February 09, 2011

Another Business-Friendly Action From The Mostest Business-Friendliest Administration
— LauraW

We believe that Progs are anti-business because they really do react in pain when they find out that someone, somewhere, is making an honest buck that hasn't been processed first through the digestive system of an obese bureaucracy.

But not always. Some professions are more Godly than others and deserve a little referral now and again, especially if they belong to professional organizations that donate a lot of money to a certain political party.

In an unprecedented and controversial move, the White House has launched a new program at the Department of Labor which will refer workers who have complaints about their bosses to a toll free number at the American Bar Association, where they can get a lawyer to work on their case on a contingency fee basis.

More than 40,000 workers annually contact the Department of Labor with complaints about their bosses. But Labor canÂ’t get to all of them, an estimated 10%, because of budget constraints, the White House says.

Unprecedented. As always.

Sheriff Joe says the attorneys' fees for suing your employer will not harm you since they will be “contingency on the back end.”
And if you own a small business, you can figure out for yourself whose back end he's talking about.

I guess the Dems don't mind 'privatizing' certain functions of government when there's a little political incest to be had. And there is.

Obama-appointee M. Patricia Smith is Solicitor General at the Labor Department, and was previously Commissioner of the NY State Dept. of Labor.

While there, Smith devised the heavily criticized “Wage Watch.” Initiative....

...The program basically enlisted private entities to act as labor market watchdogs over businesses in “formal partnerships” with the state.
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But union activists and community organizers were deputized in the program, giving a way for unions to target unorganized companies, and businesses cried foul, arguing that union activists could cook up false labor violations in order to strong arm businesses into unionizing, says James Sherk of the Heritage Foundation.

A union local at that time also wrote down its plan to use wage watch in “all of our organizing campaigns,” reports Sherk. New York state business associations voiced their concerns in a letter to Smith in February 2009.

Emphasis me.
Everything is screw-business-all-the-time with these lefties, and they use our own damn money to do it to us.
This entire presidency- the whole thing, from one end of it to the other- is only about transferring money and power from the host (the People) to the parasite (the political class).

Thanks to Spongeworthy.

Posted by: LauraW at 06:44 AM | Comments (98)
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1
first, we kill all the...


Posted by: Soothsayer has a problem with Wang Dong at February 09, 2011 06:45 AM (uFokq)

2
President Litigation.

Posted by: Soothsayer has a problem with Wang Dong at February 09, 2011 06:46 AM (uFokq)

3 Pass.

Posted by: Monika Lewinski at February 09, 2011 06:47 AM (gZVTR)

4 This is a blatant violation of the original labor laws and the Constitution. But with Barky it is business as usual.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2011 06:48 AM (M9Ie6)

5
We all grew up watching sheister lawyers advertise their practice on tv.

In my area, it was Barry Sokolove and Dane M. Schulman.

Barry would "fight" for you!

Posted by: Soothsayer has a problem with Wang Dong at February 09, 2011 06:48 AM (uFokq)

6 And folks, don't confuse this with a boon to the lawyers. This is a gift to the labor unions.

Posted by: Vic at February 09, 2011 06:48 AM (M9Ie6)

7 The dem party is a wholly owned subsidiary of the ABA and the ATLA.

Posted by: huerfano at February 09, 2011 06:50 AM (2pEj7)

8 Drop a dime on your boss ... love it...

Posted by: Mary Kay Henry at February 09, 2011 06:51 AM (ExizH)

9 Evil never sleeps.

Posted by: eman at February 09, 2011 06:51 AM (gZVTR)

10 4 This is a blatant violation of the original labor laws and the Constitution. But with Barky it is business as usual.


______________________________

What's this thing you call "the Constitution"?

Posted by: inquiring minds at February 09, 2011 06:52 AM (ExizH)

11

On a related note:

Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernake said the unemployment rate is likely to remain high “for some time” even after the biggest two-month drop in the jobless rate since 1958.

