in to rape, steal, kill, and plunder after the collapse everyone WILL fight back after the fur starts flying.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 07:14 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 11:09 AM (4Pleu)
Yep. That's why, in terms of national policy at least, it's best to take people at their word when they say they want to kill you. I'm thinking of the Muz, specifically. This is especially true when they say it but don't think you'll find out - like when they preach murder in their mosques in Arabic.
Most conservatives are so law-and-order oriented that it takes something pretty extreme to get them to the point of violence. Unlike the Left. However, there is a limit. Pushed too far, even a mouse will fight.
Posted by: Reactionary at April 14, 2011 07:15 AM (xUM1Q)
UJ's reading from the post bambi coronation playbook.....
it takes a while to get the new sermon against those who fear the DOOM!
evidently my 20 years in the workforce world were wrong and you really can have the feds spend 40 dollars plus a day for every man woman and child in the US forvever and it will never implode the productive world.....
of course Jane if that is true then why not be a moonbat?
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 07:16 AM (kq1lG)
Just what kind of "experience" have you had? I have been shot at before. have you?
And to think Vic, that experience could have been avoided if she had just told you she was married before hand....................
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Cameraman in the worlds first 3D porno at April 14, 2011 07:18 AM (sBoN3)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:18 AM (uVLrI)
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 07:19 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 14, 2011 07:19 AM (usvhr)
Although, that "back o' da bus" line is pretty funny.
Chronicles of Riddick makes a much better video game series. Escape from Butcher Bay was awesome, and Assault on Dark Athena was alright.
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 14, 2011 07:20 AM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 14, 2011 07:20 AM (yQWNf)
I suspect he will show more backbone defending himself to Laura Ingraham than he showed negotiating with Soetero.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 14, 2011 07:21 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 11:19 AM (M9Ie6)
What a coincidence!
*sarc* I thought I needed that.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 14, 2011 07:21 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: HoneyBadger at April 14, 2011 07:23 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 07:23 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 14, 2011 07:24 AM (Je+k1)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 14, 2011 07:24 AM (npr0X)
Posted by: Paladin at April 14, 2011 10:57 AM (nmc9V)
Medieval monarchs gave out land, titles, and sinecures to the nobility and the purpose of this was to maintain loyalty and power. The nobility in turn provided the support and muscle to keep the monarch on the throne. Modern Russia is no different; Putin is for all intents and purposes the czar, while the new capitalists/industrialists are the aristocratic gentry. He gives them enough to keep them happy but also keeps the threat of the whip at hand. They in turn will support him as long as they are wealthy/fearful. He derives his power from them, but they have enough money that they could band together to overthrow him if he adopted policies that were destructive to their wealth or status.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 07:24 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 11:23 AM (M9Ie6)
FIFY, just to cover your bases.
Posted by: KG at April 14, 2011 07:25 AM (DeCj1)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:27 AM (uVLrI)
Just what kind of "experience" have you had? I have been shot at before. have you?
And to think Vic, that experience could have been avoided if she had just told you she was married before hand....................
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 14, 2011 11:17 AM (OWjjx)
The funny thing is he should've known 'cause she was his cousin.Posted by: Ed Anger at April 14, 2011 07:27 AM (7+pP9)
LOL, I did send in my extra owed extortion taxes to the gubiment yesterday so maybe I did have "sex" but didn't get a reach-around.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 07:28 AM (M9Ie6)
Wow. Nice praise. I'm not familiar with the director. I just knew I liked the movie. One review I read said he's just like Kurasawa in that you have to be relaxed and ready to watch, since every frame is a masterpiece and you don't want to miss any. I'll have to see some more of Tartovsky. Thanks for the info, BlackOrchid.
I remember how Solyaris had me so excited to see Clooney's version with all the coolness they can do with modern effects. What a let down.
