June 01, 2011
— DrewM

Hero.
An Army Ranger who lost his right hand and suffered shrapnel wounds after throwing a grenade away from his fellow soldiers will receive the Medal of Honor July 12, the White House announced Tuesday.Sgt. 1st Class Leroy Arthur Petry will be the second living Medal of Honor recipient from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Petry, like Staff Sgt. Salvatore Giunta, who received the nationÂ’s highest award for valor in November, will be honored for actions while serving in Afghanistan.
Petry, 31, will be recognized for his actions during combat operations May 26, 2008, in Paktya, Afghanistan.
The action for which SFC Petry will be decorated occurred in May of 2008.
The Army News Service said Petry and another soldier came under fire as they searched a courtyard. Petry was shot through both legs and the other soldier also was wounded, the news service said. When another sergeant arrived to assess their wounds, insurgents threw a grenade that exploded and wounded that sergeant and the other soldier again.As two more Rangers tried to reach them, another grenade landed beside the three wounded men, the news service said. Petry grabbed it and tried to throw it away from the others, but it exploded as he released it, blowing off his right hand. He placed a tourniquet around the injury and radioed for help.
The two unhurt Rangers engaged the enemy, but one was killed in the firefight. The two wounded men with Petry then opened fire and killed the last attacker, the Army News Service said.
"If not for Staff Sgt. Petry's actions, we would have been seriously wounded or killed," Higgins later wrote in a report cited by the Army News Service.
3 years to get to this point? I'm pretty sure the first Medals of Honor were awarded before December 7, 1944. Something is terribly wrong with how we are handling the process to recognize our servicemen and women (yes, it's "we" who are responsible. In our system the military, like all government agencies answer to the people, therefore we are ultimately responsible for how it acts).
While I'm very glad that the military is no longer treating the Medal of Honor as an exclusively posthumous award, they are still be very, very stingy about awarding it. Yes, I know the Medal is not something to be handed out like candy but we've been in two wars for the better part of a decade. Petry will be just the ninth recipient as part of the War on Terror.
I'm very confident that there are more individuals who deserve to be recognized with the Medal of Honor. This isn't simply about recognizing extraordinary individuals. A cadre of Medal of Honor recipients (especially surviving ones) will be an important resource, link and example for future generations of soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines to all the heroes of the last 10 plus years.
Men like SFC Petry don't do what they do for medals or recognition but that doesn't mean we shouldn't ensure they all know how thankful we are to them and amazed by what they do.
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Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 01, 2011 08:02 AM (NtTkA)
A true hero: thank you for your service and example.
Posted by: Supervisor 194 at June 01, 2011 08:02 AM (qpstS)
Posted by: Bill R. at June 01, 2011 08:03 AM (EhlQq)
He's humbled.
That says everything I need to know about this man.
Wow. We are indeed lucky and blessed to have these men fighting for us.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 01, 2011 08:04 AM (LH6ir)
That's "soldier", not "solider".
Sgt. Giunta left the Army. I am not sure why, but it relieves a green second lieutenant from the burden of giving orders to a MOH recipient. And, as a matter of military courtesy, saluting him first.
Note that all these Rangers kept moving up, into the zone of fire. One after another, wounded, moving up, wounded, kept firing, wounded, bandaged themselves and each other.
As somebody said, these guys, when they pass, will be one pace to the left of The Throne, and slightly behind.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at June 01, 2011 08:07 AM (wxHHM)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 01, 2011 08:10 AM (yQWNf)
On another note. Just saw this in the news. Another bad ass soldier doing what needed to be done. Wish we had more of them.
http://tinyurl.com/3txy9y3
Posted by: Greg at June 01, 2011 08:13 AM (3KpsL)
May God bless and protect all our troops wherever they serve.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 01, 2011 08:14 AM (yrGif)
That's "soldier", not "solider".
