1 Books are racist

2

Identity is funny being yourself is funny as you are never yourself to yourself except as you remember yourself and then of course you do not believe yourself you do not really believe yourself why should you, you know so well so very well that it is not yourself.

The fuck?

3 B...b...but, they barely knew each other! There's no connection! THERE'S NO CONNECTION!

BOW BEFORE YOUR GOD!

4 Cashill convinced me of his authenticity years ago when he broke the story on Milli Vanilli.

5 Did Ayers write Obama's book?

Ayers says he did....that's good enough for me.

6 Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

Come on, man. That's some good shit right there.

7 Yeah, somebody who writes like that should be President.

(violent headdesk)

8

"Or, maybe like a tidal river in New York, the writing just flowed, upstream and then downstream, from one to the other, with authorship murky and tangled like so much jib-line on a dock..."

It was a tidal river of turds that delivered us Teh zerO.

9
On one occasion when Ayers was confronted by a new crew in the street in front of his home, he feared for his life and called the police.  This response from a prick who despises the system.  Ayers is the consummate squeakhole wuss. 

10 Come on, man. That's some good shit right there.

Posted by: Barack at May 12, 2011 04:32 PM (5Rurq)

Racist!

11 what difference does it make?

12 I was going to rewrite it for him, until I found out he was half cracka!

13 "I know this, because while on Law Review,"

You're a Lawyer?

Specializing in what?  Hobo-law?

So, how's that working out for you.

14 Shouldn't someone be able to tell us for sure?  I remember visiting the exhibit on the Unabomber at the Newseum, and one of the ways the FBI figured out who the Unabomber was was by looking at known writings of Ted Kaczynski (once he was a suspect) and comparing them to the anonymous writings of the Unabomber, looking for unique turns of phrase and the like.  Seems like a similar analysis could be carried out.

15 If that lil' cumdumpster piglet Snookie can "write" a book, than so can B+.

That said, Ayers has his little bombmaking terrorists hands all over this one.

16

Or, maybe like a tidal river in New York, the writing just flowed, upstream and then downstream, from one to the other, with authorship murky and tangled like so much jib-line on a dock...

Posted by: Ace at 04:27 PM     You know what dock rhymes with?  Sweet, delicious, mmpphhmmhphph. 

17 I thought this had been long settled and Ayers had admitted he wrote both of them.

18 For some reason, this post reminded me of the classic: Chris "Rara Avis" Buckley: Watching Obama, I Was Beating My Dick Like It Owed Me Money

19 I thought this had been long settled and Ayers had admitted he wrote both of them.

Actually, Ayers joked that he wrote the first, and that the second was trash, a political hack job. Given the distinction he makes, I am tempted to believe that he had a hand in the first.

20 I was going to rewrite it for him, until I found out he was half cracka!

And his Daddy didn't marry a sista - she married a white woman. My spirit winced.

21 Didn't think Cashill was into birtherism.  He dealt with in in Deconstructing Obama along with all the other theories swirling around Obama's concealed history and as I recall pretty much dismissed it.  He seems to think he was born here but the origin story is a total fabrication.  Which was borne out when the birth cert was finally released and every day pokes another hole in some other part of the origin story.

What I don't understand is why the takeaway from the official birth cert release wasn't "Ok, that pretty much settles it, he is a Brit."  His only real hope was for the birth cert to show him a bastard and thus inherit his underage mother's nationality but it clearly says Stanley Ann Dunham Obama so underage mother married to British subject equals British by the law of the day.

He was born here though so he could have filed and become a US Citizen at some point after being born British and adopted into Indonesian citizenship but you either have Natural Born Citizen status at birth or you don't, you can't get it it later.  It only matters for President, any Citizenship is equal to any other for every other purpose but that one exception.

22 Regardless, is something like this ever provable?
Wouldn't this fall into the 'anything we can get on Obama category' to anyone who supports him, and then they win?
It's accusing a cheater of cheating when there's no video replay and the ref didn't see.

23 17 If that lil' cumdumpster piglet Snookie can "write" a book, than so can B+.

That said, Ayers has his little bombmaking terrorists hands all over this one.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 12, 2011 04:36 PM (pLTLS)

 

I call bullshit.  There isn't a man alive who'd put their hoohoodilly anywhere near that, that... thing.

24 It's funny, when you think about it, how all these Marxist shitbags *know* each other.

I mean, it's almost like they were working toward a common goal or something.

25 Hummmm, why indeed.

26
The fuck?
Posted by: ErikW at May 12, 2011 04:31 PM

It looks like Gertrude Stein ghost-wrote for both of them.

But seriously, I don't see any reason to not go all-in on authorism. I bet Bill Ayers wrote the whole thing, basing it on interviews and papers from the Milk Chocolate Savior.

27 I don't think Cashill means he wrote it outright, and I doubt that's what would have happened. Obama probably paid him to edit it, organize it, sharpen it up, punch it up.

I'm pretty sure I read that Cashill made exactly this accusation.  That basically, Obama had a really crappy manuscript (but nonetheless had one) after blowing through his advance and that he gave it to Ayers to "punch up".

The more convincing evidence to me is how Dreams compares more to Fugitive and almost not at all to Audacity.

You really have to be naive to think that Obama wrote Audacity.  Most think it was Plouffe. But Obama claims that he wrote it in his spare time in the Senate.  Judging by his work ethic -- even given that he did nothing while in the Senate -- I doubt it very much.

28 My cousin's friend's wife wasn't a sista - my spirit winced.

29

Identity is funny being yourself is funny as you are never yourself to yourself except as you remember yourself and then of course you do not believe yourself you do not really believe yourself why should you, you know so well so very well that it is not yourself.

The fuck?

Posted by: ErikW at May 12, 2011 04:31 PM (mblEr)

GOOD LORD. Did he write this when he was high? Did his editors edit this when they were high?

30 Does it really matter. Like we don't know obama is a born liar?

31 How could anybody doubt that the writer of beautiful poetry like "Apes and Figs" would also be capable of writing a bestselling book?

32
Regardless, is something like this ever provable?
Posted by: Mr. Lips at May 12, 2011 04:40 PM

Word is, if Obama doesn't stay far enough to the left to suit Ayers, Ayers will spill -- in fact has already dropped hints. That wouldn't be proof, but it could be uncomfortably close to it.

33 Next your going to try and say he didn't shoot osama in the face.

34

I call bullshit. There isn't a man alive who'd put their hoohoodilly anywhere near that, that... thing.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 12, 2011 04:40 PM (UciSl)

Barack has had two children by Michelle. EXPLAIN IT! Roseanne Barr has children. Have you been to a Dollar Store lately?

Face it, there are stranger things in Heaven and Earth than exist in your philosophy.

35 Sweet merciful crap, that first quote is from the well-written book? That's what clean and articulate looks like?

My brain can't wrap around that.

