June 16, 2011
— Ace Rather than leaving this is a comment, I will post my summation here.
20-30 commenters require a massive amount of babysitting my myself, my cobloggers, and the Troll Busters.
Constantly babysitting the same 20-30 fuckwits represents labor, work, time, and headaches we do not wish to continue.
I had to spend all day Saturday babysitting a thread.
I had to delete a thread today, and then babysit another one.
Behind the scenes, there was some debate over whether we could post Ladd Ehlinger, Jr.'s new political ad, because we knew the 20-30 problem commenters we have would go apeshit at the opportunity for racial jokes. We had to specifically arrange for that post to posted at a time when Andy was free to spend his off hours babysitting it.
By the way, that decision hurt Ladd's efforts, because we published it on the main page past the peak viewing hours.
But we had to do it this way. Because 20 or 30 commenters require constant babysitting and will not accept that in 2011 their old-school racial cracks are no longer cool.
The other thing we should do -- but don't -- is post a clear warning whenever a post goes up that implicates racial issues. We don't, because it would be embarrassing for the good commenters here, to have Ace of Spades HQ be known widely as the place that requires a specific caution against racism whenever a post even tangentially implicating race goes up.
The 20-30 problem commenters wind up shaming everyone else.
Posting here is a privilege. It is not a right. This is a private business, and an endeavor I have now put seven years of my life into. This is the most recent and biggest thing on my resume -- sad and pathetic, I know, but true nonetheless.
I am responsible, ultimately, for what is posted here -- including in the comments. Edit: Well, not really. I sure don't want to be responsible, and don't wish to invite such a legal responsibility. But as far as reputation, etc. -- yes, people count commenters against a site.
It is my job, too, to cultivate the sort of community where people want to join in the fun. And no matter how many times I tell them so, the same 20-30 problem commenters don't seem to understand that particularly nasty comments do not, in fact, make other people want to join in the fun.
So here is the "Charles Johnson" rule going forward.
Are you contributing as a commenter?
Or are you detracting as a commenter, forcing me to spend time I could be creating content to babysit you, or enlisting the cobloggers or Troll Busters (who, unlike me, don't even get a dime of revenue from all the hours of work they put in) to watch, delete, and redact your comments, or continue issuing to your the same warnings and advisories you have ignored the first 20 times they were issued?
The rule going forward is you are a commenter for whom the latter type of behavior predominates, you are going to be banned, and banned for life, in very short order.
Yes, we could all drop everything to ride herd on you and babysit you all day.
But this raises an intriguing question: Why the hell should we? You have been counseled, you have been warned, you have been advised. Hell, you are frequently pleaded with.
If, at this late date, you are still so disrespectful to continue violating blog policy, and so selfish to demand that other people spend hours of their day babysitting you, then you are not to be trusted with the privilege of commenting, and said privilege will be revoked.
Let me sum up:
WE.
(I).
HAVE.
BETTER.
THINGS.
TO.
DO.
THAN.
BABYSIT.
YOU.
ALL.
DAY.
LONG.
We are doing so, however, because I don't wish to squash people's commenting unnecessarily.
However, in order to avoid taking this privilege back, it is beginning to dawn on me that I, and the cobloggers, and the Troll Busters, are spending a rather outsized amount of time and energy attempting, futilely it seems, to get you to the point where you can simply be trusted, and don't require being watched.
Why should we spend such time -- on your behalf? If you can't be trusted and aren't willing to respect a warning, why bother trying to avoid the last step of simply banning you?
So let it be known, going forward: I'm tired of this particular reindeer game.
Apparently we have a fundamental disagreement: I want my wishes for my rights as property owner to be respected and treated with courtesy, rather than simply ignored and defied, and 20-30 problem commenters don't wish to respect those rights.
At some point a dispute simply must be resolved. I plan on resolving it shortly.
Here is an analogy I used:
I try to make this place sort of like a party. I know it's just a dumb blog, but I try to encourage a fun atmosphere.
There's a lot of beer in the fridge. Generally I put no limits on taking beer from the fridge.
But when I say specifically "Those beers left in the fridge are special beers, please don't take them," and then you help yourself anyway, and inform me "Fuck you, free beer," well, we seem to have a different conception of 1, conservatism, 2, respect and courtesy, and 3, property rights.
I don't understand alleged "conservatives" who will keep arguing to me with their dying breath that they have acquired, simply by commenting, some kind of quasi-ownership stake in this venture, and who will therefore challenge me on setting editorial policy and the rules of decorum.
There are few rules here. I lost advertising on the comments pages due to salty language. Rather than simply ban all salty language, I decided that, for now at least, I'd simply take in less money.
I'd continue letting people curse... despite the fact it was costing me genuine money, and a fair amount of it, too.
Did you know that? No, you probably didn't, because I haven't made an issue of it.
But check the comments pages. No ads. No revenue.
So I am in fact willing, in the spirit of creating a special community, incur some losses of income here. This blog has always had a limited revenue potential, due to the simple fact that I decided, early on, this would be a different kind of conservative blog, for the other kind of conservative.
No big conservative organizations are going to buy this blog.
Because this isn't exactly G-rated.
That was my decision. I did that. I'm not blaming anyone. That's my decision. I own that.
But there are problems, and heat, and diminishments of opportunity I am willing to undertake, and there are probems, and heat, and diminishmetns of opportunity I am not willing to undertake.
And when I specifically warn you off certain language or certain topics, that's me saying, "No, I think I've agreed to enough problems as it is, and am not willing to court further problems."
You don't have to agree with my decisions. I don't require you "parrot" anything. But I do demand your respect my right to be wrong.
Let's say I'm wrong. Am I not allowed to be wrong in my own business? Have I not earned that right?
Must I argue and babysit and ban over and over again for the same 20 or 30 people who apparently have no respect for me and also no conception of the reciprocal duties, in addition to the list of "rights" they keep telling me about, that might run from them, to me?
It's a private club. It's a private business. It's private property.
There are a legion of people who profess to be some kind of "libertarians" or something who wish to insist to me that they have full freedom of expression, which I cannot violate, and yet, it appears, I do not have the right of free association myself, or the right to set rules for my club and my property and my business as I see fit.
This is self-righteous entitlement. It's also leftist. My property does not become yours simply because it seems to you that it should.
So, rather than argue this at comment 700 in a now-defunct thread, I put it all here, so there is no mistaking:
At the end of the day, this is my reputation, my business, and my ass.
It is therefore my right to set the rules.
If you find this to be too intolerable, you are invited to go somewhere else with looser rules.
And then you can promptly begin arguing with them that you have somehow acquired an ownership stake in the business, and a voting seat on the Executive Committee, simply by posting a comment.
Exactly: Johnny, I think, wrote this:
I think the rather loose commenting rules have ended up contributing to more of the same behavior in sort of a competitive shock-the-crowd manner.
This is why I impose cautions and try to keep anyone from saying anything.
Because I know the dynamic-- everyone will try to top the last guy. It's how it always happens.
And before long, I have a clean-up situation on my hands, again.
When I caution, I have psychically seen the future, all right? Do you get this? I know, as an inevitability, Screw-Head is going to go slightly over the line, and then Mr. Hilarious will have to further, and then Dr. Jackass will go further still, and then Guy Who Doesn't Know When To Say When is going to cap it off with something terrible.
And I don't feel like watching the thread for this inevitability.
In addition, I know something else: Almost none of these people will have actually have been funny at all. They just will have done the easy and cheap, go further and further, without any wit or surprise about it.
This is what drives me insane with the cutesy-poo brigade who always wants to flirt with the line as soon as a I lay it down -- because they're creating, whether thoughtlessly or willfully, the dynamic which will inevitably lead to an ugly remark within 40 comments or less.
Some people have a good idea of when the game of I Can Top That should stop. Unfortunately, there are a raft of people who do not know when the game must end.
And yes, due to the latter type, I have to lay down blanket, no-holes rules so that the Guy Who Always Needs to Take It Way Too Far will not be encouraged to do so.
Whenever this comes up, people say, "You must have known we'd do this."
Indeed I did. Thus, the warning in the first place. Did you think I was just kidding around?
No. It's because I could see where this train was heading that I laid down the warning in the first place.
If you violate that, don't turn around and say "How could you blame us?" I can blame you because you are presumably adults and I laid down a rule of conduct at my business, which you promptly ignored.
That's how I can blame you.
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Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 01:02 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: mbruce at June 16, 2011 01:03 PM (Fr8N6)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 01:03 PM (nj1bB)
Althouse's big advantage: Her comments section. I rarely comment here because there are just too many commenters. My comment would be lost in a sea of comments, most of them of the "Me too" variety. And there's very little actual debate or discourse here -- the few liberals are beaten down. You can't debate dozens of people at once.
You need to cull the herd.
Posted by: Pastafarian at June 16, 2011 01:05 PM (AfL9D)
Posted by: bob at June 16, 2011 01:05 PM (TBlUN)
Posted by: Grimjack at June 16, 2011 01:06 PM (4Tzsb)
"Must I argue and babysit and ban over and over again for the same 20 or 30 people who apparently have no respect for me and also no conception of the reciprocal duties, in addition to the list of "rights" they keep telling me about, that might run from them, to me? "
So just to clarify - are you saying that you're just going to ban those trouble makers now, or does this line about "banning over and over" indicate that banning isn't enough, and you're going to change the way comments work? Or was that just a typo, and you meant "warn over and over" and now you're gonna get out the banhammer?
Also, you haven't been banning people for giving you shit? Man, you seriously have waaaay more patience than me. Seriously, you should ban people that give you a headache - no blog is worth putting up with troublesome commenters.
Posted by: BoB at June 16, 2011 01:06 PM (+c0cJ)
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 16, 2011 01:06 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: joncelli at June 16, 2011 01:06 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 16, 2011 01:07 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Bomber at June 16, 2011 01:07 PM (qzoN5)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 16, 2011 01:07 PM (conHb)
Ewoks are fearsome when provoked. Watch the end of Return of the Jedi if you need confirmation.
It sucks that it's gotten this bad that Ace has to invoke the name of CJ. Srsly, people (and you know who you are), pipe the hell down.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 16, 2011 01:07 PM (c0A3e)
Even with a disclaimer, I find some shit ugly and tasteless.
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 05:03 PM (nj1bB)
Wrong.
I do get it.
Assholes are assholes regardless and no, a disclaimer will not rid you of all of them. However, it will for newbies and those that actually read one. It may cut down on those 20 or 30 that are happy with pissing you off and dancing around the line because 'they can'........
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 01:08 PM (UK9cE)
Just start banning some of these idiots if you want Ace, you don't have to apologize.
I think most of your longtime morons are just as tired of these assholes as you are.
Posted by: dan-O at June 16, 2011 01:09 PM (bRLuD)
Posted by: Zombie Reagan at June 16, 2011 01:09 PM (fsptX)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 16, 2011 01:09 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: lauren at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (oWdvX)
Some sites (like lgf back in the day, and most sites nowadays actually) require logins and passwords and all sorts of bumps in the road to commenting.......this site does not, you can join in and comment without the bother.
It's not too much to ask that people stop think before commenting. Unless you're one of those people who likes to stomp all over the neighbor's lawn just to hear him yell at you.............
Posted by: Boots at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (neKzn)
Posted by: Grimjack at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (4Tzsb)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (kaalw)
Race baggage is like your tumescent wiener or glistening orchid. If it works for you, enjoy it. Nobody wants to cut yours off.
They just don't want unsolicited ugly explicit snapshots.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (xqhoO)
Please ban them. And never talk about ending weinergate coverage again. That hurt.
That is all, thank you.
Posted by: lurker_spokesman at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (MarbK)
Posted by: SoCalSteeler at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (8B6Jf)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: YaHump at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (7fJhn)
Posted by: Peasant living under Emperor Jeff's Iron Boot at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (/COcn)
Just got home from busting my hump....
Is this the "give kudos to ace for a job well done/gloat over Weiner ehem, throwing in the towel today" thread?
Well, I'm doing it anyway. Was kinda looking forward to that ever since I heard the news this afternoon.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (kXVgG)
Posted by: MrTea at June 16, 2011 01:10 PM (XjFpT)
You have so many commenters here that even if you lose 50% of those you currently have, you'd still have threads of over 1000 comments. And you wouldn't lose 50% of them by requiring this registration. Then if someone still acts like an asshole, warn him however many times you want and then ban him permanently.
Just a suggestion.
Posted by: Pastafarian at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (AfL9D)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: COJohn Galt at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (ygKbH)
Posted by: Han " I know" solo at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (Fr8N6)
Have you investigated a registration to comment like they do at Hotair and other places? Personally I hate those things, but if its getting to the point of giving you shit, maybe its the way to go.
Posted by: Iblis at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (9221z)
(2) I've never made a racist comment here or anywhere else.
(3) I think political families should generally be off limits.
(4) I also don't think that the banned Michelle Obama comments are really racist. Sure, there is a prima facie case to be made there--and that's enough for you, so fine. But what I really think is going on is that those commenters are merely being transgressive. The Obamas have lived in a zone free from MSM criticism for at least the last four years. Critics want to lash out.
Posted by: Drinky Crow at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (mAm+G)
Posted by: Rocks at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (Q1lie)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 01:11 PM (GTbGH)
Anyone who has spent time as a sysadmin knows there are always a few in the community who just will not learn not to piss in the well.
In a business environment, one just has to put up with them, and attempt to minimize the damage. That is what you are paid to do.
Here, there is no reason not to smack people who deserve it down hard. Life is short, and repeatedly dealing with dickwads who think wasting your time is a constutional right just wastes time.
Plus, as you hinted at before, this policy just upholds good conservative principles: actions have consequences, and whether individuals will take responsibility or not, the consequences still apply.
Posted by: West at June 16, 2011 01:12 PM (1Rgee)
Posted by: Popcorn at June 16, 2011 01:12 PM (/D7mN)
Posted by: tuntavernderelict at June 16, 2011 01:12 PM (itsfI)
'Cause that was some racist stuff, man, with huge backfire potential. Think the "hicks" ad in WV.
In what reality did Ladd think that was okay to film, much less display?
Posted by: Lou at June 16, 2011 01:12 PM (PAd2V)
Fun to watch, though it must be difficult for you, Ace.
I think you're a great writer, for what it's worth.
Posted by: Mr. Lips at June 16, 2011 01:12 PM (bFNQb)
So.....
Guess I missed the party?
Ace's Blog, Ace's Rules. One of the reasons I come here is for the comment section, and for the off chance off making Andrew Breitbart laugh. It's not easy herding a bunch of libertarian "fuck you I'll think and say what I want" types, so you have my respect Ace.
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2011 01:13 PM (NCw5u)
Posted by: Robin at June 16, 2011 01:13 PM (6uXZa)
I don't know a whole hell of a lot about the meltdown of LGF. I have, however, been reading Ace since before he started this blog and he has always been consistently and intellectually honest.
I think it's pretty low and nasty to compare him to someone who went apeshit - someone who is regularly used as a punchline - when all he is trying to do - and much more patiently than I have seen other forum administrators do - is maintain a certain standard.
Posted by: MDH3 at June 16, 2011 01:13 PM (CZcCo)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 01:13 PM (HjxoE)
Posted by: w at June 16, 2011 01:13 PM (qc5aI)
Posted by: catmman at June 16, 2011 01:13 PM (DTzwU)
Posted by: Gary Johnson at June 16, 2011 01:13 PM (e2VMT)
Posted by: Joffen at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Robin at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (6uXZa)
I'm pretty abrasive. Knowing that, I have to wonder who the 20-30 commentors are that are worse than me, and do I need to pick up my game?
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Steve at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (o4hA/)
Ewoks are fearsome when provoked. Watch the end of Return of the Jedi if you need confirmation.
It sucks that it's gotten this bad that Ace has to invoke the name of CJ. Srsly, people (and you know who you are), pipe the hell down.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 16, 2011 05:07 PM (c0A3e)
Eh, Ace almost has to do that due to the number of dipshits that keep trying to claim he's acting like him with this stuff.
Its just absolute stupidity on their part. You can regularly disagree with ace on many things and not get banned here. Hell probably the best example right now is when people bring up Palin. Ace doesn't ban them even in the threads not about her. He might insult and belittle the people but he's not kicking them out an refusing them the opportunity to talk.
So its pretty obvious you can disagree and argue with him on plenty of things without issue, and it really takes a lot to actually get a ban.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (oVQFe)
Excellent analogy, BTW.
Posted by: isostan at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (caurI)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: A. Weiner at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (tTvJt)
Is it just me, but to actually post a comment that's too rough for the AoS, that's less about Ace, and more about you? There's a lot of free reign around here.
So yeah, I say ban away.
Posted by: Lee (in KY) at June 16, 2011 01:14 PM (LU3mk)
Posted by: Louis Natale at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (nx4Oe)
Posted by: Penfold at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (1PeEC)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (NtTkA)
hate to correct you here... but that's not "leftist." It's capitalism, sir.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (x3YFz)
More power to you, Ace. Your blog is your property. If a visitor wants to piss in the corner or puke on the host (or, as is most often the case, simply crap his own pants in defiance), that visitor belongs elsewhere. As you said (I'm paraphrasing) in an earlier post, "You want total freedom of speech, get your own blog. This one is mine."
Posted by: jwpaine at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (FUozQ)
I'm not sure the comments that are "contributing something" are necessarily more interesting. Just ban the racists and people that expose you to legal trouble, but please don't ban all the trolls.
And take a fucking day off. You are starting to spiral down the drain. Don't make me kill your great grandfather with a long bow.
Posted by: Max Power at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (q177U)
Folks: even beyond Ace, there are those in the commenting audience- or who might be (Breitbart, anyone?) if they thought for a minute they could post here and not get slimed for "associating with racists and homophobes" or whatever. It's not your blog- it's Aces. But in some ways, it ours, too- not ownership or ability to set rules or "ours" in any legal way, but "ours" like the Dallas Cowboys are "mine," or like your favorite sports-team, company, movie-star, or whatever is "yours."
That is, we like to associate here. We've kind of adopted the place and would prefer not to see it shat upon.
So, to echo Ace: if you're going to do that, please do it elsewhere. I've seen (after the fact) some of the threads where Ace has pulled out the banhammer- and he never likes doing it. So don't make him do it.
And, all joking aside, this is hardly "LGF-Like." I've never seen a blogger more willing actually to debate (sometimes with himself) in the comments. Many of us habitually ridicule him (in the manner of friends, of course).
What's so hard about good manners?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: BravoRomeoDelta at June 16, 2011 01:15 PM (t5wyZ)
Posted by: Randy Marsh at June 16, 2011 01:16 PM (YYaIP)
Posted by: JAFKIAC at June 16, 2011 01:16 PM (D0JB2)
Thank you for letting us come play in your yard and fucking be perverted and shit.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 01:16 PM (fk/lm)
But what I really think is going on is that those commenters are merely being transgressive. The Obamas have lived in a zone free from MSM criticism for at least the last four years. Critics want to lash out.
This. Over-Exuberant backlash.
That said, it is Ace's blog, he can cull comments, and even ban.
That also said, I wish he would do the former and not the latter. I have flown off the handle once or twice in my disgust at what leftist scum have done. It happens.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 16, 2011 01:16 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2011 01:17 PM (mhmc7)
Ace,
Well, I'm usually late to a thread or kill it - but that's something different.
And no, I rarely cuss - but then again having conservative or libertarian or non-Liberal views in my world are often enough to get you fired.
My take - hey, it's your blog - do with it what you want.
I'll say this - I've been reading this blog since 2004 (pretty sure about that) and the comments policy has been loose - which was always part of the draw.
Having said that, there comes a time when enough is enough.
So be it.
Ban-hammer away.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: MeTooThen at June 16, 2011 01:17 PM (Y6TAZ)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 16, 2011 01:17 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Penfold at June 16, 2011 05:15 PM (1PeEC)
I think thats the idea
Posted by: tuntavernderelict at June 16, 2011 01:17 PM (itsfI)
Most of my visits come from Ace's twitter feed now. So I don't even come over...which means no clicks on the site meter, which means less money for Ace...if I see a thread I _know_ is going to attract the racist knuckle draggers. And over the last month it means that I've come over here far less then I normally would.
One thing the Libs do have right is their call that conservatives need to purge the racists. The real racists, not the victims of the Left's race card.
How the hell does anyone defend Ehrlinger against charges of racism when the left has mined a pile of clearly racist comments from blogs like this??
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 16, 2011 01:18 PM (vA+ky)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 16, 2011 01:18 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 05:15 PM (NtTkA)
Dude? You've been to Clinton's house?
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2011 01:18 PM (NCw5u)
>>>At least set up an 'affiliate account' with Amazon or someone like that. People click and buy stuff, you get some percentage. It's fast and easy. Tossing the same link into every thread is child's play. You put up with too much shit from people who should be embarrassed to call themselves conservative* to go completely revenue-free on comment pages
Ace you should seriously look into this. Just add a link in between every 25th comment saying "Please shop at Amazon through this link!" with your affiliate link.
I shop at Amazon all the time and would love to see some money headed your way for it.
Posted by: dan-O at June 16, 2011 01:18 PM (bRLuD)
More seriously - comment registration would hardly be the end of the world.
Posted by: MrObvious at June 16, 2011 01:18 PM (cb5vl)
I need some Thursday night jackoff material and my Muppets Take Manhatten DVD got scratched so I can't play it.
Posted by: erg at June 16, 2011 01:19 PM (91gma)
Posted by: t-bird at June 16, 2011 01:19 PM (FcR7P)
@70 I know right? If your language is too salty for Ace of fucking SPADES, then my friend you seriously need to sit down and do some deep introspection for a few days.
Posted by: BoB at June 16, 2011 01:19 PM (+c0cJ)
Posted by: ontherocks at June 16, 2011 01:19 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Penfold at June 16, 2011 05:15 PM (1PeEC)
People come here and post because they have the freedom to express their views. Having said that: If your views are stupid, 99% of the time the rest of the (here it comes) moron collective will end you.
Guess Ace is dealing the the 1%'ers
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:19 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: MAJHAM at June 16, 2011 01:19 PM (1qQk2)
Posted by: ontherocks at June 16, 2011 05:19 PM (HBqDo)
Long-sleeved shirts and hoodies in 90 degree weather makes Jack an angry boy.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:20 PM (x3YFz)
And besides that, he's funny.
Posted by: isostan at June 16, 2011 01:21 PM (caurI)
Posted by: tuntavernderelict at June 16, 2011 01:21 PM (itsfI)
Posted by: PJ at June 16, 2011 01:21 PM (tybhV)
Posted by: William at June 16, 2011 01:21 PM (77TeU)
Posted by: Popcorn at June 16, 2011 01:21 PM (/D7mN)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 01:22 PM (y/+eD)
small (war)craft advisory... banhammers and IP reveal likely...
use caution when entering the information highway
* (asshole-ish posts per second)
Posted by: Accubit Internet Storm Center at June 16, 2011 01:22 PM (KmaPQ)
As much as we would like it to be different, there is a fundamental law in the universe:
If 100 is the average IQ, then 50% of the population is walking around with only 2 digits.
Morons (not the average HOSHQ reader, but the certifiable morons) exist in society. Unfortunately, every once in a while, two morons get together and create a whole new gaggle of little morons that grow up to be big pain in the ass morons.
No amount of counseling, prodding, warning, excoriating, etc. will change them. They are morons. Plain and simple.
Ban away.
Posted by: Ghost of John Brown at June 16, 2011 01:22 PM (S1WFd)
I always thought posting on a blog was like being invited into someones home.
They set the tempo and theme of the party.
I watch the end tables. If there is a Bible on it, I can assume certain rules until proven otherwise. If I see a gallon of Anal lube, I also have decisions to make.
Some of this too. I wouldn';t call it "thread babysitting", but rather thread pace-setting.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 16, 2011 01:23 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Randy Marsh at June 16, 2011 01:23 PM (YYaIP)
I shop at Amazon all the time and would love to see some money headed your way for it.
Amen to that. I'd buy all my kindle books through this site. It would help offset your losses as a result of no ads in the comment section.
Maybe put an Amazon widget up on the side of the blog.
It'd be a little more money for your Tastey Cake habit.
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 01:24 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at June 16, 2011 01:24 PM (LXPet)
I think the rather loose commenting rules have ended up contributing to more of the same behavior in sort of a competitive shock-the-crowd manner.
The move towards a stricter comment policy should clean it up a lot.
P.S., Stop punching down.
Posted by: Johnny at June 16, 2011 05:17 PM (mhmc7)
Dammit! You so stole that!
Posted by: That Guy at June 16, 2011 01:24 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: kanyewest at June 16, 2011 01:24 PM (wZSGd)
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 01:24 PM (veQda)
Ace, your site, your rules ... maybe just close comments on any post that gets one out of line comment (bad being defined by you and your admins) ...
or close comments on certain posts that are sure to attract this sort of nonsense ...
yes, this gives power to those that would abuse ... banning would seem to be the only safe option ...
Posted by: Jeff at June 16, 2011 01:24 PM (A3tpD)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at June 16, 2011 05:24 PM (LXPet)
Like hippies love stupid.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:25 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 01:25 PM (veQda)
Posted by: Fritz at June 16, 2011 01:25 PM (p2IBw)
Posted by: t-bird at June 16, 2011 01:25 PM (FcR7P)
You'll get people like LGF's lackey or an Axelrod troll who will post an offensive post at 3am and then turn around and point it as an example of your secret racist agenda or whatever they want to accuse you ov.
The blog was gradually getting more popular, but as a mover on a major news story, it's hit a new plateau. More bitches, more problems, as they say. Fortunately, Breitbart will still continue to take much of the frontline fire and he has an operation that can endure it.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 16, 2011 01:25 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: The Longer Hunter at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (WSdOA)
Posted by: PaleRider at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: joncelli at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Katemaclaren at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (77jaH)
Hey y'all...c'mon over.
I'm serious now.
I'll let you say anything you want in the comments section.
Please...
Posted by: S'moron's New Blog at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (l30lK)
Posted by: Penfold at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (1PeEC)
hate to correct you here... but that's not "leftist." It's capitalism, sir.
Wow. How does "I can pee on your sofa if I want to, and don't you dare throw me out for it" translate as "capitalism"?
