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December 15, 2011

Actual CNN Headline: "Candidates make appeal to anti-abortionists"
— Gabriel Malor

Of course they mean GOP candidates make appeals to "anti-abortionists," but that isn't even remotely what the report actually describes.

Several GOP candidates attended the screening of a pro-life documentary created by Mike Huckabee and Citizens United. They gave short speeches about their pro-life values and pro-life (or "anti-abortion," as the CNN writer, producer Shawna Shepherd, terms it) agendas.

If the candidates made appeals to "anti-abortionists" that is, people particularly opposed to abortionists over and above those simply opposed to abortions, it's not evident from the report. And that's a key distinction.

I hate to go all dog-whistle, but that's exactly what this CNN report is doing. CNN is suggesting that the candidates are appealing to folks like Scott Roeder, the man who gunned down notorious abortion doctor ("abortionist") George Tiller a few years ago.

Liberals have been slowly losing the abortion battle over the course of the past thirty years. Several Supreme Court cases have chipped away at Roe v. Wade and states are increasingly showing a willingness to push the boundaries when it comes to restricting the availability of abortion on demand. My own generation is the most pro-life generation yet.

Just as we're seeing with the global warming lunatics, it's no surprise that pro-abortion activists are getting nastier as they lose ground.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:51 AM | Comments (160)
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1 Does that mean we can call them pro-abortionists now, as opposed to pro-choicers?

Posted by: wiserbud at December 15, 2011 06:54 AM (gCa4h)

Abortions for all.
[crowd boos]
Very well, no abortions for anyone.
[crowd boos]
Hmm... Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others

[crowd cheers and waves miniature flags]

Posted by: Kang at December 15, 2011 06:55 AM (u93Ac)

3 I guess CNN thinks that this will hurt them in the general.

Posted by: Vic at December 15, 2011 06:55 AM (YdQQY)

4 Abortion is a liberal sacrament.

It started off as a way to get rid of "human weeds", became birth control, and is now the preferred weapon against "global climate change".

Which isn't to say that the older uses aren't still valued. by them. It is interesting to see liberals let loss when you ask them about people in the third world who have large families...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 15, 2011 06:55 AM (7BU4a)

5 well, after reading Gabe's last line, I guess I have my answer......

Posted by: wiserbud at December 15, 2011 06:55 AM (gCa4h)

6 I would love a Republican to stand up and say I think our abortion laws should be more like Europe's.

The ensuing mayhem off the ignorant would be hilllarious!

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 06:56 AM (RfvTE)

7 Because choice is a job creating business - Obama 2012!

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at December 15, 2011 06:56 AM (7BU4a)

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 15, 2011 06:58 AM (8y9MW)

9 ...who believes that babies born from failed abortions should be allowed to be left on a shelf and die.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 15, 2011 06:59 AM (8y9MW)

Of course they'll argue they're not pro-ABORTION, they're pro-CHOICE. Nobody in their right mind is actually FOR abortion.

Except everyone's favorite eugenicist Maggie, that is.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate's Wife at December 15, 2011 06:59 AM (B0893)

11 Whats going on with the Iowa polls? They're everywhere.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 15, 2011 06:59 AM (FKQng)

12 Their abortion love is a vestige of their last century love of Euthenasia. Yet another fad of the day that American progressives copy pasted from Europe then crusaded for... only to years later blame everyone but themselves for its ugly mark in history.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 06:59 AM (RfvTE)

13 Whats going on with the Iowa polls? They're everywhere.

Well, I suspect they're only in Iowa, which is hardly "everywhere."

As for their erratic results- that's probably just the Iowans' making the point that they're the chosen ones who get to decide who we'll nominate.

They don't, of course, but it's easier just to smile and nod than to actually argue the point.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 15, 2011 07:00 AM (8y9MW)

14 their last century love of Euthenasia.

Last century? When did it change? "Death Panels," anyone? "Just take a pain pill?" Do either of those ring a bell?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 15, 2011 07:01 AM (8y9MW)

15 correction

Eugenics not Euthanasia

(sorry been up all night)

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:02 AM (RfvTE)

16 I read somewhere that, had doctors known what they know now, Roe v Wade would not have made it to the SC. I forget where I read it, I'll try to find it sometime. Something about medical evidence showing fetuses can feel pain sooner than thought.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:04 AM (zLeKL)

17 Yeah, accusing them of wanting to save lives--that'll sink 'em.

Planned Parenthood is a business--their business model is two parts: 1) They need girls between 13 and 18 to have 3-5 abortions during that span, 2) Federal money.

As with the joke about the Holy Roman Empire--it is neither about planning nor is it about parenthood--it is about making money.

Posted by: Jimmuy at December 15, 2011 07:04 AM (8SQ/2)

18 @Allen

It is interesting that the progressive cause has shifted from Eugenics to Euthanasia. Lock step behind Europes socialists.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:05 AM (RfvTE)

This goes with my pet peeve that it's always pro-choice and anti-abortion and not pro-abortion and pro-life. Because it sure seems to me that those who claim to be pro-choice really only want that choice to go one way. Take the Tebow pro-life ad. That whole drama was one of the most hilarious panting overreactions from the pro-abortion side I've ever seen.

I'm sure if I wasn't so busy horribly lazy I could find the link to an article a few years back by a liberal woman who had a Down's child in which she discusses the reactions by those who she thought were her friends to the fact that she actually had the child after the amnio revealed the child had Down's. It puts the not so concealed eugenics side of it right out front.