Bernanke told the House Budget Committee today that while the declines in the jobless rate in December and January “do provide some grounds for optimism,” he cautioned that “with output growth likely to be moderate for a while and with employers reportedly still reluctant to add to their payrolls, it will be several years before the unemployment rate has returned to a more normal level.”

 

I can't imagine why. After all Barry told business to hire people and spread the wealth around. You mean that won't improve the job market?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2011 06:53 AM (1Jaio)

12 Where's the hotline for requests to impeach the America-hating Precedent?  Do we send those requests to fishy@bad.gov or something?  What was that email?

Posted by: iknowtheleft at February 09, 2011 06:53 AM (N49h9)

13 And if you own a small business, you can figure out for yourself whose back end he's talking about.

Protect yourself the way I do.  Only hire ex-con lesbian crack whores, and only for cash.

Yeah I'm a racist, deal with it.

Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at February 09, 2011 06:53 AM (F/4zf)

14 Well finally a plan to create jobs.

1 Sue the person that pays you out of business
2 ??????
3 Jobs

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 09, 2011 06:54 AM (tf9Ne)

15
  Something different each day.  So what happens when the tipping point's reached, and pushback starts?

  Will the repudiation be political or physical? I'm genuinely curious about this.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 09, 2011 06:54 AM (ud5dN)

16 As they say BEWARE OF GEEKS BEARING GIFTS and obamas gift is totaly worthless kind of like getting those wacky sock with the toes areas

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 09, 2011 06:54 AM (vA9ld)

17

so Obama's in the lead generation business for lawyers now? well, since most lead generation in the real world is shit, let's make these leads shit. call up and generate a lead, and then when the lawyer contacts you, say you want to sue the govt., the UAW, the local school board, the ABA, ACORN, or the women's studies dept at the local university. Cold calling is fun and coffee is for closers.

Posted by: Ned Ryerson. I used to bone your sister at February 09, 2011 06:56 AM (AOruP)

18 You'd be a fool to start a business today. Take the seed money, put it in gold, bury it in the back yard, and work for conservatives. Spring will come if we all work to get rid of Barky and the DemonRats.

Posted by: joncelli the rather frustrated taxpayer at February 09, 2011 06:58 AM (RD7QR)

19 We don't need no bar number, we need a law-yer.

Posted by: Terril Owens at February 09, 2011 06:59 AM (d9QQP)

20 My backend is getting pretty chapped.

Posted by: the chicken at February 09, 2011 07:01 AM (GTbGH)

21 On AM 1210, a (mostly) conservative talk radio station in Philly, not only are most of the ads PSAs from innumerable agencies, filled to overflowing with meddlesome twits, in the federal government, but now they've been joined by a series of trial bar-financed ads extolling the virtue of trial lawyers and no caps on damages.

I guess Lenin was right: capitalists will manufacture the rope with which they will be hanged.

Posted by: ya2daup at February 09, 2011 07:01 AM (7GfKM)

22 Spurwing!!! Awesome.

Posted by: lauraw at February 09, 2011 07:02 AM (TduXT)

23 The guys get purple shirts.

Posted by: Paul Anka, SEIU Member at February 09, 2011 07:04 AM (AZGON)

24 Why does this make me think there are hundreds of Shirley Sherrod type community organizers out there at various and sundry, federally funded non-profits drumming up business for this and exhorting people to 'get their share'.  Am I too early?  Is this program the chicken or the egg?

Posted by: Dusty at February 09, 2011 07:04 AM (u0ccm)

25 And still there are Pubbies who insist that finding departments to eliminate in the federal government is nigh on impossible ... even in the face of this blatant pandering to trial lawyers by the Labor Department.