Now, "Sir, I wish to buy your sofa so I can pee on it," well, that's another story. But that's not what's going on here.
Good on you, Ace.
Posted by: Joanna at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (cjhzU)
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (veQda)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 01:26 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Bob Saget rides the short bus at June 16, 2011 01:27 PM (F/4zf)
I think it is weird how some commenters are giving Ace advice.
I never read where he asked for it.
Posted by: SnowSun at June 16, 2011 01:27 PM (UAUr6)
Posted by: Another Douchebag Who Thinks Ace Needs His Advice at June 16, 2011 01:27 PM (KmaPQ)
Posted by: w at June 16, 2011 01:27 PM (qc5aI)
Allows you to keep the assholes out permanently, and will also cut down on that comment spam that pixie misa can't seem to do shit about. Maybe then she could make it so posting a link wouldn't be such a fucking nightmare for everyone BUT spammers.
Posted by: apotheosis at June 16, 2011 01:27 PM (xWk3U)
Posted by: Victrola at June 16, 2011 01:27 PM (X3Y9c)
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:27 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: polynikes - undecided at June 16, 2011 01:28 PM (xECRb)
Fair enough (and you have the Buckley precedent on your side).
But I don't see hate; I see funny quips referencing pop-culture and sports figures. Maybe I'm not looking closely enough, or maybe I'm just more post-racial. Thank you, President Obama, for a post-racial America!
Posted by: Drinky Crow at June 16, 2011 01:28 PM (mAm+G)
I think Ace needs to shoot these commentors down with a long bow.
A couple of good horsemen with stirrups and recurved bows would make hash of a line of longbowmen. Welsh or not.
*ducks*
Posted by: Cicero at June 16, 2011 01:28 PM (QKKT0)
I am "the other kind of conservative" and this is the best place on the internet.
Those 20-30 are idiots not morons.
Posted by: california red at June 16, 2011 01:28 PM (7uWb8)
Posted by: Gonzman at June 16, 2011 01:28 PM (AKlwH)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at June 16, 2011 01:28 PM (epBek)
Having to pony up $5 or $10 -- and again, after eating banhammer -- might encourage a wee bit more judiciousness.
Read for free, pay to chime in.
Posted by: clp at June 16, 2011 01:28 PM (8mslB)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 16, 2011 01:29 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 01:29 PM (veQda)
Posted by: trapeze at June 16, 2011 01:29 PM (Ta+nq)
I won't miss 'em.
Posted by: Katemaclaren at June 16, 2011 05:26 PM (77jaH)
Come on man! What good would it do to pick me up?
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2011 01:30 PM (NCw5u)
Just blast anybody who catches your eye as a repeat pain in the ass. But don't make a scene. Do it in the bathroom where the ladies can't see you. IOW, I think brinksmanship is part of the thrill for these guys. Don't warn, don't mark the occasion, no RIP, just dump them. Seeing others of their kind "dissappeared" might be enough to chill the more rambunctious to the point of social acceptablility. If not, do the deed.
I would caution though; don't fall in love with the ban howitzer. Sometimes good people step on the line accidentally.
Posted by: rickinstl at June 16, 2011 01:30 PM (0AEWQ)
Even FreeRepublic - which was an absolutely awesome site in the mid-1990s - has had registration since late '97.
Posted by: CatoRenasci at June 16, 2011 01:30 PM (b0qmU)
Posted by: lurker_spokesman at June 16, 2011 01:30 PM (MarbK)
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 01:30 PM (veQda)
Posted by: observer at June 16, 2011 01:30 PM (l/N10)
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2011 05:30 PM (NCw5u)
Well, it might add some comic relief to the mix...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 16, 2011 01:31 PM (8y9MW)
I never read where he asked for it.
Posted by: SnowSun at June 16, 2011 05:27 PM (UAUr6)
Ban all commenters that offer Ace advice!!! NO WARNINGS!!
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 05:29 PM (veQda)
ban all commenters that comment on banning other commenters.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:31 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2011 01:32 PM (NCw5u)
ALL THESE WORLDS
ARE YOURS EXCEPT
EUROPA
ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE
USE THEM TOGETHER
USE THEM IN PEACE
I tried the same thing with the apple. Got pretty much the same result.
Posted by: The Almighty at June 16, 2011 01:32 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 01:32 PM (KmaPQ)
Babysitting?
Well....when are going to change my diaper then? And I suppose being burped isn't out of the question is it?
BTW...I prefer a firm moist towellete wipe before the gentle applicaiton of fresh Baby Powder.
Posted by: Jimi at June 16, 2011 01:32 PM (JMsOK)
I wouldn't mind being a spambuster. I hate seeing those posts with all the junky-ass links.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 16, 2011 01:32 PM (1rHeD)
Posted by: observer at June 16, 2011 05:30 PM (l/N10)
You know, I have to walk all the way down to the gddam basement to get the dictionary, right? Fker.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (1yViP)
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (UK9cE)
But I digress. My point is that GO BANHAMMER GO BANHAMMER GO!
Kick 'em deep in the squeakhole.
Posted by: Gundo at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (/n3ct)
So, are these still a no-go? Sh--, Pi--, Fu--, Cu--, C---sucker, Mother----er, and Tits. It's tough to keep up.
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (YYaIP)
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (x3YFz)
Even FreeRepublic - which was an absolutely awesome site in the mid-1990s - has had registration since late '97.
Posted by: CatoRenasci at June 16, 2011 05:30 PM (b0qmU)
Cause and effect there?
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (NCw5u)
I wouldn't mind being a spambuster. I hate seeing those posts with all the junky-ass links
Hey, WTF???
Posted by: Quality Lace Wigs at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (QKKT0)
Vic got me to de-cloak out of Lurk Status in a thread from long ago.
My posts are few, and not always Mensa-quality, but I enjoy the moron nations comments so much that I have read 1000 post threads in their entirety. (yeah, I know, get a life...)
I would be pissed off mightily if the atmosphere in this place gets destroyed by the 10% shitbirds. Every unit has that 10% shitbird that fucks it up for everyone.
A banhammer is no good if you can't enforce it Ace...if you have to go to a registration-type schema...you gotta do what you gotta do.
Posted by: USMC 8541 at June 16, 2011 01:33 PM (sGtp+)
Ace, you sir, have my respect and gratitude, and though I don't comment often, those I do post will always show the proper respect to your property.
Your site has been in my nightly rotation of the blogosphere since what was apparently your early days I'll be married 8 years next month and it was my wife's insane appetite for politics and blogs that finally got me interested enough to actually READ, lol. She sent me here. For about the last year or so AoS HQ has been my first stop after comin home from work one night too wiped to do the whole routine and I said to my wife, "Screw it, I'll just hit Ace, if its worth a shit, it'll be on Ace." Yer the best read in the business as far as Im concerned.
Posted by: Gicod at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (V7wiZ)
Dude,
It's about time. I think you'll find that most here have in the past and will continue to support your rules for your site.
It amazes me that you have to tell a guest, repeatedly, not to clog the toilets or allow the dog to eat from the table.
Posted by: Clueless at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (LyOUH)
Posted by: Vic at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (qBKEb)
So, are these still a no-go? Sh--, Pi--, Fu--, Cu--, C---sucker, Mother----er, and Tits. It's tough to keep up.
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 05:33 PM (YYaIP)
so glad you're dead. Hated you when you were alive. You were never funny.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (x3YFz)
Jesus, get over yourself. Do you hear yourself?
You really do sound LGF.
You aren't really a special snowflake.
Ban people. But shut the fuck up with the endless whining.
Posted by: WhineMuch? at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (QP02P)
Posted by: Arnold Schwarzenegger at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (VAkMn)
Calvary of any type can make swift work of a longbow line... if they can get to them. The fact remains that the ancient recurve did not have such a substantial performance gain over a longbow to make the difference. The fact that recurves drawn from a horse could not have near the draw weight of a longbow is also a serious factor.
I suspect, if Welsh bowmen, charged a line of longbowmen across an open field of any distance, the superior range and power of the long bow would expose how vulnerable horses are to arrows before they could get within accurate range to use their weaker recurves.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (0q2P7)
Q: What are two things not generally common knowledge about this blog?
Posted by: beedubya at June 16, 2011 01:34 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 16, 2011 01:35 PM (PF2Cj)
Posted by: Grimjack at June 16, 2011 01:35 PM (4Tzsb)
@148
A couple of good horsemen with stirrups and recurved bows would make hash of a line of longbowmen. Welsh or not.
agreed and a crossbow would also spill their entrails on the ground like an alien coming out of Sigourney Weaver's liberal belly.
Posted by: YaHump at June 16, 2011 01:35 PM (7fJhn)
So, are these still a no-go? Sh--, Pi--, Fu--, Cu--, C---sucker, Mother----er, and Tits. It's tough to keep up.
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 05:33 PM (YYaIP)
so glad you're dead. Hated you when you were alive. You were never funny.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:34 PM (x3YFz)
Kiss her where it smells! Take her to New Jersey!
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (YYaIP)
Posted by: richardgeresothergerbil at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (dfnBK)
Gotta love the internet. When a guy can't even be boss of his own blog???
I realize that the few comments I've made carry no weight and I lurk much more than comment but enough already. He's in charge here, it's not a difficult concept
Posted by: Trump at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (M7Awp)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 05:32 PM (y/+eD)
excellent idea! You start. Run across that field. You might want to zig. Or zag. My optics are a little tricky so you have a 1/100 chance. Better than lotto, though!
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (x3YFz)
And it only applies if 100 is the unique median.
I do the math, so you don't have to.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (T0NGe)
Anyone redeemable will clean up their act.
Anyone worthless will go out in a blaze of glory.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (xqhoO)
I never read where he asked for it.
Posted by: SnowSun at June 16, 2011 05:27 PM (UAUr6)
Ban all commenters that offer Ace advice!!! NO WARNINGS!!
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 05:29 PM (veQda)
Ha... you got me! Really, unsolicited advice is usually not taken well and doesn't cool the situation. Ace is obviously pretty ticked right now.
Little "helpful hints" when I'm ticked off make me even more angry. I wouldn't want to hear it.
Posted by: SnowSun at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (UAUr6)
Uh oh, somebody fucked up. Fortunately it wasn't me so ban away but please let us keep our socks!
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (UciSl)
so glad you're dead. Hated you when you were alive. You were never funny.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:34 PM (x3YFz)
You're kidding, right?
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: NuclearJim at June 16, 2011 01:36 PM (NaIQb)
Posted by: BUTCH at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (0APJ3)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (k0TKJ)
Posted by: RoadRunner at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (oJln5)
Don't make Ace angry. You won't like him when he's angry.
I'm all for free speech, but I'm also all for property rights...the rights of the individual who created something from nothing but an idea, hard work, ability and time. This isn't a public street corner, it's private...opened up to others as a forum to discuss this stuff we call life, but still a private enterprise. It's not like he's going LGF by banning everyone who disagrees with his politics. He's more like the guy running the 7-11 kicking the 14 yr old douchebags off his front curb for constantly loitering and making the place undesirable for the customers he wants. Those douchebags may come in and buy smokes and Slim Jims every once in a while, but they're still a net negative. At some point, when the regular customers complain about the loitering or the language their kids hear while walking past the douchebags or when he's caught them writing stupid crap on the bathroom walls with Sharpies for the 5th time, he kicks them off the property for good. More power to him...the place gets nicer for everyone else and maybe the kids learn something and grow up a bit.
Posted by: MostlyRight at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (ZG8Ti)
Keep up the good work ace. I also want to offer my appreciation to the cob-loggers as well.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (ENKCw)
Posted by: richardgeresothergerbil at June 16, 2011 05:36 PM (dfnBK)
that would be "primo"
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: stalin's poo at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (sOXQX)
Anyone redeemable will clean up their act.
Anyone worthless will go out in a blaze of glory.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 16, 2011 05:36 PM (xqhoO)
What is this 'shame' you speak of?
Posted by: A Weiner, B Fwank, N Pelosi at June 16, 2011 01:37 PM (UciSl)
Posted by: richardgeresothergerbil at June 16, 2011 05:36 PM (dfnBK)
that would be "primo"
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:37 PM (x3YFz)
...and you're lookin' at it, hoss.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:38 PM (x3YFz)
Are you trying to poke the ewok?
I think he's being more than fair, and you're complaining that he's "whining." How about this? Don't like his posts? Then don't read them.
As the man said- it's his party, and he can post if he wants to.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 16, 2011 01:38 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: alexthedude at June 16, 2011 01:38 PM (veQda)
LOL, you don't remember what the post was about do you? I'll try to post some more like it. We like to get the lurkers out posting.
Posted by: Vic at June 16, 2011 01:38 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 01:39 PM (I30wK)
If you can't respect The Head Motherfucker In Charge then receive his wrath and surely your bloody severed heads will festoon his halls.
Posted by: Darth Rove at June 16, 2011 01:39 PM (GfYt/)
Dude, your blog, your rules. You pay the bills on the site. Due what you gotta do to keep this they way you've always had it and the way you like it. no one else likes it FOAD, the rest of us like it they way Ace has been running it.
Posted by: Janir at June 16, 2011 01:39 PM (HOjYi)
Posted by: karenmarie at June 16, 2011 01:39 PM (tRepu)
so glad you're dead. Hated you when you were alive. You were never funny.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:34 PM (x3YFz)
You're kidding, right?
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 05:36 PM (UK9cE)
Nope. George Carlin = liberal commie shitbag to the core. Hated him since I first heard him at 12 years old. Cheered the day he died.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:39 PM (x3YFz)
@214 Posted by: A Weiner, B Fwank, N Pelosi at June 16, 2011 05:37 PM (UciSl)
See, a tasteful yet funny sock. This is whats at stake people. Keep it together or we might lose this.
Posted by: Jollyroger at June 16, 2011 01:39 PM (NCw5u)
What I saw was a lot of posts from early joiners threatening edgy newcomers with the banhammer, or at least urging them to conform. Am I making too much of it? Probably. But I got a sense of "this is our furniture, and you're wearing jeans, so don't even try to sit here" kind of vibe. It wasn't anywhere near the "Damn, son! That was Jim Crow racism and you should tone it down a bit" thing Ace seems to be going for here.
I didn't even bother to post a comment, and for some reason, I don't even bother to lurk there.
Maybe I'm just not a joiner. But I think most of us can smell cliquishness a mile away, and don't want that. Self-selection is good. And "groupthink" isn't think, at all.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 01:39 PM (KmaPQ)
Posted by: Racists for Sale at June 16, 2011 01:40 PM (GTbGH)
As the man said- it's his party, and he can post if he wants to.
And you don't own him; he's not just one of your many toys...
Posted by: Lesley Gore at June 16, 2011 01:40 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Victrola at June 16, 2011 05:27 PM (X3Y9c)
This.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 16, 2011 01:40 PM (PF2Cj)
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:40 PM (YYaIP)
"I think it is weird how some commenters are giving Ace advice.I never read where he asked for it.Posted by: SnowSun "
Are you just a natural contrarian, or a total suckup?
Did you happen to catch the length of the post your comment is attached to? Do you think that he was trying to discourage discussion with that? Doesn't it make more sense to simply start banning the guilty rather than post 750 words? Have you been present for the umpteen long-assed threads dealing with this issue in the recent and not so recent past? Probably not.
Posted by: rickinstl at June 16, 2011 01:40 PM (0AEWQ)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 01:40 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: JAFKIAC at June 16, 2011 01:41 PM (D0JB2)
Posted by: Kent Brockman at June 16, 2011 01:41 PM (136wp)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 16, 2011 01:41 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: USS Diversity at June 16, 2011 01:41 PM (RPYjQ)
For the children.
But all you have to say to start recursive humor is "all you have to say to start recursive humor is"
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 01:41 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Maltpointer at June 16, 2011 01:41 PM (nPsZc)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 01:42 PM (k0TKJ)
Knowing he's been in hell for 3 years makes me happy.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:42 PM (x3YFz)
Anyone called dibs yet?
A song for the folks who seem to like poking the big lion with a stick.
http://tinyurl.com/3e3ltm2
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 01:42 PM (2dbd9)
Nope. George Carlin = liberal commie shitbag to the core. Hated him since I first heard him at 12 years old. Cheered the day he died.
In fairness, toward the end of his life, he registered lots and lots of disgust with the Politically Correct (sic) Left. He did start out a leftist crapweasel, but so did P.J. O'Rourke.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 16, 2011 01:42 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: BUTCH at June 16, 2011 05:37 PM (0APJ3)
Exactly, an upper decker is much classier.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at June 16, 2011 01:42 PM (UciSl)
You'll take my sockpuppets from my cold, dead, uh, whatever I use to hold my sockpuppets.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 01:43 PM (I30wK)
Nope. George Carlin = liberal
commie shitbag to the core. Hated him since I first heard him at 12
years old. Cheered the day he died.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:39 PM (x3YFz)
Wow, Ok.
His early stuff was hysterical. And early on, don't think he was a liberal commie shitbag. His stance on Earth Day should be a hint on that one.
Later on in life, yes. He was a bitter old man that hated everyone and everything, but his early stuff was pretty damn good.
To each his own, I guess.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 01:43 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: DANEgerus at June 16, 2011 01:43 PM (e3/KR)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 16, 2011 01:43 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Jason at June 16, 2011 01:43 PM (AZQQW)
Hey, what is it that has my petard and where is it hoisting me?
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:43 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:42 PM (x3YFz)
There is no Hell, just endless loops of CarrotTop playing...wait... I just figured it out...
Posted by: George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (136wp)
Posted by: Guy No One Has Ever Seen Here Before Calling for Mass Bannings at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (VAkMn)
Posted by: The Guy that Doesn't Understand the First Amendment at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (gyNYk)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (GTbGH)
Screw you, lurker!!1!1!!!1
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (I30wK)
In fairness, toward the end of his life, he
registered lots and lots of disgust with the Politically Correct (sic)
Left. He did start out a leftist crapweasel, but so did P.J. O'Rourke.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 16, 2011 05:42 PM (ujg0T)
Wisdom only goes one direction. From lesser to more.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (PF2Cj)
Sorry Vic, don't remember. I had been lurking for longer than I care to admit and your shout out to the Lurkers amused me because I KNEW there were more lurkers about than just myself. (My apologies for that convoluted sentence.)
Posted by: USMC 8541 at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (v3pYe)
Posted by: blogRot at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (A6JXc)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at June 16, 2011 01:44 PM (FnRYN)
I'm feeling you Ace. I usually don't comment allot but just fly by to improve my mood. Would be sad if the insane in the membrain 30 kill it for the rest of us. I say drop the hammer on them and be done with it.
Full. Monolith. = genius!!!
Posted by: BfromTX at June 16, 2011 01:45 PM (wTSvK)
That is my two cents worth in Zimbabwe dollars.
Posted by: Valiant at June 16, 2011 01:45 PM (9/lhd)
I've seen variants of "These largely unspoken rules you're apparently suddenly very intensely attached to don't quite make sense to me, so I feel sort of—and possibly wrongly—unwelcome or insecure or something, like there's a purge on and I don't know if I'm on the list, and you won't explain how people get on the list, you're all 'not knowing if you're on the list gets you on the list' and...shit, man, I thought we were cool" that you're treating as confessions of knowledge that they're not welcome because they're unstoppably racist Palin-American whore-defaming loons or something. Or something. I don't really get it, either.
I do get the "Don't do racist shit unless it's awesome" thing, and "Don't swear if you don't have to," and the "Be nice to lawyered-up whores" deal (though I think you're genuinely wrong about something there (and not arguing about it)). And I don't care if my shits get deleted. I wouldn't put 'em here if I cared, much.
The not logically graspable "go LGF" thing that seems to be happening is that you're...kinda going LGF. The me-and-this-cadre-of-the-sane-against-the-mad-Palintarian-KKK-hordes thing was the public face of...whatever brain failure Chuckles experienced. And you know he was just wrong and crazy and crazy. So...
Quit quitting smoking. That's usually what's wrong.
*This is a kind of startlingly loony moment in your rant. There are approximately three could-be-called-libertarians here, and the people you're mad at aren't them (with one possible exception). Why are you inventing assholes? There are plenty.
Posted by: oblig. at June 16, 2011 01:45 PM (xvZW9)
I've been hanging around here for years because I like to posts and giggle at many of the comments. It looks easy from this side of the tin brain but I realize it isn't from your side. Thanks for the enlightenment and the entertainment.
Posted by: Retread at June 16, 2011 01:45 PM (G+7cD)
Posted by: Darth Rove at June 16, 2011 01:45 PM (GfYt/)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 01:45 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: Meggy mac at June 16, 2011 01:46 PM (lH6z9)
No. You are the only lurker. We insist that everyone comment. We are going to be contacting you soon.
Posted by: Foreman, Commenter's Union Local 6969 at June 16, 2011 01:46 PM (T0NGe)
Yup. The man lost his fuckin marbles early. Without HBO he would have been homeless at 50.
Tons of wasted talent buried in a damaged commie casing.
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 01:46 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: nerdygirl at June 16, 2011 01:46 PM (NuCbo)
Posted by: supercore at June 16, 2011 01:46 PM (bwV72)
Once again, I missed everything.
Like the teenager who goes out of town with his parents, only to find out on Monday morning half the senior class is suspended for something that happened while he was gone.
Posted by: shibumi at June 16, 2011 01:47 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 01:47 PM (136wp)
Wisdom only goes one direction. From lesser to more.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at June 16, 2011 05:44 PM (PF2Cj)
Explain Ariana Huffington.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at June 16, 2011 01:47 PM (UciSl)
Nope. George Carlin = liberal
commie shitbag to the core. Hated him since I first heard him at 12
years old. Cheered the day he died.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:39 PM (x3YFz)
Wow, Ok.
His early stuff was hysterical. And early on, don't think he was a liberal commie shitbag. His stance on Earth Day should be a hint on that one.
Later on in life, yes. He was a bitter old man that hated everyone and everything, but his early stuff was pretty damn good.
To each his own, I guess.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 05:43 PM (UK9cE)
Add Bill Hicks to the list of "I Like it that You're Dead"
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:47 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:47 PM (YYaIP)
Posted by: King Wonderoursful at June 16, 2011 01:48 PM (1vG6v)
Posted by: The Peasants at June 16, 2011 01:48 PM (GGEUV)
Posted by: Noam Chumpsky and Howie Zinn at June 16, 2011 01:48 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 01:48 PM (nj1bB)
"Even with a disclaimer, I find some shit ugly and tasteless."
Oh wait, are we talking about "The View" now?
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2011 01:49 PM (T1boi)
Nope. George Carlin = liberal
commie shitbag to the core. Hated him since I first heard him at 12
years old. Cheered the day he died.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:39 PM (x3YFz)
Wow, Ok.
His early stuff was hysterical. And early on, don't think he was a liberal commie shitbag. His stance on Earth Day should be a hint on that one.
Later on in life, yes. He was a bitter old man that hated everyone and everything, but his early stuff was pretty damn good.
To each his own, I guess.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 05:43 PM (UK9cE)
Add Bill Hicks to the list of "I Like it that You're Dead"
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:47 PM (x3YFz)
And when Patton Oswalt drops dead of heart disease, I have a steaks in the freezer for the party.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:49 PM (x3YFz)
I just don't want to innocently get onto your shi*tlist, is all...
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at June 16, 2011 01:49 PM (d2juA)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 01:49 PM (nj1bB)
That said, long-time lurker what will be hitting the tip jar as soon as I see my pimp tomorrow.
hoping I'm not in the Gang of 30 <<...bites nails>>
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at June 16, 2011 01:50 PM (4136b)
Posted by: Hank at June 16, 2011 01:50 PM (k0TKJ)
No lesbian pron, but how about Elisabetta Canalis, Clooney's squeeze?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 16, 2011 01:50 PM (c0A3e)
How many generations do you figure before evolution would grow your arms long enough to handle a package in arrears?
Posted by: maverick muse at June 16, 2011 01:50 PM (lpWVn)
You know where you can stick it.
Well, why do we always assume everyone knows where they can stick it? Suppose you don't know; suppose you're a new guy. You have absolutely no idea where to stick it. I think there ought to be a government booklet entitled "Where to Stick It." Now that I think of it, I believe there *is* a government booklet like that. They send it to you on April 15th.
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:50 PM (YYaIP)
I always figured I was detracting from the blog because I ocassionaly post stupid shit about golf and boats and my pain-in-the-ass truck.
I hope that's not a bannable offense.
Banninated offense? I have no idea how to use that word.
Posted by: ErikW at June 16, 2011 01:51 PM (T9cS4)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 01:51 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 01:51 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: PmZey at June 16, 2011 01:51 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 01:51 PM (Fw2Gg)
Please don't you know, ban me, I have like, big boobs and I'm a you know, maverickeyish republican.
How big is your butt?
Posted by: I can not lie at June 16, 2011 01:51 PM (7DB+a)
Posted by: USMC 8541 at June 16, 2011 01:52 PM (sGtp+)
If you look at your post, before you hit the post button, and think "Gee, I wonder if someone could miss teh funneh there," or "Gee, I wonder if that's a little to offensive?" The answer is "yes;" delete the post and start over.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 16, 2011 01:52 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 01:52 PM (nj1bB)
Don't post much if ever, but I read this blog A LOT. I like the commentary, I like the commenters (obviously not the 20-30 idjits), and the socks can make me howl.
I was always taught to be gracious towards the host be the party rowdy or not. Ace's house, Ace's rules.
Fire for effect, Ace.
Posted by: X_LA_Native at June 16, 2011 01:52 PM (MtGCY)
Posted by: supercore at June 16, 2011 05:46 PM (bwV72)
I think he's saying that he's willing to take the loss to keep a different blog that people will actually like and comment on and not feel like the nazi's are staring over your shoulder with each comment.
Not that he's losing money. Kinda like how when the government says a tax brake is lost revenue.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 01:52 PM (UK9cE)
find it very informative.
Fire away if necessary, but I hope you are not going to go LGF and run off everyone.
Posted by: SouthTexas at June 16, 2011 01:52 PM (Rmz5I)
you'll be happy to know I have taken your advice and put your IP in a running list of those to ban.
Thanks!
