1 Very well put!

2

Is this a threat?

Not hardly.

Not to worry, they will call it one anyway. They are as nutty as the asshole in Tuscon.

3 Excellent Post ~All Hail Open Blogger !

4 This is all because Bush did not care. This poor young man is twisted because of the Bush recession. Too President Obama was not elected sooner to help this young man.

5 What about us?

6 There is only one way to cripple the MFM - money. Stop subscribing to their channels, stop visiting their websites, loudly boycott them and their sponsors. Do not buy products advertised during their programs and let the sponsors know why you refuse to buy their products. When the money starts drying up, the PTB at the major media outlets will start paying attention. We, as consumers, have the power to do this. If we only make the effort.

7 Ross Douthat actually has a pretty good article in the NY times about not blaming anyone for the actions of crazy people... then of course you read the comments and people are mentally ill about Sarah Palin being a murderer and needing to be charged. If we are on the defensive about this it worries me, the good in me wants to say this man was just crazy lets all recognize that but the realist in me realizes the far left is going to try to use this to score political points. We should be out there reminding the people that political violence is a time honored tradition on the left while its a exception for those of us on the right.

8

 We break bread

Ahhh.... you BREAK, ie destroy, Bread...

Calling for worldwide food price increases which of course, hurt poor third world citizens the worst! Evil Evil Rethuglican!

9

The MFM is losing money now -- the government will prop it up, and that will make the MFM even more their lap dogs than they are now.

Already there are congressmen calling for legislature to ban "inciteful language" (notice the very broadbrush usage -- so it will mean whatever someone in power wants it to mean), a ban on guns, and to get more "security" on the internet.

All of this for our own good.  The only thing to do is protest this -- and take the risk (and there will be one I'm afraid).

10 Apology to Afghan war vets from Sen. Linda Lopez coming in 3....2.....1......

11 Agreed, yet talking to those folks is like talking to a wall of beach sand, it does no good, wastes time and the sea washes it all away in the end.

12 The Left will play anything and everything for political gain. Since they believe that pining violence on the right will help them, they will not stop. There is only one real virtue to the Left, and it is gaining more power - so appealing to their better selves will not work.

13 If I want to think of political hate-speech, all I have to do is look at the PAUL WELLSTONE MEMORIAL-NUREMBERG RALLY of 2004:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJAcui_dmXk

14 krakatoa, good job.

"Fairness at all costs" like blaming the right wing as the most likely radical culprit...aced. This past decade's violent radicals keep expressing Leftist sentiments in the Bill Ayers tradition. Yet DHS Napolitano still has not retracted her opposite game smear on the "radical" conservative Americans who uphold rule of law and Constitutional Governance, instead piling on further each opportunity to distract the public.

"We could have had 31 more people shot," AZ Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said. -- as if disappointed it weren't worse? He left the crime scene 3 hours unsecured while notifying Obama who was deciding to send FBI Chief Mueller to oversee the corrupted scene, corrupted evidence and investigation. Way to go, authoritarian brown nose law enforcement that refuses to enforce the law, preferring policy that subjugates America and enables the Mexican drug cartels in and surrounding Tucson.

Hats off to the citizens who responded immediately to stop the murderous lunatic.

And again, RIP for those fallen and their families, with speedy recovery wishes for those injured.

Keep a level head, and demand the record intact, demand accountability, no revisionism for political convenience.

15

Next up?

There was a report last week that the Obama FCC was looking at creating an Internet security infrastructure, to give everyone an internet account, to "fight fraud"... taking away your anonymity.

This will now be pushed so they can more easily "track" what whackos like this guy say online.... to "connect the dots"...

Add it to the already started Gun Control Laws... more Hate Speech Legislation... and the FCC Net Neut stuff????

Their cry will be "Government MUST do somthing"... and Repubs may very well "cross the isle"... sadly....

 

16 Oh, and to follow up, that is why violent communists, Enviro-nuts, and the like will still be blamed on the right.

Most political people on both sides know it is BS, but the left isn't trying to convince people who follow politics closely - such are either part of the vanguard party or the enemy - they are trying to reach the people who specifically do not follow politics more then the occasional headline or tuning into the alphabets.

17 Well crap, I just tried to post a link to a YouTube video and was told I can't do it because the link is too long. If anyone is interested, just click on to my name and it will take you to my blog. On there, I have a YouTube video of a bunch of 9/11 Truthers protesting Gabrielle Giffords back in 2008. The point being, these loons would have been far more likely to influence Loughner than Sarah Palin or any other conservative or the Tea Party. Yet, you will wait in vain for the MSM or any of the usual leftist loons to talk about it, or any of the other leftists who criticized Giffords for not being progressive enough to suit them through the years.

The people on this video were royally pissed at Giffords for her support of the Iraq War funding, and because she refused to support Dennis Kucinich's efforts to impeach Bush and Cheney.

18 If anyone is interested, just click on to my name and it will take you to my blog

You can use tinyurl . com

You can usually fit in youtube videos though if you remove the link juice at the end of the url.

19 Someone should do something about all this media bias.

20 17 Use tinyurl (google it).

21 "You are good people. You are my friends & family. We break bread, we live and love, we celebrate and we mourn together. If I am not so evil a person to be a part of your daily life, how is it my ideological cohort must be?" No. This is wrong. They are not good people. Every time one of these scumbags enters a voting booth, the scumbag votes to use the coercive force of the government to steal what is mine for himself or for someone else that the scumbag deems more worthy of the fruits of my labor than I am. Mug me in an alley at gunpoint, or use the tax code to take my shit: Stealing is stealing. Good people do not steal. The reason why these fucking parasitic pieces of shit will lie out loud to paint one of theirs as one of mine is because they will grab anything they can bring to hand to shame anyone who dares to complain about the racket they are running into silence. There is no good on the left. They are all Jared Loughners.

22 If anyone is interested, just click on to my name and it will take you to my blog. On there, I have a YouTube video of a bunch of 9/11 Truthers protesting Gabrielle Giffords back in 2008.

I'm not seeing the video link on your blog.

23 Friggin' socks

24 Damn, the link above was to the wrong blog. Click on the link to this post and it will take you to my Blogger blog, where I have the video posted.

Well crap, I just tried to post a link to a YouTube video and was told I can't do it because the link is too long. If anyone is interested, just click on to my name and it will take you to my blog. On there, I have a YouTube video of a bunch of 9/11 Truthers protesting Gabrielle Giffords back in 2008. The point being, these loons would have been far more likely to influence Loughner than Sarah Palin or any other conservative or the Tea Party. Yet, you will wait in vain for the MSM or any of the usual leftist loons to talk about it, or any of the other leftists who criticized Giffords for not being progressive enough to suit them through the years.

The people on this video were royally pissed at Giffords for her support of the Iraq War funding, and because she refused to support Dennis Kucinich's efforts to impeach Bush and Cheney.

25 15

Next up?

There was a report last week that the Obama FCC was looking at creating an Internet security infrastructure, to give everyone an internet account, to "fight fraud"... taking away your anonymity.

This will now be pushed so they can more easily "track" what whackos like this guy say online.... to "connect the dots"...

Add it to the already started Gun Control Laws... more Hate Speech Legislation... and the FCC Net Neut stuff????

Their cry will be "Government MUST do somthing"... and Repubs may very well "cross the isle"... sadly....

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 10:12 AM (AdK6a)

 

There went my coffee. I don't feel so good now.

26

The left comes running out saying that the right radio hosts use "hate speak". Since I've been listening to them for years and actually think they are too kind, I'm curious about how they even come up with that shit. The left is the party of hate and anarchy and islamists and hippie freaks.

