August 16, 2011
— Ace Texas created more jobs than every state in the union. About 40% (or more, sometimes 48% is cited) of all jobs created during the recession were created in Texas.
Lately, for obvious reasons, liberals have sought to knock this fact down. They note that Texas' unemployment rate just recently began to rise, now at 8.2%, which is middle-of-the-pack as far as states go.
So, why is this? How does the state creating the most jobs have a middling unemployment figure?
Easy. Texas became known as a state where jobs were being created and, guess what, people started moving there. Over 700,000 people have moved to Texas in the past two years.
So while Texas has created more jobs than any state, the surge of newcomers has overwhelmed its job creation, for now, and goosed the unemployment rate to a eh 8.2%.
That blogger, Political Math, constructed a "What-If" chart -- what would Texas' unemployment rate be if it created jobs at its actual level, but if its population did not explode? That is, if its population remained constant?
Compared to other states, with the same assumptions (that is, all states' populations held constant, but figuring in the created jobs), this would be Texas' hypothetical unemployment rate:
Some states fare worse in this analysis, because, for example, they lost population, their people moving away, rather than gaining population.
Look at the top of the graph -- California's unemployment figure is deceptively helped by the fact that tens of thousands of people have deserted the formally Golden State. Add those job-seeking emigrants back in, and the real unemployment rate zooms.
Thanks to gg.
Oh! An explanation for liberal critics:
As Obama's real unemployment rate is deceptively reduced by the number of discouraged workers who have given up seeking work entirely, Texas' unemployment rate is deceptively inflated by the number of encouraged workers seeking opportunities in Texas, fleeing California and the other economic basket-cases.
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Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at August 16, 2011 11:07 AM (GBXon)
The debt pie charts were QUITE useful. This chart should make her think about job creation. Also, we now have 7 relatives (younger generation) living and working in Texas.
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 16, 2011 11:07 AM (Fo83G)
You have some in the Dem faction claiming they are low-paying jobs. You have others like Assholestache and Debbie Wasserman-Woof claiming they were military and stimulus jobs.
Get your talking points straight, jackholes. You're spinning and making us all dizzy.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 16, 2011 11:08 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: brak at August 16, 2011 11:08 AM (nIoiW)
Posted by: ace at August 16, 2011 11:09 AM (nj1bB)
Anytime a moby comes on here with that shit we should ask for a primary source.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 11:09 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: P. Krugman at August 16, 2011 11:10 AM (DEcmU)
Is history repeating? If so, will someone in Texas have the foresight to exercise some quality control this time?
Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at August 16, 2011 11:10 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: huerfano at August 16, 2011 11:11 AM (kD+se)
Posted by: ace at August 16, 2011 03:09 PM (nj1bB)
CA does have an oil industry, or at least they used to when I lived there. If you have ever driven down Interstate 5 between SF and SD you would have seen oil well pumps going to town along that route.
it has been over 30 years since I left there and they may be gone now, but they were there.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 11:11 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: EC at August 16, 2011 11:12 AM (GQ8sn)
And even if it were -- California COULD have an oil industry. They CHOOSE not to.
Posted by: ace at August 16, 2011 03:09 PM (nj1bB)
Even if you take the 15% out Texas still leads the nation. That aside I am wondering when oil and gas jobs weren't real jobs?
Posted by: robtr at August 16, 2011 11:12 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Amazon epub at August 16, 2011 11:13 AM (VM1tJ)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 11:13 AM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:13 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Krugman's Alien Savior at August 16, 2011 11:13 AM (JOXDV)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 16, 2011 11:14 AM (c45xH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 16, 2011 11:14 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:14 AM (6rX0K)
They're still there. Or, at least, all the oil rigs off of Santa Barbara are still there. They're just not pumping.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 11:14 AM (bjRNS)
Oh, thanks for mentioning this.
It all ties together so nicely sometimes!
Food stamp programs are putting people to work.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 16, 2011 11:15 AM (pLTLS)
CA does have an oil industry, or at least they used to when I lived there. If you have ever driven down Interstate 5 between SF and SD you would have seen oil well pumps going to town along that route.