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 05:48 PM (nj1bB)
Excuse me, but I think I have something to say about this...
Posted by: Shop Steward, Commenter's Union Local 6969 at June 16, 2011 01:53 PM (T0NGe)
One thing I do like about Ricochet is that, while you pay to join, you don't pay very much. Some radio talkers like to charge $5 a month. Meanwhile, the TWiT podcast empire is free. Ricochet is about $3.95 or so.
So making it cheap to join is a decent compromise. I'd go with something cheaper than Ricochet, though.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 01:53 PM (KmaPQ)
Nope. George Carlin = liberal
commie shitbag to the core. Hated him since I first heard him at 12
years old. Cheered the day he died.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:39 PM (x3YFz)
Wow, Ok.
His early stuff was hysterical. And early on, don't think he was a liberal commie shitbag. His stance on Earth Day should be a hint on that one.
Later on in life, yes. He was a bitter old man that hated everyone and everything, but his early stuff was pretty damn good.
To each his own, I guess.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 05:43 PM (UK9cE)
My first exposure to Carlin was A Place for My Stuff. I listened to it with some friends of mine (I was all of about 12). I laughed because they laughed, not because he was funny. Granted, at 12, you really might not appreciate the context, but I smelled a commie (commie sniffing is genetic) and didn't like the fker.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:54 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 01:54 PM (136wp)
Posted by: YRM at June 16, 2011 01:55 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: supercore at June 16, 2011 01:55 PM (bwV72)
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 01:55 PM (YYaIP)
So socks can create all the static they want and sit in plain view. The real name of the account will remain hidden unless a user enters his real name into the sock:name, too.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 16, 2011 01:55 PM (1yViP)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 01:56 PM (nj1bB)
That's what I mean. The guy was a drug addicted goofball for years though. I can relate. But he got royalties. And I'm jealous. I have to do it for nothing.
I feel sad that he went from a lovable crazy guy to a bitter, godless old coot.
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 01:56 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: EM August at June 16, 2011 01:56 PM (zeBNm)
The question is, why were you so able to accurately predict the shitstorm of buffoonery that followed that idiotic Ladd Ehlinger ad? I know it was supposed to be some kind of edgy, reducto ad-absurdum, double reverser that points out the REAL racist by making you examine your own motivations and sensibilities, thus seeing the candidate in a new light. But seriously, it was shitty and over the top and pushed buttons that were entirely predictable. Going through such contortions to post that steaming turd is bewildering. Your blog, your rules, your call on the content. I get it. But Jesus, I'm probably less sensitive to racial issues than you and that one rubbed me entirely the wrong way.
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 16, 2011 01:56 PM (+lsX1)
I'll throw Lewis Black in there too.
Does anyone really find Lewis black's witless bombasts funny? The few times I have watched him I was being yelled at rather than entertained.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 16, 2011 01:57 PM (ujg0T)
you'll be happy to know I have taken your advice and put your IP in a running list of those to ban.
Thanks!
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 05:48 PM (nj1bB)
Ace, all I ask is that you just give us first shot at the trolls before you ban them. In 90% of the cases you KNOW we'll beat the stuffing out of them and they won't return, or if they do, only hilarity will ensue.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:57 PM (x3YFz)
But first, you will blow me.
Posted by: Kilgore Trout at June 16, 2011 01:57 PM (r7z4Q)
Oh boo frreaking hoo, sonny! So you had to babysit a thread! BFD!
At least you have a freaking job in Bammyland, which is more than I can say for a large part of the population. Redacted for death threats, and, of course, B A N N E D
Posted by: Lenny at June 16, 2011 01:57 PM (wkj1T)
I thought it meant we were going to start talking theology and bad jazz.
Posted by: sTevo at June 16, 2011 01:57 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: scott at June 16, 2011 01:57 PM (7Mkm/)
Really?
Okay, I may be one of the most tame commenters here (never curse, unless it's a specific quote, try to stay away from the racy stuff, etc., etc.), but the stuff I read is pretty out there.
Heck, read one of EoJ's good comments. If someone has gone past that line, I cannot imagine a good enough explanation. Further, it's not like Ace hides his email address, if someone gets banned, they can email him and explain, "So sorry, I was trying to be funny. I promise to be good this time!"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 16, 2011 01:58 PM (8y9MW)
My first exposure to Carlin was A Place for My Stuff.
I listened to it with some friends of mine (I was all of about 12). I
laughed because they laughed, not because he was funny. Granted, at 12,
you really might not appreciate the context, but I smelled a commie
(commie sniffing is genetic) and didn't like the fker.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:54 PM (x3YFz)
Understood.
My first exposure was Occupation:Foole on vinyl at around 7 or 8. I thought it was the funniest damn thing I'd ever heard. I still think that's one of my favorite comedy albums of all time. I agree he's got leftist bits, but he's got a lot of stuff that's pretty damn funny.
Saw him live in Ft.Worth once. Don't regret that one bit either.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 01:58 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Driver at June 16, 2011 01:58 PM (eXZjc)
Posted by: Mark X at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (ExizH)
Posted by: Hobbiehawk at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (IPGju)
The argument at HotAir came from those expressing a self righteous superiority complex because they'd always posted under their legal names, demanding that everyone else who'd been around for years conform in order to be identified as "honest". pff
Posted by: maverick muse at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (lpWVn)
1. You gotta do what you gotta do.
2. AOSHQ, IMO, is something to be very proud of.
3. Banning people for displaying disgusting manners is not LGF-like. Banning people for ragging on you about supporting TARP and "electable" RINOs would be LGF-like.
Posted by: Ken at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (3ar4L)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (jkSbV)
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (XZWie)
"I think it is weird how some commenters are giving Ace advice.I never read where he asked for it.Posted by: SnowSun "
Are you just a natural contrarian, or a total suckup?
------------ ------------ ------------ ------------
The comments about maybe thinking of a registration system are reasonable (if not a bit too much of the "coals to Newcastle thing". This is the Internet, after all.)
But the "advice" to Ace to "calm down," or "take a nap" or whatever. Almost anything sent to Ace starting with "I think you should" is probably a waste of time for all concerned. At least, in this particular thread.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (KmaPQ)
a bit of advice, stop worrying so much about the 20-30 troublemakers, and certainly don't spend your time babysitting. simply zap them immediately. no explanation required. the show must go on.
a good talk radio host realizes that what is important are the vast numbers of listeners, not a couple of bad callers. if a bad caller, or a boring caller gets through they simply cut them off, "okay thanks for the call - click", time to move on. Why? because what matters are the good callers and the listeners.
same as this blog, what is important is your enjoyment to throw up opinion and commentary, and the vast majority of VERY good and funny commenters, as well as the lurkers. if you find a fly in the ointment don't hesitate to pull the trigger. they won't be missed.
Posted by: exceller at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (jx2Td)
Some commenters get that a lot. These guys don't get that, ever.
So why are they persisting with edgy material they have been cautioned on when no one ever cites them for having ever been funny?
This is when I start to say: Perhaps humor is not the objective here.
Empire of Jeff, or was it Emperor of Icecream (sorry, forget) was making edgy, but funny, jokes a month ago.
I asked him to stop making this particular joke.
You know what he did?
He stopped making that joke.
And he actually IS funny.
So if he can pass on a funny joke, please, spare me the unfunny ones.
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 05:56 PM (nj1bB)
Empire of Jeff is a bit squirrely, but I like the guy. He and I have gone a few rounds and he's a great commenter. He is a funny guy, but like all of us, once he gets to the Val-U-Rite, things get tricky.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 01:59 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: PmZey at June 16, 2011 02:00 PM (pmzey)
Posted by: Driver at June 16, 2011 05:58 PM (eXZjc)
Yep, Amazon, not as much as Driver but still...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 02:00 PM (136wp)
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, “You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I’m just not close enough to get the job done.”
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 02:00 PM (YYaIP)
#306-Unfortunately Chuckie Johnson hasn't run off everyone, there are plenty of drooling crazies still over there.
Ace won't do that. He doesn't ban people for viewpoint, he doesn't even ban them for stupidity.
I can't for the life of me see how some jerks can't stay within the WIDE berth allowed here.
Gee...no racism? You can't make a funny comment without being racist? Then you're just too stupid to be here. Goodbye.
Gee...can't get off the 17 year old girl who got caught up in the political sex scandal of the decade for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Not only are you too stupid to be here, I'd worry about whose Twitter accounts YOU are following. Goodbye.
I only pop in here occasionally, but 98 percent of the comments made here are crude, disgusting and tasteless...and perfectly acceptable within Ace's "rules". If you can't stay within those bounds, you're just not very bright.
Posted by: Nigel at June 16, 2011 02:00 PM (l30lK)
This! Yeah, ban whoever posted that shitty ad.
Posted by: Drinky Crow at June 16, 2011 02:00 PM (mAm+G)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 16, 2011 02:01 PM (6yyVB)
I can't decide if that was brilliant or just a window licker. Well done.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 02:01 PM (I30wK)
3. Banning people for displaying disgusting manners is not LGF-like. Banning people for ragging on you about supporting TARP and "electable" RINOs would be LGF-like.
i'd agree w/ that
Posted by: YRM at June 16, 2011 02:01 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 05:53 PM (KmaPQ)
I have a feeling that Ricochet loses money, though. I think the founders must pay a bit every year to keep it going. I think the money is just to keep people from trolling too easily and they do keep a lid on acceptable discourse. It leads to some self-policing.
But it has a very different character because of that. It's like talking with your parents at the dinner table.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 16, 2011 02:01 PM (T0NGe)
To each his own, I guess.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 05:43 PM (UK9cE)
His first album was a riot. Catholic school and Toledo Window Box were classic rifffs. We still play that one along with the Bill Crosby album that had the "Noah" routine. Funny stuff, that.
Posted by: ranger117 at June 16, 2011 02:01 PM (Dm5Is)
I read your blog everyday. I have done that for a long time. It is my favorite blog on the net. This is probably the first time I ever typed a response. There are probably tons of others just like me out there. We look forward to reading your posts and then go back to doing work, play or sleep........ I think there are like 280 +/- posts to this already. I read maybe the first 5 then scrolled to the end just to let you know when I see responses that need baby sitting, I skip them or barely skim them. Don't let the fools and morons ruin your day. Can't you just c0ck block them altogether ????
ken
Posted by: ken at June 16, 2011 02:01 PM (JMKx6)
Add Bill Hicks to the list of "I Like it that You're Dead"
I love Bill Hicks.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 05:50 PM (2SuMg)
He's dead. HAHAHAHA
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:01 PM (x3YFz)
Every blogger vs commenter argument will eventually have Charles Johnson's name invoked.
He's the Hitler of the blog-o-sphere... oops curse you Goodwin.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 5000 at June 16, 2011 02:02 PM (v5dzd)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:02 PM (nj1bB)
I reject the Charles Johnson parallel.
LGF started banning people for the slightest suspected deviation from groveling devotion. To say that it's the same thing when any other blogger to ban people for any reason, for example for continuing make racist comments after a warning, is absurd.
Ironically, Charles Johnson himself utilizes that type of fallacy all the time: Well-known Scumbag X stayed at the Harrisburg Holliday Inn once; you also stayed there once, therefore you are just like Scumbag X. What a bucnh of crap.
Don't enter that sad lunatic into the discussion. He is irrelevant.
Posted by: Anthony Weiner, Previously Closeted Raging Monosexual at June 16, 2011 02:02 PM (w41GQ)
Oh boo frreaking hoo, sonny! So you had to babysit a thread! BFD!
And you had to foul it up.
At least you have a freaking job in Bammyland, which is more than I can say for a large part of the population.
He made his own. Think about that.
Back in the day, in China they lined up all the lying, scum, politicians against the wall., those without callouses were shot dead.
That was Pol Pot's Cambodia, and do you really want to mimic that?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 16, 2011 02:02 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at June 16, 2011 02:02 PM (h6mPj)
I read your blog everyday. I have done that for a long time. It is my favorite blog on the net. This is probably the first time I ever typed a response. There are probably tons of others just like me out there. We look forward to reading your posts and then go back to doing work, play or sleep........ I think there are like 280 +/- posts to this already. I read maybe the first 5 then scrolled to the end just to let you know when I see responses that need baby sitting, I skip them or barely skim them. Don't let the fools and morons ruin your day. Can't you just c0ck block them altogether ????
ken
Posted by: ken at June 16, 2011 06:01 PM (JMKx6)
this is NOT a weiner post.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:03 PM (x3YFz)
Seriously, there have been things that I wanted to comment on in regards to former Congressman Weiner that I thought were a little too over the edge. So I went and emailed the Ewok and asked him what he thought about what I wanted to post. And good God-Almighty he responded. And I declined to post (though someone else brought it up and it did take off).
So if you're not sure ask, to use Ace's parlance, if you have one of those special beers in your fridge right now? You may or may not get no for an answer.
As for the Gratuitous Commentators, ban them.
P.S. I was going to quote a phrase from The Godfather when I realized it was, in fact, racist. Talk about self-restraint.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 16, 2011 02:03 PM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: Jellytoast at June 16, 2011 02:03 PM (ZLBzC)
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 02:03 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 16, 2011 05:59 PM (jkSbV)
I beg to differ.
Posted by: Robert Byrd's reanimated corpse at June 16, 2011 02:03 PM (UciSl)
Sure, a lot of commenters have been around a long time, but newcomers and infrequent commenters may stop by, see the language and off-color jokes and assume that anything goes. After getting banned, they'll go around talking about how they got banned "for no reason".
And to whoever said it first- screw you, I said it better.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2011 02:03 PM (plsiE)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 16, 2011 02:03 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 02:04 PM (NtTkA)
I never fucked a ten, but one night, I fucked five twos.
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 02:04 PM (YYaIP)
Ayup, that's me. Didn't have a clue about them, in that particular case. Still don't. So I played it extra safe, and didn't comment on that thread.
I'm not arguing. It's your house. You can make the rules as clear or as fuzzy as you want, and it's up to me to either come over or stay home.
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at June 16, 2011 02:04 PM (d2juA)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 02:05 PM (k0TKJ)
Posted by: Rabban at June 16, 2011 02:05 PM (eYRDZ)
When my grandmother used to get on me about something, and I would start to whine or try to negotiate out of it she would say, "This is not a discussion. It is a decision made by the person that makes the rules in this house, and the person that has no problem whipping your butt, if you don't abide by them. Do you have anything else to say?"
Funny, I never did.
Posted by: Steph at June 16, 2011 02:05 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 02:05 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 02:06 PM (Fw2Gg)
He bans for being a fucking asshole. Simple, really.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 02:06 PM (I30wK)
/sarc -- just ribbin' ya, Ace.
Posted by: Jamfish at June 16, 2011 02:06 PM (14vVh)
My first exposure to Carlin was A Place for My Stuff.
I listened to it with some friends of mine (I was all of about 12). I
laughed because they laughed, not because he was funny. Granted, at 12,
you really might not appreciate the context, but I smelled a commie
(commie sniffing is genetic) and didn't like the fker.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:54 PM (x3YFz)
Understood.
My first exposure was Occupation:Foole on vinyl at around 7 or 8. I thought it was the funniest damn thing I'd ever heard. I still think that's one of my favorite comedy albums of all time. I agree he's got leftist bits, but he's got a lot of stuff that's pretty damn funny.
Saw him live in Ft.Worth once. Don't regret that one bit either.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 16, 2011 05:58 PM (UK9cE)
I'm bitter, grumpy, ugly, not well-tempered, likely to be armed, and on-the-whole not a nice guy. But, if you got some enjoyment and a laugh or 2 out of the guy, and it made you smile, so be it. Press on, troop.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:06 PM (x3YFz)
He's dead
That doesn't really bother me as much as your inability to suspend any aspect of your beliefs for the pure enjoyment of humor.
I thought I was a sad person.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 02:06 PM (2SuMg)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 16, 2011 05:58 PM (8y9MW)
personally if I was banned I wouldn't come crawling back to grovel unless I was drunk or something at the time. but i'm refering to the fact that ace has app. narrowed thinsg down to these 20-30 commenters, okay what if one of them wants to speak up and say he's not bunched w/ those commenters and state his/her case?
and the idea of bloggers exchanging emails or w/e they do to pinpoint 20-30 commenters makes me wonder how that process goes about in being made. do they look at History of the commenters?
meh. I see where ace is going here. is genuinely scared of legal issues and sick of certain offenses but i'm just putting my two cents in that some might get bunched up w /some bad apples.
Posted by: YRM at June 16, 2011 02:06 PM (UzBwz)
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Posted by: jwpaine at June 16, 2011 02:07 PM (FUozQ)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 02:07 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:07 PM (nj1bB)
AD: Sniff. Ace called EoJ funny but he never called me funny.
(We secretly replaced AmishDude's regular post with Folger's Instant Funny. Let's watch.)
YRM: Wow, that's much funnier than AmishDude's usual posts.
Lacey: Even I thought that post was funny, it's totally out of character for him.
ace: Meh.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 16, 2011 02:07 PM (T0NGe)
Ah, the Ace of Spades HQ flame wars of yesteryear where you either skip town or be prepared to take everything/nothing personally.
But that was before Federal Cyber Czars patrolled for reasons to close websites and prosecute, for our own good, of course, always with the best of intentions..."for the children" or something ... because there are too many website addresses for the internet. What, online eugenics?
Posted by: maverick muse at June 16, 2011 02:07 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: DOOMED in California at June 16, 2011 02:07 PM (8DdAv)
By breathlessly chasing after comments that might be deemed offensive, you are accepting the premise that the Left is trying to establish with Hate Speech laws- that giving offense is a crime. For the ideal of "free speech" to work, one must be not only legally free to say what one thinks, but one must also feel free to speak. On any matter. By accepting that Race is one matter that must not be talked about in a certain way(by certain people) or must not be talked about at all- you have ceded the argument to the Left. They've now established that speech can be legally regulated- with your approval. Now that the precedent has been set that certain speech can be outlawed, they will continue the assault on speech until "free speech" is basically abolished and we are no longer a free people. In that sense, racial humour, is a courageous act of resistance.
!OUTLAW!
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 02:08 PM (/IW23)
'Cause that was some racist stuff, man, with huge backfire potential. Think the "hicks" ad in WV.
In what reality did Ladd think that was okay to film, much less display?
As a political ad it's not even effective. It's so long, and goes so far over the top in trying to make its point, that one starts to forget about Hahn herself. And it will definitely backfire. The only thing that ad could possibly accomplish might be the addition of several points to her victory margin.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 16, 2011 02:08 PM (VAkMn)
The real reason that we can’t have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post “Thou shalt not steal,” “Thou shalt not commit adultery,” and “Thou shalt not lie” in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment.
Posted by: Zombie George Carlin at June 16, 2011 02:08 PM (YYaIP)
The argument at HotAir came from those expressing a self righteous superiority complex because they'd always posted under their legal names, demanding that everyone else who'd been around for years conform in order to be identified as "honest". pff
Posted by: maverick muse at June 16, 2011 05:59 PM (lpWVn)
I noticed that happened at about the same time they decided to go all in on Pawlenty.
"Real names" are not nearly as useful as "regular handles." If I wanna post regularly all over the internets as "K~Bob" or "Cross-Stich Suzy" that's just how I roll.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 02:09 PM (KmaPQ)
He's dead
That doesn't really bother me as much as your inability to suspend any aspect of your beliefs for the pure enjoyment of humor.
I thought I was a sad person.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 06:06 PM (2SuMg)
Awww. Did I hit a nerve, cupcake? Here. Let me offer my apologies and really reflect on the good that Bill Hicks did in his life: Go Fuck Yourself. And I say that truly mourning his loss. Loss of an asshole.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:10 PM (x3YFz)
He's dead
That doesn't really bother me as much as your inability to suspend any aspect of your beliefs for the pure enjoyment of humor.
I thought I was a sad person.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 06:06 PM (2SuMg)
Awww.
Did I hit a nerve, cupcake? Here. Let me offer my apologies and
really reflect on the good that Bill Hicks did in his life: Go Fuck
Yourself. And I say that truly mourning his loss. Loss of an asshole.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:10 PM (x3YFz)
When I die, and if he's in heaven or hell, if he's there, I'm going to kill him again.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:11 PM (x3YFz)
Just got home from busting my hump....Posted by: Delta Smelt
Delta, is there something you and LauraW's hump would like to share with us?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 16, 2011 02:11 PM (3k6GF)
The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease, sometimes it gets replaced.
Posted by: YaHump at June 16, 2011 02:11 PM (7fJhn)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 05:49 PM (nj1bB)
Ace, it's not a LGF thing. This is also how Ed and Allah drop the ban hammer at HA. One warning if the conversation gets ugly, then folks start getting banned. No fuss, no lectures, no arguing about it in private e-mails between the poster and the host. The moderator of the thread generally never revisits the issue once the hammer has dropped, and it's up to the commentors to play catch-up with each other re: the what's and why's of the banning. And, the other commentors get the message ASAP and the silliness stops. They're very cold about the BH at HA, and no one would blame you for doing the same thing. It's quite effective. If we're talking about 20-30 people, just get rid of them.
Posted by: joejm65 at June 16, 2011 02:11 PM (BDB5n)
If you have to spend more time saying what you are NOT saying then what you ARE saying... then you are wasting your time with words and are legally justified to switch to the communication medium of baseball bats. (Wooden or Aluminum, swingers choice)
Posted by: shiggz at June 16, 2011 02:11 PM (mLAWK)
Please, A Favor
I like this new take-no-prisoners one but it's too long to type in.
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at June 16, 2011 02:12 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:12 PM (nj1bB)
We really need those up/down-rating buttons here. Then ace can ban anyone who rates a comment opposite of how he would rate it. That would be going LGF.
Posted by: Banned at LGF at June 16, 2011 02:12 PM (c45xH)
Yeah, they were going for some lofty nuance, but it's not a forum, or audience, for nuance.
Posted by: nickless at June 16, 2011 02:12 PM (MMC8r)
Also, maybe put in some filters for cursing. I think they have those out there somewhere.
I did notice you were turning a bit into Charles the other day. Cough. Cough. I wonder if this is the natural arc of comment communities? In the teenager stage, they feel like they own the house and defying authority and having a sense of entitlement is cool, etc.
I dunno.
Posted by: claire at June 16, 2011 02:13 PM (x3oLQ)
Upding!
Uh, I think.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 02:13 PM (I30wK)
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Posted by: jwpaine at June 16, 2011 06:07 PM (FUozQ)
move to removable flash drives. Trust me on this.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:13 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Average Joe at June 16, 2011 02:14 PM (bN5ZU)
Posted by: Larry Dickman at June 16, 2011 02:14 PM (4t9J5)
Awww. Did I hit a nerve, cupcake? Here. Let me offer my apologies and really reflect on the good that Bill Hicks did in his life: Go Fuck Yourself. And I say that truly mourning his loss. Loss of an asshole.
No. That was my point. You didn't hit a nerve.
You just surprised me with the authenticity you bring to defining yourself.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 02:15 PM (2SuMg)
I'm a long-time lurker but I never comment here because frankly there are too many people on this site and most of them are jerks.
Did you learn your approach from a "How To Win Friends And Influence People" seminar?
Posted by: A Jerk at June 16, 2011 02:15 PM (QKKT0)
I've only been here, probably since the start of this year I think, but I take it most of what I've seen over the last month or so is unusually bad then? All I know is when walking the dog Saturday, I thought of Ace and thought how I'd never want to run a blog.
Banhammer away, not that this is a democracy.
But Ace will never be another LGF. Charles just went nuts. I actually remember the moment I thought "Wow, another comment from Charles. He never used to comment much. His comments used to be a rare gift, like manna from heaven. I kind of hope this doesn't keep up."
Then Sunday someone pointed out Ace was one of the top ten commenters. And I knew they were not fun, happy, 'I'm so glad I woke up and get to do this' comments either.
Thanks for the great blog Ace.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 16, 2011 02:15 PM (GKQDR)
Artie Lange's on my "I Like it that You Stopped at Your Spleen" list.
I miss him.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 06:13 PM (y/+eD)
Joanie, that's quite possibly the most obscure reference I've seen in... the last 48 hours. You know I have to google it now, don't you? DON'T YOU?
smigginfarkin fookskamiddles (in keeping with the new AoS standards)
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:16 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:16 PM (4KIl/)
Posted by: SarahW at June 16, 2011 02:16 PM (Z4T49)
"There is nothing on earth that man, in his eternal perversity, will not eventually abuse,"
Paraphrase, I think, but damn true.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2011 02:17 PM (ud5dN)
/As Obama put it, "If nothing else, I'm persistent."
Posted by: maverick muse at June 16, 2011 02:17 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:17 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 06:08 PM
Your point is completly irrelevant. Ace, and others, don't have to sit around and sift through racist shit. If you wouldn't say it in semi-polite society then don't say it here. Anonimity doesn't make a racist joke funny. And this is Ace's site if you don't like his rules fuck off.
Posted by: Don Carne at June 16, 2011 02:18 PM (wSNS7)
Awww. Did I hit a nerve, cupcake? Here. Let me
offer my apologies and really reflect on the good that Bill Hicks did in
his life: Go Fuck Yourself. And I say that truly mourning his loss.
Loss of an asshole.
No. That was my point. You didn't hit a nerve.
You just surprised me with the authenticity you bring to defining yourself.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 06:15 PM (2SuMg)
I... I define myself authentically!... um. Was that an insult? I'm offended! Or no. I digress. Fuck you garrett. you win. bastich.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:18 PM (x3YFz)
From somebody who's been hanging here for a long time, it's gotten worse. A lot worse. Something has to be done, I'd have to agree. You can argue about what it should be, but whether something needs to be done is not up for debate logically. Just my 2 cents.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 02:18 PM (I30wK)
I beg you- that way lies madness. It's too much like giving Rhesus monkeys food pellets when they do good and electrical shocks when they mess up.
Shivers.
