August 13, 2011
— DrewM Above the post update:
Bachmann received 4823 votes (28.55%)
Ron Paul got robbed! He finished 2nd with 4,671 (27.65%)
Tim Pawlenty 3rd with 2,293 (he's done)
Rick Santorum 4th
Herman Cain 5th
Rick Perry got 718 write-ins, more than Romney got. Hmmmm.
Apparently not receiving a lot of write-in votes: Sarah Palin.
Clearly the ticket will be Bachmann/Paul.
Original Post:
First let me say what a scam this is. It's simply a fundraising gig for the Iowa GOP. Candidates have to pay to get space and voters have to buy tickets to vote.
Also...Get over yourself Iowa. Someone has to go first and I guess you can make a case for Iowa. What drives me nuts is people who act as if Iowa going first was ordained in the Book of Genesis or something. Some Iowans seem to think living in Iowa makes them more serious about this process and that they have some preternatural ability to screen candidates.
Results should start coming in around 6 eastern. Now FNC is saying 6:45 or so. Maybe when I saw 6 is was central time.
The conventional wisdom is Pawlenty needs to come in 3rd or better with the assumption being Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann will be 1-2. Honestly, with Perry getting in today, I don't see how coming in anywhere behind Bachmann helps T-Paw. He's still in the back of the pack nationally, so, "I'm Number 3!" in Iowa (when Mitt isn't really competing and Perry just jumped in) changes that. There's just not a lot of rationale to his campaign at that point. He's also going to have trouble fundraising without some sort of jump here. This might be the beginning of the end for him.
Also baring a miracle, Rick Santorum probably fades away after this.
Herman Cain gave a great speech to a mostly empty hall after many people already voted. At some point soon he's got to figure this isn't happening and has better things to do with his time.
No matter how he finishes, Newt probably stays in since he's digging the attention.
Huntsman really is focusing on New Hampshire for what that's worth so today doesn't mean much to him.
The other interesting thing to watch will be the write-in vote. It's the first time they've had them so expect Perry and Palin to get some play.
Of course, all of this might change depending on the outcome. We'll see.
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Posted by: JeepGirl at August 13, 2011 01:51 PM (lG836)
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2011 01:53 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at August 13, 2011 01:54 PM (2xfbm)
Posted by: huerfano at August 13, 2011 01:55 PM (kD+se)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 13, 2011 01:57 PM (uVlA4)
Posted by: SlaveDog at August 13, 2011 01:58 PM (PidTa)
Of course they said people can get the tickets from her then vote for someone else.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 02:00 PM (M9Ie6)
They said 1 or 2 a little while ago and that he has spent over a million on this straw poll stuff. They are saying this is do or die for him.
I think he should save his money and sign up with Perry as VP.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 02:01 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2011 02:02 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 02:05 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT at August 13, 2011 05:58 PM (Zgfnd)
But we provide support.
Posted by: Tempur-Pedic at August 13, 2011 02:05 PM (F2lG1)
But we aren't the ones putting all the focus and attention on it. You douche bags are. As far as I am concerned you can have it. Save me the 40+ robo phone calls every Iowa Republican probably got this week petitioning them to come out, almost 2 years before an election, in support of candidates most people haven't heard of much less care about.
You pundit types make a big deal out of it, so the candidates have to, since the next election is all you ever want to talk about.
Iowa is a beautiful place, but national politics NEVER ENDS HERE. As soon as one election ends, they start right in with TV ads, radio, and personal appearances angling for the next. It sucks.
Posted by: CausticConservative at August 13, 2011 02:07 PM (gT3jF)
His people will do that a lot.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 02:08 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 02:08 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: New Hampshire at August 13, 2011 02:08 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Joke Biden at August 13, 2011 02:10 PM (hp2jB)
Four groups of states, four primary days. Rotate the states groups' positions (first, second, third) every four years.
Enough of this Iowa and New Hampshire bullshit.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 13, 2011 02:10 PM (K2wpv)
Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2011 02:10 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 13, 2011 06:08 PM (G/MYk)
I think the Paulbots will bomb the poll but Bachmann will actually win the State in Jan. I think T-Paw is going to do bad and since he has no support in NH or SC it is the end of the line for him.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 02:11 PM (M9Ie6)
What a load of crap, frankly. The Republicans could've achieved much more, but chose not to.
Posted by: KG at August 13, 2011 02:12 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 02:13 PM (KcPPc)
Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2011 02:13 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2011 02:13 PM (Fw2Gg)
I've been saving for four years for this. And borrowed a little from my mom.
Posted by: Ron Paul! at August 13, 2011 02:13 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Bob Dole! at August 13, 2011 02:14 PM (s7mIC)
I'm a little sick of the entitled nature of the iowa republicans myself.
Why don't we move the first primary to a state that, you know, actually votes republican in the general election?
Posted by: Ben at August 13, 2011 02:14 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 13, 2011 02:14 PM (K2wpv)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:14 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 02:14 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:15 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 13, 2011 02:16 PM (K2wpv)
Every Tuesday for 17 weeks, three states hold primaries. The states go in order from least electoral votes to most. Obscure candidates have time to build name recognition while buying time in inexpensive media markets. By the time the biggest, most important states roll around, only candidates with a realistic shot at winning are still around.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 13, 2011 02:16 PM (Cu1aF)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 02:17 PM (KcPPc)
Posted by: MapleSyrup at August 13, 2011 02:17 PM (inuXh)
Here's a crazy idea: Maybe the Republicans should embrace some of Ron Paul's policy positions since they resonate well with young people.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 02:18 PM (/OSN/)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:18 PM (AZGON)
McCotter gave a break out speech at the Coliseum.
Coming in late with no recognition, if he comes out ahead of ANYONE he wins big.
Posted by: MapleSyrup at August 13, 2011 02:18 PM (inuXh)
Griffin/griffon/gryphon is half eagle, half lion
Hippogrif is half eagle, half horse
Don't any of the 'rons here have any D&D knowledge?
Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 13, 2011 02:18 PM (1zwZo)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:19 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 13, 2011 02:19 PM (uoAzW)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:19 PM (AZGON)
You look at my wife again that way and I'll strangle you myself... with my mind.
Posted by: Rick Perry! at August 13, 2011 02:20 PM (s7mIC)
Don't any of the 'rons here have any D&D knowledge?
Sadly, yes. Half the people here are geeks or lawyers. Or both.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 02:21 PM (/OSN/)
This is correct. And despite what Red Eye says, they kick ass.
Posted by: AD at August 13, 2011 02:21 PM (tZyw2)
Joe wouldn't stand a chance in the debates.
Doesn't matter. Joe wet himself against Palin, and the media still said he won.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 13, 2011 02:21 PM (K2wpv)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:21 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 13, 2011 02:22 PM (uoAzW)
Don't worry about Cain. He's already got a book deal as I understand it and is pimping his supporters to sign himself a sweet media/TV gig.
I kinda like Cain, I think he should take the name recognition he gained in this race and run for House, Senate or Gov in Georgia.
McCotter gave a break out speech at the Coliseum
He's an exceptional speaker and extremely intellegent. I wish more people knew who he wag.
Posted by: Ben at August 13, 2011 02:22 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:23 PM (AZGON)
And despite what Red Eye says, they kick ass.
What's this? Red Eye already beat us to the 'griffin' thing?
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 02:23 PM (/OSN/)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 02:24 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 13, 2011 02:24 PM (uoAzW)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 06:13 PM (KcPPc)
I'm calling Palin. If this was in Ohio, it would be Perry.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 02:24 PM (i1dgm)
Which one: the let-Iran-have-nukes position, or the abolish-the-Fed position?
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 02:24 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:25 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 13, 2011 02:25 PM (K2wpv)
I'm a little sick of the entitled nature of the iowa republicans myself.
Why don't we move the first primary to a state that, you know, actually votes republican in the general election?
Hey, we voted for a Republican (once in the last 6 elections, and then only barely)!
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 02:27 PM (s7mIC)
I'm calling Palin. If this was in Ohio, it would be Perry.