Sorry for jumping in without all the fax'n'figures, but what we don't have is the booming offshore industry we could have if we chose to.
Posted by: arhooley at August 16, 2011 11:15 AM (MnwRG)
Even if you take the 15% out Texas still leads the nation. That aside I am wondering when oil and gas jobs weren't real jobs?
Posted by: robtr at August 16, 2011 03:12 PM (MtwBb)
This^ Real unemployment is above 15% and they're whining about the particular industry in which Texas is creating jobs. F that.
Posted by: chazmartel at August 16, 2011 11:15 AM (wlSqE)
Posted by: pat at August 16, 2011 11:15 AM (4uetg)
Posted by: laceyunderalls
Good lord in heaven. And drug dealers create jobs in the ammunition, EMT and funeral parlor industries.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:16 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at August 16, 2011 11:16 AM (Jbj03)
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2011 11:16 AM (ENKCw)
And even if it were -- California COULD have an oil industry. They CHOOSE not to.
We'd rather have a vibrant economy based on lifeguards making $200k a year, unhinged Air Resource Board regulation, specialized instructors to teach tolerance of the transgendered to illiterate kids and abundant food stamps for illegal aliens.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 16, 2011 11:17 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: pat
If it were true that these jobs were due to the stimulus, then that means that the much vaounted stimulus produced Mcjobs. So why do they think that the stimulus was a good thing?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:17 AM (326rv)
Posted by: ace at August 16, 2011 03:09 PM (nj1bB)
The joys of Federalism.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 16, 2011 11:17 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Johnny at August 16, 2011 11:18 AM (nRTou)
Posted by: Ben at August 16, 2011 11:18 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 16, 2011 11:18 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 16, 2011 11:19 AM (cbyrC)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 16, 2011 03:15 PM (pLTLS)
From this - Every dollar of food stamp spending creates $1.84 of economic activity. So let's put everyone food stamps. Problem solved. Farking idiots.
Posted by: chazmartel at August 16, 2011 11:19 AM (wlSqE)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 11:19 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 16, 2011 03:18 PM (r4wIV)
**** you!!!!
Posted by: 6,000 Shades of Blue at August 16, 2011 11:20 AM (VM1tJ)
Yup, yup, yup. The three million+ he spends on this tour may be the best three million we've spent since Jan of 2009.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 16, 2011 11:20 AM (pLTLS)
Each bottle of wine purchased leads to increased police and jailworker overtime.
Posted by: cherry π at August 16, 2011 11:21 AM (OhYCU)
Every dollar of food stamp spending creates $1.84 of economic activity.
I wonder what the multiplier would be if we used food stamps to break the windows of bakeries?
Posted by: Ben at August 16, 2011 11:22 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Wm T Sherman at August 16, 2011 11:22 AM (w41GQ)
From this - Every dollar of food stamp spending creates $1.84 of economic activity. So let's put everyone food stamps. Problem solved. Farking idiots.
Where from the depths of Hades did they pull that multiplier from?
Yeah, I know - rhetorical question. This is Keynesian economics on crack.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 16, 2011 11:22 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Jordan at August 16, 2011 11:22 AM (4z6KA)
Posted by: Dave at August 16, 2011 11:22 AM (Xm1aB)
>>>>>Do they count illegals in the unemployment numbers?
If so, Rick could have some serious fun rebutting these dishonest, leftist (but I repeat myself) lies.
No they don't.
Posted by: Ben at August 16, 2011 11:23 AM (wuv1c)
Just look!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 16, 2011 11:23 AM (LH6ir)
This asshole didn't give a rip about the economy when he spent over a year on healthcare in the midst of the recession.
"The only thing that's preventing us from passing the bills I just mentioned is the refusal of a faction in Congress put country ahead of party.
"And that has to stop. Our economy cannot afford it. Our economy can't afford it."
Such a sucker of cock he is.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 16, 2011 11:24 AM (pLTLS)
Hey it's working so good that all Detroit school children will now get free lunches.
