1 Fuck. Him and the Huckster are the last two people we need in this race

2 Does CNN's polling center have any numbers to call outside of a New York state area code?

3 I think we can safely say Republicans as a group haven't a clue who they want, just a perfect picture of who we can't take another 4 years of.

4 Did they poll  curious?

5 The Communist News Network?  Please.

6

I hope Giuliani runs. It'll split between Pawlenty/Huntsman/Romney.

Palin 2012.

7 CNN poll?

I wouldn't even waste a grain of salt on it.

8 So sorry, I'm simply not buying this, because if it's true I will burst into tears at work and frighten my coworkers with the sight of a fat, middle-aged guy sobbing and screaming "NOOOOO! MAKE IT STOP!" And we wouldn't want that.

9

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 27, 2011 01:32 PM (uwljR)

Palin or nothing huh?

10 So CNN thinks Giuliani is the GOP candidate that will be the easiest for Obama to beat.  Good to know.

11

Come on. A lot of us spend our days vetting and re-vetting possible candidates from the moment one election ends until the next one begins. I'd say about 70% of the Americans sampled in any given poll pay next to no attention to politics except during scandals, crises and the week of the general election. Giuliani is recognizable, likable and identified with as safe and experienced. I don't think Rudy would get more than 3-5% support in any poll of informed Repub. voters. It seems late in the season to us, but most people haven't even thought about 2012 candidates yet.

12 I guess we'll know if Rudy is serious when he cancels his national leadership symposium tour with fucking Dan Rather and Goldie Hawn.

13

This poll, whatever its worth, makes Pawlenty look like a chump.
He's being beaten badly by three undeclared candidates.

Pawlenty's kickoff was a dud.

14 I actually buy this -Rudy in the lead at 16%- just as an indication the conservative vote is still split among several candidates.  It's early still.

15

Posted by: kefka at May 27, 2011 01:33 PM (UwqBE)

*facepalm*

16 I don't mind Rudy running even though it seems he has something personal against Romney sort of like Perot against Bush. Rudy is a doer and not a talker. What he wants to do lines up with what's needed now. A social liberal agenda isn't even on his radar.

17 Did they poll  curious?

Posted by: Crazee at May 27, 2011 01:28 PM (H3ujh)

Yeah, I poled her.

Posted by: Golden Slacker

 

If you did, they were all follow up questions IYKWIMAITTYD.

18 You know who is serious already about 2012? Democrats. The Obastard/Rip van Winkle bumper stickers started showing up in Los Angeles over the last week or two. Who can win PA, OH, FL and CO? Isn't that the real question?

19 This just shows how meaningless the national polls are- they are mostly just name ID.  The polls that matter are the ones in Iowa. 

20 If this gets me an Obama-Giuliani debate I'm all for it, because I've never seen a President bawl like a little baby...

21 As a woman, I'm really drawn to candidates who can't stay faithful to their wives.

/sarc.  Just in case.

22

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 27, 2011 01:34 PM (uFokq)

Perry runs and Pawlenty's done

23

Palin or nothing huh?

Posted by: YRM (Heat In The Finals & Now On To Game 7...) at May 27, 2011 01:33 PM (UzBwz)

nah. Heat sucks btw

24 LOL, Rush is talking about the DSK/Obama photo that caused yesterdays epic meltdown..

25 Rush is being hammered w/ callers making their case for their candidate, Rush is adamant he won't be endorsing anyone any time soon and he won;t be swayed but that folks can make a case w/ their calls

26

OT

Please note a certain curiousity with the 40 mm machine gun video. Upon firing full auto, the muzzle immediately climbs skyward after the first discharge, yet the camera shows all four rounds impacting the target area. FAKED!

27 Go Mavs!

28 Any sign of Ace?

29

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 27, 2011 01:37 PM (uwljR)

they're in the Finals, that's how much they suck

and good to see you've come around a little on that Palin or no voting stuff you pulled a couple months ago

30

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2011 01:38 PM (1fB+3)

booooo

31
Bosk, the "greens" are worried about all that Japan nuclear fallout headed to Alaska to kill all the polar bears and caribou. They demand to know why Sarah Palin didn't prepare Alaska for this type of emergency.

Are you worried?