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 14, 2011 07:28 AM (Je+k1)
He (and the other 4 freshman from SC) have said they will vote against the "deal". I also think they said they will vote against raising the debt ceiling, but I am not sure on that one.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 07:29 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 11:04 AM (5/yRG)
My experience is that those with no experience and loud mouths tend to be the first to blirt out some pointless bullshit. Thanks for letting me know that there is just one more poster I need not bother to read.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 07:31 AM (OlN4e)
Hey Monty.
Has Krauthammer finally tired of the taste of Zero's little winkie?
Maddog, Krauthammer has been more than a little done with Oblather for quite a while now. He's one of the few that points out the lunacy of this administration pretty regularly. And I have to give him credit in that he frequently comes up with points of view that I wouldn't have considered. I'm not a big fan but compared to the Make Believe Media, he frequently gives me something for serious consideration.
Posted by: MrObvious at April 14, 2011 07:31 AM (v4UYp)
Freshman Rep. Tim Scott will be leading the 2012 budget debate for 1hr.
Not to rain on your parade, but this is all for show. All that matters is what happens after the Senate turns down the Ryan budget.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 07:32 AM (JxMoP)
<<<<Joe>>>> Yes Ed, I have been shot at before.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 07:32 AM (5/yRG)
Any cop will tell you that the best way to get yourself shot is to say "You're not gonna shoot me!" to some guy who's threatening you.
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 11:09 AM (4Pleu)
Because he's afraid he'll lose face if he backs down from your challenge.
Posted by: schizoid at April 14, 2011 07:33 AM (+Glp5)
"$315 billion in cuts over 10 years versus $0 cuts with Obama."
"Largest non-defense spending cut in history"
Said it was the best he could get and it was a 1st step. The real cuts come tomorrow with the 2nd step w/ Ryan's plan to cut trillions w/ entitlement reforms.
Said he was "very disappointed with president's speech (yesterday)." "If he won't lead, we will."
Ingraham said she had dinner last night will one of his colleagues. They admitted the R's were afraid vs. showing a position of strength. Boehner's response was "look where we are today. The debate has changed. We have a plan." He said he met w/ Obama yesterday and thought he understood...then went out there w/ that terrible partisan speech.
He continued, "I want more spending cuts. Nobody worked harder to get spending cuts on the table than I did. Best deal we could get. Now we're moving on to save trillions."
Laura asked about debt ceiling. He said without raising it, we'll have "true economic meltdown." But he alluded to not proceeding with it unless there were real reforms that went along with it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 14, 2011 07:35 AM (usvhr)
Posted by: MrObvious at April 14, 2011 11:31 AM (v4UYp)
Krauthammer doesn't always agree with me, is not infrequently wrong in his predictions, but he's always worth a listen.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 14, 2011 07:35 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: MrObvious at April 14, 2011 11:31 AM (v4UYp)
I know, but he pissed me off so bad during the election I can't help but rub that elevated nose in it.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 07:35 AM (OlN4e)
I've always been impressed with him. Obviously can't watch the entire thing, but he made a great intro.
As for the CR, I think it will pass. The conservatives within the conference are split because Obama is now talking about next year and some think 2012 is the hill on which to die. As a related note of interest, an article in Politico this morning made it sound like Rep. Jim Jordan and the rest of RSC will be upping pressure on Boehner after this.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:37 AM (uVLrI)
The share of the population that is working fell to its lowest level last year since women started entering the workforce in large numbers three decades ago, a USA TODAY analysis finds.
Only 45.4% of Americans had jobs in 2010, the lowest rate since 1983 and down from a peak of 49.3% in 2000. Last year, just 66.8% of men had jobs, the lowest on record.
The bad economy, an aging population and a plateau in women working are contributing to changes that pose serious challenges for financing the nationÂ’s social programs.
Not to worry. We'll have another Recovery Summer and that will fix everything just like it did last year
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2011 07:37 AM (1Jaio)
Hey Monty.
Has Krauthammer finally tired of the taste of Zero's little winkie?