Re the MSM. Since I haven't watched them in 15 years I don't know who advertises with them. Sometimes I dvr stuff and skip the commericals. I cancelled the WashPo because I got tired of picking it up off the floor after I threw it.

27

Their cry will be "Government MUST do somthing"... and Repubs may very well "cross the isle"... sadly....

Well, I hope it's not Guam because it'll tip over.

28 Mug me in an alley at gunpoint, or use the tax code to take my shit: Stealing is stealing. Good people do not steal.

Actually, I would modify that a little bit.

We've got a government-media-education complex that both distracts people from where tax dollars come from, and convinces them that to the extent they come from real people it is bad, evil people who have it coming.

Consider the voter who thought Obama would be giving her money from "his stash". So sometimes good, though easily misled, people steal because the government has made it a very easy sin.

29 This insanity is only going to make us stronger.  And when the President lashes out at conservatives, along with every liberal and MSM pundit, we will gain strength.  Now is the time for the GOP leadership to come out swinging,uh no..hitting...uh no...smacking..geeze bad word too.  Dems are the only ones allowed to use words like that...what was I thinking.

30 Well said. Thank you.

I, for one, am getting pretty damned sick of being called a
1. racist
2. homophobe
3. neanderthal
4. moron (well, only when they call us morons)
5. etc..

just because I am conservative.  Let the idiots that run CNN and MSNBC take the libtards as their only viewing audience.  But, as said above, I will let them know loud and clear why I will never tune in their channels again.

31

Funny how the right is always blamed when it is the left who are actively inciting violence.  In fact, Frances Piven (of Cloward and Piven) advocated violence on 12/31/11.  Here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/2b3db43

32 The left comes running out saying that the right radio hosts use "hate speak". Since I've been listening to them for years and actually think they are too kind, I'm curious about how they even come up with that shit. The left is the party of hate and anarchy and islamists and hippie freaks.

Projection. Go to Kos or DU and you will see all sorts of honest to goodness hate speech. Since to the Left we are evil, we *must* be using even more violent speech.

33 Hey via gateway pundit comments Rep. Giffords webpage lists two subscribers one is classitup10, the shooters handle. Weird stuff..

34 The left comes running out saying that the right radio hosts use "hate speak". Since I've been listening to them for years and actually think they are too kind, I'm curious about how they even come up with that shit.

In the leftist mindset, conservative opinions are hateful. Therefore anything a conservative says, is, ipso facto, hate speech.

35 Repubs may very well "cross the isle"... sadly....

I will do so with tears in my eyes.

36

It's posts like this that inflame the heated hate filled rhetoric.

I blame the next shooting pre-emptively on the Republican attempt to repeal Obamacare. Don't these dirty rethuggliKKKans know that repealing laws favored by democrats is inciting domestic  terrorism?

37
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”

Our President.... June 2008.  Philly.

38

The Left doesn't have a better self to appeal to.

Once upon a time being a Democrat didn't mean being a Leftist.

"I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me."~Ronald Reagan

39

This is HUGE News!  Look at the details in the link:

The expenses for RomneyÂ’s trip are being paid with a blend of personal funds and contributions from the International Republican Institute and the American Israel Education Foundation.

The institute is a nonprofit, nonpartisan group focused on advancing freedom and democracy. McCain is chairman of its board

40 Shouldn't that list be bulleted , krakatoa?

41 The truth is hate speech to people who hate to admit the truth.

42 40 Shouldn't that list be bulleted , krakatoa?

That might be construed s a "threatening" list then.  Better that he not.

43 31

Funny how the right is always blamed when it is the left who are actively inciting violence.  In fact, Frances Piven (of Cloward and Piven) advocated violence on 12/31/11.  Here's the link:

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Finally! PROOF!!! that runningrn is a time traveler!

44

15 We have to stop that -- this is where we get ahold of those Republican representatives and senators and remind them of why they got voted in; remind them of that "piece of paper" they read just a few days ago; remind them that just as they were voted in, they can be voted out if they do not ensure the blessings of liberty and provide for the common good (and turning this country into a socialist/fascist mess will not provide for the common good as history has proven out).

Heck, remind what few remaining "blue dogs" (if there are any) too.

45 We are two nations sharing one land. It probably won't end well.

46 Great post.  I'll be sharing this one with a couple selected members of my family.

47 The MFM doesn't report news it pushes its political agenda. It doesn't care about facts, the facts only get in their way of the story they want to tell. They will lie and ignore the truth to get out their version of events to try to influence as many people to their point of view. They are beyond reprehensible and the sooner they go out of business the better off we'll be.

48 Commenter Dave Wyman at LA Times:

The level of willful blindness to the meaning of words and the facts of history is above flood tide. Hitler was a right-wing Christian. Often photographed in front of a church, his religious and political views were articulated in his diary entries.



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A photographer's dream.

49

Michelle Malkin, an illustrated and documented primer of progressive hate.

http://tinyurl.com/2aucavx

50

The doors on government, worldwide, are about to come off.

Ireland, Greece,  Portugal and Spain are all auctioning debt this week and the big purchaser, China, has seen her foreign income fall 50% year-on-year.

At year's end, the Fed was buying back, almost exclusively, the Treasury's November sales in POMO QE2 action.

Deep doo-doo.

51 If we are on the defensive about this it worries me, the good in me wants to say this man was just crazy lets all recognize that but the realist in me realizes the far left is going to try to use this to score political points.

I don't think we are on the defensive, and that's why I feel oddly good about what I have read about the media's behavior during this fiasco.  Good because the hypocrisy is so palpable that even the low information types will be hard put to miss it.  Yes, the lefties will continue to spout the line, but only the delusional can still believe it.  I am optimistic that bit by bit, we are seeing liberalism's edifice crumble.  There will be steady erosion of the base, followed by a catastrophic failure, when even the most committed will know that the jig is up.  We don't know when it will happen, so we must keep up the pressure, but it will happen. 

The left knows it.  That's why they actual, sitting Congressmen would even contemplate something so patently unconstitional as a bill calling for a ban on language that "could be perceived as inciting violence".  This is about as close to Stalinist language as I can imagine.  It's what you do when you are out of options, and the left now is. 

52

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 10, 2011 10:33 AM (kb0wl)

Lefties are either ignorantly blind or blindingly ignorant.  They have no knowledge of history and they constantly rewrite it to serve their mendacious purposes.  In short, they suck.

53 10 Apology to Afghan war vets from Sen. Linda Lopez coming in 3....2.....1......

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 10:11 AM (UOM4

54 unfortunately you can't explain the obvious.....the msm and the leftists are stuck on stupid

55 Yep, yay, well said.

This shit is going to backfire.  They don't understand that this just draws the wagons tighter around Palin, even among those who, as we've seen, don't necessarily like the woman, either personally or politically. 

56

Finally! PROOF!!! that runningrn is a time traveler!

 

Ha! Ha!  That's right--it's not looking pretty either.  Sorry about that, I meant 2010--I've been so conscious about writing 2011 on everything, I wrote 2011!

57 12/31/11.  Here's the link:

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Finally! PROOF!!! that runningrn is a time traveler!

Posted by: Anachronda at January 10, 2011 10:30 AM (6fER6)

Well done.... I read that and knew there was somthing wrong, but couldn't put my finger on it... LOL

58 #12.
18-1 You're right. Once a mind is given to authoritarianism and thrives on Alinsky methodology, where is that mind's "better nature"? The same problematic PC application of incorrectly applied "tolerance" is trying to convert the hearts and minds of the enemy resulting in Islamic democratic mob rule (ex: Iraq).