Then there was the woman who wrote the piece in the NYT about how she and her boyfriend decided to stop using birth control and see what happened. She ended up pregnant with triplets and that was just far too much for her to handle so she selectively aborted two so that they could keep their nice urban lifestyle. If there ever was a time I actually wanted to Scanners someone's head, it was then.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 15, 2011 07:06 AM (VtjlW)

20 Whats going on with the Iowa polls? They're everywhere. --- Gingrich down to 18% on InTrade. I may have to rethink the intelligence of voters.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:06 AM (zLeKL)

21 I had to backup my computer this morning. Nasty virus. Wiped everything out. Thank god my semester was finished

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 15, 2011 07:07 AM (FKQng)

22 Nobody watches CNN. CNN only looks like a real news network when compared to MSNBC.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 07:07 AM (i6RpT)

23 I'm an antidisestablishmentarian

Obama is anti-competence.

And a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 07:08 AM (UOcNk)

24 This is the media spin you chose to take on today? Have you looked at the New York Times coverage of Iraq on their front page?

Posted by: Chris at December 15, 2011 07:08 AM (xzLHn)

25 Gingrich down to 18% on InTrade. I may have to rethink the intelligence of voters.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 11:06 AM (zLeKL)

i dont care about intrade, it's always changing. We're getting a not romney cause thats is what the base wants, we cant find who it is though.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 15, 2011 07:08 AM (FKQng)

26 21 alex selectively abort two......dear Lord.....pray for the one she "choose" that poor kid is going to have some serious issues.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 15, 2011 07:09 AM (Ho2rs)

27 It is interesting that the progressive cause has shifted from Eugenics to Euthanasia. Lock step behind Europes socialists.

The two are the same thing. Philosophically speaking, anyway. What else do you think they mean by "old and infirm?" Not everyone who is infirm is old. They might just be Ms. Sanger's "weeds."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 15, 2011 07:09 AM (8y9MW)

28 Defund all abortion providers. And hound the abortionists in every legal way possible. And continue to support pregnancy resource centers. Frankly, I am suprised at the progress the pro-life movement has made over the last decade or so in actually changing "hearts and minds" on this issue. One glimmer of hope I suppose for our civilization.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:10 AM (Xm1aB)

29 10

Of course they'll argue they're not pro-ABORTION, they're pro-CHOICE. Nobody in their right mind is actually FOR abortion.

Except everyone's favorite eugenicist Maggie, that is.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate's Wife at December 15, 2011 10:59 AM (B0893)

Hey, I'm pro-abortion!

Posted by: George Tiller, reporting from hell at December 15, 2011 07:10 AM (DrWcr)

30 I keep saying the gays should be the ones most opposed to any form of abortion and they better pray to whatever deity they claim that there is never, ever found a "gay gene."

Posted by: Jimmuy at December 15, 2011 07:11 AM (8SQ/2)

31 31 us too!!!!

Posted by: scoamf and his beast at December 15, 2011 07:11 AM (Ho2rs)

32 she and her boyfriend decided to stop using birth control and see what happened

We spend how much tax money on sex ed and people STILL form this sort of question in their skulls full of mush?

Posted by: Scott J at December 15, 2011 07:12 AM (KC2BE)

33 Of course they'll argue they're not pro-ABORTION, they're pro-CHOICE. Nobody in their right mind is actually FOR abortion.

I love asking them, "pro whose choice? The fathers? That's his kid, too. Why don't we wait until the kid can answer, and then we can ask them 'little Joey, do you want to be born, or do you want mom to butcher you in the womb?' I suspect your answer is 'the Woman's,' because you're not for choice, you're for abortion."

Yes. I have made at least two women cry.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 15, 2011 07:13 AM (8y9MW)

34 I am vehemently anti-abortion. The practice is loathsome and repugnant. Is there anyone here that disagrees with the second sentence? Of course there is the "yes but....." qualifier.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2011 07:13 AM (BoE3Z)

35 What's the difference between George Tiller and Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by: nickless at December 15, 2011 07:13 AM (MMC8r)

36 I really don't give a fuck if you want to murder your baby, I just don't want to pay for it and if a state or locality want to prohibit it they should be allowed to.

Posted by: McLovin at December 15, 2011 07:13 AM (j0IcY)

37 I can't wait for the day they overstep and we get a chance to give the Shawna Shepherds of the world what they deserve.

Posted by: trump at December 15, 2011 07:13 AM (hK2Ya)

38 I'm against the pro-abortion tag. I think it should be pro-snipping-full-term-delivered-baby's-spinal cord ala Kermit Gosnell (sp?)

Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 15, 2011 07:15 AM (136wp)

39 I'm anti-abortionist, as well as anti-abortion.

Posted by: toby928© at December 15, 2011 07:15 AM (GTbGH)

Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Alte Schule at December 15, 2011 07:16 AM (MLJu8)

41 What's the difference between George Tiller and Kermit Gosnell?

One's dead, the other not, unfortunately.

Posted by: toby928© at December 15, 2011 07:16 AM (GTbGH)

42 What's the difference between George Tiller and Kermit Gosnell? [self-censored because I failed my "would I ban myself for saying this?" test]

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2011 07:17 AM (p7SSh)

43 Bright-side of abortion is that if traditional heaven does exist alot of those morally preening leftards wont be around.... that should keep it a nice place.

Whats the point of growing old and dying if I still have to be around those smug assholes for eternity? Heaven or Hell I ll take the opposite of whichever the tambourine people are in.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:17 AM (RfvTE)

Not me!

If infant Tim Tebow was put on a shelf and left to die, he would lie there and do nothing for 55 minutes, then get up, junk-punch the abortionist and sprint out of the hospital.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 15, 2011 07:17 AM (UmXRO)

45 @43 I see what you did there. Nice.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:17 AM (Xm1aB)

46 She ended up pregnant with triplets and that was just far too much for her to handle so she selectively aborted two so that they could keep their nice urban lifestyle.