Maddog, Krauthammer has been more than a little done with Oblather for quite a while now. He's one of the few that points out the lunacy of this administration pretty regularly. And I have to give him credit in that he frequently comes up with points of view that I wouldn't have considered. I'm not a big fan but compared to the Make Believe Media, he frequently gives me something for serious consideration."
Well its good to se Kraut has finally realized that Sparky is all hate, all the time. Now I wonder if he thinks Sarah is qualified? Watching Kraut compute these last few years has raised serious questions as to his mental balance. Maybe he is on some serious meds or something.
Posted by: Charly Sheen at April 14, 2011 07:38 AM (Q5+Og)
U.S. Air Force Survival Handbook
(of course like an impatient dummy, I bought it for my Kindle...where will I get juice in the apocalypse to recharge?!)
Posted by: Lizbth at April 14, 2011 07:38 AM (JZBti)
That's why I'm interested in hearing where the Rs are at by the end of the day. They aren't going to pass the bill until tomorrow, but debate today will provide an indication of how they will respond after the Senate rejects. I look forward to reading about that later today.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:39 AM (uVLrI)
Not to worry. We'll have another Recovery Summer and that will fix everything just like it did last year
Posted by: TheQuietMan
Watch for Obama later this year to ease off of the drilling moratorium, especially if Obamcare rulings, oil moratorium rulings or oil prices go badly. He will spin both sides simultaneously and the MFM will enable it. It will be used as a part of his 'triangulation to the center'.
Posted by: VP Biteme The Smartest man in the World at April 14, 2011 07:40 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 07:40 AM (4Pleu)
You know who I think is the only politician who will actually make cuts to the budget? I'd let you guess, but in the interest of saving time, I'll just tell you: Rand Paul.
I'm telling you people. Hear me now and believe me later. Rand Paul might turn into our One. But for realsies.
Posted by: FUBAR, Randbot at April 14, 2011 07:41 AM (McG46)
From what I've read, the conference will not vote for raising the debt ceiling unless they get real reforms. If he thinks they're angry at them now, they'll be far angrier over that.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:42 AM (uVLrI)
...says Mr. internet tough guy.
Posted by: Your mother, in Sean Connery's bed at April 14, 2011 07:43 AM (fb52c)
Fuck them sideways with a rusty pitchfork.
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 11:40 AM (4Pleu)
But tell us how you really feel. o.O
Posted by: KinleyArdal at April 14, 2011 07:44 AM (i4EAV)
"I look forward to reading about that later today."
A 10% cut across the Government board would do wonders for the economy. That coupled with a repeal of the capital gains tax would super charge the economy. I can only think they are waiting for 2012 to move in this direction. I assume they wish to totally eviserate the left politically before doing this. BTW - it worked for post-war Germany. I think we need to see ourselves as a beaten country starting over. Its the only real way to approach what has happened.
Posted by: Charly Sheen at April 14, 2011 07:44 AM (Q5+Og)
for a good survival manual cheap it is hard to beat the Boyscout Handbook.....
when the DOOM hits your kindle can be recharged with an exercise bike and will be worth more than its weight in gold with the correct data in it.
Nuclear War Survival Skills
http://tinyurl.com/3brnsz
US ARMY SURVIVAL MANUAL (free)
http://tinyurl.com/an65a
US ARMED FORCES SERE Manual (free)
http://tinyurl.com/79ovf
US ARMY FM 90-10 MOUT
http://tinyurl.com/3cpteal
anyway happy reading
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 07:47 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Northwesterner at April 14, 2011 07:48 AM (/Ft4q)
Lethality is secondary to stopping power. Bleeding to death can take many minutes, and during that time the bad guy is busy killing you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 07:49 AM (LH6ir)
From what I've read, the conference will not vote for raising the debt ceiling unless they get real reforms. If he thinks they're angry at them now, they'll be far angrier over that.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 11:42 AM (uVLrI)
And who will be the true arbiter of these so called "true reforms"? That's key isn't it? Will it be the same ones who screwed us sideways a few days ago?