36 Writing a book is hard work, I hear. There's no evidence Obama is willing to do hard work.

37 Guilty as sin, free as a bird, baby!

38 I think Zero made most of it up, then Ayers made up the rest. It seems the biggest involvement Zero's sperm donor had with him was to bang the commie whore who bore him until she swelled. Then he got buyers remorse and got the fuck out. Even I can't blame him for that (Zero's sire, that is).

39 From the side bar & Ben:

On The Senate Floor John McCain Says Enhanced Interrogation Didn't Lead to Bin Laden

Ben, keep in mind that McCain and Graham led the way in fighting waterboarding and setting up the pussy tribunals with "rights" at GITMO. Rights that our own military defendants do not have.

This is before he won the 2008 primaries.

40 >> That's what clean and articulate looks like?

You must be reading it with a discernable negro dialect.

41 Do the apes eating crunchy figs swim, with musty pelt, in the moat with gators?

42 It's easy to write, given enough sweet, sweet nose candy!

43

 

 

"Who Wrote Dreams From My Father?"

A jugeared Communist douchebag?

 

44 For lefties, lying is a virture.  It means you're interesting, complex and shrouded in mystery.

45 37 Barack has had two children by Michelle. EXPLAIN IT! Roseanne Barr has children. Have you been to a Dollar Store lately?

Face it, there are stranger things in Heaven and Earth than exist in your philosophy.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 12, 2011 04:44 PM (bxiXv)

 

What the hell is wrong with men?  Don't penises (penii?) have any shame?

46 I am continually amazed at the excuses and evasions about B. Hussein Obama's relationship will Bill Ayres, and other communists. An American President who was raised, educated, and surrounds himself with communists.

I'll say it again... An American President who was raised, educated, and surrounds himself with communists.

America - what the fuck?!

47 Ayers had to have written it.  Michelle's version would have been littered with "screw whitey"

48 >>>His only real hope was for the birth cert to show him a bastard and thus inherit his underage mother's nationality but it clearly says Stanley Ann Dunham Obama so underage mother married to British subject equals British by the law of the day. Ah yes, I guess the 14th amendment wasn't passed until after his birth. Please stop just making bullshit up. Pretty please? Enough with these confident bullshit mutterings based on "legal treatises" found on fucking fringe blogs that "of course no person born of an American parent on american soil can be a natural born citizen." Enough. Enough.

49 It's not like I'd even spent a penny on one of his books. Shit you couldn't give me one

50

Don't forget in his peaen to the foist couple, "Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage" Christopher Andersen reports that Petey was having difficulty writing the book, and for a 2nd time the publisher was ready to drop his illiterate ass, so he packed everything up and took it to Billy Ayers.

...no one has ever disputed that.

51 Drudge website is caput

52 Come on, man. That's some good shit right there.

Posted by: Barack at May 12, 2011 04:32 PM (5Rurq)

I just had some crunchy figs.  I  love it when they are in season.

53 42 I think Zero made most of it up, then Ayers made up the rest. It seems the biggest involvement Zero's sperm donor had with him was to bang the commie whore who bore him until she swelled. Then he got buyers remorse and got the fuck out. Even I can't blame him for that (Zero's sire, that is).     Its was never been made clear to me that MacDaddy Obama actually cohabitated with his Hawaiian prize. I seem to remember he just kind of left, toot sweet.

54 Ace: "Sometimes it's just easier to start from scratch."

Can you blame Ayers here? I mean, he probably had endless run-ons about apes crunching figs in the grotto to work with. Besides the MFM, who wants to read about that?

55 Both those passages are eye crossing, migraine inducing... And Obama's poetry is gag worthy, beatnik wannabe garbage - but I'm informed he's "brilliant.".

56 It has to do with the tides...whatever those are.

57 The Christopher Andersen bio of Obama was very mainstream, but even Andersen claimed that Obama gave his manuscript to Ayers for improvements. If you go to Amazon and search inside the book for Cashill, you will get to the section. Andersen claimed in a radio interview that he had two sources independent sources for the Ayers manuscript doctoring. What, you never heard about his? The media didn't trumpet this this like Kitty Kelly's claims about Nancy Reagan and astrology? I am shocked, shocked, that such a thing could happen.

58 Ace, have you checked Cashill's Oct 9, 2008 piece for chaff? The Oct 14 you cite is merely a brief update. His work 5 days earlier lays the foundation much better.

59 Don't forget about me

- TOTUS

60 Either way, it's a shitty book about a shitty guy.

61 61, That's a foundation, you know, the one with your benifactor soros.

62 Have any morons read his books?  I'd like to, just to see what kind of crap lives between those jugears, but I wouldn't spend so much as a dollar in the bin at a discount store.

63 This news wasn't nearly as shocking as the exposè on Current TV that proved Ron Paul was the real author of Atlas Shrugged.

64

What the hell is wrong with men?  Don't penises (penii?) have any shame?

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 12, 2011 04:48 PM (UciSl)

Now what the hell does a penis need with shame? Whenever I do something I regret, that feeling never comes from my penis, it comes from my wife.....

65 68, No shit! LOL

66

I call bullshit.  There isn't a man alive who'd put their hoohoodilly anywhere near that, that... thing.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 12, 2011 04:40 PM (UciSl)

Have you seen the Jersey shore?  One of my fraternity brothers is form south jersey and he would put his dick in a dead chicken.  He'd have done snookie in a heartbeat (he's married now).

67 Well, the stupid punk couldn't write worth a damn after toking his way through two successive affirmative action college admissions. We know this to be true. So who the hell wrote it if not Ayers? Damn right he wrote it. And the little puke teleprompter reader still won't admit it. But it's more than that. Go back and look at Zero's early history. The first--and I mean very first--mention he ever got in the national media was after this piece of trash came out. He was a virtual unknown until former Weather Underground founder and (unconvicted) felon Bill Ayers decided to help a fellow radical out. This goes right to heart of who the Marxist-in-Chief is and how he got there. Cashill out to be given an hour of primetime television to explain this crap to David Brooks and Colin Powell.

68 wait, is that first incoherent blockquote actually in Dreams of my Father??

if so, all those people here that said he was smart, umm, still willing to double down on that??

69 Who wrote this piece of shit book: I don't care Who toke credit for a "Gutsy" call and the actions of our Navy Seals/ Army Night Stalkers and the CIA: That I care about!

70 But when an editor is confronted with a real piece of shit, he will often find that it's actually easier to rewrite passages almost completely rather than merely fix what's present. Sometimes it's just easier to start from scratch.

From all the student essays I've read, I can vouch that this is definitely true.  When I come across a confusing passage from a student in an essay, I will try to rewrite it in words that express what I think the student means, and that of course entails substituting my voice for the author's.

71

I call bullshit.  There isn't a man alive who'd put their hoohoodilly anywhere near that, that... thing.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 12, 2011 04:40 PM (UciSl)

Wait, what?