32 29 Any sign of Ace?

Posted by: joncelli at May 27, 2011 01:38 PM (RD7QR)

He was up very late last night.

33 I think ace is introducing alligators into his moat.

34 And I've got to disagree with Soothsayer about Pawlenty looking like a chump.  A kickoff is... a kickoff, no-one else is being held to the standard of needing to pull ahead just by announcing.  And this early, a poll of "Republicans and GOP-leaning independents" is probably polling in part just for long-term name recognition, not a final choice.

35
Any sign of Ace?

He has been spotted rummaging through the trash at Hot Air looking for material.

36

What? Me worry?

37 I thank GOD that I shall soon be CALLED to serve my country as PRESIDENT!!!

38

OT

Please note a certain curiousity with the 40 mm machine gun video. Upon firing full auto, the muzzle immediately climbs skyward after the first discharge, yet the camera shows all four rounds impacting the target area. FAKED!

Yeah, that seemed odd to me too. I wondered if something was wrong with the gun.

Also: the webcam girl vid is an obvious fake.

39 Everything old is new again! Gee, I remember when the MFM assured me for over a year that it would, without a doubt, be Gulianni vs. Hillary! in 2008. Yeah, that worked out well.

40 Damn, formatting fail yet again.

41 CNN should look into that McCain guy from AZ. I understand he'd be a fine candidate.

42

Yeah, that seemed odd to me too. I wondered if something was wrong with the gun.

Possible malfunction. However, the Soviets who could never build a working car or refrigerator, could generally put together a working gun.

43

hey, I know that it's income but what's with the "Republicans stole the election from Al Gore" ad at the top pf the page..?

And Giuliani? Palin's husband has a better shot at the nomination.

44 42 CNN should look into that McCain guy from AZ. I understand he'd be a fine candidate. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 27, 2011 01:44 PM (DAEhL) He's a maverick. The Washington Post said so, so it must be true!

45 Any sign of Ace?

Probably started the weekend festivities early after yesterday, and by festivities I mean he strapped a case of 12 bottles of Valu-Rite to his back and headed deep into the Hobo Hunting Grounds.

46

39

OT

Please note a certain curiousity with the 40 mm machine gun video. Upon firing full auto, the muzzle immediately climbs skyward after the first discharge, yet the camera shows all four rounds impacting the target area. FAKED!

Yeah, that seemed odd to me too. I wondered if something was wrong with the gun.

Maybe faked, but he does have a lot of videos where he shoots a bunch of different guns.  There one of him dual-wielding full automatic shotguns.

47

Posted by: Damiano at May 27, 2011 01:43 PM (3nrx7)

lol

48 So here's the breakdown of the people polled:

1. Democrat (have an Obama sticker on their car): 78%
2. Independent (scrapped an Obama sticker off their car): 21%
3. Republican (use their Obama plates to feed their dog): .5%
4. Conservative (voted for Ross Perot in 1992): .4%
5. The guy on the corner who gives us our NY Times: .1%

49 Possible malfunction. However, the Soviets who could never build a working car or refrigerator, could generally put together a working gun. Posted by: maddogg at May 27, 2011 01:44 PM (OlN4e) The Soviets always put the most competent engineers into weapons design and manufacturing and the bottom of the class in consumer goods and quality assurance.

50

and good to see you've come around a little on that Palin or no voting stuff you pulled a couple months ago

Posted by: YRM (Heat In The Finals & Now On To Game 7...) at May 27, 2011 01:39 PM (UzBwz)

never said that. Only if romney is the nom

51 I wouldn't mind Rudy as Prez. He's not as great as the fictional perfect candidate that all conservatives love and would vote for in a heartbeat if he/she actually walked the earth, but the guy is a leader. He spent two terms head butting NYC liberals, he wouldn't take crap from the ones in Washington. Remember, the opposition candidate is America's version of Hugo Chavez. If Rudy can pull it off, hooray for us.

52
NOTE: Fred Karger was incuded on the list but no resopndents chose him.

That's from CNN's pdf of the full results of the poll. (Nice proofreading, eh?)

Who is Fred Karger?

53 caller who was just on Rush sounded like me (not the accent, what he had to say)

54 29 Any sign of Ace?