Posted by: Havedash at April 14, 2011 07:49 AM (sFD5n)
Keep in mind that we have always known that the Senate and the Bamonite would not go along with ANY budget cuts. That is why the strategy was to split the budget bill by department and give it to them in a take it or leave it basis.
i.e. Take this amount or nothing.
However, even though Boner ran on this platform it appears that he has abandoned it now. This 2012 budget and the debt ceiling ARE, in fact, the hill do dies on now.
If they squish on these that is a signal to me that the Republican Party is dead and no longer worth supporting.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 07:49 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:50 AM (uVLrI)
I'll beat that drum with you. If I can't have Pence, I'll take Paul. Comma Rand, of course.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 14, 2011 07:50 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: George Orwell at April 14, 2011 07:52 AM (AZGON)
i.e. Take this amount or nothing.
However, even though Boner ran on this platform it appears that he has abandoned it now. This 2012 budget and the debt ceiling ARE, in fact, the hill do dies on now.
Posted by: Vic
I keep asking about this. What happened to this approach? Was there any offical reason given as to why we're not pursuing this?
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 14, 2011 07:52 AM (6rX0K)
Fixed it fo free
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 14, 2011 07:53 AM (pdRb1)
I think I might have to get some freebie bodice-buster romance tripe to counter all this heavy doom-reading today.
But at least I'll know how to skin and gut squirrels.
Posted by: Lizbth at April 14, 2011 07:53 AM (JZBti)
But at least I'll know how to skin and gut squirrels.
Posted by: Lizbth
They teach you that kinda stuff in those stories? I did not know that. Please tell us that it isn't part of the foreplay.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 14, 2011 07:54 AM (6rX0K)
I have a buddy who used to race motorcycles. When I asked him for advice as to which bike to buy, he said, "the one with four wheels that weighs 3500 pounds."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 07:54 AM (LH6ir)
________
And, judging by the comma usage in that middle one, written by someone who's read the constitution.
/rimshot
Posted by: Anachronda at April 14, 2011 07:54 AM (NmR1a)
Part of it depends on the actions of this man and his committee, as well as whether Rep. Ryan (fellow RSC member) sticks to his demands and promotes them. The conference has rolled Boehner several times and they're perfectly capable of doing it again.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:55 AM (uVLrI)
Posted by: FUBAR, Randbot at April 14, 2011 07:56 AM (McG46)
(of course like an impatient dummy, I bought it for my Kindle...where will I get juice in the apocalypse to recharge?!)
Solar panels that put out 5v over USB. They're available in portable form for less than $100.
Of course, after the impending N Korean EMP strike, it won't matter anyway. Best to acquire a taste for kimchi and pine bark soup now.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2011 07:56 AM (sBoN3)
be sure to read Nuclear war Survival Skills, it has data on how to use an exercise bike for a generator if I recall correctly.....
fact is most of the army skills I learned I had already been exposed to in the Boyscouts....
if it comes down to it the US has plenty of resources to rebuild with.....
just getting away from the NBA Celebratory riot Squad to be the one left alive to rebuild is the key.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 07:58 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Lizbth at April 14, 2011 11:38 AM (JZBti)
I've also seen hand-crank models with built-in radios and flashlights and all sorts of bells and whistles.
Posted by: blue star at April 14, 2011 07:58 AM (4OCrT)
YouTube Comedian Gets Two Months In Prison After Appearing To Sing Dirty Sex Song To Kids
“The footage of the children was recorded in January when Emory performed a clean song for the class. It was only later that Emory returned to the empty classroom to record a vulgar song, which he edited with clips of the children and posted to YouTube in mid-February.
