1 Anyone who voted for this needs to go.

Clearly they have nothing but contempt for us.

2 1 Anyone who voted for this needs to go.

I think they vote tomorrow. 

3 I got dibs on the torch and pitchfork concession.

4 Over the cliff we go. Wheeeeeee!

5 Now hold on. This doesn't necessarily mean that Boehner is too stupid to dress himself.... It could also mean that he's corrupt.

6 Dibs on tar concession

7 Someone should have told the congress you never go full retard.

8 If you like your old Washington business as usual, you may keep your old Washington business as usual.

9 So, who do we yell at in the GOP?

10 I need to take a news break before I fucking lose my mind.

11
On your mark...
Get set.....
Terrible.

12 On the plus side, max out your credit cards, the Yellowstone caldera is even bigger than previously thought!

13 Lemming #1:"Hey were are we going in such a hurry?" Lemming #2: " I don't know but noone seems to be worried and everyone is having some fun so lets just go along."

14 It's a trillion foot cliff but we're only going over it for 3.52 feet

15 Yep, everybody should let their congresscritter know that the next few votes are damn important to their political lives, any yes votes on raising the debt ceiling need to go as well.

16 1/1,000th

Slick Willy couldn't feel that pain if it was on Monica's tonsils

17
it is laughable

18 You guys don't realize what a big fuckin deal this is.  We're getting the country back on track, trimming the fat, and we will win the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

19 We are officially USDA Grade AAA top-sirloin-fucked.

I had the naive belief that the only way to stop these cocksuckers is a national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.

20 @6 Dibs on tar concession

I guess that means I've gotta supply the feathers.

*sigh*

21
I can laugh because now I know I'm dreaming.

22

Yup.  I'm definitely done voting.  The political class cares nothing for us, no matter what letter they have after their name.

23 Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)


Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?

24

2012? Who cares?

Change!

25 The was this French guy that warned us about this vote buying business.

26 Heads need to role.  Primary challenges need to pop up.  And Mitt Romney needs to be mad.

27

I spent all day buying futures in tar, feathers and rope. I am looking forward to using the items I invested in real soon. Of course, I will have to pay taxes on the short terms gains, but it will be worth it. The only check I wrote to the IRS with a smile on my face.

We got butt fucked by our own party, and they sprinkled sand on the cock that was ramming us. Thanks Boner and Cantor.

We are so screwed.

28 I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?

29
And this dream I'm in is becoming predictable.

Tomorrow we'll learn that the deal, in fact, raises spending at least $5B.

Just watch.

30

I gotta bad feeling about today's events.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ominous, even.

31 Even if we win in 2012, the new president will have this shit sammich on his hands.  And he won't be able to do dick about it at the rate we're going.  Gotta go with the prevailing opinion: shut it down and keep it down for as long as possible.

32  they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.

Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)

Who you gonna call?

 

33
Only in a dream would a political party with momentum and the "right side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.

34 Drink!

35 This sounds like the Seppuku Gambit of 15-dimensional chess.

36 If you depend on government to survive, please die.

Oh, and fuck you.

37 So it is clear now right? Our votes don't matter at the national level.

38

Hal Rodgers has to go

Along with pretty much ENTIRE republican "leadership" in both fucking houses.  Kiss our asses already. Go back to being a part time job, which is a SACRIFICE you make to server your COUNTRY not your lust for power.  Congress is like Oracle.  You fucking service it, it doesn't service you.

39 You know how much debt the USA racked up this afternoon? About a billion dollars. So Boehner's big coup amounts to the amount of money we pissed away between 2:00 and 4:30 this afternoon. Bra-VO!

My DOOM train still has plenty of room for new passengers. Join my cult, kids. Get a free WE ARE SO BONED t-shirt! When I ask you to hold the FBI at bay at my mountain compound while I escape with all of your money, you'll understand that it's only a kind of tough love.

40

Only in a dream would a political party with momentum and the "right side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.

 

 

And only in a dream would said party get blamed as irrational extremists by the media.  Can red states just secede?

41
btw, last week a commenter used the "magic bean" analogy.

Spot on, whoever you are.

42 Only in a dream would a political party with momentum and the "right side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.

We're all on Chantix now.

43 Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending. End the Fed .

44 37 So it is clear now right? Our votes don't matter at the national level.         Lauren, our votes don't really matter on the state and local levels, either.

45

"Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?"

Soak it in lighter fluid first. Nice neck burns to go with the hanging!

46

F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.

2012? Who cares?

That's the spirit. Like I said earlier: If the worthless fucks in the GOP cared one damn bit about controlling the size and growth of government, they would have ended mandatory withholding yesterday.
That's the only way to bring this whole fucking scam to a screeching halt--when the taxpayers realize just how much damn money they are taking and then bribing you into compliance through a paltry-ass "refund" once a year, they'll scream bloody murder and run the worthless assholes out of town.

Who fucking cares indeed? It's not like one of those bastards do--they got theirs and fuck you for daring to question them.

47 the new president will have this shit sammich on his hands.

At least he (or she) will be able to blame all this shit on Barrack Hussein Obama

48 I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?

Don't address me in that tone. I chair the appropriations committee.

Now go fetch me a bucket of KFC.

49 Obama wants political war? OK, he's got it.

50 Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
 
Now we can see why PP, NPR, OCare and the EPA all came out unscathed. There were no cuts. There will be no cuts. They will keep blowing smoke up our asses until we all look like chimneys.

51 Is that a high-speed DOOM train Monty?

52 7 Someone should have told the congress you never go full retard. Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht No, we're going full retard.

53 Game over, man! Game over!

54 "Political theatre"  we've heard that phrase a lot since November, and today this is pretty apt.  This looks like a case of Hamlet in DC where we, all of us, are Hamlet... I leave it to everyone else to fill out the remaining cast.

55 I should probably update my passport.

56

2012? Who cares?

we all do, Ace, including you.  we're all fighting the best way we know how, or can.        do.not.give.up.

57 WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO STOP FUCKING US

58 Let's all uproot and move to Texas!  Build a wall and let the rest of the country go all Road Warrior.

59 > 23 Is six feet of rope too inflammatory? Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht My special Napalm/Thermite "skin salve" isn't too inflammatory in these circumstances!

60

French peasnants were at starvation levels for 14 years before somebody decided to storm the Bastille.

May as well pack it up, start storing food and ammo. We are not going to change anything simply by voting Republican.

61 Ace man, it looks like in your anger you forgot how to spell. I think you meant to say: FUCK.IT.ALL. I live in Cantor's district and the fucker has got to go. I swear I think when you get elected and go up there for your freshman indoctrination they give you a pill, red for R-Marxist and blue for D-Marxist but the point is, you get a pill that reprograms you into some Marxist beltway fucker. It has to come down so we can build it back. The past week has been kabuki by both sides. Boner and Cantywaste cannot be this stoopid. It's just impossible.

62 Said it before, gonna say it again. The answer will be the Federal Reserve printing presses. Embrace the fiat money. It's coming. It's right behind you. The Fed is already the primary buyer of Treasuries.

63 This is... remarkably uncivil rhetoric.

64 Alternate headline: Palin was right and way out in front of the issue...again. Do not lose hope ace. There are glimmers of hope out there like the Prosser win in a state Obama won with the left throwing all they had at it. Gear up for a last stand in 2012.

65

Biggest spending cut in history.

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink

66 Oh, and thanks, Nevada and California for Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer's re-election.  A-holes.

67 28 I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?

Posted by: Chuckit at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (G+sxF)

A lawyer.  Seriously, behind every asshole Republican is a JD.

68 what the government spends in about an hour and twenty minutes. ___ FUCK THEM ALL! (with all due respect)

69
I like John Boehner but he's in way over his head.

He's no Newt Gingrich. Yeah, Newt got rolled a little bit by Clinton, but Newt had balls and Newt was a leader.

The difference between Newt Gingrich and John Boehner is that Newt EARNED his Speakership; he fought for it and he deserved it.

John Boehner stumbled into the Speakership by happenstance -- he happened to be at the right place at the right time. But he did no heavy lifting to get the job. We GAVE him the job -- The TEA PARTY gave him and that fuck Hal Rogers their new jobs.

now I'm getting angry...

70

...If the worthless fucks in the GOP cared one damn bit about controlling the size and growth of government, they would have ended mandatory withholding yesterday. ...

Posted by: jimmuy at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (LkNeJ)

Cut. Jib. Newsletter. 

71 What we need now is a nasty Ewok image calling out Hal Rodgers.

72 Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?

No, but at this rate it'll be too fuckin' expensive soon.

73 I heard Rush discussing with a caller that the repubs don't do the right thing because they can't get elected if the press makes sure everyone hates them. My thought, we need patriots that will agree to one term. When you don't have to kiss ass to get elected you really can do the right thing.