Posted by: ya2daup at February 09, 2011 07:05 AM (7GfKM)

26 You wingnuts don't get it that business always makes more money when the government is there to guide them.

The Dow is up to 100,000 so you're just upset that a black man is in the Oval Office

Posted by: In before the troll at February 09, 2011 07:05 AM (vdfwz)

27 If only I could think of some form of past business-related oppression to cash in on. Hmmmm...One of my former employers made me eat bad hot dogs at the company picnic -- I'll charge them with insensitivity to my newly discovered vegan principles! That's it! Local shyster, here I come!

Posted by: joncelli the rather frustrated taxpayer at February 09, 2011 07:07 AM (RD7QR)

28

This entire presidency- the whole thing, from one end of it to the other- is only about transferring money and power from the host (the People) to the parasite (the political class).

Joe the plumber managed to get Barry to admit this.  Which is why they went after him so hard.

Posted by: rockhead at February 09, 2011 07:07 AM (RykTt)

29

This entire presidency- the whole thing, from one end of it to the other- is only about transferring money and power from the host (the People) to the parasite (the political class).

 

Parasites always kill their hosts.  They can't help themselves. 

In a symbiotic relationship, parasite & host each get something out of the relationship and it can continue.  But a parasitic relationship always ends in the destruction of the host.  In the end there will only be.........oh you know.

Posted by: Boots at February 09, 2011 07:08 AM (neKzn)

30 "Obama-appointee M. Patricia Smith is Solicitor General at the Labor Department, and was previously Commissioner of the NY State Dept. of Labor."

Oh, maybe that's why.  Seriously, I hadn't gotten to this part before I posted my initial comment.

Posted by: Dusty at February 09, 2011 07:08 AM (u0ccm)

31 Sheriff Joe says the attorneys' fees for suing your employer will not harm you since they will be “contingency on the back end.”

No lawyers were harmed in the making of this drama

Posted by: F Lee Biden at February 09, 2011 07:09 AM (vdfwz)

32 Come get your waivers here! We got your deep dish Chicago Waivers, your Hollywood Waivers, all sorts of waivers! BUY before you're priced out!

Posted by: Barack Cramer Obama at February 09, 2011 07:11 AM (vdfwz)

33 This entire presidency- the whole thing, from one end of it to the other- is only about transferring money and power from the host (the People) to the parasite (the political class).

From who's big and bigger to who is small and smaller.

Posted by: Plateau Plato at February 09, 2011 07:12 AM (H+LJc)

34

Seriously, Pres Zero comes out & makes a big speech on Monday to the Chamber of Commerce, saying, hey, hire some people!

The very next day, he puts into place a program whereby if you have any employees, those employees will be rewarded by the government if they call the rat line and make stuff up about your company.

 

Posted by: Boots at February 09, 2011 07:12 AM (neKzn)

35 A common thread among leftists is that they misunderstand both the process and purpose of running a business. Most leftists believe (apparently sincerely) that a business primarily exists to provide jobs for the workers, and only secondarily to provide the goods or services that it is nominally in the business of producing. It is an essentially socialist belief, though most except those on the hard-left at least pay lip-service to the free market. You hear the word "greed" come out of leftists primarily because they don't understand the role of the profit motive, or how it benefits both businesses and employees. (Hint: a growing and vibrant company employs more people; a failing company employs fewer people; a failed company employs no people at all.) So when I hear Bammer lecturing business owners on what they "owe" to their employees, I am confused: all they "owe" is the paycheck and benefits that have been promised in exchange for the employees' labor. The business is not obligated to operate at a loss indefinitely just to provide workers an income -- it is a guaranteed path to insolvency and failure, a situation from which no one benefits.

Posted by: Monty at February 09, 2011 07:12 AM (4Pleu)

36 You might recall M. Patricia Smith was the appointee that had her confirmation vote [60 to 37] rushed through a few days before Scott Brown was sworn in.

Also:

During the confirmation fight, Republicans voiced concern that that program was used to help unions organize workers. Republicans also said Ms. Smith had been untruthful when she testified that she had not held discussions about expanding the Wage Watch program.