On Tuesday, Judge William C. Marietti of the Muskegon County 14th Circuit Court sentenced Emory under a previously arranged plea deal to 60 days in jail, two years probation, 200 hours of community service, mandatory counseling and fines and costs. And when he emerges from jail, Emory can’t be within 500 feet of children under the age of 17. All for a comedy attempt gone awry.”
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 07:58 AM (penCf)
Raising the debt ceiling is a lot like the heroin addict 'needing' just one more shot before actually trying to quit. The IMF attempted an intervention but Obama insists we have Tiger Blood.
I'm firmly in Camp Doom these days. The interesting questions involve how our government is going to try to obfuscate and bully its way around the natural autostop features of spiraling government debt. They already lie about inflation and have the banks loaning all their money to the US Government while claiming the banks aren't loaning period.
Posted by: Beagle at April 14, 2011 07:59 AM (sOtz/)
I keep asking about this. What happened to this approach? Was there any offical reason given as to why we're not pursuing this?
I don't know about this budget deal bill but Rogers has not yet touched the 2012 budget. He has specific amounts which are going to be voted-on tomorrow, and if those pass he will then have to appropriate at those levels. Whether he breaks it into 12 separate bills is an unknown.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 07:59 AM (uVLrI)
you can shield your toys from the Norks with a cheap faraday cage....
http://tinyurl.com/yg4jlt2
and yeah the solar array is a good idea come to think of it....
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 08:00 AM (kq1lG)
Indeed, laddy. Joe's mother does look a bit like a fat bald man in his 50's, but also with terrible eczema on her buttocks, and preponderance for unnatural sexual perversions.
Posted by: Sean Connery at April 14, 2011 08:00 AM (fb52c)
Posted by: Monty at April 14, 2011 08:01 AM (4Pleu)
That I cannot claim to know, though I think they could if they wanted to do so. I'd also like to apologize if I'm coming-off as a know-it-all, because that's not my intent.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 08:01 AM (uVLrI)
I have seen a few breakdowns on the CR. That one may be close.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 08:03 AM (M9Ie6)
And boney fingers.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 14, 2011 08:03 AM (Z1jiu)
you should buy the novel based on Homefront....
http://tinyurl.com/3ujntrf
anyway the EMP terror threat is as high as any WMD strike....everyone should have a faraday cage.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 08:04 AM (kq1lG)
Ariel Atom, 4 wheeled motorcycle
Posted by: Jean at April 14, 2011 08:05 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 11:49 AM (LH6ir)
True, but if all you have as a .38 snubby, you ain't gonna expand any bullets anyway. Wadcutters are your friend. Now if your shooting full house .357 or better, I agree.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 08:06 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 08:07 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: palerider at April 14, 2011 08:07 AM (vL0Nv)
Obama: Parties must 'come together' to solve debt problem
"At some point, we're going to have to come together as Americans," Obama said before meeting with the co-chairmen of the fiscal commission he appointed last year, Democrat Erskine Bowles and Republican Alan Simpson.
"As they pointed out in their bipartisan effort, it is important to put everything on the table," Obama said.
Obama did not adopt the fiscal commission's recommendations, but said its work "helped shape my thinking on these issues."
At the White House today, Obama echoed some of the themes of his speech. He said debt reduction should not sacrifice essential programs like education and energy, and that wealthier Americans should bear a higher percentage of the tax burden.
"We've got to look at everything, including our security spending, in order to achieve the goals that we need," Obama said.
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 08:08 AM (penCf)
That is the rankest kind of sophomoric bullshit, and it gets pitched by both R's and D's whenever the topic comes up. "We don't want to curtail our spending!" they wail. "We'd have to spend our precious dollars on debt-service if you don't increase the limit on our credit card!"
_________
Here's what I don't understand: what does the debt limit mean? What happens if it's violated? How is it enforced?
I have a sneaking suspicion that Congress enforces it and they can simply choose not to.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 14, 2011 08:09 AM (xGZ+b)
Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) said on the conservative Laura Ingraham Show he is considering filibustering an upcoming vote to raise the nation's $14.3 trillion debt limit, if it doesn't contain other fiscal reforms.
