January 21, 2011
— Geoff
| Remembering back to all their previous encounters, where President Obama displayed all the spine of a Democratic planarian, I really haven't expected much from him on the foreign policy front. In particular, I imagined that he'd continue to be pushed around by the Chinese, who have been using North Korea as a distraction from their own activities. This President has always valued his verbiage too highly, and his confidence in using it to achieve foreign policy goals has been completely misplaced. So I must say that this was completely unexpected, and very, very welcome (if true): |  |
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The New York Times said Obama warned his Chinese counterpart that if Beijing did not step up pressure on North Korea, Washington would redeploy its forces in Asia to protect itself from a potential North Korean strike on U.S. soil. | |
Wow - the old iron fist in a velvet glove. I expected the velvet glove, but the iron fist? Quite a pleasant surprise.
The Chinese reaction so far has been exactly what you'd expect - vague threats to test our resolve:
Wang Dong of Peking University's School of International Studies said Washington's reported warning to Beijing was a slap in the face for the Chinese leader, who has urged the two Koreas to resolve their differences through dialogue.Exactly, friend Wang: walk a little more softly, because the danger of war can never be dismissed."Playing tough like this, it might just backfire, I'm afraid," Wang said. "If this article represents the real thinking by American leaders, the danger of war on the peninsula can never be dismissed."
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Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 03:54 AM (02uN6)
First? If so, that's a first for me, I'm usually way late.
Anyway, I'm going to take the high road here and give credit when the opposition does something that seems right.
I remember just before he left office, W told some of his friends that when the new President got a serious look at the reality of the international situation, he would be forced to adopt many of the policies that had been put in place during the Bush years.
Some of it may be political, but there is some hope that Obama may, just may be "growing" in office a bit, at least with respect to international politics, what he can realistically hope to accomplish, etc.
Posted by: RM at January 21, 2011 03:55 AM (GkYyh)
Posted by: Wang Chung at January 21, 2011 03:57 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Al Czervik at January 21, 2011 03:58 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: President Obumbles at January 21, 2011 03:59 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Jenna Jameson at January 21, 2011 04:02 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Oregon Is Dumber Than Dirt at January 21, 2011 04:02 AM (Hu/Da)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 21, 2011 04:03 AM (zgZzy)
Too convenient for President Present, having the NYT filling in discarded leadership opportunity blanks with what Americans' expect of a potus. Presto! He's on "record" for future reference as having taken a tough stand.
Posted by: Why Me? at January 21, 2011 04:16 AM (H+LJc)
Too convenient for President Present, having the NYT filling in discarded leadership opportunity blanks with what Americans' expect of a potus.
Yeah, that's why I included "if true" in the post.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 04:18 AM (1DvsG)
"If this article represents the real thinking by American leaders, the danger of war on the peninsula can never be dismissed."
There used to be another threat to peace on the Korean peninsula...right on the tip of my tongue....just can't remember what it was. It was like this intro polisci course on international relations....I hate it when I can't remember things. It's like every time on Jeopardy when the quesiton is about a Finnish composer and I can never remember the guy's name and there's only so many Finnish composers, right?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 21, 2011 04:19 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: joncelli at January 21, 2011 04:19 AM (MLQL2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 04:20 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Winston Wolf at January 21, 2011 04:22 AM (LH6ir)
Wang Dong???
I met a guy a few years back named Dick Koch...and he didn't pronounce it as "Cook" either..or "Kotch"
The big announcement today is that Ebola named Jeffrey Immelt as head of his Economic Recovery Board . The plan is to double exports over the next five years.
Really??
The piece of shit $400 GE microwave that I replaced last month exactly six days after the warranty was up was made in Korea..and the GE lightbulb I screwed in this morning had "Hecho en Mexico" stamped on it
Posted by: beedubya at January 21, 2011 04:28 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 04:31 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 21, 2011 04:34 AM (FkKjr)
I've always known the NYT was creative but how in the world did they get THAT from what Obama really said, " Wah, make NK play nice or I won't borrow any more money from you".
I make it a point never to believe anything the NYT says and that goes double when they talk about the Won's wonderfulness.
Posted by: BarbaraS at January 21, 2011 04:36 AM (Cck3x)
Uh....didn't we just borrow a whole bunch of money from the Chicoms?
What if this loss of face forces them to call in their chits?