To bad PA doesn't even really get to vote in the primaries, by the time we vote it'll be between Ron Paul and the Republican Nominee.
Perry would do very well in the Pennsylvania "T" but I'm not sure how well he'll do in Allegheny County(pittsburgh) or Philadelphia county. They tend to be Arlen Specter/Tom Ridge Republicans, which is to say moderates at best.
Posted by: Ben at August 13, 2011 02:27 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 02:27 PM (KcPPc)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:27 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2011 02:28 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat is "concerned" at August 13, 2011 02:28 PM (uoAzW)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:29 PM (AZGON)
did you know that not only is Puttyhead Murray on the Super Duper Committee, she's the chairman for the Senate six?
I believe Jeb Hensarling is her House counterpart.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 02:29 PM (/OSN/)
Which one: the let-Iran-have-nukes position, or the abolish-the-Fed position?
Actually, I find many of his domestic policies to be very good. The only problem talks about them as though they are easy fixes, when they'd be damn near impossible to get through the house and senate.
There are such things as simple answers, but there are no easy answers.
Note, I think he's insane on foreign policy, but I wouldn't mind being back on the gold standard(or pegged to something of value), eliminating the department of education, and or auditing or abolishing the fed.
Posted by: Ben at August 13, 2011 02:29 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:30 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2011 02:30 PM (FcR7P)
Huntsman is such a cipher who knows whose votes he would siphon. Still, he hasn't the determination to go third party. This is merely an ego salve.
He could be like Anderson in 1980, a liberal Republican who ends up taking more democrat votes than republicans.
Posted by: Ben at August 13, 2011 02:30 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 13, 2011 02:31 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat is at August 13, 2011 02:31 PM (uoAzW)
If he goes to Philly, all he has to do is wear a Phillies cap (it's red, after all, and it even has his initial on it) and he's got it made. The Buccos and their fans are probably hopeless, though.
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 13, 2011 02:31 PM (WMEii)
According to Grassley who was just on Fox Ron Paul's economic views are shared by almost all the Republicans.
He did say that RP would have a lot of support if he modified his foreign policy.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 02:31 PM (M9Ie6)
Teach me something. Is there any reason to keep the Fed around aside from the pain involved in transferring the printing presses back to Treasury where they belong?
Posted by: Methos at August 13, 2011 02:32 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 02:32 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 13, 2011 02:32 PM (g5MrG)
God, you people are buncha whiney fags. Get a life and turn off the television and Internet and go outside.
Although you might want to tune in when Romney sees how many deep fried twinkies fit in his ass.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 13, 2011 02:32 PM (AF1jB)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:33 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2011 02:33 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:34 PM (AZGON)
As I heard Michael Barone say, "Thumbing through my copy of the Constitution, I can't find anywhere where it says that Iowa must vote first.... If [anyone] can find that requirement, please let me know."
Posted by: Monkey Glands at August 13, 2011 02:34 PM (Way+y)
So, to return to the thread, kinda. Who won Iowa in '08?
Who was teh Pubbie candidate for president?
Iowa means what, again?
FTR, I think Perry was right in ignoring Iowa. There are much bigger and more important fish to fry on his trek to the WH. Like Florida.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2011 02:35 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2011 02:35 PM (Fw2Gg)
According to Grassley who was just on Fox Ron Paul's economic views are shared by almost all the Republicans.
Then why are they keeping it a secret?
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 02:35 PM (/OSN/)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:35 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 06:35 PM (/OSN/)
They are not keeping their economic policy secret.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 02:36 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 13, 2011 02:36 PM (AF1jB)
I would love to hear the better GOP candidates speak frankly about a) Obama's war against Libya and b) the Fed's tinkering with the economy.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 02:37 PM (/OSN/)
Who would willingly attach themselves to that sinking ship?
Posted by: Lauren at August 13, 2011 02:37 PM (cVIY5)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 02:37 PM (KcPPc)
God, you people are buncha whiney fags. Get a life and turn off the television and Internet and go outside.
I've been out since 7. I just got in an hour ago. Cut me some slack. I need to bitch and whine for a minimum 2 hours a day. That's why I come here
Posted by: Ben at August 13, 2011 02:38 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:38 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2011 02:38 PM (FcR7P)
well, the justification that makes the most sense to me is to prevent hyperinflation.
making the political decision to turn on the printing presses is essentially a tax on all Americans that isn't subject to any vote in Congress. and it's a lot easier for a political appointee like Geithner (or Paulson for that matter) to do it than someone like teh Bernank, because Bernank's authority comes from the Federal Reserve Act itself and is much less susceptible to the ordinary political pressures to just follow the president's agenda.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 02:39 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:39 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2011 02:39 PM (Fw2Gg)
The poll is a joke and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Ronulians buying it. The Democrats have to run their false flag campaigns to divert attention from the real candidates.
Bachman, Romney will remain. Newt will survive. But Cain, Pawlenty, Santorium will proably going over their books.
Huntsman is about as popular as a case of dengue fever.
But the Iowa straw poll did reveal Wallace is on a tight rope and is reputation is on the linbe. York comes across as someone hoping to be noticed by the Washington Post as its pet "conservative."
Perry's announcement makes no difference. As soon as voters realize he is an amnesty candidate qand is weak on abortion, stem cell research and is just another big spender he's toast. All the money will not buy them the Constitution when they have been silent while the GOP women have been in the front ranks fighting Obama.
So I doubt the results here have any import but the future isn't bright for the plastic men.
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 13, 2011 02:39 PM (g5MrG)
Okay, morons. Anyone think Dick will replace Biden with another VP?
no, it would reek of desperation.
When was the last time a President switched VP's for political reasons and not because they were about to be indicted, committed a crime, or died?
Posted by: Ben at August 13, 2011 02:39 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:40 PM (AZGON)
actually I've noticed a few lefties making favorable remarks about Huntsman, particularly from the disillusioned Obamabots
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 02:40 PM (s7mIC)
It must be nice to live in those other states where people get a chance to choose who the Republican nominee will be.
Posted by: That's Mr Hobbit to you at August 13, 2011 02:40 PM (sbaXF)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:41 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: MarkD at August 13, 2011 02:41 PM (iYBP2)
Posted by: Monkey Glands at August 13, 2011 06:34 PM (Way+y)
We've had this discussion before. Iowa gets to have this because it's state law.
I repeat, it's state law.
Ohio should pass a law that ends Iowa straw polls. It carries as much weight as Iowa's bullshit.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 02:42 PM (i1dgm)
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2011 02:42 PM (Fw2Gg)
He will fail on both counts. (Romney has done enough damage to himself and Huntsman brings nothing to bear as VP.)
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 02:42 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:42 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:43 PM (AZGON)
Mark Warner will replace Biden. Or Petraeus will.
If the Democrats were smart, they'd swap Biden for a hispanic. Because in 2016, they'll be a huge voting bloc.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 13, 2011 02:43 PM (/OSN/)
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT at August 13, 2011 02:43 PM (Zgfnd)
actually I've noticed a few lefties making favorable remarks about Huntsman, particularly from the disillusioned Obamabots
And that alone is enough to dismiss him outright. They want a weak candidate for The Vapid One© in '012.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2011 02:44 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:44 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: J at August 13, 2011 02:44 PM (LlC1G)
I'd take Charlie Browns bag of halloween rocks.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 13, 2011 02:44 PM (4nfy2)
Poor Tim Pawlenty. The best actual candidate in theory, not working out so well in practice.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 02:44 PM (hIWe1)
Michele is going to celebrate by roasting some pagans over an open fire and eating their livers. Then she's going to pay a visit to the asshat who asked her the cheap shot question at the debate and string him up by his intestines.
Michele is a bad ass, you gotta admit it. I keep expecting to see Barry show up for a speech and then all of a sudden he starts trembling and shaking and then we see Michele Bachmann burst out of his body and take command of the podium.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 13, 2011 02:45 PM (AF1jB)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:45 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat is at August 13, 2011 02:45 PM (uoAzW)
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 02:45 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: J at August 13, 2011 02:45 PM (LlC1G)
I thought they were on Obama's side.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 13, 2011 02:45 PM (PcoXF)
Posted by: Iowa GOP at August 13, 2011 02:45 PM (iT/Iy)
Iowa is bad for America.