Sgt. Giunta left the Army. I am not sure why, but it relieves a green second lieutenant from the burden of giving orders to a MOH recipient. And, as a matter of military courtesy, saluting him first.
Note that all these Rangers kept moving up, into the zone of fire. One after another, wounded, moving up, wounded, kept firing, wounded, bandaged themselves and each other.
As somebody said, these guys, when they pass, will be one pace to the left of The Throne, and slightly behind.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at June 01, 2011 12:07 PM (wxHHM)
I... was going to comment, but you nailed it. Nothing more to add.
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 08:16 AM (x3YFz)
On another note. Just saw this in the news. Another bad ass soldier doing what needed to be done. Wish we had more of them.
http://tinyurl.com/3txy9y3
Posted by: Greg at June 01, 2011 12:13 PM (3KpsL)
"I've been through five deployments. I've fought the Muqtada militia, everybody you can think of, so weapons getting pointed at me, it doesn't really bother me anymore," he said. "I took the weapon away from him and put him on the ground and the rest was history."
Awesome!
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 08:18 AM (x3YFz)
I don't believe we are overly stingy with the MOH.
There are plenty of awards being handed out for gallant action in combat. There is simply not enough recognition from the media unless it is something like the MOH. Frankly, there is not enough in general about the actions undertaken by heroes on our behalf reported by the media. They would rather talk about how great it is that Obama can match his own socks.
Posted by: Marcus at June 01, 2011 08:19 AM (CHrmZ)
I don't believe we are overly stingy with the MOH.
There are plenty of awards being handed out for gallant action in combat. There is simply not enough recognition from the media unless it is something like the MOH. Frankly, there is not enough in general about the actions undertaken by heroes on our behalf reported by the media. They would rather talk about how great it is that Obama can match his own socks.
Posted by: Marcus at June 01, 2011 12:19 PM (CHrmZ)
He can?
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 08:21 AM (x3YFz)
Such a shame that the man who will award this outstanding soldier the honor has more in common with his enemy than the soldier himself. Assuming he can tear himself away from the golf course.
Posted by: maddogg at June 01, 2011 08:21 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: SGT Dan at June 01, 2011 08:25 AM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: Iron Balls McGinty at June 01, 2011 08:25 AM (/7n/7)
Such a shame that the man who will award this outstanding soldier the honor has more in common with his enemy than the soldier himself. Assuming he can tear himself away from the golf course.
Posted by: maddogg at June 01, 2011 12:21 PM (OlN4e)
If I was Petry I'd request that the award be presented by the Army Chief of Staff... or better yet, the SMA.
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 08:25 AM (x3YFz)
--It's also a lame parallel, but living MOH recipients would also serve as useful input into who should and would receive future medals (just like former Heisman winners have votes for the present trophy).
Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2011 08:25 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: JohnW at June 01, 2011 08:26 AM (GmYTP)
15Frankly, there is not enough in general about the actions undertaken by heroes on our behalf reported by the media.
Bingo. More importantly, so many of our "countrymen" are so self absorbed and sheltered that they would not want to hear about it even if they did maintain focus.
Posted by: PBoilermaker at June 01, 2011 08:27 AM (jU2vI)
Yeah, I think we can draw the line at ridiculous comments like this. Whether on purpose or not you actually just demeaned a hero.
Posted by: Marcus at June 01, 2011 08:27 AM (CHrmZ)
The Medal of Honor did not begin with the Second World War. It was first awarded during the Civil War.
I am thankful that we have men and women in the service of our country who exhibit the bravery that has long characterized this Medal.
When I was a cadet at Texas A&M University, I walked frequently past the portraits of Medal of Honor winners at what was then then Memorial Student Center. (early 70´s). We also had the inscription there "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."John 15:13. I can not think of any phrase that better characterizes the honor of our brave soldiers..
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 08:29 AM (j0bb0)
Posted by: Iron Balls McGinty at June 01, 2011 12:25 PM (/7n/7)
think. then post. I'm guilty of inverting the two occasionally, but on this topic you should probably tread a little more carefully.