Posted by: Lurkin'no'mo at January 21, 2011 04:37 AM (6zvrq)
Posted by: John Galt at January 21, 2011 04:37 AM (80GjT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 04:37 AM (tJjm/)
Yes, I heard Obama say "I told Hu, I said that we..." at the press conference. I also saw Hu tell us to mind our own business and IGNORE Obama while he spoke.
And I noted that Hu did not dress up for the State Dinner, and he was 20 minutes late.
The NYT has belatedly realized that dining with a dictator doesn't look good, so they are fabricating an imaginary tough stance which the Chinese will read and laugh at.
I did not fall off the turnip truck last night.
Posted by: Miss Marple who has a science degree and is getting quite aggravated at January 21, 2011 04:38 AM (Fo83G)
Is there an Austen Powers film festival running around here?
Posted by: ya2daup at January 21, 2011 04:41 AM (yRrAd)
Posted by: beedubya at January 21, 2011 08:28 AM (AnTyA)
GE is dead to me. Go thou and do likewise.
Posted by: ya2daup at January 21, 2011 04:43 AM (yRrAd)
I am not going to give him ANY credit until he actually does something. Keep in mind that this is nothing more than Obama rhetoric. His rhetoric is notoriously unreliable.
He is now in the middle of a campaign to make it look like he is moving more toward the center. As always with this asshole you must watch what he does and disregard what he says.
Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2011 04:44 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2011 04:48 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Miss Marple who has a science degree and is getting quite aggravated at January 21, 2011 04:49 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: curious at January 21, 2011 04:49 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Fritz at January 21, 2011 04:50 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at January 21, 2011 04:51 AM (oFjGu)
Posted by: Tigtog at January 21, 2011 04:51 AM (Q5+Og)
One thing I do know (and remember from the Carter years). Obama can do all of this stuff and make speeches, etc. BUT if gas goes up to $5.00 and food prices continue to rise and jobs are still in the tank, he will not get the votes from a large chunk of the electorate.
It will be like when I switched and voted for Reagan. I remember thinking "Reagan cannot possibly do any worse and at least he won't be embarrassing."The misery index is on the rise, and the New York Times and their allies cannot lower the price of hamburger, orange juice and bread.
Posted by: Miss Marple who has a science degree and is getting quite aggravated at January 21, 2011 04:55 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 21, 2011 04:56 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Dick P.Enis at January 21, 2011 05:06 AM (ICwOo)
Posted by: Miss Marple who has a science degree and is getting quite aggravated at January 21, 2011 05:07 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 05:09 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Chester T.T. Breast at January 21, 2011 05:10 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Barry Soetoro at January 21, 2011 05:14 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Jack Burton at January 21, 2011 05:14 AM (NS2Mo)
I have nothing to add about this story, but there's not Headlines thread so...
Posted by: Y-not is happy it's Friday at January 21, 2011 05:15 AM (pW2o8)
Geoff feels obligated to praise Obama simply for not formally surrendering to China upon request.
More like I feel that it's in our best interests to praise him when he seems to do well. It may be hopeless, but without some encouragement/approval from our side, he'll never improve. At least this way I can honestly say that I gave him every chance.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 05:18 AM (1DvsG)
One of my hubby's favorite movies.
My absolute favorite movie. My avatar at WordPress is Egg Chen.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 05:19 AM (1DvsG)
Well...this is a shocker...Ebola lied about the Boeing deal with China
Posted by: beedubya at January 21, 2011 05:22 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: mare at January 21, 2011 05:23 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: moi at January 21, 2011 05:25 AM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: mare at January 21, 2011 05:25 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 21, 2011 05:26 AM (xdHzq)
Posted by: mare at January 21, 2011 05:28 AM (A98Xu)
The media will fight all our future wars, keep us safe and save the planet.
Posted by: melvin at January 21, 2011 05:28 AM (3OCZw)
Obama is trying on the guise of a tough-guy, for re-electability purposes obviously. But in this case, he's only a sheep in wolf's clothing.
The danger with Obama's new approach is that he may misjudge a foreign-policy situation and cause it to spiral out of control. The Cuban Missile crisis occurred (and WWIII almost initiated) because Khrushchev perceived JFK as weak and decided to up the ante by placing nukes in Cuba.