74 I'll post it again - I sent this in an email to Ace in January. Hey, I have a bit of a different take on Bachmann and Demint. Probably not surprising as they align more closely to my view of politics than to yours I think, but hear me out. Aside from the fact that going to immediate freakout mode anytime the MSM is telling a story about a conservative that makes one think that the conservative is doing something negative is probably a bad idea...I don't presume that Bachmann's speech on TPE is about a "look at me" action - first of all, the TPE guys laid it on a couple of weeks before Ryan was announced as the response. I am sure that Bachmann wants people who are TPE fans to see her as she is a primary Tea Party kind of candidate - but her position, and related, that of Jim Demint, does not distract from a unified message - it *backstops* that message. Think about it, the GOP isn't known as the stupid party for nothing. It would not surprise me in the least if a John Boehner led House majority were to go into negotiations with a significantly weaker Democrat minority and get totally rolled. If they come to the table with $60B in cuts as their opening bid, they might come out from behind closed doors with a deal to not increase spending by quite as much next year as it might have been, and a promise to hold a vote on some symbolic cut or another before the Labor Day break, and hear them call it a huge victory. Let's just say I am part of the GOP's core constituency, and I don't have a lot of faith in them. Demint's $200B opening bid isn't going to happen - but its an opening bid. And I suspect that Bachmann's speech is in support of Demint's "plan" - and essentially gives the Tea Party Caucus stamp of approval to it. It is perhaps a message to the GOP, but I think it is a stronger message to the Democrats. Yeah, we can play that game, too. I don't think the Tea Party caucus types would balk at the $60B cut, at the end of the day, they would say its a great start and move on. But when negotiating with Democrats, the GOP can take the position, yeah, hey, you are going to have to give enough ground to make my right flank accept this, and if you don't, you are going to have to pitch in enough votes to make it happen. The GOP and Dems KNOW that won't happen - so they are going to have to let the majority win. If the GOP got rolled on it, they would be out in 2012 - there will be 3d party candidates and primaries that make 2010 look like an actual tea party with crumpets. So Bachmann et al. strengthen, not weaken, the mainstream GOP position.

75 I feel like there's zero chance now of actually reining in government spending and honestly don't know what to do.

So is bankruptcy a political strategy at this point? Do you vote for Emperor Zero in 2012 and root for the Dems burn it to the ground? Would default actually stop anything?

76 May as well pack it up, start storing food and ammo.

When you do, keep religion out of it, because if you don't, that would be cultic.

77 Engrave two tombstones. This weekend claimed both a country and the GOP. Death by suicide.

Time to start over. Wholesale purging of D.C. and every of its tentacles is an absolute need.

78 19 We are officially USDA Grade AAA top-sirloin-fucked.

I had the naive belief that the only way to stop these cocksuckers is a national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.

Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)

I really wonder, given the speed of the printing presses, why they bother taxing at all?

Ah, yes, the punishment factor.

79 All the more reason to work your rear ends off in 2012 for conservatives. That is what I plan on doing.

80 Oh, and COCK!!!

81 Mongo Republican leadership only pawn... in game of life.

82

It's clear to most, we must vote these cocksuckers out of office and replace them with patriots.  They fucked us, and we must return the fucking.  And with extreme prejudice.

83 Why Boehner, whatever do you mean? Maybe poker just isn't your game. I know, let's have a spelling contest.

84 And still you laugh at my 2012 portent...

85 I live in Cantor's district -- JD from William and Mary

I swear I think when you get elected and go up there for your freshman indoctrination they give you a pill, red for R-Marxist and blue for D-Marxist but the point is

It starts in law school, I'm telling you.  That's where you fall in love with government.  That's where you think of yourself as an elitist who knows better than the rest of us.

86 57, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO STOP FUCKING US Actually, never, they are necropheliacs, because with the death tax the sodomizing does not end when you reach room temperature.

87 I am inclined to prefer the modern analogues to pitchforks and torches...

88

Someone has to pay.

Oh, you can count that.

The rest have to know they're next. We can't hang them all, but we can hang one of them. To encourage the others.

People dependent on the government for their daily sustenance +

People dependent on affirmative action +

Union workers +

Gay rights activists +

Feminists +

Illegal immigrants +

Hard core leftists +

= A majority of America

That's your real problem.

89 You want to know how fucked we truly are? Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected. Let that sink in.

90

And only in a dream would said party get blamed as irrational extremists by the media.  Can red states just secede?

I do believe that has been discussed before.

91 Hey, good news, "$226 million is cut from the southern border fence at the suggestion of Obama."

92 I noted this problem around this time lat year when we were getting so excited about the election: Even when we take back the majority in the House, we still have the same leadership from the stellar 2001-2006 years. Nothing will change with them in charge, and at this point we are running out of time for anything to change anyway. I honestly have no idea how we can fix this.

93 Oh, and thanks, Nevada and California for Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer's re-election.  A-holes.

For CA, blame the CA GOP. They're the bastards that didn't do shit to help Carly.

94

Jeebus on a motherfucking slice of white bread.   I don't even know what to say.   Right now I could pummel the living hell out of somebody.   They can't be this damn stoopid.   This was done on purpose.   There's no question about it anymore.   Any ignorant shit with a damn GED could have done better than this.

I'm so damn pissed off I can hear my blood pulsing.

95

WY

"Let's all uproot and move to Texas!  Build a wall and let the rest of the country go all Road Warrior."

TX is going full blown wetback/scratch back. Don't put your faith there. Look at the statistics on white/black/hispanic, and then panic.

TX talks a good line, but it is changing fast.

96 I do not for the life of me understand why the Repub leadership is so shit-pantsed frightened of a government shutdown. I do believe that, unlike '95, there are a critical mass of people who have awakened to the fact that government workers are a pampered, arrogant, protected class, deserving of little sympathy if they are given a couple weeks 'vacation'. Add to this the fact that by the government's own planning figures, 800,000 of the fuckers are non-essential. Yes, that's right...non-essential. And given the fact that 95%+ of us are not government workers - if we can't convert that to some level of majority support from the American people then we may as well pack it all up and tell fucking Lichtenstein to take over as leader of the free world. For. Crying. Out. Loud.

97 A lawyer.  Seriously, behind every asshole Republican is a JD.

Did I say you could speak? Now hurry up with that chicken, and make sure it's the Extra Crispy kind.

98

Since I'll end up behind barbed wire soon anyway, I'm thinking of printing my own 20 dollar bills and passing them off on naive, pimple faced clerks at Kroger.

I gotta save money somewhere, dammit!

99
You know what I saw on the way home, tonight in MA?

A red Toyota Prius...with Texas plates...

and a Ron Paul for president '08 bumper sticker.

thought it was funny...and it kinda made me think maybe Dr Paul's criticism about our spending was and is 100% right.

100 btw, last week a commenter used the "magic bean" analogy.
I used 'magic beans' a couple of weeks ago on Dwight.

101

You know, I always used to laugh at idots that talked about a 3rd party.

 

After today? Not so much....not so much.

102 OY:

From HA:

Update: NRO reports that Boehner, Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy were still busy making the pitch as of this morning. Freshman Tim Huelskamp, noting that $352 million is less than $2 per U.S. citizen, is unpersuaded:

103

For CA, blame the CA GOP. They're the bastards that didn't do shit to help Carly.

 

 

 

Figures.  Screwed as a party.

104 We screech and holler, but yet we do nothing.

105 So they were down to $14.7 yesterday by reducing rescissions, mandatory, and reserve funds. Now they're adding new military spending and it's somehow only a few hundred million? The article also mentions it isn't counting cuts that aren't immediate and dismisses anything it thinks won't provide savings.

Is it too much to ask for a list that doesn't discount things on whims?

106

Tell me again why I should vote for these Republican ass clowns.  I am a libertarian.  I shoudl vote that way.

107

They fucked us, and we must return the fucking.

Just make sure you use their dicks.  Use your own, and any slight chance you may have had at 'ette ass is gone gone gone.

108 Also, how is it possible to get rolled when you have the majority? If you had an honest position and strength of will it would be impossible to roll the leader. We, sadly, have neither in the House.

109

Since I'll end up behind barbed wire soon anyway, I'm thinking of printing my own 20 dollar bills and passing them off on naive, pimple faced clerks at Kroger.

I gotta save money somewhere, dammit!

Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (OgDRw)

High schoolers in OH just did this.  But they were caught by a Wendy's clerk.

110 Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected.



Let that sink in.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (+vkOU)

 

So I should invest in a really nice moped, helmet and orange flag?

Thanks for the head's up, yo.

 

111 Benefit of the doubt: It's a sucker's game.

112 Actually isn't it worse than that because of the $$$ we are spending on bombing Libya right now?

113 I've said it before... Ooh, there's no bread, let 'em eat cake There's no end to what they'll take Flaunt the fruits of noble birth Wash the salt into the earth But they're marching to Bastille Day. La guillotine will claim her bloody prize. Free the dungeons of the innocent The king will kneel And let his kingdom rise. Ooh, there's stained velvet, dirty lace, Naked fear on every face See them bow their heads to die As we would bow as they rode by And we're marching to Bastille Day La guillotine will claim her bloody prize Sing, oh choirs of cacophony The king has kneeled To let his kingdom rise. Lessons taught but never learned All around us anger burns Guide the future by the past Long ago the mould was cast For they marched up to Bastille Day La guillotine claimed her bloody prize Hear the echoes of the centuries Power isn't all that money buys.

114 Maybe it's time to buy one of these, I already have. Good stuff.

http://tinyurl.com/3r9azql

115 101, Let the GOP put up some dipshit like Hucksterby, Romney or Santorum and yes, I could see it. We may lose, but what the fuck, either D or R we lose. I used to get crazy over a third party but if they are going to behave like Boner, FKUM.

116 The deal cut more than $200 million in border fencing.  So does this mean that more than half the cuts were from border fencing? 

117 I ththink at this point we need to start focusing on how to survive the collapse. It isn't going to be avoided. Any good blog posts about how to get by after the music stops?

118

Boehner has been all over twitter today talking about how real the cuts were and they weren't just accounting gimmicks but fuck him. I was okay with the 38 billion, and hell i was even ok with the 14 billion because a cut is a cut. But I am livid about this. How can the GOP expect to be taken seriously if all they do is cave and roll over for the dems? I half expect to find out that Ryan's budget plan actually increases spending instead of seriously curtails it.

