1 Martin Luther King Jr:  Republican.

2 Absorutely.

3 If only others had accepted his ideas, and not just made him a mascot. 

This world might be a much, much better place.

Thank you, Dr. King.  I hope I get to shake your hand in the next Life.

4 Today, we're all african-american?

5 It's amazing what grammar can do.

6 Snap, shizzle manizzle.

7 “If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

8
Outstanding post, David.

9 The facts have determined that injustices exist, but I an not interested in negotiating with the blood libel media.

10 Only we are entitled to grievences.

11 The civil rights movement was always at its best when it was reminding America of her own promise and principles. It lost its way when it started insulting her and demanding things.

12 By the time 1968 had rolled around the civil rights movement in the United States was over. MLK had abandoned all pretense at advancing equal "rights" for blacks and was now advancing the people who had long funded his efforts, the Communists.

He had established the "economic justice and housing for the poor" organization. Does that sound familiar?  He was no longer marching in "civil rights" parades and protests. In fact, when he was assassinated he was in Memphis to support a local public workers union.

He divided his time in the last two years of his life supporting communist causes in both labor and in anti-war efforts.

So why does he get a holiday and even George Washington doesn't?

13 Dave, you were born in 1959? Why they hell is everyone calling you old. I was expecting you were born in the 1930s or 1940s

14 No, but you can accept blowjobs without reciprocating.

15

Imagine a White minority marching for rights with a Black majority wielding the batons.  Do Blacks join them in their march?  Do the Whites get their rights?

Think Zimbabwe or South Africa today.

16 here, here!

17 I don't think I could NOT retaliate (yes, the context and intent is clear) so call me unable to rise to that level. It is inconceivable to me that any person could could justify buying and selling another human. Obviously it WAS done, but still.... Thought my dad got it pretty good, when he told me that people are either people or assholes, how they get there is up to them. Race, creed and the rest are irrelevant. Took a while but I finally caught on.

  So Happy MLK Day.

18 15

Imagine a White minority marching for rights with a Black majority wielding the batons machetes.  Do Blacks join them in their march?  Do the Whites get their rights?

Think Zimbabwe or South Africa today.

Posted by: Speller at January 17, 2011 11:51 AM (J74Py)

FTFY

19

>> Dave, you were born in 1959?

September 2.

It should be a national holiday.

20 "In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty."

If only the left, who so often invoke his name, could understand and accept these precepts.

21 Whatever MLK's later political leanings were, the fact remains that he was instrumental in ending segregation, which treated American blacks as less than second class citizen. As a Nigerian, despite the disgusting corruption in my country, I grew up free, and I can't imagine what it must have been to have been black in the south at that time. If I were born earlier and my ancestors had been stolen and brought to this country, I could have experienced the same thing. So forgive me if I think it appropriate to honor MLK. Regardless of his flaws (big and small), he played a very important role in enabling freedom to thrive (not in an Obama sense) for people of all colors. MLK believed in the founding principles and the greatness of America, so that only a few decades since segregation ended, blacks in America can be successful in all avenues of life, like many have. The facts that race hustlers have bastardized this heritage and so many black Americans still view themselves as victims is a discussion for another day.

22 I want my own holiday back!

23 He divided his time in the last two years of his life supporting communist causes in both labor and in anti-war efforts.

Two thoughts on that.

First, is the frequent observation that those that have succeeded in amassing political power in the course of achieving a goal very rarely disband those organizations when the desired outcome (or some measure of it) is reached.

The turn towards labor and the poor is not a feature unique to King.  Many church/religious organizations took similar turns at the time. Communists (marxist, etc.) succeeded in convincing a good portion of the religious community that forced redistribution was exactly the sort of thing Jesus had in mind when he taught us to care for our neighbors.  The Catholic Church that I attended as a kid now hosts "worker's dignity" seminars, for example.