Posted by: claire at June 16, 2011 02:18 PM (x3oLQ)
Posted by: YaHump at June 16, 2011 02:19 PM (7fJhn)
Civilian semi-auto longbow or an assault longbow?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 02:20 PM (I30wK)
It's too crowded, so nobody comments here.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 16, 2011 02:20 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at June 16, 2011 02:20 PM (fuw6p)
But please check the hash and see if the comment was simple irony gone wrong or troll douchebaggery. One of my puppets is still mostly hiding after the unfortunate Macaca! incident.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 02:20 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 02:20 PM (y/+eD)
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 02:20 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 16, 2011 06:15 PM (GKQDR)
... yeah, sucking up to Ace will probably buy you a little time ... good show, Infidel, now get off your knees ...Posted by: Mark X at June 16, 2011 02:21 PM (ExizH)
Posted by: NICKIE GOOMBA at June 16, 2011 02:21 PM (jeLTI)
deja vu, all over again. A year ago? These warnings. Seriously, Ace provides a nice sand box for folks to vent. But there must be lines. This is his livelihood - he's not George Soros; w/ $ to spare. Who has?
I know. After 8 yrs of taking every foul insult from the Left, we want some payback. Even tho we won't get any credit for being more "civil", maybe we can try to be. At least on Ace's site. He's really not asking very much. He gives everyone a wide bearth. A very wide bearth. Let's all take a deep breath and admit that.
I know. I know. Conservatives really resent being told what to do. It's in our nature to get our hackles up, regardless of what's requested of us. Yes, Ace has requested multiple times, before he insisted. Go back and look. Yes, he "requested".
Posted by: just sayin' at June 16, 2011 02:21 PM (ucq49)
You want funny? I ended up watching a YouTube of Billy Connolly last night.
That's the guy who drops F-bombs.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at June 16, 2011 02:21 PM (bjRNS)
The dude was an alcoholic drug addict. He had a quick wit. So fking what? I've know 20 people in my life that were quicker with a sarcastic response (and funnier) than Bill Hicks and they have day jobs.
Dude was a poser, loser, addict, hippie. Done.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:22 PM (x3YFz)
You described an interesting dynamic that reminded me of my buddy's story about working one of thousands of construction sites he has been on. A beautiful woman walked by and the "i'd eat that full of ice cream" comments started, until it eventually ended when someone said "i'd suck the last dick that was in that." He said it was the most awkward thing he'd experienced and, well, The Guy That Topped Them All moved on from that crew shortly thereafter. Kinda hard to be The Guy That Tops All Shocking Sexual Comments At A Construction Site, so he's got that going for him.
Kinda hard to do that here, too. I missed what happened. Must have been pretty fucked up for Ace to ban. I think I recognize commentors that use a nickname regularly, but s'moron? Not sure that I laughed at anything said in particular.
I try to think before I comment and hope I haven't said anything too offensive for The Owner or the core readers of comments here at Ace of Spades. Didn't realize that Ace pays for us to be able to cuss, so, I'm hoping the more eloquent morons get his money's worth. No telling how much he pays for that. But, there is just something about a great statement, and it is amazing how a well used cuss word elevates those statements. It is an art form, and I laugh my ass off at some of the stuff on this blog and in the comments. So, I need to hit that tip jar, too. I got some birthday money from the folks, so, I think wifey poo can't say too much about "paying a subscription" to my favorite blog.
Not racist? Check. Not threatening? Check. Potty-mouthed? Yeah, a little. Offensive? Potentially. Hitting post now. Bounce back please, would like to know if this kind of comment (said "suck the last dick") is pushing it as far as being offensive. In my defense, really, it is a party with beer.
Posted by: I Can Top That But I Don't Know When To Say When Even At A Construction Site at June 16, 2011 02:22 PM (NjVr8)
Posted by: cardboard bear at June 16, 2011 02:22 PM (Pq1+a)
What exactly are we talking about here, not being racist or homophobic or just generally being nicer to people and more PG-13 instead of R-rated?
Irrespective, I certainly agree that the owner of the site has the right to regulate either category as he sees fit.
Posted by: vermin at June 16, 2011 02:23 PM (2csLb)
I ran/owned a message board that started with a big effort to get as many members as possible, evolved into only approved memberships, to lastly by invitation only, because the bad ones tend to get worse and worse, and never stop trying to get around bannings. I ended up with a much smaller universe of members/commenters, but never regretted it.
Life is too short. Besides, there is something about exclusivity that makes a product very desired. You should consider that.
Posted by: ArrMatey at June 16, 2011 02:23 PM (7xIIh)
Posted by: Bosk at June 16, 2011 02:24 PM (n2K+4)
Good on Ace for cleaning up the vermin.
That said - there need to be sharp delineations in terms of what's ban worthy so that this doesn't turn into that pathetic moron's sideshow at LGF.
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at June 16, 2011 02:24 PM (LLkBr)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:24 PM (nj1bB)
And I get the anti-Hispanic bigotry of your name- you vile bigot.
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 02:25 PM (/IW23)
Don't know how many times this comment has been "me too'ed" in the comments, but here's another one. I'd click through this site before an amazon purchase. I'd just as soon see you get something when I order.
Posted by: someone at June 16, 2011 02:25 PM (bqjJT)
What exactly are we talking about here, not being racist or homophobic or just generally being nicer to people and more PG-13 instead of R-rated?
Irrespective, I certainly agree that the owner of the site has the right to regulate either category as he sees fit.
Posted by: vermin at June 16, 2011 06:23 PM (2csLb)
If you wouldn't say it to someone at work, don't say it here. and Fuck you. because I say that a lot at work lol.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:26 PM (x3YFz)
+/- buttons for updings, downdings on each comment.
Trust me, nobody needs to know what others think of them! It's not healthy. Downdings are way worse than updings. Evil.
And people need to decide for themselves if a thought is worthy. They don't need to join up with packs to cull and enforce.
Posted by: claire at June 16, 2011 02:27 PM (x3oLQ)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 02:28 PM (GTbGH)
Just ban the people who write racist crap.
Seriously.
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 16, 2011 06:25 PM (H0dXA)
Oh... so the honey badger is BLACK and WHITE so you think you get a pass? Huh? MARSUPIAL?? There, I said it: MARSUPIAL!
What's up now, bitch?
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:28 PM (x3YFz)
Best is no buttons. Second best is "like". Stupid on steroids is up or down dinging.
All it takes is someone reposting something at LGF or Fire Dog Lake or wherever, to bring out the down-dinging trolls from elsewhere. Also, there are obvious long-standing feuds, like between Patterico and Jeff at Protein Wisdom. Both are decent dudes on the right, but they've got weird hate-on for each other, and that involves their less-discreet followers. We have a few like that amongst the Morons.
Down-dinging isn't like the real world, where vendettas are costly. It's more like that stupid psych experiment that shows most people are willing to push that button that shocks the hell out of someone who can't see them.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 02:28 PM (KmaPQ)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:29 PM (4KIl/)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:29 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: eleven at June 16, 2011 02:29 PM (7DB+a)
Why don't you let us do the work? Ask Pixie Misa to conjure up a reputation/voting system on the comments. Any comment that gets so many negative votes that it meets some arbitrary threshold that you set is automatically disappeared (or may be left in place with the body replaced with a canned message). It's something to think about.
BTW, I rarely comment here, because a) I'm usually not that funny, I'm sure, b) I'm too lazy to read the 100/200/300+ comments before I post my amusing thought or diatribe to be sure that I'm not duplicating someone else's comment/joke, and c) some threads just devolve into melees I do not want to get involved in.
Posted by: kbiel at June 16, 2011 02:29 PM (LdAWK)
We have a senior apt building full to the brim with old /Russian immigrants. They stroll by often to admire my flowers. One day I gave a bouquet to a lady with a walker. Must have been the talk of the building.
Many subsequently started to take my tulips, snapping my iris, and stealing my peonies. Without asking, and right in front of my very eyes.
I put a sign out with "please don't pick the flowers" and translated it into Russian.
Problem solved.
Ace, you should try Russian should the damnable commies simply choose not to understand.
Posted by: Derak at June 16, 2011 02:29 PM (CjpKH)
Posted by: T at June 16, 2011 02:30 PM (z9Awt)
Posted by: Lone Marauder at June 16, 2011 02:30 PM (/bVuS)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:30 PM (nj1bB)
Did you know that?
Okay, so it's not true. So I wake up at quarter of 11 and post a cat post right off the bat because it's cheap and easy.
So what.
It *could* be true.
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 06:24 PM (nj1bB)
Ace, we don't want to see the man behind the curtain.
In my mind is a man who is four-foot-five in height and diameter, who never wears pants and only shorts in the few times he leaves his shoebox-sized rent-controlled efficiency apartment.
Everything in your apartment is used IKEA furniture, except your steam-powered PC which has 6 monitors attached, at least 4 of which are showing porn.
They glow with an eerie flickering blue light in a perpetually dark apartment that has a black opaque curtain covering the only small window there is.
All of his neighbors will one day say, "He was always so quiet and kept to himself."
That is the Ace that I know.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 16, 2011 02:31 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:31 PM (4KIl/)
I'll be less solicitous.
Well; Objectively the complaint is whole cloth.
LGF banns anyone who doen't agree and idolize CJ. Hence "the bunker"
You wish to ban those who disagree with, and won't follow the rules.
Coincidentally that is the same policy that pretty much every other blog of note has. Also significant is the fact that your rules for expression are less confining and more liberal than pretty much any other major forum. Hence the draw of commentors who like a fast paced open discussion.
Those calling you a mirror of LGF are likely just trying to be manipulative because they know the comparison bothers you.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 02:31 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 02:32 PM (k0TKJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2011 02:32 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at June 16, 2011 02:32 PM (hfWKa)
Posted by: Heinz Doofenshmirtz at June 16, 2011 02:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: NICKIE GOOMBA at June 16, 2011 02:33 PM (jeLTI)
Because this is the internet and that makes certain people think that makes it reasonable to act like the morons, racists and the generally horrible people they truly are.
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at June 16, 2011 02:33 PM (LLkBr)
Posted by: Fresh Air at June 16, 2011 02:33 PM (rZV7E)
Posted by: TendStl at June 16, 2011 02:33 PM (ky0Rw)
Posted by: Wodeshed at June 16, 2011 02:33 PM (LEcV+)
Can I be the first to say on this thread that I think you should reban logprof? You know, just because
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 02:33 PM (oVQFe)
Horrible group dynamics at first until the pack culls out the baddies. Eventually, the bar gets lowered so much almost everyone is a baddie, or anybody who takes risks and is interesting just learns to stay the hell away. Then you are left with a very monolithic remainder group of bullies and people who apologize constantly for upsetting the bullies.
Bad 360 degrees, dingers are.
Posted by: claire at June 16, 2011 02:34 PM (x3oLQ)
I'm not gonna post today because I'm a hazard to myself.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:34 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 16, 2011 02:34 PM (ZeWVX)
Saying "I Am The Law" makes it clear that what you say goes but hardly gives guidance into specific behavior you want to crack down on.
I know that jokes about certain sexual persuasions have been declared off-limits in the past, so I'm not even going there. I would just like to have an idea of what the lines are before I cross one and then throw up all over it.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 16, 2011 02:34 PM (AFlF9)
Posted by: L'il Stinker at June 16, 2011 02:34 PM (int3G)
That's what your problem commenters are like. They have no interest in the blog per se. They've simply found a venue where they can run reckless and someone else will clean up the mess.
Show them no mercy, for leniency only encourages their destructive behavior. Ban the AOS 30 - and do so visibly - and the group that were only here to watch the peep show will also slowly drift away. Require registration and wield the Hammer. After all, you have a right to protect your own business.
Posted by: AceODale at June 16, 2011 02:34 PM (RiW4T)
Posted by: Stan at June 16, 2011 02:35 PM (2G38t)
Posted by: beerologist at June 16, 2011 02:35 PM (w1GaM)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:36 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: K~Bob
Yeah, the regular handles are how blogs first began.
Before CJ/LGF went full fledged to the dark side, we'd attend a get together in our region. That's where it got "real". We met some fine folks and had a grand time in Beaumont. We all abandoned LGF after CJ got his new (back then) moonbat girl friend and became a regular offensive fellow himself. But he was always all about himself all the time, photos of himself cycling or whatever using his blog like a personal diary, collecting acolyte wannabe-CJs. Why bother contesting insignificant non-cyclist horde when what mattered was becoming known. Probably the only reason people could differ with him early on was because he didn't ever follow comment threads below his posts. Threads rarely stayed on given topic, mutating into rapid conversations. And politically, a lot of national things hadn't happened yet, including the GWB initial presidential election and 9/11. And that was before advertising paid to blog. Since blogging went for-profit instead of simply being a fun pass-time, of course everything's changed. That's the nature of business.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 16, 2011 02:36 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Philadelphia's Little Miss Spellcheck at June 16, 2011 02:36 PM (xqhoO)
Did you guys know I wake up 5am to start scanning the news and composing posts so I'm ready to hit the day running at 11am?
Did you know that?
Take up photography. Just post some stupid-ass picture any time you're bored and then go have a brew. It's so much easier that writing something clever.
But just remember: sand, fences, ships and and bike parts are already taken.
Posted by: Chuckles Johnson at June 16, 2011 02:36 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 02:37 PM (NtTkA)
http://bit.ly/3hAv2
Posted by: Lone Marauder at June 16, 2011 02:37 PM (/bVuS)
You are a man of honor. I respect you so much for that.
As I've said before, if you're ever in the Pittsburgh area...
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 16, 2011 06:34 PM (ZeWVX)
Go Steelers!
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:38 PM (x3YFz)
Is it too much to ask that trolls not bring the old tired shit?
Where's ProudLiberalVet when you need him?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 02:39 PM (GTbGH)
Up/Down voting works very well in certain circumstances (look at the Stack Exchange family of websites), but Political discourse is not one of those circumstances.
The real issue, of course, is that for up/down voting to work requires registration (so only registered users can vote) and I'm with the rest of the group that doesn't love the idea of registration.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 16, 2011 02:39 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: JB at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (M28er)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Wodeshed at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (LEcV+)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (NtTkA)
I think 496 should be one of the first ones to be downvoted/banned.
Honestly, if it increases the humor/intelligence quality I'd be willing to register Ace.
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (LLkBr)
That's a feature of this site that most people, and Breitbart, enjoy but you find threatening. So leave it to those who are not intimidated, just because you read here doesn't mean you have to comment. I don't comment often simply because by the time I get here it's all over. Such is life.
Posted by: Decaf at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (XUoX3)
And then the early birds, like Vic. Someone has to keep those folks commenting.
So why bother to sleep at all?
So I've modified my daysuit, and turned it into a 24/7 suit that recycles everything and gives me injections of caffeine. All I need now is some Moron to volunteer to take me out of it once a month and hose me off.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (KmaPQ)
Little Green Footballs, which helped break one of the first big "Blogosphere" stories about the faked Bush Texas Air National Guard papers.
Site owner Charles Johnson has since gone full-on retard, which has become a bit of a running joke elsewhere.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (AFlF9)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:40 PM (4KIl/)
OTOH, is it racist if it is true?
Posted by: Jack at June 16, 2011 02:41 PM (kCT7A)
Posted by: Vic at June 16, 2011 02:41 PM (M9Ie6)
So I guess this means no more longbow discussions...
Refer to my comments above on the superiority of the recurved bow.
Posted by: Cicero at June 16, 2011 02:41 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 06:37 PM (NtTkA)
LGF, the short version. LGF is a blog run by Charles Johnson in CA. He purported to be a conservative during the latter Bush years, but then reverted to his hippie scumbag commie roots.
If you join the site and speak any ill of CJ, you Will Be Banned.
Google it. In fact, Google: "Banned by LGF" for more fun.
He now has 12 hits a day, most come from his gay live-in blogger, kilgore trout. Full on hippie blog nowdays.
If you visit, please disinfect yourself before returning.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:41 PM (x3YFz)
Some commenters get that a lot. These guys don't get that, ever.
So why are they persisting with edgy material they have been cautioned on when no one ever cites them for having ever been funny?
This is when I start to say: Perhaps humor is not the objective here.
One thing: betting on stupidity generally pays off more often than betting on malice. I'd wager there are people on your possible-ban list (they may even dominate it) who genuinely do not understand why they are on there, and probably could never understand. Likely no one on earth could explain the line-that-shall-not-be crossed to them in a way that they would understand. I've learned not to waste my time on those people.
Posted by: Splunge at June 16, 2011 02:42 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: Don Tidwell at June 16, 2011 02:42 PM (OGBPb)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 06:37 PM (NtTkA)
a right of center blog that went batshit crazy insane to the left. the blog, Diary Of Deadelus is a great blog covering the subject, a lot of banning happened when people disagreed w/ the main guy there, Charles Johnson. he's also trying to erase any evidence he used to be a righty blogger. it's Stalinesque.
Posted by: YRM at June 16, 2011 02:42 PM (UzBwz)
This is, because of Ace and most of the commenters here, one of the funniest and, if I may use a perhaps weird word, healthiest and robust blogs in the blogosphere, IMO. But, more importantly, it is a bright shining light of goodness against the swirling darkness that seems to be pervasive. I come here after reading a whole other host of blogs, feeling depressed and angry, but after reading the new posts and comments that are always here, I leave feeling calmer and with a sense that there are still sane people in the world (even if some of them work hard to sound crazy). EWOKs forever!!!!
Posted by: emrys at June 16, 2011 02:42 PM (msqTW)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 02:43 PM (btDMH)
volokh moderates each individual comment though and has a waiting time -- while I'd personally love this blog to have the quality of comments that you see at VC it'd almost assuredly make the comments section here less funny/enjoyable
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at June 16, 2011 02:43 PM (LLkBr)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 16, 2011 02:44 PM (N7UT7)
Little Green Footballs.
Blogmaster Charles Johnson.
Notable for exposing Rathergate and utter hatred of creationism.
Conservative or Neo Conservative until the runup for the 2008 election.
Began a massive metamorphosis and was fully moonbat liberal by the end of 2009.
During said metamorphosis, in true liberal style he became non-tolerant of opposing views.
Noted for inflated self image and for banning any person commenting who openly disagrees with him. Some bannings have even been reported for giving a comment he makes a thumbs down.
He is now full lefty in an isolated blog filled with sycophants.
Currently engaged in the blog wars with AoSHQ, and Atlas Shrugs.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 02:44 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: di butler, psychotic bitch at June 16, 2011 02:44 PM (admmc)
okay, seriously
I'm Wickedpinto.
One time, when I was 8, I was playing with my bro's GI Joes. He came in the room and nearly pulled my arm out of my socket. But it was my fault, not bro's; I shouldn't have been playing with his GI Joes.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 16, 2011 02:45 PM (Hqm6c)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 02:45 PM (nj1bB)
What are dingers?
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:21 PM (4KIl/)
ratings or like-unlike buttons on posts.
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 02:45 PM (Di3Im)
If you join the site and speak any ill of CJ, you Will Be Banned.
Google it. In fact, Google: "Banned by LGF" for more fun.
He now has 12 hits a day, most come from his gay live-in blogger, kilgore trout. Full on hippie blog nowdays.
If you visit, please disinfect yourself before returning.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:41 PM (x3YFz)
I'm too lazy to myself but I always hope someone will get registered there and make disagreeing but respectful comments to him and see how quickly they can get banned. Screenshot all their comments so they can prove they did nothing that should qualify as bannable to any reasonable person.
I don't think you'd get 10 comments posted before you're banned.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 02:45 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Bare Grillz at June 16, 2011 02:46 PM (2dbd9)
hahahaha, not really, fagz
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 16, 2011 06:41 PM (SDW4a)
See? That's the kind of shit I (seriously) hate here. the 'fag' thing needs to end. Sock or no, it's wrong.
I'll save you the sanctimonious crap and just say the next motherfucker that says 'fagz' gets 2 in the chest 1 in the head.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:47 PM (x3YFz)
Some are just variants of saying "black people are bad' and "gay guys suck dick."
one of these is a rude, disgusting stereotype...and the other is a tautology
Posted by: beedubya at June 16, 2011 02:47 PM (AnTyA)
We're (Ace) back where we were a yr ago. This is Ace's bread winner. He'd like to, some day, collect a few $ for his efforts. Cash out like Hot Air. Who wouldn't. He deserves it. He works long hrs, and posts, among the best. (I'll admit that even tho I occasioinally disagree - That's what conservatives/libertarians believe in, right? Getting rewarded, commensurate with our labor. Ace has been conflicted, for years, over his business model. His commenters bring teh funny, but Ace already does that. His commenters definitely add to the value of the site, but where do some comments start to detract from the value of the site?
I know what I'd do, but I'm truly a moron.
Posted by: just sayin' at June 16, 2011 02:47 PM (ucq49)
Commenting is similar to going to a Moron Meetup. Be obnoxious, offensive or throwup on the table at your own peril. Bad commenting=the ban hammer. Bad meetup behavior=the door.
BTW You can't read this because I'm still lurking.
Posted by: PugBoo Pretending to Lurk at June 16, 2011 02:48 PM (20jXV)
Mr Speaker, let the record show no one name under the umbrella of Soothsayertm Corp was involved in either of those two threads.
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 16, 2011 02:48 PM (uoqdk)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 02:48 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 02:49 PM (k0TKJ)
Knowing he's been in hell for 3 years makes me happy.
Dude, you totally wouldn't say that about Rufus if YOU'D ever been there!
Posted by: Bill S. Preston, Esq. and Ted "Theodore" Logan at June 16, 2011 02:49 PM (VAkMn)
If Andrew Breitbart makes an appearance here, I'm posting a picture of my junk to him right here in the comments.
And if that gets me banned, then so be it.
Posted by: Warden at June 16, 2011 02:50 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:51 PM (4KIl/)
Not terribly exercised by this, simply don't get it.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2011 02:51 PM (ud5dN)
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 02:51 PM (2dbd9)
It *could* be true.
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 06:24 PM (nj1bB)
No, it couldn't. Because we can tell there are lots of days when you don't even read this blog before composing your first post of the day, much less anything in the MSM.
Or is that what you just said? I've confused myself now.
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 02:51 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Bluedog803 at June 16, 2011 02:51 PM (XaqaA)
An excellent synopsis, but you left out the total lack of interesting posts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 02:52 PM (0Z5GH)
I will make it worth your while. Who knows, I might be a chick. (I'm not)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (4KIl/)
You could cut and paste the part of the comment you're responding to.
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 02:52 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: bob in houston at June 16, 2011 02:52 PM (v2Krx)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 06:36 PM (nj1bB)
Did you read my complete comment? I'm on your side. Never mind. What do I know.
Posted by: just sayin' at June 16, 2011 02:52 PM (ucq49)
Just write the number of the comment you are referring to before you write anything else.
example:
560:
Just write the number of the comment you are referring to before you write anything else.
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 02:52 PM (2dbd9)
It either makes you look like a noob or somebody who hasn't posted in a while (or does so infrequently). I could care less about that.
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at June 16, 2011 02:52 PM (LLkBr)
Silent, but deadly, is my advice.
Posted by: claire at June 16, 2011 02:52 PM (x3oLQ)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 02:53 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:53 PM (4KIl/)
Empire of Jeff, or was it Emperor of Icecream (sorry, forget) was making edgy, but funny, jokes a month ago.
Couldn't have been me. The only way I make people laugh is killing hippies.
Still, its an honor to be forgot by you.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at June 16, 2011 02:53 PM (epBek)
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (2dbd9)
Sifty, you gave away your age a long time ago. "banned" wasn't even a word then lol
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:53 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 02:53 PM (Fw2Gg)
Not terribly exercised by this, simply don't get it.
It's pretty simple. Most of the time someone uses a sock here, the name of the sock is the punch line.
Posted by: Splunge at June 16, 2011 02:53 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: irongrampa at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (ud5dN)
If a sock is used properly, it can be really funny. The Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT, sock cracks me up every time I see it.
Posted by: joejm65 at June 16, 2011 02:54 PM (BDB5n)
Heh, i remember those, nothing like waking up at 3am and reading Pintos stream of consciousness posts interspersed with announcements of his intentions to masturbate to Rachel Ray that evening.
Posted by: booger at June 16, 2011 02:54 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 06:53 PM (Fw2Gg)
Protip: because he's not a she.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:54 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:54 PM (4KIl/)
Because, I guess, it was so important that some guys showed me how tough they were and how they wouldn't pay me no mind.
Actually, these are people who were so traumatized by their parents telling them what to do that they have to spend the rest of their lives defying any attempt to rein in their behavior.
Childhood is supposed to last only 18 years, but some of us stretch it out to encompass our entire lives. Guaranteed these same people have horrendous bathroom habits.
"If I don't wanna wipe, I ain't gonna! You can't make me!"
Posted by: Llarry at June 16, 2011 02:54 PM (SI/pw)
I put the "posted by" line at the top, in italics (see one line up). And then I make sure that my comment is not in italics. That way anyone who is interested knows where the original comment is by the time, and knows who wrote it by the name.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 02:55 PM (0Z5GH)
Posted by: DebinIowa at June 16, 2011 02:56 PM (pjm20)
Ah, fuck it. Posted by: Aelfred
Highlight what you want in italics, then hit the i button next to the B above.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 02:56 PM (k0TKJ)
Posted by: Gault Falcon at June 16, 2011 02:56 PM (Fdj/x)
Posted by: goody two shoes at June 16, 2011 02:57 PM (ThWsS)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:57 PM (4KIl/)
Someone please tell me how to cite the comment I'm replying to.
I will make it worth your while. Who knows, I might be a chick. (I'm not)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (4KIl/)
Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V? Jesus Christ! You were one of THOSE kids in school!
teh internets is hard!
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:57 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Drider at June 16, 2011 02:57 PM (uJSfP)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 02:57 PM (k0TKJ)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 16, 2011 05:50 PM (c0A3e)
Now there's some commenter contribution to the blog!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2011 02:58 PM (kaalw)
Someone please tell me how to cite the comment I'm replying to.
I will make it worth your while. Who knows, I might be a chick. (I'm not)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (4KIl/)
Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V? Jesus Christ! You were one of THOSE kids in school!
teh internets is hard!
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:57 PM (x3YFz)
And Aelfred, if you're over the age of 60, I apologize. If you're not, kill yourself.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 02:59 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 02:59 PM (4KIl/)
Oh, and ban at least half the commenters. This place is way too clogged up.
I probably still will never post here after all this has been done but at least conservatism will benefit from the changes.