Since fetuses are apparently like puppies to this woman. Wouldn't it have been better if she gave birth to all 3, picked the cutest one and took the other 2 too the pound for adoption? She had to go through the pregnancy anyways. Or would that make her seem more heartless in the liberal mind?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 15, 2011 07:17 AM (tf9Ne)

47 buzzsaw she's more like the kind of person who would give birth to the three.....choose the pick of the litter, place the other two in a burlap sack with rocks and toss them in the river.........

Posted by: scoamf and his beast at December 15, 2011 07:19 AM (Ho2rs)

48 I'm not saying this is not an important issue or that it should not be discussed, but not so sure it's an issue we want to lead with when we go after independents.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 07:19 AM (i6RpT)

49 socks suck

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 15, 2011 07:19 AM (Ho2rs)

50 Dear God, what has happened to the blog?

First I put up that picture of McLame, and then Gabe went with Huckabee. It's like we went back in time or something.

*shakes fist at sky*

PIIIIIXXXXXYYYY!!!!

Posted by: Andy at December 15, 2011 07:20 AM (5Rurq)

51 I'm not saying this is not an important issue or that it should not be discussed, but not so sure it's an issue we want to lead with when we go after independents. It's an important issue. It's not our job to appeal to independents. Besides, why must we come to them?

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:21 AM (zLeKL)

52 OT Heard McCain on the radio this morning just ripping Obama a new one over his hypocrisy in taking credit for Iraq. Where was this McCain back in 2008?

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:22 AM (Xm1aB)

53 It's an important issue. It's not our job to appeal to independents. Besides, why must we come to them? Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 11:21 AM (zLeKL) Why? Well if you want to get rid of obama, I'd give it a little thought

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 07:22 AM (i6RpT)

54 Anti-abortionists and pro-abortionists. I like it. Lets bring back the more descriptive labels to the abortion debate.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 15, 2011 07:23 AM (5Rk+8)

Of course they'll argue they're not pro-ABORTION, they're pro-CHOICE. Nobody in their right mind is actually FOR abortion.

Dude, look at the piece about Tebow signaling the Armeggedon.

"His momÂ’s decision to risk her own life rather than abort her fetus flies against my own Â– and JudaismÂ’s Â– values, but neither am I pro-choice in all cases."

It's only pro-choice if you make the right choice - kill the baby. If you choose to keep the baby, it's not pro-choice. This guy is not a pro-choice absolutist, not pro-choice in all cases.

Ostensibly because he doesn't believe that every single baby should be aborted whether the mother likes it or not.

That would be 'pro-choice'. So he is sometimes pro-life, I guess, when the mother chooses not to be pro-choice.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 15, 2011 07:23 AM (UmXRO)

56 Well, seeing at 66% of Americans oppose abortion, I think we're pretty safe.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:24 AM (zLeKL)

57 Where was this McCain back in 2008?

Reassuring as we had nothing to fear from the SCOAMF...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 15, 2011 07:24 AM (136wp)

58
"Wouldn't it have been better if she gave birth to all 3, picked the cutest one and took the other 2 too the pound for adoption?"
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 15, 2011 11:17 AM (tf9Ne)

Therein lies the problem, I'm afraid. Heartless, amoral, narcissistic. Waiting for the "what about rape, incest so on so forth" smokescreen that you get.
The usual tactic libs use to change the subject, which is fundamentally sentence # 2. Using the small minority of tragic cases to justify the self-absorption of the many.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2011 07:24 AM (BoE3Z)

59 @53 Joffen, I agree. I am really tired of hearing endlessly about making sure we appeal to "independents." I understand there's no need to go out of the way to offend them, but conservatives are.......conservative. People will follow a good, solid leader. And if they don't, well then this country is too fucked to much worry about anymore.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:24 AM (Xm1aB)

60 I really don't give a fuck if you want to murder your baby, I just don't want to pay for it and if a state or locality want to prohibit it they should be allowed to.

THIS, and I also reserve the right to disrespect your decision to kill your baby.

Posted by: jwb7605 at December 15, 2011 07:24 AM (+KHIt)

61 @54 still waiting for the NYT that endorsed him to start up the tongue bath and ride into his rescue.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:24 AM (RfvTE)

Now tell me Orwell wasn't right, no hyperbole.

We are all fucked.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 15, 2011 07:26 AM (UmXRO)

63 Well, seeing at 66% of Americans oppose abortion, I think we're pretty safe. Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 11:24 AM (zLeKL) And? A) your not about to change any minds at this point, people opinions are mostly set in stone B) It still has a tendency to be very divisive and distracting

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 07:26 AM (i6RpT)

64
Good read on this, GM.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 15, 2011 07:26 AM (sqkOB)

65 I really don't give a fuck if you want to murder your baby, I just don't want to pay for it and if a state or locality want to prohibit it they should be allowed to.

THIS, and I also reserve the right to disrespect your decision to kill your baby.

Some people know that killing someone is illegal, immoral and despicable

Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 15, 2011 07:27 AM (136wp)

66 Heard McCain on the radio this morning just ripping Obama a new one over his hypocrisy in taking credit for Iraq.

Where was this McCain back in 2008?

At this time in 2008, he was telling us how he lost honorably and how we should rally behind the new president.

Posted by: jwb7605 at December 15, 2011 07:28 AM (+KHIt)

67 Frodo ..!!!!!

Posted by: Honey Badger at December 15, 2011 07:28 AM (GvYeG)

68 A) your not about to change any minds at this point, people opinions are mostly set in stone --- Okay, well like I said, a solid majority are on our side, so I'm not worried about changing anyone's minds. B) It still has a tendency to be very divisive and distracting --- A 66% majority that opposes abortion and that's a divisive issue?