Bathhouses closed late?

55

Pataki and Giuliani forfeited their right to run when neither of them got in the 2010 wave running against schumer and gillibrad.

Had they wanted to help the party, they could have then

56 sarahpac new ad. She has good media people

57

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 27, 2011 01:47 PM (uwljR)

you did say that bud, and lots of commenters told you to go ahead and vote, and so you'd take 4 more years of Obama over Romney? *facepalm*

58

With the kind of momentum Buddy Roemer has built with the Tea Party folks, I can't see Rudy overcoming it.

A Roemer/ Giuliani ticket could be pretty effective though.

59 People are so dissatified with the field that whoever gets in the race will automatically take the lead by default for 1 to 2 weeks.

60 Any sign of Ace?

Yea, today, I had sex with my girlfriend. This is the seventh time in a row that she hasn't moved or made any noises the entire way through.

61 On the webcam girl: I can never understand why a beautiful young woman would deface her body with a mess of shithouse graffiti.

62

Posted by: Ben at May 27, 2011 01:48 PM (wuv1c)

ditto I despise that hypocrite Gillibrand

63 he strapped a case of 12 bottles of Valu-Rite to his back and headed deep into the Hobo Hunting Grounds. I thought I heard him mutter something like "a mountain of Ewok pelts... the horror, the horror..."

64

47

39

And really it could just be that they did 2 takes.  One of him firing the gun, and then one showing down range shots.  Would have to do that if they only had a one camera set-up.

65 caller who was just on Rush sounded like me (not the accent, what he had to say)

Posted by: YRM (Heat In The Finals & Now On To Game 7...) at May 27, 2011 01:47 PM (UzBwz)

Awwww, yeahhh.  And Rush knocked it out of the park.  Once again.

66 Forget it Jake, its CNN town.

67 Any sign of Ace?
yea, today, I walked in on my mom trying to wax her butt. Still trying to get the taste of vomit from the back of my throat...

68

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 27, 2011 01:47 PM (uwljR)

the petulant electorate has spoken

69 Let me think this one over: a Mass Gov who achieved socialized health care in his state; a NYC mayor who cleaned up crime and revitalized his city; or an Alaskan Governor who successfully fought corruption and economically enhanced her state. Now forgive me for pointing out that the base of the Republican party comes from the South, Mid-West and Far West. Without this base you lose. Will these regions be better disposed to Guilliani this time around? Dittos Romney? Can Romney promise to carry MA? Can Guilliani promise to carry NY? Given the electoral results from the last 60 years the simple answer is NO. So who is the real front runner here?

70 62 On the webcam girl: I can never understand why a beautiful young woman would deface her body with a mess of shithouse graffiti. Posted by: maddogg at May 27, 2011 01:49 PM (OlN4e) Yes, that bothers me a lot, but then I just thought it was just because I'm a curmudgeonly, bitterly clinging, warmongering hatemeister. Who wants you to get off his lawn.

71 Tanned, rested and rockin'. Newt Gingrich is on my short list for VP.

72

 YRM (Heat In The Finals & Now On To Game 7...)

Go Heat.  Can't stand Cuban.

Pataki considering a run is high comedy.  The trio of Huntsman/Pataki/Johnson is pretty attractive though if creepy zombies are your thing.

73 Any sign of Ace?

yea, today, I received a friend request on Facebook from my biological father, who I have never met in my life. As I was scrolling through his hobbies and interests, I saw "Drinking," "Black women with big asses," and "Getting laid, lol."  So, hey, we got a lot in common, eh? Apple doesn't fall far for the tree.

74

or an Alaskan Governor who successfully fought corruption and economically enhanced her state.

 

Half-Governor, please.

75 Who can win PA, OH, FL and CO? Isn't that the real question? Posted by: George Orwell at May 27, 2011 01:36 PM (AZGON) Guiliani would very, very realistically put the entire midwest and the northern mid-atlantic in play. One of the few Republicans with strong appeal (so strong he was used profusely in House races in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, New York, New Jersey, and New Hampshire). The REAL way to look at the electoral map is who puts the most BLUE seats in serious jeopardy. If Obama has to defend states like New Jersey, he is already losing Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina, Indiana and subsequently the Presidency. That said... Giuliani pissed me way, way the fuck off by not jumping into an EASY race in 2010. Him and Pataki could have tagteamed the Dim Dems running in the Senate, Gillibrand would be no more and even Schumer would probably have been up shits creek. He could redeem himself by challenging Gillibrand- all but assuring us the Senate- but President? Bah.