72

I wish I could care about all this but I don't. If it could be proven (which would take a confession by Ayers and then Obama could deny it) I suppose it would hurt Obama some or would it. People hire people to help them write all the time, they include thier names on the book but how big of scandle is it that Obama didn't.

It eventually would boil down to one commie said and the other commie said.

It's interesting but not really valuable IMO.

73 Have any morons read his books?  I'd like to, just to see what kind of crap lives between those jugears, but I wouldn't spend so much as a dollar in the bin at a discount store.

You could borrow it from the library but, frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be seen with it.

74

@70

I haven't watched Jersey Shore but I've seen Snookie's gaping maw on magazines.  It's probably safer to put one's dick in a salmonella tainted, rotting dead chicken than Snookie. 

75 Hey, I didn't write it. He plagiarized me!

76 Its was never been made clear to me that MacDaddy Obama actually cohabitated with his Hawaiian prize. I seem to remember he just kind of left, toot sweet.

February 1961: Obama, Sr. and Dunham marry (they had to marry at some point, because there were divorce papers later)
August 1961: Obama, Jr. born in HI.
September 1961: Dunham and Obama, Jr. are in Washington state as she takes classes at UW.  Obama, Sr. (and Dunham's parents) still in HI.
June 1962: Obama, Sr. graduates from UH.
Fall 1962: Obama, Sr. goes to Harvard.
January 1963: Dunham and Obama, Jr. return to HI.
January 1964: Dunham files for divorce.

Obama, Sr. only saw Obama, Jr. once (after he was a month old).  In 1971.  He died in a car accident in 1982.

77 Jane D'oh: "I'd like to, just to see what kind of crap lives between those jugears..."

Technically, you'd be seeing the crap living between a Marxo-Communist's ears.

Not to mention Ayers'.

78

I haven't watched Jersey Shore but I've seen Snookie's gaping maw on magazines.  It's probably safer to put one's dick in a salmonella tainted, rotting dead chicken than Snookie. 

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 12, 2011 04:58 PM (UciSl)

It was a freshly killed chicken..but he did nail some ugly girls.  And, I haven't seen Jersey shore buy I've been there...no doubt that girl is on her back or biting the pillow 3-4 times per week.

79 Regardless, is something like this ever provable?
Posted by: Mr. Lips at May 12, 2011 04:40 PM

Word is, if Obama doesn't stay far enough to the left to suit Ayers, Ayers will spill -- in fact has already dropped his hints pants. That wouldn't be proof, but it could be uncomfortable y close to it.

Posted by: arhooley at May 12, 2011 04:43 PM (7K73r)

FIFY

80 Every piece of that book that I see, knowing it is praised to the High Heavens as the Pinnacle of Art, makes me more and more sure that I'm ten times the writer Obama OR Ayers are.

81 Have they ever run a comparison of Obama's second book to the first one?

82 Wow, you guys are a little rough on the snook. At least she has a fkn job and pays taxes. Further more, if she wasn't on TV and you had a Valu-rite nite, you would wake up with that, even if you didn't go to bed with that, now tell the fucking truth.

83

I gotta run, but if it hasn't been covered, what about that video of Ayers that came out shortly after the Libya episode, where he supposedly admitted to writing this thing? Was that legit? Or just people hearing what they wanted to hear?

I guess maybe the right term would be "ghost co-wrote" or "ghost edited".

84

 He died in a car accident in 1982.

He killed himself druck driving in 1982. Just sayin'.

85 I've had boils lanced that could write a better book than Obama.

86

Identity is funny being yourself is funny as you are never yourself to yourself except as you remember yourself and then of course you do not believe yourself you do not really believe yourself why should you, you know so well so very well that it is not yourself.

Even if I knew nothing else about him, I'd want to punch the balls of the person who wrote that after reading it.  Hard.

87 87:

I've done worse. Usually for ~100 pesos.

88 i'm reading Cashill's book deconstructing obama, 126 pages in he pretty much dismisses the birther thing from what i have read he considers Bill Ayers as the editor/co-writer. there are parts that are obama and may of happened but there are details inserted that just don't hold up to historical fact. like Obama's speech at Selma, AL or how he tweaks his origin story to suit his current audience.

89 86 Have they ever run a comparison of Obama's second book to the first one?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 12, 2011 05:02 PM (f9c2L)

I recall that Cashill did it and his conclusion was what I said in #30.

90 So why do we care?
All the shit this guy has pulled. The berating of "birthers" with the line "you are damaging the cause by focusing on a distraction and making us look like kooks" and we are supposed to give a damn that a sixties radical rewrote his shitty biography?

91

It was a freshly killed chicken..but he did nail some ugly girls.  And, I haven't seen Jersey shore buy I've been there...no doubt that girl is on her back or biting the pillow 3-4 times per week.

Actually she's the least promiscuous of the set.

92 ^{Have any morons read his books?  I'd like to, just to see what kind of crap lives between those jugears, but I wouldn't spend so much as a dollar in the bin at a discount store.}

^{Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2011 04:52 PM (UOM4}

That's what libraries are for. Make sure you use somebody else's card though, so nobody can find record of you checking it out. Or, just lift it, and then return it later.

93 >>>It's interesting but not really valuable IMO. I know. It's not something we take to market. But it's fair game for comment behind the scenes.

94

So he titled his second autobiography "Dreams of my Father" ye the never even met the fuckin guy?

Ok.

95 I wrote it, but then the arrogant bastard used a find and replace to change "Xenu" to "Obama"!

96 93, Well there is one honest man. Funny you should say that. I lost my virginity to a Mexican hooker in the border town across from Del Rio.

97 OT: W100 Highlight Video

"On April 25-27, 2011, fourteen servicemen and women wounded in Iraq or Afghanistan joined President George W. Bush for a 100 kilometer mountain bike ride in Big Bend State Park..."

98 Wow, you guys are a little rough on the snook. At least she has a fkn job and pays taxes. Further more, if she wasn't on TV and you had a Valu-rite nite, you would wake up with that, even if you didn't go to bed with that, now tell the fucking truth.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 12, 2011 05:02 PM (Owbih)

She is like a potato with big hair and too much mascara

99 So, he's not only saying that the terrorist wrote the book, it's fiction.  Am I getting that right?

100 "Identity is funny being yourself is funny as you are never yourself to yourself except as you remember yourself and then of course you do not believe yourself you do not really believe yourself why should you, you know so well so very well that it is not yourself."

Exquisite. All it's missing is something about double-stitching and pleat counts. Obama is a brilliant man, clearly.

101 99

It was a freshly killed chicken..but he did nail some ugly girls.  And, I haven't seen Jersey shore buy I've been there...no doubt that girl is on her back or biting the pillow 3-4 times per week.

Actually she's the least promiscuous of the set.