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:28 AM (zLeKL)

69 The truest argument I ever got from a pro-abortionist was I'm pro-choice and I don't want to think about it.

Posted by: toby928© at December 15, 2011 07:28 AM (GTbGH)

70 @65 Not about to change any minds at this point? Really? I'd like to look at data showing support for abortion rights in the 1970s compared to today. I think you're obviously wrong. As far as being divisive and distracting, this could be said of any number of issues to arise in the upcoming campaign.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:29 AM (Xm1aB)

71 Some people know that killing someone is illegal, immoral and despicable

This, the moment any human is deprived of their Right to Life, you've opened the door to all kinds of horrors.

I do care if you murder your baby- because it's murder. That word has a definition, and it's not a nice one.

You can talk to me about abortion when mom will die without one.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 15, 2011 07:29 AM (8y9MW)

72 it's no surprise that pro-abortion activists are getting nastier as they lose ground

Is that a dog whistle telling us fiscal-cons to start getting nasty?

Posted by: Bob Saget at December 15, 2011 07:30 AM (SDkq3)

73 You can talk to me about abortion when mom will die without one. How often does this happen nowadays? Not often, and if the mom's life is at risk, is abortion always the only option? I doubt it.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:31 AM (zLeKL)

74 A 66% majority that opposes abortion and that's a divisive issue? Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 11:28 AM (zLeKL) As far as being divisive and distracting, this could be said of any number of issues to arise in the upcoming campaign. Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 11:29 AM (Xm1aB) My only objective is to get rid of obama., Anything that distracts from that is just that, a distraction.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 07:31 AM (i6RpT)

75 Also we could take it one step at time and first focus only on stopping partial birth abortions. That's probably the most pressing and a 10-20 year project its self. I find PBA mind bogglingly awful and even radical secular Europe and I think even Russia outlaws them.

Second would be to stop tax payer funding...

Third turn the decision back over to the states.

At that point I would be quite happy even though in most cases in most places there would be no functional difference in American abortions. But, at least it would be with the support of the people for good or bad.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:32 AM (RfvTE)

76 Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 11:31 AM (i6RpT) ---- So would you be happy with President Hillary then? You've gotten rid of Obama... No. We still need to put some thought into who we're replacing Obama with. It's not a distraction at all. Would you want Obama replaced with Nancy Pelosi?

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:33 AM (zLeKL)

77 @77 Obama voted for a bill in Illinois that would have prohibited medical personnel from assisting a baby which lived through a botched abortion. I would hope our nominee brings that up and gives it the attention it never received in 2008. That's a distraction the American people need to hear more about.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:33 AM (Xm1aB)

78 So would you be happy with President Hillary then? You've gotten rid of Obama... No. We still need to put some thought into who we're replacing Obama with. It's not a distraction at all. Would you want Obama replaced with Nancy Pelosi? Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 11:33 AM (zLeKL) Either your new here, have never read my posts, or having severe trouble comprehending anything I ever said to even insinuate shit like that.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 07:36 AM (i6RpT)

79 yes, the term "anti-abortionists" is clumsy but it's also beyond biased. Use of that term, as opposed to pro-life is a deliberate adoption of one group's opponents views and terminology. Of course, this is nothing new, and it doesn't move the dial, bitter old lefty hags now too old to get pregnant are going to vote for their boyfriend Obama no matter what.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow crazed rioter at December 15, 2011 07:36 AM (QxSug)

Obama vacation story, double post.

Well, he is taking two planes, so it makes sense to me.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 15, 2011 07:36 AM (XdlcF)

81 Well, at least the "anti-choice" meme is dead. I say we make it equal: give guys the opportunity to abort. Not in actuality, but they sign a paper aborting their parental obligations. No child support. See how many women support abortion then. Case in point, (Personal note): I've got a brother and a sister. Bro and his wife have birthed 4 children, and given those children up for adoption (he and wife are on meth, so adoption was the best choice). Sister has had at least 4 abortions in the last 5 years. Guess which sibling gets all the love from my democrat mother (and it's not me, the guy who is married and has 5 children, all still living and living with me) for being such an amazing parent to the one who escaped the womb? Liberal priorities scare the eff outta me.

Posted by: Ghost at December 15, 2011 07:37 AM (q8nT/)

We spend how much tax money on sex ed and people STILL form this sort of question in their skulls full of mush?

I phrased that badly. It was more "we'd like kids but aren't going to freak out about trying" than oh hey there's a surprise. IIRC, the two that she aborted were twins.

Therein lies the problem, I'm afraid. Heartless, amoral, narcissistic.

The um I'm not allowed to use the only appropriate word for her said in the article that she was horrified that she'd have to move to Staten Island and start shopping at Costco. It was seriously sick.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 15, 2011 07:38 AM (VtjlW)

83 @84 Man, what a story. Sorry about your brother and sister-in-law and their meth addiction, but God bless them for doing the right thing with their babies.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:39 AM (Xm1aB)

84 Either your new here, have never read my posts, or having severe trouble comprehending anything I ever said to even insinuate shit like that. No, I know you never said anything like that. I was making a point. We need to choose our candidate carefully and it's not just about getting rid of Obama.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:39 AM (zLeKL)

85 #65
I see your point and you are probably right. But to me it's murder. (Yeah I went there). I want to be known as anti-abortion. If the fucking independents are uncomfortable with the label, OK. I want a candidate to defeat Obama that is as like-minded as possible. I'll settle for what I can get. Someone who is all-in on abortion, though, would make me sick when I voted for them.
Faking an abortion stance for the independents just seems cowardly

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2011 07:40 AM (BoE3Z)

86 @87 Ultimately it really is just about getting rid of Obama. Think about it. There are very few, if any, other candidates you might ever say that about. Nearly anyone would be better than Obama regardless of their position on abortion.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:41 AM (Xm1aB)

87 @Ghost I am sorry for you.

