October 27, 2011
— Open Blogger Controlling 1/2 of 1/3 of gov't = Republican control.
UDATED! Now with 100% more MEME. (After the break.)
Doesn't this admission of impotence sort of validate the presumption that the only way for the Left to wield power with any effectiveness is if they are permitted absolute power, unfettered by the specter of being held responsible for failed programs in the next election?
“Democrats aren’t in charge. The House is obviously run by Republicans, and in the Senate, we have 53 Democrats but the system now is set up so that you need 60 votes to do anything,” Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said in a C-SPAN “Newsmakers” interview that aired Sunday.
Be nice if someone had a job whose responsibilities included asking follow-up questions. I don't know, that person could be called a 'journalist', and they could ask things like "So when you had control of the Executive & the Legislative, why didn't you go ahead and pass a jobs bill that worked or, hell, even something as fundamental and constitutionally mandated like a budget, instead of spending your political capital on an unpopular health care bill?"
But then, doing so would allow the average reader to grok the hypocrisy in the following statement:
Over 240 days and this Republican Congress has not put forth one jobs plan,” Belcher told CNN anchor Anderson Cooper last month. Democratic operatives defend Belcher’s choice of words, even though Democrats control the Senate.
Of course we see the standard media tactic of providing editorial color to Republican statements. Republicans are "crowing" the success of their dastardly authority.
Democrats' statements are given with no adjectives.
And of course, the final word reinforces the meme. (Although I think they miss the unintentional irony in the statement, which I've emphasized.)
“The facts are that it’s a Republican Congress,” he said.“There is no disputing the fact that congressional Republicans have repeatedly blocked the bipartisan, paid-for ideas offered up by the president in the American Jobs Act — even though it’s the only plan before Congress that independent analysts confirm would create jobs right away,” said Josh Earnest, a White House spokesman.
Thanks to Ben K, and via Newsbusters, Bill Press states Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell "controls" congress:
"Meme meme meme meme?"
Yes you, Beaker.
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Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2011 10:21 AM (1Jaio)
I recall in 2008 that most people interviewed after voting thought the Republicans controlled the house and senate as well as the Presidency.
The Democrats and media(i know, i know) are very good at this kind of thing.
Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2011 10:22 AM (wuv1c)
Republican murderers
Republican rapists
Republican child molesters
Republican IRS
Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 10:22 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Hedgehog at October 27, 2011 10:22 AM (jkgfU)
Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 10:23 AM (OhYCU)
When the zombie apocalypse comes, I hope all of of those that are surprised because they only watched the MFM, actually turn on the MFM.
Has that ever happened historically?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 27, 2011 10:23 AM (GKQDR)
Posted by: Hedgehog at October 27, 2011 10:24 AM (jkgfU)
Republican rapists
Republican child molesters
Republican IRS
Posted by: Cherry pi at October 27, 2011 02:22 PM (OhYCU)
Republican President Barack Obama
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 10:25 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: CoolCzech at October 27, 2011 10:25 AM (Iaxlk)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 27, 2011 10:26 AM (1ic2v)
"Over 240 days and this Republican Congress has not put forth one jobs plan,”
Are You Fuckin Kiddin ME???
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:27 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Hedgehog at October 27, 2011 02:22 PM (jkgfU)
FIFY.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 10:27 AM (4df7R)
I think it was lulu this morning who mentioned something about a bunch of "jobs bills" passed by the House collecting dust at the Senate.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:28 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 10:28 AM (8y9MW)
This is absolutely true. I think the number is closer to 50 jobs plans.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 10:29 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 10:29 AM (NH9Y5)
"Over 240 days and this Republican Congress has not put forth one jobs plan,”
Are You Fuckin Kiddin ME???
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:27 PM (sqkOB)
Straight up lying is politics as usual according to some 'round here
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (RD7QR)
Not even a budget.
Pass this bill now!
Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (VKRmb)
When was the last time the Republicans had 60 or more in the Senate? I believe you have to go all the way back to the 1890s for that.
Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: john b at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (XDtY2)
The House just passed one piece of Obama's "jobs" bill today (link to Washington Times).
...The House bill, which still needs Senate approval, would head off a new rule that would force federal, state and local governments to withhold 3 percent of payments to government contractors — something businesses said amounts to a destructive new tax...
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (4df7R)
Ummm.....Anderson?