76

I wouldn't mind Rudy as Prez. He's not as great as the fictional perfect candidate that all conservatives love and would vote for in a heartbeat if he/she actually walked the earth, but the guy is a leader. He spent two terms head butting NYC liberals, he wouldn't take crap from the ones in Washington. Remember, the opposition candidate is America's version of Hugo Chavez. If Rudy can pull it off, hooray for us.

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 27, 2011 01:47 PM

Well said.  Dunno if Rudy's my first choice, but we could do a hell of a lot worse than him. 

77

And really it could just be that they did 2 takes.  One of him firing the gun, and then one showing down range shots.  Would have to do that if they only had a one camera set-up.

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 01:50 PM (oVQFe)

Nah. they could have positioned the camera to show down range and the gun. Besides, the muzzle was aimed at the moon the last two shots. He faked it.

78 Blue *states* not seats

79 it was just because I'm a curmudgeonly, bitterly clinging, warmongering hatemeister. Who wants you to get off his lawn. Can we run you for President? You can have your Gran Torino as a running mate.

80 The trio of Huntsman/Pataki/Johnson is pretty attractive though if creepy zombies are your thing. Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 27, 2011 01:53 PM (dWPyO) VOOOOOOOOOTES!

81

you did say that bud,

-----

did not

82 I was wondering about Fred Karger too.  Here's wiki's summary.  Yeah.  Um, no wonder nobody noticed he was running.

83 The REAL way to look at the electoral map is who puts the most BLUE seats in serious jeopardy. If Obama has to defend states like New Jersey, he is already losing Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina, Indiana and subsequently the Presidency. This is a very interesting observation. How can we tell if Barry really has trouble in a place like NJ? Is it too early to say?

84 P.S. to CAC:  Would've loved to have had Rudy knock off Gillebrand, but it made no sense for him to run for the Senate and start running for Prez 6 months later.  For one thing he would've had to veer back to the left for that race which would hurt him in the Prez race.  And losing that race (this is New York, remember) would kill whatever shot he had at the Presidency.

85 Well, still better than Romney, at least Giuliani is likable.

86 84 The REAL way to look at the electoral map is who puts the most BLUE seats in serious jeopardy.
If Obama has to defend states like New Jersey, he is already losing Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, North Carolina, Indiana and subsequently the Presidency.


This is a very interesting observation. How can we tell if Barry really has trouble in a place like NJ? Is it too early to say?     So you are of the mind that a candidate that can't win their own state will do swimmingly in states just next door? OTAY SPANKY.

87 I like the meaningless polls at Intrade better.  Giuliani is so low that there is no money to be made selling him short.

88

How can we tell if Barry really has trouble in a place like NJ? Is it too early to say?

Too early to say, but still a mighty high hill to climb IMHO

89

It occurs to me that Bachmann, Cain, Palin, etc. better win this time around or they'll forever be rejected by the GOP base as "retreads who have already been rejected once...".

(Not really, just yanking chains.)

90

Posted by: Washington, D.C., Hairdressers, w/ scissors at the ready at May 27, 2011 01:50 PM (Ew27I)

okay...*confused*

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 27, 2011 01:54 PM (uwljR)

if I knew you'd deny it so much I would have remebered the thread and taken your comments to show proof you did, but seems you refuse to awknowledge that or maybe you just simply forgot?

91 I'll give Giuliani this, he is an excellent speaker, live. I saw him here in Little Rock a couple years ago. He is a real professional

92

Nah. they could have positioned the camera to show down range and the gun. Besides, the muzzle was aimed at the moon the last two shots. He faked it.

Posted by: maddogg at May 27, 2011 01:54 PM (OlN4e)

Eh.  I'll just go ahead with the 2 separate takes.  That guy seems to have a lot of guns.

93 And this early, a poll of "Republicans and GOP-leaning independents" is probably polling in part just for long-term name recognition, not a final choice.