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 08:30 AM (x3YFz)
I don't believe we are overly stingy with the MOH.
There are plenty of awards being handed out for gallant action in combat. There is simply not enough recognition from the media unless it is something like the MOH. Frankly, there is not enough in general about the actions undertaken by heroes on our behalf reported by the media. They would rather talk about how great it is that Obama can match his own socks.
Posted by: Marcus at June 01, 2011 12:19 PM (CHrmZ)
Nonsense. He has staff to do that. The media gets tingly when he picks makes his NCAA picks, or orders shrimp.
God bless these brave men. I pray in '12 we elect a CiC worthy of the military.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 08:31 AM (UOM48)
There were 4 MoH awarded for actions on D-Day alone and it's only that low because there was a rule in place at the time that there could only be one awarded per division. That's likely why the LT Winters (Band of Brothers) didn't get it for the action at Brecourt Manor.
There's got to be a happy medium between 9 in 2 wars over 10 years and handing them out like participation medals.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 01, 2011 08:34 AM (Fz+L5)
Privileges and courtesies
The Medal of Honor confers special privileges on its recipients. By law, recipients have several benefits:
Each Medal of Honor recipient may have his or her name entered on the Medal of Honor Roll (38 U.S.C. § 1560). Each person whose name is placed on the Medal of Honor Roll is certified to the United States Department of Veterans Affairs as being entitled to receive a monthly pension above and beyond any military pensions or other benefits for which they may be eligible. The pension is subject to cost-of-living increases; as of 2011, it is more than $1,100 a month.
Enlisted recipients of the Medal of Honor are entitled to a supplemental uniform allowance.
Recipients receive special entitlements to air transportation under the provisions of DOD Regulation 4515.13-R.
Special identification cards and commissary and exchange privileges are provided for Medal of Honor recipients and their eligible dependents.
Eligibility for interment at Arlington National Cemetery if not otherwise eligible.
Fully qualified children of recipients are eligible for admission to the United States military academies without regard to the nomination and quota requirements.
Recipients receive a 10 percent increase in retired pay under 10 U.S.C. § 3991.
Those awarded the medal after October 23, 2002, receive a Medal of Honor Flag. The law also specified that all 103 living prior recipients as of that date would also receive a flag. (14 U.S.C. § 505).
Recipients receive an invitation to all future presidential inaugurations and inaugural balls.
As with all medals, retired personnel may wear the Medal of Honor on "appropriate" civilian clothing. Regulations also specify that recipients of the Medal of Honor are allowed to wear the uniform "at their pleasure" with standard restrictions on political, commercial, or extremist purposes; other former members of the armed forces may do so only at certain ceremonial occasions.
Many states offer distinctive Medal of Honor vehicle license plates to recipients without additional charges or fees.
If you think they're being stingy about handing these out, I think they have to consider the length of our combat role in those regions. No doubt we'd have hundreds of recipients otherwise.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at June 01, 2011 08:34 AM (9eDbm)
The Medal of Honor did not begin with the Second World War. It was first awarded during the Civil War.
I am thankful that we have men and women in the service of our country who exhibit the bravery that has long characterized this Medal.
When I was a cadet at Texas A&M University, I walked frequently past the portraits of Medal of Honor winners at what was then then Memorial Student Center. (early 70´s). We also had the inscription there "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."John 15:13. I can not think of any phrase that better characterizes the honor of our brave soldiers..
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 12:29 PM (j0bb0)
I was able to visit the pentagon when I was an MTI years ago. We got a VIP tour, so there was no one else around. When we went into the Hall of Heroes the tour moved on and I found myself alone in that room. I can't describe it. I'll never forget those 15 minutes. I read every name.
This was right after Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon received their medals. It took me about another 10 minutes in the head to "get my uniform in order" before I could rejoin the tour.
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 08:35 AM (x3YFz)
Sorry for the cheap joke.