Asked if that would serve as the GOP's "Waterloo" in the 2012 elections, the senator replied, "If it is, then let it be."
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 08:09 AM (penCf)
Posted by: polynikes at April 14, 2011 08:09 AM (uie9P)
We need a damn hardass in that position. Now maybe it would be good to put West in there as speaker.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 08:10 AM (M9Ie6)
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz told CNN viewers last night that the GOP budget plan will kill the elderly.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 14, 2011 08:11 AM (Z1jiu)
Just A Bit Outside
by Daniel Foster
I disagree with his assessment of Boehner as a leader but what I'm reading from CBO this morning meshes with what Foster is saying about the deal. The key thing is that Rogers failed to reduce the deficit by a larger amount this year, but that doesn't change the reductions in spending authority.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 08:12 AM (uVLrI)
Too many go-along-to-get-along types for that to ever happen.
I guess we just snoozed too long. By the time we awoke, it was already too late.
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 14, 2011 08:14 AM (GBXon)
<<<<Joe>>>> Yes Ed, I have been shot at before.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 11:32 AM (5/yRG)
Obviously, you are glad the person shooting at you was not an expert with firearms, or you would be stinking up a grave rather than these threads.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 08:14 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: momma at April 14, 2011 08:15 AM (penCf)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 08:15 AM (uVLrI)
Can anyone tell me where I can find the percentage rates of who pays taxes in this country? This class warfare shit has hit my home and workplace and I need to back up the statistics.
i.e., 47% pay no taxes, etc.
Thank you in advance,
Cheri Beri
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2011 08:15 AM (oiNtH)
She didn't, but I am surprised. She rarely lets anything slip by her. And I agree. Who has ever seen Olyingbastard do anything remotely to suggest he is willing to 1) work w/ Republicans or better yet, 2) take the debt and deficit serious in any form or fashion? There are no indications he has ever done it. Why The Weeper from Ohio would think he "got it" now is beyond me.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 14, 2011 08:16 AM (usvhr)
I don't know how it is enforced, my guess is they will just ignore it. If for some reason they actually do enforce, its not totally as bad as it seems, all maturing debt can just be rolled over, its not new since it is already counted, what the interest is may be a different matter. If enforced it just means no new debt and they can only spend what comes in.
Nevertheless, we all know they will increase it, and it appears we will get nothing for it based on the negotiation skills I have seen.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 14, 2011 08:17 AM (Z1jiu)
That why you should shoot until empty. I find a .38 in a mid-size .357 is very accurate. I keep 2 .38+, followed by 4 .357 in my wheelgun.
Posted by: Jean at April 14, 2011 08:17 AM (WkuV6)
My self-defense weapon is a .40 S&W.
155g rounds at 1275fps.
They will expand.
My .45ACP is loaded with 185g at 1150fps, just in case.
Put down the cute little .44 Special and pick up a man's pistol.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 08:18 AM (LH6ir)
Laura Ingraham also had Jim Demint (R-awesomesauce) on this morning. She aptly suggested that the '12 budget and the debt ceiling is, quite possibly, the Republicans' Waterloo.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 14, 2011 08:18 AM (usvhr)
Posted by: joncelli at April 14, 2011 08:18 AM (RD7QR)
Put down the cute little .44 Special and pick up a man's pistol.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 14, 2011 12:18 PM (LH6ir)
The twenty or so drunken white trash rednecks mounted on atv's and intent on kicking my ass I ran off my property last year with it didn'nt seem to think it was cute. Being able to see those big bullets in the cyl. seem to have a sobering effect.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 08:24 AM (OlN4e)
The Indonesian did the same exact thing to you in that ObamaCare zombification summit. THE SAME EXACT THING!!" And now Ryan is surprised and shocked that the Indonesian did it again? I don't know how much dumber someone can be.