 

Interesting fact, there is a legal case were a drunk soldier diddled a German's chicken and was sentenced to Levenworth. Occupation duty isn't what it used to be. Shoosh, whatever happened to "listening to de lamentations of their women?"

102 > Ah yes, I guess the 14th amendment wasn't passed until after his birth.

The only reference to natural born citizen in the Constitution as amended is the one in the qualifications for POTUS.  The people who wrote the 14th Amendment can be assumed to have read the Constitution and known of that one special case.  That they didn't mention it has to mean they weren't concerned with changing that bit.

Yes, young Barry could have (re)acquired US Citizenship based on being born here just like any anchor baby after mom dumped him back to granny from Indonisia.  Unless of course he used his Indonesian citizenship to get bonus point on college admission, but that is a different theory for another day.  But at birth mom was underage and dad was unquestionably a British national and that used to matter.  Britain would certainly still consider Obama Jr. to be one of their Subjects were he to seek papers from Her Majesty's Government.

Tracing Obama to Citizenship isn't hard, but unless we are expected to pretend the Constitution explicitly specifying a higher bar for POTUS is 'outdated' and thus means nothing (i.e. living Constitution) we really need to have the legal firefight and settle the matter one way or the other.  Good arguments can be mustered either way so it would of course come down to what Justice Kennedy happens to think.

The whole point behind the NBC clause was that the Founders didn't want Presidents to have divided loyalty.  Of course in Obama's case there isn't much question of his loyalty... America: he is agin' it.  But it does kinda prove the point the Founders had in mind.

103

87 Wow, you guys are a little rough on the snook. At least she has a fkn job and pays taxes. Further more, if she wasn't on TV and you had a Valu-rite nite, you would wake up with that, even if you didn't go to bed with that, now tell the fucking truth.

There is a plus and a minus side to that possibility.

On the minus, I might wake up to find my penis had to be cut off to save my life. On the plus side, if my penis wasn't amputated, the cancre it grew might write a better book than "Dreams Of My Drunk Driving Sperm Donor".

104 106, Still, you didn't say you wouldn't.

105

It was a freshly killed chicken..but he did nail some ugly girls.  And, I haven't seen Jersey shore buy I've been there...no doubt that girl is on her back or biting the pillow 3-4 times per week.

Actually she's the least promiscuous of the set.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:06 PM (mQQMY)

Not by choice

106 Posted by: Ace

Did you get a promotion? Capital A? Do you have a corner office now?

107 Why does it matter?  Because the storied Barack Obama would then be a demonstrable, concrete fraud, and one constructed with the aid of a domestic terrorist whom he has claimed to barely know.

108 104:

Honesty and humility is what God gave me instead of connections and good looks.

109

She is like a potato with big hair and too much mascara

I can't grasp how she's such a phenomana. There's one every 3 feet in Brooklyn. She's tame and tasteful comparatively.

110
I wish I could care about all this but I don't.
.....

It's interesting but not really valuable IMO.
Posted by: robtr at May 12, 2011 04:58 PM

I disagree. It will be part of history some day, and those historians and readers will be incredulous that America actually made this fraud and enemy our leader.

111 So he titled his second autobiography "Dreams of my Father" ye the never even met the fuckin guy?

You know those childhood fantasies where your parents are princes from a far-off land and they would swoop in and take you away from your boring mediocre life?

Well, for Barack Obama, that was close enough to the truth that he could fantasize about it.

His father was a fantasy figure to him.  An instant hero in which he could invest all of his fantasies -- a man who would never disappoint him.

Did his father abandon him?  Well, sure, but look at little Barack's wacky mom and dimbulb grandfather.  Of course he would abandon that situation.  But little Barack would make his daddy proud.

112 Let me see, Sparky is raised and protected all his life by his Mother and especially his Grandmother who are both white and he decides to write about his father that abandoned him to tell his sad story. Any chance Sparky isn't a real fan of the ladies?

113 117:

The weight of Obama's lies are what is shriveling him up and driving him crazier.

114 37 Barack has had two children by Michelle.
_________

Have you seen their long form birth certificates?

115

Actually she's the least promiscuous of the set.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:06 PM (mQQMY)

Not by choice

Posted by: Jackhole at May 12, 2011 05:09 PM (+qHxi)

True. But it's hard when you're 4'5".

116 84 Every piece of that book that I see, knowing it is praised to the High Heavens as the Pinnacle of Art, makes me more and more sure that I'm ten times the writer Obama OR Ayers are.

Every time the media insists that Michelle Obama has great arms and is a breathtaking beauty... makes me more and more sure that the stripper I nailed really was ten times as hot as Salma Hayek.

117 I know this, because while on Law Review Endor Nights, The Preeminent Magazine of Erotic Ewok Fan-Fiction FIFY

118 iknowtheleft: "It's really kind of amazing ... I'd just laugh at any population that acted like we have."

Every day I wake up, it feels like Bizarro World. The sad truth is we can't just blame public education. I guess I'd be inclined to blame TV for our impending Idiocracy.

119 I think this conspiracy theory has far less contradictions of evidence than the birth certificate conspiracy prior to it being released. That's why it aggravates me that the same people who mocked the 'birthers' now present this theory as some kind of intellectual exercise.

120 125

Actually she's the least promiscuous of the set.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:06 PM (mQQMY)

Not by choice

Posted by: Jackhole at May 12, 2011 05:09 PM (+qHxi)

True. But it's hard when you're 4'5".

 

Knock out a few teeth and give her a crewcut and she is a 10.

121 119, All that is VIACOM bullshit selling dreck to our kids at it's most successful. It's all about the marketing. Lohan has more talent in her little finger than all of them combined, and we know how fucked up she is.

122

124 37 Barack has had two children by Michelle.

The older one has moochelle's glare down pat.

123
The weight of Obama's lies are what is shriveling him up and driving him crazier.

Posted by: sifty at May 12, 2011 05:13 PM (2dbd9)

Why do you think he did the audio version of his books personally?  That way he would know what was in them so he could continue the lie as long as possible.  I bet he's read his own books 1,000 times just to memorize as much as possible to prevent being caught as the fraud he is.

 

124 I'm with buzzion. To hell with "just a guy in the neighborhood". I think Cashill is absolutely correct. Like Obama would just happen to come up with nautical metaphors even though Ayers was in the Merchant marines? Ayers is a sick, twisted man but he's a better writer than Obama could ever be. I think copies were then bought up by Soros to push Obama. The whole crew is despicable Another day; Just another lie from Obama. I Gotta remember: Pray for your enemies. Pray for your enemies. I do it through clenched teeth.

125 132, God will have smiled upon them if they don't get her haunches.

126 Too bad Cashill's gone birther (although never in his AT columns do I ever see him assert Obama was born overseas), but the authorer angle has been intriguing.

127 Well, I would say the best evidence that Obama's books were ghost written in that they are out in the public eye.  Everything else of Obama's is sealed up tighter than the skin on Joan Rivers' face.