Posted by: HitAndRun at August 13, 2011 02:46 PM (mdhVr)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:46 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 02:46 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: J at August 13, 2011 06:44 PM (LlC1G)
That's what I'm waiting for.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 02:46 PM (i1dgm)
Posted by: J at August 13, 2011 02:46 PM (LlC1G)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at August 13, 2011 02:46 PM (XIpSR)
Posted by: freemo at August 13, 2011 02:46 PM (Eokk4)
Check out FDR's VPs.
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 13, 2011 02:47 PM (WMEii)
The fact that she still beat him tells a lot. She will win the caucus in Jan.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 02:47 PM (M9Ie6)
Really? I don't think so.
She's too much of an ideologue for my taste - and I don't think she has the right background at present for the presidency - but I've been favorably impressed by her campaign thus far. She's tried to stay positive and has performed well on the trail after some initial miscues.
Not my candidate, but I actually have her higher than Palin on my list and I don't expect that to change.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 02:47 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:48 PM (AZGON)
Seriously? Oh, man...that's gotta hurt.
Posted by: Slublog at August 13, 2011 02:48 PM (/W5xe)
You're a MICHELE BACHMANN voter? Seriously? You'd admit to that in public?
Me, I'm getting on the Rick Perry bus. I liked Pawlenty, but it ain't happening. But how could anyone prefer Bachmann to Perry?
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 02:48 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at August 13, 2011 06:46 PM (XIpSR)
Romney won and didn't get the nom or even win the caucus
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:48 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:48 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Peaches is perplexed at August 13, 2011 02:49 PM (PUN5M)
Check out FDR's VPs.
-------
That wasn't political. Each one tired out after 4 years of pushing his wheelchair around.
Posted by: Johnny at August 13, 2011 02:49 PM (iT/Iy)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:49 PM (AZGON)
Admit it. You'd take the worst of them over Obama. So would I.
Fudd/Sam '012! As in Elmer and Yosemite.
Bill the Dead Cat would also be viable. Which reminds me, where has he/she been lately? Handle change, mayhaps?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2011 02:49 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 06:48 PM (hIWe1)
because she's a tea partier! fuck experience running a budget
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:49 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: Marybel at August 13, 2011 02:50 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:50 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 02:50 PM (KcPPc)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:50 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Colin Powell, Opportunist, Not Idiot, Esq. at August 13, 2011 02:51 PM (hbAPu)
Not my candidate, but I actually have her higher than Palin on my list and I don't expect that to change.
ditto for me, as where I don't think Palin could win I think Bachmann could at least be competitive I wish she'd turn down the cheerleading though and sound more like a candidate
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:51 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: Tim Pawlenty at August 13, 2011 02:52 PM (nVLlM)
Could you please explain how you think she can win the general election? Because I will readily confess, I don't think she can win. She seems to be on the ideologue end of the political spectrum, and she has not had executive experience either. I don't know how that reassures a non-ideological voter that a vote for Bachmann would be a "safe" choice.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 02:52 PM (s7mIC)
I guess I'd agree with that assessment as well. But that's mostly because I think Palin is well and truly radioactive, and Bachmann merely less so. Both are certified losers.
Perry unites the streams. Looks like he's the one. Let's hope he doesn't have skeletons in his closet, and can sell himself to the Midwest....because that's where the race is going to be won/lost.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 02:53 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: freemo at August 13, 2011 02:53 PM (Eokk4)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at August 13, 2011 02:53 PM (XIpSR)
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 02:53 PM (5H6zj)
Wait, Huntsman is still in the race? I thought people were kidding about him running.
Posted by: William Teach at August 13, 2011 02:54 PM (Pq9u/)
Posted by: J at August 13, 2011 02:54 PM (LlC1G)
Not that the poll matters one iota.
Posted by: KG at August 13, 2011 02:54 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 06:14 PM (EPcuy)
'Cause Perry wouldn't endorse him in '08 - went with Rudy instead. Huckafatass is a serious grudge-holder and suffers from maximous assholiness.
Posted by: California Doomin' at August 13, 2011 02:54 PM (8DdAv)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 13, 2011 02:54 PM (AF1jB)
Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist at August 13, 2011 02:54 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 06:53 PM (hIWe1)
Perry is down 5-7 to Obama, impressive for a guy who had not at the time jumped in and been as well known as Obama
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:54 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 02:55 PM (KcPPc)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:55 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: t-bird at August 13, 2011 02:55 PM (FcR7P)
Romney is a no-brainer for SecTreas under any GOP administration he doesn't actually lead.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 02:55 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at August 13, 2011 06:53 PM (XIpSR)
I know, and so did Romney
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:56 PM (D6IZ4)
No, they already mentioned Perry's total.
0 for Palin might be the story of the day.
Posted by: Methos at August 13, 2011 02:56 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 13, 2011 02:56 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 02:57 PM (AZGON)
It would be nice to have someone at Treasury who wasn't a Goldman Sachs stooge.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 02:57 PM (s7mIC)
btw I predicted Bachmann winning this, would have been interesting if Perry and/or Romney were involved in this
but again the Ames straw poll is useless
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 02:57 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: Marybel at August 13, 2011 06:50 PM (Hic+o)
Yeah, I'm interested! Let me know what you find! 
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 02:57 PM (i1dgm)
The last representative who won the Presidency was Garfield in the 1880s, who had 18 years of experience, was the Chairman of the Military Affairs Committee and Appropriations Committee and a former Civil War General.
I'm sure she's a great person. She has a great background. Yes, she is an actual conservative. However, there is no chance in hell that she wins the general election.
Posted by: AD at August 13, 2011 02:58 PM (tZyw2)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 13, 2011 02:58 PM (7wmOW)
Try and explain this to her supporters, see what you get back in terms of a reasoned response.
P.S. She's not a great person.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 02:59 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 06:59 PM (hIWe1)
How so? Haven't seen any evidence of that.
Posted by: KG at August 13, 2011 03:00 PM (LD21B)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 03:00 PM (WCm02)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 13, 2011 03:00 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Lauren at August 13, 2011 03:00 PM (cVIY5)
The beltway boys Rove, Kraut, Kristol, all have been peeing themselves over Perry gettin in as they fear the Cuda will crush plastic man Romney.
Saracuda will win if she gets in!
Wait, you're a joke poster, right? This is just a parody of a brain-dead Palin fan, yes?
Nobody who uses the term "Cuda" in a non-sarcastic way deserves to be taken seriously, you do realize?
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 03:01 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Concealed Kerry or submit! at August 13, 2011 06:59 PM (tHnoW)
oh vey
a Palinista claiming Perry is some evil establishment RINO
so predictable
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 03:01 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: CurlyHairedNinjaPatriot at August 13, 2011 03:01 PM (8DdAv)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:01 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 03:02 PM (ym2cX)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at August 13, 2011 03:02 PM (jeLTI)
Posted by: Berserker at August 13, 2011 03:02 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: hstad at August 13, 2011 03:03 PM (e0+7F)
What are they saying? Bitching about Bachmann?
I have to say, watching Palin fans and Bachmann fans attack one another is a bit like watching Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia go to war against each other...pretty tough to decide which side you want to win.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 03:03 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 03:03 PM (WCm02)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 13, 2011 03:04 PM (uVlA4)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at August 13, 2011 03:04 PM (QBQcg)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 13, 2011 07:02 PM (G/MYk)
translation: i'm for Bachmann and no one else can change my mind about that, go team Bachmann!!!
that's cool but as a Perry guy, I can't wish you good luck-unless it's VS Obama
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 03:04 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: hstad at August 13, 2011 07:03 PM (e0+7F)
---
Please tell me this is a sock.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 03:05 PM (5H6zj)
a Palinista claiming Perry is some evil establishment RINO
so predictable
Well, we already had the Paulbot earlier and the Romneyguy yesterday, so we're due.Posted by: Methos at August 13, 2011 03:05 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:05 PM (AZGON)
C4P is "unofficially official." It's nominally independent of Palin, but in reality they have deep lines of communication into Palin's team and are basically one of her semi-controlled propaganda arms. Pretty sure that Palin hired her #1 assistant (the deeply disturbing Rebecca Mansour) off of the site.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 03:05 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2011 06:02 PM (lGFXF)
Don't forget the porn.