Posted by: John Smith at June 16, 2011 03:00 PM (VAkMn)
Posted by: museisluse at June 16, 2011 03:00 PM (Y3n3D)
And to Sartana and others - what about "this is not your couch to drop trou and take a dump on" is so damned unclear?
Not your house, not your rules.
Think of it like a party at someone's house. You start dropping comments like we're talking about, you get asked to leave. You refuse to leave, maybe the host or maybe the cops throw your ass out.
On the other hand, that shit happens every day, so maybe some people really are to stupid to get that.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 03:00 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: beedubya at June 16, 2011 06:47 PM (AnTyA)
I actually had an opinion piece published in the Op-Ed pages of the San Francisco Examiner (back in the good old Hearst days, mid-1990s) about how the phrase "you suck" represents the deep-seated attitudes toward homosexuality in American culture. Even good liberals who denounce homophobia use that phrase, not realizing that they are using a sexual act as shorthand for something despicable.
I mentioned Lenny Bruce and what he was arrested for: saying "cocksucker" in his comedy act in San Francisco. When he worked his arrest into a later bit, he substituted "blah blah blah" for that word.
We stigmatize the penetrated partner in the sexual act - we call someone "pussy" or say they "took it in the shorts" or they "suck" - because we think of the pentrative partner as representing power and dominance. In reality, though, isn't sucking a dick one of the nicest things a person can do? Unselfishly giving pleasure? I look forward to the day when someone says, "You suck," and the response is a heartfelt and joyous, "Hey, thanks, man! You suck too!"
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:00 PM (Di3Im)
Someone please tell me how to cite the comment I'm replying to.
I will make it worth your while. Who knows, I might be a chick. (I'm not)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (4KIl/)
Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V? Jesus Christ! You were one of THOSE kids in school!
teh internets is hard!
SoOoO hardzz LOl!!!
I hate you, tangerine.
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:59 PM (4KIl/)
I get that a lot.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:00 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: TimtheLurker at June 16, 2011 03:01 PM (78jId)
Ah, fuck it.
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:54 PM (4KIl/)
You get cool italics by hilighting the cited post, and making it italic
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 03:01 PM (z1N6a)
"an endeavor I have now put seven years of my life into. This is the most recent and biggest thing on my resume"
By Jove, that is a cry for help if there ever was one.
Posted by: Gerbil Malodor at June 16, 2011 03:01 PM (XOZXs)
And you try to tell them gently, because, frankly, it's incredibly insulting.
Surprisingly, you prove to be more compassionate and patient than I ever was when I ran a website. I suppose that there are amiable dunces out there who think they are being funny but are in fact and instead causing harm, and are somehow completely unaware of that, but I think that's got to be pretty rare. I used AOL in 1994; nobody knew how to behave. It's a few years later now, and most Americans have heard of this internet thing and pretty much understand that there are, in fact, places to go to do and find forbidden things and express otherwise unacceptable thoughts, if they want to.
AOSHQ isn't one of those dark, hidden places, though. For all its quirks, it's, well, mainstream. People who have influence are influenced by it. It's read by 20-something goofballs who want the courage to lean right, and by 40-something evangelical Christian lawyers like me, and a lot of other diverse characters, because it conveys useful information in a different way than my other daily reads do. I was pointed to this site in 2005 by a very thoughtful intellectual conservative author who got a kick out of it, for instance.
I do appreciate the comments, a la Breitbart, or perhaps because it's a natural human urge to be validated in something one thinks. Every fourth or fifth post, I know I have to go to the comments to see what Moron Nation thinks about the latest thing. I can be reasonably sure that if I want to know if another military vet, for instance, has the same thoughts I have on a particular post, I'll find exactly that, nine times out of ten. It's useful. But if what I find is off-the-charts stupid and good people responding to off-the-charts stupid, then nothing is being validated and it's a waste of time. In other words, nobody's day is made better by having the thought, "oh, there are still insane racists in the world" injected into whatever topic about which you'd rather be thinking.
So, if there is any controversy over whether or not an otherwise good and witty place ought to subject itself to any hand-wringing over whether the Dunning-Kruger crowd has not been able to figure out that there are, indeed, places for them on the web, and this aint one of them, then I would say no, no hand-wringing is required.
Posted by: ArrMatey at June 16, 2011 03:01 PM (7xIIh)
You can highlight text and then use the italics button (i) to change it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 03:02 PM (0Z5GH)
Posted by: blogforce one at June 16, 2011 03:02 PM (hjn1y)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 03:03 PM (y/+eD)
As soon as it was evident Charles was going apeshit over the Creationism folks, I knew he was losing it. It's not like creationists are beheading people.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 03:03 PM (KmaPQ)
Unless you're using a Mac, like me. I don't get shit!
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 07:03 PM (y/+eD)
this is not a hippie-friendly blog. burn your mac, commie!
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:04 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 03:04 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:04 PM (4KIl/)
Unless you're using a Mac, like me. I don't get shit!
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 07:03 PM (y/+eD)
You deserve it, for those awful commercials with that guy in them. Admit it.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 03:04 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:05 PM (4KIl/)
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2011 03:05 PM (69TiC)
Posted by: Half-eaten Hobo from Hoboken at June 16, 2011 03:05 PM (jeLTI)
As soon as it was evident Charles was going apeshit over the Creationism folks, I knew he was losing it. It's not like creationists are beheading people.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 07:03 PM (KmaPQ)
I was banned from LGF in 2004. I dared to make a comment about how curious it was that Charles' pony tail reeked of kilgore trouts man juice. Whoda thunk?
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:05 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 03:05 PM (y/+eD)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (4KIl/)
I put the "posted by" line at the top, in italics (see one line up). And then I make sure that my comment is not in italics. That way anyone who is interested knows where the original comment is by the time, and knows who wrote it by the name.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 06:55 PM (0Z5GH)
Alternately, you can just paste the original comment, then put your reply about 5-6 lines down, like I did here. If you're using a browser like Chrome (which doesn't support the comment buttons), it's really the only way to do it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 16, 2011 03:05 PM (8rHXV)
Since you are talking about banning -- could you ban garrett and Kratos? They are funnier than I am, and I hate the competition.
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And then unban me? Please? I have to bypass my router and it's a pain. Unless I am one of the AOSHQ 20-30, in which case; sorry.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 03:05 PM (0Z5GH)
There's your trouble right there buddy. Safari don't play that.
You're stuck with " " and >>
Posted by: dick cheese at June 16, 2011 03:06 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Bluedog803 at June 16, 2011 03:06 PM (XaqaA)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 07:05 PM (4KIl/)
Bring a machete, 2 hand grenades, and some gum. Trust me on the gum.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:06 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:06 PM (m13yO)
Mayor Mumbles Menino refers to the Bruins as "ball players."
While congratulating the Bruins for their Stanley Cup victory, Menino complimented the men for "being good ball players on the field and good ball players off the field."
Posted by: leftover soothsayers at June 16, 2011 03:07 PM (aNG2F)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:07 PM (4KIl/)
But it's an adorable little white shit brick. It can fit in my purse.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 07:05 PM (y/+eD)
If you're like a lot of women, a mainframe can fit in your purse.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 03:07 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: real joe at June 16, 2011 03:07 PM (w7Lv+)
Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at June 16, 2011 03:07 PM (nj1bB)
Bannnnnoooooorino.
Somehow life has gone on without pictures of tankers passing a Porta-John.
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 03:08 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:08 PM (4KIl/)
Which, to be fair, is how cool kids work in high school.
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 07:07 PM (4KIl/)
The scarring remains, even though the phone company that stole them is using some chick in pink.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 03:08 PM (z1N6a)
Yeah, I kind of went off on a tangent about the VC comments (which have their fair share of worthless/trollish ones). But a wait period during which comments are reviewed could be used - it'd mean Ace doesn't have to pull down posts or go back to delete things. Then again, it would probably slow down commenting and would probably still be a lot of work.
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at June 16, 2011 03:08 PM (LLkBr)
So how come it can be "suck" and "blow" at the same time?
'cause she's good.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 07:05 PM (2SuMg)You forgot to add "hum"
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 03:08 PM (KmaPQ)
But it's an adorable little white shit brick. It can fit in my purse.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 07:05 PM (y/+eD)
So can one of my german shepherd's "prizes." they drop every morning.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:08 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Unruly Human at June 16, 2011 03:09 PM (A5qvJ)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 03:09 PM (y/+eD)
Do you see some icons just above the comment text box? If not, I think you are out of luck unless you can use HTML.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 03:09 PM (0Z5GH)
Just seems like a stupid waste of time, to me.
Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at June 16, 2011 07:07 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 03:09 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: It's my party and Ill cry if I want to at June 16, 2011 03:10 PM (9d04h)
We are the Athens of America.
Posted by: Boston at June 16, 2011 03:10 PM (SwkdU)
Just one thing. The cheerleader photos...please tell us your not going to change THAT! Those are keepers,right?
Man.I seriously love this blog. From the cheerleader pics to the take-no-prisoners,lock and load,belt fed only,take on the political scum running our nation. It's an outstanding mix of information,political analysis,and humor that CAN NOT be matched by any other blog. I know I'm late to the thread but I just got home from work and saw this. Great work Ace and all involved!
Posted by: LeftOverFromthe70's at June 16, 2011 03:10 PM (41pdT)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 16, 2011 06:05 PM (k0TKJ)
Hmmm....I think I may see a way to solve both the blog finance issue and the asshole commenter issue simultaneously!
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2011 03:10 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:11 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 07:05 PM (4KIl/)
We're like the Care Bears with no italics buttons or whatever I'm trying to say.
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 07:09 PM (y/+eD)
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Maybe making a dividing line like this ^ would help
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 03:11 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:11 PM (4KIl/)
So how come it can be "suck" and "blow" at the same time?
Posted by: claire at June 16, 2011 07:04 PM (x3oLQ)
Every single man on earth wants to find the answer to that question.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:12 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 03:12 PM (jeLTI)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2011 03:13 PM (TMB3S)
Hats off to you. I watched that train wreck for 2 or 3 weeks before I asked CJ to ban me. He was nice enough to oblige within minutes.
Posted by: Bob Saget has not been banned yet at June 16, 2011 03:13 PM (NLWij)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:13 PM (4KIl/)
Ronulans and neo-nazi loons can go rot.
Posted by: Kristopher at June 16, 2011 03:13 PM (atS82)
Are you saying good humor is "edgy" but not "shocking"? I'd better write that down where it won't be lost.
Posted by: Aristotle almost finished with Poetics Vol 2 at June 16, 2011 03:13 PM (0q2P7)
A few weeks ago, there was an event called something like "Black Motorcycle Week" in Myrtle Beach, SC. I read about it at a blog and I went to the local newspaper to read about it first hand. Then I read the comments and I found that what I hoped had died out by now in the south was still alive and well. The comments were about as nastily racist as it was possible for them to be. And as someone who has never been ashamed to be a southerner, I was absolutely mortified.
I don't read enough of the comments to see what Ace is talking about, but then again, I don't want to see it either. The people making racist comments should have died out already. God knows, my Georgia uncles, who simply could not use any term other than N*(%#$ to refer to black people, have gone to whatever reward they're entitled to. But you know what? They were all born in the 1920s so they kind of had an excuse. I doubt if there's anyone here who can make that claim.
No matter what, this blog is Ace's private property and we are all invitees. As our parents used to say when explaining that we couldn't sleep in the same room as our boyfriend until we were married, "My house. My rules."
Posted by: Tonestaple at June 16, 2011 03:14 PM (tXfgR)
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There is a problem, though, when a robustly (and growing daily) First Lady continues to ladle out nutrition advice like cholesterol at SEIU's tator tot booth.
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 07:12 PM (jeLTI)
they have a tater tot booth? hmmm.
Not saying I would go to SUPPORT them, but a tater tot booth... well...
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:14 PM (x3YFz)
So how come it can be "suck" and "blow" at the same time?
Posted by: claire at June 16, 2011 07:04 PM (x3oLQ)
"Blow" is the ironic contrary naming convention. I haven't done the research, but I bet it was coined to disguise discussions of the act, back in the day when "She sucked me" would get you in trouble but "She blew me" would only confuse the eavesdropper.
It reminds me of a cartoon of a stunned bellhop outside a door marked "Bridal Suite." Over the transom he hears, "Suck, Margaret, SUCK! 'Blow' is just a figure of speech!"
By the way, I took one of my daughters to New York City to visit her sister who's in college there and to see "How To Succeed In Business" on Broadway. One evening, we went to Greenwich Village for dinner and happened to walk past the Stonewall Inn, scene of the riots that started the gay liberation movement. Know what's a block away from the Inn? Gay Street. I kind of think that's where the term "gay" comes from.
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:15 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:15 PM (nj1bB)
You do that well. Pointing out her abysmal fashion sense is better that pointing at her wide end. I only stared at her inaugral outfit in inarticulate bafflement, but reading it described as upholstery made me laugh out loud.
/end suckup
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 03:15 PM (GTbGH)
it cracks me upPosted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 03:16 PM (GJ05Q)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 16, 2011 03:16 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: Tonestaple at June 16, 2011 07:14 PM (tXfgR)
Are you sure the commenters on the Myrtle Beach article are all Southerners? The magic of the interwebz is that scum from all corners of the globe can make their filth appear in any comment section anywhere.
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:17 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:17 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Duhgee at June 16, 2011 03:17 PM (ZnhCq)
did we not already establish that I use a mac? HTML is like seven super secret nerd levels above where I'm at.
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 07:11 PM (4KIl/)
Just use Ace's method. That's basically what I do too when I'm posting on my phone which doesn't have the comment toolbar
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 03:17 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 07:11 PM (4KIl/)
Dude, you might want to keep that quiet.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 03:19 PM (0Z5GH)
I had always assumed that this usage of "suck" was short for "suck wind" and then generalized to failure in any area.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 16, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
My grandpa always used to say "suck lemons" as in one who is a sour face.
Posted by: ErikW at June 16, 2011 03:19 PM (T9cS4)
It's the difference between following coeds on twitter or sending them your dicpic. Alotta guys want to show everyone their dic. It's hard to explain to them that 1. No one wants to see it, even waxed and 2. It makes you look crazy and 3. Makes the people who associate with you look crazy, mean, or both.
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2011 03:19 PM (w9nil)
A few weeks ago, there was an event called something like "Black Motorcycle Week" in Myrtle Beach, SC. I read about it at a blog and I went to the local newspaper to read about it first hand. Then I read the comments and I found that what I hoped had died out by now in the south was still alive and well. The comments were about as nastily racist as it was possible for them to be. And as someone who has never been ashamed to be a southerner, I was absolutely mortified.
I don't read enough of the comments to see what Ace is talking about, but then again, I don't want to see it either. The people making racist comments should have died out already. God knows, my Georgia uncles, who simply could not use any term other than N*(%#$ to refer to black people, have gone to whatever reward they're entitled to. But you know what? They were all born in the 1920s so they kind of had an excuse. I doubt if there's anyone here who can make that claim.
No matter what, this blog is Ace's private property and we are all invitees. As our parents used to say when explaining that we couldn't sleep in the same room as our boyfriend until we were married, "My house. My rules."
Posted by: Tonestaple at June 16, 2011 07:14 PM (tXfgR)
Hun, I grew up in an Italian family from Pittsburgh. My father and older brothers were about as racist as it gets. I had the sense of mind to grow up color blind.
'Course... after I left the military in 2000, I learned the rest of the country was filled with racist bastards (most of whom were minorities... imagine that!)
There's a Black Power channel on XM radio where the speakers advocate some dire racist shit. But you know what? I know I'm above them. Not because I'm asian, but because... I judge people individually based on merit. And I'm so goddam well armed it'd make George Patton drool.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 03:19 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:19 PM (4KIl/)
You know, you're a funny guy. Welcome.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 03:20 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 07:19 PM (x3YFz)
you're a vet? I keep reading your name as 'Tangerine".
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 03:21 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:21 PM (4KIl/)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 03:21 PM (GTbGH)
Ace,
you just helped take down a sitting US congressman. Think about that for a bit. Feel your oats, man. You wanna ban someone? Ban 'em. You're the Ace of Spaces.
I was with this blog back in the day when the guys got shirts. It was a little funnier then, maybe, especially with the homophobic comments. It's too bad we have to resist the gay rape stuff now. But it is what it is. If anyone complains, tell them to cabana-boy up.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at June 16, 2011 03:21 PM (epBek)
Years ago my Senior Drill Instructor said something that stuck with me to this day. We were a mess, no unit cohesion. He got tired of it and flipped out, more than usual. lol.
He said "You've mistaken my kindness for a weakness!" Then he thrashed the living hell out of us. Things got better.
Begin the thrashing Ace.
Posted by: Lou at June 16, 2011 03:21 PM (Q8eRK)
Good Luck, Ace
I hope people respond positively.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 16, 2011 03:21 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Representin' Weiner at June 16, 2011 03:21 PM (2SuMg)
Posted by: Bob Saget has not been banned yet at June 16, 2011 07:13 PM (NLWij)
Heh. I got banned for pointing out that his anti-Creationism had veered way over the line into religious intolerance. (Either that, or disagreeing with him that Michelle Bachmann was insane. One or the other. I forget.)
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:22 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Travis at June 16, 2011 03:22 PM (9WkMB)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:23 PM (4KIl/)
Posted by: Professor Why at June 16, 2011 03:23 PM (w5Olk)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 03:23 PM (y/+eD)
Yes, I was naive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 03:24 PM (0Z5GH)
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at June 16, 2011 03:24 PM (ZeWVX)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:24 PM (4KIl/)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 03:25 PM (jeLTI)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 06:51 PM (4KIl/)
Hey, that's no problem, really.
Posted by: Eric Massa Wondering Whether He Should Have Tried to Hang In Just a Little Longer at June 16, 2011 03:25 PM (VAkMn)
Posted by: The Middle Path at June 16, 2011 03:25 PM (zJxtW)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:25 PM (4KIl/)
-- Mark Twain -- Life On The Mississippi
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 03:26 PM (0Z5GH)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:26 PM (nj1bB)
Best advise I have ever received when getting pissed about some idiot troll or people not "getting it" (the ability to have fun without crossing the line)
Ban them move on, unban in 1 month (without telling them most don't come back) if thy stick their neck out a second time ban for good. The 20 or so people cause 80% of the work. I know how it goes.....
Racial crap is insta ban for good.
Posted by: Grover at June 16, 2011 03:26 PM (cwK4+)
I have almost never commented here - but it's the first place I come for news/opinion every day. I love the flaming skulls and the general sense of brash humor.
Have to agree with Ace about the comments, tho. Good plan, and thanks for the blog!
Susan Lee
Posted by: Susan Lee at June 16, 2011 03:26 PM (kf1yc)
Posted by: Aristomenes at June 16, 2011 03:26 PM (t2f+y)
).
But criticizing her for her looks, particularly racial traits, is just wrong.
Oh --- and she's actually not a bad looking woman.Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:27 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Veritas at June 16, 2011 03:27 PM (kGf7l)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:27 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 03:27 PM (GJ05Q)
Posted by: Chrome User at June 16, 2011 03:29 PM (oOHgq)
Posted by: K~Bob at June 16, 2011 03:29 PM (KmaPQ)
Posted by: Ken in Kansas at June 16, 2011 03:29 PM (lWZah)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:29 PM (m13yO)
There are other places for that on the internet. Ace has its own political niche - one that's in great demand. It doesn't aspire to a be a highly intellectual debate arena and it shouldn't. If every single site was like McArdle's or Yglesias then all we'd be left with would be pretentious sounding poorly argued debate blogs (frankly choosing Yglesias as opposed to an Ezra Klein to compare to McArdle's far superior work should raise an eyebrow on your comment anyway).
Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at June 16, 2011 03:29 PM (LLkBr)
Posted by: The Middle Path at June 16, 2011 07:25 PM (zJxtW)
Stick up for your ideas and don't be a chicken-shit (and certainly don't run away), and we will respect you. We'll beat the snot out of your commie politics, but we will respect you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 16, 2011 03:29 PM (0Z5GH)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 16, 2011 03:30 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: Bob Saget has not been banned yet at June 16, 2011 07:13 PM (NLWij)
Heh. I got banned for pointing out that his anti-Creationism had veered way over the line into religious intolerance. (Either that, or disagreeing with him that Michelle Bachmann was insane. One or the other. I forget.)
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 07:22 PM (Di3Im)
That does seem to be something that was not unique to him. I used to comment on another blog where the author got a big hardon about posting as much as he could about "stupid creationists" with any science article he could. He was like CJ a California "conservative." And it just got ridiculous with how often it happened. The thing that I really loved is that with his disgust towards those he made some post about how he also believed in Global Warming but never got as heavy arguments against him for that. And all I could think was "you're not insulting everyone that doesn't believe in Global Warming every other post like you do with your more religious followers you arrogant dickwad."
Then he moved to China for work and really went off the deep end claiming that he was more free there than he was in Bush's America.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 03:30 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Veritas at June 16, 2011 07:27 PM (kGf7l)
I think I speak for posters everywhere when I ask "who'd you say you were, again?"
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 16, 2011 03:30 PM (VAkMn)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 03:31 PM (GJ05Q)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:32 PM (4KIl/)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 03:33 PM (jeLTI)
You have two types of commenters--those who didn't need this post, and those it's wasted on. For what it's worth though, I understand full well the need for the post. Do what you have to...
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at June 16, 2011 03:34 PM (Fs7RJ)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 07:21 PM (4KIl/)
Sidney Poitier stars in:
"They Call Me MISTER Dildo!"
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:34 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:35 PM (m13yO)
But no. A handful of you had to ruin this and now we have the thread of a thousand mea culpas.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2011 07:13 PM (TMB3S)
Well there you have it. Jackstraw wants more Weiner and he isn't going to be satisfied until you give it to him, ace.
Posted by: Warden at June 16, 2011 03:35 PM (ALWfh)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:36 PM (4KIl/)
Then he moved to China for work and really went off the deep end claiming that he was more free there than he was in Bush's America.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 07:30 PM (oVQFe)
LGF's meltdown coincided with Chucky's marital woes, didn't it?
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:36 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Cindy in San Diego at June 16, 2011 03:37 PM (IB258)
It's either this or busting kids' chops for TP-ing residences.
Posted by: Officer Barbrady at June 16, 2011 03:37 PM (1yViP)
Posted by: Veritas at June 16, 2011 03:37 PM (kGf7l)
Posted by: Bob Saget has not been banned yet at June 16, 2011 03:38 PM (NLWij)
Um, wut? I thought we regularly flame any women who can't take the heat here?
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at June 16, 2011 03:38 PM (YxBuk)
If Michelle the Moose had been more of a Laura Bush who didn't campaign and didn't say things remotely offensive to anyone, then yeah the Wookie shit would have been completely beyond the pale.
I'm not going to waste time dredging up some of her comments- we can all remember. She's a nasty piece of work.
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 03:38 PM (/IW23)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 07:36 PM (4KIl/)
You couldn't have done it without Roseanne Barr's cooch. (She was vagina-doubling for Angelina Jolie -- only Roseanne had the capaciousness to house both you and the entire production crew.)
"Help me find my keys, and we'll drive out."
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:39 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:40 PM (m13yO)
Regarding your post 672:
I have to agree 110%. If I was looking for porn,I wouldn't be here. Well,maybe war porn. I must confess to feeling a sense of excitement when I see footage of terrorists being blown into carbon atoms and such.
Let me just say I enjoy all aspects of your blog and appreciate the effort that goes into making it what it is.....the top on my favorites list. Do whatever you have to do to keep it such a great place to come to.
Posted by: LeftOverFromthe70's at June 16, 2011 03:40 PM (41pdT)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 03:40 PM (GJ05Q)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:41 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: The Middle Path at June 16, 2011 03:41 PM (zJxtW)
slightly intimidated by this thread.
I hope my lack of quick wit , grammar , conciseness is that a word?(well any wit) doesn't make me a prime candidate.
But LGF? yep Johnson doesn't like palin either! See, just like lgf!
Ace srsly. I'm sorry about the stress caused by us numbskulls..
I understand taking down a big shot is stressful also with its risks.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2011 03:41 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:42 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:42 PM (nj1bB)
LGF's meltdown coincided with Chucky's marital woes, didn't it?
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 07:36 PM (Di3Im)
I don't know. I never read LGF
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 03:42 PM (oVQFe)
A few weeks ago, there was an event called something like "Black Motorcycle Week" in Myrtle Beach, SC. I read about it at a blog and I went to the local newspaper to read about it first hand. Then I read the comments and I found that what I hoped had died out by now in the south was still alive and well. The comments were about as nastily racist as it was possible for them to be. And as someone who has never been ashamed to be a southerner, I was absolutely mortified.
I live near Nashville, but went to college in Ohio, and I'll tell anyone who asks - I've never experienced more casual "you're white too, you know what I'm implying here" type suggestions in my life, nor heard more outright full-on hateful remarks than I did during my time in OH.
Racist assholes are easily found anywhere; some places just still have a NIMBY attitude towards that fact while others have had to deal with it directly and admit that folks where they live have a problem.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 16, 2011 03:43 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: Professor Why at June 16, 2011 07:23 PM (w5Olk)
Rush Limbaugh is a certified Apple maniac. I have an iPhone because of it (he gave me one at random when I called his show).
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:44 PM (Di3Im)
I am getting late to the thread as usual, but I do want to go down on record. I enjoy the comments a lot. They brighten up my day. But...
I agree that this site is Ace's and we are guests. Anybody that can't behave himself in another man's house deserves to be tossed out.
If you find yourself banned, maybe you should take that as an indication that you need to engage in a little self examination.
If you want to comment, be intelligent. If you can't be intelligent, be funny. If you can't be intelligent nor funny, sit back and watch the masters at work. Nobody wants to read your stupid crap.
And another thing, if somebody has already said what you want to say, then shut up. You missed your chance.
Posted by: Harry at June 16, 2011 03:45 PM (IU2XY)
Well dammit.. again, I'm gone for awhile and all hell breaks loose! I don't know what I missed and I hope with all my heart that I have never said anything that ace is ashamed of or that hurts anyone else.
And I will repeat what I know I and others have said. Ace's house, ace's rules. Deal with it or go somewhere else.
