April 27, 2011
— Ace Readers tell me I read the Rush situation wrong-- that he isn't boosting Trump, not really, and that yesterday he was sharply critical of Trump.
They say he's just attempting to establish that which I think is 93% true -- this kid gloves treatment that has generally been granted to Obama is due for retirement. Obama can and should be hit and hit hard; just like any old routine Chicago machine operator. Which is all he is.
The 7% false stuff is about my doubts about highly-personal stuff working. As I've said before, while it's true that "negative ads work," people also like to believe they're above that, and only respond to "substance." Given a negative ad, then, they to tend to internalize it and hold it against the target, but they also hold it against the person making the attack.
Now, if it's plainly "substantive" in nature, most of that is avoided. (But oddly not all -- the squoosh-middle muddleheads are conflict averse and like policy matters being worked out quietly without their notice or input, too.)
I don't know what exactly Rush has in mind, but harsh attacks will work and are called for, so long as they're on subject matters the public is almost ready to believe, even without the attack. You can't lead public opinion by too much. If the public is almost willing to believe Obama is feckless, indecisive, and weak, then definitely hit the crap out of that.
If they're not willing to believe he's got a hidden anti-American agenda, and wishes, literally, to destroy the country through socialist rot, then by all means don't push that meme. It won't have the effect you want, and will in fact cost you more in lost goodwill and credibility.
This is why Drew and others are telling me my "Release the Transcripts" campaign is a bad idea, I'm guessing. He thinks they are not willing to believe Obama is less than very smart, and further, I'd also guess, that the middle has that Trained Aversion to thinking about anything that might implicate, even indirectly, race and Affirmative Action. Start going down that road and the Trained Aversion kicks in, and they say, "Oh, I don't want to hear about all that."
I can't rule that out. This one is on the edge. I think I'd advise most politicians to stay the hell away from this and let surrogates and pundits lead the charge on this, except few pundits have the cajones to do so.
If I were a Trump political advisor, I'd advise him to stay away from the transcripts stuff. Not because I think he's wrong. No, I think he's probably right. But politically, it will probably backfire against him, and he never will get those transcripts.
If what is suspected is true, Obama will never release those less-than-stellar transcripts. And his buddies at the ultraliberal Ivy universities will guard that secret with their very lives.
But I'm not a Trump advisor and I really do want to see this issue dug into so I'm happy that Trump is pushing it. Maybe some other people, some other pundits who appear on national TV, will get over their stupid reflexive internalized racism and just ask of Obama what they'd ask of any other candidate, especially one sold as a "genius."
I think this inquiry will both hurt Trump and hurt Obama. I am not particularly upset by either prong of that.
But yeah, generally, I'd tell actual candidates to stay off the transcript stuff (well, don't undermine those pushing it, but don't bite too hard on it yourself), but I'd also tell the whole GOP to push the issue.
If you're not running in a competitive election, or you're just a party functionary, why not start asking these questions?
It's not racist to ask if someone claimed to be a genius actually managed a B average.
Why does Obama need so much cover on this issue?
Or, as Captain Kirk asked, "Why does God need a starship?"
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Posted by: Susan Estrich at April 27, 2011 02:40 PM (XgePz)
If asked directly:
I can understand why some people might be interested. But I don't need to see them. I'm more into interested in debating his failed policies.
Continued dialog on the same subject. (The reporter who won't give up that bone)
Well I have worked with a lot of very smart, intellectual people, geniuses really, and Obama doesn't strike me as being in that league, so I can understand why some might be interested in his academic background after so much political commentary on his exceptional intelligence and performance. Again though, the policies he has implemented and his lack of leadership as President tell me enough about him to know that America doesn't need, nor can really even financially endure another term of Obama Presidency.
Continued dialog on the same subject. (The reporter really won't give up that bone)
Well I think Americans expect a certain level of transparency when it comes to the President. His grades at Harvard while pursuing a Constitutional law degree can be reasonably seen as relevant and pertinent to his suitability for the office of US President. So yes, since it is reasonable and relevant, I think the President in the interest of transparency should release those transcripts.
Continued dialog on the same subject. (You guess the obvious question)
Why yes, actually I *just* happen to have a copy of mine right here with me. Here you go.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at April 27, 2011 02:49 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2011 03:50 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Barbarian at April 27, 2011 03:52 PM (EL+OC)
Give me some time and I'll convince them.
Posted by: $10 a gallon gas at April 27, 2011 03:53 PM (uqJo6)
Should he happen to implode and take the President with him, so much the better..
Posted by: Dave C at April 27, 2011 03:54 PM (8nyvw)
Yeah, after reading the first post on Rush, I thought maybe there were 2 Rushes and I was listening to a different one than some of the commenters.
Posted by: Ronster at April 27, 2011 03:55 PM (CZBRL)
Why does God need a starship
Reminds me of a comedian I saw a few months ago saying how absurd it was that some religions say they are doing God's will killing other people. Doesn't God have the keys to the lightning bolt cabinet?
Posted by: AndrewsDad at April 27, 2011 03:55 PM (C2//T)
Rush said today that the fastest way to get rid of Donald Trump is for a Republican with gonads to step up.
That's almost a direct quote. Very close, but not exact.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 03:55 PM (TeF6E)
We need more of our metrosexuals in the GOP to start bludgeoning Ear Leader on a daily basis. Don't see it happening though.
They are quietly writing him some strongly worded letters that will never see the light of day, I'm sure. Doesn't that make you feel much better?
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 03:55 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 03:57 PM (HLVoN)
I won't.
Posted by: Some abused grad student sorting files for Obama's old advisor at April 27, 2011 03:57 PM (uqJo6)
Doesn't that make you feel much better?
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 07:55 PM (ihSHD)
Arrrgh! I feel like a day old diaper now. Thanks.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 27, 2011 03:58 PM (EL+OC)
Should he happen to implode and take the President with him, so much the better..
Yeah, collateral damage would be good. I think people find Trump appealing because he is not afraid of Obama. He is not afraid of the media. He doesn't care what the ruling class says. He has never backed down. Unfortunately, our side is always compromising and trying to be bipartisan. They are weak and scared. Trump has been a breath of fresh air in this regard. I don't want him to be our candidate, but I am glad he's definitely leaving some bruises and dirt on Teh Annointed Won.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 03:59 PM (ihSHD)
Not even close. No organization, he doesn't seem to be wanting to spend Perot-type money and no constituency. In Iowa, he'll finish behind Bachmann if he even pulls the trigger on a run.
So I see no problem with anything that he's doing.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 03:59 PM (T0NGe)
Obama has, by action and inaction, lied about his intentions since his arrival on the scene and we need to know everything about this man with his finger on the nuclear trigger.
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 04:00 PM (H+LJc)
Allah seems to be a particularly impotent god.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 04:00 PM (T0NGe)
God, I hope his Oprah taping went well.