119 Leftover Soothsayers: "I like John Boehner but he's in way over his head."

You should probably stop. Liking people and then watching them fuck you over is no way to go through life. An amicable front man is not to be befriended. These people colluded on a fraud. At least with a Progressive, you know your enemy. Now we see our "allies" aren't.

Epic lying from the Dems I expected. Epic, intentional fail from the GOP I didn't. Not this time. There will be repercussions.

120 Alright, I see what they're doing here. The immediate deficit reduction impact = $352M in the CBO's opinion.

121

"F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all."

Not before the plug is irreversibly pulled on the dollar.  Up until then, there's still a chance to avert disaster.

122 Update: NRO reports that Boehner, Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy were still busy making the pitch as of this morning. Freshman Tim Huelskamp, noting that $352 million is less than $2 per U.S. citizen, is unpersuaded:

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (penCf)

It's about $1.15.....less than a 1/3 gallon of gas.

123
Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected.

Pretty hard to beat Obama without a challenger. So I'll go even further and say that Obama has a 99.9% probability of being reelected.

We'll get a challenger, eventually.

But the question remains: Will said challenger put up a challenge?

We have to be perfect in 2012 to beat Obama. No fuckups, no mis-steps, no kissing up to the middle or the media.

124 It's clear to most, we must vote these cocksuckers out of office and replace them with patriots.  They fucked us, and we must return the fucking.  And with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (ZHsNw)

Meh, I don't give a fuck anymore. We just did that remember? When we do it we just go after the ones we just elected because they aren't giving us everything we want right fucking now!

If you read the article it isn't as bad as ace or the headline says it is. At worst the cuts made may not save money in the next six months. Like the highway fund money may not have been released this year but next year. Whether it's was going to be spent this year or next year now it isn't going to be spent.

On the other hand cuts to pell grants that will only save $1 Billion this year will save $40 Billion over the next ten years and those were permanent cuts.

If we are only going to give these guys three months on the job to fix 10 years of fuckups then what's the point. You are setting them up for failure so why work to elect them or replace them?

 

125 "so that we could cut the 365 days of spending of 2010 into 354 days," i think you want 364 there

126 I find your lack of faith in this Farce disturbing.

127 And on Facebook, right fucking now, my lib friends are chatting away about CEO bonuses. Man, we're fucked.

128 Trump in 2012!

129 Wouldn't it be great if some terrorist brought a suitcase nuke into Congress and solved the government problem for us.  Okay, I'm kidding, but I feel just as angry.

130 121 I half expect to find out that Ryan's budget plan actually increases spending instead of seriously curtails it.

The CBO already scored it*, as did Heritage. It doesn't.

_{*They also hit it with partisan analysis afterward}

131

High schoolers in OH just did this.  But they were caught by a Wendy's clerk.

Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (penCf)

So, don't pass off my counterfeit loot at Wendy's?

Thanks for the tip!

 

_{pssst, I'll hook you up with some Bomb Burritos from Speedway for the down low *wink, wink*}

132

It's about $1.15.....less than a 1/3 gallon of gas.

Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (VuLos)

Someone needs to buy a new electric car!

133 That's $1.14 per person in the 2010 Census. Draconian.

134 I hate to say it but it is really getting close to third party time. The Republicans are better then the Democrats but fuck we know the Dems will stab us in the front its just that the Republicans keep stabbing us in the back.

135 Did Heritage did their own score on Rogers' bill?

136 Only one way to reverse this..

137 Fuck them all. Burn it down.

138 We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good for this country.

Excuse my fucking language but I am fucking pissed off.

139

Who gives a shit if Obamma is re-elected.

 

Today = game over.  I'm going to start stocking up on drinking water. (and toilet paper)

140 >A lawyer. Seriously, behind every asshole >Republican is a JD. Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're just fucking unreasonable about lawyers. My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.

141

141 We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good for this country.

 

 

 

Agreed, but it'll never happen.  Who votes to end their own meal ticket?

142 Could be worse. Mike Castle could be in the Senate.

143 "so that we could cut the 365 days of spending of 2010 into 354 days," i think you want 364 there

It's okay. It's spread cross the 57 states so, it all evens out.

144 36 If you depend on government to survive, please die.

Oh, and fuck you.

Posted by: jwpaine at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (FUozQ)

 

jwpaine 2012!  I like your platform.

145 The Constitutional Union of American States

That's my entry for the name of the new nation.  (you know there's no other solution, really)

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)

 

I'll give 2012 a decent chance ( my hopes are diminishiing, though).  If nothing changes after that and we get the same old tired shit, then let the sucession begin.  I'll be all in.  We'll literally have nothing to lose at that point. 

146 136, we just gotta replace more of the republicans! I am to the point where if we nominate another RINO in 2012, I am out! But I figure we give it one last stand to see if this country wants a steady decline or a return to prosperity, so I will work hard in the 2012 primaries.

147 shit, sock fail on 147

148 130 Trump in 2012!

You'll love me, I've already gone bankrupt, three/four times, I can take the country there before you can say "debtor in possession".

Did I mention I also hate guns and don't drink?

149

Also, GET OUT OF DEBT RIGHT NOW! The government is almost guaran-tee going to collapse now. I think we'll all survive just fine, but if you expect anything, ANYTHING from the govn'ment to keep you alive, just start fucking your ass with household objects now. Save some damn time.

150

2012? I would care if I thought that the Communists would allow us to win. But we are not in a legitimate nation anymore, and the courts have held that the whims of the President/GodEmperor is more important than actual law, and the President and his co-conspirators are dyed-in-the-wool evil tyrannists (is that even a word? Nevermind, I am coining it.) dedicated to the destruction of our free society and the enslavement ("restricting rights for the betterment of the society") of all of us.

I sincerely doubt that any sham election will have any consequences. They will not allow 2010 to occur again. Ever.

So yeah, I understand, Ace.

Unfortunately, I really understand.

151 More OY: (because you know when they talk of national reconstruction they are saying 'the US needs to pay for......'

UN: Stabilization and Reconciliation Key in Ivory Coast

With the arrest on Monday of former Ivorian President Laurent Gbagbo signaling an end to the post-election violence that has rocked the country for the past four months, the head of the U.N.Â’s peacekeeping mission in Ivory Coast, Choi Young-jin, said the challenge now will be to restore law and order and start the process of national healing.

The envoy briefed the U.N. Security Council via a video link from his headquarters in Abidjan. He said there are four major challenges that need the immediate attention of President Alassane OuattaraÂ’s administration.

"The first challenge is the restoration of peace and law and order throughout the country, particularly in Abidjan. The second challenge is the prevention of any further human rights abuses and violations and the delivery of humanitarian assistance - especially in the western part of the country where several serious problems have already been reported. The third challenge is national reconciliation. On this score, President Ouattara has been making a very clear stance in favor of reconciliation as opposed to retribution. The fourth and perhaps most formidable challenge awaiting the Ivorian people, appears to be national reconstruction - particularly with regard to the promotion of education, creation of youth employment, addressing the land ownership problem, poverty eradication and economic development," he said.

152 Did anyone really think Da Joo Cantor would cut a dime?

153 Let that sink in.

Posted by: George Orwell

(runs across the room with fingers in ears)

LA LA LA LA    I CAN'T HEAR YOU

154 2 weeks ago when i suggested The Tea Party Armed Forces, i was laughed at/jeered at and partially raped.

155 @78 "I really wonder, given the speed of the printing presses, why they bother taxing at all?"

Absolutely spot on. Indeed, it's clear at this point that they think deficits are completely meaningless; so why the fuck should we send them taxes at all?

In fact, I say let them continue to pay their loyal, vote-casting parasites. In "dollars," a/k/a Imperial Magic Bean Credits. The rest of us can create our own private currency.

156

How many democrats will bohner need to get this shit sandwhich passed? Cause I'm thinking the republicans rats are about to jump over board.

 

Yeah, I said it! RATS!

157 Well, at least I don't live in a country where they call me an Ivorian. I don't think I could live with that.

158 149 The Constitutional Union of American States

That's my entry for the name of the new nation.  (you know there's no other solution, really)

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)

 

I already have the new name selected- The People's Republic of Obamaland. My people are working on the logo.

159 >>Not before the plug is irreversibly pulled on the dollar. Up until then, there's still a chance to avert disaster That plug has already been pulled. PIMCO shorted Treasury bonds for the first time last weekend. QE2 ends this June and the Feds will stop buying bonds. Rates are going to sky rocket and inflation will be right there with it. We are in a slow motion death spiral. Enjoy the view.

160 Wish I'd come up with this analogy, but it was at Books, Bikes, and Boomsticks:

"So John Q. Public is wheeled in with an arterial bleeder, and Dr. Reid says a bandaid should fix it, while Dr. Boehner wants one of those little 3" gauze squares. They compromised on a 2" gauze pad, but with only one strip of tape."

161 144

141 We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good for this country.

 

Agreed, but it'll never happen.  Who votes to end their own meal ticket?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:20 PM (zgZzy)

Oh yes, I know.  But a girl can dream, can't she?  A girl can fucking dream...

162 Rodgers? Fuck that. Boner must go. Primary him. Then third party him. Ditto that lying weasel Cantor. Now, where's that Boner apologist Gabe? He has some splainin to do.

163

So will the republican elitists ass rape the new 87 members of the house, or will they be allowed to quietly return to their homes with their ball sacks attached?