Ms. Smith ultimately acknowledged that she had unintentionally misspoken on some matters, saying she had meant to say only that she had not authorized the programÂ’s expansion.

Smith at her confirmation hearing stated, "We are enforcing the law as creatively and aggressively as we can, but the government cannot do it alone."

NYT/NLPC


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 09, 2011 07:12 AM (T5Brv)

37 Not to be an Eeyore, but I wish someone - anyone - could convince me that this tool won't be re-elected.  Looking at the GOP contenders, I don't see anyone winning the African-American and "White Guilt" vote.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 09, 2011 07:13 AM (zgZzy)

38

This entire presidency- the whole thing, from one end of it to the other- is only about transferring money and power from the host (the People) to the parasite (the political class).

You can see me.

Posted by: The Light at February 09, 2011 07:13 AM (dKCBV)

39 Many, many junior law partners  are ill-treated by their employers, just saying. And almost all of them have telephones. Go long on popcorn.

Posted by: comatus at February 09, 2011 07:13 AM (W5ilH)

40

Nothing stimulates business and job growth like law suits. Except unemployment benefits. 

 

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at February 09, 2011 07:13 AM (1Rgee)

41 6 And folks, don't confuse this with a boon to the lawyers. This is a gift to the labor unions.

Yes, but the lawyers at the Department of Labor still get a nice pay-day for their time, as they won't be working pro bono.  And the Department of Labor has more lawyers than any other Department save for the Department of Justice. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 09, 2011 07:13 AM (9hSKh)

42

This is a blatant violation of the original labor laws and the Constitution.

I would so like to agree with you, if only it were merely a violation.

This is a nullification of laws -- all of them.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 09, 2011 07:13 AM (sWynj)

43 I'm not out to screw businesses.

If you like your business, you get to keep your business

Posted by: King Barry I at February 09, 2011 07:14 AM (vdfwz)

44 Sheriff Joe says the attorneys' fees for suing your employer will not harm you since they will be “contingency on the back end.”

I just love how everything these economic retards propose comes with "zero cost to you, the taxpayer". If the choice comes down to "stupid" or "malevolent", I'll take the latter every time.

Posted by: ya2daup at February 09, 2011 07:15 AM (7GfKM)

45 Let us kill all the lawyers.

Posted by: Richard III at February 09, 2011 07:16 AM (X1kjT)

46

45 Let us kill all the lawyers.

And the politicians . . . and the lobbyists . . .

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 09, 2011 07:18 AM (zgZzy)

47 Hollywood studios are among the worst violators of labor laws and abusing their workforce. One in particular I won't name blackballs you for putting in a Workmen's Comp claim (personal experience and other employees and contractors experiences).

Champion of the Working Man Michael Moore is also loathe to follow rules or pay people for work they've done

I wonder if THOSE complaints will get processed

Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2011 07:18 AM (vdfwz)

48 The lawsuit industry went from being about getting actual damages to a chance to get "free money". It has been hit by people with the welfare mentality. Democrat party motto: Free money

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2011 07:18 AM (8jQbF)

49

Another Business-Friendly Action From The Mostest Business-Friendliest Parasitic Administration

Posted by: Plateau Plato at February 09, 2011 07:18 AM (H+LJc)

50 Paging AmishDude...

Posted by: JP at February 09, 2011 07:20 AM (8s9tr)

51 where they can get a lawyer to work on their case on a contingency fee basis.

Works on Contingency? No, Money Down!


Posted by: Lionel Hutz' Corrected Business Cards at February 09, 2011 07:21 AM (Q0w+1)

52

Obama-appointee M. Patricia Smith is Solicitor General at the Labor Department, and was previously Commissioner of the NY State Dept. of Labor.

While there, Smith devised the heavily criticized “Wage Watch.” Initiative....

That's what she said!