Must be another jobs program.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 16, 2011 11:25 AM (ENKCw)
Posted by: Jordan at August 16, 2011 03:22 PM (4z6KA)
Other that leading the nation and creating 43% of the jobs in the nation. Nah, nothing impressive about that.
Posted by: robtr at August 16, 2011 11:25 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: cherry π at August 16, 2011 11:25 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Dave at August 16, 2011 11:25 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 16, 2011 11:25 AM (le5qc)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 16, 2011 11:26 AM (VM1tJ)
Posted by: cherry π at August 16, 2011 11:27 AM (OhYCU)
This is not a criticism of Perry*, rather a serious question. How much crowding out of legal job seekers does illegal immigration cause? Has anyone seen any data?
*Of course it IS a criticism of the JEF, who is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 16, 2011 11:27 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: The troll you know is coming to this thread at August 16, 2011 11:28 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: cherry π at August 16, 2011 11:29 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Jordan
You transposed the words spin and point.
For extra credit: how many times has President Obama focused on jobs?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:29 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 16, 2011 11:29 AM (i6RpT)
Or can we use our common language, English?
How about European languages? If they all go one-government, will everybody then speak Euro?
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at August 16, 2011 11:29 AM (4sQwu)
What to do, what to do....
Posted by: sickinmass
Tell them that it's overpriced. What else?
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:30 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: You Know I'm Right at August 16, 2011 11:30 AM (8Pgd/)
If the GOP were smart, they'd ask if Jennifer Granholm is gonna be in charge of this Dept of Jobs.
And then laugh and laugh and laugh...
Posted by: soothie at August 16, 2011 11:31 AM (sqkOB)
Yep.
Or can we use our common language, English?
Get used to the term "damnyankee". Yes, it's one word.
How about European languages?
Spanish is acceptable, but lose the lisp.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 11:31 AM (bjRNS)
No, the point is that controlling for an easily understood variable, population, TX unemployment number is 2%.
4.5 times lower than the national average.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 16, 2011 11:31 AM (DEcmU)
Not to take anything away from the study, but the jobs and people often go hand in hand, such as a company relocating. For example Comerica relocated a bunch of jobs here and the people came from Michigan along with the jobs. There is an enormous subdivision down the road from my house full of Californios that got transferred here. Given the size of the houses, I'm fairly certain those folks aren't working at McD's, even if they did sell their shacks in CA for a mint before the bubble burst.
Speaking of, there were lots of CA refugees who had their kids at the same preschool as my daughter. They mostly transferred to Texas because they thought the housing market in CA was overpriced and they wanted to sell at the top. They got the company to move them to TX, sold their CA house near the top of the market, bought a nicer house here for less, and (like the turn of the century Italian immigrants who originally intended to go back to Italy after making their fortune) they all said they intended to wait out the crash then transfer back to CA. I don't think too many have gone back yet though.
Frankly it's just cheap and easy to live in Texas, and companies move here (and bring some of their old employees with them) to avoid paying taxes (and pay their employees less to boot). If you can get past the horrible summer weather, there are lots of lovely homes and communities.
Posted by: the other coyote at August 16, 2011 11:32 AM (yK44T)
The problem with speaking Texan is that the classes include video instruction for the indoctrination portion. You have to watch Cowboys football, and that is considered cruel and unusual punishment in 18 states.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 16, 2011 11:33 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: NLRB at August 16, 2011 11:33 AM (c45xH)
Facts derived from an honest analysis are stubborn things, aren't they?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 16, 2011 11:33 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 11:33 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: cherry π at August 16, 2011 11:33 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 11:34 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 11:34 AM (EPcuy)
No, the point is that controlling for an easily understood variable, population, TX unemployment number is 2%.
4.5 times lower than the national average.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Oh yeah, we forgot to note that Texas is kinda like the reverse of Detroit. As in, people flocking to a Rethuglican run state and bailing from Dem controlled areas.
Anyone think that Obama can give some people a bus ride down to Teaxs to get a job? He'd then be able to claim that he helped. Finally.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:34 AM (6rX0K)
What to do, what to do....