We have no time for silliness now.
Posted by: Who Knows
I give this comment a solid B+ !
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at April 27, 2011 04:00 PM (sJTmU)
As the lawyer hater above says, Trump ain't gonna be no GOP nominee.
The time for concern will be when Trump decides to continue his fool's errand as an Independent.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:01 PM (En7xg)
Posted by: Barky The Clown at April 27, 2011 04:01 PM (SZetI)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 04:02 PM (HLVoN)
Posted by: logprof at April 27, 2011 04:02 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 04:03 PM (HLVoN)
Posted by: mare at April 27, 2011 04:03 PM (A98Xu)
That's not an exact transcript of the joke but I can repeat it with 97.4% confidence of accuracy.
Posted by: SeethsewerD2 at April 27, 2011 04:03 PM (FYCiJ)
Posted by: mare at April 27, 2011 04:03 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Barky The Clown at April 27, 2011 04:04 PM (SZetI)
steevy, if Trump gets on the ballot as an (I), we're boned.
But it's a longshot, so I'm not too worried...yet.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:04 PM (TeF6E)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 08:03 PM (HLVoN)
As I understand it, Trump doesn't have any real money. Not Perot-money.
If Trump is to be believed, his concern is getting rid of Obama. Perot's bete noir was GHWBush.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 04:06 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 08:02 PM (HLVoN)
It was and still is an astoundingly damaging thing out there and helps bolster the negative opinions of Obama. I believe his true approval ratings are below 40%
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 04:06 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: vanderleun at April 27, 2011 04:06 PM (cswem)
Posted by: steevy
No, not now, But years from now, when Michael Beschloss or some other noted presidential historian puts word to paper (or pixels to a monitor), it will reveal the clear cancer that has eaten away the heart of America.
It won't be the immense deficits and debt that bring down the country, it will be the "birthers".
It's a narrative that can't be left alone. It will be part of the greater meta-narrative that will haunt us all 'till our dying day.
Hahahahahahaha!
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at April 27, 2011 04:06 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2011 08:05 PM (yJ7/V)
I guess I'm the father of that one.
Posted by: Fred Garvin, male prostitute at April 27, 2011 04:07 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: mare at April 27, 2011 04:07 PM (A98Xu)
Abso-frickin-lutely.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 27, 2011 04:07 PM (GEPoZ)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2011 04:08 PM (TMB3S)
good point about the money, friend of William (wink wink)
Trump won't be able to raise money. And he certainly won't use any of his own money. His campaign will go as far as it can as long as it's free.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:08 PM (En7xg)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 04:09 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 04:09 PM (HLVoN)
You think I'm going to fly myself? The slugs need to something to fly me around in.
Posted by: Barack Obama's open mic at April 27, 2011 04:09 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 04:10 PM (HLVoN)
Why does Obama need so much cover on this issue?
Or, as Captain Kirk asked, "Why does God need a starship?"
So, you mean Obama IS God, then?
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 04:10 PM (kUaEF)
Rush is also screwing with some of the listeners who have a cow every time Trump is mentioned. He mentions him just to set off that crew. I think it's funny but you probably have to be a regular listener to "get it".
And he used cojones instead of gonads.
Posted by: dagny at April 27, 2011 04:12 PM (zGQK7)
________
That could work if he brought one of those marshmallow-shooting guns from that one kids gangster movie whose name escapes me at the moment. Bugsy Malone or something like that.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 04:12 PM (IrbU4)
Romney's hair has been in contact with Trump's hair and they may announce and run as Pres / Vice Pres respectively.
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 04:12 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 08:09 PM (eOXTH)
I believe this.
I think he actually won't run in any meaningful sense. I mean, he'll say he's running, but he won't have any organization.
He might make for a fun Ames Straw Poll, though.
August 13, 2011. I expect to see a lot of morons.
Posted by: Barack Obama's open mic at April 27, 2011 04:12 PM (T0NGe)
Show him as an ordinary B student and he is wounded. Show him a C student poster child for racial profiling and he is boned. Show he used a Fulbright scholarship and he is finished, especially after today's birth cert drop.
Posted by: John Morris at April 27, 2011 04:12 PM (sCRhB)
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 08:12 PM (H+LJc)
I'm tanned rested and ready.
Posted by: Sheriff Joe's scalp at April 27, 2011 04:13 PM (T0NGe)
In other news, 40,000 turkeys are scattered about after tornado hits farm in Michigan.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 27, 2011 04:13 PM (IXLvN)
Posted by: Fred Garvin, male mole prostitute at April 27, 2011 08:07 PM (T0NGe)
_________
FIFY.
Nice hash, BTW.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 04:14 PM (IrbU4)
You heard cojones, dagwood?
I heard gonads.
You must be listening to the Southwestern version of Rush, whereas I hear the Northeast version.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:14 PM (En7xg)
So, you mean Obama IS God, then?
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 08:10 PM (kUaEF)
Well the whole Triune God thing is a little confusing but...yes.
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 04:14 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Ronster at April 27, 2011 04:15 PM (CZBRL)
'Romney's hair has been in contact with Trump's hair and they may announce and run as Pres / Vice Pres respectively."
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 08:12 PM (H+LJc)
You know, that's interesting because Paris Hilton's hair would have been in contact with Lindsey Lohan's hair except they've been been... uh, sorry... got off on a wrong tangent...
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 04:15 PM (kUaEF)
Well the whole Triune God thing is a little confusing but...yes.
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 08:14 PM (H+LJc)
Who would have thought the son of god would have so many daddy issues?
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 04:15 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: looking closely at April 27, 2011 04:16 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 04:16 PM (Y0wFY)
I've been too hard on Jeff B for the past, well, several years, so I'm trying to be kinder and gentler with him.
But, yeah, I got that opposite thing with him, too. If he's against it, I know I'm for it.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:17 PM (En7xg)
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Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 04:17 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 04:17 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at April 27, 2011 04:18 PM (do977)
incandescent ragespittle
well isn't that special - they outlaw incandescent lightbulbs but keep their incandescent rage spittle!!!
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:18 PM (kcBPf)
Posted by: Robin at April 27, 2011 04:18 PM (9sFLq)
They're -1/21 on the power play!
Posted by: logprof at April 27, 2011 04:19 PM (BP6Z1)
Stupid Canadians singing about Tom Sawyer. Talk about cultural theft of ideas.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2011 04:19 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: cvb at April 27, 2011 04:20 PM (Z/l/V)
I am not so sure it would help all that much to go after Obama with stuff like the birth certificate issue. The media went after Bush when he was running for reelection and even though the Democrats pulled all kinds of stuff, he was still reelected. Maybe it was because people already knew him, and telling the American people that Bush was a dummie and a draft dodger and that he was somehow responsible for 911, did not get Kerry elected. It was fun for the left, but it did not win them the election.