164 I'm ready for a third party now. Left the Republican Party several years ago because of shit like this. I'm more than had enough.

165
you're a girl?

166 F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?

THIS!

167 113 The Constitutional Union of American States

That's my entry for the name of the new nation.  (you know there's no other solution, really)

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)

I'm leaning more towards something like: The Constitutional Union of Fuck All the Rest Of You All.

168
why am I the last to know these things?

169

Oh yes, I know.  But a girl can dream, can't she?  A girl can fucking dream

 

 

 

 

Dream away!!!  Better than facing reality.

170 126 

...If you read the article it isn't as bad as ace or the headline says it is. At worst the cuts made may not save money in the next six months. Like the highway fund money may not have been released this year but next year. Whether it's was going to be spent this year or next year now it isn't going to be spent.

On the other hand cuts to pell grants that will only save $1 Billion this year will save $40 Billion over the next ten years and those were permanent cuts...

That's indeed what it says. CBO has tallied immediate savings of discretionary according to bizarre budgetary rules. I want a complete and total list of what they predict is gone but not necessary by the end of this year.

171 It is simply not possibly for the federal budget to ever shrink in a meaningful way.

172
but you are an injun, right?

or at least somehow affiliated with a casino?

173 Now, where's that Boner apologist Gabe? He has some splainin to do.

Posted by: Mr Diddy Wah Diddy at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (62eAJ)

Bath house again?

174 We'll get a challenger, eventually. But the question remains: Will said challenger put up a challenge? My friendsh, you have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.

175
you're a girl?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (UQjUb)

And probably a girl with hooter's and stuff.

176 Yes Sooth, I am a girl.  With huge...tracts of land.

177 I, for one, am not ready to fold the tent just yet.

RINO.

178 Could be worse. Mike Castle could be in the Senate. Now that thar is what we call "gallows humor."

179 I call BS on the MFM reporting on this. 

180 Oh, and I'll believe there is a Republican (or any politician) with balls when they start openly talking about how Americans should just stop paying their taxes.

All they have to say is, "I don't know why most people keep paying their taxes. All that happens we politicians and bureaucrats waste and squander it. I mean really: Does anyone think they are getting a good deal for the amount of taxes they are paying?"

You thought Trump was stirring up shit?

181

America's Last Days, a novel...by Doug MacKinnon

Crappy characters, great scenario

182

I wonder if the Romans, as the Empire was collapsing, sat around and said "Wow. I am witnessing the fall of the Roman Empire".

Probbly not. It took their Empire hundreds of years to fall. Longer than we've even been around.

183

The budget cannot be fixed. The GOP knows the voters will never stand for austerity, even if the end is collapse.

They are merely taking the path of least resistance until that collapse.

184

I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?

Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.

They should have renamed ATM's instead.

185

The CBO already scored it*, as did Heritage. It doesn't.

_{*They also hit it with partisan analysis afterward}

Oh I know. I actually like Ryan. I trust him and I would love to see him take the Presidential Oath of Office in 2013. But pretty much 95% of the rest can go to hell.

186

F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.

2012? Who cares?

I recall Ace smacking me down for saying something similar.

187

Probbly not. It took their Empire hundreds of years to fall. Longer than we've even been around.

Posted by: LGoPs at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (lHn6+)

They had Nero, we got Toonces.

188 Hey, anybody gonna finish raping me?

189 And I am a bit Injun, but only a bit.  Lenape tribe about five generations ago.

190 181 Yes Sooth, I am a girl.  With huge...tracts of land.
        I see what you did there!

191
I still can't get over the fact that John Boehner gave up the Debt Limit card in exchange of for nothing.

Actually he did get something, I'm sorry.

He got a barrage of nasty insults and ludicrous smears from the Democrats and Obama.

192

Hal Rodgers has to go. Has to go. The party has to demand he resign from his post. There have to be consequences. Someone has to pay. F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all. 2012? Who cares?

But see, Ace, here's the problem with that.  Let's say that Rodgers doesn't "go"; then you get even more pissed and demand that our House majority ALL pay.  So then you get a bunch of us to stay home in November 2012.  Next day we get up and discover that not only has Obama been re-elected, and Harry Reid is still Senate Majority Leader, but Nancy Pelosi has gotten back the Speaker's gavel.

Question for you: How does that help our cause?

Who cares?  YOU should.  We ALL should.  We HAVE to.  It was just this kind of "the hell with it all" attitude in 2006 that handed the whole kit & kaboodle to those Donk animals in the first place.  Think we'd be looking at Debtageddon today if we'd had Boehner & McConnell at the helm and Bush/McCain at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue?  Once you stop emoting, your answer will be "hell, no."  But nooooo, all you tighty-righties had to take a walk on them, and we ended up with the Three Horsepersons of the Donkalypse.  And now you want to do it again!  It's like digging yourself into a huge hole you can't climb out of and then blaming the shovel.

The lesson you're refusing to learn?  It can get worse.  A lot worse.  And a lot quicker.  When the GOP is in power, if nothing else, it means the Dems aren't.  And that can at least buy some additional time, even if only to go down, like the band on the Titanic, with some semblance of dignity.

Or maybe the economy'll collapse this summer and this budget fiasco will turn out to not have mattered.

And they say I can't be optimistic.

193 Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway. They should have renamed ATM's instead. Perhaps they could name electronic food stamp cards after him.

194 So where can I find a third party?

195 Two important things were accomplished here. First, a government shutdown was averted. Second, the JEF was able to go on the air before the ink was dry and claim it was historic levels of cuts and he led the way.
 
That's what's important. Not reality.
 
No wonder Pimco unloaded all their Treasuries. Bond holders will have to take a haircut soon. Just like GM bondholders. A 95% fucking haircut.

196 ...but I ain't goin' down without a nasty fight. We've got to try and excise this virulent cancer from our midst. Quitting is not an option. 

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (vbh31)

Yeah, but I'm damn tired of waiting to bloody some fucking noses.   I want to see some gushing, mile high, arterial bleeds.

197 In fact, I say let them continue to pay their loyal, vote-casting parasites. In "dollars," a/k/a Imperial Magic Bean Credits. The rest of us can create our own private currency. First they came for Chucky Cheese , then they came for Ottawahawk .

198 This is a blatant fuck you for thinking that we voters are in charge. Was this pushed by those R fucks in the House who were not targeted in primaries as payback for their fucking ass buddies who got beat in R primaries by conservatives? I would love to see every Tea Party Candidate say fuck you GOP, we are forming the Unaffiliated Party Caucus and don't ask us for dick unless you come with $1.5 trillion in cuts in one hand and a list of Rs in the leadership responsible for this trick fuck who have been punished severely. Honestly, I'd rather have the Ds back in charge so that when we have to rebuild the Republic at least the public would equate D Majorities in any chamber as toxic and unpatriotic.

199 Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.

My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (fjoLg)

It was in 2008, when we were told that Barack Obama, only by virtue of having graduated from law school, was a certified genius.

Law school has no math.

Law school has no dissertation.

Law school has (almost) no foreign students.

Nobody ever flunks out of law school (except Al Gore).

There are inanimate objects that have almost graduated from Yale due of their lack of grades.

They have formed themselves into an oligarchy.  Despite being an (entirely too large) 1% of the population, they are 1/3rd of the House of "Representatives", half of the Senate, all of the Judiciary and most of the executive branch.  Look at Michelle Obama's job in Chicago -- lawyers are qualified for every job possible!

It doesn't occur to them that they don't know everything about everything, they went to law school.

The last time a country had a perfumed, out-of-touch elite like this, they sent them to the guillotine.

Lawyers are the KY jelly for corruption. You hire a lawyer to get around the law, not to enforce it. If the law were enforced properly, Lawyerbot 3000 could do all that you need. Why do you think Tom Hayden was so important to the Corleone family?

Having lawyers run government is a disaster because they don't operate like productive people. To a productive person, tedious unnecessary paperwork takes time from valuable labor.  To a lawyer, tedious unnecessary paperwork is the whole point of the job -- they're paid by the hour.

Don't blame me for hating lawyers, when drooling idiot graduates from journalism school look with fawning admiration toward lawyers as an intellectual elite (and, from their perspective, they're right), you can't blame me for the antipathy.

200

will the republican elitists ass rape the new 87 members of the house

Let's pray its the 87 freshman ass raping the elites.

201 If the candidate of either party in 2016 is called Romulus Augustulus, I think we're just about done.

202

Make that 'wink, nudge'...ugh

 

I kinda like "wing-nudge"...they pretend to be right wing, but they nudge the RATS and enable the looting of the peasantry.

203
The GOP knows the voters will never stand for austerity, even if the end is collapse.

You're probably right; that is indeed their thinking.

It makes no sense because they were voted for in the first place to make BIG cuts in spending. But all they want to do is please the center-left, the people who hate them.

204

Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.

They should have renamed ATM's instead.

 

I live right off of KY-80 and I voted for Rodgers opponent in November. Hell the only good thing about him is that Hal Rogers Parkway is a nice drive

205 Question for you: How does that help our cause?

What the fuck are you talking about? Our cause is to get rid of everybody.  And teach lessons.  And use "primary" as a verb.  And be, like, noble an' shit.  Or something.  Now get out of my bushes and go pre-pre-order my book.

206 It's like elections only have consequences for one of the parties.

Somewhere deep in my reptile brain I have to think that this is a ploy.  That there is some larger 3D chess going on for our country's betterment.

Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.

Then, I lose all hope.

I hate politicians...

