January 04, 2011
— Ace The rules about firing an Inspector General were supposed to give him insulation from political blowback for embarrassing politicians. This is the whole point of the posting. If an IG does not have some amount of independence -- bright-line law-protected independence -- then he's just another at-will employee serving at the pleasure of his boss.
And how many at-will employees buck their bosses? Not many.
But that's what an appeals court has decided, establishing a new legal principle, There is no "I" in independent.
If you don't remember, Walpin was IG for AmeriCorps and began asking some embarrassing questions:
In June 2009, Walpin was the inspector general for the Corporation for National and Community Service, which oversees the AmeriCorps service program. He had been aggressively investigating the misuse of $800,000 in AmeriCorps grant money given to a program run by Kevin Johnson, the mayor of Sacramento, California who also happens to be a prominent Obama supporter. As a result of Walpin's investigation, Johnson was, for a while, suspended from receiving any new federal grants. Later, an acting U.S. attorney who was seeking a post in the Obama administration refused to pursue the Johnson matter. Inside the Corporation, Walpin expressed his unhappiness with that decision and his desire to continue investigating corruption in Sacramento.
So Obama fired him, in complete defiance of the law's requirements of thirty days' notice to Congress plus a good explanation for such an act. So the administration quickly backtracked, and said he wasn't fired but just on "administrative leave" for 30 days, and then, of course, after 30 days, he was officially fired.
Then the explanation they gave was that he was a doddering old man and no longer had the president's confidence.
The Court of Appeals decided, hey, close enough to the law's requirements!
The three-judge panel ruled that the White House's decision to place Walpin on administrative leave for 30 days (after telling him he was fired) did not violate the law. Further, the judges ruled that Obama's explanation that he no longer had "fullest confidence" in Walpin "satisfies the minimal statutory mandate that the president communicate to the Congress his 'reasons' for removal."It is an across-the-board defeat for Walpin. But it is also a clear danger sign for the independence of inspectors general. The court's decision effectively means that the president can remove future inspectors general immediately, without notice to Congress, simply by placing an inspector general on immediate administrative leave, following by formal firing 30 days later. Also, the president can simply tell Congress he did it because he no longer has confidence in the inspector general.
Such a scenario is not what the bipartisan group of lawmakers had in mind when they crafted the protections for inspectors general. Whether they will strengthen the law as a result of the Walpin case remains to be seen.
Thanks to rdbrewer.
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Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2011 12:16 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Luca Brasi at January 04, 2011 12:16 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 04, 2011 12:16 PM (ZtwUX)
The holidays were nice. Back to full-blown rage mode.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2011 12:19 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: maverick muse at January 04, 2011 12:20 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 04, 2011 12:21 PM (AZGON)
OT: Boehner is certainly good for some things.
Namely, being a complete smartass.
"The House is going to pass legislation to repeal that now. You're welcome".
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 04, 2011 12:21 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 04, 2011 12:22 PM (54F2e)
*sputtering, incoherent rage*
Nice to know Obama hasn't changed his commitment to the utter dismemberment of the rule of law while he was on vacation! That wouldn't be change we can believe in!
Posted by: MWR at January 04, 2011 12:22 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Gov98 at January 04, 2011 12:24 PM (+yyD7)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 04, 2011 12:25 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: joeindc44 at January 04, 2011 12:26 PM (QxSug)
Talk about a fucking stupid decision, but given cronyism and all the political bullshit, is it any real surprise? There was no way the Court was going to back Walpin, because it might infringe on POTUS' power to do whatever the fuck he wants and protect his buddies, even if it contravenes the law.
Posted by: Penfold at January 04, 2011 12:27 PM (1PeEC)
"The House is going to pass legislation to repeal that now. You're welcome".
Okay, that just helped balm my wounds a little bit. Thank you, Boehner, for proving you're not a COMPLETE wussy. You're still on probation, though, bucko.
Posted by: MWR at January 04, 2011 12:27 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: John Boehner's Only Testicle at January 04, 2011 12:27 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2011 12:28 PM (RD7QR)
Cocksuckers in the DC Circuit.
I f'ng hate this profession.
Posted by: laceyunderalls channeling AmishDude level rage at January 04, 2011 04:16 PM (pLTLS)
Honestly, I sometimes hate being right.