128 Why do you think he did the audio version of his books personally?  That way he would know what was in them so he could continue the lie as long as possible.   

Posted by: © Sponge at May 12, 2011 05:16 PM (UK9cE)

 

He still wouldn't know.  Given that he greeted himself once when there was a TOTUS glitch, and a couple other examples whose details I don't recall, it's pretty clear that he just speaks the words in front of him without ever actually processing their meaning.

129 BTW, we all know that the "just a guy in my neighborhood" was demonstrably false, Ayers hired him for the Annenberg Challenge.

130 133:

Pathological liars can never truly relax. Every waking second they have to keep their entire life myth alive in their minds, lest someone accidentally find the flaws.

Where a normal person can say, "I don't remember what we did twelve years ago on vacation", a liar has to know. He never knows how much someone else may remember about it.

Creepy and sad.

131 132 124 37  The older one has moochelle's glare down pat.

I feel sorry for Sasha and Malia. Imagine having parents who make put-downs about you on the world stage and who use you as props when necessary. They are rich and spoiled little girls but are likely unhappy. What a family.

132 All I know is that it took me about 30 minutes of reading the thing to convince me that anyone associated with it should never be President.

I think at least 70% of the American electorate would, if they ever bothered to open a book, agree with that sentiment upon reading what's in there.

But we know that of the 53% probably one-third would agree with every word of it, and the other two-thirds never open anything more verbose than their credit-card statements.

So we've got Obama, and I guess as a whole we deserve the fool.

133 143:

Our side gets shirts.

134 Geez, who writes sentences like that?

135 One of the things that completely disgusts me about people who supported Obama, is how easily they wrote off his relationship with Ayers. It's as if according to these people, the murder of a cop is no big deal. This isn't the same as Clinton smoking a joint, but not inhaling. Writing a blurb for the cover of a book written by a police murderer, is a huge deal. It isn't just Obama who has no morals or scruples, neither do the 52% who voted for him. There is nothing Obama could do that would allow me to have any respect for him. There are just some lines you don't cross, and he has crossed that line when he associated himself with domestic terrorists.

136 The books are bullshit. Part of a larger narritive to get the asswipe elected. We know it, he knows it, he knows we know it and he knows there is not a fucking thing we can do about it. After that sentence maybe I should write a book.

137 Our side gets shirts.

...have you seen the rotted husks on the other side...?

138 Polliwog: "...it's pretty clear that he just speaks the words in front of him without ever actually processing their meaning."

I'm kinda looking forward to the day when Barack Burgundy says, "Go fuck yourself, San Diego America."

139 In a sane world, being a huge fan of a book dedicated to Lucifer would have been a bit of a no-no as well.

140

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 12, 2011 05:25 PM (DAEhL)

It's not like it would get any press if he did.

141

"It's really kind of amazing ... I'd just laugh at any population that acted like we have."

It is a complete embarrassment.

This guy is a fraud, the entire education system is a self-perpetuating fraud based on individual greed of do-gooders, the government is comprised of nothing, completely nothing, yet we are here and we all know that we are just waiting for the influx of rules and regulations for our lives.

I remember being given 1984 to read in HS, but I'm pretty sure old Barry never even heard of George Orwell.

Really, it is completely fucked up that no one in the media even asks this guy who he is yet every single fucking Republican has to get a full screening on knowledge of history and current events, marriage, sexuality, mind-thoughts, philosophy and is judged as harshly as a person can be judged.

142 OT: I want to get outraged by the woman with the worlds largest breasts

143 Eye Bleach for Morons (and O/T)

You folks need to check out skysurvey.org

The Night Sky In 37,440 Exposures

Headline relevance is from a link I saw at FR pointing to myfoxdc.com

144 Sasha and Malia, they may fart through silk instead of cotton but I don't know about the spoiled thing. My greatest hope is that they rebel in college and become paulnuts.

145 My conspiracy theory about Obama's past is very logical and merits discussion and investigation while your conspiracy theory about Obama's past makes you a nut.  Why?  Fuck you, that's why.

146

Posted by: buzzion at May 12, 2011 05:30 PM (oVQFe)

It's almost as if he's trying to maintain plausible deniability about anything he says. Whose going to be able to argue with him any time he chooses to use the excuse that he doesn't remember saying someting because he just read TOTUS?

147 How does this theory help us get Jon Hunstman get elected?

148 OT: I want to get outraged by the woman with the worlds largest breasts

Posted by: Cherry π at May 12, 2011 05:31 PM (+sBB4)

My thoughts on that.....

But that's just me.....

149 The power of get

150 If someone on this planet has a birthmark hidden by their hair that looks like this "666" I'm thinkin it's Huntsman.

151 Don't forget the power of put.

152 Sasha and Malia, they may fart through silk instead of cotton but I don't know about the spoiled thing. My greatest hope is that they rebel in college and become paulnuts.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 12, 2011 05:31 PM (Owbih)

I'll bet you a grand they go to a school OUTSIDE the evil United States.

Even the University of Chicago is in this awful country.

153 I thought it was called "Dreams From Bill Ayers' Father."

154 The fact that the book was entitled Dreams From My Father adds another gold-leaf coating of pretentious douchetasticness to the notion of a no-name loser Harvard Law grad writing an autobiography in his early 30s after accomplishing precisely nil.

Thanks for giving the charlatan the ATM code, 52%!

155

 One of the things that completely disgusts me about people who supported Obama, is how easily they wrote off his relationship with Ayers.

Blago says there's a lot more to the Rezko story than the media is letting on.

156 Ayers is the consummate squeakhole wuss. 

Word.  Those chicks on the FBI's 10 most wanted were way tougher that him.

157 167, Your on, It's Ivy league like Daddy and Mommy.

158 Has Cashill tried comparing trigram frequencies in works by Obama, Ayers, and random other authors? That's supposed to be a pretty good method of determining authorship. The drawback is that, like the readability scores, it doesn't actually "prove" anything -- it can only generate circumstantial evidence.

159 buzzion
Ok. Knock yourself out. Get all redfaced and breathless with outrage.

Look- I hate Ayers and wish he and his wife some serious jail time but I'm trying to figure out why this is an OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE! when we have been told to pipe down about other conspiracy theories.

160 What 158 said.

161 Moderates have always raced to oust candidates that have Commies write books for them.  AP did a poll for us.

162

I find it real fucking funny that Ace believes Obama is lying about writing his memoirs, but oh no, he's telling us the truth about everything else regarding his history.

163

I wonder if Barry wrote this for that douuuuche Common. Anyone know what the fuck he's talking about?

"One KingÂ’s dream He was able to Barack us"

164 Look- I hate Ayers and wish he and his wife some serious jail time but I'm trying to figure out why this is an OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE! when we have been told to pipe down about other conspiracy theories.