24 Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 11:58 AM

^^This^^

25 So why does he get a holiday and even George Washington doesn't?
Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 11:48 AM (M9Ie6)

1) Because of what he did with the years before that.
2) Because George Washington gets one (albeit rolled in with Lincoln) in February.

26 22 I want my own holiday back!

Posted by: George Washington at January 17, 2011 11:58 AM (EL+OC)

And you are... who, again?

27 Posted by: chique d'afrique

Well said!

28 24 Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 11:58 AM

^^This^^

Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 17, 2011 11:59 AM (Ulu3i)

Ditto

29 Put another way, King's feet were clay.  And so are mine.

30 Yes, but did King win a Nobel like I did?

What? Damn!

31 On a serious note.  And even avowed racist, Chris Rock agrees: the place you don't want to be in any city is MLK street.  That fact is telling and sad.

32

Dr. Martin Luther King was a Communist, plain and simple.

He was likely a nice man, but he was a Communist just the same.

33 You nailed it.  King, imperfect prophet that he was (like all prophets) helped deliver this nation from its 200 years of wandering in the wilderness of injustice and to an affirmation of its first principles: that all are created equal and endowed by their Creator with the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 

34 You must demonstrate... um... some stuff. And we'll evaluate that stuff based on some stuff.  Some critera:
1) do nothing
2) be a socialist
3) try harder at doing nothing
4) NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!

35 So why does he get a holiday and even George Washington doesn't?


Recent history always seems like more important history perhaps?  Or exclusiveness in a (arbitrary) category.  A time may come when this holiday is merged with another an renamed as happened with Wasington - Lincoln - President's Day.

Redefining things slightly, It could be reasonable to merge Lincoln and MLK together under Equality Day or something and let Washington have his own holiday.  I doubt any of them are likely to form a direct opinion of their own though.

36 Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 12:03 PM (x3YFz) I wonder if anyone heard the Rush show where Steyn interviewed Dr. Walter Williams? He grew up in the Philly projects, but back then, they were so safe that kids could sleep in the hallways/balconies outside the apartments. His dad abandoned the family when he was a kid, but he was one of the very few kids not in a married two-parent home. So what the hell happened since then? (Liberal policies, I'm looking at you.)

37 As long as we don't have to celebrate Barack Hussein Obama Day.

38 Hitler Finds Out GOP Has Taken the House

39 36 Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 12:03 PM (x3YFz)

I wonder if anyone heard the Rush show where Steyn interviewed Dr. Walter Williams? He grew up in the Philly projects, but back then, they were so safe that kids could sleep in the hallways/balconies outside the apartments. His dad abandoned the family when he was a kid, but he was one of the very few kids not in a married two-parent home.

So what the hell happened since then?

(Liberal policies, I'm looking at you.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 12:07 PM (2nGKd)

But yet, the black community, by a 95% margin, continues to vote themselves into never-ending poverty and destruction.  The wife and I discuss this often, and have no answers.

40 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Helped ‘Plant the Seeds’ for ‘Environmental Justice Movement,’ Says Attorney General Holder

41 37 As long as we don't have to celebrate Barack Hussein Obama Day.

Posted by: Speller at January 17, 2011 12:08 PM (J74Py)

We're on it!

42 Rep. Heath Shuler: 'It Would Be Immoral' to Repeal Parts of Obamacare That Deal With Children

43 @40 The people in this administration have absolutely no shame.

44 From MM-

After exhorting the nation to steer away from discourse that “has become so sharply polarized,” President Obama and his administration will mark Martin Luther King Day by framing Obamacare as a “civil rights victory” (which means if you oppose it, youÂ’re akin to slavery proponents.

Ef you Barry.

45 By the time 1968 had rolled around the civil rights movement in the United States was over.

Posted by: Vic
------------

You can't really believe that.  Are you really that out of touch?  Were you so busy with life in 1968 you could not see what was going on around you?  From the view here in CHicago in 1968, it sure didn't look over to me!

46

“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” - Martin Luther King, Jr.