One of Sun Tzu's adages is that "when weak, appear strong". However, the Chi-Coms are great students of Sun Tzu and will see through this charade.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 21, 2011 05:30 AM (9hSKh)
I can't resist a Jack Burton comment anytime there's someone named Wang involved."Okay. You people sit tight, hold the fort and keep the home fires burning. And if we're not back by dawn... call the president."
Posted by: grognard at January 21, 2011 05:31 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: Sue E. Chop at January 21, 2011 05:31 AM (xdHzq)
the danger of war on the peninsula can never be dismissed
As long as the NorKs are hell bent on provocation, this is very true friend Wong.
Let's see, in the last 6 months the NorKs sank a South Korean warship and shelled a South Korean island resulting in many deaths. And that's just the top two. Any where else, those are considered acts of war. Just sayin', friend Wong.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 21, 2011 05:32 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Al Czervik at January 21, 2011 05:32 AM (NS2Mo)
Doing one thing right (maybe) doesn't a presidency make.
But it's still better than not doing anything right. Look, if the story is true, and if the President sticks to his guns (which he won't do w/o popular support, so get your pom poms in the air), then this was a great move. If he's all talk, then at least his talk has gotten tougher. No more "mutual interests" BS - let's get down to "pony up some regional stability or we'll do it for you."
I don't disagree that it's likely to be just more fluff, but that doesn't mean it isn't an improvement.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 05:33 AM (1DvsG)
Do you believe Barry on this, or on cutting back regulations, or on supporting free markets? If so, I've got a bridge you can buy, real cheap.
I see, by the way, that GE's chairman has been named to head Barry's council on job creation. The fact that GE's subsidiary MS-NBC is Barry's biggest cheerleader had absolutely nothing to do with that decision, of course.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 21, 2011 05:33 AM (VrNoa)
Posted by: moi at January 21, 2011 05:34 AM (Ez4Ql)
Posted by: Brown Line at January 21, 2011 09:33 AM (VrNoa)
Well they aren't owned by GE anymore as of yesterday the know they are going to be working for comcast and there was a lot more said about GE since now GE won't be signing their paychecks.
Posted by: curious at January 21, 2011 05:36 AM (p302b)
I see, by the way, that GE's chairman has been named to head Barry's council on job creation. The fact that GE's subsidiary MS-NBC is Barry's biggest cheerleader had absolutely nothing to do with that decision, of course.
GE : Obama
Krupp : Kaiser Wilhelm
Posted by: Ben at January 21, 2011 05:38 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 05:39 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 21, 2011 05:42 AM (zqzYV)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 21, 2011 05:44 AM (8lCJT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 05:46 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 05:48 AM (02uN6)
And yes, the twerps at the NYT are all laughing their heads off at the though of all us rubes thinking that "Dong Wang" is a real name...
Maybe "Barack Obama" translates to "desiccated testes" in Mandarin.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 21, 2011 05:48 AM (8lCJT)
Does anyone else see a problem here?
The DNC writing division, AKA, NY Times, makes a statement, totally not backed by any facts, to help "The One" look strong before the State of the Union address.
Rubes buy it. Isn't "The One" wonderful?
Posted by: Kemp at January 21, 2011 05:49 AM (JpFM9)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 21, 2011 05:50 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 05:52 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: mare at January 21, 2011 05:53 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 21, 2011 05:54 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 05:54 AM (tJjm/)
The One always had a spine but he would never use it to defend freedom.
"The New York Times said Obama warned his Chinese counterpart that if Beijing did not step up pressure on North Korea, Washington would redeploy its forces in Asia to protect itself from a potential North Korean strike on U.S. soil."
Did the Norks come up with a much longer range missile than they've got?
In which case, hadn't he better restore funding to the ABM system he is in the process of dismantling?
And, BTW, thank you Bush for building the only ABM system this country ever had.
All this tough talk makes me wonder what kind of a concession he's compensating for.
If I were Taiwan, I'd be worried.
Posted by: RayJ at January 21, 2011 05:54 AM (2oRAd)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 05:55 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: unknown jane at January 21, 2011 05:55 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 05:58 AM (02uN6)
More like I feel that it's in our best interests to praise him when he seems to do well.
You were serious? I thought this was a bit tongue-in-cheek ... I guess we say "snarky" these days.
It may be hopeless, but without some encouragement/approval from our side, he'll never improve.