It is one thing to take off the gloves when it comes to policy, but to make personal attacks that blow up in your face...well, I doubt if that helps anyone but Obama. What if they get his grades and they are pretty good? And what if they aren't? Do people care one way or the other?
I think most people are more concerned with the price of gas and high unemployment than they are this stuff.
Posted by: Terrye at April 27, 2011 04:20 PM (T0tnd)
One thing about Trump, he does know how to create jobs and employ people. He has had huge business successes and failures. Obama has never employed anyone in his life. Shoot, Obama's never had a real job where he had to make a payroll, live and die on a budget, or create/produce anything.
Obama doesn't have a clue about "the art of the deal" because he never sponsored any meaningful legislation in all his time as a Senator. He has abdicated executive duties to Nancy and Harry. He thinks he can rule by executive order instead of trying to work anything out with the other side.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 04:20 PM (ihSHD)
Stupid Canadians singing about Tom Sawyer. Talk about cultural theft of ideas."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2011 08:19 PM (7utQ2)
Now, now, don't forget Canada's great contributions to Western culture. Who taught us to say "Ooot!," after all?
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2011 04:20 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 08:12 PM (H+LJc)
Fuck 'em.
Posted by: The 'Stache at April 27, 2011 04:20 PM (BP6Z1)
We could be screwed.
Posted by: The New Gen. Patton at April 27, 2011 04:20 PM (FC4Df)
No. I'm thinking "B". Lots of A's in upper-level courses (i.e., easy A's in electives and subjective grading) C's generally in required courses.
Remember, he majored in political science. He wasn't exactly loading up with calculus or organic chemistry.
I suspect, instead, that his transcript is larded up with touchy-feely liberal arts stuff that, with the benefit of hindsight, probably doesn't look too good.
I think it'll be clear that he didn't take anything that wasn't soft if he didn't have to. I think the real killer, though, is the titles of his courses. You know at least 3 have to have Marx in the title.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 04:21 PM (T0NGe)
What other kind of professors are there?
Posted by: The Notion at April 27, 2011 04:21 PM (hD0CU)
Posted by: not the droid you seek at April 27, 2011 04:22 PM (6MNtp)
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at April 27, 2011 04:22 PM (le5qc)
The Bruins.
They are not closers.
Indeed I just hope they aren't losers again tonight. sigh.
Been a tough day I mean did you see what the evil Republicans in the MA state house did today limiting collective bargaining for the unions!! Wait - are there any Repbulicans in that house? Not many. I guess I got that to be happy about at least.
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:22 PM (kcBPf)
well isn't that special - they outlaw incandescent lightbulbs but keep their incandescent rage spittle!!!
If you like your incandescent rage spittle, you can keep your incandescent rage spittle.
Posted by: Barack Hussein Oblahblah at April 27, 2011 04:22 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: ErikW at April 27, 2011 04:23 PM (NgJve)
No. I'm thinking "B". Lots of A's in upper-level courses (i.e., easy A's in electives and subjective grading) C's generally in required courses.
Wrong again, Pal! I gave myself a solid B+!
Posted by: Barack Hussein Oblahblah at April 27, 2011 04:24 PM (ihSHD)
No it wasn't.
You know what we need? We need a Cosmo quiz on Obama.
Some stuff that we all know about him, but that the average person would be shocked to know.
It has to be soundbyte-sized stuff. Easy to digest.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 04:24 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: GONZOTX at April 27, 2011 04:24 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2011 04:25 PM (TMB3S)
DrewM. and Jeff B. can run the Axis of Vagina without you for awhile.
Yo, yo, yo! That's our territory, boyz!
Posted by: Joy Behar, Rosie O'Donnell, and Whoopie Goldberg at April 27, 2011 04:26 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: MJ at April 27, 2011 04:26 PM (BKOsZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 04:26 PM (eOXTH)
His background was already vetted in the 2008 campaign
Well he wasn't "vetted - vetted" that's for sure.
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:27 PM (kcBPf)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 04:27 PM (T0NGe)
I see Trump as a modern day P.T. Barnum.
He'll be a barker for his own circus, make lots of money and make one of the Greatest Shows on Earth.
While he amuses himself and makes money, he can be temporarily useful.
Let him be one of the circus clowns, who runs in circles and pokes sticks at today's Woodrow Wilson.
Posted by: Who Knows at April 27, 2011 04:27 PM (1cx/R)
Posted by: GONZOTX at April 27, 2011 08:24 PM (ExKx3)
President McCain thanks you.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 04:27 PM (f4gk9)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 04:27 PM (Y0wFY)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 27, 2011 04:28 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2011 04:28 PM (Fo83G)
Hey, I'm just workin' for the weekend.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 04:29 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 27, 2011 04:29 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: ErikW at April 27, 2011 08:23 PM (NgJve)
Vietnam vet too. Go figure.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 27, 2011 04:29 PM (EL+OC)
But wait...I'm totally for exploring the "Transcript" stuff with Obama. I'm looking FORWARD to Trump hammering him on that. I've said that throughout these various threads. Only DrewM. seems to be opposed to it.
So what side are you on now, Soothsayers?
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:29 PM (NjYDy)
Posted by: Palerider at April 27, 2011 04:31 PM (dkExz)
If I have to hear Tragically Hip, Helix, Nickelback, Trews or Gordon fucking Lightfoot one more time I am going to stab my radio to death.
What you left out HEART?
What about Love ...
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:31 PM (kcBPf)
I'm no Birther, but as a prestige-whore lawyer I *AM* a Transcripter.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:31 PM (NjYDy)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 08:27 PM (Y0wFY)
--Beats Bryan Adams.
Arcade Fire kicks ass though, and Nelly Furtado . . . well she's great at least to watch.
Posted by: logprof at April 27, 2011 04:33 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 08:27 PM (Y0wFY)
Is BTO still around, or are they gone again?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 04:33 PM (f4gk9)
Cue up "Something for Nothing" from the 2112 album. The lyrics are guaranteed to give any liberal Democrat within listening range a seizure.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 27, 2011 04:33 PM (cd11S)
You know what we need? We need a Cosmo quiz on Obama.
Some stuff that we all know about him, but that the average person would be shocked to know.
It has to be soundbyte-sized stuff. Easy to digest.
Neat idea. I like it. 10-second radio spots on music stations. 15-second spots on all the TV networks.
Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:33 PM (8ay4x)
You like us, don't you?
Posted by: Crash Test Dummies at April 27, 2011 04:33 PM (SwkdU)
If Trump isn't a serious candidate why does anyone care that he's beating the tar out of Obummer and teeing the POSOTUS up for a true conservative?
Posted by: Confused at April 27, 2011 04:33 PM (VxqUc)
@125,
The problem with being a Transcripter is that they could be released right before th eelction showing him to be the genius the media says he is.....and then what?