Matthew 7:6, above and beyond America's "better nature" desire to lead another to water as a good Samaritan would, what to anticipate from the rabidly dogmatic. Even Boy Scouts know to "Be Prepared". But PC dictates vulnerability.

We keep hearing the same messaging propaganda from the Left regardless of fact, regardless of record. Leftists usurp crises as opportunists revising and fabricating whole cloth record. Repeat a lie enough, ignore the truth, and "make" a corrupted record...old hat long ago.

Speaking of which, what choice "responsible" words has McCain's camp released alongside Kyl?

59
For anyone who thinks the MSM went all-in on Obama in '08, hold onto your seats because you ain't seen nothing yet!   The MSM know that the election in '12 is for all the marbles, even if most of the rest of the country doesn't comprehend that yet.  I'm pretty sure the Tea Party types do.  If Obama is reelected, then it is game over.  The progressives have finally reached the 51% solution, Obamacare will NEVER be repealed, and this country is, well, f*cked.  It will be over except for the waiting.  The great experiment called The United States of America will be headed for the dustbin of history.
That is why you are seeing this MSM frenzy to demonize, once again, Palin specifically, and by association, all things Tea Party, conservative, and Republican. Obama is in the dumpster poll-numbers wise, so, the effort to rehabilitate him and his numbers started the day after the '10 elections.  The MSM know that they only have 2 years to complete the turnaround and they will pull out all stops, and use every situation to pound the narrative that those opposing Obama are opposing reason, decency, mom and apple pie.  The conduct of the MSM between now and the elections in '12 will make their conduct in '08 look quaint.

60 This hateful rhetoric must stop if we are to have productive political discourse in this country. Also I hates me every iota of a cracka.

61 51, you are exactly right.  My sentiments precisely.  The timing of their eventual demise is essentially unknown, but I do believe it is within the next three years.

62 Glenn and Sarah emailed each other over the weekend... he told her to go to Gavin deBecker for protection for her and her family, as he fears that an attempt on her will boil over to nationwide violence. 

She responded, in part, "I hate violence.  I hate war.  Our children will not have peace if politicos just capitalize on this... thanks for all you do to send the message of peace and love, and God as the answer."

63 Posted by: runningrn at January 10, 2011 10:36 AM (ihSHD)

Left-life is a Discovery channel sitcom production where no one has boundaries or limits to their creative abilities,  no matter the cost as long as they ain't payin' it.

64 Come on, open your eyes!  Bush cut program x that would have helped this fine young man to get some help!  (this is what was one of the first comments in any story on Yahoo when Bush was president and anything bad happened including earthquakes)

65 Drudge has a link to Megyn Kelly interviewing that sheriff. That clown is a total left wing nut job too. That SOB is all about assigning a conservative political motive to the killings. He is not objective in any way shape or form.

66 O/t:  it seems that no matter what I'm reading ....a recipe, a garden blog, there is always a random post that appears saying something like "I'm glad Sarah Palin's political career is over".   It's a non sequetor in most instances as I don't read a lot of political stuff anywhere but here and a few other places.  So why in the midst of someone's discussion of tights is a post about Sarah Palin.  Have I missed something?

67 The Empire of the Left is desperate.

68 We are two nations sharing one land. It probably won't end well.

Posted by: ScottJ at January 10, 2011 10:32 AM (/bVuS)

Like Iraq. Shia, Sunnis and Kurds.

69 It's what you do when you are out of options, and the left now is.

It's also what you do when you have absolute power. Just sayin'.

70 In a few minutes, Osama Obama will "lead the nation in a moment of silence."

That's nice of him. Very Presidential. It's a major sacrifice, too. If there's anyone who would have difficulty keeping silent for even 10 seconds, it's the Mohammedan Mouthpiece.

Did he do that when a deranged Muzzie killed Americans at Fort Hood? Nope, he told us all not to rush to judgment on Hassan. Otherwise, he was too busy giving "shout-outs" to notice.

The Traitor-in-Chief is doing a fine job as the nation's Hypocrite-in-Chief, too.

71

This media bias issue is so simple. Old media knows it's demographics so they pander to tose that buy their stuff. Their business model is a failure leaving only the diehards as customers. Think about it, if you were an employee of one of these media companies and your livlihood depended on a certain ideology buying your stories and meme's to stay employed, what would you do? The answer is obvious, find another job, but maybe that has already happened, leaving only the koolaid crowd that is in denial over their failed or failing business model.

It's only a matter of time, this problem with our media is going to fix itself, unless the government intervenes. Hence, their support for Obama and the left.

There are two things taxpayers can do. One, do not financially support these entities and two, scream like crazy when the government proposes a bailout for ANY media outlet.

Patience people.

72 Conservative or liberal?

Only their hairdressers know for sure.

73 Agreed. Money is the only way to hurt them. You will probably have to suffer some pain yourself by giving up something you enjoy, of course. I try not to pay for any left-wing media. I try not go to any left-wing site and give them advertising money.  I'm not perfect. And sometimes they offer something so enticing I end up clicking/watching (there's a reason HuffPost offers celebrity gossip and bikini pics alongside their vile, screaming leftism.)

When Olbermann was on the NBC NFL show I refused to watch -- and I told NBC, politely, that I cannot watch their show while it features a spittle-flecked hate-monger like Olbermann who daily insults me, my family, and most of my friends.

I like watching the NFL, so there was some modicum of sacrifice.

The NYT still does put out some good pieces on business and international news. But I avoid it because I refuse to subsidize Krugman and the vile leftism the NYT routinely employs on their front page and opinion pages. NPR does some good radio pieces, but they so casually spew hate towards the right that I refuse to tune my radio to it. I grew up listening to NPR, so that was a hard habit to break.

I'm not perfect about this and this sacrifice isn't some great sacrifice on my part. It means I miss out on the latest George Clooney movie. He's a good actor, but a left-wing prick through-and-through.  I enjoyed Oceans 11, but that was before I knew what leftist asshole he was. Same with Matt Damon and the Bourne movies.

Now there are reasonable left-wing people and organizations who don't traffic in vile hatred of me and mine. I will, for example, read reports out of the Brookings Institution. Brookings is left-wing, but is usually dispassionate enough to make a calm, reasonable case for their point of view with data, logic, and reasoning and minimal invective.

In my mind there is a difference between leftist and left-wing. But once I believe an organization or individual cares more about demonizing me then making an evidence and reason based argument, then I just tune them out.

I'm torn about paying for cable TV - which I do. I'm glad to see money go to FoxNews, but I realize most of the entertainment industry is left-wing, so I'm probably subsidizing more left-wingers than right-winger by a large margin.

Remember most channels on your cable box get a  cut of your monthly cable bill. So, for example, if you have cable you are paying something (like 50 cents) to MSNBC and CNN even if you don't watch. Of course liberals who  have cable are paying FNC, so it works both ways.

74 Time to step up Starve the Beast efforts.   Drive them out of business sooner.

75 Practitioner of Religion of Peace slaughters 13 men and women serving their country under Commander-in-Chief Barrack Hussein Obama, and we get a "shout out" and told not to jump to conclusions regarding the killer's motive(s).  Did we have a moment of silence for those poor souls?

And Sen. Linda Lopez, Afghan war vets everywhere are waiting for an apology, you ..... nevermind.

76

All you deer hunters out there need to see this monster buck

 

http://tinyurl.com/6bv7yfp

77 What I really meant was, you never want to let an opportunity to dance go to waste.

78 via gatewaypundit

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”

Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”

Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”

Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“

Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”

Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”

Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”

Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

Rhetoric.

79 Help an old fart out. MSM = Main Stream Media
What does MFM mean?

80 MFM=mother effing media.

81

What I really meant was, you never want to let an opportunity to dance go to waste.