Posted by: kdny at May 12, 2011 05:40 PM (ECt2r)

--Remember, given his pathetic résumé of actual elected office in 2008, Teh One's authorship of two books was supposed to be strong evidence of his intellect and potential.  Lord knows it helped seduce the likes of Chris Buckley.  Anything to kick at the supports under the cheap structure that is Obama's Awesomeness is fine with me.

165 You know, I think the rent is to Damn high guy is smarter than Obama. I really do.

166 One simple proof is all you need to see if JEF wrote the books or not.. Do either one of them talk about 'Slurpees'? No? There you go. ________ A man who can't even make a couple of prepared comments without TOTUS to grade school kids and yet he is supposed to have authored two books.. Sheesh.

167 More importantly of "who" wrote it, Obama owes the CHICAGO MACHINE and the MEDIA who peddled him for Prez.  If  Obama remained un-known he wouldn't have made his millions off of book sales. 

Obama is owned, bought and paid for. 

168 120
I disagree. It will be part of history some day, and those historians and readers will be incredulous that America actually made this fraud and enemy our leader.

Posted by: arhooley at May 12, 2011 05:12 PM (7K73r)

Nope. Don't care.

169 Look- I hate Ayers and wish he and his wife some serious jail time but I'm trying to figure out why this is an OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE! when we have been told to pipe down about other conspiracy theories.

Posted by: kdny at May 12, 2011 05:40 PM (ECt2r)

Basically, because this isn't really a conspiracy theory as much as it is more evidence this guy isn't who he says he is and is a habitual liar.

 

170 It looks like Gertrude Stein ghost-wrote for both of them.

That first quote is Gertrude Stein. Always check your sources twice, morons.

I've read Obama's shitty book that Ayers didn't write. He's an Ayers acolyte, and he lifted some shit from him—poorly. That's all.

Authorism is way loonier than even full-on Birtherism. Don't be gettin' played.

171 ace is just askin questions

172 172 167, Your on, It's Ivy league like Daddy and Mommy. Cambridge or Oxford.. Something in the UK..

173

I find it real fucking funny that Ace believes Obama is lying about writing his memoirs, but oh no, he's telling us the truth about everything else regarding his history.

Posted by: Rip at May 12, 2011 05:44 PM (onO2O)

When did Ace say that? 

Stop being a douche just for the sake of being a douche.

174 185, So you don't think ayres is shitty enough to rip off Stein? Really?

175

O/T: Bin Laden told his peeps that Biden wasn't worth bumping off. Article at The Telegraph website.

Sorry for no linky but evidently fucking IE 7 won't even let me do tinyurl anymore.

176

@71: "He was a virtual unknown until former Weather Underground founder and (unconvicted) admitted felon Bill Ayers decided to help a fellow radical out."

FTFY

177 So, just sayin, if the VP is unable to do it's duties, who picks a new one?

178

57 Its was never been made clear to me that MacDaddy Obama actually cohabitated with his Hawaiian prize. I seem to remember he just kind of left, toot sweet.

Bill Whittle has a relatively new video on that on Pajamas media. The timeline is:

02FEB1961: married (although not legally, since Sr. was already married)

04AUG1961: Jr. born (Hmmm. I count 6 months...)

19AUG1961: Mom registered for classes in WA, leaving her husb & baby.

1962: Sr left HI for Harvard.

JAN1964: Mom filed for divorce.

Whittle says it appears that they appear to have lived as a family for, maybe, 2 weeks. There are no known family photos. There's also little or nothing on their marriage - no photos, or mention of where it was. Sr's parents wrote that they disapproved of it - for racist reasons.

So it was even more of a dysfunctional train wreck than you remembered. But I suppose the parents "cohabited" for some months before Jr. was born.

179

"Who Wrote Dreams From My Father?"

A jugeared Communist douchebag?

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz



Take out the jugeared and its a tautology.

180 Now obviously you are incapable of inserting your emotions into everything and are incapable of discussing things in that manner, but we're not all like you.

1- Yes. I am the one on the blog who is always flipping out.

2- Not a birther. I did however think that Obama should have had to prove eligibility.

3- This is a conspiracy theory.

181 193 So, just sayin, if the VP is unable to do it's duties, who picks a new one?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 12, 2011 05:53 PM (Owbih)

It's the first runner up, or the one who answered the "world peace" question with the most poise in an evening gown.

182 Thanks, I knew I could count on use guys.

183 Scale of Obama Conspiracy Theory Acceptability, Revised 5/12/11:

Birth certificate doubt:  Looney
College transcript doubt:  Just Asking Questions
Memoir authorship doubt:  There's Definitely Something Going On Here

_{Acceptability scale subject to change without notice or explanation}

184

So it was even more of a dysfunctional train wreck than you remembered. But I suppose the parents "cohabited" for some months before Jr. was born.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 12, 2011 05:54 PM (F56VB)

I doubt it, actually.  I think she went to him in January and said, "Guess what?"

185

@153: "President Rip-and-Read"

I'll thank you to leave me out of this.  I've suffered enough.  I'm pretty much a pantywaist. I don't say this to be self-deprecating, I just, you know, don't have much of an opinion of myself. I'd much rather be like you guys, you know, bar fighters and big, swinging dicks, takin' care of shit. You know, sadly this is it, you know, it's disgusting - "Thanks, God! Dog-pile of piss-poor physique on top of a small cock and hereditary alcoholism, 'preciate it!" I'm babbling, I do that drunk, please forgive.

186 There is no doubt Ayers did the heavy lifting on that book. Take a look at the passages, note the similarity to Ayers prior work and the dissimilarity to anything Obama has done. Nobody seems to mind that a evil terrorist wrote the presidents memoirs.

187 Ace,

There's actually a book that's very sympathetic to the Obozos that says the same thing about Ayers writing Dreams. It's called Barack and Michelle: An American Love Story or something like that, I don't remember the exact title (and I don't give enough of a shit to spend an hour blindly Googling for it).

188 Also, regarding those quotes from the books:

Identity is funny being yourself is funny as you are never yourself to yourself except as you remember yourself and then of course you do not believe yourself you do not really believe yourself why should you, you know so well so very well that it is not yourself.

Now it could not be yourself because you cannot remember right and if you do remember right it does not sound right and of course it does not sound right because it is not right. You are of course never yourself.

What a bunch of stupid puerile bullshit, regardless of who wrote which passage. If Sarah Palin had written either one of them it would have be a late-night/SNL punchline for the rest of her life.

189 >>>200 A lot of continued grousing that you were wrong, as if that's my fault. Get over it. Adult men just should be able move on from error instead of lashing out about it. I don't know if this is all partisans or just conservatives, but there's a real demand here made by some that others apologize to them for the sin of being right.

190

80  [AmishDude]

Sorry, I hadn't gotten that far yet. Mostly the same info, but you do note that they must have been married, since she filed for divorce. In any state I know of, marriage records are public, so I'm surprised that nobody seems to have looked into that. Maybe the marriage record just isn't very specific as to the place of marriage.