Posted by: Jimi at April 27, 2011 04:34 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: cvb at April 27, 2011 08:20 PM (Z/l/V)
--You're kidding, right?
You forgot to insert the laugh track.
Posted by: logprof at April 27, 2011 04:34 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Jesse Jackson at April 27, 2011 04:34 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 08:27 PM (En7xg)
--What about his Grand-mama?
Posted by: logprof recalls the '90s at April 27, 2011 04:35 PM (BP6Z1)
That way lies victory. Do not play his game where he gets to say "Look over there!" while the country burns.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2011 04:35 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: MJ at April 27, 2011 04:36 PM (BKOsZ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 04:36 PM (Y0wFY)
Posted by: Blackford Oakes at April 27, 2011 04:36 PM (Klxrr)
I hear a British minority politician complain that the press is very comfortable with those currently in power across the western world and intend to keep them there.
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 04:37 PM (H+LJc)
Then so what? It's not like people are going to say "ZOMG I guess the last 4 years didn't happen! I guess he's awesome again!"
Besides, people are getting caught up in the immediacy of the moment here: we are more than a YEAR AND A HALF away from the election, i.e. several lifetimes. This is a story which will play out, if at all, over the next few months or so at most. It'll be dead long before the real race begins.
Which is one reason why the strategist in me says it's a win-win bet to go for broke. Again, it's about softening the motherfucker up in advance of the real game. Take the sheen off of him, make him look like just another sadsack failed President. Remember folks, Carter was originally hailed as a "super smart nuclear scientist" before he became a hapless clown dishing out "more mush from the wimp."
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:37 PM (NjYDy)
--What about his Grand-mama?
wow, just the other night Cedric Maxwell mentioned Grand-mama, which I haven't heard in ages.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:37 PM (En7xg)
Seriously? You feel that Obama got a proper vetting? Had a Repulican tried to pull the bullcrap Obama pulled on his birth certificate, the media would have howled the stars out of the sky! The media got away with painting the guy to be a fricken genius - and they still are - look at Milbank's article today! They all need to be disabused of that notion. Until that veneer gets stripped away, Obama still remains untouchable. Yes, the "real" issues will come, but first, his general character and nature must be revealed.
Posted by: Robin at April 27, 2011 04:37 PM (9sFLq)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 04:37 PM (Y0wFY)
Don't get me started on the Canadian TV shows.
The one about the Mulsim family on the canadian praire looked funny ... can't remember where I saw the clip (probably here?).
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:38 PM (kcBPf)
Vietnam vet too. Go figure.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 27, 2011 08:29 PM (EL+OC)
As a broadast radio operator for Armed Forces Network, no shit.
Pat's been added to the prayer list.
Posted by: ErikW at April 27, 2011 04:38 PM (NgJve)
You are literally not even reading this fucking thread, are you? Not even paying the slightest bit of attention to what people are actually saying. Idiot.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:38 PM (NjYDy)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 08:36 PM (Y0wFY)
You can get started on fucking off!
Posted by: Ricky at April 27, 2011 04:38 PM (BP6Z1)
EoJ, how do you feel about Alanis Morrisette, Nellie Furtardo, Avril Lavigne, Justin Bieber, Brian Adams, Michael Buble, Bare Naked Ladies, Shania Twain, Celine Dion?
(I only like Buble and BNL)
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 04:39 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Palerider at April 27, 2011 04:39 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Beach Bum Baraky at April 27, 2011 04:39 PM (oNphh)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2011 04:39 PM (TMB3S)
Don't get me started on the Canadian TV shows.
I actually preferred CBUT's coverage of the Olympics over ours.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 04:40 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 04:40 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Martin B. at April 27, 2011 04:40 PM (7bRCJ)
I actually preferred CBUT's coverage of the Olympics over ours.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 08:40 PM (ihSHD)
--Hockey Night in Canada is also pretty good.
Posted by: logprof at April 27, 2011 04:41 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 04:42 PM (Y0wFY)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 04:42 PM (eOXTH)
>>Yet I continue to comment.
Yeah, but that's just how you roll, Soothsayers. Now that you've heard about Breitbart's reading habits you're only confirmed in it.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:42 PM (NjYDy)
If I have to hear Tragically Hip, Helix, Nickelback, Trews or Gordon fucking Lightfoot one more time I am going to stab my radio to death.
What? No Celine Deon?
Which, btw, is the worst thing Canada has done to the US since the burning of Washington DC.
Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 27, 2011 04:42 PM (paOeu)
I stopped reading this thread an hour ago.
Yet I continue to comment.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 08:41 PM (En7xg)
better quality comments that way
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 27, 2011 04:42 PM (6IReR)
Yeah, because the two are mutually exclusive.
Posted by: The Notion at April 27, 2011 04:42 PM (hD0CU)
What? No Celine Deon?
Which, btw, is the worst thing Canada has done to the US since the burning of Washington DC.
Anne Murray?
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:43 PM (kcBPf)
The one about the Mulsim family on the canadian praire looked funny ... can't remember where I saw the clip (probably here?).
"Little Mosque On The Praire"
Posted by: Anita Dunn at April 27, 2011 04:44 PM (ihSHD)
I know, I know. But what is more effective, arguing about font sizes on birth certificates or asking the jackass about gas prices?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2011 04:44 PM (7utQ2)
Anne Murray?
Hey, I love Anne Murray. And yes, blaring Celine at high decibels would be considered torture and cruelly inhumane.
Posted by: Anita Dunn at April 27, 2011 04:45 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 04:45 PM (eOXTH)
Yes I agree with all of you. We need TRUMP out of the way so all of the RINO'S can run wild!!
Rino's are born free. And die at the general election.
Timmy Pawshuckslenty is a douche bag.
Huckafuckatree is a douche bag.
Gingrich. Summers Eve.
Bitch Daniels. Little teeny douche bag.
Have I missed anyone??
Anyone? Buehler? Massengil??
Posted by: gus at April 27, 2011 04:45 PM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 04:45 PM (Y0wFY)
The problem we run into is when we become invested in saying he did poorly. That is where some of the birther stuff went awry for some. People who were invested in him being born in Kenya did look silly - however, it was not wrong to question why he was so resistant to releasing the actual one - AND it didn't even require him to travel to Hawaii.... it was a mere phone call away. Him stubbornly refusing to release it just seemed curiouser and curiouser the longer it went on.
Posted by: Robin at April 27, 2011 04:46 PM (9sFLq)
Unless he produces a campaign organization stat, he won't make it on the ballot in most states.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 27, 2011 04:46 PM (Pk7of)
(I only like Buble and BNL)
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 08:39 PM (ihSHD)
Buble has that song "Just Haven't Met You Yet" that isn't creepy at all...no, not at all...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 04:46 PM (f4gk9)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2011 04:47 PM (eOXTH)
Did you guys order 500 kgs of fertilizer and 300 gallons of diesel?