 

I'm absolutely tickled to death!

82 Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 10:53 AM (UOM4

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"WeÂ’re going to punish our enemies and weÂ’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,"

83 I'm trying to remember, did Obama have a nationwide moment of silence speech when Hassan gunned down all those soldiers at Ft Hood?

84 I've said it before, I'll say it again: Not one single conservative website should ever, under any circumstances, provide a direct link to a liberal news outlet.

DO NOT SEND THEM TRAFFIC!!

In this day and age, if your readers are A) stupid enough to think you make shit up unless you link to a source or B) are too stupid to do a google search to confirm if they doubt you, well, they really are stupid and you really don't want that kind of stupid on your website. They'll be more at home on the left anyway.

Stop linking to any MSM website--screen-capture or nothing!

85 Believe me, the Tucson shooting is the most joyous event for Liberals everywhere since the election of Obama.  "Communist Manifesto" fan and Daily Kos poster Laughner must be  their secret hero.   Look at what he has accomplished for the Progressive/Liberal/(whateverthebloodyhellthey'recalingthemselvesthisweek cause: (1) he has sidelined a "moderate" Democrat, one who, reportedly, blasphemously voted against Pelosi as speaker;  (2) he has given them the opportunity to accuse Sarah Palin of orchestrating the whole thing, and to allow them to righteously demand she quit public life; and (3) most importantly -- he has liquidated a white male conservative Federal judge, thus giving Obama an opportunity to nominate yet another commie who will twist the Constitution to the Party Line of the hour. 

The immediate, joyous piling on by the whole smelly contingent of them, from Obama on down, shows that that, whatever their accusations, Hate Speech is their specialty, and few conservatives can hope to match their skill.

86 Heck, remind what few remaining "blue dogs" (if there are any) too. -- Posted by: unknown jane

"Blue-Dog" "Former Republican" is Gabrielle Giffords' calling card. Coincidentally, after narrowly winning re-election, she voted against Pelosi.

The one's to benefit from this tragedy are on the Left, producing Fear amongst their own to remain with Pelosi/Reid/Obama. Fear can sway the blustering "moderate," "bipartisan," "reasonable," "centrist" politicians who don't care to officially honor distinctions between the US Constitutional Republic (propagandized as if "radical fringe") and the PC Federal Authoritarian State that promises "security" by delivering universal subjugation.

ex: Loughner's internet use will be used as convoluted fodder for further authoritarian federal supervision of all public/private means of communication.

87 "WeÂ’re going to punish our enemies and weÂ’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us," Posted by: BarryO Bomba at January 10, 2011 10:57 AM (kb0wl) Obama speak for reaching across the aisle? To me them there are fighting words.

88

One interesting thing coming out of this.. is the call for more Federal Laws to Protect Federal Employees (like Congresscritters).

One suggestion went so far as to make illegal any "incitefull" language used against a Federal Employee... making a Two Tier Legal system where Gov Workers are a MORE protected class, than us poor normal citizens.

HUGE Equal Protection Red Flag... yet they are seriously making this suggestion...

89

My wife and I personally de-funded these corporate big government enablers 10 years ago.

It's the only thing that will beat them.

It's the money. Shut it off.

Vim Toot!

90 I'm trying to remember, did Obama have a nationwide moment of silence speech when Hassan gunned down all those soldiers at Ft Hood?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2011 10:57 AM (TMB3S)

Yeah there was.  Google Ft. Hood moment of silence.  Flags at half-staff too.

91 The MSM are NOT biased!

They are doing their job...they are doing what they are paid to do.

They are leftwing political orgs, who hire only leftwing reporters to campaign against Republicans 24/7/365....for 30 years running.

This is a planned, coordinated, funded, scripted, political campaign.

92 83 I'm trying to remember, did Obama have a nationwide moment of silence speech when Hassan gunned down all those soldiers at Ft Hood?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2011 10:57 AM (TMB3S)

I was going to but I was too busy giving a shout out.

93 78 via gatewaypundit

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”

Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”

Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”

Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“

Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”

Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”

Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”

Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

This. is what Boehner needs to read at the reconvening of Congress.

94 I'm trying to remember, did Obama have a nationwide moment of silence speech when Hassan gunned down all those soldiers at Ft Hood?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2011 10:57 AM (TMB3S)

 

I seem to remember that Barry said we should rush to judgment and the worry of attacks on wonderful peace loving muzzies. I can't remember anything the douche said about those murdered

95 75 Practitioner of Religion of Peace slaughters 13 men and women serving their country under Commander-in-Chief Barrack Hussein Obama, and we get a "shout out" and told not to jump to conclusions regarding the killer's motive(s).  Did we have a moment of silence for those poor souls?

And Sen. Linda Lopez, Afghan war vets everywhere are waiting for an apology, you ..... nevermind.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 10:53 AM (UOM4

Ah... but the difference is easy to distinguish.

One set?  Military serving their country...

Other?  Part of the Protected Political Class... ie "one of their own".

96 sheesh--during the "moment of silence" radio hosts kept on blabbing...

97 >>Yeah there was. Google Ft. Hood moment of silence. Flags at half-staff too. Pretty sure that was a moment of silence ordered by the DOD and the Army. Obama had nothing to do with it.

98 96, yes. The one on my station went on like he was performing life saving brain surgery or something.

99 well we just had our moment of silence here at the Tucson  airport

100 Posted by: maverick muse at January 10, 2011 11:02 AM

I'll give Osama Obama a bit of credit (grudgingly): he came out and stood there, not saying a word.

Had to have been the hardest thing he's ever done.

101 Pretty sure that was a moment of silence ordered by the DOD and the Army. Obama had nothing to do with it. Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2011 11:03 AM (TMB3S) Well I hate Obama but: 1) he is the Commander in Chief 2) He was there

102

A moment of silence at military bases across the United States just took place. Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, directed a moment of silence throughout the Department of Defense

Would be interesting to see just what Barry was doing during the Moment of Silence.

103 Drudge linked the Fox-Sheriff Dumbfuck interview.  Good.  He needs to be the face of all this bullshit, disgusting hearse-chasing.

Just heard on the radio that "the shooter is not cooperating" and isn't talking to his office.  There:  The schitzo, insane shooter officially has a better grasp on how to conduct a criminal trial than THE SHERIFF.

104 A moment of silence at military bases across the United States just took place. Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, directed a moment of silence throughout the Department of Defense Would be interesting to see just what Barry was doing during the Moment of Silence. Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 11:04 AM (AdK6a) Well since it was just on TV, he stepped out of the White House and stood silent

105 Well since it was just on TV, he stepped out of the White House and stood silent

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 11:05 AM (0GFWk)

 

Thanks

 

106 Nine years ago I threw out my last television.  Never looked back.  Too many people in this nation are addicted, though.  Too many people, upon awakening in the morning, turn on their TVs to break the awful silence, and too many people do the same as soon as they walk in the door after work.  The television is the true "American idol."

Throw it away.  Cut the cable and just play games on it.  No more Hollywood films.  I mean, even without both of those, don't we already get enough Lib propaganda from every other direction as it is?  Even the backs of cereal boxes, the milk cartons your kids get at school, the godawful indoctrination at the schools themselves, the pop-stars, the FM radio talkers, billboards,  and much, much more?  You can do without TV and movies.  Those "hobbies" that most people can't seem to do without -- even those on the right, who KNOW -- are our nation's suicide.  TV and movies are hobbies like crack and heroin are hobbies.