207 Not just Hal Rogers, but Boehner and Cantor have to go too.  What a group of pathetic, bloody cowards. 

208 198: I'd rather see it go down on the Donk's watch. Both of the Beltway parties are to blame but the American people are so fucking dense that they still blame the party in power when shit goes bad so when the country is destroyed at least we take the fucking Marxists down for all of eternity.

209

The cut from a few big programs and agencies and that's it.  They don't cut any departments, they don't cut foreign aid, they don't cut all of the bat shit taste test studies, they don't cut the farm subsidies, they don't cut the subsidies to giant corporations who don't need them, they won't consider scraping the tax system and replacing it with something even microscopically fair, they won't look at all of the redundancies on redundancies that pervades government.  And then the fucking staff sizes of the congressmen themselves for cripes sakes. 

The could literally cut a quarter of the governments budget and not cause a ripple in the cesspool that is Washington.

This just sucks and we are doing it to ourselves and allowing it to be done to us.

Obama gave it away in his speech yesterday when he said that "if we really do believe in creating the progressive society that we want".   The motherfucker is out to destroy this country and it is his stated goal.

210 Hey, anybody gonna finish raping me?

If you volunteer, it's not rape. And: no.

Fuckin' pervy robot.

211

I have to ask this: Mr. Ace of Spades, why are you freaking out so?

Maybe you aren't, and I'm just misreading it -- but it really seems like you're freaking out an awful lot lately.

212 But I agree that, regardless of spending authority versus immediate savings, Hal Rogers has got to go. The sooner he stops walking all over everybody, the better.

Also have a few questions:

(1) When a program expires, what happens to the money? Does it go back into the system or do they just shove that money elsewhere?

(2) Anyone familiar with CBO scoring tactics?
Why are recissions, reserve funds, and mandatory spending cuts automatically excluded under budgetary scoring processes? Why does this also happen to anything that doesn't have immediate impact?

213

Yeah, but I'm damn tired of waiting to bloody some fucking noses. I want to see some gushing, mile high, arterial bleeds.

Posted by: Steph at April 13, 2011 07:32 PM (AkdC5)

Would you like a cookie?

We're hiring, by the way.

214 I half expect to find out that Ryan's budget plan actually increases spending instead of seriously curtails it.

Yes. It calls for spending over 20% of an implausibly grown GDP—and higher federal tax receipts than have ever been seen in American history. To do what with them? Class? What does the government do with your money? Right. Spend it.

Some people want to be boned by an accountant. I don't get it. It's a thing.

215 4 Over the cliff we go. Wheeeeeee!

Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:51 PM (veL4N)

Hands in the air for the whole ride, everyone!

216

Posting links on this blog is a pain in the ass, and I posted 3 over there, so I'll just post 1.

http://tinyurl.com/3pybh4l

I think it is quite illuminating, really. Buck up! Got a real stand up guy running on a tea party platform in Florida for 2012, and I think I even found Lindsay Graham's spine.

217

O/T You know what's more irritating than Hannity playing Obama clips all the time?

Hannity playing the WRONG Obama clips all the time and having to listen to Teh Won's voice twice as necessary.

218 Damn, after you suckers fell for it with the Obamacare accounting promises we knew we were in like Flint.

BTW anybody need a math tutor for their kids. I know some real nifty tricks.

219 214 It's like elections only have consequences for one of the parties.

Somewhere deep in my reptile brain I have to think that this is a ploy.  That there is some larger 3D chess going on for our country's betterment.

Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.

Then, I lose all hope.

I hate politicians...

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (iJYib)

There's the problem...there is no 3D chess going on.  The only thing these bastards care about is keeping their job and getting that nice fat paycheck and pension.  They don't give two craps about you or me.  We're just stupid taxpayers who keep sending them our money.

220
holy shit, how did we not see this coming?

Enough talk about keeping our powder dry. I don't EVER want to hear that again.

brb...

221

Little tease:

“There is nothing that I will not do to right this wrong,” Graham said. “I talked to the vice president. I made it clear to him that none of their nominees are going forward, that the squeaky wheel seems to get the oil. Well, nobody’s going forward in the Senate until we address this.”

Woh, Lindsay! Way to go to bat! Way to stick it to them and fight for us!

He wants $50k in pork.

222 What's the over/under on Our Savior West voting for this POS?

223 I am disheartened.

224

I have to ask this: Mr. Ace of Spades, why are you freaking out so?

Maybe you aren't, and I'm just misreading it -- but it really seems like you're freaking out an awful lot lately.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 13, 2011 07:37 PM (5/yRG)

Jane, not everyone is as self sufficient as you or I. Have you done any "sangin'" while out foraging? Here at the Boogie Southern Compound I know folks roundabouts that have done sangin' to raise a few bucks.

225

Does no one here or in the media understand the difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.

Deficits/surplusses are the difference between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag obligations (often by years), and obligations lag obligational authority (usually by months). The "budget deal" pertains to obligational authority.

226 Enough talk about keeping our powder dry. I don't EVER want to hear that again.

Oh, hush up and keep that powder dry, honey.

227 "To a fair degree, the lack of immediate budget-cutting punch is because the budget year is more than half over and that cuts in new spending authority typically are slow to register on deficit tallies."

^ This is a statement from the WaPo. I want a real, meaningful tally and not want CBO "believes".

228 For some reason the script always chops the sock back to some random length.

229

O/T You know what's more irritating than Hannity playing Obama clips all the time?

Hannity playing the WRONG Obama clips all the time and having to listen to Teh Won's voice twice as necessary.

Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (OgDRw)

WTF are listening to Hannity for? He's a RINO stool pusher. Fuck him and fuck the Fox PeRINO Network.

230

Does no one here or in the media understand the difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.

Deficits/surplusses are the difference between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag obligations (often by years), and obligations lag obligational authority (usually by months). The "budget deal" pertains to obligational authority.

Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:41 PM (U2BT3)

Huh?

231

TRILLIONs of dollars in debt? Fuck you, poor optics.

$50,000.00 for start up the feasibility studies and such for my next big corrupt business hand out? I WILL SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN!

232 "Mitt Romney needs to be mad."

Yeah!1!  Only the RINOs can save us now!

Wait, what?

233 231 What's the over/under on Our Savior West voting for this POS?

Allen West?  Ruling Class cocksucking RINO.  I told you people and told you and told you and told you but you just WOULDN'T LISTEN.

234

We're hiring, by the way.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (bxiXv)

If blood shooting out of my eyes is one of the requisite skills, I'm highly qualified.

235

Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.

They should have renamed ATM's instead.

 

I live right off of KY-80 and I voted for Rodgers opponent in November. Hell the only good thing about him is that Hal Rogers Parkway is a nice drive

Dad is from Blue Diamond (Hazard). Did you get stuck behind that big truck hauling a 12 ton solid block of coal on the way to Mount Rushmore?

 

236 Look on the bright side.  We still have Cowboy Poetry in Nevada.  Yeehaaa!!!

237 234 Does no one here or in the media understand the difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.

Deficits/surplusses are the difference between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag obligations (often by years), and obligations lag obligational authority (usually by months). The "budget deal" pertains to obligational authority.

So how does that change this picture?

238
Does no one here or in the media understand the difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.

Classic lawyer talk.

239

I am not surprised.  They're all the same.  Every time we vote, it doesn't actually do anything.

Throw them all out.  Exile them.  Burn their homes so they cannot return.  Piss in their bathwater.  All that.

Start anew with more stringent restrictions upon the government and tell the hangers on and bleeders to go fuck themselves.  If they don't like it, they can move to Mexico or one of those Eurpoean countries which is now figuring out that, hey... socialism really doesn't work!

240 Well folks, I hate to be the first one to say it, but it's time to start drinking on an empty stomach.







Like you weren't doing that already, what with all the prosperity O-Dumbfuck has brought you.

241 Frankly, I'd take Caligula's near-consul horse, Incitatus, over the Indonesian horse's ass we have now.  Incitatus was a member of the Roman Senate, so he's even more qualified than the Indonesian Imbecile.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (G/MYk)

Hell, he'd be better than the current Prezzzzzzzzident of the Senate.

242 (2) Anyone familiar with CBO scoring tactics?
Why are recissions, reserve funds, and mandatory spending cuts automatically excluded under budgetary scoring processes? Why does this also happen to anything that doesn't have immediate impact?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (uVLrI)

The CBO scored this on how it would affect the deficit this year. So if the money doesn't go out the door in september but October it doesn't affect this years deficit. It will affect next years.

Mandatory spending is spending already athorized under previous legislation like Pell grants. There is a certain amount of money that is mandatory that it go to that department each year whether they spend it that year or not. If they didn't spend it they keep it and spend it next year. For instance you could get a pell grant in September but your tuition wouldn't be due until December, they would pay that out of last years funds.

The CBO only scored it on what checks would be written by sept. 30.

243 I might as well start shitting in my pants because I just no longer see the point in putting in the effort to go all the way to the bathroom.

244

If there's a spending cut at all, it sure as hell isn't in discretionary spending.

FY2010 discretionary spending outlays (via the CBO) - $1,347 billion
FY2011 discretionary spending outlays (via the CBO) - $1,365 billion

I may be but a public-school graduate, but the last I checked, $1,365 billion was higher than $1,347 billion, not less.

245

Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.

They should have renamed ATM's instead.

I'll have a little "Hal Rogers," Please

246 205 Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.

My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (fjoLg)

Hey, I hate lawyers too! Don't forget me!

The purpose of a lawyer is to facilitate the transfer of all wealth from the rest of the world to lawyers. This is done by creating an unnavigable maze of laws, regulations, and rules, and requiring you to hire them to navigate it. You pay them more than any other tradesman, and if you don't you suffer fees, penalties, and then get sued on top of it all.