Sometimes.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 12:28 PM (BvBKY)
Gee, for someone who studied the law so, um, studiously, going so far as to teach the nation's ultimate law, the Constitution, Obama sure doesn't abide by it very well.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 12:29 PM (b6qrg)
Gee, for someone who studied the law so, um, studiously, going so far as to teach the nation's ultimate law, the Constitution Shariah, Obama sure doesn't abide by it very well.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 04:29 PM (b6qrg)
FIFY
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama of the Future at January 04, 2011 12:31 PM (4df7R)
You will recall that, after the false accusation of assault that led to the Tailhook scandal, the Navy was so spooked by Pat (spit) Schroeder and her buds that they graduated the first two women from F14 school with failing grades. The F14 is a two-seater, which meant the Navy took two folks who hadn't done them any harm and put them in the rear seat with pilots who were, by Navy standards, not qualified.
One blew an approach--I read the report--and got killed. Her backseater got out. The other was grounded for usafe flying.
Thing is, these women could have done perfectly good flying for the Navy in P3, or perhaps the Viking, or the COD, or any other aircraft but the high-performance fighter off a carrier.
Feminists have struck again.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at January 04, 2011 12:31 PM (yt878)
Posted by: flurmf at January 04, 2011 12:31 PM (9t1S4)
Why do we have a Constitution? This fucking guy can do whatever he wants with reckless abandon with ZERO CONSEQUENCES!!!!
Posted by: Sponge © at January 04, 2011 12:32 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 04, 2011 12:32 PM (B+qrE)
Also, in every report of a judicial decision, can we get the names of the judges involved and who appointed them?
What frosts me is this ridiculous assumption that judges are above politics and should be given a free hand.
No one else gets the assumption that their actions are not influenced by rank partisanship and ideological considerations.
Why the hell to we attribute to lawyers -- of all people -- this kind of integrity?
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 12:32 PM (BvBKY)
Posted by: Evan Thomas on his knees at January 04, 2011 12:32 PM (AZGON)
The Democrats raised a ruckus when Bush fired at will employees for refusing to investigate voter fraud - surely firing someone for investigating your flunkie is a more egregious sin?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 04, 2011 12:33 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: MWR at January 04, 2011 12:33 PM (4df7R)
What we need to do: Ignore it and go Fundraise at the W!
Posted by: Will at January 04, 2011 12:34 PM (77TeU)
Posted by: Reactionary at January 04, 2011 12:34 PM (4nbyM)
"You're gonna see what it's like to be ruled by the black man, now.
Ya' Cracka ass Cracka-
I hate every last iota of yo' ass!"
Posted by: King Samir Shabazz at January 04, 2011 12:37 PM (wRDl4)
Posted by: Gerry Rafferty at January 04, 2011 12:37 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: MWR at January 04, 2011 04:33 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: CUS at January 04, 2011 12:38 PM (wOGfT)
The city limits of Chicago now seem to extend from San Francisco to Cape Hatteras.
Posted by: George Orwell at January 04, 2011 04:21 PM (AZGON)
Very good point. The laws really do no longer have any meaning. They mean what those in power want them to mean and nothing more.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 04, 2011 12:38 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: joeindc44 at January 04, 2011 12:40 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2011 12:41 PM (HjPtV)
I, for one, would like to welcome Mr. Walpin to the wubulous world of Obama Justice.
Have you met our Attorney General?
Posted by: GM Bondholder at January 04, 2011 12:41 PM (wRDl4)
Posted by: Sponge © at January 04, 2011 12:41 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Gov98 at January 04, 2011 04:24 PM (+yyD7)
I think the courts are the appropriate remedy for damages done to Walpin. Unfortunately they appear to be unsensible. But as for dealing with the Precedent? Yeah, congress would need to take action. Of course having the court declare the Precidential action wrong would help politically.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 04, 2011 12:41 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 12:42 PM (b6qrg)
2. Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend. Four legs good, two legs better!
3. No animal shall wear clothes.
4. No animal shall sleep in a bed.
5. No animal shall drink alcohol.
6. No animal shall kill any other animal.
7. All animals are equal All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Posted by: MarkC at January 04, 2011 12:42 PM (yPPVC)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 04, 2011 12:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at January 04, 2011 12:43 PM (IoUF1)
Even worse, as they say, "There is no law for the lawless." The laws are now specifically designed to constrain only those dumb enough to follow them.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 12:43 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Chicago Jedi at January 04, 2011 12:43 PM (6ftzF)
I think a reform-minded pol ... should jump on this yesterday.