107 Pretty sure that was a moment of silence ordered by the DOD and the Army. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2011 11:03 AM (TMB3S)

Congress and the DOD ordered a moment of silence.  I haven't found Obama specifically ordering it but I did find this from Fox news:

Obama ordered the flags at the White House and other federal buildings to be flown at half-staff until Veterans Day on Wednesday, in memory of those who were killed.

108
I'll give Osama Obama a bit of credit (grudgingly): he came out and stood there, not saying a word.

Had to have been the hardest thing he's ever done.

Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 10, 2011 11:04 AM (Ulu3i)

Its a big fucking deal.... and his teleprompter was blank.

109 Have you heard the interview of the parents of the murdered girl? Heartbreaking. They talked to Fox and sounded like they might be kind of conservative. They are religious, for personal freedoms...it appears they don't blame the "climate" at all.

110  he stepped out of the White House and stood silent

Present!

111 CNN got pwned live on-air by Neal Boortz.  He repeated the complete list of violent things Obama's said twice before the anchor-idiot could recover and end the segment.

112 @Tami -- here's a line from a newspaper account of the Ft Hood shooting:

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has declared a moment of silence for U.S. military forces worldwide as a show of respect for the Fort Hood victims.


Don't see anything about the Traitor-in-Chief there....

113 and his teleprompter was blank

*snick*

114 I'm listening to Beck (yeah, I know) and he's going after the sheriff.

115 114 and his teleprompter was blank

*snick*

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 11:08 AM (t+B3

The same was happening in his head.

116 Have you heard the interview of the parents of the murdered girl? Heartbreaking. They talked to Fox and sounded like they might be kind of conservative. They are religious, for personal freedoms...it appears they don't blame the "climate" at all. Posted by: PJ at January 10, 2011 11:07 AM (QdxaI) Well not that it matters but her grandfather is Dallas Green. Former manager of the Phillies, Mets, and Yankees. Her dad is a scout for the LA Dodgers.

117 We don't need a moment of silence.  We need a moment of getting down on our collective national knees and praying to the God of Israel for supplication and redemption, loudly and with much wailing.

Not kidding.

118 MFM=mother effing media.

Posted by: bobbo at January 10, 2011 10:56 AM 

Thanks bobbo!

119 Drudge linked the Fox-Sheriff Dumbfuck interview.  Good.  He needs to be the face of all this bullshit, disgusting hearse-chasing.

Just heard on the radio that "the shooter is not cooperating" and isn't talking to his office.  There:  The schitzo, insane shooter officially has a better grasp on how to conduct a criminal trial than THE SHERIFF.

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 11:05 AM (t+B3

 

The fuckwit sheriff admits there is a history of Loughner's obsession with Giffords going back to 2007 but insists it has to do with the current political climate and vitriol (meaning talk radio). The SOB obviously cannot be objective in this case or any case and needs to be removed from his position.

120 Obama speak for reaching across the aisle? To me them there are fighting words. Posted by: nevergiveup

"Come together" to the Left platform with Obama. Grain of salt after he goaded his fans to ignore law, promiscuously commit acts of violence without fear of legal prosecution, and to not only hate opponents as enemies but to initiate abuse and terrorism, to never waste a crisis.

121

A moment of silence at military bases across the United States just took place. Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, directed a moment of silence throughout the Department of Defense

Would be interesting to see just what Barry was doing during the Moment of Silence.

Finishing my waffle.

122 Whale Wars - lefty based assault reality show.

Where is the equivalent reality hate show for righties?

123 Posted by: Taqiyyotomist

Ok.. but I ain't giving up American Idol and Survivor!

124 69 It's what you do when you are out of options, and the left now is.

It's also what you do when you have absolute power. Just sayin'.

Good point, but as in most things, timing is everything.  The smart totalitarian on the rise waits to do this until he has secured power and the people have lost the will to resist.  If you show your hand too early, the people will still fight back, and you may lose.  The left showed its hand way too early.

125 The fuckwit sheriff admits there is a history of Loughner's obsession with Giffords going back to 2007 but insists it has to do with the current political climate and vitriol (meaning talk radio). The SOB obviously cannot be objective in this case or any case and needs to be removed from his position. Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2011 11:12 AM (1Jaio) Absolutely. The old fart is a disgrace

126 97

Oh, c'mon now.

These Drama Queens are entitled to their "Moment of Silence"

heh

127 118, I pray almost every day for Him to restore this country to her founding principles. Or if it is His will she falls then to give me more time to prepare.

128 120 Drudge linked the Fox-Sheriff Dumbfuck interview.  Good.  He needs to be the face of all this bullshit, disgusting hearse-chasing.

Just heard on the radio that "the shooter is not cooperating" and isn't talking to his office.  There:  The schitzo, insane shooter officially has a better grasp on how to conduct a criminal trial than THE SHERIFF.

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 11:05 AM (t+B3

If Tucson is the mecca of hate and bigotry.. why didnt  the good sheriff provide any protection for the congressman on Saturday?

Shouldnt he bare some blame? As the chief law officer of that area.. he of all people should have provided some sort of protection in that hot bed of hatred.... known as Tucson.

129 45 We are two nations sharing one land. It probably won't end well.

Posted by: ScottJ at January 10, 2011 10:32 AM (/bVuS)

 

Roger that.

130 Nice letter Krakatoa but most people are too comfortable being sheep. The faster they accept the MSM propaganda the faster they can get back to not giving a shit and watching Two and a Half Men. O/T: I'm moving Loughtner from my list of actual atheists to my list of people who claim to be atheist but secretly believe new age bullshit. Atheists don't have sacrificial alters. So far my list of actual atheists has nobody on it. I really loved when Dawkins said space aliens created life. It was a lovely leap of faith that was so illogical I laughed for days.

131 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 10:18 AM (xJVlJ)

So we should use Claymores against our political opponents?

Asshole.

132 That dipshit sheriff is the one dangling thread that can unravel the narrative into a giant shitstorm for the MFM. Loughner is on that sheriff's head. It was bad enough that Cho's mental illness was ignored by the system based on lefty notions of siding with anything twisted or abnormal, but Loughner was local law enforcement's problem before he committed this heinous crime. Did Loughner get a pass because of his mother's position with county government? If so, then what in the hell was Loughner trying to accomplish with his smokescreen? Was he trying to make civilization collapse? That sheriff is a lefty. That sheriff is very old. I bet that crooked geezer fuck was making a play at seeing it all burn in his deepest Ayersian fantasy rather than face what he will face when the investigation leads where it will lead.

133 Where is the equivalent reality hate show for righties?

American Loggers make Gaia cry.

134 TheQuietMan at January 10, 2011 11:12 AM
nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 11:14 AM

Pima County constituents need to come clean and renounce/replace their Sheriff. Bad record or not, he left this crime scene unsecured for THREE HOURS after the shooting spree. Completely unacceptable!

135 Posted by: Chicago Jedi at January 10, 2011 11:17 AM (6ftzF)

Dawkins is the worse atheist for intellectual hypocrisy. He disbelieves in God but creates god-like beings to explain things.

136 And then there was our esteemed Secretary of State stating that the Tucson shooting was due to "extremism" in the U.S.  She said this in Dubai, no less.  Well, it could have been Saudi Arabia, I suppose.

137 You ever notice that "journalists" pick up on one special word and use it to death?  This time it's vitriole.  Everybody who gets near a camera of computer uses that word.

138

It's quite likely that Sherrif is saying dumb things in an attempt to prevent anyone from asking questions about his failures Karl lists in this post: http://tinyurl.com/2gycdxj

 

139 "So we should use Claymores against our political opponents? "Asshole." Go fuck yourself, you lefty cocksucker.

140 134 Where is the equivalent reality hate show for righties?