Today is a day to reflect on the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Dr. King dedicated himself to justice and the struggles of an imperfect world. In the face of fierce opposition, he stood up for the oppressed, and he ultimately sacrificed all for equality and freedom. His was a remarkable life of love and service for all mankind. His work must continue.

With Dr. KingÂ’s faith in God and his unwavering hope in a brighter, stronger future, let us recommit today to continuing his work for a more peaceful and just nation. 

- Sarah Palin

MSM:  Sarah Palin is inserting herself into MLK day in 3...2...1

47 @44 Let me modify slightly what I wrote in #43. The leader of this administration has no shame. Way to cheapen MLK's legacy, Holder and Obama! And you are supposed to be black. One would have thought you would take it more seriously. *Spit*

48 By the time 1968 had rolled around the civil rights movement in the United States was over.

My HS didn't integrate until 1972.

49 By the time 1968 had rolled around the civil rights movement in the United States was over.

WRONG!  If the civil rights movement was ovah we'd be out of a job, wouldn't we?

50

Good post Dave.  It rises above.

Even though everyone tries to reduce MLK to the social, political, and psychological,  he was and is a moral giant.  

Also a man, imperfect. 

If only we could stop being so thoroughly hygienic, we could honor both with respect.

51

I was in Montgomery, Al in the spring and early summer of 1961 attending school at Gunter AFB.  I was from the North, and the drive from Texas to Alabama on a bus was revealing.  I was told to move from the back of the bus to the front when we entered Mississippi.  This was in the dead of night and I had been sleeping.  I objected but finally went.  It was my first experience with "Colored" and "White" drinking fountains.  In Alabama, several of us met a black guy who attended basic training with us.  We entered a drug store for a soda and he was told he could not go in.  So, none of us went in.  During the time I was there, a Freedom Rider bus was burned and we saw the smoke from a distance - we were not aware of what was happening at the time.  We were restricted to base, and a few older Marines attending schools had stones and rocks thrown at them because they had out of state license plates.  I saw how dejected and different the blacks behavior was here.  When they walked they always had their heads down.  What MLK did was good.  What some other blacks have done since then is not so good.  I have never thought he was Republican.  He supported Johnson for re-election.  At any rate, these are my thoughts from that era.   

52 A friend of mine was "integrated" by court order  in high school in Southern California in 1974. Think about that. 19 fucking 74.

53 Martin Luther King would have wanted Americans to pass cap and trade legislation as a tribute to the dead and wounded of Tucson.

54 45 By the time 1968 had rolled around the civil rights movement in the United States was over.

Posted by: Vic
------------

You can't really believe that.  Are you really that out of touch?  Were you so busy with life in 1968 you could not see what was going on around you?  From the view here in CHicago in 1968, it sure didn't look over to me!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 17, 2011 12:13 PM (f9c2L)

I was born in 1968.  By the time I graduated high school and joined the military, I was convinced that race was a non-issue in our country, and I grew up in Montana.

I served, color blind, with americans.  I didn't discover that racism still existed until I heard people like Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Chris Rock and Barak Obama speak... then I realized who the true racists are in this nation.  Race brokers like those four, and many more.  La Raza "The Race?" Really?  Black Panther Party? Really? How the fuck are these organizations even remotely socially acceptable? 

But the left hoists them up as heros.  Fucking commies.

55 A fitting post for the day, Dave.  Thanks.

56

MLK believed in the founding principles and the greatness of America, so that only a few decades since segregation ended, blacks in America can be successful in all avenues of life, like many have.

 

What is disturbing to me is that blacks and others, including whites couldn't recognize freedom now even if it were giving them a lap dance.  And what is more disturbing is that most younger people living in America now have never really experienced what freedom really is.  The left has already taken us down the road to serfdom to a point that freedom now is only a relative term.  That's why the left is so batshit crazy right now because they are sooooo close to the complete takeover of our lives, they'll do most anything right now, including violence, consumate that power.