Best to take a Wide-Stance and let it jump on you, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Larry Craig at January 04, 2011 12:43 PM (wRDl4)
I am sure it will be reversed if he pursues it to the full court or to the Supremes.
This is a BS ruling, but nowadays we can expect that.
Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2011 12:45 PM (M9Ie6)
The burden of proof for lawful action MUST be on government.
Posted by: ef at January 04, 2011 12:46 PM (c7Pp2)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 12:47 PM (b6qrg)
A panel of government class hacks defends the leader of the government class.
I'm shocked!!!
Who knew the decent into aristocracy would happen so quickly?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 04, 2011 12:48 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: toby928™ at January 04, 2011 12:48 PM (S5YRY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 04:43 PM (8y9MW)
Government of the crooks, by the crooks, for the crooks.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 04, 2011 12:48 PM (7BU4a)
Posted by: George Orwell at January 04, 2011 12:50 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: spoiled moron at January 04, 2011 12:50 PM (S5YRY)
You will recall that, after the false accusation
of assault that led to the Tailhook scandal, the Navy was so spooked by
Pat (spit) Schroeder and her buds that they graduated the first two
women from F14 school with failing grades. The F14 is a two-seater,
which meant the Navy took two folks who hadn't done them any harm and
put them in the rear seat with pilots who were, by Navy standards, not
qualified.
One blew an approach--I read the report--and got killed. Her backseater got out. The other was grounded for usafe flying.
Thing is, these women could have done perfectly good flying for the Navy in P3, or perhaps the Viking, or the COD, or any other aircraft but the high-performance fighter off a carrier.
Feminists have struck again.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at January 04, 2011 04:31 PM (yt87
You are referring to Karen Hultgreen. The Navy's cowardice is worse than you described. She flamed out an engine by shadowing it's airflow with the fuselage on approach, an event of which pilots were specifically instructed to beware. To cover up the fact that it was her own incompetence, the navy conducted simulator drills with other fighter pilots in which they "switched off" the engine at the last minute upon approach. If I recall properly, out of 10 pilots, only 1 was able to recover from this.
The Navy then Hailed these results as proof that their first female fighter pilot was competent and it was just an unfortunate accident. In reality, a flame out will occur every single time you do what she did. It was a false test, and it was trumpeted false propaganda to prevent Clinton from looking like the completely ignorant asshole that he was.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 04, 2011 12:50 PM (/G5LI)
Cocksuckers in the DC Circuit.
I f'ng hate this profession.
Posted by: laceyunderalls channeling AmishDude level rage at January 04, 2011 04:16 PM (pLTLS)
Honestly, I sometimes hate being right.
Sometimes.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 04:28 PM (BvBKY)
God help me, I do so love reading AmishDude's rants about lawyers. The karmic balance is beautiful.
One the one hand you have lawyers. Smart people, with an unbelievable amount of power to influence society.
One the otherhand, you have AmishDude, the mathemetician. And mathemeticians are unbelieveably smart, with almost no power to influence society. Yet he goes on these bitter, angry incisive rants tearing down lawyers. Just mocking them as chimps and simpletons.
Poetry, I tell you.
Posted by: ed at January 04, 2011 12:51 PM (QLhy5)
Posted by: Jeff at January 04, 2011 12:51 PM (A3tpD)
The realization that obeying the law is optional is sort of ... liberating. IYKWIMAITYD.
I do, if you mean that in an "impromptu hobo hunt tonight, I'll bring the Valu-Rite" kind of way.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 12:51 PM (b6qrg)
It's a normal impeachment hearing (they actually happen sometimes, apparently). I'm pretty sure the House has to vote to impeach and then the Senate has to try the impeachment, just as if the President were on trial (though it may only be a simple majority vote to complete the impeachment, instead of the 2/3 required to impeach the President).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 12:52 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 04, 2011 12:54 PM (xQAv5)
I'm mostly with AmishDude. Any legal system which requires lawyers is, by definition, a flawed system. If laypersons can't just understand the law, the law is written badly.
Ours is a step worse than that: it's a system which requires lawyers and is written by lawyers to ensure total employment of the lawyer class.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 12:55 PM (8y9MW)
"A Republic Maam, if you can keep it"
Benjamin Franklin
The Progresives hate the idea that the rule of Law, as written, can slow down their march to power... so the rule of law (which is what defines a Republic) must go.