SpeakerBoehner Speaker John Boehner VIDEO: Mr. President, to build on common ground #4jobs, help pass #forgotten15 #jobs bills stuck in Dem Senate
Posted by: Tami-Cardinals! at October 27, 2011 10:30 AM (X6akg)
Over 240 days and this Republican Congress has not put forth one jobs plan,” Belcher told CNN anchor Anderson Cooper
Technically he's correct. The House has put forth 15, not 1
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at October 27, 2011 10:31 AM (0GONp)
Looks like there was an upset on the ticket. Let me be the first to say Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 10:31 AM (FkKjr)
I know, stupid question.
Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 10:32 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 10:32 AM (rJVPU)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at October 27, 2011 10:33 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 27, 2011 10:33 AM (1ic2v)
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 27, 2011 10:33 AM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:32 PM (sqkOB)
Over fifty years old and Obama has yet to hit puberty.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 10:34 AM (4df7R)
Like many of you, I suspect there's some funny business going on here.
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 10:34 AM (NH9Y5)
It is convenient that former White House National Security Staffer Kevin OÂ’Reilly is in Iraq. The JEF has him there to catch a bullet, I am sure. Wouldn't want him to accidently admit something to implicate the JEF.
Posted by: sTevo at October 27, 2011 10:34 AM (KzkP7)
Republican senators deserve a lot of our anger, too.
Where are they and why aren't they out there with those 15 bills in their hands saying, "Pass these bills! Pass these bills!"?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:35 AM (sqkOB)
The mfm will do it's best to make it sound like happy days are here again.
In the mean time first time unemployment is still over the 400k (I'm in that bunch).
Posted by: YIKES! at October 27, 2011 10:35 AM (70TBD)
1/2 of 1/3 is bogus logic.
If you are only going to give Republicans credit for 1/2 the House, even though they have a majority, then you have to be consistent with how much credit you give the Democrats who have a majority in the Senate.
Shouldn't the Democrats also only be given a score of 1/2 for the Senate?
Truth is, Republicans have the House and the Democrats have the Senate and the Presidency.
Drop this 1/2 of 1/3 nonsense.
(now if in your "3" you are counting Judicial, Legislative and Executive, instead of House, Senate and Presidency, then i don't see how that works either. because 1/2 of the bench is conservative so we would get 1/2 for Judicial and 1/2 for House. which would still be 2/6th or 1/3rd of gov.)
Posted by: Thune at October 27, 2011 10:35 AM (fnJX1)
Doesn't matter- he won't get down below the magic 7% by next November. And, as you say, this is probably monkeying with the numbers.
Of course, our side can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but I'm cautiously optimistic that Barack Obama will be a One Term stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 10:36 AM (8y9MW)
Like many of you, I suspect there's some funny business going on here.
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 02:34 PM (NH9Y5)
All the centrifuges in Iran could not spin a believeable story on how they got it.
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 27, 2011 10:37 AM (FIDMq)
>>>Gallup has reported that government will probably post an unemployment rate of below 9.0% for October.
How is that possible? Unemployment claims went up!
I have a feeling the UE numbers will be highly finessed in the coming year
Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2011 10:37 AM (wuv1c)
What? And not get invited to the good parties?
Be calm, I'm sure they have our best interest at heart. And I hear that Harry Reid's parties all feature some excellent wines.
Posted by: Senate Republicans at October 27, 2011 10:38 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 10:38 AM (rJVPU)
Obama's new jobs bill is exactly the same thing!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 27, 2011 10:38 AM (f9c2L)
And while I have my favorites among the current crop of GOP candidates, I do believe that everyone running would put the good of the country first.
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 10:39 AM (NH9Y5)
Like many of you, I suspect there's some funny business going on here.
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 02:34 PM (NH9Y5)
With consistence 400k weekly new unemployment application keeping the unemployment rate above 9% now all of the sudden it's going to drop below 9%?
Posted by: YIKES! at October 27, 2011 10:40 AM (70TBD)
Not only is it not feasible for the UE rate to go down, it is already defying reason that it hasn't gone above 9.1% for the last six months.
The numbers tell us it can't happen. Everyone agrees that 375K is the threshold.
< 375K new unemployment claims = a reduction in the UE rate
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:40 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Thune at October 27, 2011 02:35 PM (fnJX1)
Thune, you... ARE aware that the American government has three branches, right? Executive (President), Legislative (House and Senate), and Judicial (SCOTUS)? And SCOTUS is (supposed) to be a non-partisan arbiter of Constitutional law. That's why we don't say "Justice Clarence Thomas (R-Somewhere)."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 10:40 AM (4df7R)
The math works like this:
3 Branches: Executive, Legislative, Judiciary.
Executive - Democrat
Judiciary - Neither (theoretically, but the Conservative Justices tend to play by the rules, so if it isn't 'Neither' then its 'Democrat')
Legislative - two Parts:
House - Republican
Senate - Democrat
Therefore 1/2 of 1/3. That's why no one is saying "1/6."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 10:40 AM (8y9MW)
With consistence 400k weekly new unemployment application keeping the unemployment rate above 9% now all of the sudden it's going to drop below 9%?