My Dad's a lawyer. He *hates* lawyers.

247

Tami

Somewhat shorter version: The deficit is based on outlays. The reduction in outlays from the recent budget deal (which reduces obligations, not outlays) will occur over years.  

248 252 The CBO scored this on how it would affect the deficit this year. So if the money doesn't go out the door in september but October it doesn't affect this years deficit. It will affect next years.

Mandatory spending is spending already athorized under previous legislation like Pell grants. There is a certain amount of money that is mandatory that it go to that department each year whether they spend it that year or not. If they didn't spend it they keep it and spend it next year. For instance you could get a pell grant in September but your tuition wouldn't be due until December, they would pay that out of last years funds.

The CBO only scored it on what checks would be written by sept. 30.

Which is what I thought, but it changes this picture from what is being reported. Immediate savings are also not equal to actual cuts. 

249 You know what I'd love to see? The GOP take a page from antiquity and use Sibylline negotiating tactics. GOP: We want 100 billion in cuts. Dems: No way, too much. GOP: Alright. How about 110 billion? Dems: Wait, what? GOP: 120 billion. Dems: You're crazy. GOP: 130 billion.

250 Play us off, keyboard cat...

251

I'm voting democrat. I want it to fucking BLEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!

 

I want to see the piq squeel and writhe as the maggots maggots gorge on its pustulent flesh.

252

WTF are listening to Hannity for? He's a RINO stool pusher. Fuck him and fuck the Fox PeRINO Network.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (EL+OC)

Yeah, I know. I guess I like him because he seems to be a genuinely regular guy, albeit naive as hell.

That and local AM programming kinda sucks around here.

 

253

Ryan takes Obama to the woodshed.

http://tiny.cc/trts1 

 

 

254 A Confederation of Fools. It would be accurate.

255

I may be but a public-school graduate, but the last I checked, $1,365 billion was higher than $1,347 billion, not less.

Posted by: steveegg at April 13, 2011 07:46 PM (o44nj)

You just don't have those highfalutin' business school skills.

256 GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy of California:
"Our Speaker negotiated, outnumbered 3-1"

Don't you SEE?  How GOOD he did against such ODDS?

There is gonna be a BIG tea party soon.  The sweeping has just begun. Its gonna be a long haul, but giving up is...  giving up.

 Liberty or Death.   I'm goin down swingin.

257 Here's the thing, if we could trust these guys, this wouldn't be such a bad thing.  The better strategy is to fight at the time of the debt limit.  That's where we're on solid ground electorally.

But they've screwed us too often, we don't trust any long-term plans.

258 So do we fight to take this country back, or all move to Belize or wherever and kinda start from scratch like our great ancestors once did?

259 Classic lawyer talk.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (ZHsNw)

Dazzle them with bullshit.

260

If blood shooting out of my eyes is one of the requisite skills, I'm highly qualified.

Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (AkdC5)

Can you make blood shoot out of other people's eyes? That would be more useful.

When you shoot blood out of your eyes, does it blind people and make then run in circles and scream?

Maybe that's what happened to the Honey Badger last night.

261 My Father in law uses that tactic to sell property. It works every freaking time he has to deal with a real estate putz.

262

That and local AM programming kinda sucks around here.

 

Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:48 PM (OgDRw)

If you live in the Seattle area you are forgiven because nothing sucks worse than AM radio in Seattle. LOL

263

Radiant

It may sound like Greek but it's not bullshit. It's how the federal financial system works.

 

264 Don't blame Boehner.  Dear Leader gave him a WH pass for MoTown night if Boehner would just stop all the saving-the-country crap.  I mean, really.

265 I agree with Ace - ***k it.

266 Where's that Honey Badger. I'm gonna hold it down and pop one in it's squeakhole.

267 This is petty, but... Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so.

268

So how does that change this picture?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (uVLrI)

It's like the $1.5 Billion cut in High Speed Rail. Obama wanted 8 Billion. None of that money was going to be spent this year so there is no credit on the deficit for this year for the $1.5 Billion.

Next year when the money would have gone out will be $1.5 Billion less.

What the republicans did was cut from authorised spending for this year. That doesn't mean the money would have been spent this year though. The deficit is the amount of checks we write this year and the CBO is only counting that.

269 259
"GOP: We want 100 billion in cuts.
Dems: No way, too much.
GOP: Alright. How about 110 billion?
Dems: Wait, what?
GOP: 120 billion.
Dems: You're crazy.
GOP: 130 billion."

That is my idea of how to conduct the FY 2012 budget negotiation, about every time the House effort gets rejected by the Senate or vetoed by OBummer.
ALL THE WAY to a Government shutdown, and into election season.

270 I say we just confiscate all the wealth in the country, and spend it all on hookers and blow. An 8 ball and blow job every week for every man, woman and child in the US, until we run out. Then it's Mad Max time.

271

Can you make blood shoot out of other people's eyes? That would be more useful.

When you shoot blood out of your eyes, does it blind people and make then run in circles and scream?

Maybe that's what happened to the Honey Badger last night.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (bxiXv)

Oh, you just don't know.   I'm one scary ass bitch when I'm angry.   I've been known to make big ass, grown men cower in fear.   You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.   And, right now, I'm really, really angry.

272

You just don't have those highfalutin' business school skills.

Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (AkdC5)

I'll run it by my CFO co-blogger.

273 Now, I can wait for my ObamaCare thread stalker to come and try to make some snide retarded remark about the stupidity of attaching ObamaCare repeal to anything ...)

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:52 PM (G/MYk)

They already voted to repeal Obamacare and sent it to the senate.

274 Boehner likes to cry.  I can see it now.  My size 11 up his ass, him crying like a baby.

275

i'm wondering , are all these guys being blackmailed? 

i just don't know what to think so my mind is going wild here.

276 *sniff*

I can't believe you guys are being such meanies.  PEOPLE DEPEND ON THAT MONEY!

*sob*

277

i'm wondering , are all these guys being blackmailed? 

i just don't know what to think so my mind is going wild here.

It's simple: they're in on the scam.

278 Fuck getting small. You know, it's just time to get blind.

279 What are our Options!!!!!!

280 135 That's $1.14 per person in the 2010 Census. Draconian.

Well, the next time I get a fundraising letter from the NRCC, I know how much to send them.

281 You know who this helps?  Mi...oh f*ck it. Even I can't do this anymore.

282

robt

Close enough for government work! (Couldn't resist.)

What the republicans did was reduce the amount of money the Executive Branch can obligate ... commit to, via various forms of contracts and grants ... in the current Fiscal Year. Outlays ... checks written ... against such contracts and grants always lag the obligations/commitments, often by several years.

283 i need to drink alot more, it's said i'll become smarter.

284 Farmer Joe, that's the saddest thing I've read. we have no power, it's all fake isn't it. our vote is bllcht, they just do as they're told when they get there.

285 So how much did they cut from obligations?

286  against such contracts and grants always lag the obligations/commitments, often by several years.

Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:59 PM (U2BT3)

Right, but the CBO scored it on what money would be actually spent this year. It's apples and oranges.

287 You'd cry too if your name was BONER and Obama owned you.

288 By the way, Ace, there is no such term as "actual spending" in the federal financial lexicon. It's all obligational authority, obligations, and outlays. All the way down.

289 291 What are our Options!!!!!!
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 07:58 PM (h+qn

Tonight, drinking hard liquor on an empty stomach.

Tomorrow, do all the shzt Glenn Beck has been talking about  (other than his bizarre posturing and love for that weasel, Huntsman, Jr.). Build up your own self-reliance.

290 Farmer Joe, that's the saddest thing I've read. we have no power, it's all fake isn't it. our vote is bllcht, they just do as they're told when they get there.

Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:01 PM (h+qn

Our homey Hastings:

http://tinyurl.com/3rpxr6q

291

laughing

my country tis of thee , sweet land of liberty of thee i sing..sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing; land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrims' pride, from every mountainside let Freedon ring.

 do kids sing that anymore?

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee

292 Booger just posted this on the other thread. 

Boehner just released this

Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)

293

robt

Totally agree. Apples and oranges. With an Ugli or two thrown in.

That's why Ace's (and Rush's. And Levin's. Etc.) hysterics are so off the wall. They know not what they do, and are playing into the Dem's hands.

294

Boehner on Hannity now, tape delayed.

295

Oh, you just don't know. I'm one scary ass bitch when I'm angry. I've been known to make big ass, grown men cower in fear. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. And, right now, I'm really, really angry.

Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (AkdC5)

Hired.

296 I can't believe I'm asking this but, here goes.

What has Rand said about this?

297

from Boogers article cuts in bill

and will result in $315 billion worth of savings over the next decade

298

Boehner on Hannity now, tape delayed.

Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 08:08 PM (OgDRw)

Why you might care, I don't know.

299

Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.

and since Stewie is hanging out with Planned Parenthood, these daze, can we all NOW refer to all those little busted up skeletons, as having been STUPAKED.  

to much?

300 309 I can't believe I'm asking this but, here goes.

What has Rand said about this?

He's thinking about filibustering but he hasn't committed himself to it yet.

301 Booger just posted this on the other thread. 

Boehner just releasedthis

Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)

Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)

You should delete that post. Ace and a bunch of the commenters are getting their rightous rage on and ready to vote for the peace party.

You shouldn't try to stop them with actual facts or anything.