The Alaska Supreme Court, declared that the will of the voter (which is what defines a DEMOCRACY) over rides the rule of the written Law (which is what defines a Republic)
The Federal Court did NOT over ride them on that, even though the Consitution clearly guarentees that every State will have a REPUBLICAN form of Government.
This case just follows that meme. It over rides both the Spirit, Intent, and verbiage, of the written law... by finding a "loophole"...
Benjamin Franklin was a very wise Man...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 04, 2011 12:58 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 04:52 PM (8y9MW)
Many thanks. I wasn't fully aware that we had a mechanism for dealing with this sort of thing. It's somewhat comforting to know we do, and maddening that we don't use it more often, like in this case.
Another judge who should be impeached is Vicki Miles-LaGrange in Oklahoma. She's the one who stayed their law to prevent Sharia law from being used in court after CAIR filed a frivolous suit against it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 12:59 PM (b6qrg)
This is a BS ruling, but nowadays we can expect that.
Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2011 04:45 PM (M9Ie6)
George Will penned a column in which he cited the fact that 5 justices of the 9 voted to uphold the true meaning of the Second Amendment. He said that 4 justices were apparently unable to understand something so clearly and plainly written, and voted the opposite of what it said.
Others have pointed out (regarding prop 8 in California) that we should all just save a lot of time and ask Justice Kennedy what he thinks.
I have no confidence in the Supreme Court doing anything right because assholes keep appointing worse assholes to it every time a Democrat gets elected. Even when we get a Republican President, half the time HE appoints an asshole. (David Souter, Sandra Day O'conner, Harry Blackmun, etc.)
The problem is, the system is so clogged up with assholes, that the sheer numbers of them make it difficult to nominate a non asshole, and it's been incredibly difficult to get non assholes confirmed.
It's a fucking mess, and sometimes I think the answer advocated by Curmudgeonly and Skeptical may eventually become the only solution. (Pitchforks and torches.)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 04, 2011 01:00 PM (/G5LI)
One the one hand you have lawyers. Smart people, with an unbelievable amount of power to influence society.
OK, I have immediately pointed out an error in your statement. Remember: no math, no dissertation and no competition from international students.
Given that my parents had never gone to college, it didn't even occur to me to go to law school. Further, I would have considered myself severely intellectually deficient if I had done so. In fact, if I am not mistaken, my foot fungus can graduate from Yale, upon acceptance.
One the otherhand, you have AmishDude, the mathemetician. And mathemeticians are unbelieveably smart, with almost no power to influence society. Yet he goes on these bitter, angry incisive rants tearing down lawyers. Just mocking them as chimps and simpletons.
And? How, exactly, am I wrong?
Just because you have a the biggest hammer, doesn't mean you can build a Fabrege egg.
Posted by: AmishDude (Golden Brown Dude Slick) at January 04, 2011 01:00 PM (BvBKY)
Keep firing, assholes!
Posted by: Dark Helmet at January 04, 2011 01:01 PM (BvBKY)
Well it's been over 200 years I'm getting awful thirsty.
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at January 04, 2011 01:03 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2011 01:04 PM (0GFWk)
Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2011 01:07 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2011 01:07 PM (0GFWk)
Trump shouldn't be a serious consideration for anything. I mean he's on a reality tv show fer Chrissakes.
Oh wait....
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 04, 2011 01:08 PM (pLTLS)
So No Labels got a sucker?
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:08 PM (BvBKY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2011 01:09 PM (UOM48)
Well it's been over 200 years I'm getting awful thirsty.
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at January 04, 2011 05:03 PM (tf9Ne)
It is my firm belief that it is the people that make up OUR side of the political spectrum that actually make the nation function. If you removed every Liberal from all the jobs they perform, we wouldn't notice any REAL loss of anything important. Movies, newscasters, asshole lawyers, etc.
Remove the Conservatives and the nation would collapse instantly.
Strangely enough, the voice of those parasites is louder than the voice of we productive.