Posted by: Michael Scott at February 09, 2011 07:22 AM (vdfwz)

53 If this is such a worthy project, shouldn't the lawyers be working pro bono?

Posted by: andycanuck hey-ho hey-ho free the nickless and logprof two at February 09, 2011 07:23 AM (2rOwc)

54 Works on Contingency? No, Money Down!

Posted by: Lionel Hutz' Corrected Business Cards

 

Thread winner!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 09, 2011 07:24 AM (zgZzy)

55 Ha, ha, ha. ROTFLMAO!!!!

Sometimes I kill myself.

Posted by: andycanuck hey-ho hey-ho free the nickless and logprof two at February 09, 2011 07:24 AM (2rOwc)

56 39 Many, many junior law partners  are ill-treated by their employers, just saying. And almost all of them have telephones. Go long on popcorn.
Posted by: comatus at February 09, 2011 11:13 AM

See the fine print regarding "waivers"

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 09, 2011 07:26 AM (vdfwz)

57 The worst is when you meld welfare people with lawyers. Several years ago a neighbor of mine, who was a cliche welfare type (3 kids, different fathers, no interest in working, dumber than a box of rocks, kids playing in the street at midnight, had been on the dole 15 years), fell in a small store. She had no f___king injury. But of course, being of the handout mentality, she went to one of THOSE lawyers, who sent her to one of THOSE doctors. The doctor got her a cane. Unfortunately he forgot to tell her to act like she had an injury. She would walk up and down the sidewalk without leaning on the cane or limping. It was really quite funny. She ended up not getting anything, the store was in the process of closing.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2011 07:26 AM (8jQbF)

58 Let us kill all the lawyers.
Posted by: Richard III

And the politicians . . . and the lobbyists . . .

Posted by: Wyatt Earp

I think limiting it to just lawyers will take out 90% of all three.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 09, 2011 07:26 AM (tf9Ne)

59 The costs of energy will necessarily skyrocket

The costs of health care will necessarily skyrocket

The costs of private business will necessarily skyrocket

I see a trend.


Posted by: bill at February 09, 2011 07:26 AM (VGEci)

60 The costs of energy will necessarily skyrocket

The costs of health care will necessarily skyrocket

The costs of private business will necessarily skyrocket

I see a trend.

Barry's Sputnik moment?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 09, 2011 07:29 AM (tf9Ne)

61

I think limiting it to just lawyers will take out 90% of all three.

 

Yeah, good point.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 09, 2011 07:29 AM (zgZzy)

62 If we ever get control of our government back, I hope we have someone in charge who is as vicious and cut throat about paying these motherfuckers back as they have been in tearing down our society.

I know, I know.

I'm dreaming.

But God would it be nice to have someone in the White House kicking the unions, the lawyers, the layabouts, the banksters, and the rent seekers in the nuts day after day.


Posted by: Warden at February 09, 2011 07:29 AM (V6HDd)

63 Webb won't seek reelection

Warning:  Politico

Virginia Senator Jim Webb plans to announce today that he won't seek reelection, a senior Senate source said.

Posted by: toby928™: Free nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 09, 2011 07:33 AM (GTbGH)

64 The program basically enlisted private entities to act as labor market watchdogs over businesses in “formal partnerships” with the state.

One of the key elements of national socialist economics is a partnership between labor unions, big business, and the government - with the majority of the power in the hands of the latter.

There is simply no question any more that the modern western left is national socialist in orientation.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2011 07:34 AM (7BU4a)

65 Posted by: toby928™: Free nickless the still-banned (99.174.64.43) at February 09, 2011 11:33 AM (GTbGH)

I can't imagine why!

Posted by: Pissed off Virginian at February 09, 2011 07:35 AM (LH6ir)

66 All your base belong to us!

Posted by: Barack at February 09, 2011 07:35 AM (LdYLm)

67 American business isn't hiring in part because they automate rather than put up with stuff like this.   The next thing you know, SEIU will be trying to organize the robots.  Uh oh.  Better look into this. 