In an Obama Recovery anything is possible!
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 10:41 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 02:40 PM (8y9MW)
But you can't count the Judiciary if it's not being tallied. So it's 1/3.
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 10:42 AM (LD21B)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 10:42 AM (rJVPU)
Posted by: Vote Cthulhu/joncelli 2012 at October 27, 2011 10:44 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 27, 2011 10:44 AM (f9c2L)
Just saw the update where Bill Press calls Mitch McConnell the Senate Majority Leader...
How the hell is Harry Reid so invisible!?
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 02:42 PM (rJVPU)
I can see it now, How can Obarry get anything done with the Republicans controlling everything??!!!!111
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 27, 2011 10:44 AM (FIDMq)
Like many of you, I suspect there's some funny business going on here.
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 02:34 PM (NH9Y5)
Why don't they just say it's zero and the MFM will run with the story that Barry's five year plan has eliminated unemployment. I mean go big with the lie
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2011 10:44 AM (1Jaio)
No. It is being tallied.
You have 6 m&ms. 3 are blue. 1 is red. 2 are neither red nor blue. What proportion of m&ms is red?
The Judiciary is tallied in that it is 1/3 of government. It doesn't factor into either side's "control" because neither side controls it (in theory).
Even if it didn't, then it's Exec v Leg, so we control 1/2 of 1/2 of the government. Or 1/4, if we want to do it that way.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 10:45 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 10:45 AM (rJVPU)
The budget is required by the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (Pub.L. 93-344, 88 Stat. 297, 2 U.S.C. §§ 601–68
, not the Constitution.Posted by: Barney Frank at October 27, 2011 10:45 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Stupid Guy in Mom's Basement at October 27, 2011 10:45 AM (/E3ql)
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 10:46 AM (LD21B)
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 10:46 AM (NH9Y5)
Bill Press. Presstitute?
MFM. Or my favorite, the Fluffer Media. They get down on their knees in front of the Democrat Party every election year and do their duty.
Posted by: hughie at October 27, 2011 10:46 AM (+56Bh)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2011 10:46 AM (1Jaio)
But you can't count the Judiciary if it's not being tallied. So it's 1/3.
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 02:42 PM (LD21B)
It IS being tallied. It's being tallied as neutral, like a tie game in football, though it leans Democrat because the Dems don't give a flying fuck about abiding by rules and statutes. For example, the Dems are demanding Clarence Thomas not sit for any decisions on Obamacare, but they have no problem with Obama's former Solicitor General Kagan, who argued FOR Obamacare, being in on the decision. No conflict of interest there. None at all.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, in a REALLY BAD MOOD at October 27, 2011 10:47 AM (4df7R)
Well, I don't agree that the Judiciary should be tallied because it is nomially nonpartisan, so imo it does not count towards control.
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 10:47 AM (LD21B)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 10:47 AM (rJVPU)
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 02:47 PM (LD21B)
bleh.
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 10:48 AM (LD21B)
I doubt half of them could spell their own name let alone answer one of those questions
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2011 10:49 AM (1Jaio)
It doesn't "count towards control." It does, however, count as part of the government. Like I said, that's why we're not saying that Republicans control 1/6 of government. We're saying that of 1/3 of government (the Legislature), Republicans control 1/2 of that (the House). Therefore: 1/2 of 1/3.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 10:49 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 10:50 AM (i6RpT)
Down with Rational Numbers! Pi FTW! e Rules!
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 10:50 AM (8y9MW)
I went into an AoS thread to comment and a Fraction War broke out.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 02:48 PM (sqkOB)
I was told there would be no math.
Posted by: Your Buddy Barack at October 27, 2011 10:50 AM (4df7R)
I went into an AoS thread to comment and a Fraction War broke out.
Numerators vs Denominators in a PPV cage match!!!
Posted by: fixerupper at October 27, 2011 10:51 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 02:42 PM (rJVPU)
He's a small man in every way possible
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 27, 2011 02:50 PM (i6RpT)
Harry Reid's wife just called to say, "You have no idea how right you are."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at October 27, 2011 10:51 AM (4df7R)
Hiring for the holidays. It'll go back up in January.
Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 02:38 PM (01RS2)
Actually, it may go up in November. I thought that the gov't did their seasonally adjusting thing to account for this. Gallup may not.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 10:53 AM (T0NGe)
McConnell is less manly than Chas Bono and Boehner is either too pickled or too DC/PC.
And we all saw what the grand strategy of Rove did for W.
If Christie were really a conservative, I don't think that he would back down,
but he wasn't really what we'd hoped he was.
I used to think the GOP was just intimidated by the MFM, now it seems most have subscriptions and are addicted to free delivery.
Posted by: ontherocks at October 27, 2011 10:53 AM (HBqDo)
Posted by: KG at October 27, 2011 02:47 PM (LD21B)
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2011 10:54 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: RINO Vice President For Life AuthorLMendez, Formerly YRM, Who Supports The Ban Of Curious at October 27, 2011 10:54 AM (yAor6)
I wanted to listen to the radio instead of reading this blog but the Republicans, who control everything, made me look at the AoSHQ.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2011 10:55 AM (XFU/t)
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Like it or not, there are millions of our fellow citizens who read this crap in their local newspapers, and see the soundbites on TV, and THEY ABSOLUTELY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE IT, because they "know" we have a "free and unbiased" press, willing --heck EAGER-- to ferret out the Truth (a la Woodward-Bernstein). What they don't know is that the MFMSM now considers itself to be part of the Left's "unofficial campaign" team, whose goal is to promote the values, standards and candidates of the Liberal-Progressive Uber-Left "by any means possible"
And I don't know how conservatives can make this known without being seen as a bunch of whiners claiming "unfair" when the other team scores some points....
. The poor suckers don't quite understand that our so-called "free press" believes that among its Constitutionally-guaranteed rights are such things as "freedom to fabricate and slant.
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at October 27, 2011 10:55 AM (hq0VE)
Executive - Democrat
Judiciary - Neither (theoretically, but the Conservative Justices tend to play by the rules, so if it isn't 'Neither' then its 'Democrat')
Legislative - two Parts:
House - Republican
Senate - Democrat
Therefore 1/2 of 1/3. That's why no one is saying "1/6."
Posted by: AllenG
...........
You really shouldn't count the Judiciary for purposes of passing law.
So, I believe it's more like 1/3.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 27, 2011 10:56 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Justamom at October 27, 2011 10:56 AM (Sptt8)
I wanted to listen to the radio instead of reading this blog but the Republicans, who control everything, made me look at the AoSHQ.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2011 02:55 PM (XFU/t)
Their cruel, evil beings, aren't they? I wanted Cheerios for breakfast this morning, but the evil Republicans made me buy the generic store brand instead, so I had to eat those. It was just like eating regular Cheerios, but I knew they weren't.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at October 27, 2011 10:57 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 27, 2011 10:57 AM (6IReR)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 10:57 AM (rJVPU)
Posted by: mike at October 27, 2011 10:57 AM (rN8vT)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 10:58 AM (FkKjr)
I remember first hearing the "where are the jobs, rethuglicans?" meme in December, before the new congress was even sworn in.
All they know is how to play the blame game. Kind of like, "blame wall street for the bailout, not the democrats who pushed for it!"
Posted by: mugiwara at October 27, 2011 02:26 PM (1ic2v)
Unfortunately, that goes for about 60-70% of the people in this nation, period.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 10:58 AM (y0bJs)
Could be. I don't know if Gallup does either. Either way, I'm not holding my breath for a hiring boom until January of 2013.
Posted by: not neo just conservative at October 27, 2011 10:58 AM (01RS2)
THEY'RE cruel, evil beings.
Christmas on a cracker, I should have been an OWS proTEATer, because my spelling sucks.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at October 27, 2011 10:59 AM (4df7R)
So, I believe it's more like 1/3.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 27, 2011 02:56 PM (f9c2L)
hahaha, passing no, how about rewriting
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 27, 2011 11:00 AM (FIDMq)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 11:00 AM (rJVPU)
Well, it would help to start treating the MFM as the adversaries they are. As Rush says (and as Newt has been doing): reject the premise. Point out the bias in the media's questions, and explain that the question up for debate is the very premise they're assuming.