Geoff, this is the way Westerners treat the arabs. But the arabs never improve. In fact, they move in the opposite direction. You can't put Western thoughts and reactions into middle eastern personalities and it is just as errant to try and empathize with Hussein, whose interests, concerns, and way of thinking are nothing like normal Americans. He has no American sensibilities, at all - not to mention no interest in helping the US (as has been made so clear). If you praise him for doing nothing, he'll never improve. He'll just get worse and worse. I think we've seen enough examples of this that it shouldn't even be open to question. Just look at his totally dishonest actions and words from Tuscon. That wasn't too long ago to remember.
At least this way I can honestly say that I gave him every chance.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 09:18 AM (1DvsG)
I passed the "he's been given every chance" long, long ago.
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer's 3rd, and Last, Brain Cell - The Sane One at January 21, 2011 05:59 AM (AK0dh)
Posted by: Soviet GOSPLAN at January 21, 2011 05:59 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 21, 2011 05:59 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 21, 2011 06:01 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2011 06:01 AM (1Jaio)
Even if he did say something remotely like what was reported - and I doubt it given it's being reported by his propagandists - it doesn't mean a damn thing. The god-king's lips moving means he's lying. Period.
He's got a damn spine, alright...for pushing his socialist-flavored fascist agenda. Not for anything else.
Posted by: davidingeorgia at January 21, 2011 06:02 AM (02KaY)
That's no way for a Nobel Peace Price winner to speak!
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at January 21, 2011 06:05 AM (E75em)
Posted by: RushBabe at January 21, 2011 06:07 AM (urYpw)
107 That right there.
109 I don't know if that's the case so much as hoping in the best interests of the country that he finally did something halfway correct -- doesn't mean you like him more or dislike him less, but for the country's sake it would be nice if he did at least a few things right...sort of in spite of himself.
Posted by: unknown jane at January 21, 2011 06:08 AM (5/yRG)
He "seems" to do well at first, and then carefully does the opposite. That has been his modus operandi since he was inaugurated. Why all of a sudden are you giving him the benefit of the doubt?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 21, 2011 06:09 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 09:54 AM (tJjm/)
And let's not forget the CIA totally missed Pakistan's and India's impending nuclear tests in the late 90's. One day we'll hear the news about an earthquake in Iran that turns out to be a weapons test.
All the Iranians have to do is enrich enough U238 and use A.Q Khan's warhead design and the Persians have their Islamic bomb.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 21, 2011 06:10 AM (9hSKh)
The two largest Shia countries; both with nuclear weapons. Oh, goody!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 21, 2011 06:12 AM (LH6ir)
Did the Norks come up with a much longer range missile than they've got?
In which case, hadn't he better restore funding to the ABM system he is in the process of dismantling?
Posted by: RayJ at January 21, 2011 09:54 AM (2oRAd)
Exactly. US troops on the ground in Asia are no deterrent against a Nork missile attack on the US. In fact, having our troops there serves to give the Norks more leeway in launching a missile attack on the US (if they have the capability) since we can't just nuke the fuckers (or other equally effective direct means of introducing them to the nether regions) with lots of our troops in proximity. Putting our troops on the ground, when the threat is long range missiles being launched from there, makes no sense at all ...
This statement by the Indonesian makes no sense, at all.
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer's 3rd, and Last, Brain Cell - The Sane One at January 21, 2011 06:14 AM (AK0dh)
Posted by: kathleen at January 21, 2011 06:21 AM (NKTR5)
Just look at his totally dishonest actions and words from Tuscon. That wasn't too long ago to remember.
Very nice. I really appreciate the patronizing comments. Really.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 06:23 AM (1DvsG)
Osama Obama is nothing more than a pesky housefly by comparison. I'm surprised Hu didn't laugh in his face.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 21, 2011 06:24 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Dixie Knormus at January 21, 2011 06:26 AM (A3oMO)
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 10:23 AM (1DvsG)
They weren't intended to be patronizing. And the point about Tuscon was serious and real. He's been feted by many for his "great actions and words" regarding Tuscon, but that was all beyond a joke.
Sorry if you were offended, geoff. That was not the point of my comment (though the tongue-in-cheek comment was meant to be a little funny).
I think that it is a VERY SERIOUS problem that people seem to forget what happened just yesterday ... every single day. And this comment isn't meant to be nasty or patronizing. This is a real, serious, huge problem.