Posted by: Terry Nichols at April 27, 2011 04:47 PM (SwkdU)
Trump as a gatekeeper against RINO's.
I think I'll eat this block of Velveeta to lower my cholesterol.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2011 04:47 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Robin at April 27, 2011 04:47 PM (9sFLq)
Posted by: mpfs at April 27, 2011 04:48 PM (3TjSM)
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:49 PM (kcBPf)
I think I'd advise most politicians to stay the hell away from this and let surrogates and pundits lead the charge on this, except few pundits have the cajones to do so.
This is the exact same thing I said about the birth certificate when it became an issue. I said "let WorldNut Daily and the others go after it".
A fucking genius, I am.
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2011 04:49 PM (7+pP9)
Until the next shiny object comes along...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 27, 2011 04:49 PM (Pk7of)
We agree on that. But here's the thing: it's a two-layered game. I would be mortified and worried if our Prez candidates started picking up this Transcript stuff (or any other small beer, for that matter). You're right that they should focus on the big stuff: horrible fiscal stewardship, Obamacare, incoherent foreign policy, gas prices etc. etc. etc. But us? And useless vanity candidates like Trump? We have a different set of operating parameters.
This, incidentally, is EXACTLY the sort of game that the left has been running successfully against us for over a decade -- hitting hard on this nasty crap below the belt while leaving the Official Politican Types free to float above it all. If the blogosphere and talk radio is worth a sweet goddamn as a meme generator, it will be to push this stuff.
We did it with Kerry's Swift Boat stuff, to be perfectly frank, and it succeeded. Nobody wanted to touch that shit in the MSM or even the mainstream GOP political class. But we forced it out there and it had an effect (and rightfully so, because Kerry was a lying disgraceful weasel about his war service). Why not try and replicate the same thing here? It goes to the heart of Obama's identity and character as a nominee.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:49 PM (NjYDy)
Headline: Disturbing Revelations in Probe of Possible Gas Price Manipulation
""There are a couple things that Â… are disturbing,'' Holder said, declining to elaborate."
---I don't know about any of you, but I feel like I'm being jerked around. Holder should be fired.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:50 PM (TeF6E)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2011 04:50 PM (7utQ2)
Taping an Oprah segment. What a dick.
Posted by: mpfs at April 27, 2011 04:50 PM (3TjSM)
Buble has that song "Just Haven't Met You Yet" that isn't creepy at all...no, not at all...
Not if you've seen what he looks like. He's a cutie pie. Now if he was some creepy looking, homely guy, than yeah, it would be creepy!
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 04:50 PM (ihSHD)
Candidates should remain focused on substantive issues and the Democrats abuse of procedure.
We shouldn't expect conservative candidates to make the personal and nasty arguments. That's up to us. Take every opportunity to slam this guy for every one of his numerous flaws, particularly his serial lies, lack of transparency etc, when just bullshitting or when talking loud in check-out line. Try to make sure everyone you know and everyone you just met are fired up to vote Obama out of office and those that aren't fired up have their doubts..
I don't expect candidates to carry that water, eg. transcripts, Obama condescension, whatever. If this were a war, it must be total war. In total war targets aren't limited. All are good. Media too. Let these mushy independents in on the secret that the MFM lies through omission daily. Anything else is like going golfing and declaring ahead of time that it would be wrong to use the sand wedge or the five iron.
Shit, I have no confidence that the pols themselves can pull through. I think we may have to drag them to victory. Start today.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at April 27, 2011 04:50 PM (qwK3S)
Don Cherry is the cat's ass. Did you see him at Rob Ford's inauguration?
"Put that in your pipe and smoke it you lefty kooks!"
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 08:45 PM (Y0wFY)
--I was cracking up about his comments about bikers and pinkos.
Of course, here in Canada it's "inflammatory"
Posted by: logprof at April 27, 2011 04:51 PM (BP6Z1)
"Donald Trump also stepped back into the limelight for a final bow. 'For the first time in his life, he is seriously thinking about running for president.' Of course, itÂ’s not true: Trump made the same threat in January 2000. His short-lived presidential foray was covered by a January 2000 Slate article: 'Trump is considering a run for president.' It was not just a passing fancy, as Trump published a campaign book, The America We Deserve, one week before the DowÂ’s Grand Supercycle top on January 14, 2000. HeÂ’s back, at another market top." - Elliot Wave
Posted by: The Robot Devil at April 27, 2011 04:51 PM (g3OU+)
And as the south blows up from tornado destruction and people die where is our Asshole in Chief?
Taping an Oprah segment. What a dick.
Yeah, too bad that tornado didn't make it up further north to The White City.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 04:51 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2011 04:51 PM (l5dj7)
Not if you've seen what he looks like. He's a cutie pie. Now if he was some creepy looking, homely guy, than yeah, it would be creepy!
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 08:50 PM (ihSHD)
You know who else was a sharp looking guy? That Ted Bundy dude. Sorry runningrn, but creepy is creepy. And that song is creepy, in a "it puts the lotion on it's skin" sort of way.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 04:52 PM (f4gk9)
You can't seriously be suggesting that you would support Trump in a GOP primary, are you? Seriously? Let's not kid ourselves here: the man is a half-Democrat opportunist clown who is FAR MORE RINO-ISH than any of the guys you just dumped on, Mitt & Huck included. You are literally a drooling retard incapable of critical thinking if you don't see that. There's really no debating this.
However, it's possible I may have misunderstood you.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:52 PM (NjYDy)
Because it's easier to scream "Racist!" than it is to justify mind-boggling deficits or this truly stupid offshore drilling ban.
We should be relentless with facts, not assertions.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 27, 2011 04:53 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: mpfs at April 27, 2011 08:48 PM (3TjSM)
"If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is...and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them." -Jack HandeyPosted by: ErikW at April 27, 2011 04:53 PM (NgJve)
Posted by: MJ at April 27, 2011 04:54 PM (BKOsZ)
Trump is becoming a right of center version of Chuck Schummer - someone who can capture media attention with ease and not afraid to say things that ordinary people want to hear.
As for the rest of the GOP - who gives a rat f**k.
Spineless rat-bastards are just country club mirror images of the majority socialist wing of the demo-rat party. Screw 'em both.
Posted by: Murph at April 27, 2011 04:55 PM (StqpO)
A running joke at work used to be "C students run the world". Not so much a joke anymore.
Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2011 04:55 PM (VMcEw)
There are a couple things that Â… are disturbing,'' Holder said
That would be 2 NBPs standing around the gas pumps with baseball bats.
Posted by: Ronster at April 27, 2011 04:56 PM (CZBRL)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 08:52 PM (f4gk9)
Seriously? Have you looked at the lyrics? It's more a "I've had my heart broken before, but I know that love is out there, I just haven't met that girl yet" kind of thing. It's more a song of optimism and that he hasn't given up on love.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 04:56 PM (ihSHD)
It was cool to see Carlo Mota (who briefly played Chloe O'Brien's ex-husband in 24) have a role in it.