Posted by: CurlyHairedNinjaPatriot at August 13, 2011 03:05 PM (8DdAv)
IMO, on the bright side, Bachmann winning this is proof that conservatism is starting to take hold. I don't think she can win the General, especially with Perry announcing today, but she does have a lot of things to contribute to the national conversation.
Now, I just hope SarahCuda doesn't decide to run. Y'all know I love her like a sister (and me being from Alabama, that really means something), but she's just too polarizing, thanks to the MFM. She's better off just playing the coy kingmaker and endorsing Perry later in the race.
Again, IMO. This shit is real. A. Dick has to be deposed as soon as possible for the sake of the nation.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2011 03:06 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: freemo at August 13, 2011 03:06 PM (Eokk4)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 13, 2011 03:06 PM (uVlA4)
Fucking please. The only thing Bachmann is going to stomp on is the dough she'll be kneading to bake us homemade apple pie after she loses the primary.
Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at August 13, 2011 03:06 PM (TCyyS)
They start out with "So, Rick Perry, 61, has now officially broken his promise not to run for the presidency."
They call Bachmann "mini-me" and have equally "clever" insults for the rest of the Republican field. It's mostly just bitching about how little the straw poll means, but the cattiness factor is off the charts.
Posted by: Lauren at August 13, 2011 03:06 PM (cVIY5)
Conservatism and the country be damned. He hates Michele Bachmann and will spend millions of dollars and the next year slandering her."""
I'm finding myself not liking this T-paw dude more and more. I never commented on him, but he just reminds me of a worm.
Posted by: Berserker at August 13, 2011 03:07 PM (FMbng)
Wut? She is Generic Republican.
And that's bad—partly because Generic Republicanism isn't an ideological (as in, consistent or explicable) position-set, and partly because she's...Generic. Like a TV character made of demographic stats and a Party platform.
She's fine, but...who cares? No hook.
(WTF, progress?)
It would be nice to have someone at Treasury who wasn't a Goldman Sachs stooge. Mitt Romney's top campaign contributor is...(world's shortest drumroll)...Goldman Sachs! At $300 grand and counting!
If you want a candidate they don't own, you're stuck with RAUN POL.
I'm sorry. Their country, their rules.
Posted by: oblig. at August 13, 2011 03:07 PM (xvZW9)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 03:07 PM (WCm02)
They're such nasty little backbiting shits over there, aren't they?
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 03:07 PM (hIWe1)
2-2, what a great showing/s
Not exactly a reliable indicator, is it? Regardless, congratulations to Rep. Bachmann for proving the effectiveness of her campaigning and organization.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 13, 2011 03:07 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at August 13, 2011 03:08 PM (jeLTI)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 13, 2011 07:00 PM (7wmOW)
Except that this dumbass skinny black kid was chosen and groomed to be where he is now by very wealthy and very bad people.
We're David vs. Goliath and I'm confident that we'll win.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:08 PM (i1dgm)
Dude, it's a weekend. and there's no football thread.
Posted by: Methos at August 13, 2011 03:09 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at August 13, 2011 07:08 PM (jeLTI)
i'd rather have no sec of energy at all
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 03:10 PM (D6IZ4)
If Pawlenty stays in the race solely for this purpose, he's doing a service to America, the conservative movement, and the Republican Party. And it would be Perry he ends up helping in that scenario, not Romney (because he takes votes from Romney). So is your argument that RICK PERRY is now somehow a RINO too? If so, keep fucking that chicken!
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 03:10 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 07:07 PM (hIWe1)
As opposed to your sweetness?
Posted by: Tami at August 13, 2011 03:10 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 13, 2011 03:10 PM (7wmOW)
Iowa, of course we should turn to them. I mean we do on everything else don't we.............................. oh, sorry.
Posted by: journolist at August 13, 2011 03:11 PM (Fb9Q0)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 13, 2011 07:10 PM (G/MYk)
a 3rd party is support for Obama
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 03:11 PM (D6IZ4)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Bitches) at August 13, 2011 03:12 PM (D6IZ4)
Damn, that's pretty fucking harsh. I guess the Ames Straw Poll was good for at least one thing.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 03:13 PM (hIWe1)
Posted by: Nickie Goomba at August 13, 2011 03:13 PM (jeLTI)
Would you support a third-party candidate? If Michele Bachmann were running as the "Tea Party" candidate in the general election vs. Obama (Dem) and, say, Romney (GOP), would you vote Bachmann?
Just curious.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 03:14 PM (hIWe1)
Recipe for boring:
One can of cream of mushroom soup.
Simmer.
Serve while reading a blog about Iowa Straw Poll.
Posted by: journolist at August 13, 2011 03:14 PM (Fb9Q0)
But Bachmann and Paul were the expected winners.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 13, 2011 03:15 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:16 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Berserker at August 13, 2011 03:16 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 13, 2011 07:10 PM (7wmOW)
I don't know. I don't think anybody knows.
I don't think Obama fooled them so much as they allowed themselves to be fooled. The media was/is the enabler of false hopes but I think that era has made the turn.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:17 PM (i1dgm)
They don't understand they hurt her more than they help.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 13, 2011 03:19 PM (KDiB0)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:19 PM (AZGON)
"Would you like fries with that?"
Posted by: Julio Osegueda at August 13, 2011 03:20 PM (WCm02)
Recipe for boring:
One can of cream of mushroom soup.
Simmer.
Serve while reading a blog about Iowa Straw Poll.
Posted by: journolist at August 13, 2011 07:14 PM (Fb9Q0)
You left out the can of water to dilute the concentrate.
What, are you trying to burn down your house?
That wouldn't be boring anymore!
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:20 PM (i1dgm)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 13, 2011 03:21 PM (AF1jB)
They're such nasty little backbiting shits over there, aren't they?
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 13, 2011 07:07 PM (hIWe1)
Well ...didn't he say he wasn't going to run?
I have no problem with Perry changing his mind ...or someone pointing that out
Posted by: beedubya at August 13, 2011 03:21 PM (AnTyA)
Anyway, that's why I'm not a Bachmann fan.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 03:22 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 13, 2011 03:23 PM (PcoXF)
Overall, quite a large turn out and kind of fun.
Posted by: Grimaldi at August 13, 2011 03:23 PM (D+b2C)
Anyway, I like Palin and Bachmann and see no rivalry between the two. Bachmann is my clear preference, but I'd take either.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 13, 2011 07:18 PM (G/MYk)
I'd take them together...IYKWIMAIITYD
Posted by: beedubya at August 13, 2011 03:23 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:23 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Berserker at August 13, 2011 07:16 PM (FMbng)
Can't argue with that.
Posted by: A Bit Of Rick Perry Splooge On The Side Of The Mouth at August 13, 2011 03:24 PM (EL+OC)
At this point going into SC and Florida we will be left with Romney, Perry, Bachmann, and Paul, with Romney and Perry the frontrunners. Paul won't drop out because his cultish followers will continue funding him. This leaves Bachmann, who I believe could be the spoiler. The issue will be who does she harm more, Romney or Perry, and what influence she will want to have on the race. This will go at the very least until Super Tuesday and possible later.
One very positive impact that I think Perry will have on this race is that it will force Romney to actually work for this instead of simply being ordained as the candidate.
Posted by: King Putt at August 13, 2011 03:25 PM (bftak)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:25 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at August 13, 2011 03:25 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Grimaldi at August 13, 2011 07:23 PM (D+b2C)
good for you, it looked like fun. Nothing better than face to face politics. as far as politics goes.
Posted by: robtr at August 13, 2011 03:26 PM (MtwBb)
There's a difference between pointing it out, and being a total bitch about it. C4P definitely falls into the latter category.