Whittle seems to be saying, however, that Mom left Jr. back in HI when she went to school. But after that, he's unclear. I've heard the story that Sr only saw Jr once, but I thought that meant "once after he left". So I'm still unclear on where Jr was during all this. It would seem problematic to have a baby in tow at college - I would think a collectivist scum like Mom would pawn the kid off on her parents.

201 I doubt it, actually.  I think she went to him in January and said, "Guess what?"

I just meant that they cohabited between their marriage and her heading off to college - the 6 months.

191 No seriously I guess we will have to at some point apologize to the birthers for the sin of being right because they just seem too fucking immature to gracefully concede. They want an apology. An apology for being right. Childish.

192 are you right here, Ace? Or are you buying into your own conspiracy? I think like you did about the birther thing, that it doesn't matter even if it is true.

193 waaah, our conspiracy theory was dumb and everyone said so and now it's proven to be that and so we're going to whine about it for fucking ever and ever and ever.

194 Two things make me suspect both books were mostly the work of others. First,  after the critical success of Dreams an ambitious politician in the making would normally follow up with other writing such as op-ed pieces for major papers or journal articles to burnish his policy chops.  All Barry wrote as a state senator was the occasional trite What's New In Springfield article for a neighborhood paper in Chicago. These have more in common stylistically with the puerile op ed under his name in the Columbia student newspaper than Dreams.

Second, there is a short passage in Karl Rove's book.  The Audicity of Hype had just come out.  Rove, a voracious reader, found his name mentioned in a snide and dismissive passage.  Rove confronts the junior Senator about it on a visit to the White House and Barry denies the comment Rove quote to him is even in his book!   So Rove pulls out his copy of AoH, shoves it in Barry's face and  Barry just walks away.   
 
People expect politicians to use ghost writers but Dreams came out before Barry entered politics and was sold as evidence that he is a genuine intellectual.   It would be such fun to stick it to all the pretentious credentialed but not well educated pseudo intellectuals I know who swooned about their happiness in being able to vote for a President who could write a book like Dreams.

195 >>>are you right here, Ace? Or are you buying into your own conspiracy It's not my theory. I buy into it because it's pretty plausible. As buzzion said, as a general matter all political books are ghostwritten -- this is supposedly the one that wasn't. Am I right? I don't know. We'll never know. I think the evidence suggests the theory is right. But there is no smoking gun and probably won't be. Well, that engilsh biographer did say Ayers helped write the book.

196 nerdygirl@146: It's as if according to these people, the murder of a cop is no big deal. I still run a tabletop RPG. In 2007, the medieval-fantasy characters were heading towards a time warp to 1969 San Francisco to fight a conspiracy of giant bugs. As the minions of the bugs, I pulled out the most despicable orgs I could find. Discovered that the Weather Underground was probably there, so I used them, and named Dohrn and Ayers specifically. It never even occurred to me that someone with close ties to those two would end up being the presidential front-runner by the time we hit that part of the game. Life isnÂ’t just stranger than fiction, itÂ’s stupider.

197 >>. It's called Barack and Michelle: An American Love Story or something like that, I don't remember the exact title (and I don't give enough of a shit to spend an hour blindly Googling for it). Right, this is the english biographer right? Yeah, that's good, but he doesn't name sources so no one can say he didn't make it up. Further, who knows, maybe he just stuck it in there because he knows there was chatter about it on the internet. I kinda buy that but I can see why someone would say that's not proof.

198 I know this, because while on Law Review, it was always drummed in that we had to fight the urge to "lose the author's voice," that is, simply rewrite him.

You can also learn this by helping your kid with his English term paper.

199

Realistically, Obama hadn't really written much of anything, had he? And so then all of a sudden he writes this book - which is said to be well-written - all by his lonesome? Such is the stuff of a cult of personality, not reality.

And therein lies the importance, as has been noted by a few, above. Obama campaigned soley on his cult of personality. Anything that chips away at that is a good thing. It's less important this time around, but it's still there. What's he going to run on? His record?? "Saving the economy" from the Evil George Bush?

There's also the matter of him having lied to us, and his really having a much closer relationship to a known terrorist than he admits.

But I see two main problems. First, it's long overdue. I recognize that nobody would dare vett The One, lest they be called "racist", but it's still just "old". Even the Ayers thing is "old". The people have spoken - they don't care, and they don't want to hear it. We're not talking about some weasly freshman Senator any more; now we're talking about their President.

Second, it's unprovable. That's the real problem. Dare I say we're in a Dan Rather situation (minus the fraud and inaccuracy, of course). We pretty much know it's true, but don't have the proof.

So what's a patriot to do?

200 Yep its completely conspiratorial to think that Obama did something that non-authors do for their books, and just happened to ask his good buddy/mentor to be the one to do it.


When you throw in the sixties bomb thrower it is.

201

Identity is funny being yourself is funny as you are never yourself to yourself except as you remember yourself and then of course you do not believe yourself you do not really believe yourself why should you, you know so well so very well that it is not yourself."

I think you ripped me off here. My writing about the self relating itself to its own self predates your drivel. I'm sick, unto death, of this bullshit, so fuck you.

 

202 217 - So what's a patriot to do?

Hammer away on Obama's unqualifications for the job and how badly the legacy media covered it up.  I suspect there are a non-trivial number of people who bought into the One's advertised superior skills and are now befuddled at his daily screwups.   They won't want to admit THEY were in error by not checking into a candidate before letting the Tube convince them the guy was a genius, but if they were LIED to that is different.  Support can then transform into outrage with no guilt on them.

Our job when we nudge some ill-informed 'Independent' to see Obama as an empty suit is to then STFU and not rub it in, let em stay ignorant as long as they are pissed at their false messiah.  Let em blame 'the media' instead of their own unwillingness to ask questions, let em stay in denial.

Obama only won by a few points.  If this tactic can shave off a point from the squishy middle it helps a lot.  Having a candidate on our team with positions an 'independent' can easilly distinguish from Obama outta be good for another point or two.

203 A simpler theory is that he did what many mediocre college students would do: He copied. He reused metaphors, though changed the wording enough so that it wouldn't be plagiarism. He had no style of his own, so he copied Ayers'. He assumed that no one would scrutinize his book in comparison to Ayers' book. This sounds roughly as plausible as having Ayers do the writing. Would Ayers have been so careless as to copy so many metaphors?

204 OK this is the conspiracy I can get on board, Cashill does a great job getting to the root of it, Bammy didn't write either of these books. Big deal? NO. I have been of the opinion the Cashill is poking holes in the "narative". The precedent dude just isn't that smart, a paper tiger, nothing to fear here. Oh and the rara avis post still makes me laugh my ass off; funny shit ace you have talent.