I just re-subscribed to WSJ for $120/year. The guy on the phone asked me if there was anything else he could do for me and I asked him if he could get the NYT to stop sending me subscription offers. He started laughing, then he repeated it to people around him in his office. I could hear them all laughing.
Posted by: Johnny at August 16, 2011 11:35 AM (nRTou)
Can we get some statistical clarity here? What are the real numbers, employment and moving wise, adjusted for actual taxpaying citizenship status???
.....I denounce myself for the racism....and then ask the question again.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 16, 2011 11:35 AM (2uovW)
Posted by: cherry ð at August 16, 2011 03:33 PM (OhYCU)
Piker. We have 307 million slaves.
Posted by: Barack Hussen Obama at August 16, 2011 11:35 AM (c45xH)
Don't get me started ...
Posted by: Edward Tufte at August 16, 2011 11:35 AM (FcKXR)
Posted by: Senator John Fraud Kweery at August 16, 2011 11:35 AM (3ESDJ)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 11:35 AM (EPcuy)
Adjusted for the Cost of Living, Texans make more money than people in most other states.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 11:36 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: Jordan at August 16, 2011 03:22 PM (4z6KA)
Translation: MATH IS HARD!
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 11:36 AM (T0NGe)
Well that's some very high praise indeed.
Posted by: Joffen
Especially since Ace is doing it one-handed (you probably don't want to know what the other hand is doing about now).
I wouldn't enquire about the origin of the paste either.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 16, 2011 11:36 AM (6rX0K)
Point out that all Obama is good at is appointing czars and committees while he plays golf.
But think of all the caddies he's employing.......
Posted by: MrObvious at August 16, 2011 11:36 AM (2uovW)
No we had a Biden for that. Remember when he was put in charge of the stimulus? *giggle* Of course you do. Anyway, it just needed to be said.
Joe 'What's the website number again' Biden oversaw one trillion dollars in the name of federal job growth spending.
They know they spent a trillion dollars and we got bupkis. Well not true, we got higher unemployment. What say you Jordan?
Anyway, it's really just a matter of time before the class warfare really heats up and we see Barky out there shouting that companies need to forgo profits to higher more US workers.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 16, 2011 11:36 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 03:36 PM (5H6zj)
Only elite denominators. Common denominators are OK as long as they belong to a union and vote Democrat.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 11:37 AM (T0NGe)
son, who is well skilled in a particular construction trade, could not find ANY employment in the Central Valley of Clownifornia so a year ago last June he drove to Dalls/Ft Worth at the invitation of some friends who had already made the move. He arrived on a Saturday, made some calls looking for work on Monday, had a couple of interviews on Tuesday, and he's been working (EVERY WORK DAY THEN SOME), for the same company, since the Wednesday following his Saturday arrival. He has not looked back, other than missing the mountains and stream fishing; says the folks in Texas are great. The wages are apparently not as high as they are in Clownifornia but neither is the cost of living. He just got a bumpersticker that reads, "I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could!"
Posted by: the Butcher at August 16, 2011 11:38 AM (8g9qq)
"Greg" will be along tonight to tell us how any result whatsoever in Wisconsin means the GOP is dead.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 11:39 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: You Know I'm Right at August 16, 2011 03:30 PM (8Pgd/)
The Recursion Presidency: it's post turtles all the way down ...
Posted by: Edward Tufte at August 16, 2011 11:39 AM (FcKXR)
Which has helped us create over 40% of the nation's net jobs in the last 2 years.
I believe the point of the linked post is, indeed, that the two can't be seen in a vacuum: job growth leads to population growth which (with sufficient population growth) leads to a higher unemployment rate.
BTW- we need to make the distinction between unemployment and the unemployment rate. Just like we need to be making the distinction between taxes and the tax rate.
Further BTW- Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 16, 2011 11:40 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 11:41 AM (EPcuy)
your life as I can"
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 11:41 AM (k1rwm)
Are we sure they're not goin' all biblical an' shit on us and creating a Department of Job?
Given what Obama's been doing to the country it seems appropriate.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at August 16, 2011 11:42 AM (iYwUw)
Posted by: You Know I'm Right at August 16, 2011 03:30 PM (8Pgd/)
The Recursion Presidency: it's post turtles all the way down ...