Sgt. Petry is from my (former) state of New Mexico, which has a long and proud tradition of military service. God bless the sergeant and all the other brave men and women serving in our military.
Posted by: huerfano at June 01, 2011 08:39 AM (BeusG)
Posted by: The smallest weiner at June 01, 2011 08:41 AM (YxyYj)
A true American hero. Took a bullet, lost his hand in an attempt to throw a grenade back to save his comrades, stayed calm and in control and lead without regard to his own well being.
God bless this man.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 01, 2011 08:42 AM (UK9cE)
Once you get that medal, if you are still alive, your career in the military is generally over. Everyone in the military salutes you, from the head of the joint chiefs on down. Fitting such an individual into a military unit is damned near impossible, as he can, at that point, do almost no wrong.
Posted by: Kristopher at June 01, 2011 08:42 AM (atS82)
Marine/Special Ops/ CIA Mike Spann was questioning prisoners in Nov 2001. Spann asked the prisoners who they were and why they joined the Taliban. They massed around him. 'Why are you here?' Spann asked one. 'To kill you,' came the reply as the man lunged at Spann's neck
Pretty much sums up the WOT
Posted by: Cherry π at June 01, 2011 08:46 AM (+sBB4)
Posted by: DrewM. at June 01, 2011 12:34 PM (Fz+L5)
That's the problem. If you are going to award this honor for legitimately heroic acts that go above and beyond the many heroic acts performed on a daily basis by our men and women in the military, it should not need to be a strictly academic, quota-based decision.
I respect all fellow combat veterans and servicemembers and I have seen/heard of many acts which would, in many peoples' eyes, be deserving of the MoH. Then again, I understand that there is a difference between a heroic act and one that goes a step beyond to become MoH-worthy. It is, when you get right down to it, a situational/subjective assessment in many regards with a large administrative component. However, if our collective definition of MoH-worthy acts is in line with the award criteria and that criteria is met, it should be honored whether it is high in number or not posthumous.
Outside of all of that, it is always good to see someone who truly deserves the recognition getting that recognition I salute SFC Petry.
Posted by: PBoilermaker at June 01, 2011 08:48 AM (jU2vI)
Sorry for the cheap joke.
Not really a cheap shot.
Given the 70 rounds he's played since taking office, it's a legitimate question.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 01, 2011 08:48 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 08:49 AM (0Snra)
Genuine badass. The stuff of legend. Pick up an enemy grenade, get your hand blown off, tourniquet yourself, then radio for help.
Bless you Sgt Petry.
Posted by: The Jackhole at June 01, 2011 08:49 AM (+qHxi)
I would think that he was following his training and his heart, doing something like that is spur of the moment I've been in firefights and I would have given all my guys a MoH in every one of them, when you are in a dire situation anything can happen.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 08:56 AM (0Snra)
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 08:56 AM (j0bb0)
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 08:57 AM (j0bb0)
He also said that the guy would come back to the post most nights drunk, and nobody ever said a word. The feeling was that he was entitled to a bit of slack.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 01, 2011 08:58 AM (LH6ir)
As I said I served with two of them and they were just regular good Soldiers no slack in them actually I think it made them better.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:00 AM (0Snra)
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 09:01 AM (j0bb0)
Sorry for the cheap joke.
Not really a cheap shot.
Given the 70 rounds he's played since taking office, it's a legitimate question.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 01, 2011 12:48 PM (UK9cE)
--He bolted right after laying the wreath at Arlington to hit the links.
Douche3
Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2011 09:01 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 12:58 PM (j0bb0)
LOL. soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines. That covers it all.
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 09:03 AM (x3YFz)
--He bolted right after laying the wreath at Arlington to hit the links.