American Loggers make Gaia cry.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 11:18 AM (S5YRY)

Ice Road Truckers.... it has it all... Big trucks spewing CO2 into the pristine wilderness, causing of course the Ice to melt... and the road itself defacing Gaia's sacred face...

Or Sarah Palin's America... note that every show has had lots of Gas Powered vehicles... airplanes, boats, trucks... taking them to despoil the land, and kill the innocent wildlife and fish...

141 he left this crime scene unsecured for THREE HOURS after the shooting spree. Completely unacceptable!

Posted by: maverick muse at January 10, 2011 11:18 AM (H+LJc)

What?!  I must not be understanding this correctly.  How was that even possible?

142 139

It's quite likely that Sherrif is saying dumb things in an attempt to prevent anyone from asking questions about his failures Karl lists in this post: http://tinyurl.com/2gycdxj

Posted by: ScottJ at January 10, 2011 11:20 AM (/bVuS)

Agreed, it's obvious the Sheriff is praying to the gods of the MFM to protect his old, hairy ass from investigating his faults.

143 Re Sheriff Dupnick:

I don't believe public servants are allowed to express political opinions under cover of their official position. I know that is true of federal employees, and I strongly suspect it is true for local people like Sheriffs.

I would like to see him answer one more question for Fox News: "Sheriff Dupnick isn't it against the law for you to express your private political opinions under cover of your official position?"




 

144

Ok.. but I ain't giving up American Idol and Survivor!

LOL- I'm with ya on Survivor, but could take or leave Idol.  I only have 3 or 4 shows I watch, and some Fox News, but I have even cut back on that because BOR pisses me off and Hannity bores me to tears.  Greta is still interesting to watch sometimes.

145
Well, well, well.  Very interesting.  Over at Gateway, they're saying the killer (I don't even like to type his name) admired.....

.....Hugo Chavez, Che Guevara, Saul Alinsky, and.....Barrack Obama.

146 FTL, shooter's mom works for county gov? Have linky for that?

147 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 11:20 AM (xJVlJ)

Explain your name. Then we can chat. But until you come up with a another explanation I will assume that you are suggesting that violence is appropriate for use on the left.

Asshole.

148

The response from our "lawmakers" is and has been consistent - pass more useless laws that restrict freedom and violate The Constitution instead of coming down like an anvil on the head of those putative agencies and the individuals in them that fail to do their jobs. When will we, the citizens of this nation, demand better? -- Karl Denninger

When will we, the citizens of this nation, demand better?

JUST SAY NOW.

149 LOL- I'm with ya on Survivor, but could take or leave Idol.

I cannot rid myself of my TV for the sole horror at the thought of losing Top Gear.

150 Just heard on the radio that "the shooter is not cooperating" and isn't talking to his office.  There:  The schitzo, insane shooter officially has a better grasp on how to conduct a criminal trial than THE SHERIFF.
Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 11:05 AM

The shooter is lawyering up -- oh excuse me, make that the "alleged shooter."

151 Claymores are defensive in nature.

Just sayin'

152 Dawkins is the worse atheist for intellectual hypocrisy. He disbelieves in God but creates god-like beings to explain things. Posted by: Holger at January 10, 2011 11:19 AM (YxGud) Actually, Dawkins argued that even if Aliens seeded Earth with life those Aliens themselves were the products of Evolution. Also, he pointed out the Panspermia argument simply walks genesis and evolution backwards in time and must hit a beginning somewhere. Dawkins did not say Aliens started life on Earth. Remember, evolution happens on living things. It is not an explanation for the generation of life.

153 I never drink more than one cup of coffee in the morning.  I'm on my second.  Getting ready for Rush.  Bring it, Rush baby!

154 Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 11:27 AM (S5YRY)

Right.

155 We are two nations sharing one land. It probably won't end well. Posted by: ScottJ at January 10, 2011 10:32 AM (/bVuS)

Yeah, tell me about it.

Wish we'd a won now?

156

Agreed, it's obvious the Sheriff is praying to the gods of the MFM to protect his old, hairy ass from investigating his faults.

Posted by: Dummy at January 10, 2011 11:23 AM (LdYLm)

 

That Sheriff's head looks to be so far up his ass it's amazing that he can still hold that position. Unless it's all politics

157 "Explain your name. Then we can chat. But until you come up with a another explanation I will assume that you are suggesting that violence is appropriate for use on the left. "Asshole." Go fuck yourself. I don't answer to you. Maybe you can explain why juxtaposing a marital aid with the name of a fictional elementary school kid doesn't make you a child rapist?

158 Hugo Chavez, Che Guevara, Saul Alinsky, and.....Barrack Obama.

Which one of these is not like the other?

159 Just kidding. It's a trick question!

160 “Love is a fragile flower opening to the first warmth of spring whose crimson petals are not as red as George Bush’s soiled and blood-soaked underwear.” - Sean Penn


----


‘You look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous.’ - Clarence Dupnick

161

My local talk radio guy is playing loony left diatribes villifying and demonizing the right who they say villify the left (which they don't they just point out their idiocy). Unfortunately since I don't listen to these asswipes, their idiocy is stunning. It's even worse than I thought. Ugh.

I think some people are right....they had this ready for when someone threatened Obama. They just pulled up the file.

162 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 11:20 AM (xJVlJ)

Explain your name. Then we can chat. But until you come up with a another explanation I will assume that you are suggesting that violence is appropriate for use on the left.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 10, 2011 11:26 AM (LH6ir)

If you can't tell the difference between a little harmless black humor in a blog handle and an incitement to violence, I think you've got the problem.  This smacks of over-reaction and the typical Republican tactic of retreating in the face of every hysterical accusation made by the Left. 

163 "FTL, shooter's mom works for county gov? Have linky for that?" It was in the DHS memo that got leaked. Here's the copy on GretaWire: http://tinyurl.com/38d2r82

164 @161
Is that a real SP quote?  I suppose it's telling that it is so believable coming from that fount of stupid.

165  Shouldn't that list be bulleted , krakatoa?

That might be construed s a "threatening" list then.  Better that he not.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2011 10:30 AM (9hSKh)

 

If that's what you really think, Kratos, then you're falling right into line with what they want us to do.  This is what PC has done to us.  This is another all-out assault on free speech.  Personally, I don't give a flying shit anymore about what these leftard/statist minded fuckwads think of me.  If I say something that offends them (and that's really what it comes down to) then they can follow my detailed intstructions and drive their car over a cliff.

 

166 Tami at January 10, 2011 11:22 AM
That was the Arizona sourced news at the 3 hour mark after the shooting spree. The Sheriff "secured" the sight 3 hours after the fact at which point no ammo or shells were found. And by that point, Obama was announcing that he'd ordered the FBI Chief Mueller en route to oversee the investigation (that the Sheriff so horribly officially botched).

btw, The Federal Public Defender's Office in Phoenix has recommended that San Diego attorney Judy Clarke take Loughner's case.
Pro bono? Or taxpayer funded high-powered defense attorney who represented the "Unabomber," the Atlanta Olympics bomber and Susan Smith, the South Carolina woman who drowned her two children by driving her car into a lake.

Besides, the Federal Public Defender's Office in any city doesn't have its own local pool of defense attorneys?

167 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 11:31 AM (xJVlJ)

A dildo isn't a "marital aid;" it is a device used by women (and, I guess, some men) with which to masturbate. I'm not sure where you get "child rapist," but as I said, you're an asshole, so it probably wasn't too much of a stretch.

Your nickname is a clear indication of violence against the left. How else should it be interpreted? My political discourse, and the discourse that this country defends vigorously, is peaceful. Any suggestion that Claymores are a better choice than words makes you an asshole.