Do that enough, and people will start seeing that the media is biased. What's great about it is that you never have to accuse them of it. You never have to say, "that's biased," or "you're getting your talking points from the DNC." You just say something reasonable like, "I'm sorry, [Journo-puke], but your very question rests on the issue up for debate. We don't know that Obama's jobs bill will create jobs- that's an assertion by the Democrats. We're saying it will not create jobs, indeed, that it is harmful to them. So to ask me 'but if this bill will create 1 million jobs...' is like asking me, 'but if the sky is green...'"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 11:01 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2011 11:01 AM (XFU/t)
Eleanor Clift and Bill Press: 'U.S. Auto Industry Stronger Than It Ever Was'
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2011 11:01 AM (9hSKh)
By the way, Ryan Leaf really has a memoir that just came out.
Also: Ryan Leaf would've had a great pro football career if it weren't for those obstructionist Republicans.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2011 11:02 AM (XFU/t)
What's this?
Speaking of Democrats making up shit --
Sheila Jackson Lee, career idiot, is upset at Rick Perry because he wants to put the Confederate flag on some license plates.
As if it was his idea.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 11:02 AM (sqkOB)
The only talk radio we get here in flyover land is NPR, and I listened yesterday as the dulcet-voiced lady discussed something, anything, with some D pol. She asked him a pretty good question, and then he went on to "answer," but simply launched into his talking points, all straight from DNC central, about how the Rethuglicans control everything and want to slash and burn.
She let him go on for about two long minutes, and then thanked him for his effort. No followup, of course. No butting in to insist that he actually address any part, any teensie part, of the question. Nothing but giving him his airtime to advance the meme.
And advance it she will, she of the NPR golden tones, by sandwiching his little speech with what the mindless dummies think of a calm and reasonable discussion.
This is how they roll, and no one, no one, is calling out any of them.
Why the fuck can't all Republicans, all of them, everywhere, learn from this and start speaking from the same playbook, start refusing to answer the questions, and use the airtime to get out the message. Why can't they?
Punching bags, all of them. And the MFM just smirks behind their backs, and gets on with their program.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at October 27, 2011 11:02 AM (4sQwu)
OT.... but I had my contractors continuing ed this week and we covered the new 2012 IRC and IBC rules on energy efficiency.
OMFG. New rules for exterior walls are R20 and ceilings in now R40...... plus tons and tons and tons of other bullshit testing.
You cannot get R20 on a 2x4 wall and I have no idea how to do R40 on anything but a flat roof.
You might be able to accomodate the new regs on new construction using 2x6 exterior walls and raising the space in the attic on slope roofs....
... but how the hell is a remodeler supposed to comply with this stuff. Nobody will be to afford to undertake a remodel.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 27, 2011 11:03 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 11:03 AM (rJVPU)
(now if in your "3" you are counting Judicial, Legislative and Executive, instead of House, Senate and Presidency, then i don't see how that works either. because 1/2 of the bench is conservative so we would get 1/2 for Judicial and 1/2 for House. which would still be 2/6th or 1/3rd of gov.)
So we are at the mercy of how Anthony Kennedy's bowels are acting any particular day?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at October 27, 2011 11:03 AM (ujg0T)
Which is really funny, because he opposes it. I believe his response was something like, "Fair or not, it re-opens old wounds, and there's no reason to do that."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 11:03 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Mike at October 27, 2011 02:46 PM (NH9Y5)
I think you'd be amazed at what the last two "educated" generations of Americans don't know about government, let alone congress.
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 11:04 AM (y0bJs)
Rick Perry invented the Confederate flag.
It was later that Rick Perry came up with the idea of slavery and decided to link the two.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2011 11:04 AM (XFU/t)
Are they trying to push that foaming insulation stuff?
So we are at the mercy of how Anthony Kennedy's bowels are acting any particular day?
Well, yes. But that's not new.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 11:05 AM (8y9MW)
The circle is complete.
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 03:03 PM (rJVPU)
The highway bill expired in 2009. Obama and the democrats did nothing to pass a new one in 2009 or 2010.
Posted by: robtr at October 27, 2011 11:06 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 11:06 AM (rJVPU)
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 27, 2011 11:07 AM (6IReR)
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at October 27, 2011 11:08 AM (hq0VE)
The proposed license plate include an image of Old Dixie, a tiny noose, and a photo of a grinning Rick Perry.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 27, 2011 11:08 AM (sqkOB)
The proposed license plate include an image of Old Dixie, a tiny noose, and a photo of a grinning Rick Perry.
In blackface?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2011 11:09 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at October 27, 2011 11:10 AM (8y9MW)
Rick Perry invented the Confederate flag because he's a Republican.