Posted by: Skynet at February 09, 2011 07:37 AM (3ll0O)

68 But God would it be nice to have someone in the White House kicking the unions, the lawyers, the layabouts, the banksters, and the rent seekers in the nuts day after day.

Posted by: Warden at February 09, 2011 11:29 AM (V6HDd)

If we want to win, we have to get as serious about winning as the left.

Why, for example, isn't the Republican house talking about some sort of "windfall" tax against the entertainment industry? Or how about a top to bottom investigation? If you want to talk about business corruption in America there is no question as to what industry is the worst offender - nepotism, casting couches, "tax evasion", fraud, etc...

And the next Republican president should instruct the FBI to form a specific task force to look at how tightly integrated labor unions are with organized crime...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2011 07:38 AM (7BU4a)

69 Ya know, I beginning to get the impression that the POTUS is a dick!

Posted by: Independent #1 at February 09, 2011 07:38 AM (LdYLm)

70

" Something different each day.  So what happens when the tipping point's reached, and pushback starts?"

And all this stuff is coming within a couple of months of an election that was one of the clearest rejections of liberalism ever, if not the clearest. The messasge could not have been a whole lot more crystal.

Can you imagine what things will look like say, 5 years down the road if he is re-relected?

The only silver lining is that this constant *&%$storm of miserable legislation, regulations and initiatives will hopefully keep people motivated. He will try and keep everyone placated by seeming to triangulate and will receive cover from the MFM. But these leftists, they can't help themselves. Their true colors always come out if you just look. 


 

Posted by: RM at February 09, 2011 07:38 AM (GkYyh)

71

OT- Jim Webb not running for Senate. Retiring after 1 term.

Posted by: Have Blue at February 09, 2011 07:39 AM (mV+es)

72 Interesting.  If Mark Warner runs for higher office, and he will, that would open up both VA senate seats for 2 probable GOP wins.

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2011 07:40 AM (3ll0O)

73

OT- Jim Webb not running for Senate. Retiring after 1 term.

Posted by: Have Blue at February 09, 2011 11:39 AM (mV+es)

heh, hello senator maccaca!

Posted by: robtr nickless liberation front at February 09, 2011 07:41 AM (hVDig)

74 heh, hello senator maccaca!

We can do better. 

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2011 07:41 AM (3ll0O)

75 This is all just the biggest heist in history, the wealthiest nation in the world is being plundered.

Posted by: t-bird at February 09, 2011 07:42 AM (FcR7P)

76 63 Webb won't seek reelection

Warning:  Politico

Virginia Senator Jim Webb plans to announce today that he won't seek reelection, a senior Senate source said.

Webb retiring isn't really a surprise, IMHO.  He only won thanks to the WaPo relentlessly campaigning for him and Allen using an obscure slur on a Webb campaign aide who was shadowing him.

The chances of him winning re-election was slim, so the Dems will try a Hail Mary by putting Tim Kaine in as a replacement.  It won't work.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 09, 2011 07:43 AM (iBaup)

77 The scariest thing about Obama is that he tells business people that they have an obligation to hire and spread the wealth around, and he really doesn't see what is wrong with that.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2011 07:43 AM (8jQbF)

78

I saw a piece online within the last couple of weeks, it was a story on demographics, and which countries are growing & have young populations, and which countries are getting older.

Russia is one of those countries that is getting older, and is losing population. A hundred years of communism has squashed the life out of people's spirits.  There are more abortions in Russia than live births.  Alcoholism is rampant. 

Moscow still has a sizeable population, but the countryside is depopulating.  A photo illustrating the story was of a farming community someplace in Russia. The elderly farmer was still using oxen & horses to plow the fields.  It's like nothing has changed in the hundred years since communism took over.  Still living in the stone age.

That's the progressive vision for the whole world.  

 

Posted by: Boots at February 09, 2011 07:46 AM (neKzn)

79 Relax, wingnuts.  There's absolutly no truth to the rumor that I'm replacing beer summits with a vodka a vote initiatives.