57

And I don't think some people  understand the meaning of the word 'integrated'.

As of only a few years back, there are schools in the South that have their students fighting to integrate their Proms.

Good grief.

 

58 My HS didn't integrate until 1972.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 17, 2011 12:17 PM (S5YRY)

I don't know what HS you went to but the ones in GA ended government sanctioned segregation in 1965. At that time it was school by choice. When that did not achieve the desired outcome for the DOJ forced busing was used in 1968. I say GA but that is based on my own county.

By 1972 my county has eliminated all the High Schools but one huge den of mediocrity that everyone went to. In short, everybody lost.

And all of you people who the "offense" at my statement that the equal rights movement was over in 1968 are missing the point.

MLK and the other "civil rights" leaders were no longer about equal rights. They were no longer about little black children and little white children sitting down together. They had morphed into what we have now.

59 I grew up in a VERY racist Italian family.  My grandfather was a corrupt judge, bought by the mafia.  My dad and brothers hated everyone not Italian.  Jewish, Asian, Black, Irish... they hated everyone.

At the end of the day I always knew better and I evaluate everyone I meet on their individual merits, none of which are race-based.

Maybe I was adopted.?

60

MLK and the other "civil rights" leaders were no longer about equal rights. They were no longer about little black children and little white children sitting down together. They had morphed into what we have now.

 

I'm not that familier with the last bit of MLK's life, but what I do know is that the "movement" morphed into what we have today.  A system of "protected classes", whether by race, religion, or political affiliation.  It has become a nation where some people are more equal than others. 

61  When they walked they always had their heads down.  What MLK did was good.  What some other blacks have done since then is not so good.  I have never thought he was Republican.  He supported Johnson for re-election.  At any rate, these are my thoughts from that era.   

Posted by: Ken James

And it was worse in WWII.  My Dad grew up on the poh side o' town in the North (Ohio), and had black kids as playmates as a kid.  He was not un-prejudiced  (typical white man!) , but he was pretty shocked when he was based in Louisiana taking training in WWII.

It was more visible in the South than in the North, but there was plenty of segregation and race hate up North.  The Black Americans that went North over the last 150 years just had more motiviation than those that stayed behind in the South.

Dr. King was a pretty flawed man in some ways, and was unduly influenced by Marxist thinking on value and work issues.  He mistakenly saw a tool for "social justice" in Marxism.  He was, however, a brave man who daily and weekly, for years, faced death threats. 

Yet he continued. 

 He was probably one of the few people in America that had extensive files on him in both the FBI and the KGB.  The KGB wanted to use him for their purposes, which were no good.

62 (Liberal policies, I'm looking at you.) Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 12:07 PM (2nGKd) But yet, the black community, by a 95% margin, continues to vote themselves into never-ending poverty and destruction. The wife and I discuss this often, and have no answers. Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 12:09 PM (x3YFz) Liberal indoctrination (via public education and paid-off pastors) and policies. The idea that the party which gives you free stuff has been long ingrained into black communities by Leftists mouthpieces disguised as black leaders. Hey, african chick!

63 plz keep it away. good luck.

64

MLK and the other "civil rights" leaders were no longer about equal rights. They were no longer about little black children and little white children sitting down together. They had morphed into what we have now.

Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 12:28 PM

So far as I know, Dr King had nothing to do with the growth of the current system of race-based preferences and giveaways pushed by race-baiters like Jackson, Sharpton, the NAACP and Osama Obama. Seems to me "affirmative action" and other inequalities didn't really gain momentum until after his assassination.

If we take him at his word -- which is all that can be done at this point -- he would have opposed the creation of protected classes.

What I got from him was the belief in de jure equality: everyone has the same opportunities, the same chances to succeed.

65 I don't know what HS you went to

It was in North Alabama, where today is King Lee Day.

66 Hi baldilocks!

67 dammit

68 67 dammit

Posted by: toby928™ at January 17, 2011 12:52 PM (S5YRY)

I agree.