Posted by: Dave R. at May 27, 2011 01:40 PM (X/R05)

OK, folks, this is why we have IA/NH/SC primaries.

If we had "national primary day" or had early primaries in huge states, the only candidates that could break the ceiling would be those already nationally known. There would be one prize to win.  Trump would be a realistic nominee.

We haven't had the Ames Straw Poll yet.  That's August.

Then, there's the actual IA caucuses.

And you don't have to even win those, because NH is next.

Etc. etc.

94 This is a very interesting observation. How can we tell if Barry really has trouble in a place like NJ? Is it too early to say?

Posted by: George Orwell at May 27, 2011 01:56 PM (AZGON)

TRENTON — In a poll released today, New Jersey voters prefer President Barack Obama in the White House over their own Gov. Chris Christie.

A poll of 1,000 likelyNJ voters found Obama beating Christie 51 percent to 33.5 percent. The polled, performed by Stockton College and Zogby using live interviews, had a margin of error 3.2 percentage points

95 This is a very interesting observation. How can we tell if Barry really has trouble in a place like NJ? Is it too early to say? Posted by: George Orwell at May 27, 2011 01:56 PM (AZGON) Giuliani has always polled exceptionally well in the Garden State. Christie used him for his election campaign. I would venture to say that Giuliani could even scare Obama in the Empire State. He is one of that states most popular politicians, and even maintained his popularity post-office in New York City. Obama would still carry new york, but again, we need to play things like in 2010- don't go after the "easy" states and seats. Scare the Dems in the next batch. Democrats panicked in 2010 and actually abandoned dozens of races to defend the "next most blue" just to save face. Can you imagine what would happen if Obama lost a state like New Jersey, Maine, Oregon...or New York?

96 Since I've seen plenty of evidence that most morons will abandon anyone sufficiently savaged by the media, I'm obligated to say that Giuliani is damaged goods and he'd really have to have shown me some willingness to go back and study how to present himself to overcome his handicaps.  Perhaps he should be content with the Kingmaker title. 

Did I get all the tropes?  Seriously, I'd vote for him.  WTF, at this point.

97 If Barry isn't in trouble in blue states, then it again reduces to the problem, who can win OH, PA, CO and FL.

98

Posted by: George Orwell at May 27, 2011 01:56 PM (AZGON)

Kerry was in trouble in NJ and did last second defending there in 04, we'll know come about crunch time in the last month if polls show the Dem losing ground in tradtional blue states, if that happens it takes time away from getting states needed to win the election like it did w/ Mac in 08 in places like Indiana, Nort Carolina, & such.

99

Posted by: YRM (Heat In The Finals & Now On To Game 7...) at May 27, 2011 02:00 PM (UzBwz)

Your obsession with him is almost as bad as his Palin fanboy-ism.  And as far as I have ever seen I've never seen him say it was Palin or nothing.  I have seen a few others.  And he's certainly not saying it now.  So quit being such a prick about it.  So we don't have to keep hearing about how you swear you once saw him say "palin or nobody" every other day.

100

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 27, 2011 02:02 PM (136wp)

i'd like to see that poll done w/ a more accurate pollster then Zogby

101

Eh.  I'll just go ahead with the 2 separate takes.  That guy seems to have a lot of guns.

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 02:01 PM (oVQFe)

They had to do 2 takes anyway, because the first one malfunctioned mechanically or due to operator error. A gun cannot hit (at least with dumb rounds) what it is not aimed at.

BTW, I have a lot of guns, too. Some of which I built myself.  I do not have a Soviet era 40 mm machine gun, though.

102 We need to run 2012 the way Obama ran 2008. Obama had Republicans in a tizzy in states like North Dakota, Nebraska, Montana, North Carolina, and Indiana- states that all went Bush by double digits. If we start planning the way he did, it isn't hard to imagine forcing him to waste $ in states like Oregon, New Jersey, Maine, and Washington- $ that can't be spent in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Nevada. Again, the math is good for G, but he burned too many people-including myself- to ever win a primary.

103 The thing that pisses me off about RINO Rudy almost as much as the fact that he is a gun grabber and started that buisness of setting up strawman purchases in the South was him jumping over to help the damn Dems get standing at the Supreme Court to kill the line-item veto.