Posted by: Charles Krauthammer's 3rd, and Last, Brain Cell - The Sane One at January 21, 2011 06:28 AM (AK0dh)
I'm now looking for a Presidential candidate with a 'fuck you' attitude who views big government and deficit spending as threats to our national security, and who is willing to push the Chinese into the shitter.
Posted by: nickless at January 21, 2011 06:28 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 06:32 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: unknown jane at January 21, 2011 06:34 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2011 06:36 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 06:36 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 06:37 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: t-bird at January 21, 2011 06:37 AM (FcR7P)
Sorry if you were offended, geoff. That was not the point of my comment (though the tongue-in-cheek comment was meant to be a little funny).
It's all right. I don't do the "outrage du jour" and "Dems can do no right" type posts. I try to do original analysis (as in the unemployment stats) and pick stories that you're not likely to read 20 versions of in the Top 20 conservative blogs. And although I'm very partisan, I try to write objective posts. I've been a staunch Obama critic since the DNC convention 2004, but I'll always try to bend over backwards to be fair. It works out, because there's plenty left to criticize.
I've also been tracking China (economic & military stats) for over 4 years, and with the 2008 election results, I'd honestly given up hope that the US was going to do anything to even slow down their geopolitical ascendancy. This was a bright spot - completely out of the blue, and on the face of it, praiseworthy. It may be an NYT fabrication, or it may be empty words, but just imagining this President saying those words to Jintao Hu blows my mind. In a good way.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 06:39 AM (1DvsG)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 06:39 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 21, 2011 06:42 AM (BP6Z1)
My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 21, 2011 06:43 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2011 06:45 AM (MYJl4)
Posted by: Some dope at January 21, 2011 06:49 AM (s8P1P)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 06:49 AM (02uN6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 06:50 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Al Czervik @ 6 at January 21, 2011 06:52 AM (zgZzy)
See, implicit in that perspective, however well informed it may be, is the obligation that we are required to know our friend or enemy and adjust our manner of speaking or tone to accommodate them. Why isn't it expected that Hu will arrive here knowing full well that his references to the Koreas working this out on their own will be understood as the head-patting bullshit it clearly is and which will only serve to infuriate us?
I'm tired of this presumption that we must be the principle player in this kowtowing horseshit game! What is wrong with plain speaking?
Posted by: steve at January 21, 2011 06:53 AM (UPLmD)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 06:53 AM (02uN6)
Chicago...Chinese...Russian...
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 21, 2011 06:53 AM (4ucxv)
Breaking news! (No link - you can scroll down and find it on Instapundit). Cheez Jonsin has undeniable proof the Jared Loughner listened to "Glen" Beck tell him to "shoot people in the head".
Undeniable proof!
Cheeze's obsessive war against Glenn Beck is much like Andrew Sullivan's war against Palin's womb.
File under: Off the rails. Obsession. Hits bottom, digs.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 21, 2011 06:53 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: Mr. Barky at January 21, 2011 06:54 AM (490S/)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 06:56 AM (tJjm/)
+10
Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at January 21, 2011 06:57 AM (F/4zf)
Cheez Jonsin has undeniable proof the Jared Loughner listened to "Glen" Beck tell him to "shoot people in the head".
Fortunately Gateway Pundit dealt with that last night, and Nice Deb addressed it this morning.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 06:58 AM (1DvsG)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 06:58 AM (tJjm/)
Situations like this, when the Mohammedan Mouthpiece's so-called "spine" is our protection against the Red Chinese, are what make me think we need to take a good look at John Bolton for the Presidency.
A strongly worded note of protest on Facebook ain't cuttin' it when the dung hits the rotary ventilation device.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 21, 2011 06:59 AM (Ulu3i)
You pretty much just described the governor of New Jersey.
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 10:32 AM (02uN6)
Guess who was the only sitting Republican politician to have dinner with Hu.Posted by: Ed Anger at January 21, 2011 07:00 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 21, 2011 07:00 AM (SJ6/3)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 07:03 AM (02uN6)
--
1) Free meal.
2) He's indicated he needs more experience to be viable for a POTUS run some day.
3) You can't apply pressure if you aren't in the room.
Posted by: Y-not is happy it's Friday at January 21, 2011 07:03 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2011 07:04 AM (MYJl4)
Posted by: t-bird at January 21, 2011 07:04 AM (FcR7P)
Fortunately Gateway Pundit dealt with that last night, and Nice Deb addressed it this morning.