69 I correct myself, the HS integration was in the 71-72 school year.

70 And I don't think some people understand the meaning of the word 'integrated'. As of only a few years back, there are schools in the South that have their students fighting to integrate their Proms. Good grief. Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 17, 2011 12:26 PM The Spring before I was to begin HS, the story heading the news was about my future HS (Brother Rice in IL). The students could not agree on music for the Prom, so they wanted to have separate Proms, one for the Black students and one for the White students. This was in 1990. This was also a private Irish Catholic HS.

71 Ask my wife. I would never retaliate after accepting being blown. Reciprocate, perhaps, but never retaliate.

72

September 2.

a former virgo-  Feel good not to be a 'Virgin' anymore?

Same (1st) here. 

Not of 59, though.

 

73 1959 was a Year of the Pig.

74 As of only a few years back, there are schools in the South that have their students fighting to integrate their Proms.

Then the kids who go on to kollij can choose to live in segregated dorms and join segregated social groups...because whether or not segregation is good depends on who is shunning who.

(Whom? I never learned.)

75 "... made up of people who have lost faith in America, who have absolutely repudiated Christianity, and who have concluded that the white man is an incorrigible "devil."

You can be certain that this passage never gets read in a public school, most especially in an inner city school.

76

chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 12:16 PM

They dishonor MLK, They are not as MLK, nor Sowells, Blackwell, but jesse jackson, It's a damn shame They represent the hell that keeps  all peoples weak. and the Top echelon strong..

77 It all depends. Did you blow me first?

78 As of only a few years back, there are schools in the South that have their students fighting to integrate their Proms. That's Bullshit. They wanted to segregate their proms because of the music. Within American cultures there are several sub-cultures. We can choose to accept that fact by allowing students to finance and hold two proms or we can force black kids to line dance to Trace Adkins. That statement is Bullshit too. In the end cooler heads prevailed and students got together and mixed music from all genres that everyone enjoyed.

79 As of only a few years back, there are schools in the South that have their students fighting to integrate their Proms.

Do not mistake what I said about elimination of government sanctioned segregation for what is going on today. I said that they had eliminated government forced segregation in 1965 and that is true. It is also true that they had forced busing in 1968 to achieve "balance".

My old HS no longer exists. As I said a huge central city HS was built in the early 70s. Now that HS is more segregated than the one in 1965 under "freedom of choice".

The first riot that occurred at the "big" HS occurred because a white girl was elected homecoming queen. After that they elected two homecoming queens, one black and one white.

I don't know what they do now. I don't think there are enough white people in the HS to elect anyone anymore. The school is defacto segregated but it meets the requirements of DOJ because it reflects the now percentage of racial makeup of the city. All the white people have moved out of the city. What was once the second ranking HS in the State, and one of the best in the country became an absolute POS. Nobody who has a choice will send their kids to that school whether they are black or white.

As for the civil rights movement advancing the "economic cause" of blacks I would recommend reading some Thomas Sowell. He has long written that all the major economic gains made by the black community occurred before the civil rights movement.

In fact, he maintains that the outcome of that movement which resulted in LBJ's "war on poverty" has actually done more harm to the black community than decades of racial discrimination. It has destroyed the black family structure which has in turn doomed the majority of the black population in the U.S. to perpetual poverty.

80

September 2.

a former virgo-  Feel good not to be a 'Virgin' anymore?

Same (1st) here. 

Not of 59, though.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2011 01:06 PM (6D7Az)

 

My zodiac brothers!  (August 31 '59)

81 If he wrote that stuff, I'm willing to combine his birthday back with Lincoln's birthday and call it "Republican Day". Washington still deserves his own. Jesse Jackson can bite me.

82 @chique d'afrique Well said.

83

My original post having been kicked, i shall try again:

We moved out of Cicero in 1968. I guess mom and dad figured raising kids around burning cars was not healthy. Methinks 1976 mark sthe date racism ended in the US (against blacks, anyway) with Richard Pryor's Bicentennial Neeegro marking the moment.