If he got the nod I would vote third party or stay at home.

104

104 The thing that pisses me off about RINO Rudy almost as much as the fact that he is a gun grabber and started that buisness of setting up strawman purchases in the South was him jumping over to help the damn Dems get standing at the Supreme Court to kill the line-item veto.

And that is what makes him a RINO.

105

Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 02:04 PM (oVQFe)

i've mentioned it in 1 thread before this, and this one. that's 2 threads in the span of what? 3 weeks-1 month, hardly an obsession. so calm down

106 If we start planning the way he did, it isn't hard to imagine forcing him to waste $ in states like Oregon, New Jersey, Maine, and Washington- $ that can't be spent in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Colorado or Nevada. It would be wonderful to find a way to force Barry to blow his cash in such a manner. Who could do that effectively? I really don't know.

107 Why is Rudy a rino? because he is from NY? Because he dressed in drag for a comedy sketch?
Are there any reasons he is a rino that actually pertain to his views?

108 Hmm, maybe JEF was only 1 year ahead when he signed that guest book  instead of 3 years behind?  Just sayin.

Oh, and maybe Rudi should get that in-the-ear phone thing for when he gets a phone call in the middle of a speech.

 

109 OK I see, the 2nd Amendment thing.

110 NO, it's not the year of the RINO; it's the Year Of Otherwise Apathetic, Centrist Voters Being Scared And Awake.  And Who does that help?  Romney and Pawlenty.  But mostly Romney ;-)

111 If he got the nod I would vote third party or stay at home.

Posted by: Vic at May 27, 2011 02:06 PM (M9Ie6)

Vic, I love you like a bro, but this is exactly the wrong attitude. Rudy would be a thousand times better pres than Barky.
Not that I think Rudy has a chance in hell of getting the nod.

112 He could redeem himself by challenging Gillibrand- all but assuring us the Senate- but President?

Bah.

Posted by: CAC at May 27, 2011 01:54 PM (JEVge)

President is ridiculous.  This is a nonsense poll based on name recognition.

Guiliani is bald, old, has cancer and has a horrible marital history.

His best moments are a decade past and his main issues -- crime and security -- just aren't on the top burner.

He stands a much much much better chance of beating Gillibrand.  I'd say it's better than 50/50.

113 Who is Fred Karger?

Are you kidding? Loved him in "Nightstallion on Oak Street"

114 If I recall there was a Presidential Candidate that would have won the presidency if he had only been able to carry his home state. Now, who could that be? Not a good idea to give the nomination to candidate that doesn't have his home state locked up. If you don't believe me, just ask Al.

115 He stands a much much much better chance of beating Gillibrand. I'd say it's better than 50/50. Posted by: AmishDude at May 27, 2011 02:12 PM (T0NGe) Poll wise (including PPP polling), it was more like 90-10. IIRC, he only "lost" to her in one hypothetical poll. The rest he enjoyed a lead of 6-12 points. Not a landslide, but it is great for New York.

116

Guiliani is bald, old, has cancer and has a horrible marital history.

wait, so instead of policies you have beef w/ him w/ that?

117

Posted by: Vic at May 27, 2011 02:06 PM (M9Ie6)

then frankly gtfo

118 CAC-unless I misunderstand your post, you've got it all wrong about NC. Obama had Repubs here in a tizzy for a good reason. 3 weeks (?) of open voting resulted in an Obama win (by 15,000 votes).

119 then frankly gtfo

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn, so KMA.

120

Posted by: Vic at May 27, 2011 02:22 PM (M9Ie6)

okay, line crossed, you don't like me, I don't like you; ignore me and i'll ignore you - I'll keep that in mind purity or die brigade

121 So what was gtfo?

122 122 So what was gtfo?

My guess, the threat to stay home or vote 3d party on election day.

123

gtfo?

 

I thought that was a classic muscle car.

Oh wait, thats a GTO.

124 Re the 40mm - is it a Soviet gun? I thought I heard the word Bofors in there.

125 And Giuliani? Palin's husband has a better shot at the nomination. Todd Palin: Holding America's Purse 2012

126 Todd Palin: Holding America's Purse 2012

Let 's move on to someone new like Perry.