They are grasshoppers to our ants, and why we continue to put up with them I simply can't understand.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 04, 2011 01:09 PM (/G5LI)
Posted by: maverick muse at January 04, 2011 04:20 PM
Right after I investigate who didn't flush the toilets in the Committee men's room
Posted by: Darrel Issa, Investigator of Really Important Stuff at January 04, 2011 01:09 PM (vdfwz)
Posted by: joncelli at January 04, 2011 01:10 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2011 01:11 PM (7Jipo)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 04, 2011 04:54 PM (xQAv5)
Plutarchy, kleptocracy, pornocracy, idiocracy, nepotocracy, buttfuckacracy, chickenfuckacracy, oligarchy, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at January 04, 2011 01:11 PM (IoUF1)
Yes, and for my Cabinet, we will have a series of contests to decide who will stay, and who will go.
And I'll use the Ranking Senators of both parties as part of the panel of Judges, so they can't complain later about not having say in who is in the Cabinet...
And we'll televise it...
Posted by: D. Trump at January 04, 2011 01:11 PM (AdK6a)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2011 01:12 PM (0GFWk)
Posted by: Mr. Sar Kastik at January 04, 2011 01:12 PM (70v0o)
Too late...we don't need The Donald now.
Glenn "the Weeper" Beck is saying that everything is gonna be all hunky-bunky if we all follow him in his crusade and Spiritually Renew ourselves. All we gots to do is decide to be Exceptional People-types.
Oh, and probably spend all our time reading up on Benj Franklin, Geo Washington, etc. Hell, even Spooky Dude is probably trembling in his shoes at the prospect of us all scopin' out some learnin' about Button Gwinnett..
Fucks News's own Howard Beale has finally lost it completely. Next stop: straitjacket and medications. Strong medications.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 04, 2011 01:15 PM (Ulu3i)
Didn't Trump try in 2000? I remember reading an Op Ed of his back then - wasn't impressed.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 04, 2011 01:17 PM (M+8TM)
Right after I investigate who didn't flush the toilets in the Committee men's room
It was me.
I was in there so long the automatic lights went out. I was freaking out...totally spaced the flush.
...and it was meatloaf monday at the House cafeteria yesterday...So sorry.
Posted by: Steve Womack at January 04, 2011 01:17 PM (wRDl4)
Yes, and for my Cabinet, we will have a series of contests to decide who will stay, and who will go.
And I'll use the Ranking Senators of both parties as part of the panel of Judges, so they can't complain later about not having say in who is in the Cabinet...
And we'll televise it...
Posted by: D. Trump at January 04, 2011 05:11 PM (AdK6a)
That's actually not a bad idea.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2011 01:18 PM (XyUoZ)
Now the Chicago Beta-Mugabe Admenstruation is just gonna go all-in on his lawless banana republic bullshit.
He knows that if you throw 100 sticks in all directions at once the dog is just gonna sit there and say, "Fuck it."
He knows we can't chase all the sticks.
The man wipes his ass on the Constitution every day. And he's loving it like a rainbow snowcone in his face and Stalin's prick in his ass.
ugh. I never knew it could really, really go to 11 until January, 2009.
Posted by: this shit delende est at January 04, 2011 01:18 PM (L6ppJ)
Ours is a step worse than that: it's a system which requires lawyers and is written by lawyers to ensure total employment of the lawyer class.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 04:55 PM (8y9MW)
I see the legal profession as the ultimate rent-seekers, whether it be civil law or this kind of appellate litigation. In civil law, you hire a lawyer to forcibly take money from your fellow man or to prevent one from doing so (extortion and protection). In this case, you hire a lawyer to achieve a legal end that you could not achieve via the legislature.
So we've seen that we don't gain advantage by negotiating for a fair price in commerce or by persuading our fellow man in democracy. Instead we go to the courts and expect them to just rule by fiat.
Note that a vote of three judges overrides a plainly-written statute passed by a legislature of 535 whose constituency is determined by the votes of hundreds of millions of people. Moreover, this isn't an issue of an unconstitutional statute. In principle, this seems to be overriding the plain meaning of the statute because the judges find it inconvenient.
Judges are going to have to learn that it doesn't matter one whit if the law is unworkable or unfair or anything else. That's what it is and the people are wiser than the judges.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:18 PM (BvBKY)
Fucks News's own Howard Beale
Didn't his "self-help" book come out today?
In coming full circle w/his nutterbuttery I can see some Stuart Smalley kind of 'gosh darn it, people like me!' buffoonery in it.
And question -- I don't get the weepies and I'm not an alcoholic. Is this the book for me??