I honestly don't think Ryan is that dumb - remember, this is Kabuki theater..... Ryan is saying this for public consumption only - he has to appear open to Toonces and his lies/destruction.
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2011 08:26 AM (oiNtH)
<<<<Joe>>>> Yes Ed, I have been shot at before.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 11:32 AM (5/yRG)
............................
i have been shot at by an old guy abont 90 years old with a shotgun............. i was young and my buddy's and i were in his field and stealings his watermelons............ i think he shot over our heads, but we didnt do it again.
Posted by: Racefan at April 14, 2011 08:27 AM (2gCJN)
The twenty or so drunken white trash rednecks mounted on atv's and intent on kicking my ass I ran off my property last year with it didn'nt seem to think it was cute. Being able to see those big bullets in the cyl. seem to have a sobering effect.
That there is Honey Badger Hot!
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2011 08:27 AM (oiNtH)
Let me be clear, people. We simply cannot afford to allow the rich among us to swim in their ill-gotten gains while the economy languishes for lack of stimulating investments in high-speed rail. Now, let's roll back those tax cuts and roll out the railroad track. All aboard for prosperity!
And, somebody wake Joe up.
Posted by: Jugears Obummer at April 14, 2011 08:28 AM (mQMnK)
The only thing I know about the debt ceiling is that the same people who are screaming, "OMG economic collapse if we don't raise it!!1" were screaming the same thing before the 1st vote on TARP. I've gotten to the point that I automatically reject anyone in government who preaches instantaneous economic armageddon if we don't pass the current bill without even examining it.
Heck, Pat Toomey outlined a plan several months ago that would maintain the debt ceiling without defaulting on the debt.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 14, 2011 08:31 AM (JxMoP)
If you listen to what he told Mark Levin, he more thought that Obama was going to triangulate but still reject his plan. So he never said that Obama was going to embrace his plan, just that they were all told Obama was going to offer an SS plan and other plans. That's not the same thing.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 08:35 AM (uVLrI)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 08:47 AM (uVLrI)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 14, 2011 08:49 AM (uVLrI)
The twenty or so drunken white trash rednecks mounted on atv's and intent on kicking my ass I ran off my property last year with it didn'nt seem to think it was cute. Being able to see those big bullets in the cyl. seem to have a sobering effect.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 12:24 PM (OlN4e)
Curious as to why they were intent on kicking your ass? Sounds like a bad re enactment of the road warrior.
Posted by: Red Shirt at April 14, 2011 08:52 AM (FIDMq)
"Mr. ObamaÂ’s speech was excellent not only for its content but also because he didnÂ’t insult our intelligence. " --Nicholas Kristof
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 14, 2011 10:15 AM (0fzsA)
One cannot insult what one does not possess ...
Posted by: ya2daup at April 14, 2011 09:02 AM (0AClR)
Curious as to why they were intent on kicking your ass? Sounds like a bad re enactment of the road warrior.
Posted by: Red Shirt at April 14, 2011 12:52 PM (FIDMq)
When that many of that type of people get together and get good and drunk, they tend to think they can do whatever they want. Well, maybe they can somewhere else, but not on my property. I am god on my land. I told them to get lost, and they seemed to take it badly. They upped the level of tension, so I took it to the limit. Had they decided they were going to do me, some of them wouldn't have been able to go home that day. I think they understood that and decided to take the party elsewhere. My land is in the Ozark Mountain backwoods, so things can happen there due to lack of law enforcement.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 09:06 AM (OlN4e)
a cajun' friend of mine went on at length about how good the bayou was for things....
I reminded him we used cornfields where I'm from.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 09:10 AM (kq1lG)
US Air Force Manual, I recommended it, BUT I sure as hell would buy the real book.
In a survival situation, your kindle is going to die when you can not recharge it. Also the real book has really great diagrams and the book is over sized.