Posted by: Lauren at August 13, 2011 03:27 PM (cVIY5)
According to Rasmussen he certainly could. The head of one of the Tea Party groups said that if they ran a squish they would run a 3rd Party candidate and Rasmussen said 18% of the normal Republican voters would go with the Tea Party candidate.
It will not be Palin though as she is a Party regular and will support the party.
So all you Romneybots better keep that in mind. He truly is the unelectable candidate. Not only will he lose all the Southern red States but he will cause a 3rd party run as well.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 03:27 PM (M9Ie6)
I would prefer any of the other GOP candidates to Perry, except for Huntsman, since he's an open borders Hispanderer too.
Posted by: Jon at August 13, 2011 03:27 PM (Cu7Ii)
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at August 13, 2011 03:27 PM (ACkhT)
I like thick boring.
Posted by: journolist at August 13, 2011 07:21 PM (Fb9Q0)
Personal tastes may vary!
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:28 PM (i1dgm)
Posted by: journolist at August 13, 2011 03:29 PM (Fb9Q0)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 07:25 PM (c0A3e)
Nope, nobody's said anything like that. (heh)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 13, 2011 03:29 PM (PcoXF)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:30 PM (AZGON)
What is so terribly wrong with the idea of being in favor of Romney for his superb managerial experience (which, even you have to admit, is a lot better than any of the other candidates), and also in favor of a solid conservative Congress to keep his more RINO-ish tendences in check?
I'm not saying I am in favor of Romney at this point. But I do kinda think he is the inevitable candidate. I'm just preparing myself for the post-hoc rationalizations.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 03:30 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: journolist at August 13, 2011 03:30 PM (Fb9Q0)
I know a couple of folks who seem to be favoring Bachmann, but I'm in Utah. Very conservative here.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 03:30 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at August 13, 2011 03:30 PM (ACkhT)
You're not fooling anyone. Shove off....you're not welcome in these parts.
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 03:31 PM (WCm02)
Posted by: Marybel at August 13, 2011 07:22 PM (Hic+o)
Thanks, I want the horny toad batting! I love shirts like those!
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:31 PM (i1dgm)
If it's Sunday, they drive across the border to get a six-pack from Nebraska or South Dakota.
Otherwise, they have to go to the state sanctioned liquor outlet.
Very conservative state. Not.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 03:31 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 03:31 PM (EPcuy)
Why inevitable, chemjeff?
I'm a pragmatist at heart, but I think Perry will win (primary and general).
I would vote for Romney, but not enthusiastically. However, I'd be fine with him for VP.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 03:32 PM (5H6zj)
Buys 6000 votes and only wins by 152?
Earlier it was the Corn Dog stupidity.
Before that, stupid gaffes that could have been avoided by Googling something.
Who the fuck is running her campaign?
John McCain?
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 13, 2011 03:33 PM (lpWVn)
Hope is for the weak...
(I know what you mean, but there's a scene in GoW3 where Kratos is walking with Pandora and when Pandora starts talking about "hope", the famous hero belts out that line.)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 03:33 PM (c0A3e)
2) Cain WILL get out because HE said he needed to be third (among sane candidates) to bother staying in. Timing will be dependent on when the book tour is ready to start
3) Huntsman will NOT go third party, unless Soros funds it. He doesn't have enough conviction to put his money into his own campaign now. Negotiations for Dept of Commerce or similar position with Perry / Mittens begin Monday
4) Santorum will fly from Iowa directly to Texas to negotiate with Perry
5) Gary Johnson is currently working Mitten's knob
6) McCotter stays in because it doesn't cost him anything by being in.
Posted by: at August 13, 2011 03:33 PM (T3vCe)
I think his "management experience" is a lot of hype. No more RINOs and he is a sure loser as I said. The South will not vote for a liberal NE gun grabber. So yes, that lets out Rudy as well.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 03:33 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at August 13, 2011 03:34 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at August 13, 2011 03:34 PM (QBQcg)
He won't win SC as Perry is almost certainly a shoo-in. It's possible Romney could finish 3rd depending on how strong Bachmann appears to be at that point.
My guess is Romney will skip SC just like he did last time and head straight for Florida.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 13, 2011 03:36 PM (bftak)
He is pretty much skipping SC as well. He will win in NH and then it is on to FL. Its the Rudy strategy that worked so well in 2008.
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 03:36 PM (M9Ie6)
They also had a Perry post drooling over his college photos.
I think we've identified the origins of any Perry is gay rumors that pop up.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 03:36 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 13, 2011 03:37 PM (ZDUD4)
http://tinyurl.com/3nhqd5m
Intellectually I have no problem with it, but wait until a female umpire dies after being run over by a running back or a closing linebacker
Posted by: Ombudsman at August 13, 2011 03:38 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: journolist at August 13, 2011 07:30 PM (Fb9Q0)
Since you went way off topic, I'll briefly enjoin it.
I saw a bald eagle at work a few weeks ago. It was about 500 feet up and circling.
Pretty fucking sweet!
I hope it wasn't waiting for me to keel over.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:38 PM (i1dgm)
In many ways the Ames poll is not an honest one.
1)You can bus in supporters.
2)Delegates can give away voting authorization cards.
3)Delegate supporters (the voters) can lie and steel.
And that leads me to believe that Ames is a clever measure of a combination of political drivers. Money, strategy, level of genuine support, ability to get out the vote (at different levels of financial commitment) and probably some factors I haven't thought of.
It has its uses as a measure of factors that relate to campaign abilities as opposed factors that relate to the rationality of any given policy position.
Posted by: Jack at August 13, 2011 03:38 PM (8IAHO)
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 07:31 PM (Qxe/p)
Lived there (all three places). Same goes for OK - but while there, the state store was closer to the house at the time.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 13, 2011 03:38 PM (PcoXF)
Michele Bachmann winning in Iowa has absolutely no significance in the overall plan of seizing the White House.
You can't say it's not historic though, right?
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 03:39 PM (WCm02)
Chaos,
.#369 Well, I'm going to have to get up and make the man a sammich pretty soon.
Men can make their own sammichs, ya know. You're not being faithful to the sisterhood!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 03:39 PM (c0A3e)
Chemjeff, Perry just blew a big hole in everybody else's campaign today.
Romney just became an also ran. He's in danger, brought on by himself and his MassCare bill. The GOP establishment thought it was "his turn," alá Juan McLame. No such shit of that kind will be tolerated this time around.
They are becoming increasingly irrelevant thanks to the Tea Party, who will soon control the Republican party through a hostile takeover at the local level. People are bypassing them and sending money directly to their candidate, which I think is a wonderful thing.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2011 03:40 PM (d0Tfm)
I saw a bald eagle at work a few weeks ago. It was about 500 feet up and circling.
Pretty fucking sweet!
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Coolio. I've seen a few here in Utah. It's always amazing.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 03:40 PM (5H6zj)
It was about 500 feet up and circling.
Pretty fucking sweet!I hope it wasn't waiting for me to keel over
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 07:38 PM (i1dgm)
It was probably stalking somebodies Chihuahua.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 13, 2011 03:40 PM (lpWVn)
I prefer to have my man conserve his strength for other activities.
I told him about CoolCzech and the ceiling. He considers it a personal challenge.
And we have a vaulted ceiling in our bedroom.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 03:41 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 13, 2011 03:43 PM (ZDUD4)
We live near Seattle and we have two Bald Eagles living across the street from us. George and Martha...get it? George/Martha Washington.
I crack myself up.
Needless to say, our little Kitty hasn't been outside for about 8 months.
Posted by: Barbarian at August 13, 2011 03:43 PM (EL+OC)
that's okay, they're only going to hire bull dykes
so it will be a close call to see who will be hurt more, the linebacker or the ref
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 03:43 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 13, 2011 03:43 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2011 03:43 PM (lGFXF)
And we have a vaulted ceiling in our bedroom.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 07:41 PM (5H6zj)
Hussy!
Posted by: Your Grandmother at August 13, 2011 03:44 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: texexec at August 13, 2011 03:44 PM (YUUv/)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 13, 2011 03:45 PM (uoAzW)
Posted by: Ombudsman at August 13, 2011 07:38 PM (AxHOT)
Nah, the ladies will be fine. I'm guessing they're athletic if they've been doing this for awhile already.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:45 PM (i1dgm)
Otherwise, they have to go to the state sanctioned liquor outlet.