(Answer: NO)
Holy shit he's a total embarrassment.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 04, 2011 01:20 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: sifty this shit delende est at January 04, 2011 01:20 PM (L6ppJ)
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 04, 2011 05:15 PM (Ulu3i)
Sounds like you could use a little "spiritual renewel". Seriously.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2011 01:21 PM (XyUoZ)
Holy shit he's a total embarrassment.
Stu and the fat one were funny as hell, yesterday. They really need their own show.
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2011 01:24 PM (wRDl4)
Be nice, and I might let you live in a portion of my compound.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2011 01:24 PM (UOM48)
God damn these people. I swear, it really does seem like almost every day these scum perpetrate another outrage, that in a sane society, would simply not be allowed to stand. It would be bad enough if they simply said, as O'Brien did in 1984, "We're in it for the power, picture a boot stamping on the human face forever." But they operate with almost total impunity and the cloud cover of the MSM - and about half the people in the country buy into it. Ugh.
Thanks to the morons here who apparently find this as enraging as I do.
Posted by: RM at January 04, 2011 01:24 PM (GkYyh)
In simple terms, that's the time when the dog should bite the bejeesus out of the fuckwit throwing the sticks.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 04, 2011 01:25 PM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 05:18 PM (BvBKY)
Here's anotherl legal conundrum for ya's. How can a lawyer who's been to law school in order to learn all about the law, write a law that's unconstitutional? And further, how is he or she able to introduce a law that was written by someone who hasn't been elected to office (see the ObamaCare law, which was written by the Apollo Foundation, one of George Soros' butt-children)?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 01:26 PM (b6qrg)
I've not seen such a frenzy before. Lottery sales have been through the roof in my store, with the proverbial little old ladies buying $10 slips. It's like Tulip-Mania.
Posted by: mrp at January 04, 2011 01:28 PM (HjPtV)
I've never been an alky -- have made a few touch-and-gos on that field, but never landed, thank God -- but a friend who's in the 12-step scene tells me that publicly babbling endlessly about it, as The Weeper does is considered bad form.
Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 04, 2011 01:29 PM (Ulu3i)
With this, I respond with one of my favorite quips:
Barack Obama was a Constitutional law expert in the way that Willie Sutton was a banking regulator.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:29 PM (BvBKY)
And then we are off to a non-extradition, non-tax island somewhere warm.
Posted by: sifty this shit delende est at January 04, 2011 01:30 PM (L6ppJ)
80 I heard on another blog that Hannity just announced that Trump is gonna run for President
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 04, 2011 05:04 PM (0GFWk)
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Be still, my foolish heart.
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at January 04, 2011 01:30 PM (VPlpE)
Bush fired some DOJ attorneys who served at his pleasure and the Democraps held hearings.
Palin did NOT fire a public safety director who served at her pleasure (and who deserved to be fired), but the Democraps, RINOs, and corrupt bastards said she really did fire him and held hearings and filed ethics complaints.
The Jug-Eared Jizzmop, likely in the course of a cover-up, fires somebody who it's clearly illegal for him to fire, and the Repubs say nothing, because it would be mean-spirited, partisan, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, bigoted, nativist, ageist, warmongering, hateful, anti-dentite, and satanic to hold our highest elected official to account.
Is it any wonder everything is always such a clusterfuck of epic fail on our side?
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at January 04, 2011 01:30 PM (IoUF1)
The scrawny bastard.
Posted by: sifty this shit delende est at January 04, 2011 01:33 PM (L6ppJ)
If he were a legitimate officeholder, they could do something.
Posted by: birther, plain and simple at January 04, 2011 01:34 PM (0AkWH)
9th Circuit appeals court rules war memorial cross in San Diego public park unconstitutional - CBS http://bit.ly/fgi73a
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 04, 2011 01:34 PM (M+8TM)
Do you remember the Clinton years? Almost every conservative organization got audited. It was incredible.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:35 PM (BvBKY)
Posted by: Jimi at January 04, 2011 01:37 PM (fqxV7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2011 01:37 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: t-bird at January 04, 2011 01:37 PM (qsnxV)
Hey, remember the big controversy over Bush firing all those Justice Department attorneys even though he was perfectly within his rights to do so?
Yeah, neither do we.
Posted by: The Deciders at January 04, 2011 01:38 PM (HzhBE)
The ACLU, doing the jobs the Klan won't do.