168 165 -

She was also opposite this groupÂ’s ideology when it came to immigration debate.* DHS have a list of names and dates of birth of all victims.* the ACTIC SPLC is still playing a major role in the investigation...
Memo fixed...

169 Beck is slicing and dicing-- went  through the whole show and is now asking, "Have you heard me blame this asshole on Cloward-Pivin despite their ACTUAL violent rhetoric?"

170 btw, this raises another issue.  50 years ago, someone like Loughner would have been in an institution.  But the left knew better, and decided such people should be out on the street.  Now we are overrun with beggars and people defecating on sidewalks, and one of them periodically snaps and shoots up the place.  This helps neither society nor the mentally ill.  The media, were they doing their job, would make the left own this problem, but of course, nobody is held to account.  Well, except for the evil Tea Partiers, who don't care about the homeless. 

171 Posted by: Reactionary at January 10, 2011 11:33 AM (xUM1Q)

Well done!

172 Posted by: pep at January 10, 2011 11:34 AM (P18+/)

Yup, real.

173 "My political discourse, and the discourse that this country defends vigorously, is peaceful. Any suggestion that Claymores are a better choice than words makes you an asshole." You don't like violence. I don't like child molesters. We're even.

174

Hmmm.... neurons firing...

Is this just a further case of the Lefts attempt to stop any discussion, while condoning the thought process...

If we can't even talk about evil, we cannot confront it.

When one of the more popular shows on TV rewards people for lieing and cheating (Survivor)... when Michael Vick, a felon who tortured animals is not only allowed back into society, but given validation by the US President...

Yet we are not supposed to now even call the Socialists, Socialists?

175 If we can't even talk about evil, we cannot confront it.

Romeo13

That's the point.

176 The Sheriff "secured" the sight 3 hours after the fact

Congratulations, asshole, on awarding the shooter his technicality.  Unbelievable.

177 Sad to say, but it is working, and it continues.  They just cannot stop themselves from blaming the "vitriolic rhetoric."  The great unthinking center will be nodding their heads in agreement.

The voters.  The unaffiliated, those who don't really pay attention, who are tuned more in to DWTS than any news outlet, who don't read columns, who sleep while Meet The Press airs, they will be getting this meme by osmosis, and will believe.

178 I am looking forward to Rush today.

I started listening to Beck this morning.  Ugh. had to turn him off. 

179 167  Shouldn't that list be bulleted , krakatoa?

That might be construed s a "threatening" list then.  Better that he not.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2011 10:30 AM (9hSKh)

 

If that's what you really think, Kratos, then you're falling right into line with what they want us to do.  This is what PC has done to us.  This is another all-out assault on free speech.  Personally, I don't give a flying shit anymore about what these leftard/statist minded fuckwads think of me.  If I say something that offends them (and that's really what it comes down to) then they can follow my detailed intstructions and drive their car over a cliff.

 

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 11:36 AM (B1tDt)

Soona, I think you /snark detection software needs updating...

180 My political discourse, and the discourse that this country defends vigorously, is peaceful. Any suggestion that Claymores are a better choice than words makes you an asshole.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 10, 2011 11:38 AM (LH6ir)

Hmmm.... really???

181

Congratulations, asshole, on awarding the shooter his technicality.  Unbelievable.

Think of what his statements will do for both the prosecution AND defense.

182 Well, well, well.  Very interesting.  Over at Gateway, they're saying the killer (I don't even like to type his name) admired.....

.....Hugo Chavez, Che Guevara, Saul Alinsky, and.....Barrack Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 11:24 AM (UOM4

 

If this is really true and it starts to be broadcast by cable news and the internet, and becomes established knowledge by enough people, the MFM will drop this story like, well, yesterday's news.

183

Carolyn McCarthy is already preparing gun-control legislation in reaction to this.

That would be akin to attempting to re-instate prohibition had this mayhem been committed by a drunk driver.

184 I remember when the MSM used to love me, and tell stories that included me in their papers. Now they just ignore me and leave me out all together. I'm just glad Fox News gives me a little airtime, or I might jump off a bridge.

185 That list of Loughner's heroes may be a hoax...

186

Posted by: ScottJ at January 10, 2011 11:20 AM (/bVuS)

Interesting link, but as of now there's no proof the shooter made previous threats. In fact, this is the first time I've heard this allegation.

187 Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 10, 2011 11:45 AM (AdK6a)

I see your point, but we fought to create this system. Jefferson certainly wouldn't advocate violence against political rivals.

188 188, Karl D. isn't known for just making stuff up. He tends to research his assertions very well.

189 146
Well, well, well.  Very interesting.  Over at Gateway, they're saying the killer (I don't even like to type his name) admired.....

.....Hugo Chavez, Che Guevara, Saul Alinsky, and.....Barrack Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 11:24 AM (UOM4

According to a few of the comments on that blog, this might be a faked Facebook page. The perps last name is not spelled correctly.

190

Soona, I think you /snark detection software needs updating...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 11:42 AM (AdK6a)

 

I was hoping that it was, but one can't be sure sometimes.  It's sad.

191 The Sheriff "secured" the sight 3 hours after the fact

"Congratulations, asshole, on awarding the shooter his technicality.  Unbelievable." @ 11:41

Yes. Note well the Sheriff's consistency, erring on the side of enabling murder and mayhem. His enabling of the Mexican Drug Cartel fortresses outside town and encouraging illegal border traffic is long established record. Now he failed to attempt preventive measures on Giffords behalf. He failed at the moment to be at Giffords side to protect her, knowing full well that the murderer threatened her already on many occasions. And he failed to secure the scene ASAP, for three hours after the shooting, even while the White House communicated that Obama ordered FBI Chief Mueller to the scene. Pathetic and completely unacceptable.

192 Posted by: jewells45

Yeah.. can't wait til the new season starts on Survivor next week..

As far as Idol goes.. I love the goofy auditions.. the crappier, the better.  But, I am sure I will be less thrilled with Simon gone..   (Also.. I am a singer.. so, i get really interested in the singing talent/song choices as the season goes on...)  Try tuning into the first few episodes for the auditions.. bet you'll get hooked!

193 That list of Loughner's heroes may be a hoax...

Posted by: Gran at January 10, 2011 11:49 AM (kmmbv)

I saw the link to the Examiner story where this came from earlier today.  I followed the link to a thread at FR.  The topic of the thread only included the books he had read.  It was in the comment section that someone said they saw his Facebook page and it listed those people.  Someone else in the thread questioned the accuracy of that really being his FB page. 

I'm surprised....kinda shoddy reporting by the Examiner.

194 Remember the Reichstag, because the Left always uses that tactic.

195

86  Oh yes, that was the first thing on my mind when it came out (almost immediately) that she was a "blue dog" -- it's a "get your butt on the reservation" moment for the left just as much if not moreso than an opportunity to attack the right.

I'm glad to see that people are not taking this steamrolling lying down -- I'm hoping the little schemes and machinations backfire; I really am.

196

Dancing in the victims' blood - a lefty tribal rite.

Conservatives come out and express sympathy for the victims and their families and ask for prayers for them and offer any aid they can in their time of need.

Libtards come out and start screeching about right-wing hate speech, right-wing bigotry, etc., etc., and then immediately reaching into their sack of blackness and drawing out legislation to take away more of the citizens' freedoms "for their safety"... and lefty power over the citizens.

Any questions?

197 188 Interesting link, but as of now there's no proof the shooter made previous threats. In fact, this is the first time I've heard this allegation.
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I didn't follow ScottJ's link (and so am not entirely certain what it's about), but the sheriff said on Fox News that he had made threats against other folks. He refused to say against whom, although he did say they weren't against Giffords.