205 I don't know what's harder to believe: that Obama wrote Dreams or that Ace made Law Review.

206 The rhyme of the ancient mariner

207 This is not a conspiracy theory.

It is not an issue of such import that the Obamarrhoids can make any hay out of it.  It is not, unlike the birther issue, some deus ex machina the most desperate Obama opponents can hope for to boot him prematurely from the White House.  It does not implicate anyone with high crimes against the state, as the Truther issue does.

Therefore, there is little to no downside to zinging Obots on this issue.  Granted, it is not something worth a reporter ever asking the President about (any more than the Birther issue was, which was not at all), but any competing narrative that can be stoked that can erode the Obamic Myth chanted by the MBM means a big potential upside.  His continued ineptitude in handling presidential affairs will reinforce the counter-narrative.

Jolly good sport, this is, and those of you not relishing it are just sticks in the mud.

208

220 ... I suspect there are a non-trivial number of people who bought into the One's advertised superior skills and are now befuddled at his daily screwups.   They won't want to admit THEY were in error by not checking into a candidate before letting the Tube convince them the guy was a genius, but if they were LIED to that is different.  Support can then transform into outrage with no guilt on them.

...

Obama only won by a few points.  If this tactic can shave off a point from the squishy middle it helps a lot.  Having a candidate on our team with positions an 'independent' can easilly distinguish from Obama outta be good for another point or two.

I like it.

You know, there is a lot out there that has got to leave independents saying WTF? To start with, there were some seriously incompetent lapses in leadership that were kind of glaring, if you had your eyes open.

First, there was the BP spill thing. He gave that silly sob story about talking to his daughter (shades of "Checkers", I suppose), but then you find out he never even picked up the phone to talk to BP for a month and a half. That's a huge WTF, without even recognizing that all he ever really did was twist the arm of a company to pay money that it had already promised, despite having no legal obligation to do so.

Second was the Libya thing. He orders a major attack on a foreign country with even consulting with Congress (which he lied about later) and then heads off to Rio (partly for vacation)!?! Doesn't even give an address to the country for a week and a half? Triple-WTF!?!

Beyond that, you've got things like spending almost a trillion dollars to lower unemployment, which only succeeded in raising it instead.

And of course, ObamaCare.

Yeah, it could be that independents are looking for an explanation for "How could I have been so wrong?" and if we can show "You were lied to" that should go a long, long way.

I take it back. I love it.

209 Come to think of it, if they're looking for the answer to "How could I be so wrong?", they may not even be looking for irrefutable proof - just a reasonable story!

210

Yeah, it could be that independents are looking for an explanation for "How could I have been so wrong?" and if we can show "You were lied to" that should go a long, long way.

I take it back. I love it.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 12, 2011 08:44 PM (F56VB)

--Amen, bro!

211 "It's not my theory. I buy into it because it's pretty plausible. As buzzion said, as a general matter all political books are ghostwritten --this is supposedly the one that wasn't." Well, as a PRACTICAL matter, Ace, U.S. Presidents don't seal their birth records -- until this one did, for two and a half years. But whatever. Just give us a heads-up when you think you might be about to do a total 180 on this Serious And Legitimate Conspiracy Theory the way you did with Birtherism, mmkay?

212 There is no evidence that anyone other than BO wrote his books.

That being said, I have yet to have heard of any metaphors that one raised in Hawaii would have been familiar with - surely a multi-culti metero like Obama would have thrown in something as a teaching moment - like the one about a mahu, a papolo, a haole, and a moke walk into a bar...

213 If there were an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters and one of them wrote "Dreams From My Father", would that be racist?

214

Bill Whittle has a relatively new video on that on Pajamas media. The timeline is:

02FEB1961: married (although not legally, since Sr. was already married)

04AUG1961: Jr. born (Hmmm. I count 6 months...)

19AUG1961: Mom registered for classes in WA, leaving her husb & baby.

1962: Sr left HI for Harvard.

JAN1964: Mom filed for divorce.

It's worse than that. Back out nine months from "Barry's" birth, to 12/4/60. That's about a week after Stan's 18th birthday.

Of course, maybe that's the first time MacDaddy hit it. Sure. Clockwatcher.

That, or he wasn't only a bigamist, but a statutory rapist into the bargain.

 

215 There are no conspiracy theories on Obama that could ever affect his Base - they have heard all this shiite and more before the election and accept it.

Remember that New Yorker (2008 JUL 21) cover with the Obama's dressed up like a militant and muslim? THAT caricature is what his base already knew, weren't bothered by, and thought it good fun to mock conservatives with.

Barry's book that nobody ever read might have been ghost written by an American 60's "terrorist"?

Meh. We all knew since before the election these two had long association via their wives.

216

Of course, maybe that's the first time MacDaddy hit it. Sure. Clockwatcher.

That, or he wasn't only a bigamist, but a statutory rapist into the bargain.

 

Posted by: Jay Guevara

And we already know about his outstanding lineage.

04AUG1961: Jr. born (Hmmm. I count 6 months...)

19AUG1961: Mom registered for classes in WA, leaving her husb & baby.

Barely a week out the hospital and off on a jet airplane... maybe she made reservations knowing it was that close...

217
I don't think that questioning the authorship of Dreams is anything like birtherism. The facts of the situation are pretty clear.

Obama had signed a big contract for a book. He'd failed to deliver a manuscript on the first go-round, but was given a second shot, and a big advance.

At the time, he didn't have much money, and probably couldn't afford to refund the advance, but he floundering, given that he's no writer. (As the Anchoress points out, writers write, and Obama doesn't.)

However, one of his friends is a well-known author with a long list of titles that have sold well. So, he did what any of us would have done, had we found ourselves in that situation: he asked his buddy for help. Maybe money changed hands, maybe not; but the buddy did help, and he probably left his mark on the book's organization and narrative voice.

If Obama were just an ordinary guy, I'd have no trouble overlooking this: a guy was in a bind, and got a boost from a friend. The book is what matters, not who wrote it. The problem is that, based in part on Dreams, Obama has been sold to the people as a genius with peer or parallel in our nation's history: Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, and Mark Twain all rolled into one. The facts of how Dreams was written would help to prick that particular balloon. Or as the priest said in The Man Who Would Be King when Sean Connery's cheek started bleeding: "Not a god, but a man!"

218 "Cashill lost credibility in my book when he moved from authorism to birtherism."

The old CYA. Such is an act of moral cowardice and always has been.

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Biographer Christopher Anderson confirms Cashill's theory in his book Barack and Michelle: Portrait of an American Marriage.

He writes that Barack had already spent the advance but couldn't get the book together, and at Michelle's urging, took whatever material he had and submitted it to Ayers- who then wrote the book. Anderson had access to many Hyde Park people acquainted with the Obamas, and basically asserted that this arrangement is common knowledge.

Cashill has several pieces about this in his archives.

220 American Thinker had a lot of articles on how actually wrote Obama's books.  Very interesting reading.

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