84 Aside from the fact he had voted Republican, MLK's background and politics included aspects that weren't just leftist, but radical leftist.  That doesn't change the fact he did things that needed to be done and is a great man for it.

If you want to indict him for what he did besides civil rights work, I'd bring up the fact that (for all the times people reference George Orwell on our side) he was more radical in leftist politics than MLK.  George Orwell was a socialist.  That's not an exaggeration--he openly stated it.  He was a socialist.  Period.  Full Stop.  We consider him a great man for what he did vis-a-vis tyranny and communism besides the "being a socialist" part.

For that matter, we can start talking about Thomas Paine and what else he advocated besides the American Revolution.

85 I grew up in a VERY racist Italian family.  My grandfather was a corrupt judge, bought by the mafia.  My dad and brothers hated everyone not Italian.  Jewish, Asian, Black, Irish... they hated everyone.

At the end of the day I always knew better and I evaluate everyone I meet on their individual merits, none of which are race-based.

Maybe I was adopted.?

Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2011 12:35 PM (x3YFz)

Ditto on everything except the Italian and judge part.  My parents were about as racist as anyone I've ever met.  We lived in upstate NY and my mother raved on and on about the Joooos; when we lived in Indiana, my dad pulled up stakes and moved us 100 miles away rather than have me bussed to an inner-city Ft. Wayne elementary school.

I remember when we heard that MLK had been assassinated - I was stunned, and a little bit afraid.  (I was 7 years old.)  My dad was just pissed that "The FBI" had been pre-empted.

I went out of my way to be the polar opposite of my parents in that respect.  Not always successfully, but most of the time.  I think, anyway.

86 There is a lot to discuss, but my problem with this day is that it tends to focus on MLK instead of (not in addition to) the Civil Rights Movement. So people argue about whether he was liberal or not, his "foibles" or crimes, who gets to "claim" him, and so on, instead of the many people who fought to get rid of actual racial discrimination that actually existed in law.

There are many other people who did, and yet we focus most of our attention on the guy who got murdered. I guess we do that, but not putting all our attention on him would cut back some of the irritation about the day. And also remind us that this was a general movement, not just one guy, and help us focus on what it was about, not *who* it was about.

So that's my thing. Imma let you finish now. Also, the "race pimps" of today are just scammers leeching off the legacy of the real deal.

87 MLK was HATED by CONSERVATIVES of both parties.

Yes, that's my contribution. You're seeing the pinnacle of my capablity.

88 Way to cheapen MLK's legacy, Holder and Obama! And you are supposed to be black. One would have thought you would take it more seriously.

*Spit*

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 17, 2011 12:16 PM (2nGKd)

I am struck, for a second year, at how this day makes Obama look so small.

89 Well, one thing we can always guarantee about any serious thread. ERG will come in and shit all over it.

90

MLK was HATED by CONSERVATIVES of both parties.

I'm not really sure it's accurate to describe the Black Panthers, Nation of Islam, and the SLA as conservative.

91 87 MLK was HATED by CONSERVATIVES of both parties.

Posted by: archie bunker at January 17, 2011 01:46 PM (0YS61)

It's like the anti-Spurwing Plover.

92

Thomas Sowell column from 2006 supporting what I said

93 87 MLK was HATED by CONSERVATIVES of both parties.

Posted by: archie bunker at January 17, 2011 01:46 PM (0YS61)

Oh look, the village idiot just got off his mom's couch.

94
Dave, thank you for a fine posting. Dr King was by no means a perfect man, far from it; but he great good in his lifetime, and our nation is much better for him.

The thing that amazes most about him, though, was that he was only 39 years old when he was murdered. To have done so much in such a short lifetime ... the older I get, the more it astonishes me.