I know you got upset with me one time just a few weeks ago ace, it was just a comment after I posted something and you were kind of testy. That's why I recommended a vacation for you, lol. But you don't know me, I don't know you and we can only take alot of comments at face value and you saw my question as kind of stupid and ignorant. That's okay though.. I can sometimes be kind of naive and dumb about stuff.
Posted by: jewells45 at June 16, 2011 03:45 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:45 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 03:45 PM (/IW23)
Posted by: The Middle Path at June 16, 2011 07:41 PM (zJxtW)
So you are saying that the Middle Path is the "average" of the extremes?
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:45 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Veritas at June 16, 2011 03:46 PM (kGf7l)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 03:46 PM (jeLTI)
"Highlight what you want in italics, then hit the i button next to the B above."
That hasn't worked for me for quite a while now - don't know why, because it worked like a dream before.
Of course, I got a new laptop that has Windows 7 installed on it....
Do I need to tell Pixy?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 16, 2011 03:46 PM (5QW3T)
I can't put a number on it or compare but this blog is oddly, unexpectedly, female-o-centric.
But that doesn't mean that boys should stop being boys. You (and everyone else) shouldn't cater to the women just because you think it might offend our "delicate" sensibilities. I think a lot of the 'ettes, me included, appreciate the boys being boys thing because we see the feminization of society and we don't like it one bit. If we didn't like the content here, we wouldn't be here.
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at June 16, 2011 03:46 PM (YxBuk)
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2011 03:47 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:47 PM (m13yO)
And that's why we conduct our business elsewhere, young lady.
Posted by: A Nice Polite Faculty Dinner Discussion at June 16, 2011 03:48 PM (VAkMn)
Waitaminute gay guys suck dicks? Then why don't we like them?
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 06:53 PM (Fw2Gg)
Good one, Blaster. 4 out of 5 on the chuckle scale. 5 out of 5 on the thought provoking sublime genius scale of anonymous internet commenting. Where in the hell is the thumbs up like ding counter thingy?
Posted by: I Can Top That But I Don't Know When To Say When Even At A Construction Site at June 16, 2011 03:48 PM (NjVr8)
The first obligation of hospitality, according to Mencken, is to find out precisely what one's guests want. The second is to give it to them with a free and even reckless hand.
Your audience wants blood, Ace.
I've been writing busty lesbian porn haiku all afternoon, but holding them back until heads start rolling.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at June 16, 2011 03:48 PM (xqhoO)
Posted by: MDH3 at June 16, 2011 03:48 PM (lg5vh)
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at June 16, 2011 07:46 PM (YxBuk)
no catering to us?
weeping, i get no respect anywhere!
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2011 03:49 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:49 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Jimbo at June 16, 2011 03:50 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 03:51 PM (m13yO)
I think a lot of the 'ettes, me included, appreciate the boys being boys thing
I appreciate your comment. Do you happen to have a Twitter account?
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 16, 2011 03:52 PM (ALWfh)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 03:52 PM (jeLTI)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 03:53 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2011 03:53 PM (TMB3S)
The jokes made me sympathize with her and wish to protect her from further public scorn.
That is what we call "counterproductive," when you're actually driving sympathy towards the target of your attack.
People don't get this. Some people think it's always a race to get to the nastiest, outrageous place imaginable.
I always laughed at those jokes I'm afraid. Loved them. Four years of Barbara Bush being compared to Quaker Oates guy wasn't racist but whip out the Star Trek card and you're over the line. Your blog, though. I'm cool with that and will shut my trap.
Posted by: Max Power at June 16, 2011 03:54 PM (Hucnr)
I hope rum had on her stompy boots when she typed that screed.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 03:54 PM (2SuMg)
Agreed. I've lurked since Methuselah, only commented fairly recently. Try to be funny with the sock puppets.
If Ace has a hardcore group of troublemakers, he ought to just ban them.
Posted by: backhoe at June 16, 2011 03:54 PM (0bk6W)
Missed the thread but I've seen the vid - definitely no surprise that it blew up the post. While I don't consider it racist per se unless "black person" actually does = "gangbanger," it's incendiary and sure to give closet racists and/or Beavis wanna-be's a sugar high they can't handle.
I understand the "don't let the libs dictate speech rules" sentiment, but free speech doesn't mean freedom from accountability for what you say - even if you say it on your own site, much less someone else's.
When you find your edgy comment referenced on some liberal Groupthink site as an example of how AoS is full of Stormfronters, don't expect them to give you 5 minutes of equal time to explain how your racial-slur and slut-reference-laced diatribe was really a funny joke or a symbolic protest for free speech rights. You'll just be taken at face value and made into another nail they can hammer into the public image of conservatism.
It sucks in an backward-ass way that this blog became prominent enough that we can't do whatever the hell we want anymore - it was a little more fun when it was younger - but reality's sometimes a bitch and it's still one of the best around.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at June 16, 2011 03:55 PM (kaPwD)
Oh great George Lucas is going to hold anyone that wants to see the original trilogy in 3D hostage by saying that unless The Phantom Menace does well in 3D they won't convert any of the other ones.
Not like I really care though, since I don't care for 3D, but he is being a whiny bastard about it again.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 03:55 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Aelfred at June 16, 2011 03:55 PM (4KIl/)
Now you're ignoring Mencken's advice.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 16, 2011 03:55 PM (VAkMn)
And then there was bbeck....
Never before has there been an internet handle created with two such grossly misleading first letters.
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at June 16, 2011 03:55 PM (ALWfh)
What other secret "messages" do you see taunting you? Don't worry there is help available for you.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 03:55 PM (0q2P7)
Read that again. From the Ace. It's true. Oh, so true. You can get away with a lot of shit. If you're funny.
I'm not particularly funny. I'm too fucking bitter to actually be funny. But there is a sense of how to do this thing we do.
I booked out of here for a while for several reasons. Some political, some personal. And, honest to God, I've come back to a nest of fucknozzles who wouldn't know how to do what ace is saying if they had the Dummies book in front of them with diagrams.
You guys have fucked this place up. Let's fix it.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 03:56 PM (RgXpA)
"... your sense of restraint and judgment is not well calibrated."
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 07:11 PM (nj1bB)
Yup. The filter in modern society is more like a colander than cheese cloth. Makes it tough sometimes.
Posted by: I Can Top That But I Don't Know When To Say When Even At A Construction Site at June 16, 2011 03:56 PM (NjVr8)
Posted by: Jimbo at June 16, 2011 03:57 PM (O3R/2)
I hesitate to suggest it but, I could troll bust if you need a little help, Ace. I pretty much live on this site, as I'm sure you have noticed, and except for that unfortunate incident when Dick Cheese made his first appearance, I don't think you've called me down over anything.
Posted by: toby928™
Yeh, I think there are plenty of us who wouldn't mind being useful.
Not like all the time or anything crazy like that, mind you.
And we'd get a cape, right?
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 03:57 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Keating Willcox at June 16, 2011 03:57 PM (zsyG/)
there are always a few in the community who just will not learn not to piss in the well.
I'm switching to city water.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 16, 2011 03:57 PM (Ew27I)
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at June 16, 2011 03:58 PM (YxBuk)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 16, 2011 03:58 PM (Z71Vg)
Remember -- at the end of the day, that company, that hugely successful company that overcame various mistakes and hardships in the market, self-inflicted and otherwise, is an American company created by two entrepreneurs and a team of great workers in a free capitalist economy.
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 07:47 PM (m13yO)
Steve Jobs is an arrogant prick in a class by himself. But he has a knack for knowing what certain consumers want.
In the context of Pixar, his products appeal to the widest possible audiences.
In the context of Apple, his products appeal to a narrower range, and his policies toward closed systems with limited interoperability keep that club small. It's a valid strategy: he controls all of a small market space instead of a small part of a larger market space.
The iPhone is great... to a point. And then you wonder why it won't run Flash and a few other nuisances, all of which add up to frustration.
So probably my next phone will be Android-based... unless I get sucked in by some new feature on the iPhone 5 or something.
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 03:58 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: museisluse at June 16, 2011 03:59 PM (Y3n3D)
I've always wondered what proportion of readers were:
A. Regular or semi-regular commenters.
B. Those who comment on rare occasions but not frequently.
C. Those who don't comment at all.
Not that it really matters, just curious. I imagine that it's not really possible (or easily possible) to make that determination though.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2011 04:00 PM (WRW1S)
Posted by: Veritas at June 16, 2011 04:00 PM (kGf7l)
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2011 04:00 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: I Can Top That But I Don't Know When To Say When Even At A Construction Site at June 16, 2011 04:00 PM (NjVr8)
These are tough times and we need a few more victories for the common-sense side to settle people down.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 04:01 PM (GTbGH)
Less talk. More boob pics.
See what I did there? It was rude, and crude, and socially unacceptable, and sexist, and by all means, over any line that any decent society would draw.
But I know Rum, and she knows me. Knowing people makes all the difference. Just chill until you're a known quantity and are talking to a known quantity.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 04:01 PM (RgXpA)
Oh great George Lucas is going to hold anyone that wants to see the original trilogy in 3D hostage by saying that unless The Phantom Menace does well in 3D they won't convert any of the other ones.
Not like I really care though, since I don't care for 3D, but he is being a whiny bastard about it again.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 07:55 PM (oVQFe)
"Holding it hostage" is not a fair characterization.
If he offers a product for sale and not enough people buy it to earn back the costs of production, why should he be obligated to make other similar products with no expectation of profit?
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 04:01 PM (Di3Im)
I'm not particularly funny. I'm too fucking bitter to actually be funny.
Oh, bullshit.
<smacks Herr on the head in a loving show of support>
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 04:02 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: jewells45 at June 16, 2011 04:02 PM (Z71Vg)
This is kind of like his "oh, you want the original theatrical versions again? Well here you go, suckers" and then putting them in "special features" on Disc 2 as unrestored, non-anamorphic laserdisc transfers from the mid-'90s.
If Lucas were to release the original Star Wars in 3D first, "would it do well?" wouldn't even be a question, and he knows it. But he's a megalomaniacal shit, so here comes that 3D Jar-Jar regardless of whether anyone wants it or whether it makes any financial sense on his part.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 16, 2011 04:02 PM (VAkMn)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 04:03 PM (m13yO)
Yeah but on our big day when we should be celebrating we cratered the topic with bad comments and missed our chance at der flaming skull victory lap. *sniff*
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 04:04 PM (0q2P7)
I miss reading you salivating over my gams, Herr M. I promise more boobies if you hang around the ONT more often.
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at June 16, 2011 04:05 PM (YxBuk)
Posted by: Aristomenes at June 16, 2011 04:05 PM (t2f+y)
Posted by: Jimbo at June 16, 2011 07:57 PM (O3R/2)
Nah. I just like the word fuck.
Posted by: Steph at June 16, 2011 04:05 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2011 04:06 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: The Middle Path at June 16, 2011 04:06 PM (zJxtW)
I also think the women who comment here know they can hold their own against the boys and that's why they're still here. We can throwdown, so to speak, just as hard as the boys do. It's part of the fun of being an 'ette.
I didn't even read that before I smacked Herr.
But um, yeh, I guess I'd have to agree...
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 04:07 PM (XdlcF)
The saddest part of all of this is that I was about to write parody lyrics to "Bette Davis Eyes" for "Tony Weiner's Dick" -- and then the Weiner thread disappeared, and now I don't know if I'm allowed to.
Sad, really sad.
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 04:07 PM (Di3Im)
You people sure like to argue.
Hell, if it weren't for the opportunity to argue, I'd rarely bother with the comments section at all. I'd rather participate in a thread full of debate and argument than 200 "me too" comments.
That's just me though.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2011 04:07 PM (WRW1S)
In seriousness, it does seem that the comments have taken a harder, bitterer edge since his unprecedentedness took the stage.
I love ace and have been here since 2004.
I used to read every single post and all the comments. I hated to even miss a single day of posts. I even sneaked out of my hotel room on my honeymoon to log on from Aruba and get caught up.
Now I just sort of skim and days go by where I don't read.
I get bitter and nasty when I follow the news too closely. And some of the bile in the comments tends to rub off on me.
As soon as I feel myself getting angry and hostile, I just walk away and do something productive.
No use being here if I'm not enjoying myself.
Posted by: Warden at June 16, 2011 04:07 PM (ALWfh)
Toby, I think that's a very good point.
I know my stress level has gone through the roof. many that I know have lost their livlihoods with no end in sight.
We have had two different sets of people live with us after losing it in the last year.
Yes I'm angry at this economy and I do blame this administration or not taking it seriously. and mad in general at seeing other good folks fall .
also fearful for the future.
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2011 04:08 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 08:04 PM (0q2P7)
OH is that what happened? Oh well, Mike... I have a feeling there will be many more victory laps.
Posted by: jewells45 at June 16, 2011 04:08 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 04:08 PM (RgXpA)
That is all.
Posted by: Jeff B. at June 16, 2011 04:09 PM (hIWe1)
Course language is for people who are too stupid and ignorant to express their thoughts effectively.
It is also helpful for punctuation.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 04:09 PM (2SuMg)
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2011 04:10 PM (jZMJj)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 04:10 PM (RgXpA)
It can resemble a meat grinder at times ,Spank.
I really gotta stop reading the comments from newer to older ones.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2011 04:10 PM (WRW1S)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 04:11 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:11 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 04:11 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 04:11 PM (nj1bB)
Over 700 comments, and I haven't seen a single vote against draconian banning. Can we declare the question settled and move forward?
if you correct my spelling one more time....
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:12 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Veritas at June 16, 2011 04:12 PM (kGf7l)
Course Coarse language is for people who are too stupid and ignorant to express their thoughts effectively.
Fixed that for 'ya, motherfucker.
Posted by: Warden at June 16, 2011 04:12 PM (ALWfh)
We're talking about a 3D Star Wars movie, f'r crying out loud. If George Lucas is holding out the possibility that that might not do well, then he's basically admitting "I really screwed up with these prequels". But his ego won't let him go for the sure thing (the original trilogy in 3D), so he's going to take the risk on the shittiest chapter of the prequels.
This is kind of like owning a film library that includes Gone With the Wind, but hinging a decision of whether to re-release it on the box office performance of your reissue of The Garbage Pail Kids Movie.
Lucas is acknowledging here what everyone else has been saying for a dozen years: if the Star Wars saga had started off with TPM, none of the rest of them would ever have been made.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 16, 2011 04:12 PM (VAkMn)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 04:12 PM (GJ05Q)
"Holding it hostage" is not a fair characterization.
If he offers a product for sale and not enough people buy it to earn back the costs of production, why should he be obligated to make other similar products with no expectation of profit?
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 08:01 PM (Di3Im)
Well the thing is that these are already created products. And like the sidebar article says, TPM is probably the worst of the six and the one least likely to get a lot of people to go to. So its saying "You'd better like my piece of shit or else I won't release my good ones"
It really is a bit of a pointless discussion though since there are plenty of fans that will go see it just to see it. I mean as a Star Wars fan I'd probably go see it too if it weren't for me also not giving a damn about 3D movies.
Posted by: buzzion at June 16, 2011 04:12 PM (oVQFe)
<i>Do this:
*i#italicized text*/i#
*b#bolded text text*/b#</i>
Thanks, Reason! (Hope it works - I've tried the <em></em>, but that didn't work here....) ¢¾
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 16, 2011 04:13 PM (5QW3T)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 04:13 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Tennyson at June 16, 2011 04:15 PM (ETZn2)
Rather, I mean, as a woman offended by "boys being boys" stuff. Not random stupidity
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2011 04:15 PM (jZMJj)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 04:15 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Tennyson at June 16, 2011 08:15 PM (ETZn2)
Good, because your poetry sucks.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 04:15 PM (RgXpA)
Yeah. Me too. Wait.
Posted by: beating it to death at June 16, 2011 04:16 PM (GTbGH)
2. Someone (Veritas) commented on the room getting quiet when you pushed that joke too far in school - one classic "learning disability" is the inability to accept that correction. People like that FLOCK to the internet because they find places to get away with that (4chan, fark, etc). Unfortunately they don't seem to realize, still, that not everywhere is like that.
3. I decided a while back to just find somewhere else to make fun of Michelle's dresses, not because I think that itself is offensive, but because inevitably 15 minutes later some pencilpenis from Stormfront shows up and violates rule a2.
4. Speaking of that, we need a subset of the Internet Rules for AoSHQ. They don't have to be fully populated or perfectly consistent, but they might help with "interventions." I suggest the prefix "a."
a1 - steak sauce
a2 - This Is Not Your House
a3 - only use profanity if it's funny. it's not funny if no one else is laughing.
a4 - a small naval attack aircraft
a5 - IFF stands for Identify Friend or Foe, not Interdict Friendly Forces
a6 - all 'ettes are hot
a7 - a small naval attack aircraft, but not as small as an a4
a8 - double-check your links before you post to avoid AAAAAHHHH!
a9 - there is no rule a9
and so forth...
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 04:16 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 08:03 PM (m13yO)
Funny story: he'd almost killed Apple by inisting that they develop and sell the "Lisa," a GUI-based mouse-operated personal computer ripped off from the Xerox STAR. So as the company is bleeding money and he's being shunted off to a corner to play with his toys, he finds a group of engineers working on a "Lisa lite," which he gloms onto and calls the MacIntosh.
So the MacIntosh comes out: one box containing the CPU, monitor, and one 3.5" microfloppy drive. Big hit, by Apple standards, though to run a program and save data at the same time involves ten floppy disk swaps.
The first MacWorld conference rolls around, and Jobs makes his presentation. Someone in the audience asks, "When will the Mac get a hard disk drive?"
Jobs answers, "You can't put a hard disk inside the enclosure."
A guy pipes up from the back. "We did it. It's out in our booth on the floor."
Jobs says, "That's impossible. There's no interface in the unit for a hard drive."
Guy says, "That's why we piggyback on the CPU socket itself."
Jobs says, "It won't work. The power supply can't handle the extra load."
Guy says, "Our kit includes a heftier power supply in the same form factor."
Jobs says, "Then you're going to overheat the unit because it's convectively cooled."
Guy says, "Yes, that's why our kit includes a fan."
Jobs gets angry and says, "It just WON'T WORK!"
Sort of like, "Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?"
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 04:17 PM (Di3Im)
Um, wut? I thought we regularly flame any women who can't take the heat here?
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at June 16, 2011 07:38 PM (YxBuk)
I can say, speaking only for myself, that I have NEVER been uncomfortable with the banter here.
I would be completely pissed if I thought someone was self-censoring because they worried that they'd offend me because I'm a woman. That is offensive.
(In the interests of full disclosure, I do work with Soldiers and I have warned those who work with me that I am more likely to offend than be offended.)
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 04:17 PM (otfJ1)
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:17 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Darth Soros at June 16, 2011 04:17 PM (VAkMn)
Posted by: BillyShaft at June 16, 2011 04:18 PM (gGGR/)
>> The Michelle Obama "Wookie" jokes were entirely appropriate as they were a natural reaction to the media's constant swooning over her effortless grace and toned arms and what not- really shoving it down our throat.
No, it wasn't. They started as Klingon jokes. I thought that all started with the gold dress she wore on Inauguration Day. I swear, I've only seen that shade of gold twice before in my life: the sashes the Klingons wore in the original Star Trek series and the upholstery on my grandmother's couch. So her dress was the third time I've ever seen that color. Then the fourth time came when a photo showed the drapes in the Oval Office. It was funny at the time. Here's the new First Lady, by virtue of her position a major fashion trend setter for the nation, dressing like science fiction villains and her husband's window treatments.
Then it got unfunny. The Klingon cracks were aimed at Mrs. Obama's general appearance, but I've never seen her sporting facial hair. The only similarity was skin color. You can believe that these cracks weren't racist, but they were certainly mean, and in case you haven't been out much, here's an observation: There's a lot of overlap between mean bastards and racists. And if these "Wookie" remarks weren't racist, I'd like to know why everyone spared Hillary Clinton the same insults.
>> Publicly disagreeing with you is calling for a pissing match?
At this point, yes. Ace says he's tired of this bickering with commenters. If you don't believe him, it's still polite to take his words at face value. He says he doesn't want an argument, but some people push his buttons anyway to extract an argument from him. Those such as you who get that argument win in some perverse way.
You got someone to do what they didn't want to do, so please don't gripe on this blog when the government makes you install CFL bulbs in your home against your wishes. You've surrendered your position to make such complaints. That's how principles work, you see.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 16, 2011 04:18 PM (peN5l)
When I get done representing the baseball bat beat-er off-ers case I'll be free to discuss yours.
Call me.
Posted by: Gloria Alred at June 16, 2011 04:18 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: ranger117 at June 16, 2011 04:19 PM (Dm5Is)
This is the post that turned me into a regular reader. So, um, no, I"m not usually shocked at what pops up here.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 04:19 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Milo at June 16, 2011 04:20 PM (DfCT7)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 04:20 PM (GJ05Q)
I was never on of the commenters making Michelle Obama cracks. And you ignored the point I made regarding the media and their shoving her supposed beauty down our throats. The point is, no one would have made jokes about her if that media hadn't been doing that. We've been attacked and beat up by this administration and their media lackeys for going on three years now, and it's only natural that some people vent by making off-color comments rather than react violently.
As far as referring to me as "waste of bandwidth" which I've seen you label other commenters in the past- that's just vicious and uncalled for.
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 04:20 PM (/IW23)
I just blow by the "edgy" comments, so the less of them I waste the milliseconds on before their stench is recognized the better.
Do what you gotta do. You've been plenty tolerant. And when you're too tolerant it makes it all worse anyway.
Your's is the only blog where I read the comments, the only blog where I regularly comment (if one or two comments a day counts).
Posted by: rockhead at June 16, 2011 04:20 PM (ZMHGo)
Lucas is acknowledging here what everyone else has been saying for a dozen years: if the Star Wars saga had started off with TPM, none of the rest of them would ever have been made.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 16, 2011 08:12 PM (VAkMn)
Ted Turner colorized Casablanca. I think he was wise to drop his plans to colorize every other movie in the Warners and MGM library.
I don't see how a movie that everyone agrees is marvelous needs to be fucked with on the general principle of "because we can."
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 04:21 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 04:21 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2011 08:10 PM (jZMJj)
sorry?
Posted by: garrett just being safe at June 16, 2011 08:17 PM (2SuMg)
OMG! Yes, Garrett, and do you know which one? (If you do, this is weird).
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2011 04:22 PM (jZMJj)
Posted by: booger, formerly martha stewart's left nipple at June 16, 2011 04:22 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 16, 2011 04:23 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Professor Why at June 16, 2011 04:23 PM (w5Olk)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at June 16, 2011 04:24 PM (zQLlI)
I'm pretty sure most of us here are on the same side and most of our disagreements are a matter of degrees or tactics. It would be nice if some of the red on red got dialed back a tad.
It might even inspire some more funny.
This sounds like RINO talk to me.
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:24 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Tennyson at June 16, 2011 04:25 PM (ETZn2)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 04:26 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: FireHorse at June 16, 2011 08:18 PM (peN5l)
Wait, you mean Supreme Soviet Raging Bitch McCankles?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 04:26 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Cindy in San Diego at June 16, 2011 04:27 PM (IB258)
Sadly this reminds me of those Billy Jack movies where Billy Jack talks and talks and then takes off his hat and boots and talks some more. By that time, if I were one of the evil rednecks, I would be begging Billy Jack to just go ahead and kick my ass so he would shut up.
Now Chuch Norris, he gives the bad guys that look that says he is going to kick there ass and then does it.
Ace, be Chuck Norris, not Billy Jack.
Posted by: Guy who always hated Billy Jack at June 16, 2011 04:27 PM (XVT73)
Ah, but booger, having a nic that makes Ace cry while giving a hat tip always makes me giggle.
And the only thing that offended me was whatever *issues* you had with the right one. <rolls eyes>
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 04:27 PM (XdlcF)
I just blow by the "edgy" comments
Posted by: rockhead at June 16, 2011 08:20 PM (ZMHGo)
I blow by the second stall in the public lavvys in MacArthur Park, love.
Posted by: George Michael at June 16, 2011 04:27 PM (Di3Im)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 04:28 PM (GJ05Q)
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 04:28 PM (otfJ1)
OMG! Yes, Garrett, and do you know which one? (If you do, this is weird).
I should think so...my memory can be ok at times...
but I could be wrong. Irregardless, I am sincere when I say I am sorry that I am the one commentor that stands out as such.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 04:28 PM (2SuMg)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 04:29 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Tennyson at June 16, 2011 08:25 PM (ETZn2)
Hahahaha. Well played,
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 04:29 PM (RgXpA)
Seems like it would be the smart military blog way (to me at least).
Posted by: ontherocks at June 16, 2011 04:29 PM (HBqDo)
I read Ace two, three times a day, and have for six/seven years, but only comment when he pisses me off or I can take a cheap shot at him.
My favorite is when one of you spare douchebags reacts to my comment and asks me how long I've been reading him.
You guys are priceless.
Posted by: Dick at June 16, 2011 04:29 PM (Tj88Z)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 04:29 PM (jeLTI)
Dear Ace,
I for one, have found this site to be such an absolute blast to let myself go on and release pent up frustrations from watching my beloved home state of California do this horrible slow death slide into an animal farm like house of smoke& mirrors. I will fully admit not pitching into the tip jar as I live pretty much hand to mouth right now as my employment has also been doing a slow death side since October. It would be a shame to lose you ACE. This site has always put out the very best in current events and ribald satire and commenting here has been a great privilege and one of the few bright spots in my day as of late.
Very Respectfully,
Richard
Posted by: Richard at June 16, 2011 04:29 PM (Jo4Y0)
Ace has a list! Awesome. I hope Idon't miss the floggings.
Floggings? If only.
Death by Bunga Bunga ain't pretty to watch.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2011 04:30 PM (WRW1S)
You mean insane, "don't take walks in Fort Marcy Park or she'll kill you", bitter schoolmarm, Subaru driving Hillary Strapon-Clinton.
Yeah. she got off easy.
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 04:30 PM (2dbd9)
Wait, you mean Supreme Soviet Raging Bitch McCankles?
That's funny right there. Big difference, though. Mrs. Clinton immediately made herself a political figure, and the insult isn't racist.