Posted by: toby928™ at January 04, 2011 01:39 PM (S5YRY)
Doesn't the existence of the 9th violate the "more perfect union" clause?
I hereby say that that cross does not symbolize anything, rather, it is a lower-case t.
Voila.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:39 PM (BvBKY)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 04, 2011 01:39 PM (swuwV)
@127
Didn't Clinton fire every Federal Judge, and replace them all with "His Choices?" Then when Bush came in......he didn't fire anybody until late in his second term, and he only fired a handful...The Left thru a Hissy Fit!
Hypocrits!
Posted by: Jimi at January 04, 2011 01:40 PM (fqxV7)
Posted by: Preznit Betabama at January 04, 2011 01:41 PM (L6ppJ)
Posted by: person who didn't read thread at January 04, 2011 01:41 PM (dkExz)
Somehow, someway, we absolutely have to stop electing brain-dead idiots into office.
I still think a political draft is in order. Shit, we couldn't possibly do any worse than Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Waxman, Boxer, Weiner...
*takes in big breath*
Frank, Wasserman-Shultz, Nelson, Ellison, Schumer, Durban...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 01:41 PM (b6qrg)
"...a little blow, when you could afford it" --Barack Obama, Dreams from My Father
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:41 PM (BvBKY)
I saw an article on Ricochet about this very thing. It was about Brazil and the great gulf between rich and poor. Basically, there is no middle class because you couldn't afford to protect yourself. So the rich live in places with great security so much so that when they move to the US, they think they have to live in places like Trump Tower. They think they can't simply have a house in the suburbs.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:44 PM (BvBKY)
@138
Don't worry we still have a long way to fall. Alot can happend before those days come......good and bad!
The problem is "the bigger they are the harder they fall"
How Big are We?
Posted by: Jimi at January 04, 2011 01:44 PM (fqxV7)
You're thinking of US Attorneys. I think he kept on Mary Jo White. The scandal was that it was believed that this was an attempt to ensure that a US Attorney investigating Whitewater would be shut down.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:46 PM (BvBKY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 04, 2011 05:37 PM (UOM4
I think it started earlier than that. I'd bet a million bucks that Frank Marshall Davis and Grampa Stan molested the living shit out of him. That's why he's so fucked up in the head.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at January 04, 2011 01:46 PM (IoUF1)
I hear Belize is freer than America now. Any first hand knowledge?
Posted by: sifty this shit delende est at January 04, 2011 01:46 PM (L6ppJ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 01:47 PM (b6qrg)
Posted by: Boehner's Shriveled Testicle at January 04, 2011 01:51 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: sifty this shit delende est at January 04, 2011 01:52 PM (L6ppJ)
I think it was Woodsy Owl.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 01:53 PM (BvBKY)
It was a comment I made earlier in the thread.
Another way to say the same thing: Fait Acompli (if my Latin spelling is correct): "I can because I have."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 01:56 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 04, 2011 05:56 PM (8y9MW)
Oops. I musta missed that. Anyway, you're quite right.
"And here's our first round pick out of Florida's 118th Congressional, a six-foot-two inch rookie..."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2011 01:59 PM (b6qrg)
You're thinking of US Attorneys. I think he kept on Mary Jo White. The scandal was that it was believed that this was an attempt to ensure that a US Attorney investigating Whitewater would be shut down.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2011 05:46 PM (BvBKY)
And Michael Chertoff, too.America is fucked with the barbed cock of Satan.
Posted by: Ed Anger at January 04, 2011 02:08 PM (7+pP9)
It's lucky Sasha and Malia are girls, IYKWIM.
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Posted by: mijian65 at January 04, 2011 04:09 PM (UzYYK)
Uh, so no one should be able to sue the President, even if the President does something he has absolutely no authority to do? Impeachment is not going to make the plaintiff whole here, you know: Walpin would stay fired under President Biden.
"...just as if the President were on trial (though it may only be a simple majority vote to complete the impeachment, instead of the 2/3 required to impeach the President)."
Impeaching a judge is exactly the same process as impeaching the President. Both only require a majority vote in the House, but then a 2/3 vote of the Senate to convict. Judge Porteous in New Orleans was recently removed by fairly overwhelmingly margins in both chambers.
Posted by: Dave J. at January 04, 2011 04:33 PM (DCQ0q)
What's Obama going to do, cry?
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