As for that comment that conservatives of both wings hating Dr King, it's important to remember that conservatism has changed enormously in the years since 1968. If a "conservative" is one who wishes to conserve something, then the question is, what are we trying to conserve? In 1968, some die-hards were trying to conserve segregation, racial separation, white supremacy; and those people hated Dr King, of course. Nowadays, though, we are trying to conserve freedom of speech, equality before the law, the limited government defined by our Constitution, freedom in the marketplace - in other words, the pillars of the Open Society. Those of us who are old enough to have been liberals in the 1960s, and who have stuck by our principles, now find ourselves being conservatives: not because we abandoned the principles of liberalism, but because the once-liberals-now-progressives did. As Ronald Reagan once said, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party: the Democratic Party left me."

95 77 It all depends. Did you blow me first?

Posted by: km at January 17, 2011 01:23 PM (ehqqs)

That line is epic.  Disregarding the context in which it was originally delivered, it needs way more play than it gets.

96

I did the civil rights thing in MS in 67 and 68.  I had planned/hoped to be able to take a blow without returning one--if the networks were there. If a couple of peckerwoods thought they could take me in an alley someplace....

 

97 Thanks to the US Air Force and its need to send my Dad to the Air Command & Staff College at Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, AL, I got to spend the '71-'72 school year at Prattville Primary School in the Montgomery suburb of Prattville.

Dr. King's teachings had yet to reach Prattville.  My school was "integrated" on paper, but remained fiercely segregated in fact.  The school's parking lot was filled with tiny travel trailers (the old "canned ham" shaped ones); these were the classrooms for the black kids, even in Alabama's 95&95 (temp & humidity) climate.  Each classroom in the building had but one token black kid.

Coming into this environment from Vermont, and from a church that had several black families as members and friends, what I saw shocked me even as a 7YO.  Recesses were segregated between building kids and trailer kids.  Bus lines were segregated in the same fashion.  Any attempt to talk to any of the trailer kids invariably brought trouble from the roving bands of 8YO budding Klan members.  One of my fondest memories of that 3rd grade year was the 1972 Orange Bowl, where the #2 Crimson Tide were humiliated by the #1 Cornhuskers.

When Dad's tour was over and we headed back North I was profoundly relieved to be returning to a world where, at least in the circles I traveled in as a small-town Vermont kid all of 8YO, the world was a bit more inclusive and you didn't get the snot pounded out of you for the thoughtcrime of talking to black kids.

98 On the Thomas Paine issue, yes, in his later years he became a flaming socialist. He paid for it as well. He is remembered in the U.S. for his work during the revolution in writing the pamphlet "Common Sense".

Almost no one remembers his socialist work even though the liberals credit him with the first idea of Social Security. He was vilified for his religious beliefs (or lack of them). In fact, when he died only 6 people attended his funeral. For one who is credited by a lot of people as being one of the founding fathers that is unheard of.

99 Posted by: Vic at January 17, 2011 02:25 PM (M9Ie6)

I will add to that the guy could be an a**hole.  Politics aside, he wasn't an easy person to get along with--essentially Bill Maher, but without the money...or the TV show...or any other reason to get chicks to like you...or most other people for that matter.  That's not to say he lacked all good qualities (obviously rhetoric) and he came to our aid when we needed it most, but if he was just a little less of a dick he  could have avoided that.

100 Posted by: Dave in Texas at January 17, 2011 11:55 AM (Wh0W+)

And every seven years it is!

101 I will add to that the guy could be an a**hole.

Yeah, I would imagine so with only 6 people attending his funeral.

102 I knew this site would be a laugh riot on MLK day. Anyone calling themselves Conservative should be appalled at the absolute destruction of free association that the King era ushered it but not here at Neocon Central.

103 Piss off, fat ass.

104

@Dave

Excellent post. I live in the Dallas 'burbs and suspect we don't live too far apart.

105

Hi White RB!  It's awesome to have a true conservative as yourself come by and teach us our manners. 

And by teach us our manners I mean "suck my left nut".