Posted by: logprof at April 27, 2011 04:57 PM (BP6Z1)
I read the earlier post about Rush and I thought Ace was wrong, Rush wasn't as nice about Trump today. I think when someone gives your charity $100,000.00 you have to be nice to them for at least one week, at least that's what I always do.
I also thought that it has been pretty funny today when Ace did that stuff in red on each post. I have an incurable disease that is killing the gray matter in my brain ten times faster than normal aging would do, so I am heartened to find out that my scattered thinking and indecisiveness will now be thought of as a sign of genius.
Posted by: xlap13Q at April 27, 2011 04:57 PM (3AnLn)
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 08:49 PM (NjYDy)
Your overall point is good, but their Official Politician Types don't float above. They just aren't held accountable for it like ours would be.
Posted by: The Notion at April 27, 2011 04:57 PM (hD0CU)
The only thing Holder found 'disturbing' today was his tiny pecker in his hand.
This guy is a political stooge.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 04:58 PM (TeF6E)
Who would have thought the son of god would have so many daddy issues?
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 08:15 PM (T0NGe)
We have a winnah!
Posted by: beedubya at April 27, 2011 04:58 PM (AnTyA)
Fuck yeah.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 04:58 PM (NjYDy)
Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2011 04:58 PM (l5dj7)
O'Asshat is not a deep thinker, not like Jack Handey.
My favorite Jack Handey quote is from the book What I'd Tell the Martians (or somethign like that) when he wrote about talking to kids. Quick paraphrase that a kid asked what rain was and he said "Rain is God crying" so the kid asks "Why is God crying?" and he said "I don't know but it was probably something you did"
frickin hilarious (imo)
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 04:59 PM (kcBPf)
Seriously? Have you looked at the lyrics? It's more a "I've had my heart broken before, but I know that love is out there, I just haven't met that girl yet" kind of thing. It's more a song of optimism and that he hasn't given up on love.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 08:56 PM (ihSHD)
Haven't read them, just heard it on the radio. He's telling some yet-unknown woman how their relationship is going to go. Nope, not creepy at all, IMO. YMMV (and obviously it does).
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 05:00 PM (f4gk9)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 27, 2011 09:01 PM (En7xg)
Well, DiNero was in the tank for Obummer.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 05:03 PM (f4gk9)
Who would have thought the son of god would have so many daddy issues?
Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2011 08:15 PM (T0NGe)
I saw his birth certificate, says right on there he ain't the Messiah.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 27, 2011 05:03 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2011 05:04 PM (TMB3S)
Black holes, galaxy mergers, gamma ray bursts and magnetars. Super massive black holes can figuratively "lasso" a planet out of the solar system. A clash between two galaxies can result in a barbaric ritual called "galactic cannibalism" in which the dominant galaxy's super massive black hole eats the weaker one. Magnetars are a cosmic magnetic force so strong it could wipe out data on every electronic porn collection on the planet.
Dude, you try flying thru that shit. That's it, Ace, try whacking off to midget tranny porn with hand cramps!
Posted by: G*d at April 27, 2011 05:04 PM (g3OU+)
Rush did - he said all they would have to do is ANNOUNCE more drilling, and the price would drop. In fact, he thinks Obama is deliberately driving up the price with his policies only to announce next summer reopening drilling to make the prices drop overnight.
Posted by: Robin at April 27, 2011 05:04 PM (9sFLq)
The name Kenya did not come into play until 1963.... So how could it be in 1961 on a birth certificate a place of birth is listed as Kenya before it was even a country named Kenya???
I am not so sure about that, if you bing articles on kenya in 1960 you will find a bunch and they call it kenya. If you bing map of africa for 1960 it will show the country of kenya.
I don't have a clue about the hospital.
Posted by: robtr at April 27, 2011 05:05 PM (MtwBb)
Fuck yeah.
Posted by: Jeff B. at April 27, 2011 08:58 PM (NjYDy)
It'd be okay if there was a payoff but there isn't. Trump is an agent provacateur without a reach around.
Posted by: ErikW at April 27, 2011 05:05 PM (NgJve)
ot but did anyone see the youtube vid of the guy using adobe illustator on obama's b/c yet?
i'm going to try it when my girl gets home to see if it's real (i have the suite 5 but wayyyyy to dumb to use it)
Posted by: navycopjoe aka peroni beer czar at April 27, 2011 05:05 PM (EOu3d)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 27, 2011 05:06 PM (ovf7k)
I saw his birth certificate, says right on there he ain't the Messiah.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 27, 2011 09:03 PM (6IReR)
It also proved once and for all that there was no imacculate conception.
Posted by: robtr at April 27, 2011 05:06 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 05:07 PM (8ay4x)
False. It was know as the Colony and Protectorate of Kenya starting in the '20 or '30s.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2011 09:04 PM (TMB3S)
And before that it was know as "The Land Where Women Walk Around with No Tops" or "Moron Dream Country"
Posted by: G*d at April 27, 2011 05:08 PM (g3OU+)
Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2011 05:08 PM (l5dj7)
What a load of bullshit. Get Erik Erikson to ban anyone who mentions it while you're at it. This is the same crap we heard about discussing his birth certifacte and today the schmuck had to release it because a majority of people weren't actually sure the guy was born in HI despite no real evidence to the contrary. If I was advising Trump I'd tell him full speed ahead. Why?
Because Obama got into office running as a blank slate with some nice happy thoughts and promises written on it. Over the past few years those thoughts and promises have gotten steadily erased as each has proven to be a fraud. People are not happy about that. Now there are lots of open spaces on that slate and not surprisingly things like "Where's the Birth certificate?" are sticking because Obama doesn't have anything good to write there. Obama erased that today. The answer to that isn't let's be nice and just play Tic Tac Toe on the blank slate. You replace it with "Where's the Transcripts?" and force Obama to erase it...or leave it there and let people wonder. People are starting to wonder. Either Obama gives them some more hopey, changey stuff or we give them something.
Posted by: Rocks at April 27, 2011 05:09 PM (th0op)
Posted by: Martin B. at April 27, 2011 05:09 PM (7bRCJ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 05:10 PM (Y0wFY)
Posted by: MJ at April 27, 2011 05:11 PM (BKOsZ)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2011 05:12 PM (HLVoN)
Posted by: I'mWithStupid at April 27, 2011 05:13 PM (xhNbo)
If Trump needs defending, then Trump is not Trump.
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at April 27, 2011 05:14 PM (do977)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 27, 2011 05:15 PM (ovf7k)
Posted by: Martin B. at April 27, 2011 05:15 PM (7bRCJ)
Trump ain't running for President. Period. Not this time, not next time, not any time. He's never even considered actually running, not seriously. He doesn't need to. He makes more money than the POTUS, has more power than POTUS, and doesn't have to kiss hands and shake babies every four years to keep his job.