Posted by: Edward Tufte at August 16, 2011 03:39 PM (FcKXR)
+1
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 11:42 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 11:42 AM (nBOrb)
Posted by: No Whining at August 16, 2011 11:44 AM (FcKXR)
Butcher ~
My husband is a construction manager. If your son is a skilled tradesman (plumber, electrician), will show up on time, and do the job right the first time, he will work in Texas every day that he wants to.
There are lots of jobs to be had in Texas if you are willing to show up, not do drugs, get dirty, and not bitch and moan about it. Try any of the independent oil company websites if you want to find an entry-level job that will pay $35,000 a year and requires nothing other than a good attitude and a strong back. Devon, Chesapeake, XTO, EOG, Concho, and Williams all spring to mind as companies that are looking and will take a beginner.
Posted by: the other coyote at August 16, 2011 11:44 AM (yK44T)
Not really, except as a "mood indicator." The democrats went all in on the Republican Recalls and came up short.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 16, 2011 11:44 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: sybil at August 16, 2011 11:45 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 16, 2011 11:47 AM (Axo+R)
Ace! I was fixing to post this very blog of facts on Texas. Now you are in my mind, which is sort of scary. We share love for my Marco, so this has me freaked out enough that I fear my tinfoil hat is a magnet for your brain waves.
May Ace and his herd of morons and 'ette's be victorious behind the generic Republican vs the wimpo who leads from behind.Today Rick Perry is my man. A year from now? ABO, but here's hoping Perry/Rubio 2012.
Rick Perry rides a Harley (as does Texan Marcus Luttrell) and speeds a bit (he also can pilot a big plane while in the Air Force). Barry rides a girl's purple bike wears Mom jeans. Compare and contrast Rick to Barry Poopiepants.
Speaking of riding a bike,ladies, here is Rick without mom jeans:
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 16, 2011 11:48 AM (FnRYN)
From this - Every dollar of food stamp spending creates $1.84 of economic activity. So let's put everyone food stamps. Problem solved. Farking idiots.
Where from the depths of Hades did they pull that multiplier from?
Yeah, I know - rhetorical question. This is Keynesian economics on crack.
Here's the real number to balance that one out - Washington siphons off around 60 cents of every dollar that miraculously manages to find its way to a project. That's a 40% (probably more) interest rate.
I could go to Vinnie the Friendly Neighborhood Goombah and get a better rate than that, with less bad consequences if I didn't pay it back.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 16, 2011 11:49 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 03:41 PM (EPcuy)
Not really. If we lose both, then we keep the state Senate but it's really status quo. If we win one, then you can look at it as having lost a seat because the rep was a philanderer. If we win both, the libs will start jumping off bridges.
In the first two cases, the libs will claim victory but I think even the commenters on the blogs will see through that.
The balance of power cannot change and this will be moot in large part because of redistricting.
But if you're looking for motivation, do it to stop the endless politicizing of every moment of life. We like having elections every 2 years. Otherwise, shuddap.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 11:49 AM (T0NGe)
Dear sybil,
Why did those nasty dried-up old tea party people vote against paying higher taxes to build a new arena for the New York Islanders?
Libby,
That's cause they are out of touch and don't have real jobs and stuff. Now young people in Nassau County won't be able to get jobs and buy homes.
Posted by: sybil at August 16, 2011 11:49 AM (9CM5J)
it's obvious from your post that you know very little about Nassau County.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 11:52 AM (k1rwm)
Here is the BS "secession" news article from AP
Even they did not say that he called for secession.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 11:52 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 11:56 AM (r8Vu0)
Word got out quickly, and by 1982, half the population of the Rust Belt had moved down to Houston, and there were thousands and thousands of people living in tent cities under the highways. The "Help Wanted" section shrank accordingly.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at August 16, 2011 11:57 AM (2AfqM)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 16, 2011 11:58 AM (kUaEF)
Fellow morons, I submit this as exhibit #124 for the prosecution.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 12:04 PM (9CM5J)
Leftists, when confronted by clear evidence of the failings of their ideology, simply lie.