(As an aside, Ivan Drago was married to if Hillary Clinton, there's no way Rocky wins.)
Posted by: FireHorse at June 16, 2011 04:31 PM (peN5l)
Haiku here at Ace's?
I must admit - I'm verklempt
Culture plus snark? Win!
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 04:31 PM (otfJ1)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 04:31 PM (2vy1o)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 04:31 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Veritas at June 16, 2011 04:32 PM (kGf7l)
Does this mean we can't quote 'Blazing Saddles'?
Just promise you won't start peddling crap calendars or set up ding-dongs and calculate our blog karma.
Posted by: loppyd at June 16, 2011 04:32 PM (7xTsp)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 04:32 PM (y/+eD)
Try new "regardless" same strength as traditional "irregardless" with 17% fewer keystrokes.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 04:33 PM (0q2P7)
Haha, same here, i always laugh my ass of at those. I still think the best commentor nic, especially for hat tips, was Masturbatin' Pete, haven't seen him around in a while though.
Posted by: booger at June 16, 2011 04:33 PM (9RFH1)
I'd rather watch the idiot with the hammers and the melons.
Bingo. I'd rather watch Ace whack virtual melons with his banhammer.
Registration? Noooooooooooooooooooooo! You'll shred perfectly good socks. Besides, you have some offenders who know how to get around the IP address stuff anyway.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 16, 2011 04:33 PM (Ew27I)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 04:34 PM (136wp)
Every time this lecture comes up is needed I'm always late to party an wonder what happened. The bad stuff is deleted.
"126 Name Names. I wanna know who to watch out for I also want to know if I'm on the list."
I was hoping to see a post about a recent video containing some classic eye rolling but now that will not happen. Too bad, it could have defined eye rolling for the next ten years. ..um. oh-oh.
Posted by: snookered at June 16, 2011 04:34 PM (jchJh)
Missed the Internet of late 1990s did you? Pretty much every conservative blog was AoSHQ when Cankles was on the menu.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 16, 2011 04:34 PM (agD4m)
Try new "regardless" same strength as traditional "irregardless" with 17% fewer keystrokes.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 08:33 PM (0q2P7)
Love this. One of my pet peeves and I am am going to be unabashedly stealing your line.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 04:35 PM (otfJ1)
Posted by: blaster at June 16, 2011 04:36 PM (Fw2Gg)
I still think the best commentor nic, especially for hat tips, was Masturbatin' Pete, haven't seen him around in a while though.
That was exactly the one I was thinking about. Although the "thanks to someone, no not "someone' but just some one" was funny. And, frighteningly, completely clear to me.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 04:37 PM (XdlcF)
You are <i>not</i> CJ, and culling the socially estoopid won't make you so.
Posted by: BrendaK at June 16, 2011 04:37 PM (t3c3U)
i'm hoping those on a list will just suck it up and agree to the rules . they are few in number... so many commentators that write here are amazing and so well informed I've learned so much from Them as well as the Head Posters.
can't we all just get along?
Posted by: willow at June 16, 2011 04:38 PM (h+qn8)
Try new "regardless" same strength as traditional "irregardless" with 17% fewer keystrokes.
Has the meme slipped into obscurity already?
I had hoped setting it off in italics was enough to point out that its presence was intended.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 04:38 PM (2SuMg)
Bingo. I'd rather watch Ace whack virtual melons with his banhammer.
Registration? Noooooooooooooooooooooo! You'll shred perfectly good socks. Besides, you have some offenders who know how to get around the IP address stuff anyway.
Registration wouldn't bother me; it wouldn't necessarily prevent the use of sockpuppets. Just require logging in before you can post, but keep the comments section exactly as they are complete with the ability to fill in the "Name" field.
It would be slightly annoying, but would also discourage some of the spam and drive-by trolls.
Don't much care either way.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 16, 2011 04:38 PM (WRW1S)
Ace, you should try Russian should the damnable commies simply choose not to understand.
__________
в огне!
Posted by: Cheap Russian knock-off of the en fuego guy at June 16, 2011 04:39 PM (6fER6)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 04:39 PM (m13yO)
That's funny right there. Big difference, though. Mrs. Clinton immediately made herself a political figure, and the insult isn't racist.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 16, 2011 08:31 PM (peN5l)
Just to avoid dragging it out, I'm not gonna drag it out other than to say that both made themselves political figures, though one moreso than the other. And comments on one of them will attract Sheets McKnuckledragger more than the other, which sadly makes it Not Worth The Effort.
Let's just say this particular self-censorship is imposed on us by more than one 'front.
On the other hand, I think it's fair enough still to criticize her ideas when she interjects herself, but I don't do that much because a) she's not very important and b) you still carry some risk of attracting political carrion flies.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 04:39 PM (bxiXv)
I am sitting in Hooters right now having wings and beer posting on my iPhone.
If you're at Hooters and staring at your iPhone, aren't you doing it wrong??
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 04:41 PM (XdlcF)
Also, less stupid shit.
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 04:41 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at June 16, 2011 04:42 PM (FYwGn)
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:42 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 04:42 PM (jeLTI)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 04:43 PM (0q2P7)
try color
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 04:43 PM (136wp)
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 04:44 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 08:34 PM (136wp)
At least half of all the comments at YouTube are vile in one fashion or another. It really is the Least Common Denominator of internet commenting.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 04:45 PM (bxiXv)
The Jersey City man charged with murdering a Marine who was home on leave last month made his first court appearance today on charges he attempted to murder a cabbie in an unrelated incident only days earlier
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 04:46 PM (136wp)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 16, 2011 04:48 PM (RgXpA)
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 04:48 PM (2dbd9)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 16, 2011 04:49 PM (agD4m)
I hope the trolls go away.
You did say there was beer?
Posted by: Infidel de Manahatta at June 16, 2011 04:49 PM (jJb6R)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 04:49 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: weiner to mini-weiner at June 16, 2011 04:50 PM (kGf7l)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 16, 2011 04:51 PM (GTbGH)
We need another Lurkers Come Out thread. Just a howdy sort of thing. No pressure or dic pics required.
But they are always welcome
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:52 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: straight guy pretending to be a lesbian at June 16, 2011 04:52 PM (8+HF8)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at June 16, 2011 04:52 PM (3ESDJ)
Posted by: JohnW at June 16, 2011 04:52 PM (c45mq)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 04:52 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:52 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 04:55 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 16, 2011 04:55 PM (jeLTI)
My number is 555-.......
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 08:39 PM (m13yO)
Not to stomp on Rum's stompy boots but I've found that my thigh high patents tend to create powerlessness in some folks.
962 I want to be able to give money and get a custom hash.
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 08:44 PM (XdlcF)
Yep.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 04:55 PM (otfJ1)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 16, 2011 04:55 PM (136wp)
>>That's true, and yet funnily, on the right sort of video, I've had some very intellectual conversations on YouTube, and on those topics, better than I could have here, regrettably.
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 08:49 PM (m13yO)
True, funnily, very intellectual and regrettably, all in the same sentence. That is random.
Filling furiously to 1000
Posted by: ontherocks at June 16, 2011 04:55 PM (HBqDo)
I cannot believe that you're still having this problem. You have waaay more patience than I do. Break out the Might Ban Hammer of Doom and move on.
Posted by: physics geek at June 16, 2011 04:55 PM (1i2AL)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at June 16, 2011 04:56 PM (D+phB)
Yes AoSHQ specialty style custom Bacon! The saltiest bacon you'll ever voluntarily put in your mouth!
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 16, 2011 04:56 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 04:56 PM (2vy1o)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 04:57 PM (2vy1o)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 16, 2011 04:59 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 16, 2011 04:59 PM (5QW3T)
>>I got it!
(How the heck did that happen?)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 16, 2011 08:57 PM (5QW3T)
Unfortunately you have to go to Lottery Hdqters to cash in.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 16, 2011 04:59 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 05:00 PM (2vy1o)
The majority of commenters here manage to behave themselves without a babysitter.
The 20-30 commenters that are a problem, ban them. Without warning and with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 16, 2011 05:00 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 16, 2011 05:02 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:02 PM (m13yO)
Check your twitter account
Posted by: Anthony's Wiener at June 16, 2011 05:02 PM (GTbGH)
Unless you're using a Mac, like me. I don't get shit!
_________
Firefox can be your friend.
As long as you're willing to kill it ruthlessly when it gets out of control. And it *will* get out of control.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 16, 2011 05:02 PM (6fER6)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 16, 2011 05:03 PM (EiH7n)
Posted by: weiner to mini-weiner at June 16, 2011 05:03 PM (kGf7l)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:03 PM (m13yO)
Do it or not, but please stop with the 47th last warning or else.
Another vote for the Amazon thing. I just gave somebody else a cut because you've got no link.
Posted by: MarkD at June 16, 2011 05:03 PM (6CLxP)
What did you people DO?
I don't want to get into too many details, but you're probably going to need a new spatula.
Posted by: Warden at June 16, 2011 05:05 PM (jk97N)
I never post comments here , EVER, so I guess I'm kind of a lurker. Ace, ban away. Don't lose what you have worked so hard for over a few nitwits who don't have a lick of common sense. Stop playing footsie with them a pull the trigger. Bring the thunder!
Posted by: Jed at June 16, 2011 05:05 PM (DFNGd)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 05:06 PM (2vy1o)
This is my favorite non-porn website. I don't normaly read the comments section, but if you have 900+ post threads you could defineatly cull the herd and suffer no ill effects. If you think you're on the ban list than you probably are.... assholes come to the realization that they're assholes early in life, so it will be of no surprise to them when they are banned.
-Screw 'em.
Posted by: Go! at June 16, 2011 05:06 PM (JrUrv)
________
When you don't get the icons, among the icons you don't get is the "let me just type the stupid HTML" icon.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 16, 2011 05:08 PM (6fER6)
Posted by: Arizona State Parole Board at June 16, 2011 05:08 PM (dbYHP)
I don't want to get into too many details, but you're probably going to need a new spatula.
...and you are out of BEER.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2011 05:09 PM (2SuMg)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:10 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 05:10 PM (afUO8)
You and I must have showed up around the same time. It's been an interesting journey.
Back then, Allah had a killer schtick
Charles Johnson was cool
Bill in INDC had a great thing going
Moxie was the most biting gal around
All that has changed, but Ace is still going strong.
Posted by: Clueless at June 16, 2011 05:10 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 05:10 PM (2vy1o)
A) Help out and at least call the idiots out to their faces, they likely post and leave but it will still help when reporters/advertisers/etc look at the blog
B) Stay Funny, it's the blogs strength.
C) Support Ace, send him money since he's lost the ad revenue, even if it's a dollar or two.
D) If you think something like "Maybe this comment is too much" before you post it, it probably IS, don't post it.
E) Ace isn't the government, you do NOT have 'free speech' rights here (or any private place for that matter).
Chances of this being read are low as the post is SO far down, but hopefully some people will see this and kick some bucks to Ace for everything he does.
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 05:10 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 09:00 PM (2vy1o)
OK, I did it before, but I thought it was worth a repeat in this context.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2011 05:10 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 16, 2011 05:12 PM (npr0X)
Chances of this being read are low as the post is SO far down, but hopefully some people will see this and kick some bucks to Ace for everything he does.
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 09:10 PM (8qoUN)
I'm one of those weird posters/readers who do read the posts on long threads and I'll second your suggestion to kick some bucks Ace's way.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 05:13 PM (otfJ1)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:14 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Guy who always hated Billy Jack at June 16, 2011 05:16 PM (XVT73)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 16, 2011 08:12 PM (GJ05Q)
Hi-dee-ho. I'm a timid lurker who posted in the other similar thread and then ran away. I do love me some Ace. He's a fine guy. And I love reading the comments...I laugh myself silly and like dagny, have seldom been offended. If I don't like something, I just blip on over it. Or RUN AWAY...
:hikesupskirtandrunsawayfasterthanbefore:
Posted by: Goody-Two-Shoes Lurker at June 16, 2011 05:16 PM (1wih5)
Just sent 30 bucks.. I usually do it once a year but money has been tight, However I might start doing it every 1-3 months.... this blog is worth supporting, where the HECK else am I gonna go
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 05:18 PM (8qoUN)
<It is my job, too, to cultivate the sort of community where people want to join in the fun.>
Period.
This shit is supposed to be enjoyable to political nerds. You kill the buzz, you leave.
Posted by: CJ at June 16, 2011 05:19 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: dagny at June 16, 2011 05:20 PM (d8J/u)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:23 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at June 16, 2011 05:23 PM (y/+eD)
Mia Culpa.
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 05:24 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 05:25 PM (8qoUN)
>> Dave In Texas' cheerleader pictures are, believe it or not, carefully screened by him to be sort of innocent but in a very special way not innocent at all.
Well, they are carefully screened by me.
But I get no response at all to my call for "tryouts".
>> Ice Station Zebra.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 16, 2011 05:26 PM (Wh0W+)
Not to stomp on Rum's stompy boots but I've found that my thigh high patents tend to create powerlessness in some folks.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 08:55 PM (otfJ1)
Hey now, before everybody runs off and leaves...
...pics or it never happened!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 05:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: stuiec at June 16, 2011 05:28 PM (/2Yhs)
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 05:30 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Rightwingva at June 16, 2011 05:30 PM (2vy1o)
Not to stomp on Rum's stompy boots but I've found that my thigh high patents tend to create powerlessness in some folks.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 08:55 PM (otfJ1)
Hey now, before everybody runs off and leaves...
...pics or it never happened!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 09:27 PM (bxiXv)
I'm not going to ask my son to take pictures. That said, in a couple of weeks, I'll get a friend to take pics and I'll post them at the group site.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 05:31 PM (otfJ1)
Another 3 yr lurker here. One, maybe two comments in that time. So a suggestion from someone who has watched the lab rats without contributing.
Possibly using some cheerleader type background, or boobies as the backdrop, post the following warning for the commenters who insist on going Full Retard.
"I come in peace. I didnÂ’t bring artillery. But IÂ’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, IÂ’ll kill you all. " Marine Gen. James Mattis.
Hard to" misunderstand" that one.
Posted by: mathishard at June 16, 2011 05:31 PM (XQSTq)
Posted by: zanne at June 16, 2011 05:31 PM (Ot6xc)
Posted by: Angiotensin-converting enzyme at June 16, 2011 05:34 PM (9/lhd)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 05:35 PM (dbYHP)
Lurkers, please, jump on in more often. You will find yourselves welcomed warmly and you'll have a whole bunch more fakey-internet-friends. Win/win.
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 05:35 PM (afUO8)
Posted by: Thereddianthus at June 16, 2011 05:35 PM (KqUSP)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:36 PM (m13yO)
I'm not going to ask my son to take pictures. That said, in a couple of weeks, I'll get a friend to take pics and I'll post them at the group site.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 09:31 PM (otfJ1)
You see, that kind of thing makes sure we'll keep coming back.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 05:37 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: brak at June 16, 2011 05:37 PM (nIoiW)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 16, 2011 05:37 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 09:36 PM (m13yO)
....which, coincidentally, also involved two finger swipe gestures....
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2011 05:38 PM (kaalw)
But this thread pissed me off because of the way some people are treating Ace/et.al.
I've offered my help (I'm a VERY senior systems architect/administrator) and sent money, I just thought I'd add my two cents (and without much humor).
I WILL try to follow my own advice too (unless Ace or a co-blogger tells me to jump in a lake).
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 05:39 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at June 16, 2011 05:39 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:40 PM (m13yO)
Great place to learn and get smarter and stronger and faster. Big gap between professional writers and wannabe's. Same as professional golfers. You can be pretty damned good once in a while, but the big leagues just aren't in the future. This topic and thread tells me that "the line" is what I should remind myself of and be mindful about twelve beers into an Ace thread.
Posted by: I Can Top That But I Don't Know When To Say When Even At A Construction Site at June 16, 2011 05:42 PM (NjVr8)
LMAO cthulhu! Good one.
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 09:40 PM (m13yO)
If you're going to do a bump and set, I'm supposed to stand at the net with my thumb up my kiester? It was just hangin' there.
Posted by: cthulhu at June 16, 2011 05:43 PM (kaalw)
Wow, so cool to see so many lurkers de-lurking this evening. A fine day for America, what with the end of the Weiner era, the Senate voting in a bipartisan way to kill the ethanol subsidies, and the happy prospect of a few resident assholes being sent packing.
Amen. I love it when the lurkers come out.
It's a shame it only happens on the ban threads.
Posted by: Ben at June 16, 2011 05:43 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:44 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: The Drizzle at June 16, 2011 05:47 PM (phaai)
I like pie.
Posted by: OldDominion Minion at June 16, 2011 09:44 PM (0xDTu)
I detest stupid people that recycle memes from circa 1993 AOL days, like, "I like pie"
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:48 PM (x3YFz)
Nan
Posted by: Lee at June 16, 2011 05:48 PM (BD1aO)
Ace-
Some folks, regardless of whether they are conservative, libertarian, liberal or anarcho-fascist, are extremely difficult people first and foremost who refuse to read and follow the minimum rules of common decency. And it's all fun and games until somebody puts an eye out.
Posted by: Minuteman at June 16, 2011 05:51 PM (bK0e2)
Still, I agree with joejm65 about the hotair approach; if somebody breaks the rules, they're instantly banned with no explanation. It's fine.
You know what ace's problem is? He feels guilty about banning people. But, come on. It's not like evicting somebody from their home.
Posted by: sandy burger at June 16, 2011 05:51 PM (XyoGP)
"I'm a gun-toting, pro-life, hetero-kinky, pro-gay-marriage defense contractor with an interest in Eastern religions and philosophy with a tolerance for and/or appreciation of all walks of life. I'd like to hand you a flower but believe we need to be holding bake sales to build bombers. Confused? Imagine what it's like in my head!"
You know, first you got me with lust ... now you got me with extreme lust!
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 09:44 PM (m13yO)
Ack! You went to my bloggity spot! I know there aren't a lot of recent posts there. I'm really not a slacker. I'm taking five classes this semester; I work full-time; and I'm dealing with storm clean-up and repair from the April tornados. Despite my lack of posting, I am, usually, a really Wurdibitsch.
Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at June 16, 2011 05:51 PM (otfJ1)
I'm sitting in Hooters and it looks like I'm molesting my iPhone
Now you're doing it right!
Click on the number to refresh.
That might work on the Kindle...
Posted by: Mama AJ at June 16, 2011 05:52 PM (XdlcF)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 16, 2011 05:52 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Gordo at June 16, 2011 05:54 PM (UiYzp)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 05:55 PM (m13yO)
Ace, three things:
1) Ban whoever needs to be banned. Period. When I argue with my lefty friends, your arguments are usually the most incisive, but I hesitate to link to you, b/c I fear someone in the comments will give my friends the excuse to dismiss your comment out of hand.
2) Keep doing what you're doing. Keep blogging. For the first time in a long time, I feel like our side has some momentum going in the culture at large.
3) Please set up the Amazon thingee the others mentioned way upthread. I order from Amazon at least once a month, and I have been ordering through Instapundit's links. I'd love, however, for you to get some of those sweet, sweet Amazon pennies from me.
Posted by: Long Time Reader, First Time Commenter at June 16, 2011 05:55 PM (ApuJD)
It's just like certain things I ordered from Japan.
________
So *you're* the one who imported kudzu!
Posted by: Anachronda at June 16, 2011 05:55 PM (6fER6)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 05:56 PM (dbYHP)
So true. He really agonizes about it. It's painful to see. Probably just as well that he did not go for a military or law enforcement career.
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 05:57 PM (afUO8)
Posted by: Goody-Two-Shoes Lurker at June 16, 2011 05:58 PM (1wih5)
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 07:19 PM (x3YFz)
you're a vet? I keep reading your name as 'Tangerine".
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2011 07:21 PM (z1N6a)
perhaps you can't read? Those vowels are pretty tough to get a handle on. For the slow folks.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 05:59 PM (x3YFz)
I rarely comment. There's a pretty good community of people who are familiar with one another, and I'm usually content with reading the front page. When I do hit this side, I am amused, enlightened and very, very occasionally offended. I don't care who the bad actors are: they just need to stay gone. The crew here does an outstanding job all around, and don't deserve to be impugned by these wanna-be morons.
Is there some widget you can install that would prevent hide-my-ip abuse?
Thanks for running a great site.
Posted by: RosalindJ at June 16, 2011 06:01 PM (PsVcR)
Why is it that you don't simply auto-dump/filter certain post comments / trollposters?
BTW, Malkin uses 'comment registry' to keep troll traffic at manageable levels.
Great site. Many thanks.
Posted by: Ran at June 16, 2011 06:01 PM (xSeWe)
Posted by: Donna at June 16, 2011 06:02 PM (bdE9c)
You know what would be nice?
To tell someone, after a few friendly wave-offs, "perhaps this isn't the place for you".
And for them to respect that, and move on.
You know what? The kind of person we're talking about will not do that.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 16, 2011 06:03 PM (Wh0W+)
So true. He really agonizes about it. It's painful to see. Probably just as well that he did not go for a military or law enforcement career.
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 09:57 PM (afUO
Or. he likes providing freedom to the people that post here, and is troubled at the thought of having to go postal on a few bad apples.
Denigrating Ace because *you think* he doesn't have a military or LE life experience is petty. Back the fuck up.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:03 PM (x3YFz)
It's getting surlier in here than a locker room full of PMSing second string PETA activists.
Posted by: sifty at June 16, 2011 06:06 PM (2dbd9)
I worked in Jersey a few years and we'd do the ball-breaking is the state sport thing at the lunch table. One older guy was in the don't even mess with category. Literally cleared the table a few times.
Posted by: Dave at June 16, 2011 06:07 PM (BUfoO)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 06:10 PM (m13yO)
I like pie.
--------------
I am a within a hair of asking Ace to declare that comment offensive.
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at June 16, 2011 06:11 PM (FVhEi)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 06:13 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: John King, Super Moderator at June 16, 2011 06:13 PM (2ptZ1)
Denigrating Ace because *you think* he doesn't have a military or LE life experience is petty. Back the fuck up.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 10:03 PM (x3YFz)
Whoa, tangonine! I have never, would never, denigrate Ace. I hold him in the very highest esteem. But I have witnessed, many many times, the way he truly, sincerely agonizes over banning people who clearly should be shown the door. That's all I meant. Some people are uneasy when it comes time to pull the trigger and it usually means the assholes win and it sometimes means we lose one of the good guys. You know what I'm sayin' here, right?
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 06:14 PM (afUO8)
I kind of half to defend Peaches here.
She could be being a total ------. But I can't conclude that based on the one comment.
Ace can be pretty emotional, like when he freaked out about the economy and the urgent necessity for TARP or what have you, even though ideologically he is smart. I think Ace is doing what he's meant to do, and I hope one day he does it on a bigger and higher level: greater audience, more money, different venue even maybe one day.
I don't think it's shameful to be a brilliantly funny writer with sharp political analysis skills and a heart, who enjoys building a community of likeminded people, and a strong supporter of both law enforcement and the U.S. military to boot.
Maybe he would have been a great soldier. I don't know.
But if it turns out he is a much better blogger, then good. I love good cops and military members, but they are NOT the only good and important people in the world! A fact I am sure they are well aware of and mostly agree with.
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 10:10 PM (m13yO)
Yeah, Ace gets emotional sometimes, and says crazy shit. Know what? So do I. The whole premise that if he'd been in the military or been a cop, he'd be tougher on people is just fucking silly and insulting. Petty shit.
Dude provides a service, he posts what's on his mind and in his heart. Don't like it? Don't read it and don't post here.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:14 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 06:15 PM (8qoUN)
Again, tangonine, you completely misconstrued what I said.
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 06:17 PM (afUO8)
No, I disagree. In the context of this blog, and considering the ideas discussed, a certain minimum level of intelligence is assumed. If Ace has a problem with some of the commenters, he should bet on malice.
Posted by: Jack at June 16, 2011 06:18 PM (kCT7A)
Denigrating Ace because *you think* he doesn't have a military or LE life experience is petty. Back the fuck up.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 10:03 PM (x3YFz)
Whoa,
tangonine! I have never, would never, denigrate Ace. I hold him in
the very highest esteem. But I have witnessed, many many times, the way
he truly, sincerely agonizes over banning people who clearly should be
shown the door. That's all I meant. Some people are uneasy when it
comes time to pull the trigger and it usually means the assholes win and
it sometimes means we lose one of the good guys. You know what I'm
sayin' here, right?
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 10:14 PM (afUO
Peaches, having put a ton of thought into this reply (that means about 2 minutes and 2 more drinks of coffee):
Some people are uneasy when it comes time to pull the trigger. But we're not in Fallujah.
Most trolls here are driven off by commenters like you and I and the rest of the moron nation. We self-police this blog fairly well.
The time and effort it takes to maintain this site (and I know this, having failed at a blog) is significant. The fact that Ace has been as accommodating as he has been speaks volumes for his character. I think you get what I'm getting at. I just took exception to you implying that he was weak because he didn't have a military or law enforcement background, and that's just not fair.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:20 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: The Drizzle at June 16, 2011 06:20 PM (phaai)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 06:21 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: TimothyJ at June 16, 2011 06:23 PM (w7YPP)
Posted by: Viv Lee at June 16, 2011 06:24 PM (MqLH6)
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:24 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: TimothyJ at June 16, 2011 10:23 PM (w7YPP)
did it.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:25 PM (x3YFz)
Peaches, I know what you were getting at, and I know you meant well. Night.
Keep your heads down and your powder dry.
Posted by: tangonine at June 16, 2011 06:28 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 06:29 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 06:31 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 06:32 PM (afUO8)
I was going to add something profound...but I think it better to just sit on the sidelines tonight and watch this amazing, spontaneous, ONT play out.
Posted by: Richard at June 16, 2011 06:33 PM (Jo4Y0)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 06:34 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 06:35 PM (m13yO)
As far as any racial aspect in referring to Michelle Obama with the terms Wookie or Lt. Whorf- I never saw that and was stunned to hear people assert that. And anyway, as I said upthread, I've never before made any comments on her appearance and only did so today as another commenter broached that topic.