Personally I have had a number of once close friends who through some chain ie.. gay, pop culture, welfare dependence, etc.. are now radical leftists who have all become angry drones in a state of constant metnal anxiety akin to pavlovs dog living in a bell shop.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:41 AM (RfvTE)

Headlines We'd Like To See:

"Obama, Dems Reach Out To Anal Sex Devotees"

Posted by: Jones at December 15, 2011 07:42 AM (8sCoq)

89 Yes, abortion is murder, taking a human life. However, publicly calling it murder has complications. For instance, if you are pro-death penalty (another "divisive" issue) then should mothers that abort their babies be put to death? Of course not. Words have meaning, obviously. I am loathe to compare mothers who abort their babies with Charles Manson.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:43 AM (zLeKL)

90 In the wake of the Gosnell butchery, the Republican-led PA state government has passed a bill (that Gov. Corbett is expected to sign today) that will tighten restrictions on abortion clinics and forces them into higher standards of cleanliness, record-keeping, etc...It treats these clinics like medical facilities, in other words. The Dems are screaming about it, of course, the ghouls. How can you be against shutting down people like Gosnell?

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 15, 2011 07:44 AM (YmPwQ)

91 I aborted my wife in Skyrim and then raise her body from the dead to follow me around.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 15, 2011 07:44 AM (eZ6l6)

92 Don't get me wrong I am quite well aware we have our angry drones.. but they are not accepted or tolerated by anyone in charge nor put in charge of much. They certainly don't have a totalitarian monopoly over the nations say say education, state department, and news and entertainment media.

IME, Our crazies are lucky to have a job changing oil or stuck at home hating themselves for living on welfare.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:44 AM (RfvTE)

93 There is hope. I have a sister-in-law who spent way too much time at university accumulating multiple degrees who turned out to be a rabid feminist. Then she got married. And had a baby who is now the cutest little 3-year-old you ever saw. And she is now pro-life. She still sucks on all the other issues, but has changed completely on the issue of abortion. I'm still working on her on the other stuff.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:45 AM (Xm1aB)

94 91

Headlines We'd Like To See:

"Obama, Dems Reach Out To Anal Sex Devotees"

My thread winner.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2011 07:45 AM (BoE3Z)

95 @Mr Pink

The second patch fixed that.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 07:45 AM (RfvTE)

"Obama, Dems Reach Out To Anal Sex Devotees"

Posted by: Jones at December 15, 2011 11:42 AM (8sCoq)

Finally, a reason to vote for Barry.

Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2011 07:46 AM (8moZm)

97 "Obama, Dems Reach Out To Anal Sex Devotees" --- LMFAO

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:46 AM (zLeKL)

98 @21 - I love the phrase "selectively abort". Sounds so clinical.

When I read things like this, I want to go choke the living crap out of someone. I've had a number of conversations with pro-abortion folks, and I'll usually bring up how we lost a child to cancer and can't imagine someone not wanting their child. It really makes them squirm.   On the one hand, they want to go off on me because I'm such a terrible person because I want to invade a women's body (actually, I do, but not in that setting - mostly when I see a Hendricks pic like yesterday's). After all, anyone who is anti-choice must be a real bastard (and being an older white dude doesn't help). On the other, they want to express sympathy for my loss.

It's like the Star Trek episode when Kirk is trying to make the android deal with emotions.
That's not very nice of me, I know.   But it's still fun.

On an unrelated note, the RightWing Daughter was pretty pleased with her performance in her 5th grade class yesterday. We're in Rhode Island, and our governor just recently decided to rename the Christmas tree the "Holiday Tree".   Her class had a debate about whether or not this should have been done. She used the question "If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a horse have?" Once people answered "five", she responded "Wrong - it's still four. If you call a tail a leg, it's still a tail, and if you call a Christmas Tree a Holiday tree, it's still a Christmas Tree. So let's not play silly word games".

I am so damn proud of her. That deserves ice cream at the least.

Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 07:46 AM (UOcNk)

99 @92 There are different degrees of homicide for a reason.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:46 AM (Xm1aB)

100

Except everyone's favorite eugenicist Maggie, that is.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate's Wife at December 15, 2011 10:59 AM (B0893)

Actually, even Maggie S. found abortion too much to stomach, I believe. Every form of birth control to reduce to those "weeds" up until it meant killing an actual baby. Unfortunately, her successors don't have even the scruples of a 1920s racist.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 15, 2011 07:47 AM (sEvRn)

101

Headlines We'd Like To See:

"Obama, Dems Reach Out To Anal Sex Devotees"

Posted by: Jones at December 15, 2011 11:42 AM (8sCoq)

"Time Travel Perfected, Agents Sent Back to Abort Margaret Sanger"

Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 15, 2011 07:47 AM (136wp)

102 I am so damn proud of her. That deserves ice cream at the least.

Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 11:46 AM (UOcNk)

Nice re-purposing of the Abe Lincoln joke...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 15, 2011 07:49 AM (136wp)

103 So I'm guessing that this CNN piece didn't mention the Catholic New Jersey nurses whose hospital ordered them to participate in abortions. Guess conscientious objector status doesn't apply to people who don't want to have to kill babies in the womb.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2011 07:50 AM (IKSBB)

104 There are different degrees of homicide for a reason. --- I am opposed to abortion in ALL cases, including rape, incest, etc. However, I will not advocate locking up mothers that have abortions. I will be happy if doctors stopped performing them, insurance didn't cover them and it was more unacceptable in society.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:50 AM (zLeKL)

105 I am opposed to abortion in ALL cases, including rape, incest, etc. Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 11:50 AM (zLeKL) i don't think the 66% you quoted are are following you down that road

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 15, 2011 07:51 AM (i6RpT)

106 the guy who is married and has 5 children, all still living and living with me

So you were punished with five children, huh?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 15, 2011 07:52 AM (Hx5uv)

107 "Just as we're seeing with the global warming lunatics, it's no surprise that pro-abortion activists are getting nastier as they lose ground." Not sure if it's possible to get any nastier than Margaret Sanger, the patron saint of the abortion movement's desire to kill off as many African American babies as possible. Actual promotion of genocide based on race. Lovely.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2011 07:53 AM (IKSBB)

108 On an unrelated note, the RightWing Daughter was pretty pleased with her performance in her 5th grade class yesterday. We're in Rhode Island, and our governor just recently decided to rename the Christmas tree the "Holiday Tree". Her class had a debate about whether or not this should have been done. She used the question "If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a horse have?" Once people answered "five", she responded "Wrong - it's still four. If you call a tail a leg, it's still a tail, and if you call a Christmas Tree a Holiday tree, it's still a Christmas Tree. So let's not play silly word games".