 

Be gentle.  I like that nut.

106 Thanks for posting that, Dave in Texas!

Christianity is tough, narrow walk. Many can't hack it. Most even.
MLK, he talked the talk, but more importantly, he walked the walk.

107
How long will stupid white dupes bow at the altar of the fraud- Martin L King.

He was a plagarist, a commie sex pervert and he was no more a Reverend than either Notso Sharpton or Jessie Hijackson.

And the "Civil Rights Movement" was not about empowering blacks or other minorities- any more than the Feminist movement is about empowering women or the Gay Movement is about empowering "gays".

The Civil Rights movement was chiefly about attaking and weakening this country by shaming and demoralizing whites, and forbidding them from their own right to self-identify and have pride in who they are like every other racial or ethnic group is allowed and even encouraged to do. It's about attacking the very legitimacy of this country and making us grovel and apologize for ourselves.

The two worst fucking days of the year- fucking MLK Day and fucking Super Bowl Sunday. At least their in the same  lame-ass month. But then they're followed by the fucking Black History Month. I wanna puke. Yeah I'm in a bad mood so fuck off.

108
I've been wanting to say this for a while, so I might as well say it here-

"Teabagger" is the new "Ni$$er".

Whenever you hear the word "teabagger" used by someone of the Left, just imagine they're using the word "ni$$er". The Left uses this word to denigrate Conservatives as knuckle-dragging retards genetically unfit for progress and evolution- morally wicked subhumans who need to be wiped out. Much as the Nazis saw Jews and the Bolsheviks saw the Kulaks. After the events of the last couple of weeks, it should be clear that they intend the same for us.

Actually, "teabagger" is worse than "ni$$er", as ni$$er is just a corruption, or anglifying, of the Spanish word "negro", which is how Mexicans still refer to blacks- negrito. Apart from the intentions of the person using it, there is nothing inherently derogatory or offensive about the word ni$$er. At worst, it's equivalent to "blackie". Which is not nice and I don't speak to or refer to someone that way- to their face or behind their back.

"Teabagger" is much worse than ni$$er because you're calling someone a ballsucker. The word is not neutral and there is no question of intent of the person using it- the word is inherently derogatory and meant as a provocation. 

The next time someone uses the word teabagger, I'm going to call them a ni$$er and see how they like it. Maybe then we will engage in a spirited round of fisticuffs, and hopefully I will kick their ass. And I'm not a Marcus of Queensryche type of guy.

109
Fucking brilliant. It seems there's some type of filter that prevents me from posting the word "ni$$er" correctly, so that I have to use these fucking dollar signs. I'm thinking we have Kilgore Trout to thank for this rather than any PC cowardice on the part of Ace, but  I think it's just fucking brilliant that I can post the word "teabagger" a thousand times fast, but just one "ni$$er" and you're blocked. Must not incure the wrath of our Black Overlords.

110 When someone calls me a teabagger, I tell them that I'd rather be the teabagger than the teabagee.

111 King was a perverted, philandering, plagiarizing socialist who no more deserves lionizing than Charlie Rangel or Cold Cash Jefferson. He's just another example of a leftist lie being told long enough to be considered truth.

112
Teabagger/Teabaggee?

I think there's some type of Ying/Yang dynamic going on there- I'm getting some very crude but interesting visuals from this.

And then there's Teebaggen. Which is a place in Jersey.

113

sartana, I'm sorry you're in a bad mood.  Please feel free to take it somewhere else.

Also die in a fire.

 

Thanks!

114  
Die in a fire? You put up a post that's a meditation on non-violence, in memeory of the King of All Non-Violence and then close out the comments thread wishing a violent death of one of your commenters. That's fucking genius. Maybe if I'm lucky, I'll burn to death in a black church that's been set on fire by oppressive white teabaggers.

Dave, kindly remove any reference to Texas from your screentag. In American tradition, Texas is where free men died fighting to uphold an ideal.

You are a trained dog.