Douche3
Posted by: logprof at June 01, 2011 01:01 PM (BP6Z1)
I didn't see the ceremony, but heard he had more of an "I've got somewhere better to be" attitude through the whole thing. Pure rumor, but given his previous actions over the past 3 years, I do not doubt it ONE BIT.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 01, 2011 09:03 AM (UK9cE)
I don't completely disagree. But I believe the circumstances under which the MoH is awarded have been fairly consistent over the years.
I personally believe it was under-awarded in Vietnam. But they kept the relatively low rate of award after WWII (and arguably Korea) pretty consistent.
And Winter's was robbed. Brecourt Manor still has some actions that are used as textbook examples.
Posted by: Marcus at June 01, 2011 09:04 AM (CHrmZ)
Posted by: ontherocks at June 01, 2011 09:09 AM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 09:10 AM (UOM48)
OT, but a good chunk of the northeast is under a tornado watch through this evening, from NJ up to Maine (including my whole state of NH). I wouldn't mention it, but given the craziness related to tornadoes recently, its best for everyone to be prepared.
Posted by: MWR at June 01, 2011 09:11 AM (4df7R)
As glorious as these individuals may be, all of his brothers along side him are just as Brave and remarkable in combat.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:11 AM (0Snra)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 01:06 PM (0Snra)
I'm sure him doing nothing to ensure their votes would be counted absentee didn't help, either. I mean, besides the fact he hates them and wants them to be under full control of the UN.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 01, 2011 09:13 AM (UK9cE)
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Posted by: Greg at June 01, 2011 09:13 AM (3KpsL)
As glorious as these individuals may be, all of his brothers along side him are just as Brave and remarkable in combat.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 01:11 PM (0Snra)
I'm guessing there was more than 1 medal awarded for that action.
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 09:14 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:14 AM (0Snra)
#58.
In all honesty, I have never spent any time around any liberals ever, thank God. But how can anybody be a functioning human being in the USA and not know how to pronounce corpsman?
Oh wait, I think I just answered my own question.
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 09:15 AM (j0bb0)
"We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us."
Attribute it to whomever you like, it's a great and fitting quote.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 01, 2011 09:16 AM (5d6vv)
In all honesty, I have never spent any time around any liberals ever, thank God. But how can anybody be a functioning human being in the USA and not know how to pronounce corpsman?
Oh wait, I think I just answered my own question.
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 01:15 PM (j0bb0)
The rules change when you hate your country.
Remember, libs don't want the US to exist. They want a 'one world' society where everyone dances in fields and sings kumbaya all day. They hate a strong and independent America and will stop at nothing to destroy it.
That's why they all love France so much. They're uppity and think they know better and socialism "spreads the wealth around, so it's good for everybody."
Just like JEF.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 01, 2011 09:19 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 01:14 PM (0Snra)
One undeniably great thing about America is those that wear our uniform make uncommon valor not that uncommon.
Posted by: tangonine at June 01, 2011 09:19 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 01:06 PM (0Snra)
They think correctly. His one actual documented accomplishment will be to push the boundaries of suck to the furtherest limits of the 3 physical dimensions and 8 additional postulated dimensions.
Posted by: maddogg at June 01, 2011 09:19 AM (OlN4e)
I'd dearly love to have the chance to ask him, Why??
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 01, 2011 09:22 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Pariuri Online at June 01, 2011 09:23 AM (DdJ4B)
They think correctly. His one actual documented accomplishment will be to push the boundaries of suck to the furtherest limits of the 3 physical dimensions and 8 additional postulated dimensions.
Posted by: maddogg at June 01, 2011 01:19 PM (OlN4e)
The "Blue Falcon in Chief".
Posted by: PBoilermaker at June 01, 2011 09:24 AM (jU2vI)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:24 AM (0Snra)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at June 01, 2011 09:24 AM (epBek)
No criticism was implied. On the contrary, I agree that the guy deserved the slack. And...my dad told me that he came back drunk, but was always respectful of the uniform. He wasn't sloppy or loud or obnoxious. He just liked to get hammered.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 01, 2011 09:25 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Pariuri Online at June 01, 2011 09:26 AM (DdJ4B)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 01, 2011 09:27 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 09:29 AM (j0bb0)
I agree with Marcus, the media gives our Heroes no credit, no attention.