Posted by: BarryO at February 09, 2011 07:46 AM (d9QQP)

80

Monty at 36 - Businesses do not even exist to provide services and products. They exist to make money for the owner. Providing a service or a product is the means to that end. To butcher Adam Smith, "The butcher and the baker are in it for there own self interest."

Someone (I think here) said that the idea that the purpose of business was to provide jobs was the equivalant of thinking the purpose of restuarants was promote bowel movements. Both are a side effect. (Though in Taco Bells case ...)

Posted by: Have Blue at February 09, 2011 07:46 AM (mV+es)

81 Alternate Democrat Party solution to unemployment: Punish businesses and then wonder why they aren't hiring.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2011 07:48 AM (8jQbF)

82 81 Alternate Democrat Party solution to unemployment: Punish businesses and then wonder why they aren't hiring.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 09, 2011 11:48 AM (8jQbF)

Donkey-punch the Mofos! That's what my commie trainer taught me!

Posted by: Barack at February 09, 2011 07:51 AM (LdYLm)

83 Of course business exists to make money for individuals. By doing so legally, morally and ethically, (aka rational self interest, a take away from a recently reread book), everyone benefits. Speaking from only my awareness level, that is eminently logical.  Never have understood the idea of penalizing those who do business from the rational self interest way.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 09, 2011 07:55 AM (ud5dN)

84 Sheesh people! Give the guy a break! He's got the weight of the world on his shoulders-and he quit smoking! (Like I fuckin' believe that BS)

Posted by: Pecos Bill at February 09, 2011 08:00 AM (j84s0)

85

Monty at 36 - Businesses do not even exist to provide services and products. They exist to make money for the owner. Providing a service or a product is the means to that end. To butcher Adam Smith, "The butcher and the baker are in it for there own self interest."

I agree with Monty's post with this well stated exception. I'm a small business owner; and the minute the product I provide is no longer profitable for me and there is no reasonable way to turn things around, I'm outta there.

Sounds harsh, and I truly do enjoy my work, and respect and care about my clients, employees, etc. But that is the bottom line.

Posted by: RM at February 09, 2011 08:01 AM (GkYyh)

86 21  I guess Lenin was right: capitalists will manufacture the rope with which they will be hanged.

And Obammy will be using TARP funds to purchase it.

Posted by: DelD at February 09, 2011 08:05 AM (oAZ1S)

87 In an unprecedented and controversial move, I have established a secret Department of Suspicion in my office. If I suspect you are the kind of whiny cocksucker that will complain to the DOL about my profane tirades, you're fired. Needlessly reminding me that your "eyes are up here," is an obvious precursor to trouble - you're fired. Don't like it when I rifle through your lunch? Get your own fridge. In fact, get your own fridge in your own office, you're fired. Don't like it when I fire your co-workers in a capricious and arbitrary manner? Oh man, that would have really struck a chord with me if you still worked here.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at February 09, 2011 08:10 AM (+lsX1)

88 The thing is, I wish he were a socialist, but he's not.  He's a grifter.

He doesn't want to help the poor, he wants to hurt the rich, and take a little power and money for himself in the process.

His ethos is mirrored in the notion of the punitive damage.

The theory of the punitive damage award is that the company or person should be punished so that whatever he did, he will not do it again.

But then, why should the victim -- already compensated for loss -- be the beneficiary of the award?  Well, not so much the victim as the victim's lawyer.

He's a leach and parasite and he only likes leeches and parasites like unions and lawyers.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 09, 2011 08:23 AM (T0NGe)

89

I was on a city bus years ago in Chicago, and one of the local coffeehouse communist groups had placed posters all over the back of the bus......40 hours pay for 30 hours labor!!!!!  Join us!!!!  And then gave the date of the next meetup for plotting commie strategy. 