302 Boehner just releasedthis

Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)

Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)

 

Hmmmmm.  Could Ace be wrong?  Could the "bipartisan" CBO be blowing smoke up our asses just to get us pissed off at repubs?

303  

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that the spending cut agreement on the House floor tomorrow will cut spending by nearly $40 billion – or $78.5 billion less than President Obama proposed in his FY 2011 budget. These are real cuts and will result in $315 billion worth of savings over the next decade.

304 My senator's comments on Obama's speech.

305 I thought I understood this-- though it was awhile ago that I took classes dealing with this-- but I'm not entirely sure what was done wrong here. Money was shifted, which they always do that, but we're dealing with a fiscal year that's over sooner rather than later. Also not sure why the media is selling this the way they are. CBO scoring is also strange to me because they seem to make all this harder than it ought to be.

306 Is six feet of rope too inflammatory? Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (6IReR) Allahpundit only chided me for, "Hang them by their necks until they're dead." He said, 'I know you're only joking, but... " No, I'm not!

307

F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.

2012? Who cares?

Couldn't have said it better myself

308

233 Well thank you for the snarky, assholish response.

Here's the way I look at it; the options if you will:

1) primary the people in out -- that could work, or it could blow up in everyone's faces: I really don't think a Congress full of Christine O'Donnells is going to help, but if you throw in Trump as president it could make for some serious entertainment (yes, the trouble I see is people falling for whoever says the right things, at least enough people to sway an election); besides, even if you did get the very best and most patriotic people out there it could still not work (or not work as quickly as everybody wants, and then what?)

2) third party -- but honestly I'm not sure that's really workable (see above)

3) revolution, secession!!!! Ok, ok, tree of liberty and all that, but people could wind up in a helluva lot worse shape on the other side of one of those (revolutions usually don't end well, just ask the French or the Russians or even the Germans when they decided tossing the decrepit Weimar Republic, ask a few million Africans for that matter) -- and secession...yeah, like the country is just going to voluntarily break apart all peacefully and shit, hahahhaa

4) massive protests -- could work, but then again first hint of violence (even manufactured) we could have martial law declared, and then we are at #3 or the screws really get tightened down (ask the old Soviet bloc countries about how that worked), which usually doesn't end well, so it would have to be played pretty cool (which I'm not sure people are going to be capable of at this point)

5) default -- ah forget it, nobody likes that option

6) sit tight and see how this plays out

And the outlying unknown here is: a big enough terrorist attack or natural, non-man caused disaster and even the best roadmap out of this mess goes belly up along with the economy, and then the whole global house of cards goes "poof" too (which kinda makes running off to another country not such a viable option either, unless you can live in a gated community and hire your own private security firm...and evne then you never know).

Now, that's pretty grim...but freaking about it really isn't going to help one damn bit, not one.  In fact, it might be playing right into the hands of the Dems (I'm beginning to believe this more and more).  They want you to get really, really upset.  I would advise not giving it to them.

Anyway, those are what I see as the end game options -- pick one.

309

Miss'80sBaby

was wondering what I  would do, without you around, puttin some knowlege to us...i see you've decided not to take a few days off..         *thanks for all you do*

310 Screw this shit, I'm done, it is time to leave. Who wants to join me?

311 Who cares? It's going to take a systemic crash of the welfare system in the West for anything to change, and if the Republicans hold power, the hole we dig out of won't be quite as deep. It's still worthwhile to have them in power, but nothing is going to change until the credit markets impose reality upon us.

312

@12: "On the plus side, max out your credit cards, the Yellowstone caldera is even bigger than previously thought!"

How big is thought?

313 316 Boehner just releasedthis Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1) Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)   Hmmmmm.  Could Ace be wrong?  Could the "bipartisan" CBO be blowing smoke up our asses just to get us pissed off at repubs? Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 08:16 PM (5FMhB) Anyone who is reading Boehner's latest propaganda at the link... stop for a moment. Set down the fact that we all want to believe that there is some kernel of hope for a moment. It's okay, you can pick it back up later if you choose to. Before you go back to reading Boehner's release, keep 2 things firmly fixed in your mind: 1. He is using factcheck.org to support his argument. Yes, the same factcheck.org that has been repeatedly discredited for being left leaning and ignoring facts that do not fit their conclusions. 2. Boehner's release repeatedly cites what they have allegedly cut, compounded over 10 years. This is a budget that ends in Sept. 2011. Even if their numbers are correct, it is patently false to claim that a budget that expires in 5 months will compound over 10 years. Now, go ahead and read the release with an objective eye and tell me if it holds any water.

314 WHAT DOES IT WILL LIKE TO BE ABANDONED BY YOUR PARENTS. Thats how I feel with this deal the GOP cut. I have been a GOP member since I registered to vote. But, they have let me down. They are democrat lite, to me. The biggest thing is were do you go from here. If the GOP elects one of the old guard to represnt us then were screwed. BHO, will get every liberal, union,minority vote. If we go with a gunslinger; like Rick Santoriem, then we're screwed; no independents and no regean/neo-conservative/bush dems. START LEARNING CHINESE

315 324 Miss'80sBaby

was wondering what I  would do, without you around, puttin some knowlege to us...i see you've decided not to take a few days off..         *thanks for all you do*

Thank you for the compliment.

316

All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played.

Given the "sanctity" of existing contractual agreements, there is no way in hell that federal OUTLAYS could be cut by $100 billion for the current fiscal year.

Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.

The game is necessarily about limiting new contractual obligations in FY2011, thereby limiting outlays pursuant to those contracts in future years. Anybody who tells you otherwise is either uninformed or playing you. 

 

 

 

 

 

317 @19: "I had the naive belief that the only way to stop these cocksuckers is a national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending."

I know something that would work....

318 I'm afraid it's too late for a third party option. The problems we're facing won't be solved by voting.

319 @23: "Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?"

Yes; it offers far too quick a release.  Piano wire and meathooks enhance the experience so much more.

320 Ah Ace, just when I think it's safe to hold you in contempt, you come out with a heater.

Welcome to the party pal!

321 I read AoS because Ace is funny. So I like him.

That's why it pains me to see so much thought and so many words put into this when it could all be explained once and then everyone would understand.

They're all stealing from us.
They're all stealing our freedoms and destroying everything good.
They just use different faces to do it.

Hey, I like the puppet on the left...no, no, no the puppet on the right is more to my liking.

Change is no longer available at the ballot box. Pixels aren't going to solve the problem either.

Action is now required.

322 RINOS have no pointy horns, And RINOS never charge, For they have the thinnest skin, Of any beasts that large.

323

We. are. seriously. boned.

 

324 We are the Irish locked in the steerage of the Titanic while the pols sip champers and wait for their turn in the boats. Enjoy kids.

325 Hal Rodgers has to resign?  Hell, boner has to resign.  Maybe Cantor as well.

326 Arriving home from work earlier, I just caught the tail end of some audio excerpt of Obie saying, "...we have to live within our means..."

What a fucking hypocritical piece of shit.

327 All that's left now is the fall and the finger pointing

328 @174: "Personally, I've made the turn and am now playing the back nine on life's golf course."

Given what's to come, an awful lot of people can probably say that now.  Most of them don't know it yet, but that won't change the outcome.

329 @198: "When the GOP is in power, if nothing else, it means the Dems aren't.  And that can at least buy some additional time, even if only to go down, like the band on the Titanic, with some semblance of dignity."

Now there's one hell of a campaign slogan! 

330 @205: "Law school has (almost) no foreign students.
Nobody ever flunks out of law school (except Al Gore)."

And our resident taxpayer supported half-wit drags out his two favorite lines of bullshit:

1. Law schools have relatively few foreign students for a simple reason: they don't teach foreign law.  Unless a foreigner wants to work in a law-related field in the US, or work back home as an expert in US law, there is no reason for them to come here.

2. Yeah, no one ever flunks out at all.  There are schools that cut the entire bottom third of the class at the end of One L.  I guess those folks would be happy to know that the schools were just kidding.

And while you're on about how great math is, take a wild guess about who fucked up the economy with all those new investment strategies.  A bunch of math and hard science majors in the big Wall Street firms coming up with utterly shitbrained schemes.

331 342 LOL, you know what the DIs say about pointing that finger, right?

332 " What a fucking hypocritical piece of shit." Try to understand the thought processes of your enemy. Hypocrisy as a charge only applies to non leftists because non-leftists are the ones wrapped up in a cloak of backward "values" and the antiquated ideals of western imperialist god bothering "morality". Leftists belong to the new age of historically inevitable social progress towards the future egalitarian utopia. Thus they have no obligation whatsoever to avoid hypocrisy or falsehood. They have no use for suck standards of behavior and see them as weapons of their enemies. They view their own hypocrisy and deception as simple enlightened pragmatism, the true nature of which, is incomprehensible to the limited minds of their misguided or dupe critics. Their understanding that hypocrisy is not shameful is what separates them from those enslaved lesser minds that are unfit to lead the revolution. Anything that theoretically advances the aims of the revolution is revolutionarily true even if it is not demonstrably or logically true. Logic and even empiricism itself are merely tricks the old fat-cat masters used to bind the minds of their servants to make them more submissive to slavery . Such tricks are the bloody tools that anti-revolutionary forces use to repress the masses through conditioning and control of the language. Anything that retards the aims of the revolution is a product of the the false consciousness that is like a shackle that binds the arms of the workers and keeps them from winning their collective freedom and natural brotherhood. If grey needs to be purple to benefit the revolution then grey IS purple and those who see grey must be blinded or made to fear the anti-revolutionary act of revealing that they see grey and not purple. This is because they are under the control of anti-revolutionary forces that keep them from seeing the purple that would benefit the revolution. That's how these fuckers reason. Like snakes. They see only the target and ignore, discredit, or kill anything that blocks their view of the target or might distract them from the target.