I am so damn proud of her. That deserves ice cream at the least.
Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 11:46 AM

Give your daughter a big hug from me. Well-done.

Posted by: mama winger at December 15, 2011 07:53 AM (P6QsQ)

109

Is that a dog whistle telling us fiscal-cons to start getting nasty?

Yes.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 15, 2011 07:53 AM (UmXRO)

110 I am so damn proud of her. That deserves ice cream at the least. Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 11:46 AM ---- Hell, that deserves a pony!

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:54 AM (zLeKL)

111 I caught a little bit of Perry's speech last night to the Huckabee gathering. He reminded me of what truly is a sickening scandal and disgrace that I hope the Republicans hammer on during the campaign. Obama has fundamentally transformed this country to the extent that Catholic charities....hospitals and adoption services...are or will soon be out of business because they will not accede to Obama's abortion and gay-rights demands. I am not Catholic, but that does not prevent me from appreciating the magnitude of that church's contributions to the betterment of our society on a massive scale.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:54 AM (Xm1aB)

112 i don't think the 66% you quoted are are following you down that road --- I don't think so either, and certainly not for calling abortion murder.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:55 AM (zLeKL)

113 What do you mean they fixed it shiggs?

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 15, 2011 07:57 AM (eZ6l6)

114 So, SCOAMF can now detain American citizens without cause and indefinitely. This should end well.

Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2011 07:57 AM (fWAjv)

115
incoming transmission from Moonbat One

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 15, 2011 07:57 AM (sqkOB)

116 #108
I don't want to lock up anyone, either. It's legal now, for starters. As a Christian, and generally a libertarian (God, what a combination), I don't want a theocracy. But abortion should be decided much more locally than it is. For example, if the Moloch and Baal worshippers in California want to kill their babies, we folks in Jesusland should not have the power to stop them.
And vice-versa. Around here, we call abortion murder. But I'll tone it down for the sake of the independents, if I'm ever forced to go to the coasts. For you.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2011 07:57 AM (BoE3Z)

117 If abortion were limited except in cases of rape and incest and life of the mother (legitimate), then what percentage of abortions would be eliminated? Like 95%?

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 07:58 AM (Xm1aB)

118
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Posted by: Soothsayer at December 15, 2011 07:58 AM (sqkOB)

119 84: Its the liberal worldview: they all think "there is only a static amount of xxxxx in the world and the question is how best to distribute it" They are completely impervious to the fact that they are totally wrong because human ingenuity when it is unfettered by the heavy hand of government keeps finding substitutes for xxxx or new ways to produce stuff. Think about wealth --wealth is best defined by what conveniences and niceties one can buy, not by "how many oz's of gold do I have?"

Posted by: Palerider at December 15, 2011 07:58 AM (ql12X)

120 Nearly anyone would be better than Obama regardless of their position on abortion. If that's the case, why get rid of him at all? Think about it. We're opposed to Obama for a reason. Sure, we won't ever agree on what those reasons are, but I'd argue that if we nominate someone whose positions are closer to Obama's that our, that's not a good thing.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 07:58 AM (zLeKL)

121 If abortion were limited except in cases of rape and incest and life of the mother (legitimate), then what percentage of abortions would be eliminated? Like 95%? ---- Something like that.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 08:00 AM (zLeKL)

122 @mamawinger

Where in RI? I grew up there, went to the Warwick PS until HS, when my parents put into a private school, which shall rename nameless, because my parents wanted me to go to college. My parents left the state last year. I will miss going there on occasion.

And the current governor is a complete and utter jackwagon.

Posted by: penfold at December 15, 2011 08:00 AM (1PeEC)

123

I say we make it equal: give guys the opportunity to abort. Not in actuality, but they sign a paper aborting their parental obligations. No child support. See how many women support abortion then.

Now there's a thought.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 15, 2011 08:00 AM (UmXRO)

124
--notice how "Republicans are pushing" this co-sponsored bill

--also notice that if ALL Democrats vote against it, it will not pass. (That means a lot of Republicans voted against it, too.)

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 15, 2011 08:01 AM (sqkOB)

125 The Skryim issue.

UPDATE 1.2 NOTES
...
-Fixed occasional issue where a guest would arrive to the playerÂ’s wedding dead
....

Pretty funny glitch. Thought that was wat you were referencing.. apologies if not.

Posted by: Shiggz - Newt (Warp 6) at December 15, 2011 08:01 AM (RfvTE)

126 @124 I agree wholeheartedly. Getting rid of Obama will be better for the country no matter who replaces him......that's how bad he really is and will be. It might not be a good thing, but it will be a better thing, even if marginally.

Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 08:02 AM (Xm1aB)

127 "Of course they'll argue they're not pro-ABORTION, they're pro-CHOICE. Nobody in their right mind is actually FOR abortion." And the clever little weasels in teevee land use this in their shows to promote pro-choice(pro-abortion) in their scripts. How many times have we seen the plotline where there is an unplanned preganancy. The characters spout the "choice" liberal orthodoxy, consider abortion, then almost always "choose" to not have the abortion. See, they slyly imply that the choice to get an abortion is actually very rare. Real people when given the choice, almost always reject abortion. "We pro-choice people aren't really promoting killing of babies in the womb". Except it is NOT rare, and it isn't going to become rare, because people are being trained to disrespect human life, and take the easy way out. They're being trained that their own convenience is more important than a human life.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2011 08:02 AM (IKSBB)

128 Whats going on with the Iowa polls? They're everywhere.

We may need a new flavor next month because i think Newt has fallen and he can't get up.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 15, 2011 08:02 AM (Hx5uv)

129 Around here, we call abortion murder. But I'll tone it down for the sake of the independents, if I'm ever forced to go to the coasts. For you. I agree that it is murder, strictly defined. Are we going to use that as a legal definition? What sort of punishment would you advocate for mothers that have abortions? --- Let's not cloud the issue. Abortions should be stopped. That is all.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 08:03 AM (zLeKL)

130
file this under: outta left field

Another parallel between Palestinians and the American Left.

The Left teaches their children to automatically hate all Republicans just like the Palestinians teach their children to hate all joos and Israelis.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 15, 2011 08:04 AM (sqkOB)

131 aaand here comes ace with his million posts haha

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 08:05 AM (zLeKL)

132 I agree that it is murder, strictly defined.

It's not murder strictly defined. Murder is unlawful homicide and abortion is lawful homicide therefore not murder. Nevertheless, I basically agree. It's a moral abomination. Future generations will look back on us with revulsion.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 15, 2011 08:06 AM (Hx5uv)

133

If abortion were limited except in cases of rape and incest and life of the mother (legitimate), then what percentage of abortions would be eliminated?

Like 95%?

I was going to say 99.9%, but I had to reconsider - you're right, genuine health concerns over the pregnancy are probably at least 4.9%.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 15, 2011 08:07 AM (UmXRO)

134

These idiots still don't understand that the reason they have been steadily losing business since Roe v. Wade was made the law of the land is because they have been aborting most of their future clientele.

It's a terrible long-term business model when you think about it.

And you'd think that people who are so concerned with saving dying species would realize that they are the instruments of their own destruction.

Between waiting an average of 7-10 years longer to start a family and abysmal birth rates, liberals are quite literally turning themselves into an endangered species.

It's science/math/logic, but not "liberal" science/math/logic, so I guess it doesn't really count.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at December 15, 2011 08:07 AM (0xqzf)

135

114 I am so damn proud of her. That deserves ice cream at the least.
Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 11:46 AM

"Hooters" and wings was a idea in some guys mind at one time.

Posted by: Racefan at December 15, 2011 08:08 AM (VrIGG)

136

I'm anti-abortion, but I'm NOT in favor of any law outlawing abortion as a medical proceedure either. What I WOULD like to see, quite simply, is a law outlawing federal FUNDING for any proceedure or facility associated with abortions.

I'm not overly religious but I DO respect anyone's religious preference including those who view abortion as murder. Forcing them to pay taxes to provide these services or facilities for these services is silly. Forcing them to pay taxes to support these proceedures in other countries (Africa) is equally ludicris.

Funny how "religious tolerance" gets thrown out the window if it fails to conform with the current political agenda.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at December 15, 2011 08:09 AM (2uovW)

137 It's not murder strictly defined. Murder is unlawful homicide and abortion is lawful homicide therefore not murder. Nevertheless, I basically agree. It's a moral abomination. Future generations will look back on us with revulsion. --- Well now we're just arguing semantics, but as long as we agree. Heh.

Posted by: Joffen at December 15, 2011 08:09 AM (zLeKL)

138 "I am not Catholic, but that does not prevent me from appreciating the magnitude of that church's contributions to the betterment of our society on a massive scale. Posted by: Dave" The parishes in my city provide for a food pantry, a meals program, collecting items for pregnant people, there is a diocesan Catholic Social Services. These are ongoing activities, not once a year, "let's volunteer at a meals program on Thanksgiving" devices. There are also a number of meals programs and food pantries provided for by local protestant churches. For some reason, at least some liberals aren't mindful of faith based philanthropy. I believe that has to do with their real agenda being to gain control over people's lives.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2011 08:12 AM (IKSBB)

139 96

There is hope.

I have a sister-in-law who spent way too much time at university accumulating multiple degrees who turned out to be a rabid feminist.

Then she got married. And had a baby who is now the cutest little 3-year-old you ever saw. And she is now pro-life. She still sucks on all the other issues, but has changed completely on the issue of abortion.

I'm still working on her on the other stuff. Dave, as long as she's a stay at home mom you stand no chance. She was brainwashed while getting those degrees and it's guaranteed to stick unless and until she becomes employed and starts paying taxes for herself, her property and her employees. Funny how that becomes the light bulb moment for so many "former liberals"....

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at December 15, 2011 08:12 AM (2uovW)

140 Shiggs I actually murder her then raise her. Necrophilia

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 15, 2011 08:12 AM (eZ6l6)

141

Between waiting an average of 7-10 years longer to start a family and abysmal birth rates, liberals are quite literally turning themselves into an endangered species.

Well, that's nice.

I almost hate to ruin it...

Gay people should be poofing away for lack of ability to breed any day now...

Posted by: Entropy, and if you don't agree you hate America and want Obama to win at December 15, 2011 08:12 AM (UmXRO)

142 146

Between waiting an average of 7-10 years longer to start a family and abysmal birth rates, liberals are quite literally turning themselves into an endangered species.