And this, more than anything else, is what scares the fuck out of BlowBamma. Trump has absolutely nothing to lose in any of this. He already has a job, more money than he could ever hope to spend, private planes, yachts, you name it. Unlike someone like Huckabee or Mittens, if he actually ran - and lost - he'd just shrug it off and head back to Florida to make some more money. So - he has no reason not to keep plugging away at all the stuff that Barry has managed to keep secret (with the help of the MFM). All the carefully crafted subterfuge, gone in a flash, and all done by someone who is just digging around for the hell of it.
Brilliant.
Posted by: antisocialist at April 27, 2011 05:15 PM (Rwudm)
Posted by: I'mWithStupid at April 27, 2011 09:13 PM (xhNbo)
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: He's With Me at April 27, 2011 05:16 PM (f4gk9)
Became the Colony and Protectorate of Kenya in 1920
Obama senior would have been a British citizen. Not Kenyan.
Quite right about the hospital.
Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 05:16 PM (H+LJc)
And before that it was know as "The Land Where Women Walk Around with No Tops" or "Moron Dream Country"
Posted by: G*d at April 27, 2011 09:08 PM (g3OU+)
Where did you get that info from?
Posted by: National Geographic at April 27, 2011 05:17 PM (BP6Z1)
I also thought that it has been pretty funny today when Ace did that stuff in red on each post. I have an incurable disease that is killing the gray matter in my brain ten times faster than normal aging would do, so I am heartened to find out that my scattered thinking and indecisiveness will now be thought of as a sign of genius.
So sorry to hear that.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 05:17 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2011 05:17 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: muckdog at April 27, 2011 05:18 PM (aZxcE)
Respectful disagreement. (1) When it comes to Affirmative Action (AA) the only real aversion the middle has is for affirmative action itself. Whenever they have been given the chance to vote on it, they reject it by wide margins, even in such reliably blue states as California and Michigan. In Michigan in 2006, when ending affirmative action was on the ballot along with the Governor, the gutless (and clueless) Republican gubernatorial candidate DeVos opposed ending affirmative action, aligning himself with the Proto-Obama Democrat incumbent Granholm. DeVos got his ass handed to him but the constitutional amendment passed by 56 percent, a vote identical to what the Democrat governor. That means an awful lot of folks who pulled the lever for a Democratic governor also pulled the lever to end affirmative action. (And the voters will never be honest with pollsters about their real views on affirmative action either. A month before the election where it passed with 56 percent one poll had the amendment being defeated with only 40 percent supporting. Either those polled were lying or every undecided voter broke in favor. )
(2) A lot of voters who took the leap of faith to vote for Obama in 2008 have got to be wondering, what the hell happened? They are going to want an explanation. Some A lot may be willing to go back to square one with the guy and start asking some basic "who exactly is this guy?" kinds of questions. One such question could be, is he as smart as the media led us to believe? and another could be, "how come we don't know as much about him as we were told about McCain, Kerry, Gore, Bush, Clinton, etc?
Posted by: JFK's Adrenal Gland at April 27, 2011 05:18 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: Martin B. at April 27, 2011 05:18 PM (7bRCJ)
Posted by: uncle joe at April 27, 2011 05:19 PM (kcBPf)
I saw his birth certificate, says right on there he ain't the Messiah.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 27, 2011 09:03 PM (6IReR)
It also proved once and for all that there was no imacculate conception.
Rush made the comment that the most surprising thing about the Birth Certificate was that Obama was actually born.
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 05:21 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: delmar at April 27, 2011 05:21 PM (d9sox)
Me, neither...except as a purely voyeuristic endeavor.
I keep hearing how he must be some kind of genius because he graduated magna cum laude. Whoop-de-fuckin'-do. I graduated magna cum laude, too. It's not that big a deal.
Now, if he had discovered the secret recipe for Val-U-Rite, well...
Posted by: antisocialist at April 27, 2011 05:21 PM (Rwudm)
@80: "Regardless of your feelings for Romney, he will run, act and lead like a conservative."
Of course he will. Of course, conservative politicans tend to be pussies, so that isn't really a stretch.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 27, 2011 05:21 PM (xy9wk)
The Kurds?
Are you serious?
Yes, we'll allow the Kurds their share.............so they can continue to advance civilization and our quest for a manned Mars mission.
The fucking Kurds?
WHEY!1111!
Posted by: LITTLE MISS MUFFET at April 27, 2011 05:22 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Martin B. at April 27, 2011 09:09 PM (7bRCJ)
Was this before or after Hannity removed his pud from Levin's anus?
Posted by: Barbarian at April 27, 2011 05:22 PM (EL+OC)
I'd hammer him more on gas prices, oil prices, commodity prices, the declining value of the dollar, high unemployment, another War of Choice in Libya, etc.
Ask and you shall receive, Muckdog.
Also on the energy issue, Trump declares: “Obama’s moratorium on drilling has been a total disaster. How could this guy have people not being able to travel, not being able to fill up their tanks with gasoline, and he’s got a moratorium on drilling? We should drill in Alaska, and we should drill all over until we don’t need foreign oil. We should use natural gas and clean coal. We should use everything in our power.”
Noting that the prices of food and clothing have also been rising, Trump says “part of that is because the dollar is so weak. He’s allowed the dollar to fail.
“He likes it because short term it’s a little bit good for the country in terms of trade. But long term, it’s a disaster. He’s allowed the dollar to go so low that it is becoming a laughingstock, just like him.”
Ha!
Posted by: CiceroKid at April 27, 2011 05:22 PM (Ms01c)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 05:24 PM (f4gk9)
Me, neither...except as a purely voyeuristic endeavor.
I keep hearing how he must be some kind of genius because he graduated magna cum laude. Whoop-de-fuckin'-do. I graduated magna cum laude, too. It's not that big a deal.
Now, if he had discovered the secret recipe for Val-U-Rite, well
Yeah, whoop-de-doo-doo-too! I graduated Magna Cum Laude also, and I'm no brainiac. Course, I only had to take one math class: Probability and Statistics. (Nervously looks around for Amishdude).
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 05:25 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: CiceroKid at April 27, 2011 05:26 PM (Ms01c)
National Geographic maps from 1960 show "Kenya."
Let it go.
My map just says Here There Be Dragons but it may be a little out of date.
Posted by: Vasco De Gama at April 27, 2011 05:26 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 05:27 PM (f4gk9)
Posted by: Cicero (The Adult) at April 27, 2011 05:27 PM (QKKT0)
>>ot but did anyone see the youtube vid of the guy using adobe illustator on obama's b/c yet?
Was his name Chuck Dickson?
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 05:28 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 05:28 PM (f4gk9)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 27, 2011 05:29 PM (ovf7k)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 09:27 PM (f4gk9)
Um...er...are you sure it's the candy sayin' that???