198 Posted by: Holger at January 10, 2011 11:19 AM (YxGud) Yeah he seems more anti-Christian in agenda than anything else. Actually, Dawkins argued that even if Aliens seeded Earth with life those Aliens themselves were the products of Evolution. Also, he pointed out the Panspermia argument simply walks genesis and evolution backwards in time and must hit a beginning somewhere. Dawkins did not say Aliens started life on Earth. Remember, evolution happens on living things. It is not an explanation for the generation of life. Posted by: eman at January 10, 2011 11:28 AM (0aJSF) Go watch Expelled with Ben Stein. Dawkins just lays it out there. Aliens created life on the planet. And you are correct evolution does not explain the origins of life. Yet that doesn't stop evolutionary theorists like Dawkins and Darwin from claiming it does.

199 Rush  is on.  "Where are the parents?"

200 Sheriff Dupnick talked about how the Arizona legislature was considering allowing college profs and students to be armed and how bad that was.

When the Virginia Tech shooting occurred my father - who went to college in Montana in the 1940's said: "That never would have happened when I was in school; everyone had deer rifles in their dorm rooms, somebody would have shot back."

School teachers and students in Arizona used to carry guns, until people like Sheriff Dupnick took them away from them. The one place a murderer never has to worry about somebody shooting back is a liberal "gun free zone" since the law abiding people are guaranteed to be disarmed .

Liberals - making the world safer for psychopaths every day.

201

172 btw, this raises another issue.  50 years ago, someone like Loughner would have been in an institution.  But the left knew better, and decided such people should be out on the street.  Now we are overrun with beggars and people defecating on sidewalks, and one of them periodically snaps and shoots up the place.  This helps neither society nor the mentally ill.  The media, were they doing their job, would make the left own this problem, but of course, nobody is held to account.  Well, except for the evil Tea Partiers, who don't care about the homeless. 

The issue with homeless is multi-level.  They have to commit a crime to be arrested and show signs of mental illness to be admitted.  Sometimes it's not that clear.   Most of our admits who are long term homeless have poly-dx-- MR/DD, substance abuse, mental illness and of course personality disorders. 

Most of them are pretty helpless and not dangerous.  Most of them are extremely pitiful and make you grateful for every little thing you  have.  The new mandates from the state are that they can't be released back into a shelter or on the street (at one time, we actually had to do that after they were on their meds and stable--- with the attitude of "Well, now they're 'fixed' they can get their lives together").    The problem is that they have no family or have burnt their bridges with the family that is left.

Plus there is a shortage of group homes, 'works' homes, assisted living units, nursing home beds (yes, some of them are THAT demented) etc that they can be placed in.... so it's bottle necking.    So the now that there is a demand, the supply side is kicking in. 

As for Jared, he should have been committed and treated long ago.  He made verbal threats of harm towards others.... in this state, a quck ticket to admissions.   He was clearly delusional, paranoid, and worst of all, aggressively acting out his thoughts.  Someone dropped the ball or the AZ is lax about this. 

202 Yahoo needs to go out of business ASAP. Its "news" is further to the left than the Daily Kos

203

ipso facto

I take that personally.

204 As may have already been pointed out, there is another solution to all of this- hit the networks where it hurts.

Contact their advertisers and say you will not buy their product until they stop advertising on X.  Advertisers will indeed listen to these sort of things, and if a boycott happens, well, that will make the networks very unhappy.

Because television especially does not exist to carry programming. It exists to sell advertising, and the programming is what they use to fill up the time between ads.

205 I would love to see the Greene family ban the media and politicians from the funeral. Anyone who would politicize their grief has no business being there--none. It would cool to see the jug-eared jackass refused admission.

206 BTW what is this "moment of silence" BS? When did that start and replace moment of prayer?

207 Yeah, Open blogger. Nice job.

208 You don't honestly think this will do any good, do you?

209

172 up above has it.  For this and Virginia Tech the media should be hosting a public debate over the closing of mental hospitals and making it more difficult for someone to get committed (they pretty much have to get them to volunteer).

In essence, we closed down a bunch of hospitals that were more warehouse than hospital.  The 'stock' in those warehouses are now amongst us.  Lots of the previously warehoused folks don't bother anyone and live productive lives.  Others are 'street crazies' and others are somewhere in between.  Every so often one of these folks that would have previously been warehoused kills.  So we trade as a society some security so that those with most mental illnesses have the chance to live productive lives.

I believe we chose right.  When I see a homeless person talking to himself I feel bad for his circumstances but I would not want to see him in some institution, stacked up like cord wood.  Living on the streets with a mental illness is no picnic but better than being throwin into the equivalent of jail.

 

 

210

Is it me or has the media gotten much more blatantly bias the last 2-3 years.  I actually thought the media coverage for both Bush elections were very fair. Yes, there was Dan Rather and the New York Times, but otherwise I can't recall any truely unfair coverage in either election. I am sure there was some, but I can't remember it, so how bad could it have been. But something began happening after Hurricane Katrina. That in combination with the Iraq war going south changed the coverage in media. Bush-Cheney could do no right. However, it was still gradual and mostly about the administration.

Then came the scandals in the Republican side of congress in 2006 and the media coverage and results that followed and it was like the media had an epiphany sometime between the 2006 elections and 2008. Stop worrying about truth and start propagandizing. I remember  Bob Schieffer in a television interview basically admit they were going to do "liberal" coverage and saying if you didn't like it you could find conservative coverage elswhere. I was shocked at the admission.

First they protected and propped up Obama.  Then came the moment on the morning of September 1st 2008, when the entire media came out of the closet and stopped caring whether people even noticed if they were bias or not. That was when, even though a major hurricane was hitting the American coast line, they ALL had to instead talk about what a bad mother Sarah Palin was. And ever since, they haven't cared about anything accept pushing their agenda. When I say they, I mean everything from Good Morning America to Entertainment Tonight. From the nightly comedy talk shows to network news coverage. From news magazines to news papers. ALL.

The mainstream media has become an overt propaganda machine. How any conservative would ever even go to journalism school is beyond me. Its hopeless. Journalism used to be the fourth branch of government. A watch dog of the powerful. Now it is simply a guard dog of the liberal-socialist agenda and a lap dog to Obama. Its voluntary Pravda. The coverage of this tradegy is just another example of whats going on in the media. Journalism has died.

I don't hate President Obama. Nor do I hate Nancy Pelosi or any other Democrat. They are simply politicians doing what they can to push their agenda. In some ways, thats their job. However, I despise most in the media. Even likable people like Jay Leno and Jimmy Fallon. And they are the least of the night time propagandists.

All of this coming from someone who watched Hardball with Chris Mathews religiously for 15 years and thought he was fair up until the last few years.

211 Hey, conservatives are just the new Jews as far as the left is concerned.  Blame 'em for everything.

212 Two easy ways you can tell if a news media is liberal or neutral in reporting stories:

(1)  If a politician is accused or charged with a crime and they tell you right off it is a republican.  If it is a democrat they don't mention it, or it is mentioned at the end of the story.

(2)  If they call the USA a democracy.  If they called it the republic that it is, that would remind us of republicans, and they don't want that, so they call it a democracy to remind us of democrats.

If you want to help the cause of freedom, call the USA the republic that it is and ask the propaganda media to do the same.  I was at a Tea Party protest in Washington DC one time and talked with a teenage boy.  I told him that the USA was not a democracy, it is a republic.  He looked at me and asked, "What's a republic?"

I wrote to many propaganda media and asked them why they call the USA a democracy and haven't gotten an answer from any of them.  Try it yourself with your local radio and TV stations and see if you get an answer.