Every one always says we need real heroes.
We don't. We already have them. They wear the uniform of the US CG, Army, Navy, Marines.
For those that served, or are serving, thank you.
For those whose loved ones have/are served, thank you, too.
Posted by: momma at June 01, 2011 09:32 AM (penCf)
When I was a young super duper Airborne Trooper I never thought in in my wildest dreams that I would become part of the phrase that "Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away" I will always be a Soldier.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:32 AM (0Snra)
A little dated, but this is a good analysis I read awhile ago.
Posted by: Marcus at June 01, 2011 09:32 AM (DrChn)
Posted by: catmman at June 01, 2011 09:36 AM (DTzwU)
Agreed, but recognition of of the indomitable spirit of the individual flies in the face of the plans that collectivists like Barky have for this country.
But certainly all of them are under appreciated by a lot of
(mostly the leftys) Americans.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 01, 2011 09:37 AM (HBqDo)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:39 AM (0Snra)
#82
Although my association with the military was in my early adulthood, and I am now in my late 50´s, (more than 35 years ago) I have always been a Marine at heart. I appreciate the men and women who believe in something bigger than themselves (as opposed to despicable public figures who think it is all about themselves).
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 09:41 AM (j0bb0)
I don't know what stops me from smacking some of these youngsters today when I'm out and about and happen to hear their conversations, we didn't say things about the military like that when I was young and stupid.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:44 AM (0Snra)
Posted by: jeff at June 01, 2011 09:45 AM (yztCu)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at June 01, 2011 09:48 AM (0Snra)
#89.
Since I do not live in the USA at this time, I do not run into the situation you are talking about. But...
The last time I went to the States I was looking for people who had voted for Obama just so I could give them a piece of my mind, and no one would own up to voting for him, except my step father and he was super repentant for voting for him. He is an old time Democrat (WWII veteran) that had to learn the hard way that today´s Democrat party is not the party of Roosevelt.
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 09:51 AM (j0bb0)
Oh, Drewsie, I'm sure you'll figure out a proper use of the heroism and deaths of servicemen to score a political point.
Posted by: weiner's weener...get it? hehe at June 01, 2011 09:52 AM (DZboX)
Posted by: Harry at June 01, 2011 01:51 PM (j0bb0)
Take a fresh look at Roosevelt. Harry Hopkins his closest adviser liked Uncle Joe ....... a lot.
Posted by: ontherocks at June 01, 2011 10:07 AM (HBqDo)
As a civilian I can see why the process is so slow.
All the REMFs have to justify their existence.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at June 01, 2011 10:19 AM (KVi4X)
Posted by: polynikes-Romney supporter at June 01, 2011 10:22 AM (9zDBm)
Posted by: David 173rd Airborne Task Force Black at June 01, 2011 10:25 AM (nvxxj)
One of my cousins, an elderly nun, was being transfered into the old nun's home, so my wife and I invited her over for a nice family dinner. Sister comes into the house and in her inimitable manner sys, "Here, this is for you," and hands me a small package.
I open it and there are several leather cases with US ARMY embossed on the front.
I open the first one, Purple Heart, the second one, another Purple Heart, and the third one?
Bronze Star.
They were her brother's who was killed in World War II in France.
I teared up.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at June 01, 2011 10:29 AM (KVi4X)
Posted by: © Sponge at June 01, 2011 01:03 PM (UK9cE)
Wasn't this his infamous speech where he said "The U.S. military is one of the best in the world"?
And, Sgt. Petry, G-d Bless You.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 01, 2011 10:30 AM (Ew27I)
Posted by: polynikes-Romney supporter at June 01, 2011 10:39 AM (9zDBm)
From the link you gave me:
Moreover, most of the casualties are from roadside bombs, not what we typically think of as combat. That said, if we were fighting World War II with today's troops and equipment, we probably would have had one MoH for every 800 or so dead. So, even by the fairly strict standards of World War II, there would be about twice as many MoHs during the last five years of fighting. That translates to another four, MoHs.