I'm sure National Geographic (spit) will be running a feature on this tragedy soon.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2011 08:16 AM (BoE3Z)

143 By the way, National Geographic really went to shit after they eliminated the gratuitous "primitive" boobies. The old times - good times, good times.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2011 08:17 AM (BoE3Z)

144 That's fine. Obama makes appeals to baby-murdering eugenicists all the time. And he's a pathetic SCOAMF. So I don't mind being called an anti-abortionist...better than one of their other favorites like "anti-choice" or some such. I'm all for clarity in language.

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 15, 2011 08:18 AM (k4bdL)

145 I guess this is what they teach at J school these days, first, we're anti-government because we don't want an all-powerful, over-intrusive federal government with powers that exceed the limited government model that we've all come to love. And, we aren't pro-life, we're anti-abortionist. Ooooh, so scary.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow crazed rioter at December 15, 2011 08:19 AM (QxSug)

146 _{^{54
OT

Heard McCain on the radio this morning just ripping Obama a new one over his hypocrisy in taking credit for Iraq.}^{Where was this McCain back in 2008?}}

_{^{Posted by: Dave at December 15, 2011 11:22 AM (Xm1aB)}}

Being kneecapped by Bush, Paulson and Bernake?

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2011 08:24 AM (uuOfy)

147 Killing children isn't health care. Repeat often.

Posted by: ccoffer at December 15, 2011 08:32 AM (4DRxe)

148 _{^{93
In the wake of the Gosnell butchery, the Republican-led PA state
government has passed a bill (that Gov. Corbett is expected to sign
today) that will tighten restrictions on abortion clinics and forces
them into higher standards of cleanliness, record-keeping, etc...It
treats these clinics like medical facilities, in other words. The Dems
are screaming about it, of course, the ghouls. How can you be against
shutting down people like Gosnell?}}

_{^{Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 15, 2011 11:44 AM (YmPwQ)}}

McDonnel and the GOP just did that this year in Virginia, and the abortion industry is up in arms. A barn had more health regulations tied to it than a Planned Parenthood clinic. The GOP even had the balls to make sure that the clinics were not "grandfathered" in. It is all based on the South Carolina regulations that the Supreme Court gave the ok to.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2011 08:35 AM (uuOfy)

149 Does that mean they are anti-lifest?

Posted by: Jprs at December 15, 2011 08:42 AM (YQ4mh)

150 they = CNN

Posted by: Jprs at December 15, 2011 08:43 AM (YQ4mh)

151 I am so damn proud of her. That deserves ice cream at the least. Posted by: RightWing Prof Cool...Pretty impressive for 5th grade!

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at December 15, 2011 08:50 AM (JNqU9)

152 My sister very much wanted to have her twins, but she was a struggling graduate student. Had she delayed her degree, her children might have endured years of living in a poorer neighborhood with fewer educational opportunities. Sometimes it is more compassionate to end an unwanted pregnancy than bring more children into an already difficult world. It was sad for me to drive her to the clinic, but we must trust women and their choices.

Posted by: Molly at December 15, 2011 08:55 AM (SjvZr)

153 I have a Canadian friend who loves posting about her kids and motherhood on Facebook.

What boggles my mind is that she can then turn around and link articles on, "Protect Choice! Women Reproductive Rights are in danger!" It boggles my mind how she can support both at the same time. I'm afraid to ask ...

I have another Canadian friend who proudly supported her mother's right to abort her if she had wanted to; abortion doesn't kill people because personhood is something defined by the state. (And how does the state decide these things ...? Our discussion was cut short, sadly)

Makes me wonder what I need to know about Canadian culture ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 15, 2011 08:56 AM (v3pYe)

154 Are there actual any "anti-abortionists" ?

An "abortionist" performs an abortion.
So, does an "anti-abortionist" put the fetus back ?

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 15, 2011 09:02 AM (e8kgV)

155 I am so damn proud of her. That deserves ice cream at the least.
Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 11:46 AM
----
Hell, that deserves a pony!

Since you mentioned pony, she's already learned the phrase "skittle-pooping unicorn" as applied to empty promises, and loves the JibJab videos..

She's really an amazing kid. Between growing up (since age 2) with an older brother with a terminal illness (he died of cancer when she was 8 and he was 10), the RightWingWife's constant tutelage in how to act like a civilized human being (hell, I certainly can't go there), and my generally cynical professor's view of the world, she's often the odd view out. She's smarter, more responsible, and probably more creative than almost any of her friends (and, she knows how to do a proper rear-naked choke that can put someone out in about 8 seconds). But of course, I may be a teensy bit biased.

As for location, we live about 2 miles from URI - right in the belly of the beast.

Posted by: RightWing Prof, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at December 15, 2011 09:16 AM (UOcNk)

156 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2011 09:21 AM (7WJOC)

157 Tim Tebow has a necklace of abortion Doctor ears.

Posted by: steevy at December 15, 2011 09:25 AM (7WJOC)

158 I love asking them, "pro whose choice? The fathers? That's his kid, too. Why don't we wait until the kid can answer, and then we can ask them 'little Joey, do you want to be born, or do you want mom to butcher you in the womb?' I suspect your answer is 'the Woman's,' because you're not for choice, you're for abortion."

Yes. I have made at least two women cry.

My favorite line is, "Yes, I'm absolutely pro-choice. Of course, by the time a woman knows she's pregnant, it seems she's already made her choice, and now must live with the consequences."

Posted by: Lone Marauder, pre-denounced for your convenience at December 15, 2011 10:00 AM (/bVuS)

159 This is a somewhat touchy subject for me. My mother was a 16-year-old unwed mother, that was kicked out of her house when she told her dad she was pregnant. It would have been much easier on her had she just aborted me, but she decided to go through with the pregnancy. When she could no longer take care of me, the state had to step in and thanks be to $DIETY that I found a wonderful adoptive home.

Her choice is indirectly responsible for two others (the lil' Marauders).

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