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 06:37 PM (/IW23)
If you start riding a bicycle (and talking about riding and taking pictures of your bike) AND/OR grow a pony tail (unless you have one now) AND/OR start posting pictures of nature you've taken that you framed and compose as if they're ART(Y) then I'm leaving.
BTW how about a list of the a**holes? Or is that useless information since they can sock puppet?
Sometimes a group can self police quite adequately.
Then we can snitch on them and watch them get the ban hammer.
Posted by: Nameless at June 16, 2011 06:38 PM (fiLQD)
Posted by: Emil at June 16, 2011 06:43 PM (pMICI)
Posted by: Matt Bramanti at June 16, 2011 06:45 PM (p+YbL)
Posted by: Emil at June 16, 2011 06:46 PM (pMICI)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 06:48 PM (m13yO)
I really enjoy this blog: Ace and the other co-bloggers are informative and smart. I lurk more than I post, but I usually read the comments because some of the regulars are quite witty. However, making fun or criticizing someone due their physical appearance is stupid at best.
Just my two cents-worth, if someone can't take a hint from Ace on what he finds acceptable then Ace just needs to give that person the boot.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at June 16, 2011 06:52 PM (S2+uh)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 06:52 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 06:55 PM (m13yO)
A. Does this mean that, when all the dust settles and the wheat and chaff are separated, Funny Man will be funny again?
B. Ace, go get yourself a cold libation of some kind and a busty lesbian movie.
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at June 16, 2011 06:55 PM (GZd5J)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 06:56 PM (dbYHP)
I'm sorry you have to spend 90% of your time on 10% of the commenters.
Posted by: Cameron at June 16, 2011 06:58 PM (C+k3p)
I just wanted to come in here and say "your blog, your rules." We're all counting on you.
Posted by: Dr. Rumack at June 16, 2011 07:00 PM (G7Jng)
getting banned at LGF requires only "breathing while not being part of BikeBoy the jazzFlautist's uni-mind".....
the rest is details bub
Posted by: sven10077 at June 16, 2011 07:01 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 07:02 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:03 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:05 PM (dbYHP)
LOL, I almost said this last night, and then I thought I would (that you seem to be an uncommonly kind and genuine person, GT), but now I see you are just another perv . . .
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 07:10 PM (afUO8)
I guess even shit about Scandi's is now off limits.
Cash out Ace everyone else has, whore.
Posted by: For Sale at June 16, 2011 07:11 PM (SWtGf)
That is what I wish to learn from YOU.
*arranges dentistry tools*Posted by: Herr Doktor Szell, DDS at June 16, 2011 07:12 PM (HMdeP)
OH that's not what you mean by interesting, nevermind.
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 07:12 PM (8qoUN)
I believe my original comment about Michelle Obama was in reply to you and your comment about being put off by the "wookie" and "whorf" comments that would show up on this and many other Rightwing blogs. I didn't run you down for feeling that way, but just gave my own personal feeling as to why I why I didn't think it so scandalous or offensive, and had no idea my Michelle the Moose reference would invite such a rebuke, as she's still sometimes referred to here and other blogs as "Moochelle" and such.
I've given Ace and the co-bloggers plenty of shit before, but it's always over specifically a disagreement over a particular stand they are taking and it's never(or only rarely) drive-by insults that don't attempt to add to the discussion.
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 07:15 PM (/IW23)
You're just being a douchebag. And, as far as your "original comment" goes, there wasn't a damn thing "original" about it. STFU.
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 07:19 PM (afUO8)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:19 PM (dbYHP)
I used to be in sales, and my dad ran an insurance agency. HE never wanted to make a lot of money - just to make enough in to be comfortable and take care of his family while spending as little time on it and having as few hassles as possible (as I get older, I get that more and more). He drummed the 80/20 rule into me: 20% of your customers cause 80% of your problems. And you're better off without them. The time and energy you save by not dealing with them will let you spend more time on making money (and playing cards with your friends). And even if not, you'll feel so much better not having to deal with idiot troublemakers.
The 80/20 rule seems to apply everywhere I look. 20% of my students cause 80% of my problems (it's probably more lik3 90/10 or 95/5); 20% of my students ask 80% of the questions. 20% of my students give me 80% of the satisfaction I get from this job. And so on.
So, unless there's a compelling reason to keep the offenders (and I doubt there is), I say it's time for the banhammer of justice. That and heads on pikes outside the city walls.
But please, please, please publish names -- and reasons for banning.
You've got yourself a nice joint here. Shame to let it go downhill for the sake of a few idiots who don't know how to behave. I don;t like to be the cop in my classroom either. But if I let standards slide, next thing you know, it's become a friggin kindergarten class. So, I act the bad guy because someone has to be in charge. The mature students appreciate it. As for the rest, them and their horses.
Wil Wheaton (and I know you get the reference) may be a libtard at times, but "Wheaton's Rule" is worth following: "DON'T BE A DICK".
So if someone is violating the rule, screw em. But name names. How about a post with the wall of shame?
Keep up the good work, little ewok. You're appreciated. And more cheerleader pix.
Posted by: RightWingProf at June 16, 2011 07:21 PM (avT4H)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:22 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:23 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:27 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 07:28 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Teh Schlippynuts at June 16, 2011 07:28 PM (w2Ccd)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:31 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: docweasel at June 16, 2011 07:32 PM (G92eR)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 16, 2011 07:33 PM (/zYUh)
Posted by: RightWingProf at June 16, 2011 07:33 PM (avT4H)
Not every comment is a gem, of course, but it's just silly to suggest otherwise. I am literally told by every other blogger (and every other blog reader) the comments section here beats all others to hell.
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 07:27 PM (nj1bB)
Ace-
This is somewhat subjective. This is my second favorite blog for insightful comments (I'm partial to the Belmont Club), but I spend more time here because it's like I left one guy's office where we discuss things in depth and really hash it out, but then I come down the hall here to your office to get a more entertaining take and and some goofing off with these other guys (because life can't always be so damn serious). To carry the office analogy further, the folks that don't understand that there's a line in commenting are like those assholes who think its funny to come into your office while we're joking around about whatever, and clear the room by ripping a nasty. Yeah, that's real funny to those jerks. Lock the door on their disgusting asses so we don't have to put up with their stink. Ostrasization is the only remedy for their anti-social behavior.
Posted by: Minuteman at June 16, 2011 07:35 PM (bK0e2)
Posted by: Evil_Bun_Bun at June 16, 2011 07:38 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Phelps at June 16, 2011 07:39 PM (ACp4b)
Posted by: Robespierre at June 16, 2011 07:40 PM (RxKkR)
Posted by: cheshirecat at June 16, 2011 07:43 PM (r2SLq)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:51 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 07:54 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Dave Chappelle at June 16, 2011 08:00 PM (JKX4x)
Posted by: Peaches at June 16, 2011 08:01 PM (afUO8)
a2 - This Is Not Your House
a3 - only use profanity if it's funny. it's not funny if no one else is laughing.
a4 - a small naval attack aircraft
a5 - IFF stands for Identify Friend or Foe, not Interdict Friendly Forces
a6 - all 'ettes are hot
a7 - a small naval attack aircraft, but not as small as an a4
a8 - double-check your links before you post to avoid AAAAAHHHH!
a9 - there is no rule a9
and so forth...
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 16, 2011 08:16 PM (bxiXv)
a10 - Go easy on Curious, because she's not all there.
Posted by: Minuteman at June 16, 2011 08:01 PM (bK0e2)
Yeah, I get blue in stuff every so oft (especially if it comes to Sarah Palin), but even someone like me knows that when you start getting too blue, you get the blazes outta Dodge for a few days.
If I've been part of the problem, ace, my apologies and I'll try to comment less (but make up for it with good quality, instead of shi'ite.
If I have not been part of the problem, then I believe it would be time for some busty redhead lingerie photos.
Game ON!
Posted by: Pipe Barackage at June 16, 2011 08:03 PM (4WbQ8)
well because she said racist things against Whites, then it's okay for us to make racist jokes about her.
I wasn't making that point at all. I'm saying that because she inserted herself into the campaign and made many scandalous and downright stupid comments, and was thrust upon us in such a way- that she opened herself up to ridicule that would usually be off limits regarding family members of candidates. I never said it was ok to use racial epithets or any type of downlow dog whistle type racist comments and I don't see the Whorf and Wookie comments as racist. They are not digs at her for being Black, but for being large and ungainly and generally unpleasant. When I referenced her previous racist statements, I was not saying this opened her up to racist attacks. Now that I've gone back and reread the comments, I can see how you've gotten that impression, but it's wrong. And I was not saying that people should keep attacking her on this blog, only that I understood why some people felt driven to vent like that.
You're ascribing to me some motive or feeling that I don't have.
Posted by: sartana at June 16, 2011 08:08 PM (/IW23)
Is Hadji the Muslim Comic banned or not?
Posted by: The Q at June 16, 2011 08:08 PM (NdE8F)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 08:13 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: RJ at June 16, 2011 08:18 PM (QjrRF)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 08:22 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 08:25 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Random at June 16, 2011 08:30 PM (m13yO)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 08:33 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at June 16, 2011 08:37 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Ragnell at June 16, 2011 08:50 PM (c4tXj)
Posted by: cherry π at June 16, 2011 08:53 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: norrin radd at June 16, 2011 09:09 PM (rlhxT)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at June 16, 2011 09:12 PM (jn3w5)
So, Haiku is not forbidden anymore, right? Just pointless racisim and unusually bad language, right?!
I feel the easy rules
lift away the bulk of my anxiety.
Spring cleaning comes to AoSHQ.
Posted by: Errol at June 16, 2011 09:16 PM (uAzAD)
Posted by: Squawkbox_Noise at June 16, 2011 09:32 PM (W4wnR)
Ace, I first thought you had overblown this issue and were possibly getting paid by the word for this post due to some bet. Now that I see how much comment traffic you generated, I prostrate myself in recognition of your genius.
Oh, and I would have banned all of them sooner. Ban them now and don't post the names. Don't give them the satisafaction of noteriety.
Posted by: Meremortal at June 16, 2011 09:50 PM (7FgWm)
I preemptively ban myself for insubordination.
Posted by: Flounder at June 16, 2011 09:55 PM (Kkt/i)
Anyway, point is I haven't been commenting much. I DID , however, comment in the thread where Ace gave his first warning about the girl. At the time, I was confused on what constituted baseless speculation. I still think I was fine in my line of commentary, I made no speculations on individuals. I just commented on statements made, and referenced my own life experiences. Nevertheless, other people clearly crossed the line...and nobody wants to associate themselves with people making ridiculous arguments. I figured , after the situation died down, we could have a discussion on what the lines are. The problem is that overbearing rhetoric ruins discourse, because actual questions look like rationalizations and excuses. And if the hateful shit never dies down, then the legitimate questions are drowned to death by the tidal wave of "X agrees with you, You sound just like X!". It's just like how legitimate questions on race relations run into claims of racism, because "Racists make that argument too!"
Speaking of race relations, I get away with a LOT of edgy commentary in my community because people know who I am. Plus, I bring "teh thoughtfulness" and know how to make a cogent point without sounding emotional or hypersensitive. On websites like this, I have no reputation and image to protect me from misunderstandings. Therefore, I try to act carefully. Back home, all my boys know me. They know I don't have a racist bone in my body. Online? As Crazee, not Josh whatevermylastnameis? Nothing. I'm just a dude with a screen name. Plus, in real life my speech is entirely my own. On here, I'm just a faceless commenter. People are more likely to associate my words with Ace than "Crazee".
Normally, I'd actually have taken advantage of a free night and ONT'd. I'm too tired, now. I need to get back to wishing my intelligence wasn't wasted in menial retail work. No offense to anyone doing that stuff, I just wish my thoughtful pontificating actually went anywhere.
Posted by: Crazee at June 16, 2011 10:10 PM (H3ujh)
Your various proposals on eliminating the wreckers are quite amusing, coming from those who have lurked in the shadows. As always, it is the shirker who bays loudest for blood; The malingerer who never got his party card who seeks to expound on doctrine.
The Great Builder does not labor alone, for he has many helpers. Some of those helpers are less helpful than others, but they are giving according to their ability. There are less helpers than there ought to be, judging by the fervent proclamations and unasked-for-advice from those who have never before deigned to address us. Where are these legions of good upstanding comrades when the day to day business of the Great Builder is being done? Why do they appear only when the Great Builder chastises those helpers who have gone astray? It is odd, is it not, that those opportunists who pontificate most fervently against wreckers are themselves previously unknown to us, and appear only when there is someone to denounce?
Posted by: Nikolai Ivanovich Yezhov at June 16, 2011 10:11 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Crazee at June 16, 2011 10:29 PM (H3ujh)
Posted by: mastour at June 16, 2011 11:37 PM (ola7r)
Posted by: wankette at June 17, 2011 12:17 AM (CrYip)
YÂ’know what?
Intolerance, when correctly applied, is what enables a functional civil society and the basis of culture. People who do not understand this notion are generally childlike (or actual children). Intolerance creates that which we agree to share regarding criteria for expected decorum, civility, and acceptable behavior (“lubricant”).
As we grow up, it is understood that certain personal responsibilities
are required to be a member of this American society. In fact, the contention
that causes the most strife in Politics are defining the rationale for that
which we should be held accountable. Those that refuse to acknowledge this
reality are generally mental defects (i.e. hippie liberals that obstinately persist in having absolutely
no frame of reference for their particular beliefs or conduct).
Posted by: Pieter Nosworthy at June 17, 2011 12:58 AM (rZfjf)
Posted by: Paul at June 17, 2011 01:48 AM (ix2UW)
You make a point that is rather pointless. "Lurkers", like myself, are folks that have been following this site for some time for reasons they alone can explain. Why are you here? Blog content, self esteem, or perhaps lonely?
Most enjoy the authors' POV and capacity for communication and humor, camaraderie of the commenters, and everyone's general civility and level of banter. Check it out, despite what you might think...the ego that you enjoy is not the measure of your intellect. Honest.
Did I mention that your discourse is without substance or purpose? Well, lately it is.
Posted by: Pieter Nosworthy at June 17, 2011 02:46 AM (rZfjf)
Posted by: Jack at June 17, 2011 02:52 AM (kCT7A)
Posted by: Michale Eric Dyson at June 17, 2011 02:53 AM (kCT7A)
Posted by: Jack at June 17, 2011 02:56 AM (kCT7A)
Well I am usually just happy to lurk, however I can sense how the appearance of hypocrisy can cause such awful discomfort when doing something similar to what LGF did.
I have to say I have read some of the funniest comments at this blog.
Posted by: BFD at June 17, 2011 03:24 AM (Ta8aq)
Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at June 17, 2011 03:28 AM (h6mPj)
Posted by: jmp at June 17, 2011 03:28 AM (ZtcBv)
Posted by: Mark Zuckerberg at June 17, 2011 03:32 AM (kCT7A)
This bastard has got me dead to rights. F****** psychics. They see right through me.
Posted by: Jack at June 17, 2011 03:35 AM (kCT7A)
Something that just occurred to me with your flurry of posts on this: the troll content at all the BIG sites on breitbart.com has risen exponentially with the Weiner story.
Even though the complaints you have about the misbehavior here have to do with racial trolling, there may be nothing really RACIAL about it.
You might be getting attention from the KosBots types as punishment for your excellent coverage of Weiner, and racial is the medium they've chosen for you to suffer with.
I'd bring down the banhammer HARD on anyone who continues, and have no regrets.
Posted by: barbarausa at June 17, 2011 03:57 AM (gRgC6)
It's comparable to poachers. Permission to hunt someone's land doesn't mean you own the land, or can take five does, or dunkenly blast away indiscriminately.
Sometimes poachers get fined. And sometimes poachers get shot and then buried in a tangled corner of the property and are never heard from again. Or missed. By anyone.
Posted by: -Shawn- at June 17, 2011 04:47 AM (p7YrL)
Okay, Ace, do you have any ridiculous rules around here that I can protest because I'm so fucking smart?
Posted by: Captain Oblivious at June 17, 2011 04:59 AM (HPcQF)
13 Ace is clearly right. This is a property right's issue. I thought we conservatives were in favor of those.
Yes.
But he allows comments. Those are owned by the commenter. I certainly haven't assigned copyright to Ace, Inc.
As I see it, Ace has two options: bring out the ban hammer and smack those 20-30 commenters, or simply close the comments.
Also, I've heard that Ace has twit-pic'd him in a hot tub full pudding to Marco Rubio.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 17, 2011 05:14 AM (1hM1d)
13 Ace is clearly right. This is a property right's issue. I thought we conservatives were in favor of those.
Yes.
But he allows comments. Those are owned by the commenter. I certainly haven't assigned copyright to Ace, Inc.
I'd check a lawyer on that copyright argument. I don't thing that's correct (note: I'm not a lawyer type). From what I recall, blog owners have the right to edit comments. If that's correct, there's no copyright.
After all, if I go into someone's house and leave a deuce on the floor, it doesn't mean I retain ownership of it.
His house, his rules. If you don't care for it, leave your "product" elsewhere.
Posted by: RightWingProf at June 17, 2011 05:30 AM (avT4H)
Posted by: Snake Oil Baron at June 17, 2011 05:58 AM (KaCry)
Posted by: Anonymoose at June 17, 2011 06:00 AM (ZgvjV)
You're absol-f'ing-lutely correct, Ace. You've shown much more patience and restraint than I would have thought possible. If someone comes into my house and defecates in the punchbowl, I would ban them. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I've lurked for several years, and commented only rarely (I typically don't hvae anything all that witty to say that would advance the conversation).
One of the reasons I rarely post is the irritation I get from Trolls. If you do start banning, I will actually like it here more. Of course, if the Trolls chill so that you don't have to ban them, I will still like it more.
Posted by: DocAnvil at June 17, 2011 06:01 AM (JUwNh)
Posted by: an erection lasting longer than four hours at June 17, 2011 06:07 AM (1c0W9)
1243
I don't think your copyright argument is correct. If my understanding of copyright is correct, copyright just means that Ace could not use your comment without atribution; Ace is free to ban a troublesome person.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at June 17, 2011 06:23 AM (S2+uh)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 17, 2011 06:32 AM (VyQw1)
Posted by: skeeterbait at June 17, 2011 06:41 AM (hTkK/)
Posted by: Cranky at June 17, 2011 06:46 AM (M2Z8t)
Does this mean that speculating about Weiner's teenage twitter pals is okay again?
Posted by: Joe at June 17, 2011 06:47 AM (AxdeT)
Posted by: Helen Loomis at June 17, 2011 06:47 AM (Zu3Dg)
One exception: if you're Chris Rock, you can do edgy racial humor. Something tells me Chris is not in the house very often.
Let fall the BanMjollnir. What part of House Rules/Management Reserves The Right to Refuse Service is unclear?
There may be no alternative to registration, frankly.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at June 17, 2011 06:50 AM (W54Uh)
We had leftists show up at our Tempe Tea Party meeting and start stumping for the marines to "take down" Obama. They did not get the response from us that they were hoping for.
These people are evil, and the first thing that evil people do is tell harmful lies. If they'll do it in person, undoubtedly looking for a sound byte that could be used to discredit us, then they'll most definitely do it online, and in far greater numbers.
Posted by: Lee Reynolds at June 17, 2011 06:50 AM (5KnyG)
Posted by: Miller at June 17, 2011 06:55 AM (/Rely)
Posted by: pendejo grande at June 17, 2011 07:08 AM (+4h51)
Posted by: Shoey/Sgt Batguano at June 17, 2011 07:21 AM (jdOk/)
I'd check a lawyer on that copyright argument.
The Berne Convention is pretty straight forward: creating a work infers automatic copyright. And US Code Title 17 is quite clear on assignments.
Yes, Ace, Inc. is final arbriter if my comments get published or flushed down the memory hole. And you can't violate copyright by not publishing the material. But the contents belong to the commenter and to the commenter alone.
If I make a libelous comment, then I alone am liable for any legal consequences - not Ace, not you, nor the rest of the moronosphere. As it should be.
Again, Ace has two lines of recourse: bring out the ban hammer, and whack the troublemakers, or bring out the mega-ban hammer and close the comments.
Of course, Breitbart would stop reading... ;-)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 17, 2011 07:31 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: adc at June 17, 2011 07:53 AM (VCCe8)
Posted by: Mark Shaw at June 17, 2011 08:09 AM (5BnX8)
This is a really tough place to be (Aces shoes). I left another blog because of the race issue. It seems to me and I could be wrong, but some people are making a habit of trying to close down places where one could go to have a good open debate, toss in a cuss words or a racial slang that was on topic but not directed at anyone. ( meaning fellow commenterÂ’s)
There is a time and a place for foul language of all sorts as long as itÂ’s on the TOPIC not aimed at someone.
I donÂ’t envy AOS at all.
Its your sand box . You make the rules.
We either follow them or we get out.
Good luck for what its worth.
Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at June 17, 2011 08:26 AM (nYTrG)
Posted by: ace at June 16, 2011 06:29 PM (nj1bB)
You ain't kiddin'.
Posted by: The Energizer Bunny Thread at June 17, 2011 08:45 AM (WB46i)
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at June 16, 2011 07:46 PM (YxBuk)
I ain't no girly-girl, either.
Posted by: he Biggest Tomboy on the Block at June 17, 2011 08:49 AM (WB46i)
Posted by: Jimbo at June 16, 2011 07:57 PM (O3R/2)
Sanctimony is for pricks.
Posted by: Effective Deep Thinker at June 17, 2011 09:10 AM (WB46i)
Posted by: Rich Fader at June 17, 2011 10:16 AM (SF/wy)
Yes, I've been guilty of salty language in posts, even comments on here. I try to be polite but occasionally I lose my temper and the words fly. I do NOT, however, EVER use racial slurs, sexist slurs, etc. This is because there is a big difference between swearing and using words that have been used in the past to discriminate and even urge monsters on to kill others based on race, religion or political beliefs.
Conservatives have enough problems without genuine bigots attaching themselves to comments and posts on conservative blogs. And it's a hard enough job to keep them out without folks lying and slinking under the radar just waiting for a chance to say something that will give libbies yet more fodder in their war against conservatives.
In the end, however, it is ridiculous that adults have to be herded like a group of toddlers who have just learned the seven words you can't say on TV. I mean, I did daycare and we usually had a couple times of year where new kids to the group would come for the day having learned a new word from one of mommy and daddy's friends. The little creeps would then spend the whole day teaching the smaller ones the word and getting them to say it as often as possible. Eventually I ran out of corners and time out chairs before everyone figured out that I was NOT joking and they were going to get it if they didn't stop spewing the filth. We had a similar problem with little boys going around holding their tools like security blankets. What I'm saying is, the people this post was meant for are behaving like unruly children and it would be nice if they could either grow up or get lost.
I usually lurk here because it's just easier for me to do so. Occasionally I'll get really fired up and post something because I like to discuss these thing with most of you here. But it's really sad to see a topic devolve into a ridiculous mishmash of racial/sexist commentary when in the beginning the discussion was VERY interesting and featured VERY good arguments pro and con.
Thanks, Ace, and all those who have taken on the job of babysitting for so long. We do appreciate this blog and all the information you pass on to us. I, for one, will try to rein in my cussin' in order to help keep things polite. Just know there are TONS Of us out here who appreciate your work and the work of those who help out.
Sincerely,
Mad Monica
Posted by: Mad Monica at June 17, 2011 11:58 AM (m7OAx)
"Course language is for people who are too stupid and ignorant to express their thoughts effectively.
Posted by: Jimbo at June 16, 2011 07:57 PM (O3R/2)""
Posted by: Mad Monica at June 17, 2011 12:01 PM (m7OAx)
Posted by: Forever Alone at June 17, 2011 12:22 PM (O7Q1u)
Posted by: TARZAN Don't Cuss at June 17, 2011 02:59 PM (c4tXj)
When I made my comment about FLOTUS, I was not aware that you issued an edict against that. Apparently that was done some time in the past, and you repeated that earlier in the comments here. This is my fault for posting before reading the story and the comments. It seems that this was also mentioned on other threads in the past few days- which I've missed as I was away from the blog more than usual. So my comment was definitely not made to poke you in the eye, and my other comments disagreeing with the need to moderate and delete comments was not meant as a challenge to the rules, just my opinion on regulating speech in general. There is a full-scale assault on speech going on now- the Dutch politician Geert Wilders has been dragged before a Human Rights Tribunal for no more than accurately quoting passages of the Koran, hate speech laws are being crafted and even passed in certain parts of the US- this is the world we live in. You have to survive and hopefully thrive in it and that's totally understood. My comments above were meant in a "look where we're going as a society" way, as opposed to "I'm not down with your fascist rules" way.
I read in the ONT, that Merivign said to another commenter that I'd been skirting ban-hammer territory for several weeks. This is news to me. The only thing close to a warning I've gotten in the three years I've been commenting here was an invitation to "die in a fire!" by Dave in Texas for insulting MLK JR. on an MLK JR. non-violence thread. If I've been leaving comments that raise red flags with the moderators, I definitely would have commented less on certain topics or tailored my comments to be less inflammatory or laid off altogether. But I would have needed a heads up on what pushing the envelope.
As far as being a "waste of bandwidth", well there's not much to say other than if my name appearing in the comments causes such hurt, then I'll make the hurting stop.
About this so-called "twenty percent" that are ruining the place and need to go- this does not sound at all like the blog I've been reading these past few years. Incidents of clearly offensive comments are so rare that I'm stunned when I read them- and in every instance, other commenters are all over them. So I don't recognize the blog that's being talked about here. Maybe if you analyze every comment with a moderator's eye, you begin to see things in a different way and maybe some things that are not there. If this place were full of bigots and bullies venting their shit- I would not have put in time here.
Posted by: sartana at June 17, 2011 03:21 PM (/IW23)
Well, I hope I will pass the audition, Mr. Ace.
The nastiest I get is the following: "sharia advocate scumbags who like to behead 3 month old babies." I also like to call my foreign policy opponents of the Paulite persuasion "terrorist Catamites."
But I try not to hate for stupid reasons, only on whether people think that setting 9 year old little girls up for rape is acceptable. Sorry, PBUHers and fellow travellers of the Carter and Paul persuasions, it is not.
You do beautiful work.
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