Another 4 MOHs is 50% of what we have so we're actually lagging behind WWII rates by a fairly significant margin.
Also, I'd say there reliance on combat deaths isn't really the way to go. Yeah, today enemy relies on roadside bombs but WWII enemies had ways to kill today's don't (artillery, air power, ships, etc). I get you have to use some standard but I'm not sure that's the way to go. But again, even then we are still lagging behind.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 01, 2011 11:01 AM (Fz+L5)
Posted by: Brian at June 01, 2011 11:06 AM (NK/s7)
55, when an Internet campaign started after the "Band of Brothers" hysteria to get Major Winters' DSC upgraded to the Medal of Honor, Winters put out a statement and stopped that shit pretty quick. He wanted neither the Medal nor the attention.
84, my Bronze Star recommendation was kicked back from 4th ID's HQ with a note to resubmit as an Army Commendation Medal (think that was my third). I was pissed at the time. My CSM apologized, and meant it. Not his fault.
103, then-1LT, now-Major Chontosh earned the Navy Cross for that engagement, which is certainly nothing to sneeze at.
Posted by: SGT Dan at June 01, 2011 11:20 AM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: polynikes-Romney supporter at June 01, 2011 11:33 AM (9zDBm)
Posted by: BlackRedneck at June 01, 2011 01:00 PM (uE3l5)
My father was an Infantry platoon leader in the ETO. In his opinion, anybody who took one step forward deserves a medal.
You'll note that, on Army uniforms, the CIB comes below the MOH, if any, and above anything else. There's a reason for that.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at June 01, 2011 02:25 PM (wxHHM)
"... Army Air Force officials, led by Major General Curtis LeMay and Brigadier General Lauris Norstad approved Erwin's award of the Medal of Honor in a matter of hours, so a presentation could be made while he still lived. A medal was flown to Guam and presented to him in the hospital there...."
Read it all. Prepare to be humbled and weep at the sheer courage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_E._Erwin
Posted by: Awed at June 01, 2011 04:38 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: Iron Balls McGinty
I take a back seat to no one in my dislike and disdain for Obama. But, with all due respect, Iron Balls... Fuck you.
You could not be more wrong to disparage Guinta's and Petry's courage like that.
Posted by: Awed at June 01, 2011 04:44 PM (u+8qs)
I can't do the description justice so if anyone knows who I am referring to please post because I would like to read the citation again. It involved a Humvee patrol being ambushed from a trench built across th road. He drove directly at the ambush, into the trench, got out and went down the trench killing as many of the enemy until his weapon no longer functioned, picked up an AK from one of the enemy and proceeded to keep on taking out those who stupidly chose to keep fighting this chuck norris ain't got nothing on him badass.
Posted by: polynikes-Romney supporter at June 01, 2011 02:22 PM (9zDBm)
Brian Chontash. "Over into the battlement the humvee went and out the door Brian Chontosh bailed, carrying an M16 and a Beretta and 228 years of Marine Corps pride. And he ran down the trench....When he was done Brian Chontosh had cleared 200 yards of entrenched Iraqis from his platoon's flank. He had killed more than 20 and wounded at least as many more...."
Watch this and just be thankful he's on our side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K1udLtRa7c
Posted by: Jask75 at June 01, 2011 04:59 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at June 01, 2011 05:08 PM (lHdTy)
Google "Army Regulation 670-1", it's the wear and appearance of Army uniforms reg.
Posted by: SGT Dan at June 01, 2011 07:12 PM (h1vJ/)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 02, 2011 07:59 AM (vA9ld)
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Thank God we still have men like this, willing to serve.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 01, 2011 07:59 AM (136wp)