It was later that Rick Perry came up with the idea of slavery and decided to link the two because he's a Republican.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2011 03:04 PM (XFU/t)
FIFY
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at October 27, 2011 11:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: t-bird at October 27, 2011 11:11 AM (FcR7P)
Why does Rick Perry want to open old wounds?
Because Rick Perry made the original wounds, but he screwed up.
Rick Perry was the original slash-and-burn Republican. With a machete in one hand and a blow torch in the other, Rick Perry went about looking for people (mostly children, but a few old people, too) to wound. He would slash with one hand and burn with the other. It wasn't until it was too late that he realized that the torch was actually cauterizing the lacerations.
This is why he wants to bring back the Confederate flag -- and with it, of course, slavery. But it won't be the slavery that the great Democrat Abraham Lincoln abolished in Gettysburg. This time, the slaves will be sex slaves. All of us! And we will serve giant ants -- sexually! I don't knkow how that will work exactly, but I don't want to find out.
Posted by: FireHorse at October 27, 2011 11:11 AM (XFU/t)
Posted by: tasker at October 27, 2011 11:12 AM (rJVPU)
Two inches of closed cell foam will provide R12 – R14 of insulation. Three inches will get you over R20, more than sufficient for exterior walls even the coldest climates in the United States.
It certainly looks that way doesn't it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 27, 2011 11:13 AM (tf9Ne)
Are they trying to push that foaming insulation stuff?
Even that in a 2x4 wall only gets you to about R18.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 27, 2011 11:13 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Bob Saget at October 27, 2011 11:13 AM (SDkq3)
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 11:14 AM (y0bJs)
Posted by: Soona - stocking up on ammo at October 27, 2011 03:14 PM (y0bJs)
Take us to Ludicrous Speed!
Posted by: Dark Helmet at October 27, 2011 11:14 AM (v+QvA)
I can see it now, How can Obarry get anything done with the Republicans controlling everything??!!!!111
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 27, 2011 02:44 PM (FIDMq)
That's just what my liberal Dad said when Obama was first elected: "He'll never be able to accomplish anything anyway; the Republicans and corporations are gonna fight him tooth and nail to keep him from doing anything to help this country." /sigh... Dear old Dad.
Posted by: Pyrocles at October 27, 2011 11:17 AM (cv5Iw)
I thought all was already lost regarding remodeling, because EPA has decided that any opening in a wall greater than (?some typical window size?) in a pre-1978 home exposes lead paint and/ or asbestos, so you have to do the "full-protective-coverage and filtered ventilation of a hazmat site" when replacing windows, enlarging rooms, etc. Making, of course, an expensive renovation into an IMPOSSIBLY-expensive renovation.
Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at October 27, 2011 11:23 AM (hq0VE)
Since it says in the quote I linked that a specific type meets the R20 in three inches that probably means they are also pushing a specific manufacturer too.
It may not be true but if the paperwork says it meets it that is all the gov will care about. Paper is more important that proof to them.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 27, 2011 11:25 AM (tf9Ne)
Obama has a leadership crisis because he has a problem handling responsibility. So do members of Congress.
Posted by: Becky at October 27, 2011 12:03 PM (Wk8/r)
Posted by: Galos Gann at October 27, 2011 12:37 PM (T3KlW)
Posted by: Advancing the Meme at October 27, 2011 01:19 PM (p/bp2)
Posted by: steevy at October 27, 2011 01:28 PM (fyOgS)
Ok, so when it was voted on the Senate, how did that go down?
Bi-partisan? Democrats only voted for it.
Partisan evil nasty one-sided politics? Republicans, Democrats, and Independents voted against it...
Damn, can I get a White House approved NEWSPEAK dictionary that has "bipartisan" defined as "Democrats only"? Clearly my current dictionary is defective or obsolete or something.
Posted by: gekkobear at October 27, 2011 02:15 PM (jWCyT)
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Posted by: Zero Day epub at October 27, 2011 04:49 PM (LLd5x)
Posted by: Great Expectations AudioBook at October 27, 2011 05:03 PM (PSIAV)
Obama and his slithering zealots keep saying this, but I have yet to hear a single name of one of these "independent analysts/economists" that is "confirming" such obvious skittle. Other than the evil Ewok, Paul Krugman, is there anyone touting this stuff with even the slightest credentials?
Posted by: Vercingetorix at October 27, 2011 05:28 PM (hfWKa)
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Duh.
Posted by: Bev Perdue at October 27, 2011 10:19 AM (usXZy)