Very conservative state. Not.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 07:31 PM (Qxe/p)
You're living in the past, amigo. Iowa got rid of all their state-owned liquor stores in the spring of 1987. I remember, because I was a freshman at Iowa State then, and we bought a whole carload of leftover wine when the store in West Ames got down to 70% off. It cost us about $200 and we stayed drunk for......OK, we drank it all in a week. But we were all borderline alkies at the time, so it WAS a sweet deal.
And to summarize Iowa's role in the process, let me say this: Iowa isn't about picking winners. It's about being the Republican Party's Nelson Muntz: We point at the losers and say HAAA HAAAAAAAA. If you don't at least compete in Iowa, you lose the nomination.
Unless it's a weird year where a bunch of other douchebag states open their primaries to "independents" & Dems, then you get McCain as your nominee......and we all remember how THAT worked out.
Posted by: Russ from Winterset at August 13, 2011 03:45 PM (/MEFr)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 03:45 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:46 PM (AZGON)
Hey, buddy! Haven't seen you in dogs years, how've you been keeping?
Posted by: Peaches is perplexed at August 13, 2011 03:46 PM (PUN5M)
Posted by: Texan Economist at August 13, 2011 03:47 PM (TC/9F)
FIFY
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 03:47 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 03:47 PM (M9Ie6)
I think Palin was going to run. I believe she thought Perry wasn't. Now that Perry is in I don't think she will.
This leaves Bachmann as the T-party Candidate, Perry as the Conservative GOP candidate and Romney as the MSM selected rino.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 13, 2011 07:43 PM (ZDUD4)
If Perry keeps talking about marginalizing the influence of Washington on the rest of the country, I wouldn't be so quick to discount his appeal to the Tea Party voters.
Posted by: Russ from Winterset at August 13, 2011 03:47 PM (/MEFr)
I think Palin was going to run. I believe she thought Perry wasn't. Now that Perry is in I don't think she will.
This leaves Bachmann as the T-party Candidate, Perry as the Conservative GOP candidate and Romney as the MSM selected rino.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 13, 2011 07:43 PM (ZDUD4)
I think Palin was blindsided by Bachmann's announcement to run, and that that really threw a wrench into her (Palin's) plans also.
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 03:47 PM (WCm02)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 03:47 PM (wuc0V)
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 07:47 PM (s7mIC)
I can neither confirm or deny that statement
Posted by: at August 13, 2011 03:48 PM (T3vCe)
Nooo!! You're thinking of the sex mini-game with Aphrodite...
Which I didn't do because my prowess with the GoW controls is awesome and I didn't need the experience orbs provided by Aphrodite to proceed with the game..
/And if you believe that...
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 03:48 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 03:48 PM (s7mIC)
Let me know if you want to engage in trash talk for 9/10/11.
We're at your place that day.
Posted by: Mister Christopher at August 13, 2011 03:49 PM (cjGZv)
Coolio. I've seen a few here in Utah. It's always amazing.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 07:40 PM (5H6zj)
There's a couple nests near a reservoir about 10 miles to the north but they sometimes hunt near the course, according the DNR website.
Badass!
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 03:49 PM (i1dgm)
Heh. Fox does know that Texas has over a quarter million square miles, right?
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 13, 2011 03:49 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: Gary Johnson at August 13, 2011 03:49 PM (n/ok1)
ahem
I have to go to a friggin' liquor store to get a bottle of vermouth for cooking. And they're closing the two closest ones for budget reasons. The closest one will be 15 miles away.
Posted by: Y-not in Utah at August 13, 2011 03:49 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:49 PM (AZGON)
Indeed. Won't stop him from spending millions in a fruitless attempt to win though. Which is fine with me. Local media markets can use the cash.
Posted by: Slublog at August 13, 2011 03:50 PM (/W5xe)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2011 03:50 PM (lGFXF)
My guess too. Florida will be make or break for Mittens and he'll have to win Florida to make it to Super Tuesday. If he loses Florida he's done.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 13, 2011 03:51 PM (bftak)
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 13, 2011 03:51 PM (J4Pnx)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 13, 2011 03:51 PM (ZDUD4)
What is the drag on Governor Perry?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 03:51 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Gary Johnson at August 13, 2011 07:49 PM (n/ok1)
Yeah and next time pay up, bitch!
Posted by: Gary Johnson's stiffed Iowa weed dealer at August 13, 2011 03:51 PM (s7mIC)
Thankfully, it rained in DFW and is storming in West Texas.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 13, 2011 03:51 PM (o2lIv)
Well, PA has a Republican governmental trifecta, so let's see if Corbett and crew have the balls to finally drive a stake through the heart of this archaic Dem patronage factory
Posted by: Ombudsman at August 13, 2011 03:52 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 13, 2011 03:52 PM (AZGON)
That's good to hear.
I went to Iowa State (physics/chem major) 1966-1967.
Majored in partying (Phi Kappa Tau fraternity), so Uncle Sam decided I'd be better off in the Military.
Got a degree from Western Iowa Tech (2-year, Electronics Engineering) in 1974. A 2 year degree was actually worth something back then.
As I look back on things, partying was fun, and Uncle Sam was right (aptitude testing). I'm good at what I do.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 03:53 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 13, 2011 07:51 PM (o2lIv)
I miss Stevie Ray....
Posted by: Ombudsman at August 13, 2011 03:53 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: Jack at August 13, 2011 03:54 PM (8IAHO)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 13, 2011 03:55 PM (uoAzW)
Governor Johnson, do ya know who made the All-Conference Big Ten Bong Team during his time at the University of Iowa?
(pointing at self with both thumbs)
Get back to me when you've smoked a bale whilst finishing your BA and BFA inside o' four (4) years. Granted, neither curriculum was very strenuous.
But still.
Posted by: Mister Christopher at August 13, 2011 03:56 PM (cjGZv)
Posted by: Daybrother at August 13, 2011 03:57 PM (mexsR)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 13, 2011 03:58 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Vic at August 13, 2011 04:00 PM (M9Ie6)
You can tell that scene was developed by people who don't engage in decadence very often,
. While my own knowledge in this area is non-existent, I suspect very few women, and 2 of them at the same time to boot!, would find the sight of a pale, gaunt man plowing into a goddess stimulating. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 04:01 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 04:01 PM (wuc0V)
HuffPo's already done an article, trying to keep that up in the Google results.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 13, 2011 04:01 PM (PcoXF)
Anybody but Perry! I've seen his actions, first hand, in Texas....he'll pander to the illegals and say he won't.....
Under Perry, Texas was one of the first states to give illegals in state tuition. He openly stated he was against the border fence....
Beware!
I'd vote Kinky Friedman before I'd vote Perry and I'm about as far right (excluding all the social crap) as you can get.....
Posted by: Cat at August 13, 2011 04:01 PM (x0PlF)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 04:03 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 04:05 PM (wuc0V)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at August 13, 2011 04:06 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 08:01 PM (c0A3e)
It is a quicktime event though. Kratos does some impossible things in those.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 13, 2011 04:06 PM (uhAkr)
Probably a Cyclone. Ew. My freshman year ('89) a buddy of mine hooked up with an Ag major from Iowa State. She was a walking petri dish, apparently.
Every time he came out of bathroom, I'd ask, "Did the burning stop?" And I asked that question many times over several days.
But thanks for looking out.
Posted by: Mister Christopher at August 13, 2011 04:07 PM (cjGZv)
hahaha Thank you God!
Where? Not here.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 13, 2011 07:43 PM (J4Pnx)
Out in the west Texas town of El Paso..