Posted by: antisocialist at April 27, 2011 05:29 PM (Rwudm)
You like us, don't you?
Posted by: Crash Test Dummies at April 27, 2011 08:33 PM (SwkdU)
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Cracka-ass cracka reggae guy oot and aboot in Toronto, eh!
Posted by: Snow at April 27, 2011 05:29 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2011 05:29 PM (l5dj7)
Jeff B. first of all good work, yesterday - I watched it unfold! It was great. Now, Rush addressed the issue you just put forth - a woman caller was on about Trump being a doofus, and expressed concern that he would spoil it for others. Rush politely led her through the current list of contenders and asked her if she thought they would win against Obama. When she realized none of them, and it was so funny listening to her reaction to each of them - then Rush said so what is wrong with Trump? Or something like that. His point being that those of us who want Obama out would vote for a wet bag of potato chips if it was running against Obama. The media isn't going to like anyone of the current bunch contemplating running, and will like any more conservative even less. So, just relax. If Trump decides to run and he wins the nomination, we will support him over Obama. Hopefully someone else comes along, but for now, Trump is the only one really out there taking Obama on.
Posted by: Robin at April 27, 2011 05:29 PM (9sFLq)
The peach mango Crazy Cores Skittles are da bombity bomb BTW.
Well, I've successfully managed to pick out and eat all the flavors I like the best from my bag of Starbucks Sour Jelly Beans. Sigh!
Posted by: runningrn at April 27, 2011 05:31 PM (ihSHD)
Um...er...are you sure it's the candy sayin' that???
Posted by: antisocialist at April 27, 2011 09:29 PM (Rwudm)
That's my story, etc etc
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 27, 2011 05:31 PM (f4gk9)
So sorry to hear that.
Thank you. That's the first time I've said it out loud, so to speak.
I went on a field trip with my daughter's fifth grade class last year to a "green house". The tour guide was telling the kids that someday they would have to live by riding a bike to make the toaster work, or the TV, all that crap. When we were driving home I told my daughter that woman was insulting her whole class because she didn't give future people any credit for coming up with a better solution to the problems of today.
I think the same way about my health. It's incurable now, but it's not deadly, so I have time for someone to come up with something that will help me. I will say though, having the country going to hell at the same time is kind of bad timing.
Posted by: xlap13Q at April 27, 2011 05:32 PM (3AnLn)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 27, 2011 05:32 PM (ovf7k)
@149: "Jeff has a girlfriend, not a wife. "
Just so long as he knows that when we say he has acute vaginitis, we're not complimenting her.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 27, 2011 05:33 PM (xy9wk)
@163: "--Hockey Night in Canada is also pretty good."
That's why we all fuck doggie-style: so we can both watch, eh!
Posted by: Canadians at April 27, 2011 05:36 PM (xy9wk)
And by November 2012, no undecided voter is going to be much interested in drawing inferences about Obama's likely performance as POTUS in 2013-2017 based on Obama's college or law school transcripts. It's not that the old evidence will become irrelevant, it's just that it's going to be massively outweighed by the much more obvious (indeed, inescapable) and much more current evidence of Obama's massive incompetence combined with fiscal and regulatory recklessness as POTUS.
The problem with this thinking? Obama will run on the "give it time" line the same Bush did with the Iraq War. The transcripts show why more time isn't going to help.We need to give people an explanation of why this was bad policy to begin with. Part of that explanation is that it was made by a pretty mediocre politician, that's why.
Posted by: Rocks at April 27, 2011 05:38 PM (th0op)
More like a bull on Viagra running loose in a china shop of Obama statues and commemorativeplates. coins.
fify.
Posted by: Montel Williams at April 27, 2011 05:38 PM (kcBPf)
Posted by: Uncle Joe at April 27, 2011 05:39 PM (kcBPf)
@203: "Yeah, too bad that tornado didn't make it up further north to The White City."
Yeah, then it would just be some rubble and a hole.
Posted by: The Pogues at April 27, 2011 05:41 PM (xy9wk)
@215: "Seriously? Have you looked at the lyrics? It's more a "I've had my heart broken before, but I know that love is out there, I just haven't met that girl yet" kind of thing. It's more a song of optimism and that he hasn't given up on love."
Our ideal girl? She hasn't been born yet.
Posted by: Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, and Errol Flynn at April 27, 2011 05:44 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: GONZOTX at April 27, 2011 05:54 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 27, 2011 06:08 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 27, 2011 06:10 PM (mHQ7T)
Rush can take care of himself. Remember all the screaming over his 'imitation' of the Chinese Prime Minister's speech? I don't think Rush ever apologized though the entire the chattering class was after his head. I heard him make fun of the episode.
Keep the pressure on. I don't care about the grades, I want to see the various college admission records, tuition records and anything else that might show what kind of aid Obama may have received as a 'foreign student'.
Posted by: Meremortal at April 27, 2011 06:41 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2011 07:59 PM (NITzp)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2011 08:15 PM (NITzp)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2011 08:21 PM (NITzp)
Welcome to my universe.
Your agonizer, please.
Posted by: Bearded Spock at April 27, 2011 08:52 PM (W+4KQ)
Posted by: yakima o' canutt, in below the sexy shoes at April 27, 2011 09:24 PM (tdbEf)
Posted by: taba at April 27, 2011 10:42 PM (XppsK)
Sean Hannity made a good point last night while explaining why he doesn't care what Obama's grades were. It wouldn't matter if the President got all A's in college. He's still a lousy president.
Posted by: Jaynie59 at April 28, 2011 03:57 AM (/f9MS)
Further:
What and where is "Man's Country"?
What do Jeri Ryan and Obama have in common? (answer: they both f*cked Jack Ryan)
How many times did State Senator Obama vote "present" in the Illinois Senate?
What's the difference between a "professor", a "teacher", and a "lecturer" at the University of Chicago?
What language is spoken in Austria? In Afghanistan?
What is a breathalyzer used for?
Is there anything called an "inhalator"?
How many states are in the United States? How many Muslim states are there in the world?
What is a "presidential signing statement"?
Posted by: Asian Carp Tsar (now with Kung fu grip!) at April 28, 2011 05:22 AM (XyjRQ)
On what day did the Obama administration close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility?
What were the vote results in the Senate and/or Congress when Obama asked them to authorize military action in Libya?
One of Obama's campaign promises was to reduce the federal deficit. By how much has Obama reduced the federal deficit?
Posted by: Asian Carp Tsar (now with Kung fu grip!) at April 28, 2011 05:32 AM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: MinstrelBoy at April 28, 2011 07:02 AM (rwioF)
Posted by: MinstrelBoy at April 28, 2011 07:08 AM (rwioF)
Posted by: ray ban at June 02, 2011 09:39 PM (9IPsd)
Posted by: mulberry bags at June 27, 2011 08:40 PM (28It9)
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