127

The sample: 473 Republicans

Margin of Error: +/- 4.5%

Rendering this poll meaningless.

128 Listening to Mark Simone being literally threatened by Hannity's listeners to not mention Guiliani and to "push a real conservative."

Is there no where the incivility isn't going?   Now talk radio callers are beginning to sound like cult followers on the internet.

129

Buncha selfish bitches. They don't even live in New York, why the fuck should they care who is President?

130 Listening to Mark Simone being literally threatened by Hannity's listeners to not mention Guiliani and to "push a real conservative."

This is as bad as people who are trying to push Palin out of the race.

131 This is as bad as people who are trying to push Palin out of the race.

Posted by: LAI at May 27, 2011 04:04 PM (gDhR9)

I'm sorry that trump left the race.  I think the more the merrier.  the better the debates, the better the serious discussions, the better to get it all out on the table.  Make it a badge of honor, if you survive the republican primary proces, you can survive just about anything.

trump should get a bunch of accountants and Estates and trusts attorneys in to create trusts for each of his kids to run while he is running for president.  Then, just give his income from the apprentice and the use of his name.   If you put it all ITF the kids, then it's has nothing to do with him.  Other presidents have done similar things before.

The one kindly "little old lady" I heard speak with mark simone, sounded downright threatening.  Her man was mitt, no matter what reservations simone had, she said "well maybe he has some explaining to do, but" and then rattled on about not mentioning the others, particularly guiliani.  Oddly enough she was arguing that we need one true conservative in the bunch and that's mitt.  Now, I'm not a conservative but I didn't think mitt was a conservative, so who knows how people see things.

132 If Rudy could do for the country what he did for NYC that wouldn't be all bad.  His RINOism is mainly on the social side and as president he won't affect that much.  Plus he will tack right on those issues to get the nomination.  He is fifty trillion times better than Obama.

133 2012- The Year of the RINO? Allahpundit specializes in this sort of nasty taunt. I would have thought you were above it, Drew--even if, unlike him, you don't immediately go running for the cover of a phony "beta male" personality.

134 Ken Royall: David Frum was one of Giuliani's top advisers. That says everything you need to know.

135 His RINOism is mainly on the social side and as president he won't affect that much.

BS; I'll repeat what I said on the other thread:

There or some I consider as bad as Obama. Rudy is one of those. Any Republican who joins with a Democrat in a civil suit for the Supreme Court just so the Democrat can get standing is NOT a Republican.

And add that to the fact that he is a hardcore gun grabber. Not to mention a lying shit-weasel who can not be trusted.

But not to worry, I expect Rudy has about the same chance as Hunstman; ie zero.

136 So let's remember, the incurious one has suddenly jumped off the palin train because she went out to other sites and found her supporters to be too cult like and crazy.  But she was really really really hoping that Donald Trump would run, even though he was actively recruiting some of the nuttiest fringes to his banner with the birther stuff.

137 Posted by: buzzion at May 27, 2011 04:44 PM (oVQFe)

sometimes a good hard look at people and what they are spewing makes you wonder about the person or candidate that attracts those kinds of people.  I was a big Glenn Beck fan and that stopped but you only mention the palin stuff cause that suits your point.

I think all these folks should decide to run for president.  I think the more the merrier.  If you survive the primaries and the convention, which they are already saying in comments, is going to be "a split convention" which I don't even know what that means.  Then you are the nominee and you have the fight of your life on your hands.

138 You can't be serious. I get Rudy is pro money. I hadn't heard that he's super 'let the rich pay their fair share'.

But, wow, he's not pro GOD, pro life, or pro gun. How exactly can he be anything but a rino? Is he running as a dhimmicrap?

He is pro politician. He is A professional politician.

You can't be serious. I'm not even gonna talk about the dress thing. That was just stupid.

139 Good to see a blogger admit the poll is meaningless, usually political analysts treat polls like the voice of God.

140 I want to see a Bachmann v. Palin catfight. They are both friends, but one ran as VP and the other will run for POTUS. I don't think Palin has the guts to run. She quit as the Governor and took a lucrative FOX gig. Her family has picked up the franchise. Palin will run her mouth in this race, but she will stay out of it.