...and it's moving East
Posted by: beedubya at August 13, 2011 04:07 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 04:08 PM (EPcuy)
Sarah Palin: “There is still a lot of contemplation that goes on within a family, deciding whether to engage in such a life-changing venture, putting yourself forward in the name of service, in such a position as President of the United States. So, we’re still thinking about it, and the impact on family. Family comes first in my life, and I just don’t want to adversely affect the family. So, we’re still talking about it, thinking about it. And that’s what I want supporters to understand. At the same time, I want to be very fair to supporters and not keep them hanging on in perpetuity. It’s fair to them to give them an answer here, in short order, so that they can jump on board with someone else. And/or to decide for themselves what they want to do. So, still haven’t made up my mind, haven’t decided when that announcement would be yet.”
David Brody: “Is that short order by the end of September? October?
Sarah Palin: “I think that that is a fair timeline for people, because Fall time, they can start getting engaged with different campaigns, but still thinking about it, and really, really desiring to be a participant in the positive change that needs to happen in this country. Economy getting back on the right track. Jobs created for Americans, I want to be a part of that whether it be as a candidate, or as a supporter of the right candidate. I’m still in that decision making phase.”
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 04:10 PM (5H6zj)
heh - at least Kinky Friedman believes in getting rid of smoking bans
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 04:10 PM (s7mIC)
Texas Tribune article
"Perry's TWIA Nemesis Promises to Continue His Fight"
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 13, 2011 04:10 PM (PcoXF)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 04:10 PM (EPcuy)
Hear it's an armpit of a town.
Posted by: Mister Christopher at August 13, 2011 04:11 PM (cjGZv)
Posted by: Jack at August 13, 2011 07:54 PM (8IAHO)
I've always believed that she would have a stronger influence on the process if she didn't commit to anything and just proceeded to be a pain in the ass. She's like the knight in a chess game.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 04:11 PM (i1dgm)
Yes, but they are always fun to watch.
Some enterprising soul should splice some quicktime events with the cinematics from the GoW games; the result would be a movie that is probably better than 80% of the dreck circulating in the theaters right now.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 04:12 PM (c0A3e)
__________
But if you're ready for it, it's not post-hoc, is it?
Posted by: Anachronda at August 13, 2011 04:13 PM (6fER6)
Until the Chinese start to institute them.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 13, 2011 04:13 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at August 13, 2011 04:13 PM (XIpSR)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 04:13 PM (wuc0V)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 08:08 PM (EPcuy)
Joffen I agree. We will see after the primary season ends though.
Goal #1 is to get Obama out.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 04:16 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 04:21 PM (WCm02)
The average "Trib" reader loves their Democrats and can't get enough of them.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 13, 2011 04:21 PM (PcoXF)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 13, 2011 04:23 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: Spiker at August 13, 2011 04:24 PM (4t9J5)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 04:24 PM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 13, 2011 07:51 PM (o2lIv)
Your storms are the sweet sweet tears of Obamatards.
Posted by: robtr at August 13, 2011 04:24 PM (MtwBb)
Coolio. I've seen a few here in Utah. It's always amazing.
__________
Mission Control, who used to have a raptor handler's permit back when she was volunteering at Hogle Zoo, tells me that if you see a bird circling up high in Utah, it's usually a red-tailed hawk.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 13, 2011 04:25 PM (6fER6)
Posted by: pko STRANY at August 13, 2011 04:26 PM (RJOgX)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 04:28 PM (wuc0V)
Our job isn't over once President Perry gets sworn in. We still have to hold his feet to the fire and make sure he doesn't do anything we don't want him to do.
This is why I'm not worried about his stance on immigration (if it's as bad as people make it out to be). We are the ones with the real power. Let's not forget that.
You are exactly right. That is what I keep trying to tell people. As long as the candidate isn't completely nuts on the issue, it doesn't matter too much what the candidate's views are, AS LONG AS we have a solid conservative Congress. That is why I just laugh when I see people bringing up things like T-Paw's one time support for cap-and-trade. Only Congress can approve such a thing and a conservative Congress isn't going to do it regardless of what T-Paw thinks.
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 04:29 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 04:32 PM (WCm02)
#423, Yeah, Kratos, saw that at the DUmp. Here's my take: Perry's been in politics for a long time. If somebody could have produced verifiable proof he wouldn't have been elected to his 3rd term as Gov. Same with the rumors of him having been unfaithful.
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT at August 13, 2011 04:33 PM (Zgfnd)
Hear it's an armpit of a town.
Posted by: Mister Christopher at August 13, 2011 08:11 PM (cjGZv)
Sewer City? It's OK, if you like a more wholesome version of Gary, Indiana. They're giving Ottumwa and Dubuque a run for their money in the "armpit of Iowa" race.
I had to work today, so I haven't been to Ames. Plus, Moses stepped on a piece of barb wire in the garden this morning & cut his foot from toe to heel. We took him to the ER, but it was so shallow that they didn't even glue/staple it shut. They just put some salve on it & wrapped it with gauze. I bought him some ice cream & he's crashed on the couch right now watching cartoons.
Posted by: Russ from Winterset at August 13, 2011 04:33 PM (/MEFr)
No. But Steve Perry will admit to sex with Will Smith.
Posted by: kdny at August 13, 2011 04:34 PM (5dBwQ)
Posted by: Lauren at August 13, 2011 06:48 PM (cVIY5)
------------------------------------
They see it as the launch of their grassroots campaign.
Never intended to put big $$ into winning or placing high.
McCotter is definitely building support with college crowd.
He may surprise you - slow, steady -- all that. :-)
Posted by: MapleSyrup at August 13, 2011 04:35 PM (inuXh)
Posted by: Anachronda at August 13, 2011 08:25 PM (6fER6)
Red tailed hawks are common around here and sweet to watch. They always perch on the highest point of a dead tree or transmission tower and you can hear the screech for miles!
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 04:36 PM (i1dgm)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 13, 2011 04:36 PM (Qjh0I)
?
I thought he was from Scranton.
Posted by: kdny at August 13, 2011 04:36 PM (5dBwQ)
Posted by: The Rest Is Noise AudioBook at August 13, 2011 04:36 PM (UY4BR)
Posted by: SlaveDog at August 13, 2011 04:36 PM (PidTa)
Oh, I just bet you are!
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT at August 13, 2011 04:38 PM (Zgfnd)
Well, we certainly don't want the local Republican Party in a swing state raising funds and involving voters in the political process. That might make local voters in the state more likly to vote Republican in the general election.
Wait....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 13, 2011 04:38 PM (EeYDk)
probably the same reason he hates the rest of us by "gracing" us with his presence
Posted by: chemjeff at August 13, 2011 04:38 PM (s7mIC)
If he performs as well as he ought, they'll be crushed. We don't play nice in Texas politics.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 13, 2011 04:39 PM (o2lIv)
Yup. First year of the school's existence.
At that time, it was in a vacant nunnery a couple of blocks from Sioux Tools.
Graduated 1974, straight-A grade point.
461 (Mister Christopher) I's born in Sioux City (IA). St. Luke's. Haven't been there since '75.
Me, too. Did that in 1948. I've obviously not been back since after 1987.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 04:39 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 04:41 PM (WCm02)
What separates him from Obama is that he doesn't stutter.
Both are clusterfucks, though.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 04:42 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 13, 2011 08:39 PM (o2lIv)
He will, I haven't heard a speech that good since Reagan and I mean that.
Posted by: robtr at August 13, 2011 04:43 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: SlaveDog at August 13, 2011 04:44 PM (PidTa)
I heard (a few threads ago, so it must be true) that Perry refused to endorse Huckafoo.
Yet another reason to vote Perry.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 04:44 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 08:41 PM (WCm02)
He's a fat Gomer Pyle except that Gomer was at least a Marine.
Posted by: robtr at August 13, 2011 04:45 PM (MtwBb)
BTW - isn't that 2007 Conservative Blogger of the Year Award banner in the sidebar from CPAC, another pay to vote gig?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 13, 2011 04:46 PM (EeYDk)
Posted by: Breaker19 at August 13, 2011 04:46 PM (WCm02)
Posted by: Willy at August 13, 2011 04:46 PM (UsfPL)
Posted by: SlaveDog at August 13, 2011 04:47 PM (PidTa)
Posted by: Peaches is perplexed at August 13, 2011 08:48 PM (PUN5M)
For a run for the WH or together in a bath house?