Posted by: geoff
Thanks.
Yeah - but cheez sez they are all raaaaaacists. So, you know - when a lefty calls you a raaacist, lefty has shut down the argurment. Lefty is then able to carry on with lefty lies and lefty fabrications that fit the obssessive lefty agenda.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 21, 2011 07:05 AM (0fzsA)
I'd like to see Christi eat a chinese for fun.
Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2011 07:06 AM (MYJl4)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 07:07 AM (02uN6)
"Wang Dong of Peking University's School of International Studies said Washington's reported warning to Beijing was a slap in the face for the Chinese leader, who has urged the two Koreas to resolve their differences through dialogue."
"reported" being the primary word. Did he really say what the articles says he said, or is the NYTs just reporting he said it.
Posted by: davod at January 21, 2011 07:07 AM (GUZAT)
Christie had dinner with Hu. And last week appointed a Muslim judge; a man who has defended terrorists.
Christie has just dropped far down in my estimation. He is currently unfit to hold national office.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 21, 2011 07:08 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: real joe at January 21, 2011 07:08 AM (w7Lv+)
I suspect a little coordinated kabuki (or the equivalent word in Chinese) to keep the little simpleton in power. It was China's idea.
When you look at the story behind China's "new" jet orders, that doesn't sound implausible.
Posted by: geoff at January 21, 2011 07:10 AM (1DvsG)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 21, 2011 07:10 AM (4ucxv)
I would like to know why he thinks this will help him stave off a primary challenge, because right now I am thinking I will support any Republican who runs against him.
Posted by: Miss Marple who has a science degree and is getting quite aggravated at January 21, 2011 07:11 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 07:12 AM (02uN6)
And wine at $199 per bottle.
I figure about 75 Weightwatcher points per plate.
Posted by: Miss Marple who has a science degree and is getting quite aggravated at January 21, 2011 07:13 AM (Fo83G)
Ah, new and improved fluff. Same stuff-higher price.
Posted by: RedneknSC at January 21, 2011 07:13 AM (MbMSS)
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 21, 2011 07:14 AM (02uN6)
1) Free meal.
2) He's indicated he needs more experience to be viable for a POTUS run some day.
3) You can't apply pressure if you aren't in the room.
Posted by: Y-not is happy it's Friday at January 21, 2011 11:03 AM (pW2o
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 21, 2011 07:14 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Iron Barry at January 21, 2011 07:15 AM (FcR7P)
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FTFY
One prays the Tea Party bags Lugar one of these days. (I denounce myself, and CNN apologizes)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 07:15 AM (tJjm/)
http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/
Posted by: KG at January 21, 2011 07:16 AM (DeCj1)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2011 07:17 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: Barry O Capitalist, Made in Indonesia at January 21, 2011 07:19 AM (kb0wl)
Posted by: Sophisahick at January 21, 2011 07:19 AM (WG0x1)
Posted by: t-bird at January 21, 2011 07:20 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 21, 2011 07:20 AM (SJ6/3)
Meh. So Prissypants finally listened to Coach Clinton, and is trying to save his act. Yeah, it's just BS--posturing for political gain at home. AS IF he'd defend this country rather than apologize for it. Right.
I agree with Dr. Savage: "Don't listen to what he (Obama) says, watch what he does."
Obie is a trainwreck.
Posted by: Stillwater at January 21, 2011 07:20 AM (0GpN4)
Posted by: Chairman Maobama at January 21, 2011 07:22 AM (K/USr)
the danger of war on the peninsula can never be dismissed.
If you'd pull the rug out from under the crazy bastard Norks, the danger would be greatly reduced. Mix this with your very own Marshall plan towards them and in 50 years they may well look like the Sorks circa 1990.
Herein lies the difference between us and them.
Posted by: rockhead at January 21, 2011 07:23 AM (RykTt)
Posted by: Luca Brasi at January 21, 2011 07:30 AM (YmPwQ)
I think there's not information to say whether or not Christie was blowing Hu. Lugar, sure, but Christie has the financial health of his state to think about. I don't know what NJ's loan situation is like, but if China is holding some of them, it seems reasonable to be in the room.