The ones in charge lie to everyone else.
The useful idiots lie to themselves.
Posted by: Warden at August 16, 2011 12:04 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: sybil at August 16, 2011 03:49 PM (9CM5J)
Suggestion: Go with "polish princess" instead
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 12:06 PM (GULKT)
There is no doubt Perry would be a better president than Obama. And his job numbers are better in Texas than Obama's are nationally. However, here in Indiana the unemployment rate is the same as it is in Texas, 8.2%..and we have a budget surplus as well. But then Mitch Daniels is not the kind of guy who will get the sort of credit that a guy like Perry will get. He is too bland.
However, if unemployment numbers are going to be the criteria there are states out there with lower numbers than Texas or Indiana..in fact Iowa is at 6% right now.
Posted by: Terrye at August 16, 2011 12:09 PM (SkhDW)
Posted by: sybil at August 16, 2011 12:10 PM (9CM5J)
However, if unemployment numbers are going to be
the criteria there are states out there with lower numbers than Texas or
Indiana..in fact Iowa is at 6% right now.
Posted by: Terrye at August 16, 2011 04:09 PM (SkhDW)
Thanks for proving you didn't bother to actually read the post. Dunce. Go back to Hot Air.
Posted by: sybil at August 16, 2011 12:12 PM (9CM5J)
And... BOOM go da dynamite.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 16, 2011 12:21 PM (VM1tJ)
Bullshite. Still not convincing. To put a different spin on it, what if Gov. Perry had told the voters: "I'm going to double the per capita income of this state - by kicking you out and bringing in people who earn twice as much." Nice for "Texas," but what good does it do the voters?
Texas's unemployment rate would never be 2% because a disproprotionate number of the people moving there already had jobs at the businesses that relocated there. In other words, the percentage of people who lived in Texas at the beginning of the recession who are unemployed is probably *higher* than 8.2%. The people moving into Texas are actually pulling the unemployment rate DOWN.
Take a "state" with 10,000 people in the labor force, and 1000 people (10%) unemployed. 2,500 working age people move in, all with jobs. Still 1,000 people unemployed, but now the unemployment rate is 1000/12500, or 8%.
That's not precisly how it works, but close enough. Some who moved there were unemployed, and some newly relocated businesses hired unemployed Texans, and some unemployed got hired indirectly thanks to the new economic activity. By the same token, just because all the new Texas jobs aren't in the energy sector doesn't mean that most of the new jobs haven't been created by money thrown off by the energy sector. A new oilfield worker buys a house, and groceries, and a car, and creates all sorts of demand in economic sectors that aren't energy related.
Posted by: Wilson at August 16, 2011 12:28 PM (+/VZz)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at August 16, 2011 12:29 PM (dL9LY)
___________
Was Cesar Chavez the greatest common denominator?
Posted by: Anachronda at August 16, 2011 12:39 PM (FzhYM)
Posted by: sexypig at August 16, 2011 12:49 PM (UmEOs)
I just don't see it. Moving is expensive. How do you get folks to rent to you without gainful employment? My point is, people move a long way to a new state because they've already secured a new job. The rising unemployment rate in TX therefore can mean only two things:
1. New workers are displacing less qualified established Texans.
2. The new jobs that are attracting people like flies are not panning out (for whatever reason).
Neither one of these issues is a dig on Perry, but to dismiss Texas' unemployment rate is just as dishonest as attempts to ignore its job creation rate.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at August 16, 2011 04:18 PM (HwE/1)
Posted by: Monsters of Men Audible at August 16, 2011 04:18 PM (s40ej)
The Demos are realizing their end is near. The more they attack the more you have an idea of who they fear. They would not be attacking Perry if they didn't fear him. That's why they ignore Romney and Pawlenty.
Its is why they focus on Palin, Bachman and now Perry.
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 16, 2011 05:52 PM (t57Qv)
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The author also concluded that Texas' employment surge would still be significant without gains in the energy sector, and the jobs created were not McJobs.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 16, 2011 11:07 AM (bjRNS)