Posted by: Barbarian at August 13, 2011 04:50 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: Lo and Behold! at August 13, 2011 04:52 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 04:52 PM (V/jac)
...
Clearly the ticket will be Bachmann/Paul.
Strangely, that sounds appealing.
(In the same way as fried butter...)
Posted by: Warthog at August 13, 2011 04:54 PM (WDySP)
Why would we waste the best guy we have in the legislature to be in a useless executive position?
Posted by: lowandslow at August 13, 2011 04:54 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Lo and Behold! at August 13, 2011 04:56 PM (piMMO)
I didn't know Secretary of the Treasury was a useless position.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 13, 2011 04:56 PM (Qxe/p)
I'd definitely support Ryan for OMB director. But he's too toxic at the moment (wish it wasn't so) and I could see him weighing-down Perry. Though that could (could) change if Perry is able to sell entitlement reform in a seemingly more personal way. But would Perry pick him even if that worked? Ryan also wants to be chairman of Ways & Means and he's about to start work on overhauling the budget system (including baseline budgeting), so he'll be occupied with that for some time.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 13, 2011 04:57 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Lo and Behold! at August 13, 2011 08:53 PM (piMMO)
If you mean "number 2" in toddler-speak, I think it works.
Posted by: Peaches is not as pissed as yesterday at August 13, 2011 04:57 PM (PUN5M)
Nah, the couple that I saw had the white head. I am decent at picking out raptors.
Posted by: Y-not at August 13, 2011 04:57 PM (5H6zj)
It has to be Mike Castle.
Or Lincoln Chafee.
Nope - Mike Bloomberg! Yeah! I've got him on speed-dial!
Posted by: Republican Establishment Consultant at August 13, 2011 04:58 PM (s7mIC)
You want your number two to be an asset to the ticket, I don't see Santorum doing that. Pawlenty on the other hand is would be a safe bet and really he would be a perfect VP. He could speak on policy without making an ass out of himself and let's face it, that would be as far as he could go politically.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 13, 2011 05:00 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Lo and Behold! at August 13, 2011 08:53 PM (piMMO)
Santorum is electoral poison. He'd be much better off in a cabinet position
Posted by: Ombudsman at August 13, 2011 05:01 PM (AxHOT)
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 05:03 PM (i1dgm)
Posted by: Lo and Behold! at August 13, 2011 05:07 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Peaches is not as pissed as yesterday at August 13, 2011 05:08 PM (PUN5M)
Posted by: Peaches is not as pissed as yesterday at August 13, 2011 09:08 PM (PUN5M)
Better have mops handy because a lot of heads gonna explode over that.
Posted by: KG at August 13, 2011 05:09 PM (LD21B)
___________
Cool. Not certain I've seen one myself.
Back when I was 16 and doing the YCC thing at the Ouray National Wildlife Refuge, our work detail stumbled across an ailing Golden Eagle. One of the Utes on our crew (who also happened to be a yoot) nursed it back to health over the next few days. The rest of us couldn't help him because, being white folk, we're not allowed to touch them.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 13, 2011 05:10 PM (6fER6)
If you embiggen the pic, apparently he is. With a windowpane check shirt. Don't get me wrong, I am firmly in his corner, but there is something very used-car-salesman about the way he looks.
Posted by: Peaches is not as pissed as yesterday at August 13, 2011 05:11 PM (PUN5M)
Better have mops handy because a lot of heads gonna explode over that.
Posted by: KG at August 13, 2011 09:09 PM (LD21B)
Hey, if Obama can appoint sick ass pervs to Safe School Czar, the Nuge can be in any Cabinet position he wants.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 05:18 PM (i1dgm)
Yep! He is indeedy! I'm from the south and I like seersucker, I'm just really REALLY surprised to see it on Perry. And, he needs moisturizer.
Posted by: Lo and Behold! at August 13, 2011 05:18 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Peaches is not as pissed as yesterday at August 13, 2011 05:20 PM (PUN5M)
>> With a windowpane check shirt. Don't get me wrong, I am firmly in his corner, but there is something very used-car-salesman about the way he looks.
Posted by: Peaches is not as pissed as yesterday at August 13, 2011 09:11 PM (PUN5M)
Careful about the windowpane reference. But re: the used-car-salesman thing -- yeah, I can see that. He's got the orange glow working too.
Posted by: The Piñon Farmer formerly known as NM Hick at August 13, 2011 05:28 PM (IzuWw)
>>>You notice the coverage from the liberal/MSM about Perry? Compare that to the coverage of Bachmann and Palin. They are taking Perry seriously. Super-cereal seriously.
Posted by: Joffen at August 13, 2011 08:52 PM (V/jac)
Lets say Romney is the nominee, there will be a concerted Democrat smear campaign on the weirdness of Mormonism. After this Obama will give a "historic and brilliant" speech calling for tolerance for all religious beliefs.
Take any Republican candidate and any perceived weakness.
Rinse and repeat.
Posted by: andyet at August 13, 2011 05:36 PM (MwTP4)
Hey, if Obama can appoint sick ass pervs to Safe School Czar, the Nuge can be in any Cabinet position he wants.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 09:18 PM (i1dgm)
I meant liberal heads, obviously.
Posted by: KG at August 13, 2011 05:37 PM (LD21B)
I meant liberal heads, obviously.
Posted by: KG at August 13, 2011 09:37 PM (LD21B)
Of course, we already knew that.
Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2011 05:39 PM (i1dgm)
McCotter is definitely building support with college crowd.
He may surprise you - slow, steady -- all that. :-)
Posted by: MapleSyrup at August 13, 2011 08:35 PM (inuXh)
McCotter wanted to make a speech covered on national TV and in the arena. He probably hoped for more last-minute votes, but he was followed by Cain, who was even better.
He's so darned likable.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 05:44 PM (73tyQ)
Posted by: moronpolitics at August 13, 2011 05:59 PM (8gBqS)
Posted by: CMU VET at August 13, 2011 06:28 PM (/M8/2)
Posted by: moronpolitics at August 13, 2011 09:59 PM (8gBqS)
That's not entirely true IIRC. You can give it to other campaigns and save it for later campaigns and do some other things with it, but you can't just buy a house with it.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 13, 2011 06:43 PM (73tyQ)
Winning the Ames Straw Poll is a negative indicator of your chances of winning the nomination and/or general election. Only George W. Bush won Ames and the Presidency the same cycle. Besides him, only Dole won Ames and the nomination.
It's just barely better than even chances (56.25%) that the winner of Ames will win the Caucuses in a few months.
Congratulations to Romney and Perry for not wasting the money on what is nothing more than a fundraising gimmick for the Iowa GOP.
Posted by: Adjoran at August 13, 2011 06:49 PM (VfmLu)
Just got back from the state fair there. A local tv station sponsors a "cast your kernel" vote, where you get one kernel of corn and you drop it into a jar representing the candidate of your choice. In first place was Obama, not suprisingly. However, the Republic votes, collectively, outnumbered Obama's by 2 to 1. This is, obviously, totally unscientific. But I do remember in 2004 and 2008 that the kernel counts roughly reflected the state of things. So this was good to see.
Posted by: Cornfed at August 13, 2011 08:56 PM (JMJHT)
Posted by: GHD at August 14, 2011 02:10 AM (UDaJ+)
Jeff B comments:
They're such nasty little backbiting shits over there, aren't they?
Then he goes on to say:
I have to say, watching Palin fans and Bachmann fans attack one another is a bit like watching Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia go to war against each other...pretty tough to decide which side you want to win.
And again:
He hates Michele Bachmann and will spend millions of dollars and the next year slandering her.
If Pawlenty stays in the race solely for this purpose, he's doing a service to America, the conservative movement, and the Republican Party.
Monumental lack of self-awareness and an ego the size of the great outdoors. Besides, how does this advance any political debate?
Must keep to my usual practice of scolling past any of his comments.
Posted by: Decaf at August 14, 2011 03:26 AM (XUoX3)
You mean, like in actual elections? With an advertising budget? I'm shocked.
"and voters have to buy tickets to vote"
This is so silly that I'm not even going to bother.
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