Posted by: Y-not is happy it's Friday at January 21, 2011 07:31 AM (pW2o8)
Posted by: t-bird at January 21, 2011 07:32 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Jeff at January 21, 2011 07:33 AM (IRzx9)
He's not running in 2012 anyway, so I plan to just let him do his thing in NJ and see how it shakes out. I don't think it's appropriate to assess every statement and action he takes in the context of a POTUS bid since he is not running for POTUS... he's running New Jersey.
My dad, who is very conservative, loves him. I think a lot of people are impressed by his no-nonsense approach to dealing with a blue legislature and unions over NJ's budget woes.
I think on issues that involve the law Christie's lawyer stripes come through, not always to his advantage. He parses things like a lawyer and sometimes makes statements or decisions based on that outlook, making him seem to equivocate on things. For example, when I read into the immigration statements (pertaining to the AZ law) from a while back my take on it was that he was narrowly focusing on the roles of the federal vs state governments, which made him seem weak on illegal immigration. I think the proof is in the pudding on that issue. I highly doubt a guy who is focused on fiscal issues to the extent Christie is would be nearly as bad/irresponsible on immigration as most of these crazy Democrats are.
Posted by: Y-not is happy it's Friday at January 21, 2011 07:37 AM (pW2o8)
South Korean commandos just wacked some Somalian pirates.
This year's video of Russian Spetznaz taking back a Russian cargo ship from Somali pirates is out there. And it's AWESOME. Old school war-on-the-high-seas justice.....they handcuffed the surviving pirates to their boat, then blasted the boat after sunset.
Pretty flames over a still sea.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 21, 2011 07:38 AM (TAjuH)
Nothing has really changed. He is still a godsend of fiscal sanity for NJ. We knew his moderate views would make him problematic at best as a national republican candidate.
Posted by: MīcÞeMūß at January 21, 2011 07:39 AM (0q2P7)
Two Points..
One, we are still technicly at WAR in the Koreas... its still just a cease fire.
Second. Redeploy what? The already cancelled Anti Ballistic Missle systems?
Oh... and a third point... notice that the only part of the US that NORK could hit, is Hawaii? and now Barry gets tough?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 21, 2011 07:46 AM (AdK6a)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 21, 2011 07:55 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: archie bunker at January 21, 2011 07:58 AM (0YS61)
Those cats were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little bit frightning
Make sure you have expert timing
Why do these lyrics keep going through my head......
Posted by: prettypinkfluffy at January 21, 2011 08:10 AM (yTIlT)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffy at January 21, 2011 08:10 AM (yTIlT)
Christie was walkng the line on several issues, but the radical Muslim judge is an unforgivable sin, IMO.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at January 21, 2011 08:16 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Jumbo Osaka at January 21, 2011 08:27 AM (x06nX)
Yup. He's doing fine here in NJ, but I will not support him for higher office if this is how he sees Islam.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 21, 2011 08:40 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Arms Merchant at January 21, 2011 09:03 AM (VdT9+)
Does anyone else see a problem here?
I think we have to factor in Reuters, too. Reuters and the New York Times. What could go wrong?
Posted by: Dan Rather at January 21, 2011 09:18 AM (mQMnK)
Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 21, 2011 09:25 AM (bxiXv)
"The move to resume talks has required concessions from all sides. South Korea has had to swallow its reluctance to engage the North without an apology for its recent attacks. And the United States has had to abandon its resistance to resuming multiparty negotiations with North Korea, something Beijing has pushed and Washington has resisted as being a reward for the NorthÂ’s aggression."
So really, what have the NoKo's and Chinese given here? NOTHING!
ObaMao's merely posturing tough while going along with his fellow travelers 5 year plan; with a propanda assist, natch, provided by the udeful idiots at the New York Times.
I'd say caving is arguably worse than a bow. What do you think?
Posted by: Bob Reed at January 21, 2011 10:39 AM (2dlWi)
Posted by: Ashen at January 21, 2011 10:42 AM (1Yqpm)
Not exactly. From Reuters: "Pyongyang bowed to Seoul's demands that talks specifically address that attack and the sinking of a South Korean warship last March, but made no mention of talks on denuclearization -- the central component of six-party meetings."
If it were me, I would have held out for an apology and reparations for the Cheonan sinking and Yeonpyeong shelling before even thinking about talking. But the South has seen this game many times before so they probably figured a promise to "address" the issues was the best they could get.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at January 21, 2011 04:05 PM (VdT9+)
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