333 If you're really pissed and want to kick Establishment ass in both parties, the choice is clearly Sarah Palin. Nothing would piss them off more than the base rejecting their decrees that she is unelectable and putting a Rogue Conservative in the drivers seat.

334 The penultimate tragedy of 9/11 was that the one plane that didn't make its target was the one headed for the Capitol. With apologies, Crew Beamer staying in their seats in exchange for sparing any of the other three would have been a no-brainer in the poker game with the Fates.

335 And while you're on about how great math is, take a wild guess about who fucked up the economy with all those new investment strategies. A bunch of math and hard science majors in the big Wall Street firms coming up with utterly shitbrained schemes. Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 13, 2011 09:28 PM (xy9wk) Sorry, but I'm going to have to go with millions of deadbeats walking away from their obligations, along with almost as many "activists" and bureaucrats making it culturally acceptable.

336 ace:

Where do I pick up my pitchfork?  Evidently, nobody in Washington will understand anything less.  Honestly, something has to be done. 

I expect a rollcall posted alongside your links to other blogs that shows exactly who voted for this monstrosity and who was wise enough to vote against it.  Not one thin damned dime will ever grace the campaign coffers of any coward who votes in favor of this sell out.

337 I urge you to have a permanent, front-page, always-on, list of the spineless congressmen who voted to accept the 350 million dollar "cuts" (which of course is not even cuts because we will spend more than the year before!)  UGHHH!

Please make sure that every damned one of them is held accountable!

338 "Sorry, but I'm going to have to go with millions of deadbeats walking away from their obligations, along with almost as many "activists" and bureaucrats making it culturally acceptable."

Oh, it was that, too.

The CRA, Fannie and Freddie, etc., piled up the kindling.

But the "quants" in the financial sector doused it with gasoline.

Almost everyone was to blame - except for the non-deadbeat homeowners who did everything right but got screwed anyway.

We turned an extra tenth of the population into (nominal) homeowners over the course of about 20 years.  We then created a bubble based on the delusion that the value of their (and everyone else's) homes would go up 10% or more each year, forever.  No one wanted to kill the goose ... but eventually it choked on its own fat.

No One Is Innocent.

339 By Jove, I think that jolly old chap Ace is starting to get it.

340 Kudos to WSJ:in January, they warned against Boehner supporting big-spending Hal Rogers in Appropriations,.

341 Ghostcat, Great. But the Repubs promised to cut spending by 100 billion from 2010 levels. If the term spending doesn't have any governmental meaning then what did they promise? They all can go to hell for all I care. The thieving bastards.

342

331

All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played....Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.

 

Bullshit.

Laws. Can. Be. Repealed.

It's a feature of our bicameral legislature. There is NO LAW that is passed by Congress which cannot be repealed. Period.

They were supposed to do what we sent them to do. They did not, and are using the rule of thumb that you are thinking is actually Constitutional limits and making the same mistake as you are.

In short, no, they are lying and you are the one being played.

343 325 Screw this shit, I'm done, it is time to leave. Who wants to join me?

Posted by: The Great State of Florida at April 13, 2011 08:34 PM (KUjSN)

We're in!

344 I saw on David Asman's show on Fox Biz that 1 Trillion of Barry's "cuts" are the old debunked "savings" from ObamaCare.

When I think of how the mountain of regulations, taxes, bureaucratic legislative authority and bureaucratic sloth, it's like looking at the Rockies, hoping to level them with a teaspoon.

Bone-age, anyone?

345 I hope you're not turning into one of those crazy extremists, like that awful Jeff Goldstein, Ace. I thought this was polite and genteel, yet demented company.

Can't we all just get along?

346

Inspector Dipshitz -

Congress can change a law, yes, but an existing contract not so much.

 

347

Im actually sad that Ace and all you others thought this would actually work and bought into the fairy tail.

Sorry Ace but gettin played is what they teach in first term DC 101.

348 Well ghostcat, what did the repubs promise when they promise to cut spending?

349 Like most of the commenters here I am bitterly disappointed, too, but I'm not giving up just yet.   I'm going all in on Paul Ryan.  Holding out hope that somehow, some way, someone convinces him to run for President.  And somehow, some way, he upends President Fuckwad McDouchenozzle in 2012.  And somehow, some way, he can drag us kicking and screaming towards solvency.

So yeah, Paul Ryan.  I'm all in.

350 A RINO's nose is soft and bends To sense the shifting of the winds. They insist they will win races Stumbling about with measured paces.

351 $352 Million?
GOD
FUCKING
DAMNIT
ALL
TO
THE
BOWELS
OF
BLOODY
HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

352 You guys are so fucked... Oh shit, that means we're fucked too...

353

Heinie -

The only stage of federal funding that the Legislature controls is obligational  authority ... permission for the Executive to make contractual commitments up to a certain dollar level. Outlays ... actual payments ... pursuant to those contracts are established by the terms of each contract. (I'm using "contract" rather loosely here.) The deficit is strictly a revenue-minus-outlay matter, and is affected by the obligational authority only in the long run. The lag can be months to years.

354 evening dresses evening dresses uk designer evening dresses long evening dresses plus size evening dresses cheap evening dresses

355

All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played....Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.

 

Bullshit.

Laws. Can. Be. Repealed.

Yeah. I love how the people who write the laws complain about being bound by them.

Until they violate them, and then they're  totally fucking exempt.

Almost as rich as when they fuck up their taxes, and then complain how complicated the tax laws are.

WHO THE HELL WRITES THEM THAT WAY?

356 Procedural obscurantism.

357

Kudos to WSJ:in January, they warned against Boehner supporting big-spending Hal Rogers in Appropriations,.

Wait wait wait. Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

None of this is Boehners fault! It's all that nasty blackguard Hal Rogers. He stabbed Boehner in the back. Just because he's the leader doesn't mean you can blaim him for insubordinate subordinates! How could poor Boehner have known?

You're telling me Boehner's support put the dude in there?

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

It'll come to me.

Just wait.

358

And while you're on about how great math is, take a wild guess about who fucked up the economy with all those new investment strategies.  A bunch of math and hard science majors in the big Wall Street firms coming up with utterly shitbrained schemes.

Right... Wallstreet is chock full of physicists and nary a lawyer in sight.

359 I am starting to think Trump is the guy. Not only does he know how to make profits, he knows how to liquidate his losses and move on. Trump/Busey 2012

360 <quote>

57 WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO STOP FUCKING US

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 13, 2011 07:02 PM (pdRb1)

</quote>

When we start fucking them..........All of them.

361

364

Inspector Dipshitz -

Congress can change a law, yes

 

 

Ok, hey thanks for the personal attack and insult.

Sorry, if Congress is making contracts with vendors for periods extending beyond that Congress's Term (2 years) then, Constitutionally, those contracts are not valid after the next Congress is voted in. That's why multi-year contracts must continually be called back up in committee and reviewed during each term of Congress - but it is a usurpation of the Will of the Governed for a rule allowing a former Congress the ability to limit the power of the next Congress. It's fundamentally contrary to our system of Government. (Article 1 Section 

But, they have a trick to get around that Constitutional limit. It's not a contract. It'what we've been yelling about- Mandatory expenditures and programs.

Mandatory (Medicade, etc) programs have, in their enabling legislation the trick of avoiding being put on an appropriations bill by mandating by law the funding once. That isn't a contract, and is not covered under the UCC or any contract law.

It is law itself, and can and should be repealed. At least, the "mandatory" funding part - and by passing that repeal, Congress itself cannot be sued or charged. Hell, Constitutionally, it would be completely legal for Congressman Barney Frank to stab anyone he wants with a katana in the aisles of the House if he was on his way to vote. Or play Tetris like a fiend, or whatever those dingbats do all day in there. So the idea they are bound or likely to be punished is false - Constitutionally.

 But, the Federal Government is fatally broken so I wouldn't be surprised if the Congressional herd is so out of touch with the concepts of our Federal Republic that they don't realize any of this.

Anyway, a mandatory program's funding is not actually "mandatory". It's there for convenience, but a Congress can choose to either repeal that section of the enabling legislation or it can get some balls and state, "Article 1 Section 1 vests each Congress with certain powers which cannot be shared with another body; Article 1 Section 8 clearly outlines the limits of the power of the purse to each Congress in turn. Thus, any argument that the 101st Congress can tie the hands and usurp the vested power of the 112th Congress is false. Each "mandatory" program passed by a prior Congress shall be re-authorized by each Congress as it Wills."

And there is nothing anyone can do in that case.

362

You all can say what you want, honey badger don't give a shit. 

 #282 is spot on.  Hookers and blow (before it's too late)

363
 #282 is spot on.  Hookers and blow (before it's too late)

Oh, good, at least I'm not the only moron advocating the Charlie Sheen Lifestyle™.

I guess this really points up the need for the government (all of them) to abide by the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) before actually tackling budget issues.

As my dear ol' dad used to say, numbers don't lie but liars can figure.

364 Look, IT IS OVER!  So get over IT.  This economic condition can only get fixed in one possible way....a complete reboot of the system.  Saving or cutting from the budget the equivalent of a stick of chewing gum to you and me does not solve any problems or balance anything!.  I say spend, spend, spend!  The quicker this economy crashes the quicker we can remake America.  I don't want  a long agonizing wait for this.  Let's Git-R-Dun!