 

Posted by: Boots at February 09, 2011 08:33 AM (neKzn)

90 Labor needs these schemes because they can no longer get new members honestly anymore. There was a poll a few years back, 80% of those polled do not want to be working in a union shop, they just do not see the need for them anymore.

Labor movement this day and age is really only about benefiting the top tier bosses and union presidents. I read a story from another poster that the union shop she worked at went on strike and the Union prez, then showed up to the strike via his G3 private jet. The woman said fuck it and went back to work.

Obama is not only a failed President, but he will in turn damage his entire party for the next 25-50 years.

Posted by: Gary B at February 09, 2011 08:37 AM (1gWfF)

91 Obama is basically doing to the USA what Mayor Coleman Young and others did to Detroit. Yet after ruining the city, we still have people who worship him like He is some sort of god.

Except here much of the luster of the campaign has long wore off. You can just figure out from his self-centered Olympic bid speech that he is really only in it for himself. He did not talk about his hometown, it's great sports culture. No it was give us the games so my daughters can see the world in their backyard. When I heard him say that line, I just cringed.

Posted by: Gary B at February 09, 2011 08:41 AM (1gWfF)

92

This is one more reason why every conservative needs to go Gault as much as possible. We need to stop spending money, bury it in your backyard if you have to just don't spend it.

We really need to put the screws to the left. Their entire lifestyle has always depended on conservatives and the mushy middle just putting their heads down and plodding away like the plow horses in Animal Farm. Well I for one don't want to get hauled off to the glue factory when I get older.

We need to take drastic action to make sure Obama and the rest of the leftist scum that surrounds him never get a second chance to ruin this country. While it maybe very painful in the short term it is vitally important that we crash the economy just to make it crystal clear to alot of people that leftist policies only lead to ruin. We just need to be ready to beat them down brutally when they try and sieze power by force.

Once we have beaten them we need to root them out of every part of society where they have had any influence at all (schools, media, government). Only then can we start to rebuild.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at February 09, 2011 08:47 AM (TC4J/)

93 I am sincerely worried that this administration is going to infect our system so deeply that we won't be able to save it. This isn't about pro or anti business, this is just pro crony. Our home has several photos of the family visiting DC ten years ago. Every day I worry that these pictures are going to some day represent a fallen country to my grandchildren. I fear for my country.

Posted by: Amo at February 09, 2011 08:48 AM (v85We)

94 Barack Obama: Liar, Marxist, Traitor.

Posted by: ObamaHasNoSoul at February 09, 2011 09:00 AM (BXqkH)

95 one of the local coffeehouse communist groups had placed posters all over the back of the bus......40 hours pay for 30 hours labor!!!!!  Join us!!!!

Must have been a govt employee union of some sort.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 09, 2011 09:21 AM (vOE73)

96

I own a business.  We recently fired an employee for basically not showing up to work repeatedly.  He filed for unemployment.  We filed all the evidence they requested and he was denied by the state agency.  Slam dunk.  However, there is a free appeals process in place that goes to the court system.  So, of course he appeals.  So now I have to retain my lawyer and go to court to give testimony under oath.  Same exact info I gave last time by fax.  It will cost me several hundreds of dollars and probably half a day to re-win this case.  Thanks to LauraW, now I know what the little douchebag will do next.  Why not?  Its free right?

Most people have no idea the amount of financial risk that smaller business owners assume every day.  Between Obamacare (not just the hated 1099 provisions), extra regulations, higher taxes, and shit like this, lots of folks like me are saying "Why the hell am I doing this?"

Posted by: Will Up North at February 09, 2011 10:53 AM (KjlbF)

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From up here in Canada, it is like watching a Slow Motion Train Wreck as Obama collides & vaporizes whatever is left of your "free market economy"...if he is re-elected and you become stuck with him for another 5-6 years, then the USA will have definitely "jumped the shark" and there will be "nothin left but the cryin".

Posted by: the forgotten man at February 09, 2011 12:25 PM (yd08d)

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