Posted by: Kemp at April 14, 2011 09:10 AM (JpFM9)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 01:10 PM (kq1lG)
Somebody shot a guy off his porch less than a mile down the road from my place. The case is still unsolved after 5 years. Apparrently they just pulled up on the road, about 50 yards from him and stuck a rifle out the window. Game over. There are some hillbillies it just doesn't pay to fuck with.
Posted by: maddogg at April 14, 2011 09:15 AM (OlN4e)
The Boy Scout Field book, old edition and the old edition of the Handbook, pre 1960 are great. The new book is a little short on real stuff.
I also bought Anarchist Handbook, which is really dated, written in 60's, but you can learn how to make things that go boom!
My dad had the old Army survival book and somewhere I have a DVDs with that and the Medical books and Special Forces books on them
My son stole my SAS Handbook.
Posted by: Kemp at April 14, 2011 09:21 AM (JpFM9)
Lizbeth,
For a good survival manual cheap it is hard to beat the Boy Scout Handbook.....
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 11:47 AM (kq1lG)
The Boy Scout Field Guide is even better. It deals with things in more depth and tends to be somewhat retro relative to the Handbook. Four editions were published. The third edition is superior to the fourth; can't say anything about earlier editions, never having seen them.
Posted by: ya2daup at April 14, 2011 09:25 AM (FcKXR)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 01:10 PM (kq1lG)
Swamps are better. Gators, catfish, and eels don't leave much.
Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2011 09:39 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 09:42 AM (kq1lG)
<<<<Janes' Husband Joe>>>>> Which one of you revolutionary tubthumpers is going to be the first to cast lead?
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 11:04 AM (5/yRG)
That was a pretty damned ironic speech, when you consider that it was basically waving his dick at people he was calling dick-wavers.
Had a lot of experience with revolutions, or is this "TV Movie Experience," 'cause yeah, that happens all the time in TV movies.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2011 09:58 AM (bxiXv)
LOL! I haven't had so much fun reading a thread here in a long time. Looks like my husband got a few people a bit hot while I was away (and yes, he did it on purpose...just to see what would happen; looks like it worked).
For the record: Phoenixgirl, my husband has as much right to this keyboard as I do, or anybody else in my house.
Lemmiwinks, no, I'm not 50 yet, or a guy (last I checked) or bald (that would be a bummer)...but I've never said I was anything more than what I am (which is a long way from 20) and I have never hinted that I wanted to do sex with anyone here (I'm a married woman).
And yes, my husband has been shot at -- and a good thing all the folks weren't expert riflemen; of course, not many Iraqis, Somalis, etc. usually are. (which I'm thankful for).
Plus, my husband does have a point about all the talk: folks, you are scare talking yourselves into a tizzy with things that are not here yet (and nobody knows the future). It isn't helping you, and yeah, I can see where it's doing the opposite. Is there rioting and murder in the streets? Are you and your children swelling up and dying from hunger right now? Are union thugs dragging you from your homes and assaulting you ? No, so try to calm down and think of ways you can alleviate that IF it should happen. (I mentioned this in the thread below, and I'll add: there are people in this world who do have to greet this everyday; you aren't even close to being in their shoes, so count what you have going for you instead of what you don't have anymore or what you think you might not have in the future -- leaven your "Doom!" a little...for your sakes and everyone else's). **And yeah, unless you mean to take up arms yourselves and get out there and do it, don't talk like that -- you're doing exactly what Nancy and Co. want you to do when engaging in that sort of thing.
Just an observation.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 14, 2011 10:16 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: HappyGoLucky at April 14, 2011 11:07 AM (be5IN)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 14, 2011 11:24 AM (kq1lG)
Also, the "stirring up shit" portion sabotages people who actually try to calm people down.
Just an observation.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2011 11:56 AM (bxiXv)
"The harder you hit us, the louder we get," Bessom said, as the crowd cheered.
That's true, but not in the way that he thinks.
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I still play Doom 3 every now and then...
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